Waiting for O

[Babybeaublue]

Is it possible to O and never get a pos OPK? I'm on cd23 and neg again today. If I keep dtd eod is that ok for blue? I dont want to go overboard and bd every day but I'm afraid of only getting in one attempt.

Also, Is it possible to tell if you're having an anovulatory cycle if you don't temp? You can still have AF right?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes it is totally possible to never get a pos OPK and still ovulate! Just keep going with EOD, it's good for blue (the reason I don't recommend it is largely because many men can't keep up with that pace, if your hubby can it is fine to carry on)

It is possible sometimes to know if you had anov. cycle because when "AF" arrives it won't be on time, and it will be possibly really light OR really heavy and not follow the pattern of your normal AF. (so spotting for many days, or one day of heavy bleeding and then nothing, that kind of thing)

[XXforhubby]

This happened to me when TTCing and ended up with my DS3! I didn't think I would end up conceiving that month!

I agree, keep BDing EOD if you can! I'll send you all of the blue, baby dust I have!

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[maximbella]

I had that happen to me two cycles ago. I never got a positive on opk, but went in for an unrelated ultrasound (was having severe pains and doctor wanted to check it out) and the OB confirmed that I had O'd. My opk's never got dark. It definitely can happen! Are you temping?

[Babybeaublue]

No I find it all too stressful and I have to get up at different times in the mornings, sometimes 5am sometimes 6am.i wasn't even going to bother with the opks but I'm a bit of a control freak too! When do you think I should stop testing? Cd24 today, still neg.

[atomic sagebrush]

RE when to stop testing just follow your gut on that. As long as you're doing EOD then you're covered either way, if you want to continue them I think that's fine too.

[Babybeaublue]

Really bad headache today alllll day. Neg test again although I did get a line I didn't actually have to squint at to see! Have some opks left so I'll test for another couple of days.. God loves a tryer.

[Babybeaublue]

AF cd27 never had such a short cycle in my life. Always in the 30s. So annoyed I was actually getting a better line in opk yesterday. It's never taken me more than 2 months to get pregnant which I know is really lucky... this was my 2nd month ttc.
I stopped breastfeeding in Feb does it take a while for things to settle down after? Had my first pp AF in March.
Do you think I should start temping? Dd5 Is in the room with us and I was afraid of the beeping thermometer waking her. Also I'd have to take it at 5am every day :/

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok question - since your cycle is usually longer, when did you start doing the OPK? Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread, not seeing it. I'm just wondering if maybe we need to do OPK sooner.

I wouldn't bother with temping in that case.

Yes it can take a while for your cycle to settle down but then again 27 days is a lot more regular a cycle than 30+ days. So it may be that this is actually a good sign, you may be surging sooner.

[Babybeaublue]

I started opks around cd11 or 12 just in case. Never got anywhere close to +. I had a 29/30 day cycle last month. Not sure exactly, as I can't remember if I had proper flow or just spotting as cd1

[atomic sagebrush]

Let's start CD 9 next month.

[Babybeaublue]

Ok.
Just realised I counted cd27 which was actually cd1 so it was a 26day cycle

I'm taking a multivitamin
Fish oil
Co q10
Probiotic
Folic acid is that Ok?

Weights 4 times a week (previously 3 times a week for the past 2 years plus pilates once a week)
Yoga once a week
I used to workout on an empty stomach so I could just get on with it and not have to wait about. I'm trying to come up with ideas for preworkout snacks then have breakfast after.

Diet has been more or less the same as the past 2 years, porridge, chicken, fish, veg, avocado x2 a week, loads of eggs, dark chocolate, yogurt, Brown rice, peanut butter.
Once a week we have a vegetable pizza - pineapple/mushrooms/sweet corn
Once a week pasta which I've switched to wholewheat with Turkey mice and Bolognese sauce.
I've started having ham and cream cheese sometimes eggs as well in a muffin or with crackers.
Usually use coconut oil.
I add chia seeds, protein powder, dark chocolate, cacao powder and berries to my porridge. Twice a week Ill have avocado eggs and cream cheese on wholemeal toast for breakfast.
I'm struggling with snacks. I have dark chocolate peanuts, and at night I've started eating ice cream but not sure if that's ok (just been fancying it lately) I don't usually snack in the mornings but know I should. Just need ideas for when I'm out and about.

I have always drank black tea, but in the past 2 years have been drinking more coffee so I've cut back to 2 or 3 coffees a week (when im out and there's a starbucks calling me lol) and am drinking 2 or 3 teas a day. Just recently switched from semi skimmed to full fat milk. I drink 2l of water and also sodawater and either pineapple or pink grapefruit mixed with it.

Sorry this is a bit long : )


Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

All those diet changes look good. I think I'd ditch the chia seeds though. WE don't need any more vegetable fats then we have already.

How much fish oil?

Things like Larabars, granola bars, cheese sticks, peanut butter or cheese crackers, yogurts (even something like a Gogurt kind of thing!!)

Keep in mind that the idea of having protein and carbs at every meal and snack is so you don't have a blood sugar crash after eating like you would if you had pure carbs. BUT if you are in a situation where you have to eat mostly or all carbs (like out and about and it's the only option) that is still ok, but just be sure you eat again sooner, before the carbs have a chance to burn off and your blood sugar drops.

Keep up the good work!!

[Babybeaublue]

Ok. I thought chia seeds were good because they have protein and omega 3 fatty acids?
I'm taking 1000mg fish oil.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm not liking the amount of opposites we've gotten in people eating lots of things like this and wheat grass and EPO and flax, etc. I don't trust them at all any more.

I would also suggest dropping back on the fish oil to more liek 500 or else taking every other day. Fish oil can lower cholesterol and since estrogen and testosterone are made of cholesterol I worry that it may actually be harming our chances to go overboard on that. Anyone who has had a failed sway I am having them cut that by 1/2.

[Babybeaublue]

Ok I'll do that then. No more chia either!! Thanks :)

[LMSM]

Sorry to hihhjack Babybeaublue ... fx for you hon!
Just noted Atomics comment...Oooh no I've been taking a 1500 fish oil tab daily :( and wheatgrass occasionally too (though not that often due to horrid taste)...
Hope it's not too bad?! if this cycle didn't work I guess I will drop to eod for the fish oil then

[Babybeaublue]

I'm not taking wheatgrass at all. Took it last time but as a supplement every day. I had actually started eod with the fish oil very recently but I keep forgetting which day to take it so I probably messed it up a bit lol

[Babybeaublue]

I'm in the UK so can't get larabars was wondering if Nakd bars, eat natural or anything fruit and nutty are Ok?

Also had to Google gogurt lol that's like frubes over here- the stuff in tubes?

I was wondering if I should switch from coconut oil to butter for cooking my eggs? Or is the oil Ok? Also I always use Himalayan pink salt (not every day) is this ok to use?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'd switch to butter - the coconut oil ~should~ be ok and it's what I have vegans use but the study hasn't been done to show me that it's as good as animal fats.

Anything fruit/nut that does not contain bunch of soy protein in it is good.

Yes exactly, you can freeze them and take them along and they stay cold that way.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry to hihhjack Babybeaublue ... fx for you hon!
Just noted Atomics comment...Oooh no I've been taking a 1500 fish oil tab daily :( and wheatgrass occasionally too (though not that often due to horrid taste)...
Hope it's not too bad?! if this cycle didn't work I guess I will drop to eod for the fish oil then

Drop the fish oil to EOD right away. Occasional wheatgrass juice I don't have a problem with it's mainly the people taking large doses in supp form.

[LMSM]

Drop the fish oil to EOD right away. Occasional wheatgrass juice I don't have a problem with it's mainly the people taking large doses in supp form.

Cool thanks hon - ;) will do straight away !

[Babybeaublue]

I can only get 300mg fish oil OR dha made from fish and krill oil. Which is better?

[atomic sagebrush]

Either is fine.

[Babybeaublue]

Cd6 and crampy. Don't know what's going on! Is testing cd9 still ok?

[atomic sagebrush]

If you must!! :nails: You know me, I like you guys to all hold out as long as you can but if you're feeling it, go for it.

[Babybeaublue]

It was cd9 that you told me to start the opks?? Is that early enough? Too early??

[atomic sagebrush]

Perfect!!

Agh I misread your message, I thought you were asking me to do a pregnancy test 9 days past O. (sorry I have a splitting headache today!!)

I am often crampy starting as early as CD 3-6 for CD 14 O. So yes yes I want you to start OPK CD 9 (but don't start taking pregnancy tests 9 DPO)

Gosh I am SO SORRY!!!

[Babybeaublue]

Lol I'm not surprised you misread it with the amount of posts you have to go through!
Love the new pic too she's adorable :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you!!