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3girlsadd1blue
June 16th, 2017, 10:07 AM
We will be making our first attempt today most likely.
I wasn't expecting to ovulate until the 18th at the earliest so my dh and I dtd, protected, on the 13th and 14th and I got a + opk at 8pm on the 15th. I usually get a + opk in the morning and ovulate the next day. So I'm assuming with me getting a late + I will ovulate on the 17th sometime.
Should my dh and I bd tonight or wait till the 17th? If we wait till the 17th we won't be able to bd until around 730pm.
Also since he only has a 2 day abstinence is that going to be OK for a boy sway?
Any tips?

3girlsadd1blue
June 16th, 2017, 10:08 AM
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3girlsadd1blue
June 16th, 2017, 10:10 AM
I actually think my looks from yesterday are negative and I got my first + this morning?
The top 3 are from yesterday and the bottom one is from this morning

Babybeaublue
June 16th, 2017, 11:12 AM
Bottom looks positive!
2 days is fine although if protected I'd say make sure you get at least 2 attempts in, if not 3.
Bd no more than 3 days in a row is the advice I think I read.

atomic sagebrush
June 16th, 2017, 12:29 PM
2 day abstinence is fine for a boy sway! Anything from 2-4 days prior to fertile window and once that fertile window opens you should be having attempts, PLURAL!!

Yes yes please BD tonight. You can't assume anything about what time of day you'll O and it would be a very bad move to wait till the 17th. We have had more girls than boys conceived with only one attempt in fertile window so we need to try not to limit ourselves to that. Tonight and tomorrow too and then again on the 17th!

atomic sagebrush
June 16th, 2017, 12:30 PM
Bottom looks positive!
2 days is fine although if protected I'd say make sure you get at least 2 attempts in, if not 3.
Bd no more than 3 days in a row is the advice I think I read.

If the fertile window is open it's ok to BD 3 days in a row.

Babybeaublue
June 16th, 2017, 03:20 PM
Yes! That's what I meant not more than 3?

atomic sagebrush
June 17th, 2017, 01:38 PM
No, I generally want you guys to keep going if you can.

What we are trying to avoid is tons of attempts that start before the fertile window is open culminate in O. So like 7 BD in a row and then the 7th or 8th day is O day. By the time the egg shows up the early attempts are all dead and hubby is often shooting dust by that point.

But once the fertile window is open, CM is present and the sperm all have some chance of making it to the egg. Even if O is delayed by a couple days and you end up getting many days of pos OPK in a row, we're adding more and more sperm to the mix.

To illustrate using numbers I am making up and not specific to any one person and in fact most men make more:

1)a couple starts BD right after AF ends and DTD daily thru O. The early batches are in the infertile part of the cycle and by the time the fertile window opens the daily release has depleted sperm numbers so even with a 5 day fertile window (best case scenario) 5-10 million sperm per batch ends up being 25 million thru 50 mill sperm total (and many of those would have capacitated and died long before egg shows up)

2)A couple BD every 2-4 days for max sperm numbers. Then once fertile window opens they have 3 more attempts deliberately, 100 million, 50 million, and 20 million sperm (which happens because the guy is not totally depleted) this is right away going to be more than option one. But say they keep getting positive OPK. Even if the guy is running out of gas and now releasing the 5-10 million as in option one, that will be added onto those first batches (which can stay alive since fertile window is open, at least some portion of them will) Now, at some point, you are probably going to get sick of the whole thing and so it's ok to take a day off in there somewhere but if you are pretty sure you have not ovulated yet, it may behoove you to keep rolling with it once the process has begun.

The worst thing you'd want to do is start off with option one, be in the fertile window with a few puny attempts and then decide, "eh that's enough" and end up not only with one attempt in the fertile window, and a pink frequency pattern with all the releases back to back, but even have a cutoff to boot (which doesn't sway, but cannot help in this situation since the sperm woud simply continue to capacitate and die!!)

atomic sagebrush
June 17th, 2017, 01:38 PM
No, I generally want you guys to keep going if you can.

What we are trying to avoid is tons of attempts that start before the fertile window is open culminate in O. So like 7 BD in a row and then the 7th or 8th day is O day. By the time the egg shows up the early attempts are all dead and hubby is often shooting dust by that point.

But once the fertile window is open, CM is present and the sperm all have some chance of making it to the egg. Even if O is delayed by a couple days and you end up getting many days of pos OPK in a row, we're adding more and more sperm to the mix.

To illustrate using numbers I am making up and not specific to any one person and in fact most men make more:

1)a couple starts BD right after AF ends and DTD daily thru O. The early batches are in the infertile part of the cycle and by the time the fertile window opens the daily release has depleted sperm numbers so even with a 5 day fertile window (best case scenario) 5-10 million sperm per batch ends up being 25 million thru 50 mill sperm total (and many of those would have capacitated and died long before egg shows up)

2)A couple BD every 2-4 days for max sperm numbers. Then once fertile window opens they have 3 more attempts deliberately, 100 million, 50 million, and 20 million sperm (which happens because the guy is not totally depleted) this is right away going to be more than option one. But say they keep getting positive OPK. Even if the guy is running out of gas and now releasing the 5-10 million as in option one, that will be added onto those first batches (which can stay alive since fertile window is open, at least some portion of them will) Now, at some point, you are probably going to get sick of the whole thing and so it's ok to take a day off in there somewhere but if you are pretty sure you have not ovulated yet, it may behoove you to keep rolling with it once the process has begun.

The worst thing you'd want to do is start off with option one, be in the fertile window with a few puny attempts and then decide, "eh that's enough" and end up not only with one attempt in the fertile window, and a pink frequency pattern with all the releases back to back, but even have a cutoff to boot (which doesn't sway, but cannot help in this situation since the sperm woud simply continue to capacitate and die!!)

3girlsadd1blue
June 18th, 2017, 10:27 AM
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I got my first + opk on the 15th at 8pm and continued to get + opks till about 6pm on the 16th. At 8 pm on the 16th my opk started going negative. We BD AT 10PM and again on the 17th at 930 pm. I usually take my temp at 630 am but this morning when I should of gotten my spike, I woke up at 5am, an hour and half earlier then usual, took my temp and it was only 97.16. So not a big spike. Which could have been so to me waking earlier then normal? I believe I Oed yesterday but any opinions? Maybe I didnt?
Should we BD today? We dtd on the 13th and 14th protected. Swaying boy

3girlsadd1blue
June 18th, 2017, 10:29 AM
I was looking at previous temps where I would wake up at 530am, take my temps fall back asleep and wake up again an hour later and take my temp one more time I seen that my temp would usually rise .3 to .4 degrees in that one hour. So maybe if I had taken my temp at 630 this morning it would have been .4 degrees higher?

atomic sagebrush
June 18th, 2017, 12:04 PM
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I got my first + opk on the 15th at 8pm and continued to get + opks till about 6pm on the 16th. At 8 pm on the 16th my opk started going negative. We BD AT 10PM and again on the 17th at 930 pm. I usually take my temp at 630 am but this morning when I should of gotten my spike, I woke up at 5am, an hour and half earlier then usual, took my temp and it was only 97.16. So not a big spike. Which could have been so to me waking earlier then normal? I believe I Oed yesterday but any opinions? Maybe I didnt?
Should we BD today? We dtd on the 13th and 14th protected. Swaying boy

If you Oed yesterday then BD now won't hurt anything (egg would be either fertilized or dead by now). If you didn't, if O is still yet to come, then it may make all the difference in the world to attempt and yes yes I'd have you go for it today as well.

atomic sagebrush
June 18th, 2017, 12:06 PM
Yes that's the problem with temps - they are not 100% reliable and since we're dealing with such minor fluctuations - tenths of degrees - then even the smallest little flukey thing can affect them. So we have to go off the overall patter - 3 days of higher than coverline temps - and can't pin down O day to the day unless in retrospect and even in retrospect it is somewhat of a toss up about what day it actually happened on.