Preparing for sway, will ttc in 6 months

[Verena]

Hello everybody!

We are planning to ttc from the beginning of next year and after two beautiful boys I would like to start a "light" sway for a girl. Light because I would be totally happy with a third boy as well. Here are my thoughts about the sway, I would appreciate your opinion very much :-)

I would like to lose some weight anyway, so the main part of the sway will be the diet. Normally I drink three latte macchiato each day. I'm not sure if this kind of coffee drink is known in the US. It's about 200 ml milk with an espresso. I usually drink one in the early morning, one around 10 am and one after lunch. Also I usually don't have breakfast. That was what i used to do when I conceived my two boys as well. Does the milk in my latte macchiato have such a strong effect that it rather counts as a meal? Or can I continue to drink it the way i do without having a negative impact on my sway? Does milk in general sway pink or blue? I drink milk with 1,5% fat. Would it help to take 0,1% fat milk? Not sure if that would taste at all though...

Alternatively I could imagine drinking diet coke after getting up in the morning, skipping the 10 pm latte macchiato (or have another diet coke, would that sway pink?) and only drink one latte macchiato directly after lunch. Would this have a great impact?

I think in my sway I will have regular dinner with my family in the evening and try to adjust lunch in a way that I stay roughly in the limits of LE diet. I'm vegetarian anyway. Does that sound reasonable to you?

We will also do only one attempt at +opk. Do you suggest anything else that we can do that is not too complex? Anything hubby can take? I read something about olive leaf?

And last but not least question: What would be the best time to start with the diet?

Looking forward to your answers :-)

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome, can you give this a bump for me? I want to reply when I have adequate time

[Verena]

Hi atomic, so I'm bumping :-)

And I've got another question. My vitamin D3 blood level is catastrophically low. I think also for the health of the baby this should be fixed before I get pregnant. I read vit D sways strongly blue. Do you think, if I get a high dose injection now, this would still have an effect on my sway?

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[atomic sagebrush]

If you're actually deficient in something you need to take it. The warnings against supplemental vitamins are for people who are taking them for swaying (some say Vit. D sways pink, evne though this information is incorrect) or just because they think they should.

Anything you need for health, must be taken regardles of how it is thought to sway.

[atomic sagebrush]

Is there any way you can switch to something that doesn't have the large amount of milk in it?? We get great results with coffee for swaying pink, but that is really quite a bit of milk over the course of the day. it would def. be a meal in my book. So if you have it with a meal, that's better, but I wouldn't want you to have to go from that to a diet coke in the morning, that will be way less caffeine and will probably give you a headache. Try coffee instead.

Skim milk may help (only those with PCOS or tendencies that way should not use skim milk though).

Yes that is very much like what I did - I ate basically what my family did for dinner, just cut back or out on the meat. Ate LE for lunch and my bedtime snack (I ate 3 meals on LE Diet because that is what worked best for me.)

Cardio exercise for you, 60 min. a day, 5-7 days a week also gets good results.

OLE has gotten ok results, if you want him to take it, the dose is 500-1000 mg dry leaf started right away, continued till BFP, then have him wean off by gradually spacing doses further and further out till down till one per week, then he can drop.

We have best results with 12 weeks or more, but anything longer than 6-8 weeks is acceptibly good.

[Verena]

Thank you so much atomic! I will replace the morning latte macchiatos by coffee then. Can I use some milk (like 20 ml) in that coffee or would that ruin the positive effect of the coffee?



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[atomic sagebrush]

A little milk or cream is fine, it's just when it's like 2 cups worth, the nutrients start to add up.

[Verena]

Thank you again, I will do it that way. I also read that fibre is recommended. As I understand it, those are some pills, do I think I could easily incorporate it into my sway. Do you have a recommendation concerning what kind of fibre to tske and how much? What is it that makes fibre sway pink?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Any kind of fiber that you can get easily without much effort (so like whatever is at your local chemist or grocery store) I don't recommend brands because they just vary too much from place to place.

Fiber absorbs some fat and fat soluble nutrients from your diet so it's as if you didn't even eat them. :)

[Verena]

I've got one more question. If I do the cardio thing, do I have to do it for at least 12 weeks also? I saw the good results in your statistics, but I'm not sure I have enough willpower to do it longer than a few weeks...

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[atomic sagebrush]

No, we've had good results with exercise only 6 weeks.

[Verena]

Hello ladies, I have two questions regarding your statistics:

What would be "some" and "lots" coffee? Or: how much do I have to drink to be counted as lots? ;-)

What is it with raspberry & / or peppermint tea? The statistics are crazy with 57 successful sways of 59 in total. But I've never read the recommendation to drink those teas here, so I guess there must be some strange statistical effect with them?

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[atomic sagebrush]

These are self-reported stats and they are what they are. I cannot say what each individual person defined this as, but as a general rule I think that "some" is 1-2 cups a day and "lots" is more than that. Please let's not go overboard with "lots" as too much coffee can make a person feel ill, so keep it 3-5 cups absolute max.

That is some sort of error in the stats. I've asked that it be removed since as you can see (from the peppermint tea result directly beneath that) that peppermint tea is not very effective and RRLT is something I have used only for less than 5 people all of whom had been trying to conceive for a very, very long time.

[Verena]

Thank you so much for clarification, atomic! :-)

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[Verena]

Hi atomic,

I apologize for this control freaky question in advance ;-)

As I wrote above in this thread, I used to drink almost one liter of milk (or even more if you also count yoghurt) when I conceived my boys. After reading a lot on this site I'm actually convinced now that this huge amount of dairy made my otherwise quite pink friendly diet (no breakfast, vegetarian, no snacking) turn into the blue direction.

I'm really a milk addict but of course I don't want to reduce my chances for pink. Would you advice to cut out milk completely or what amount would be "ok"?



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[atomic sagebrush]

You and me both, Verena. That was among the very first doubts I had about swaying the "old school" way is that I had always, always had tons of dairy and gotten boys doing that. My husband and I used to drink a gallon of milk a day between us!!

Now, this doesn't mean you now have to ban milk forever from your diet, not at all. Just keep it within the LE Diet limits for protein, fat, and calories and it can still be a part of your diet. With my successful sway I did have the least amount of dairy for sure but I did have the Yoplait yogurts and American cheese (not really quite dairy LOL) and then occasionally sour cream, and plus milk in my coffee every day.

[Verena]

Hi atomic,

I hope I can convince hubby to start trying to conceive from february. So I'm adjusting my diet atm and also will start excercising. I have many many questions, I hope that's ok :-)

I have been on a not so strict diet for 4 or 5 months now, skipping breakfast, staying under 1800 kcal and reducing protein and fat. I have lost about 10 lbs and bmi is at 25 now.

I found out that it's easier for me to follow the PCOS type of diet. I think I read it has the same chances for pink, even if you don't have PCOS, as the "normal" LE diet, am I getting this right?

So I'm trying to eat 50-60 g fat and protein at about 1800 kcal. Is it ok to have two meals a day with quite big amounts of whole grain? Like 0,4 lbs whole grain spelt pasta or 0,5 lbs whole grain spelt bread?

Is spelt ok in general? The spelt flakes on the outside of my bread look like oatmeal which is worrying me a bit. Is there a theory actually why oatmeal is swaying blue?

I also eat sandwiches at Subway's quite often. They call one bread whole grain but I think it's rather only 20% whole grain. Is that ok to eat 3 or 4 times a week or will the white flour "destroy" the effects of PCOS diet? I even measured my blood sugar one hour after a sandwich. I often feel shaky after lunch, I had a thread about this a while ago, maybe you remember. Blood sugar was at 124, I think that's totally normal (but I'm no expert).

So my diet would be based on two meals a day of whole grain pasta / bread, Subway Sandwiches or potatoes. Plus smaller amounts of sauce, vegetarian sausage (based on egg white) on my bread, vegetables and I'm also trying to eat some fruits or salat with every meal. Plus about 13 oz of milk (1,5% fat) for my coffee.

What do you think about this? I hope I can do it that way as it is so easy for me to follow this diet :-) But please tell me if you have the slightest doubts about it.

Thank you so much in advance!



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[atomic sagebrush]

oooh exciting! Good luck!!

yes if anything the PCOS-type diet is getting better results.

Anything within limits is fine. Whatever works best for you.

Spelt is fine and several ladies have eaten it as a part of their pink sway.

Oats have a chemical in them that other grains don't have that is said to raise testosterone.

2 or 3 meals, both fine, whatever works for you.

Yes I think it's fine to do the Subway, don't worry about the small amounts of white flour in there.

yes that's normal blood sugar after eating.

Everything else is looking great to me!

[Verena]

oooh exciting! Good luck!!

yes if anything the PCOS-type diet is getting better results.

Anything within limits is fine. Whatever works best for you.

Spelt is fine and several ladies have eaten it as a part of their pink sway.

Oats have a chemical in them that other grains don't have that is said to raise testosterone.

2 or 3 meals, both fine, whatever works for you.

Yes I think it's fine to do the Subway, don't worry about the small amounts of white flour in there.

yes that's normal blood sugar after eating.

Everything else is looking great to me!Wohoo so that's the plan for the next months! :D Thank you so much for your help and taking all the time to answer!!

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