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Dreamer55
August 18th, 2017, 07:33 PM
As the title asks really do you have to cut out dairy to sway blue? i have read that this is meant to be the case quite a lot. Is dairy acidic? i know for blue alkaline is meant to be better. I only have milk in tea and cereal. I have cut out cheese and yogurt xx
ksmom
August 18th, 2017, 08:46 PM
Alkalinity and acidity don't sway. That's an old school tactic. Actually your body has to remain at a certain pH (around 7.4) otherwise it could be deadly. Dairy is actually good for swaying blue. I ate tons of it when I conceived my two oldest boys and I know it's recommended to have full fat dairy for blue swayers.
MiaMelb
August 18th, 2017, 09:28 PM
Agreed, the long term swayers here have seen so many pH opposites most no longer bother with any of the acidic/alkaline stuff. Blue swayers here follow the high nutrient HE diet of which full fat dairy (milk, cheese and yoghurt) is encouraged.
Dreamer55
August 19th, 2017, 02:52 AM
Alkalinity and acidity don't sway. That's an old school tactic. Actually your body has to remain at a certain pH (around 7.4) otherwise it could be deadly. Dairy is actually good for swaying blue. I ate tons of it when I conceived my two oldest boys and I know it's recommended to have full fat dairy for blue swayers.
I feel so confused now :( I have read that so many people said avoiding dairy helped there sway. So hard to know what to do and what not to do. Apart from this I have tried to focus on nutrition. I am a vegetarian and try and have as much protein as poss.. how many grams of protein do we need per meal? Xx
Dreamer55
August 19th, 2017, 02:58 AM
Agreed, the long term swayers here have seen so many pH opposites most no longer bother with any of the acidic/alkaline stuff. Blue swayers here follow the high nutrient HE diet of which full fat dairy (milk, cheese and yoghurt) is encouraged.
Sorry what do you mean by HE diet? So are we meant to have the dairy but limit how much at all? Xx
MiaMelb
August 19th, 2017, 05:12 AM
Sorry what do you mean by HE diet? So are we meant to have the dairy but limit how much at all? Xx
It can be very confusing all this sway stuff, especially as every site claims to know exactly how it all works but many are based on old debunked 'science' that's incorrect or they're simply trying to sell you something. If you are researching from multiple sites I'm not surprised the info is contradictory.
Many women here have been around swaying for 5-10 years and have moved on from many of the old school sway tactics such as timing, pH and minerals that don't work and have often resulted in opposites or made conceiving difficult.
The High Everything diet followed by blue swayers here is based on a high nutrient diet to improve maternal condition and includes a few other strategies aimed at increasing a couple's fertility. If you're interested in swaying the Gender Dreaming way the complete index written/collated by Atomic is a good place to start
The COMPLETE Index!!! (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html)
GL
atomic sagebrush
August 19th, 2017, 01:20 PM
That is a belief held by some but we have not found that to be the case. The best study ever done on maternal diet and gender conceived found that moms with the highest intake of calcium actually had the most BOYS, not girls. When we tracked our results in the first year of the site, the blue swayers who did the low calcium, high sodium diets had by far more girl opposites than the people who did the higher calcium High Everything type diet.
I know it feels confusing at first but most of us on here got opposites doing things the "old school" sway diet way and we were trying to find more reliable ways. So when we see people headed down the road of doing things that never worked for us in the first place we want to help you avoid it. I got 4 boys drinking tons of dairy, my last two I was drinking tons of dairy and taking calcium supplements too, and then I gave it all up to get my girl. My husband and I barely had any dairy, I didn't take supplements, etc. Only then did I get a girl!!
The acid-alkaline diets do not work. I have a full explanation here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html
The case against calcium is here: (this is a 3 part essay, read all three, the third one especially has lots of info in it) the calcium conundrum - CONTROVERSIAL (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html)
atomic sagebrush
August 19th, 2017, 01:21 PM
Sorry what do you mean by HE diet? So are we meant to have the dairy but limit how much at all? Xx
HIGH EVERYTHING DIET NUTSHELL VERSION (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html)
atomic sagebrush
August 19th, 2017, 01:22 PM
I feel so confused now :( I have read that so many people said avoiding dairy helped there sway. So hard to know what to do and what not to do. Apart from this I have tried to focus on nutrition. I am a vegetarian and try and have as much protein as poss.. how many grams of protein do we need per meal? Xx
That's because they heard it was supposed to help, so they look back at their diets and think that it did help. But most girl moms tend to be light eaters overall so they actually weren't eating that much of anything, dairy or whatever.
It is your diet as a whole that matters, not one or two magic foods or nutrients. Women who eat the most nutrient dense foods overall, have the most boys.
Veggiemom
August 19th, 2017, 08:46 PM
I think milk is great for swaying blue and I had 2 failed girl sways where I was guzzling milk. If you like it I would drink it.
atomic sagebrush
August 20th, 2017, 10:58 AM
I think milk is great for swaying blue and I had 2 failed girl sways where I was guzzling milk. If you like it I would drink it.
:agree: :agree: :agree: true for so many of us!
Throwaway_panther
August 21st, 2017, 10:38 AM
I barely touched anything but a splash of almond milk in coffee when I conceived my DD. I just read another study on more calcium means more boys, which I've been meaning to track back down so I can share it!
atomic sagebrush
August 21st, 2017, 11:01 AM
Yes please do - many times they simply repackage the same study, would be great to have another. :)
Dreamer55
August 21st, 2017, 04:16 PM
I barely touched anything but a splash of almond milk in coffee when I conceived my DD. I just read another study on more calcium means more boys, which I've been meaning to track back down so I can share it!
Please share that would be great xx
Dreamer55
August 21st, 2017, 04:20 PM
Atomic over the last 6 months I have limited my dairy to milk in cereal and in my tea with the odd treat like pizza in terms of cheese. How long will it take me to get my calcium to the right level to help sway blue? Is it ok then to have cheese and yogurt? Also what about things like sugary foods like biscuits and chocolate are they bad for a boy sway? I read sugar makes the ph acidic so again I haven't really had much sugary foods for the past few months. Please advise on this also xx
Dreamer55
August 21st, 2017, 04:23 PM
Atomic also can you please provide more information on how the custom swaying plan works? I am a vegetarian so if I decided to go with the plan would you be able to provide meal ideas for each meal? What things are covered on the custom swaying plan? Xx
MiaMelb
August 21st, 2017, 05:20 PM
Atomic over the last 6 months I have limited my dairy to milk in cereal and in my tea with the odd treat like pizza in terms of cheese. How long will it take me to get my calcium to the right level to help sway blue? Is it ok then to have cheese and yogurt? Also what about things like sugary foods like biscuits and chocolate are they bad for a boy sway? I read sugar makes the ph acidic so again I haven't really had much sugary foods for the past few months. Please advise on this also xx
Not sure on how long it will take to get your levels back up but yes start eating full fat dairy like yoghurt and cheese. Blue swayers also take a good multivitamin which will help too.
The pH stuff doesn't work and if you can let it go it will make your sway much simpler. The HE diet is about nutrient dense foods so just try and make smart choices rather than avoiding particular foods. As a treat most blue swayers would go with some dark chocolate.
atomic sagebrush
August 23rd, 2017, 06:42 PM
I'm sorry I just don't have the data to be able to answer that.
I got all 4 of my boys eating cheese and yogurt in massive quantities. I mean daily I would eat 4 oz cheese and 1-2 servings of yogurt. I gave all that up and only then conceived a girl.
6 weeks on HE Diet has gotten good results though so I think that is enough time.
Sugar is not bad for a boy sway, the "acid alkaline" diets do not work and I ate sugar all the time when i got my boys. It makes no difference to your sway that you gave it up, though, as long as eating tons of nutrients.
Custom Sways are everything but diet and then I help you day to day with diet stuff in the Coaching Forum that comes with the sway plan. I don't do meal ideas for each meal but I do have a 21 day diet book that is available to purchase as an add on to the Custom Plans. :)
Dreamer55
August 28th, 2017, 03:28 AM
I'm sorry I just don't have the data to be able to answer that.
I got all 4 of my boys eating cheese and yogurt in massive quantities. I mean daily I would eat 4 oz cheese and 1-2 servings of yogurt. I gave all that up and only then conceived a girl.
6 weeks on HE Diet has gotten good results though so I think that is enough time.
Sugar is not bad for a boy sway, the "acid alkaline" diets do not work and I ate sugar all the time when i got my boys. It makes no difference to your sway that you gave it up, though, as long as eating tons of nutrients.
Custom Sways are everything but diet and then I help you day to day with diet stuff in the Coaching Forum that comes with the sway plan. I don't do meal ideas for each meal but I do have a 21 day diet book that is available to purchase as an add on to the Custom Plans. :)
Thanks for your reply Atomic. I am a vegetarian can you please advise on good sources of protein? I feel confused with it all. Quinoa is good isn't it? Tofu I used to have but from what I read it can raise estrogen? So I stopped thinking testosterone is means to be better.. should I have carried on with it? have quite a lot of quorn which is a protein substitute for Vegys, I try have nuts, eggs, beans, lentils, yogurt now also. I dont know how much of these foods i should have in a day? Any other things you could suggest.. should I take protein powder?
Also I feel confused I know you said PH doesn't work.. on the gender dreaming website if you go go the bit where you may purchase a plan it has a section about PH And the affect of this? I haven't read what it says though as haven't purchased a plan I didn't know if it implied that ph can affect? Also I know it says they do meal plans do you know if they do for vegys? Xx
Throwaway_panther
August 28th, 2017, 08:44 AM
Thanks for your reply Atomic. I am a vegetarian can you please advise on good sources of protein? I feel confused with it all. Quinoa is good isn't it? Tofu I used to have but from what I read it can raise estrogen? So I stopped thinking testosterone is means to be better.. should I have carried on with it? have quite a lot of quorn which is a protein substitute for Vegys, I try have nuts, eggs, beans, lentils, yogurt now also. I dont know how much of these foods i should have in a day? Any other things you could suggest.. should I take protein powder?
Also I feel confused I know you said PH doesn't work.. on the gender dreaming website if you go go the bit where you may purchase a plan it has a section about PH And the affect of this? I haven't read what it says though as haven't purchased a plan I didn't know if it implied that ph can affect? Also I know it says they do meal plans do you know if they do for vegys? Xx
Quinoa is actually the only non-meat source that is a complete protein! So definitely a great protein source, especially for blue.
Tofu occasionally I believe is fine. Soy products are not all equal based on fermentation -- tofu is the better of the options I believe.
Are you averse to things like brewers yeast? There is protein and BCAAs you'd normally find in meat in there.
Atomic isn't a big fan of protein powders, but if you're not vegan, there are whey powders out there that are pure whey without the added stuff that could sway pinker. Quest makes a good unflavored whey protein out there, and there are egg based protein powders too.
Personally, I'd avoid the Quorn and processed meat alternatives. Those things are often full of soy and other fillers that aren't the healthiest.
anga236
August 28th, 2017, 08:39 PM
As the title asks really do you have to cut out dairy to sway blue? i have read that this is meant to be the case quite a lot. Is dairy acidic? i know for blue alkaline is meant to be better. I only have milk in tea and cereal. I have cut out cheese and yogurt xx
We are in same boat, I am a vegetarian too, praying for blue.
meoab
August 29th, 2017, 04:39 AM
No do not cut it out. I am sure I got a boy by drinking lots of English tea, Indian tea, hot choco, hot milk with honey (full fat milk only), had cheese, mayo etc etc compared to when I got my DD. Please do not cut it out!
Ammue
August 31st, 2017, 01:48 PM
Hi all,
I am also vegetarian and swaying blue. I am finding hard time to take protein with every meal. What protein sources you are taking?
TIA
atomic sagebrush
September 1st, 2017, 01:54 PM
I don't eat that much meat during the day really ever and when I got my boys I had dairy, beans, eggs, nuts, pasta during the day.
So an average day for me would be:
Breakfast:
4 oz. cheese ****s OR 1/2 cup nuts
2 large cups of tea
Sometimes I'd have oranges or dates with this
Lunch:
Dinner leftovers or
Spaghetti w/cheese on top, sometimes with meat sauce but usually not or
Egg tacos or
Fried egg sandwich or
Bean burrito or
Peanut Butter and Jelly or
Bagel with lots of cream cheese
Salad with nuts, eggs, cheese, or meat
Rarely I'd have deli meat sandwich
Dinner - I would have what most people have regularly for dinner - casseroles, pasta with meat sauce, meat and potatoes, chicken and rice, fish, hamburgers, etc.
Then I usually snacked between all three meals LOL!! Not huge amounts, but a chocolate bar at work, or an avocado with salsa and chips in the afternoon, and then I always, always had a bedtime snack of either yogurt and berries or else cereal with milk.
I don't think the dinners were different than what most people eat, it was what I'd have for breakfast and lunch and then the snacks.
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