Conception vitamins ?

[love being a mummy]

I don't need help conceiving, I am very fertile but I was wondering if I took pre-conception vitamins would this make me extra fertile? I am worried about having twins. My mother is a twin and so is her father. Would the vitamins increase the chances ?
A friend of mine took conceive well gold and got a boy after having 7 girls.
Not sure if it was a coincidence or not but I was thinking about taking them.

[rainbowflower]

hereditary twins comes down the female line and is for non-identical twins... is this what your mum is? That's caused by multiple ovulation each cycle and I don't know if multivits would affect this.

conception multivitamins in general tend to sway blue very strongly. Partly because of the nutrients, partly because they boost fertility by containing certain supps that the blue swayers also take.

I was taking Pregnacare Conception when I conceived my DS, and haven't met anyone else who took it yet that didn't have a boy.

[love being a mummy]

hereditary twins comes down the female line and is for non-identical twins... is this what your mum is? That's caused by multiple ovulation each cycle and I don't know if multivits would affect this.

conception multivitamins in general tend to sway blue very strongly. Partly because of the nutrients, partly because they boost fertility by containing certain supps that the blue swayers also take.

I was taking Pregnacare Conception when I conceived my DS, and haven't met anyone else who took it yet that didn't have a boy.

Yeah I was worried the vitamins might make me ovulate 2 eggs instead of 1.
My mother was an identical twin her father was non-identical.
So that means the twins genes got passed on down through my grandfathers sisters family?

Should I also take the other boy swaying vitamins / supps, or just stick to the conceive well gold?
I don't know if you over dose on vitamins ?

[rainbowflower]

to me, that implies that your mother was a twin-fluke (because that type of twins is not hereditary), and I don't think you would be at risk of having twins from that... but even if you were prone to double-ovulation, there's still a 75% chance (on average) that each egg won't implant so it could just up your chance of pregnancy overall and still only be a small chance of actually conceiving twins.
If it did boost your egg quality/fertility, I don't think it would increase your chance of twins massively...

[purplepoet20]

I took A, E, and Folic Acid because they help fertility and baby health. I stopped taking A and E with AF because they can cause birth defects during pregnancy if in high doses. I am taking high doses of Folic Acid because I wouldn't mind twins but if you took less then 800 then you should be ok for one healthy baby, but 1600-5000 would increase twinning.

Red Raspberry, Iron, and B's are good before and during pregnancy because they help the mom during and after labor. They do not harm the baby.

[rainbowflower]

pp20 - does folic acid up the chances of twins then? I didn't know that...

[love being a mummy]

Thanks for the replies :)

[Bumblebee]

Hiya I took pregnacare for before both of my pregnancies and have two daughters but I will be taking it again this time anyway despite having two girls (am swaying for a boy :) )

[love being a mummy]

Blackmores Conceive Well™ Gold prepares the body for conception. Some of the key nutrients include:

Antioxidants - are important for women attempting conception. Chances of conception increase in women with higher levels of antioxidants in the fluid surrounding their reproductive organs.
CoQ10 - Levels of CoQ10 decrease with age. Adequate levels of CoQ10 in the expectant mother are associated with healthy early stages of pregnancy.
Iodine - is important for the normal functioning of the thyroid gland as it is an essential nutrient required for the synthesis of thyroid hormones. Thyroid hormones affect almost every cell in the body and regulate oxygen use, metabolic rate and cellular metabolism. Iodine plays an important role in normal brain development and eyesight.
Tuna oil - is a source of omega-3 long chain fatty acids. DHA is particularly important for the normal function of the brain, and for development of normal eyesight.
Folic acid - plays a role in DNA and RNA synthesis, and is therefore critical in cellular division. In order to divide properly, cells need adequate folate. The development and growth of a foetus involves constant cell division, which can lead to an increase in the mother's demand for folate.
Vitamin C - is needed for hormone production and may help to stimulate normal ovulation. The developing egg needs adequate vitamin C to mature. The ovary contains one of the largest ascorbic acid stores in the body.
Vitamin D3 - supports calcium absorption and is essential for building and maintaining healthy bones. Low vitamin D levels are common in women during pregnancy.
Iron - a component of haemoglobin, an essential component of red blood cells. Haemoglobin transports oxygen in the body. Having optimal haemoglobin levels helps the cells of the body receive sufficient oxygen. Early foetal brain development requires adequate iron. As many as one quarter of Australian women have below recommended intakes of iron prior to conception.
Zinc - essential to good health as it is involved in many enzyme reactions in every cell of the body. Adequate levels of zinc support normal conception and are essential for a healthy baby's normal growth and development.
B group vitamins - play an essential role in the production of energy and support normal conception


Would it be ok to takes these + L-arg + EPO for a boy sway ?

[rainbowflower]

Hiya I took pregnacare for before both of my pregnancies and have two daughters but I will be taking it again this time anyway despite having two girls (am swaying for a boy :) )

Did you take "Pregnacare" or "Pregnacare Conception"?

[Bumblebee]

Did you take "Pregnacare" or "Pregnacare Conception"?

Hi there I took Pregnacare Plus with Omega 3. Hope this helps :)

[rainbowflower]

Hi there I took Pregnacare Plus with Omega 3. Hope this helps :)

That one is slightly different, it doesn't have some of the specific Conception ingredients in it (such as L'arginine)

[atomic sagebrush]

Some people used to think that high doses of folic acid that you would find in vitamins made you conceive twins, but when more research was done, it turned out that it was just that the high doses of folic acid helped both babies to survive.

It is not believed that vitamins cause twinning.

[love being a mummy]

Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

No one knows why identical twins happen. There may be a genetic factor to it but then IVF makes identical twins happen a lot more frequently, so it may be that some sort of injury or mistake happens during cell division that causes the egg to split and it may have nothing to do with genes whatsoever. Fraternal twins def. have a genetic predisposition, but at the same time all of us begin to pop out more than one egg at a time...there are plenty of women who have no twins in their family that have twins, and plenty who have that genetic predisposition do not conceive twins. It is a minor thing and not any kind of guarantee. My grandma had fraternal twin boys and my mom, sister, and I had several pregnancies and did not conceive twins, and though I did eventually conceive twins, I was 39 years old at that point. So basically, your Grandpa and Mom were due to two totally different factors going on rather than an overwhelming tendency towards twinning, and neither of those things means you will necessarily have twins. I do want to point out that just by virtue of having 5 kids, you are at increased odds of twins because the more kids you have, the higher the rate of twinning (fraternal).

Personally, I would take the vitamins because not only will they sway blue for you, but I would rather have healthy twins who survived than lose one...it's very common to lose a twin early in pregnancy.

You can definitely overdose on vitamins, just double check to make sure you're not doubling up on anything.

[atomic sagebrush]

pp20 - does folic acid up the chances of twins then? I didn't know that...

There was a study that seemed to find that, but then there was a second study done (and this was on hundreds of thousands of women and a very well done study) and it turned out that the higher doses of folic just helped both babies to make it. Many pg start out as twins and then one twin is lost, and the folic cut down on the odds of that happening. It did not cause more twins to be conceived in the first place.

[love being a mummy]

I do want to point out that just by virtue of having 5 kids, you are at increased odds of twins because the more kids you have, the higher the rate of twinning (fraternal).

Personally, I would take the vitamins because not only will they sway blue for you, but I would rather have healthy twins who survived than lose one...it's very common to lose a twin early in pregnancy.

You can definitely overdose on vitamins, just double check to make sure you're not doubling up on anything.

I've heard before that the more kids you have the chance of twins increase but I've never known why that is?
I agree I would prefer 2 healthy babies aswell.

I am thinking of taking, blackmores conceive well gold, EPO and L-arg.

[atomic sagebrush]

Blackmores Conceive Well™ Gold prepares the body for conception. Some of the key nutrients include:

Antioxidants - are important for women attempting conception. Chances of conception increase in women with higher levels of antioxidants in the fluid surrounding their reproductive organs.
CoQ10 - Levels of CoQ10 decrease with age. Adequate levels of CoQ10 in the expectant mother are associated with healthy early stages of pregnancy.
Iodine - is important for the normal functioning of the thyroid gland as it is an essential nutrient required for the synthesis of thyroid hormones. Thyroid hormones affect almost every cell in the body and regulate oxygen use, metabolic rate and cellular metabolism. Iodine plays an important role in normal brain development and eyesight.
Tuna oil - is a source of omega-3 long chain fatty acids. DHA is particularly important for the normal function of the brain, and for development of normal eyesight.
Folic acid - plays a role in DNA and RNA synthesis, and is therefore critical in cellular division. In order to divide properly, cells need adequate folate. The development and growth of a foetus involves constant cell division, which can lead to an increase in the mother's demand for folate.
Vitamin C - is needed for hormone production and may help to stimulate normal ovulation. The developing egg needs adequate vitamin C to mature. The ovary contains one of the largest ascorbic acid stores in the body.
Vitamin D3 - supports calcium absorption and is essential for building and maintaining healthy bones. Low vitamin D levels are common in women during pregnancy.
Iron - a component of haemoglobin, an essential component of red blood cells. Haemoglobin transports oxygen in the body. Having optimal haemoglobin levels helps the cells of the body receive sufficient oxygen. Early foetal brain development requires adequate iron. As many as one quarter of Australian women have below recommended intakes of iron prior to conception.
Zinc - essential to good health as it is involved in many enzyme reactions in every cell of the body. Adequate levels of zinc support normal conception and are essential for a healthy baby's normal growth and development.
B group vitamins - play an essential role in the production of energy and support normal conception


Would it be ok to takes these + L-arg + EPO for a boy sway ?

I think those are great vitamins and I would have no qualms about taking them to TTC a boy.

Do be aware that the traditional sway diets hold that Vit. D is a girl supp because it helps with calcium absorption...but new research has come to light that indicates Vit D actually sways blue by raising testosterone.

[atomic sagebrush]

I've heard before that the more kids you have the chance of twins increase but I've never known why that is?
I agree I would prefer 2 healthy babies aswell.

I am thinking of taking, blackmores conceive well gold, EPO and L-arg.

They don't know why it is. One of the mysteries they have yet to unravel I guess.

[atomic sagebrush]

I took A, E, and Folic Acid because they help fertility and baby health. I stopped taking A and E with AF because they can cause birth defects during pregnancy if in high doses. I am taking high doses of Folic Acid because I wouldn't mind twins but if you took less then 800 then you should be ok for one healthy baby, but 1600-5000 would increase twinning.

Red Raspberry, Iron, and B's are good before and during pregnancy because they help the mom during and after labor. They do not harm the baby.

I do want to point out that Purple Poet has a health condition that limits her vitamin absorption and is taking the Vit. A on the advice of a doctor. 99.99% of women who are TTC should NOT take Vitamin A and like she mentioned, it can cause birth defects. Also, Vit A and Vit E are fat soluble vitamins and are stored in your fat for later use, so just stopping them at AF does not work...please, anyone who does not have a vitamin absorption problem and is not following the advice of a doctor, do NOT take Vitamin A prior to or during pregnancy (except for the tiny amounts that are present in some multivitamins and prenatals).

[love being a mummy]

I think those are great vitamins and I would have no qualms about taking them to TTC a boy.

Do be aware that the traditional sway diets hold that Vit. D is a girl supp because it helps with calcium absorption...but new research has come to light that indicates Vit D actually sways blue by raising testosterone.


Thank you. Do you think taking them for 1 month would be ok? I am taking EPO and L-arg at the moment but want to ttc maybe in Jan 2012. Is it ok to start the conceive 1 month before ttc ?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that's just fine!!

[love being a mummy]

Thank you so much for all your help I really appreciate it.

[zanacal]

Atomic - when I booked in with the midwife this week she said they now recommend taking vitamin D throughout your pregnancy, which is new since I had DS3. Any idea why this would be?

[atomic sagebrush]

Vit D is a bit of a wonder vitamin these days and so everyone is recommending it. I do think it's a great idea to take it throughout pg. It also may help prevent preeclampsia (altho that's a bit of a sketchy link).

My experience with Vit. D is that my son who was born in early May (so he was on board through the fall and winter months) had the absolute worst baby teeth that you have ever seen in your life, they started to disintegrate immediately after they came in, and had to have numerous crowns put on his baby teeth. (My older son had no cavities until he was 17 years old so it wasn't a matter of care or diet, because they were cared for and eating the same things). The children's dentistry specialist told me that he sees that all the time with kids born in springtime and he thought it was because of lack of Vit. D and sunshine when the teeth were forming, it makes the teeth not mineralize properly. So I took Vit. D with both DS 3 and 4 pregnancies and their baby teeth are perfectly normal just like my first son's teeth were.

[zanacal]

That's really good to know, thank you!