New girl swayer

[jillhardie]

Hi there!

I'm new to the site and recently began my girl sway. I've posted it on the forum for reviewing sway plans.
I have two boys, 3.5 and 1.5 and I'm itching for a girl! We plan to start our first attempt at the end of September. I'm hoping starting the diet this week will give us enough time before the first attempt!

[jillhardie]

Here is my sway.. let me know what you think!


I*think I've overwhelmed myself with pink sway info on the Internet but I'm feeling most comfortable with the more relaxed approach here. However, I am the type of person that functions best with strict rules to follow so I have struggled trying to find balance between so much conflicting information.
I have two sons and this is likely our last child so I would love to have a daughter but will be happy regardless.

We will start trying at the end of September. I started the LE diet today but went too hardcore and realized by the end of the day that I still need to eat a lot more. I am currently breastfeeding my 18 month old at night and nap times so my average calorie goal is 1800-2000. I'm 120 lbs, which is low for me so I can't afford to lose much.*

Aside from the diet I'm leaning towards the every 4 day attempt. I'm trying to track ovulation but having a terrible time because temping is hard when I wind up in bed with my little one most nights. We will also do the frequent release method rather than abstaining. I am not keen on taking any supplements, maybe calcium and magnesium if anything. I have just switched from drinking tea every morning to drinking coffee. I bought sylk for the attempt but might also get replens or repress. Other than chasing around my kids all day I haven't had regular exercise. I'm going to try to swim laps most days and/or go for long walks with the dogs.

My goal calories is 1800-2000, fat - 270-540g, protein- 40-50g and sodium - 700-1000mg
I am taking folic acid.
I will try represh this cycle and see how it goes before our attempt. I will take it every three days after af until one day before attempt.*
I'm going to start having one peppermint tea a day. My husband will not do the full diet but he will take licorice root from af to o.
I will also take benadryl for 5 days before o during the attempt months.
I think we also might do cutoff instead of every 4 days to see how that goes at first.

My two boys were both conceived in the first month of trying. We used preseed both times and tried everyday for a week around cd14. Hopefully this is different in enough ways for us to have a girl this time around!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi again Jill!

You're on the right track with the relaxed approach. Time after time we see the people who are the most control-freak, kitchen sink type swayers getting opposites and the laid back gals succeeding! :)

I think much of this I've covered elsewhere but yes I do want you at LEAST at 1800-2000 and many nursing swayers have to even boost that higher. Let's aim at 50-60 g protein and fat (we got the fat confusion sorted out already) as well.

What I'd do to start with, is aim the e4d method a day or even more so further apart. That way you'll still be in with 1 attempt without any risk of possibly getting 2 attempts in by mistake. So instead of doing (example) Monday/Thursday, stretch that one more day (or even more if you so choose) to Mon/Fri or beyond. Then over time we can squeeze the attempts closer. You are more than welcome to start off with the Mon/Thurs. pattern if you prefer, but further attempts ~may~ be better odds of pink.

No pep tea and Benadryl for nursing moms (think we discussed that already)

Hope this helps - let me know if anything is less than clear. :)

[jillhardie]

Thanks! Maybe we will try E5D. Is E6D too far apart that we could end up without any attempt in the window? Do we start right after AF until past O? I'm happy to start off a farther before going to E4Ds as I've always gotten pregnant right away. If this takes longer then it will be longer on the diet. I think I will be 9 weeks on the diet before first attempt. Not getting pregnant the first attempt can only help, I think.

[jillhardie]

Is 60 minutes of walking daily enough cardio?

[atomic sagebrush]

I am totally fine with you guys starting off e6 or even e7 days that first month or two. Yes, there's a bigger element of luck involved but it is still totally poss to luck your way right into success and it is for SURE going to be one attempt that way.

60 min. walking is GREAT! I love you guys to walk, since people often get injured doing more bouncy, jarring forms of exercise.

[jillhardie]

Thanks so much!

A few more questions - if I can get Clomid, would that change anything else for my sway? How often we attempt?
I decided against licorice root for DH but I see some people are doing Olive leaf extract? Is that a good option? I'm 32 and my husband is 38.
I also read that DH smoking sways pink. Would a cigar here and there count?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, Clomid will change some things. IF you don't mind, let's hold off to see if you do get Clomid. Tons of people will ask me that very question and then NOT get the Clomid so it is an expenditure of time that prefer to keep for those who do get it.

My husband smoked the occasional pipe and it was the ONLY thing he did for our successful sway. :agree:

OLE is not a replacement for LR, it is a replacement for cranberry (not sure if you were planning that.) So if you want to do OLE then no cranberry for him. 500-1000 mg daily started right away and at BFP, have him gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then you can drop.

[jillhardie]

Thanks! He started OLE today. Any other recommendations for DH? I didn't like the side effects of licorice root because it sounded....demasculating? I figured it wouldn't be the most enjoyable experience, unlike the coffee, drinking and smoking parts of the sway!
Is it worth trying to get Clomid? Does it make a much stronger sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, exactly, and that may be worth it for some people if it worked, but it isn't getting good results anyway.

Clomid is the best of the best sway tactic because not only does it work, it's impossible to mess up (easy enough to struggle with diet/exercise, but Clomid is easy peasy)

Jogging/biking has also been shown in studies to sway pink so if he'd do either then that's great.

[jillhardie]

Hi again! Thanks so much for your advice - I'm feeling really good about the sway so far, which in turn is allowing me to be more relaxed!
I've stuck to the diet, including cheats once in a while. I don't always keep track of the exact numbers tallying calories/protein/fat but I do always stay vegetarian. My son has been on overdrive with nursing recently so I thought it would be reasonable to cheat a bit anyway.

I've been takin folate and my husband has been taking olive leaf extract and that has been it for supplements.
Most days I get out for an hour walk but it isn't always all at once (sometimes half an hour in the morning and half an hour in the afternoon) although chasing around my kids daily seems to lead to constant exercise.
I am planning on trying for clomid soon and hoping to add that to the sway but will update if that pans out.
Otherwise, I've had coffee every morning - was never a coffee drinker before. And my husband and I started a new nightly ritual of drinks on the back deck after the id's are in bed. One to two glasses of wine for me, a drink for him and one cigarello for him. Not only has this been a nice wind down to help us relax more, but it's been really nice for our marriage too!
We will start trying in another month and I just wanted to see if I'm missing anything? When we start trying I see that one attempt at positive opk is probably easiest. Followed by j&d five minutes later?
Thanks so much for your help! It's really become a lot easier after sorting through this site!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just be sure, if not tracking, that you are eating enough. The real reason to track nutrients is to be sure people are eating enough to get and stay pregnant, NOT for the sway.

Everything else is looking great! Good luck!

[jillhardie]

Hello!

I wanted to put in an update on the sway. We had our first attempt and am awaiting my cycle in the next few days. I have no indication that I am pregnant so I'm gearing up for attempt number two.
A few bumps so far - as you predicted, not tracking diet has probably led to me not getting enough food/protein. I've lost more weight than I was hoping to so from now on I will track everything and try to hit the max allotments until my weight is up a bit more.
I used the clearblue flashing smiley opk and was so confused as it went from empty circle to peak within 24 hours (no flashing smiles). It took me a day to realize that it meant peak ovulaton so we may have got our attempt in a little too late. Going forward, what is best? Continue with one attempt at pos opk (and test twice a day this time) or forget the tests and just do every 4 day attempts?
Lastly, I had purchased sylk early on in my sway research and we used a small amount mostly because I hated wasting my money and not using it. I don't want to use it if it is preventing pregnancy. Is a tiny amount okay? I really don't want to switch to a small amount of preseed only because we used it to get both of our boys.

Thanks again! Hoping this month will work out a little more clearly for us!

[atomic sagebrush]

Every 4 days will at least cover you if something like that happens. It's up to you...if you're ready to switch I think it's a fine way to go.

If you use just a teeny amount of Sylk it probably doens't cut odds of conception very much if at all. The people who have problems with that usually are using a larger amount. So if you need a lube then go ahead just don't overdo.

[jillhardie]

Month two has come up negative. PlannING our next attempt and looking at what I can adjust to help boost conception without compromising the sway. I've found my weight has dropped pretty low so I've adjusted my diet to continue vegetarian but I'm not worrying about calories/fat/protein. I'm hoping this will keep the weight from going any lower as I was worried I would stop ovulating. Is there is a better approach to this that will make the sway better?
I'm going to cut out Sylk. I don't think we need it if it isn't helping at all.
This month I ovulated very early (day 9) and had a short cycle. Last month was the opposite with a much longer cycle. Since I was having trouble tracking ovulation we did E4D this month and I think I'll do the same next month. I'm hoping to not go too many more months before getting pregnant. I figure at the very least, I'm building a legitimate case for getting Clomid.

Any suggestions going forward this month?

[atomic sagebrush]

just keeping calories up and then trying to keep protein and fat in 50-60 g range is better than increasing everything, if you can swing it. It's cals of carbs that help keep weight on, lesser extent fat, and protein brings up the rear in terms of keeping weight stable.

:agree: ditch the Sylk

Agree with doing e4d!! Yes definitely!!!

[PINKwish16]

Hi, hope you don’t mind me jumping in with a question? What does chomid actually do to sway? Is it because you know when you will ovulate?

Also in regards to timing (the whole girl sperm being slower but stronger has been debunked I understand) but what is the THE best thing to do re timing, just one attempt on ovulation day? What is it you want to avoid in timing when trying for a girl?

Huge thanks! Xx

[atomic sagebrush]

No, it has nothing to do with when you ovulate because timing doesn't sway.

We honestly don't know why Clomid sways. We only know that it does.

Ovulation day is not a good day of the cycle to conceive on. So we aim for one attempt at positive OPK. This is 24-36 hours prior to ovulation for most of us. It's not because it sways, but because it is a good chance of conceiving.

[PINKwish16]

Thanks atomic!

So why the one attempt for girl sways? Or is this the advice whether trying for a boy or a girl? And I’m guessing the every 4 days (or more) is for people with unpredictable cycles and unsure when they may ovulate?

I have three boys, one conceived with intercourse at POS ov test, and regular intercourse prior. Second I had one attempt at pos ov test and another attempt two days later. And third the I heard about swaying for girls so tried to get myself ‘acidic’ with certain foods etc, I did stop getting CM and I had intercourse every other day and stopped the Day before I got my pos ov test for that cycle. I had in my head the longer the sperm waited the more like female sperm would be about.
I’ve probably done everything boy sway without even realising in the other aspects of life.

Just get myself so confused with info. If timing doesn’t sway, why the advice for one attempt?

What would you say seems to be the most important contributor to conceiving a girl? Is it the LE diet? Hellllp meee!!! :bowdown: x

[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know why it works, but it became crystal clear over time that the one attempt was effective for pink. No clue why. It has nothing to do with timing. Regardless of the day of your attempt relative to O, the one attempt still swayed pink. Now I can speculate about why if you'd like me to and give you more info about how we came to know this but the basic thing to keep in mind is that one attempt HAS worked for people and we focus more on doing what has actually worked rather than theorizing and wasting time and energy chasing theories that were either debunked or never proven.

e4d can be in essence like one attempt because by the time the next BD rolls around, the swimmers from the previous batch have died out. So it's just a no-brainer way of doing one attempt for those with long/irregular cycles or who don't get positive OPK regularly to have the one attempt.

Diet, exercise, one attempt, and Clomid or Femara if you can get it. Most important for pink

[PINKwish16]

Thank you atomic!

Isn’t clomid and femara for ladies with PCOS? I don’t have a problem ovulating, so I guess I wouldn’t be able to get it? plus I’d end up with a multiple pregnancy if I did!! Haha

Another important question is birth control. I am currently breastfeeding and will go onto the combined contraceptive pill (with estrogen and progesterone) until we are ready to start trying as I’ll want to get my weight down (carrying a lot of extra) and be on the LE for a while. What is your feeling toward the pill and swaying pink? I would want to give it my best shot this final time.

So an hour exercise a day? Walking/cycling? I’m guessing on LE ladies don’t have a lot of energy? Swimming I can easily enjoy.

In regards to LE diet, please could you point me in the right direction on where to follow the diet instructions? I’m struggling to figure out what it is I should be eating and avoiding. Although I understand the idea behind it, I don’t want to decide myself what to eat incase it’s wrong, I’d rather follow a plan (if there is one)??

I’m happy with the one attempt you explain and thatll definitely be implemented!! Thank you atomic for all your help xxxx

[atomic sagebrush]

While PCOSers use them, no, they aren't just for people with PCO. In fact it's the women with PCOS who are at the highest risk of multiples since their ovaries tend to make a lot of eggs anyway. But yes, it is a risk.

I think the pill sways pink, when you come off it try to catch the first egg or second for best results.

LE Diet is here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html We have a 21 day diet book available for sale in our membership and plans section, but you don't need it. There are no forbidden foods on LE Diet. You just stay in the limits for the day.

[PINKwish16]

Thank you atomic, so you can eat anything at all as long as you check packets and do not exceed the daily amounts. (As I guess, for example, an amount of protein is in most foods so would need add up as I go along?)

I’m quite interested in the more info you offered on the one attempt (if you have a link to it)

Just one more thing, do you have any strong opinions on what the men should be doing to up the chances of pink? As they are the ones harbouring the things that determine gender there must be something could influence/sway one way or other??��
Xx

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes exactly. all foods are ok in limits.

2 proven things: Jogging/biking and smoking

2 possible things: Olive leaf extract and soy milk

There are other things that people do but none of them seem to have panned out.

[PINKwish16]

Thank you! What are your thoughts on ladies drinking alcohol, smoking and drinking lots of water for a girl sway?

And what is Myoinositol??

[atomic sagebrush]

Drinking alcohol :agree:

Smoking - why would you do that before conceiving?? NO. Ok for DH tho

I do not like you guys messing with your hydration levels when swaying. Please just drink to your level of thirst and do NOT NOT NOT NOT x a milion either restrict fluid or drink tons of water. You can literally kill yourself by imbalancing your electrolytes and since we are on a restrictive diet anyway it's just best not to mess around with things like that for no reason since they have not been proven to sway.

Myoinositol is only for people with moderate to severe PCOS and not for others.

[PINKwish16]

Oh ok, the department of Health recommend 4 pints of water a day, I don’t drink that unless I make a special effort with a drinks bottle or something but I meant it as is it important to drink more in sway terms if you don’t really drink very much at all anyway? Not meaning to excessively drink water.

With smoking I know lots of people who occasionally smoke when they drink and stop when they find out they are pregnant, as with alcohol, so again was just wondering about the swaying influences. I don’t smoke so that’s fine if you don’t like to suggest it anyway.

I was a little confused with the advice for folic acid being so high? The recommendations are 400 micrograms preconception through to 12 weeks here where I live. So are the amounts you suggest for swaying then?
Thanks again, sorry I keep thinking a new question every time. Suppose it’s best to be sure on things than not bothering to ask. Thanks atomicxx

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend, just answer questions fast and sometimes don't sugarcoat it as much as I should.

just drink to your level of thirst. I know some governments like to recommend drinking water but the best data we have indicates that drinking to your thirst (while not overdoing things like soda pop) is just fine

I don't like to recommend smoking for women.

No, the recommendation is not for swaying. It is because you are eating a more restrictive diet. You'll be getting less folic acid and folate via diet and also possibly drinking extra coffee and alcohol.

I know, again, what the governments say about 400 mcg but I personally, myself, conceived a baby with a neural tube defect taking 800 a day and eating a super healthy and non restricted diet. Many sources recommend 800-1000 and again we are eating less healthfully so I just prefer you guys take the higher amount. It's up to you, of course.

[Prayingpinkgirl]

I have been reading a lot of the sway pink forums over the past couple months. I finally made an account. I wanted to know if I could have some assistance in a last minute sway. I have been tracking my Ovulation. I have a 26 day cycle for the most part. I just started my cycle Dec. 3rd and I am due for ovulation Dec. 15th. This is 2nd month ttc. Last month my cut off was 4-5 days cut off with one shot bd with a finger of aci jel inserted 2 hrs prior. Ended with bfn....The vitamins my husband has been taking is Lic Root, Acidohilus, Cranberry pills, vit. c and baby asprin every other day for the past 4/5 months. He also has been drinking about half a gallon of crystal light a day. I have been taking cranberry pills, vit c, folic acid and Benadryl nightly. I also drink crystal light. I also drink about 1 cup of coffee daily with 2 packets of equal. We eat chicken and ground turkey almost daily. Low on the red meat. I have been trying to keep track of PH...mine is usually low 4-4.5 and husband is around 8. Do you have any advice. I am 31 and husband is 29 and we have an 8 year old boy and really just want to complete our family with a baby girl :)[/

[Prayingpinkgirl]

I have been reading a lot of the sway pink forums over the past couple months. I finally made an account. I wanted to know if I could have some assistance in a last minute sway. I have been tracking my Ovulation. I have a 26 day cycle for the most part. I just started my cycle Dec. 3rd and I am due for ovulation Dec. 15th. This is 2nd month ttc. Last month my cut off was 4-5 days cut off with one shot bd with a finger of aci jel inserted 2 hrs prior. Ended with bfn....The vitamins my husband has been taking is Lic Root, Acidohilus, Cranberry pills, vit. c and baby asprin every other day for the past 4/5 months. He also has been drinking about half a gallon of crystal light a day. I have been taking cranberry pills, vit c, folic acid and Benadryl nightly. I also drink crystal light. I also drink about 1 cup of coffee daily with 2 packets of equal. We eat chicken and ground turkey almost daily. Low on the red meat. I have been trying to keep track of PH...mine is usually low 4-4.5 and husband is around 8. Do you have any advice. I am 31 and husband is 29 and we have an 8 year old boy and really just want to complete our family with a baby girl :)[/

[jillhardie]

Hi again Atomic.
Month three of trying has turned up negative again. Getting a little disappointed and hoping it won't take too much longer!
Do you have any recommendations to help me get pregnant sooner without compromising the sway too much?
I have been nursing my two year old and I was worried that it might be part of the reason I'm not getting pregnant. I am getting my period and ovulating though (it is a little irregular- some months longer, some shorter). My two year old nurses once in the afternoon, then once at night to go to sleep but around midnight we bed share and he nurses off and on as needed. Do you think this is the reason?

I will likely make a doctor appointment soon to see if I can get Clomid. Will that help get me pregnant as well as sway for a girl?

Thanks for your help!

[atomic sagebrush]

I have been reading a lot of the sway pink forums over the past couple months. I finally made an account. I wanted to know if I could have some assistance in a last minute sway. I have been tracking my Ovulation. I have a 26 day cycle for the most part. I just started my cycle Dec. 3rd and I am due for ovulation Dec. 15th. This is 2nd month ttc. Last month my cut off was 4-5 days cut off with one shot bd with a finger of aci jel inserted 2 hrs prior. Ended with bfn....The vitamins my husband has been taking is Lic Root, Acidohilus, Cranberry pills, vit. c and baby asprin every other day for the past 4/5 months. He also has been drinking about half a gallon of crystal light a day. I have been taking cranberry pills, vit c, folic acid and Benadryl nightly. I also drink crystal light. I also drink about 1 cup of coffee daily with 2 packets of equal. We eat chicken and ground turkey almost daily. Low on the red meat. I have been trying to keep track of PH...mine is usually low 4-4.5 and husband is around 8. Do you have any advice. I am 31 and husband is 29 and we have an 8 year old boy and really just want to complete our family with a baby girl :)[/

Well, this is a much stricter sway than I generally recommend so I'm going to suggest a few things to drop. You can drop one of them or all of them or however you want to do it, I just find it very unlikely that you are going to fall pregnant easily doing all that stuff and much of it doesn't work anyway.

4-5 day cutoff is very very low odds of conception. Most of us have given up timing all together since it's been totally debunked http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html but it's fine if you feel like you need to use it, just be sure that you are doing no more than a 2-3 day cutoff. And keep one attempt as long as you can. One attempt actually does work for reasons we don't know. So resist the temptation to keep the long cutoff but add attempts!

The acijel probably doesn't work and does cut odds of conception but nowhere near as much as that long cutoff. Fine to kee p that in the mix another couple months.

Benadryl has not been effective for us and has cut odds of conception but again, nothing like a 4-5 day cutoff does. My thinking would be for you to try ditching the cutoff and keeping Acijel and Benadryl if you want them for another month or three.

No one should take both cranberry and baby aspirin. Not safe. I would have your hubby wean off of one or the other.

I can't recommend cran and Vit. C for you either but up to you

So you're not doing a diet, just skipping red meat?

After 6 months men need to give up licorice anyway. It hasn't worked for us, like seriously at all!! I am all but giving up on it so I would personally ditch that as well.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi again Atomic.
Month three of trying has turned up negative again. Getting a little disappointed and hoping it won't take too much longer!
Do you have any recommendations to help me get pregnant sooner without compromising the sway too much?
I have been nursing my two year old and I was worried that it might be part of the reason I'm not getting pregnant. I am getting my period and ovulating though (it is a little irregular- some months longer, some shorter). My two year old nurses once in the afternoon, then once at night to go to sleep but around midnight we bed share and he nurses off and on as needed. Do you think this is the reason?

I will likely make a doctor appointment soon to see if I can get Clomid. Will that help get me pregnant as well as sway for a girl?

Thanks for your help!

No, I don't think your nursing is the reason you have not conceived. Even if he's nursing a lot and co sleeping, if you're getting your period (even with a slightly irregular cycle) you should be able to fall pregnant. Do be aware that doctors will always seize upon this as the reason so if you do go in, I'd probably not mention that you're still nursing. But yes Clomid will both help you conceive and also boost odds of a girl.

Can you please give me a rundown of everything you did this last month and I can tell you what to tweak

[atomic sagebrush]

never mind, I posted in the wrong thread

[Prayingpinkgirl]

I was thinking doing 2 day cut off this month. Do you suggest rephresh over aci-jel? Do you have any last minute sway suggestions to add. Should I do zyrtec rather than Benadryl? Thank you!

[atomic sagebrush]

Our experience has been that RepHresh, Acijel, Zyrtec, and Benadryl aren't effective for swaying. You can use them if you want to but I don't think any of them really work and all do cut odds of conception. Totally at your discretion.

[jillhardie]

Thanks for the reassurance with the breastfeeding! I'd hate to cut him off cold turkey but I also really want to get pregnant. I've made an appointment for Dec. 19th so if I do get Clomid it will be for the next cycle. Is clomid what is most likely to be prescribed? I figured I should still tell the doctor I'm breastfeeding to make sure she doesnt prescribe something that I can't nurse with. Femara is a no go for breastfeeding, right? I will down play the frequency of it though.
My sway so far has been: drinking one coffee a day and cut out tea (never drank coffee before the sway), drinking a glass of wine most nights (rarely drank before), LE diet with higher end for calories. My protein has been mostly eggs or brown beans. Not skipping breakfast but eating dinner around 530pm and not eating breakfast until 730am. We did use a tiny amount of sylk because we needed something and both my boys were conceived with preseed so I was hestiant to use it now. I get exercise at work as I'm an educational assistant so I'm on my feet and walking all day. We did E4D this month and last month. Is the next step E4D plus additional attempt at positive ovulation test? I've lost a lot of weight that I didn't need to lose. I'm trying to maintain and not lose any more now as family has been commenting that I'm "too thin". I'm not taking any supplements other than folic acid.
I think that's it. Does it matter when we start the E4D? One month the test showed surge at day 9 another month was day 18.

Thanks again so much.

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally would take Femara while nursing a 2 year old. But here is a thread where the risks are talked about. They would probably give you Clomid anyway since (I think) you're in the US and that's what most docs will prescribe first.

All I can tell you is that I strongly suggest accidentally forgetting to mention that you are nursing because otherwise they'll simply take that as "the reason" and tell you to wean which you may or may not even want to do. Up to you of course.

NO more weight loss, instead of the Sylk try using just the barest minimum of Preseed. Very small amounts are neutral, it's larger amounts that may sway blue.

Yes, the next step is e4d plus one more attempt at pos OPK. Are you doing shallow release? J and D??

Start e4d the day after AF ends just because it is a good jumping off point.

Full fat dairy 1 serving every day, 4-6 eggs a week, and 1 serving salmon if you like it, red meat if you don't.

[PINKwish16]

Thanks atomic, is using a vape (those electric flavoured cigarette things) or nicotine patches ok for DH, when swaying pink, instead of smoking normal cigarettes? Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes but we don't have the same body of evidence that indicates that vaping and nicotine patch sway pink as we do with the cigarettes.

[Prayingpinkgirl]

Hi Attomic, so I was not successful in getting pregnant last month. More in likely bc I am not tracking ovulation correctly. My first day of my af was 12/29/17. It usually lasts 6 days. I have a 26 day cycle. I bough the advanced clear blue ovulation kit. My dh has been abstinent for about 11/12 days. I got my first blinking smiley today CD 12. For the past month I assumed I had a LP 14 but I am thinking it is 12. If I am going for that 1 attempt. What day should we BD? Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

BD at the first solid smiley.

You can't tell what your LP will be this month based on your previous cycles because your O day can move around quite a lot especialy when swaying.

Good news is 12 day LP is totally normal!

[Prayingpinkgirl]

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Sorry, first flashing smiley face was January 8th CD 11, January 9th CD12 (9 am) -still flashing smiley than CD12 (8pm)-Just smiling face and did wondfo and it was def. positive. We bd @ 11pm last night. Husband was abstinent for about 11/12 days. This is our 1 attempt. This morning did the wondfo and it was still very positive. Is that ok, what day do you think I will ovulate? Thank you so much!

[atomic sagebrush]

The OPK do not tell you anything about ovulation. They tell you about the surge of hormones that triggers ovulation. So you can have a short surge with an OPK that is only positive for a short time, and goes negative before you ever ovulate, or you can have a long surge with OPK that stays positive even past ovulation. The thing that matters is that you will usually ovulate an average of 36 hours after the first positive (not the darkest) whether the tests go negative or stay positive.

[jillhardie]

Hi Atomic,

Back with an update - we are holding our breaths at 9 weeks pregnant! Woo-hoo!
As it turns out, the last month that I declared we were not pregnant and went to seek out clomid, I was indeed pregnant already. Very strange and worrisome start to the pregnancy! What I thought was a lighter period was some heavier implantation bleeding. The doctor did some routine blood work which revealed low hcg. The following hcg was growing, low but not doubling. I didn't feel pregnant and so over the Christmas holidays we were waiting for a miscarriage. I thought for sure by the dating ultrasound I would be told that the pregnancy wasn't successful.
Low and behold we have a baby with a beating heart and all is well!
Thank you so much for your help through this and I will be back in a while to update on the status of the gender!

[atomic sagebrush]

oh that's great news jill! Huge congrats!

I had one of my pregnancies start off with bleeding that I thought was my period too, but ended up with a happy, healthy baby at the end of it. It really is possible, even though I know it seems so strange and nervewrackign!

[PINKwish16]

Any update jillhardie? Hope everything is ok x

[atomic sagebrush]

yes we'd love to know Jill!

[PINKwish16]

Hi atomic, I have been reading a lot of the links on the timing and frequency and I have been getting a bit confused. Please could you confirm/explain which is the best effort for swaying pink when it comes to frequent release or abstaining for hubby. I was reading about frequent release, everyday 7-10 days before the first attempt would be? But then how would the every four day attempts come into it, when do you suggest the first (and hopefully only) attempt be in a cycle? I’ve got so confused trying to work it out now I realise there would more preparation need on his behalf. Do some abstain to sway pink, is that better? Hellllp xxx

[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know which is best, abstain or FR, and neither one has gotten good results. Generally, people under 35 do abstain, those over 35 (or whose hubbies will not abstain) do FR.

The every 4 day method is usually reserved for after having tried with one attempt for a few months. The only people who start off with e4d are typically those in a hurry to get pregnant due to age or work obligations. Most people would start with either abstain or FR plus one attempt usually at positive OPK or at a cutoff.

We do not know what is better between any of these options. The only thing I'm truly sold on is the one attempt.

[PINKwish16]

Thank you, I will have to have a long think about the abstaining or FR then before we choose.

Any opinions on ladies with endometriosis, anything extra or different we would need to factor in? X

[atomic sagebrush]

I would not do the very high sugar/carb "crash and burn" style of LE Diet and instead do this version of LE Diet instead. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/1865-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-1-blood-sugar-issues.html?1865-Swaying-under-special-circumstances-Part-1-Blood-sugar-issues=

[atomic sagebrush]

And avoid ANY blood thinning supplements like cranberry, aspirin, saw palmetto, cinnamon, evening primrose oil.

[PINKwish16]

Thanks, do you think those things sway much anyway?
With the diet recommendation is that because more likely to feel blood sugar is too low otherwise ?x

[atomic sagebrush]

No, I don't think any of them sway at all and would be devastating for your endo. They cause excessive bleeding and people with endo who have taken them have ended up in a lot of pain.

No, it's because your estrogen levels may rise on the standard LE Diet and the alternate one is going to be much better for your overall health. We do not want to do anything to aggravate the endo.

[LTATK247191723]

Hi Atomic,

Back with an update - we are holding our breaths at 9 weeks pregnant! Woo-hoo!
As it turns out, the last month that I declared we were not pregnant and went to seek out clomid, I was indeed pregnant already. Very strange and worrisome start to the pregnancy! What I thought was a lighter period was some heavier implantation bleeding. The doctor did some routine blood work which revealed low hcg. The following hcg was growing, low but not doubling. I didn't feel pregnant and so over the Christmas holidays we were waiting for a miscarriage. I thought for sure by the dating ultrasound I would be told that the pregnancy wasn't successful.
Low and behold we have a baby with a beating heart and all is well!
Thank you so much for your help through this and I will be back in a while to update on the status of the gender!

Reallly holding on to see if your sway worked!! Let us know [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]


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[PINKwish16]

Me too jillhardie! Let us know xx

Atomic, I have been reading a lot of the info on the links provided through this thread (either answering mine or others questions)... It is so interesting and you do explain things very well. Just a question about the personality influences topic, I wondered about the ladies that would sway pink naturally with their personality/behaviour. Would you say (and this is absolutely in no way meant to offend anyone of course) that they are more often very laid back, quite carefree and less angry over things. And would ladies who feel down in he dumps a lot and kinda feel depressed about things sway pink too with less testosterone levels? Do you note from your own personal experience of having a girl you were in a different place personality wise when you conceived her? It’s all so interesting. Also in terms of the frequency did you conceive her with a one off bd rather than frequently trying?

Oh and one last question, haha, would endo sway pink in your opinion as it can hinder fertility or would you say blue because of hormone levels/imbalances? I am on birth control and only taking a break every three months for a bleed so should help with any endo, when we are ready to try I will do my best to catch that first egg. Just need to get it in my head it doesn’t matter if the one attempt is at a pos ov test, it’s the frequency and one attempt that’s important. I still feel scared deep down that boys are conceived when attempt is on ovulation, girls if your attempt is a few days before. But if you come off birth control how can you possibly know how long it may take for that first egg to be released? So much to think of!

Thanks! ...again xxx

[atomic sagebrush]

I have more about personality than anyone probably ever wanted to know here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/33517-maternal-dominance-hypothesis-priviledged-daughter-hypothesis.html

Yes I was in a very different place emotionally when I got my daughter and you can read about that here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-confirmed-girl-sway-results-details-listed-by-member/9388-atomics-stealth-sway-updated-july-20-a.html We also had one attempt which we had never conceived with before.

I believe endometriosis sways blue (if it sways, which has never been proven) due to estrogen levels. There are many ways to think of "lower fertility" and endometriosis is not the kind of lower fertility we are referring to when we think about what sways. Less sperm, drier EWCM, may sway pink but things that are actual physical barriers to pregnancy occurring may not be.

You can't know how long it will be till the egg is released. That's why we have to do the OPK tests when attempting that method. But positive OPK is NOT on ovulation anyway. It is still a slight cutoff if that is important to you.

FWIW when I got my daughter it was late at night on O-1...it was technically 1 am on O Day! I got 3 of my boys with cutoffs and the only difference was that she was the only one who I had the one attempt.

[Liliana]

Hi I just got into this forrum, swaying pink, is it any link to where you explain the “one attempt”? Sorry I don’t understand some of the therms used like TTC , etc..

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Liliana!

The link to our Complete Index which has tons of info is here (you don't need to read all of it though! please don't get overwhelmed!) https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html

The abbreviations are here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/2069-abbreviation-translation.html?2069-Abbreviation-Translation=

I really do need to do FAQ on one attempt. All it means is having one unprotected attempt in your fertile window (O-3 through O Day, with O-2 and O-1 being best chance of conception; O means ovulation, O-means that many days before ovulation, O day is the day of ovulation). For reasons we do not understand, conceiving with just one attempt has been very pink friendly for us.

I have some additional info (may be more in depth than you're looking for, if it's confusing please just ASK, that's what I'm here for, I answer all questions posted!)https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/2728-abstain-frequent-release-cutoff-o-12-one-attempt.html?2728-abstaining-frequent-release-and-mixing-cutoff-with-O-12= and here (this is very very involved and may be more info than you need for now): How many attempts should I do and WHEN?? For pink and blue. (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/9736-how-many-attempts-should-i-do-when-pink-blue.html)

[pinkfairydust]

Yes jillhardie - any update for us? Hope alls progressing well cc

[Liliana]

Thank you! I had a boy last year and we tried the following : hot showers before, misionary position, 0-5 and 0-6 days , vinegar bath.. all together and we got the oposite gender, a wonderful baby boy! Still dreaming with a little sister. Thx I will read and get the personalised plan as well end of the year, as we want to start trying around march. Ps: I am still breastfeeding and will be breastfeeding by march, This may be a plus in having a girl? I live in Spain and I see here they sell Clomid online, do you think clomid it increases posibility of having twins?

[atomic sagebrush]

That is what most of us have done as well - gotten opposites doing everything the old school way with timing and vinegar, etc. We are finding that doing just the things that really work, is getting us our desired genders more often and with much faster times to conception. :)

I do think breastfeeding sways pink. It's not a guarantee but I do believe that it helps a bit.

Clomid does up chances of conceiving twins. Femara/letrozole may be slightly better for not causing twins than Clomid is, if you can get that instead.

[Liliana]

How long before starting I should get the personalised plan? Also from what I see here the baby aspirin together with the cranberries give a good result ? Cranberries you mean directly eating the fruits or ?
Also I found on internet a method called Luz that is bases on the moon, do you know anything about that ?
Thx

[Liliana]

Hi , is Femara ok while breastfeeding or would need to stop breastfeeding first?
Thx

[atomic sagebrush]

How long before starting I should get the personalised plan? Also from what I see here the baby aspirin together with the cranberries give a good result ? Cranberries you mean directly eating the fruits or ?
Also I found on internet a method called Luz that is bases on the moon, do you know anything about that ?
Thx

Most people like to have the plan 3 months before they TTC. This gives you 3 months of lead time with me as your sway coach before starting TTC, and then 3 months while TTC. But it's totally up to you - many people get it longer in advance. My preference is NOT getting it at the last minute because it is more stressful and you won't have as long on diet that way, but I do quite a few last minute plans anyway! :)

PLEASE DO NOT take cranberry and aspirin together. That is SUPER DANGEROUS and caused very serious side effects. The people who did that came from a different site years ago that advocates lots of very dangerous things for swaying. Since neither cranberry or aspirin has worked in our results it is highly unlikely that both together do anything any better and I suspect it's a quirk of the statistics. With sample sizes of 10 people, one lucky sway makes something that is equal to the overall success rate of the site (70%) look like it works (80%) but it is really doing nothing at all.

Since you are breastfeeding you must not take either cranberry or aspirin. Neither one has worked, and they are too dangerous to take when breastfeeding. The cranberries were cranberry supplements but again, we've seen tons of people try this and it doesn't work. Breastfeeding actually DOES sway pink so please don't drop breastfeeding (if you are still enjoying it) in favor of taking cranberry or aspirin!!

I don't believe in the moon for swaying. I do have an essay on it here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/1421-lunaception.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi , is Femara ok while breastfeeding or would need to stop breastfeeding first?
Thx

Answer - it depends on what you're comfortable with.

Femara has not been studied for those TTC (in which you take a low dose for only 5 days). It started off as a cancer drug and they take higher doses for long periods of time and they are not supposed to be breastfeeding while doing that (but even that is really not studied). So it's one of those things where they say "don't do this" but it's not at all proven or even studied! I would feel perfectly fine taking it when nursing but I can completely understand not wanting to do that, and I'd absolutely wait till my nursing child was at minimum one year old and even more like 18-24 months to do so.

[PINKwish16]

After reading the success rate page. I was interested in the extras like raspberry leaf tea, peppermint, cinnamon and what’s left side sleeping about? Lol. Also does birth control sway pink more than clomid does?

Ok so I think the least stressful thing for me to do would be when I come off the birth control, I’ll obviously have a bleed straight away, but when I get to day 6 I’ll ask DH to abstain. (I’m concerned about me taking ages to ovulate so will him going over 14days be a massive deal? He’ll be 34. Hopefully the pos opk will land just after 11days or so of abstinence if I ask him to start day 6?) anyway then I’ll test for ovulation and soon as I get a positive we will have the one attempt. I keep sweating about a cut off but there’s no way to guess a 2 day cut off is there unless you are the same every month. So I need to let go of that and go with a positive opk don’t i?

Other thing is exercise, I would swim probably 3/4times a week for about half hour. How important is exercise type and amount of time in this equation? X

[Linni]

Hi there!

From what I‘ve learned abstain doesn’t really work, but if you must: Everything after 7 days is really unnecessary and will only cut your chances of conception a lot and will make it very unlikely to get pregnant.

Atomic’s advice is to „do business as usual“, but with protection (condom) or an outside release (handjob, whatsoever...) either every day or twice a week or what your favorite pattern is, and then have one attempt unprotected at pos opk.

If you get a positive opk this doesn’t mean you will ovulate immediately, but within 24-36, sometimes even 48 hours. So most of the time it’s 1-2 days before O, and this means you will automatically have a little cut-off, kwim? I heared that it’s usually 12 hours after the LH peak, this means when the test start to fade then it’s 12 hours. But not after the first LH surge, which you will detect with a first pos opk. So there is time! :)

Since you come directly from bc pill it is very likely that you won’t O on CD14 as in a textbook cycle. You will do better if you start doing 1 opk a day (every time the same daytime, after lunch is best), and once it starts to get darker maybe do 2 a day to detect the surge (pos opk).

That would be my advice :)

I‘m also ttc pink! Good luck to you!!



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[PINKwish16]

Thanks Linni,

Yeh I would never have ovulated day 14 anyway I used to have long cycles and would ovulate between day 16 and 24. Would be random every month and unfortunately made it very obsessive having to check all the time with kits.
I will probably test from day 10/11 daily and yes testing twice a day can help so don’t lose hours once you catch your surge. It’s the best I can do isnt it really as I’ll never be able to guess which day will be the day before the pos opk.

Oh really, I read so much and got the impression abstaining and frequency was better methods than regular or normal release times as regular and normal releasing would mean better sperm numbers. And swaying pink you want less. Oh now I’m confused! Obviously the not having unprotected sex makes sense because we want one attempt, but I’m now thrown as thought I wanted lower sperm numbers.

I conceived my second son from one attempt at pos ov test, BUT I think it must’ve been two attempts as we did BD again 48hours later but I still had a positive ov test, in total I had a positive opk for 4 days, but assumed at the time I must’ve ovulated 12-36 hours after detecting it and for some reason the surge was still there. My husband had been away with work so we hadn’t had any other unprotected sex that cycle. But I don’t know if he had been ‘dealing with himself’ lol. Hope all of that made sense. But anyway I worry doing similar to what I did then as it got me a boy, even though I know I didn’t do anything else properly to sway pink, like diet and losing weight lol....and I am a Jeanie/Martha! Which probably was a huge contributor.

(Sigh!) I just feel so nervous every time I think about all this. Like it’s just not going to happen for me, and I’ll either stress out and ruin it for myself, or I’ll unknowingly do something that’ll lower my chances of pink. Like doing the wrong type and amount of exercise. I worry living with males would make my body sway towards conceiving another. And on top of all that my stomach drops at the thought of getting pregnant and finding out it’s another boy after all the efforts. Even tho it’s such a lucky gift to be blessed with a healthy baby. Boy or girl.

I just want to get it right this time. I’m happy to not do sups, antihistamines and things like that. They don’t seem to have good sway reviews on here. (Although I was interested in the things I mentioned in my last post, just out of interest) xx

[Liliana]

Hi girls! What are the best ovulation tests to use? How do you know when you are 2 -3 days before ovulation as my Cycles are not regular at all.
Also which one is better Clomid or Femara for pink sway? I am a little afraid of having twins... thank you!

[Linni]

Thanks Linni,

Yeh I would never have ovulated day 14 anyway I used to have long cycles and would ovulate between day 16 and 24. Would be random every month and unfortunately made it very obsessive having to check all the time with kits.
I will probably test from day 10/11 daily and yes testing twice a day can help so don’t lose hours once you catch your surge. It’s the best I can do isnt it really as I’ll never be able to guess which day will be the day before the pos opk.

Oh really, I read so much and got the impression abstaining and frequency was better methods than regular or normal release times as regular and normal releasing would mean better sperm numbers. And swaying pink you want less. Oh now I’m confused! Obviously the not having unprotected sex makes sense because we want one attempt, but I’m now thrown as thought I wanted lower sperm numbers.

I conceived my second son from one attempt at pos ov test, BUT I think it must’ve been two attempts as we did BD again 48hours later but I still had a positive ov test, in total I had a positive opk for 4 days, but assumed at the time I must’ve ovulated 12-36 hours after detecting it and for some reason the surge was still there. My husband had been away with work so we hadn’t had any other unprotected sex that cycle. But I don’t know if he had been ‘dealing with himself’ lol. Hope all of that made sense. But anyway I worry doing similar to what I did then as it got me a boy, even though I know I didn’t do anything else properly to sway pink, like diet and losing weight lol....and I am a Jeanie/Martha! Which probably was a huge contributor.

(Sigh!) I just feel so nervous every time I think about all this. Like it’s just not going to happen for me, and I’ll either stress out and ruin it for myself, or I’ll unknowingly do something that’ll lower my chances of pink. Like doing the wrong type and amount of exercise. I worry living with males would make my body sway towards conceiving another. And on top of all that my stomach drops at the thought of getting pregnant and finding out it’s another boy after all the efforts. Even tho it’s such a lucky gift to be blessed with a healthy baby. Boy or girl.

I just want to get it right this time. I’m happy to not do sups, antihistamines and things like that. They don’t seem to have good sway reviews on here. (Although I was interested in the things I mentioned in my last post, just out of interest) xx

I know what you mean with being obsessed with the thought of a boy after this stressful sway, and that’s the reason why I totally losened it up.
I had to anyway, because on a 2000 cal diet I would have lost too many weight. So I aim for 2220-2400 and am totally fine with that.
Also if I get over the limits..there were days where I was desperate over those stupid numbers - but that’s so silly!! And I think this sways boy skyrocket :) Maybe even more than a diet could ever sway over. So I do what I can, and considering the fact that it will take a few months to get a BFP I have to find a way of living that fits into my daily life.
I have a 4 yo and a 1.5 yo so I can’t be miserable, tired from sports and hungry all day!!

I walk with the stroller as often and as long as I can, which is anywhere from 45 min to 2 hours a day.

If I were you I wouldn’t worry too much. You‘re doing fine, all that matters is that you are eating/living in a more girl way than you were as you got your boys!


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[Linni]

Hi girls! What are the best ovulation tests to use? How do you know when you are 2 -3 days before ovulation as my Cycles are not regular at all.
Also which one is better Clomid or Femara for pink sway? I am a little afraid of having twins... thank you!

I think you may want to open a new thread so that Atomic and everyone else can see this!

I live in Europe so I can’t answer your question about the opk brand...
Don’t know about Clomid or Femara either!



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[Liliana]

Ok I will! I live in Spain !! Thx

[Linni]

Ok I will! I live in Spain !! Thx

I bought it online anyway :D
Onestep are very reliable! I buy it in bunk (50 pieces), approx. 15€!!


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[PINKwish16]

Hi there!

From what I‘ve learned abstain doesn’t really work, but if you must: Everything after 7 days is really unnecessary and will only cut your chances of conception a lot and will make it very unlikely to get pregnant.

Atomic’s advice is to „do business as usual“, but with protection (condom) or an outside release (handjob, whatsoever...) either every day or twice a week or what your favorite pattern is, and then have one attempt unprotected at pos opk.

If you get a positive opk this doesn’t mean you will ovulate immediately, but within 24-36, sometimes even 48 hours. So most of the time it’s 1-2 days before O, and this means you will automatically have a little cut-off, kwim? I heared that it’s usually 12 hours after the LH peak, this means when the test start to fade then it’s 12 hours. But not after the first LH surge, which you will detect with a first pos opk. So there is time! :)

Since you come directly from bc pill it is very likely that you won’t O on CD14 as in a textbook cycle. You will do better if you start doing 1 opk a day (every time the same daytime, after lunch is best), and once it starts to get darker maybe do 2 a day to detect the surge (pos opk).

That would be my advice :)

I‘m also ttc pink! Good luck to you!!



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Hi atomic. Are you able to confirm whether abstaining is a better shot than normal realease patterns (obviously no unprotected sex until the one attempt). Lini kindly wrote Back to me but I’m confused given the essay I have read. Xx

[PINKwish16]

After reading the success rate page. I was interested in the extras like raspberry leaf tea, peppermint, cinnamon and what’s left side sleeping about? Lol. Also does birth control sway pink more than clomid does?

Ok so I think the least stressful thing for me to do would be when I come off the birth control, I’ll obviously have a bleed straight away, but when I get to day 6 I’ll ask DH to abstain. (I’m concerned about me taking ages to ovulate so will him going over 14days be a massive deal? He’ll be 34. Hopefully the pos opk will land just after 11days or so of abstinence if I ask him to start day 6?) anyway then I’ll test for ovulation and soon as I get a positive we will have the one attempt. I keep sweating about a cut off but there’s no way to guess a 2 day cut off is there unless you are the same every month. So I need to let go of that and go with a positive opk don’t i?

Other thing is exercise, I would swim probably 3/4times a week for about half hour. How important is exercise type and amount of time in this equation? X


Hi atomic. This is what I had posted. Also when it comes to custom sways how much are they and do you provide instructions on what food to eat. I feel like I’m constantly reading packets. Also what are your success rates with the custom sways? I’m quite interested in it now as I seem to just constantly have new questions! Lol

[atomic sagebrush]

After reading the success rate page. I was interested in the extras like raspberry leaf tea, peppermint, cinnamon and what’s left side sleeping about? Lol. Also does birth control sway pink more than clomid does?

Ok so I think the least stressful thing for me to do would be when I come off the birth control, I’ll obviously have a bleed straight away, but when I get to day 6 I’ll ask DH to abstain. (I’m concerned about me taking ages to ovulate so will him going over 14days be a massive deal? He’ll be 34. Hopefully the pos opk will land just after 11days or so of abstinence if I ask him to start day 6?) anyway then I’ll test for ovulation and soon as I get a positive we will have the one attempt. I keep sweating about a cut off but there’s no way to guess a 2 day cut off is there unless you are the same every month. So I need to let go of that and go with a positive opk don’t i?

Other thing is exercise, I would swim probably 3/4times a week for about half hour. How important is exercise type and amount of time in this equation? X

Red rasp. leaf tea is a mistake in the statistics that I have tried and tried to get fixed for ages and it has not been fixed. IT DOES NOT SWAY PINK, it sways blue according to every known theory of swaying, no one ever used it for pink, and that number has come out of thin air and is not legit.

Peppermint tea has not worked either, we did a statistical regression done on it and found it did nothing to sway (same number of people got girls with and without it), also really cut odds of conception and messes up people's cycles. It's fine if you want to use it but I don't even recommend it any more since we have barely used any herbs the past year and our results are higher than ever.

Cinnamon is ONLY for people with moderate to severe PCOS or who have more than 30-50 lbs to lose. (I have had less than 2 dozen people use it.) I do not recommned it for anyone who is not in these categories.

Left side sleeping is one of those ideas that someone was curious about and they were helping me so I didn't want to forbid them to put it in the statistics. I think it's nonsense, I have never believed in it, do not recommend it, no scientific data supports it. Up to you if you want to try.

Abstain has really not worked well at all. It's much lower than the overall success rate of the site and has been that low since the very beginning (even before we knew about the one attempt). It's fine if you want to try it (and you have a sound plan, if it gets to like 10 days I'd have him clean the pipes once and then resume abtain) but it doesn't seem to help and will really cut odds of conception.

Cut offs really, really don't work. I know it's hard to believe but the idea has been totally debunked (we even know the mistake Dr. Shettles made and you can read about that here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html Plus you're absolutely right, coming off BCP is impossible to do with a cutoff.

Clomid sways more than BCP.

Exercise has gotten best results with 60 minutes consecutively. Can you walk for another half hour after swimming?

[atomic sagebrush]

Unfortunately neither abstain nor daily release has seemed to work and they both cut odds of conception. Since one attempt HAS worked, and abstain/FR have not worked, it makes sense to me to ditch abstain/FR and keep one attempt. But most people do like to start out doing everything and then just drop things over time. Just be sure you drop the things that don't work FIRST before adding attempts.

Many (most!) times what you did in the past is meaningless. You can get a boy in SPITE of what you did in the past, not because of it, and then trying to skip things that may have swayed pink for you then is just silly because you'll only be worse off than you were in the past! Example - if you were 80% likely to conceive a boy, but were doing something that swayed pink 20% (which is HUGE) you would have ended up 60% likely to have a boy - but you would still want to do that thing that got you 20% pink sway, you see?? You wouldn't want to give up things that would sway pink just because they didn't work out the last time...you want as many pink friendly things as you can do! So PLEASE keep doing the one attempt, that has been gold for us!

RE living with males...I had nothing but boys for 21 years...4 of them, even our cat was a boy! And I still got a girl even in a house full of testosterone! It does not mean you can't have a girl, please don't worry about things like that!

:agree: yep the herbs, jellies, and antihistamines have not worked. Fine to skip!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi atomic. This is what I had posted. Also when it comes to custom sways how much are they and do you provide instructions on what food to eat. I feel like I’m constantly reading packets. Also what are your success rates with the custom sways? I’m quite interested in it now as I seem to just constantly have new questions! Lol

Hey, I need more than a day or two to get through the questions - I will answer all questions eventually but in the free forums please give me 5-7 days to reply (it will usually be sooner!)

I think it is best to use the overall success rate of the site which is a much larger sample size than the custom sway plans and thus is much more reliable. It's about 69% right now and this is dating back to 2010 and is about 500 people. https://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/51473-complete-pink-swaying-statistics-spreadsheet-info-links-enter-your-sway.html

My success rates with custom sways (and please keep in mind that custom swayers are actually oftentimes more complicated than normal sways, and many of the people cannot do sway tactics due to health issues or fertility problems) is at present 67% with about 150 people responding.

The price on custom sways varies depending on what you get - the personalized plans are $79 USD but you can get add ons if you want to. I help you with your diet as your coach (6 months coaching comes with the plan) and you can get the diet plan as well if you want to...totally up to you, whatever you think would help you the most.

[atomic sagebrush]

I know what you mean with being obsessed with the thought of a boy after this stressful sway, and that’s the reason why I totally losened it up.
I had to anyway, because on a 2000 cal diet I would have lost too many weight. So I aim for 2220-2400 and am totally fine with that.
Also if I get over the limits..there were days where I was desperate over those stupid numbers - but that’s so silly!! And I think this sways boy skyrocket :) Maybe even more than a diet could ever sway over. So I do what I can, and considering the fact that it will take a few months to get a BFP I have to find a way of living that fits into my daily life.
I have a 4 yo and a 1.5 yo so I can’t be miserable, tired from sports and hungry all day!!

I walk with the stroller as often and as long as I can, which is anywhere from 45 min to 2 hours a day.

If I were you I wouldn’t worry too much. You‘re doing fine, all that matters is that you are eating/living in a more girl way than you were as you got your boys!


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Guys, please don't worry about the limits. I HAD TO make up a number because I had people starving themselves when I didn't have the limits of the diet. But the only thing that matters is that you are eating more girl-friendly than when you got your boy(s). There have never been any studies done that prove a certain calorie range sways pink, it is all based on the lowest normal pre-pregnancy diet for the average woman but some of us need more than that. Do not eat LESS than the limits, but it is fine to eat more if you need to to keep weight on provided it is still less than you've been eating recently,and less than when you got your boys if possible.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi girls! What are the best ovulation tests to use? How do you know when you are 2 -3 days before ovulation as my Cycles are not regular at all.
Also which one is better Clomid or Femara for pink sway? I am a little afraid of having twins... thank you!

Ovulation tests vary by country and I can't recommend particuar brands. Many have used Wondfo or Babi brands but those are not available everywhere.

You can't tell when you are 2-3 days before ovulation even IF your cycle is regular because your O day can move (and often does when swaying.) You can get a fertility monitor and try to have attempt at the second "high" reading instead of waiting until "peak" and this will generally be 2-3 days before O. But it is possible to have more than 2 high readings OR to go straight to peak without any high readings and then you will not be able to use that method in that case, plus it's very stressful at the last minute when it happens!!

FEmara may be a bit better than Clomid and may have slightly lower chance of twinning. But both are good.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would really, really appreciate everyone starting new threads for these type of questions. it's much easier for me than trying to keep track of several different people in one thread. :) Hard for me to know who I'm even answering and who had which question (and even harder for those reading my replies)

[PINKwish16]

Thank you so much atomic for answering all those questions!! Apologies for it getting so confusing, I will start a new thread for any new questions I have, unless it’s on an existing thread of the same subject then. I think it was because there are a lot of links to essays on this thread, but to come back here and ask new questions isn’t the best thing to do really, so sorry! Xx

Also yes I appreciate you need time to answer sorry if I seemed pushy :oops:
Xx

[atomic sagebrush]

No not at all, no need to apologize, it's just that if things are easier for me, I figure I may as well ask you guys to do them that way since it's probably all the same to you anyway. :)