Please explain girl sway diet +every four days do I add one more attempt at positive Opk?

[Missymaemar3]

I am new and just learning how to post so sorry for repeating anything if I asked one or two of you guys lol 😂 forgive me I'm a noob.
I've been doing this and that keep reading things for girl sway and having to stop bcuz it's really not girl friendly. So here I am... I'll start taking fiber asap and folate (can't take folic acid) only and cut down on meat no red meat at all lots of veggies and fruits but which can I actually eat and which should I avoid I keep reading different things I just need something straight up eat this not that bla bla.

I did a three day cut off but no spermies obviously survived so I'm wanting to do the every four days instead of every other day because that is boy friendly)) I stopped one day before I got my positive Opk and I ovulated 2 days after my first positive Opk for a fact 100 percent bbt)) I'm wanting to do a attempt at first positive Opk so is every four days plus one attempt at positive Opk still okay for girl sway?? Thank you all💕💕

[ksmom]

You can eat whatever foods you like, as long as it's within the limits of 1500-1800 cals, 50-60g protein, 30-60g fat. Taking folate is great and cutting down on meatis great too. Some of us found it easier to stick to LE limits by going vegetarian. Unless you're doing the PCOS version of LE which should include small amounts of meat.

I would BD every four days or one attempt at pos OPK, not both.

[Missymaemar3]

You can eat whatever foods you like, as long as it's within the limits of 1500-1800 cals, 50-60g protein, 30-60g fat. Taking folate is great and cutting down on meatis great too. Some of us found it easier to stick to LE limits by going vegetarian. Unless you're doing the PCOS version of LE which should include small amounts of meat.

I would BD every four days or one attempt at pos OPK, not both.



I'm just worried doing the every 4 day because I don't want to bd on ovulation day that's how I had my son I waited 4-5 days not intential and then my temp went down and I bd and got pregnant with him. I'm using Opk this time I bd the night before I got my positive Opk and didn't bd till after ovulation I ovulated two days after I got my positive and three days after bd and no spermies were left I guess since I didn't get pregnant lol so I wanted to try once after I get my first positive then stop should I bd only once or twice a week then?

[ksmom]

Timing doesn't sway. One attempt in the fertile window seems to sway pink according to our stats. I would either have sex every 4 days after AF is over OR have an attempt when you get a pos OPK. If you decide to BD once you have a pos opk, you can start BD every 4 days until bfp or AF shows up just in case of late ovulation. Of course you can do what you like but these things help sway pink.

[Missymaemar3]

How many times should my husband 'release' for girl friendly he's taking cranberry and licorice root im going to be taking fiber and folate since atomic said that's the only things they suggest now plus I'm taking vitex but my husband is 27 I'm 24. In thinking I'll bd only once in fertile window when I get my first positive Opk and do the every four days I temp too and I usually o 2 days after first positive Opk. I'm just so confused with the diet thank you for helping btw

[ksmom]

He should take either cranberry or licorice, not both. Personally I wouldn't worry about him releasing because I think it causes husbands too much stress...or at least for mine it did. I've seen atomic post about vitex saying it just messes up cycles but I'd ask her to be sure.

[Missymaemar3]

Oh why not both I never heard that before? I have to be on vitex because my cycles are over 40 days and it makes me regular and helps me ovulate it only messes cycles up who are regular.

[atomic sagebrush]

Folate is better anyway!

The way I prefer everyone do their attempts is to first try a couple months with one attempt at positive OPK, THEN go to every 4 day method, and only after you have tried both of those things, only at that point go to every 4 days plus one. I believe e4d plus 1 could be potentially blue friendly so I would not have you go right to that.

The odds of pregnancy with a cutoff of that long are small, so before going to e4d plus one, I'd have a month or even two with one attempt at positive OPK, then another month or even two or even three LOL with every 4 days, and only at that point in time, add the additional attempt at positive OPK too.

E4d plus one is meant NOT as a strong pink sway, but as a way to boost odds of conception. So no one go into that thinking that it's advised for anyone except those who need to get pregnant sooner rather than later. If you have the time to spare, try some of the other methods first.

[atomic sagebrush]

He should take either cranberry or licorice, not both. Personally I wouldn't worry about him releasing because I think it causes husbands too much stress...or at least for mine it did. I've seen atomic post about vitex saying it just messes up cycles but I'd ask her to be sure.

No, whoops, it is LR or peppermint tea and then OLE or Cranberry.

LR and cranberry are ok together.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh why not both I never heard that before? I have to be on vitex because my cycles are over 40 days and it makes me regular and helps me ovulate it only messes cycles up who are regular.

If vitex is helping your cycles then it's fine to continue with it - it lowers hormones so is good for people who have some PCOS tendencies (but to be honest, it's MUCH better to correct those via diet and exercise instead of relying on vitex) and then since most people end up with too low hormone levels while swaying on sway diets, it ends up messing up cycles for lots of people, even at times those it's seemed to help before.

[atomic sagebrush]

How many times should my husband 'release' for girl friendly he's taking cranberry and licorice root im going to be taking fiber and folate since atomic said that's the only things they suggest now plus I'm taking vitex but my husband is 27 I'm 24. In thinking I'll bd only once in fertile window when I get my first positive Opk and do the every four days I temp too and I usually o 2 days after first positive Opk. I'm just so confused with the diet thank you for helping btw

I need more info about what you're confused on with the diet.

At 24 I'd have my husband abstain. It's easiest and less stressful that way.

[ksmom]

No, whoops, it is LR or peppermint tea and then OLE or Cranberry.

LR and cranberry are ok together.

Oh sorry! I think I got confused because DH took cranberry but couldn't do LR with his heart defect so I guess I was thinking the two couldn't be combined.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh sorry! I think I got confused because DH took cranberry but couldn't do LR with his heart defect so I guess I was thinking the two couldn't be combined.

No not at all, you are always so wonderfully helpful to everyone, I really appreciate it! :)

[Missymaemar3]

Okay I see thank you for your reply. I decided one attempt at positive Opk is good for me bcuz last time I did it the day before and last time before than four days and not pregnant. Buttttt I also just got my husband olive leaf extract because I heard of really good things but can he still take LR with that for a girl sway? Which is better for swaying down to statistics you think.. LR with cranberry or LR and OLE or all three?? Vitex has helped me in the past regulate my hormones never noticed them lowering too much besides regulating however I am exercising now acouple days a week and trying to do Le diet no red meat or a lot f carbs keep reading things going back and forth. I also just got Sylk plan on using it a little this time since I might do the lime tampon acouple hours before hand and sudafed eh when you have time let me know what you think.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, whoops, it is LR or peppermint tea and then OLE or Cranberry.

LR and cranberry are ok together.

Missy, this explains how to mix n match the supps

[atomic sagebrush]

I would really hesitate before adding in things that do nothing and cut odds of conception like Sylk. After you've been at this a while it's time to start dropping stuff like that, not adding it.

The stats are not reliable and honestly I do not believe that anything DH takes does much. The only things I really believe in for DH are jogging/biking, smoking, and possibly soy milk and foods. Not convinced on any of the rest of it. In the stats, OLE was best. LR was disappointing, cranberry neutral.

NO SUDAFED for you. We do not use Sudafed because it's been linked to strokes in young women. Plus it really cuts odds of conception as well.

[Missymaemar3]

Ahhhh lol I keep reading old things you have said I guess I thought Sylk was good I'm not using rephresh anymore feel like I don't get pregnant with that... Is licorice root and olive extract okay together it doesn't say in the reply should I cut out cran then? I keep reading a lot of different things so that's why I said I was confused. They say alcohol is acidic then say no doesn't sway pink no meat at all then yes you can have some ect haha no caffeine yes caffeine a little caffeine ect. I'm guessing sudafed isn't good because it dries you up a lot...dang haha well out of your experience what should I do in my sway..then I won't keep reading random things. So sorry for the questions this should settle them all thank you so much <3

[Jeanette]

From a fellow pink swayer to another, do not take advice from really old threads. As the years passes by along with number of sways, Atomic obviosly gets better and better data what's working for most people and what's not. Also the advices from Atomic is sometimes given to that particular person and might not be the best for you.

I suggest you do a wrap up of exactly everything you do to sway Missy and it will be easier for Atomic to coach you, what to drop, keep or add.

Happy weekend :)

[Missymaemar3]

I'm realizing that now haha thank you. Eh. Well I guess I'll just sum it up here. Trying to do the LE not eating bananas potatoes tomatoes avocados apples which I do normally eat added more spinach and slowed down on the eggs and caffeine a little. Started drinking crystal light. Not working out as much as I'd like I'm trying to incorporate that more.. Stopped taking my multivitamin prenatal and cran cal mag sup (I started out with that until I read more) just taking vitex and folate now. Husband is taking cran and LR but I'm going to prob cut cran and add the olive extract not sure if he should take both LR and OLE or only OLE. I have a super long cycle vitex still needs to kick in (40 days give or take) so i did bd twice because husband wanted to lolll I'm on cycle day 19 last month I didn't get a positive Opk till cycle day 27 and ovulated the 29 bbt confirmed. But I'm abstaining now till positive Opk.. line keeps going to almost positive to maybe soon for a week :/ I was going to do a lime tampon acouple hours before with some Sylk depending on how my ph was orrrr I was just going to take sudafed acouple hours before. Now I have no idea. Hope Atomic sees this In time.

[Pinkmama]

You don't have to stop eating bananas or tomatoes o potatoes, there are no forbidden foods on LE. Eggs not too much because of high protein, avocados also little cause of the good fat on it. Coffee is recommended on girl sway



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[Missymaemar3]

Oh lord lol is egg whites good tho because there's not too much nutrition? How much caffeine are you suppose to have then? Thank you I guess I've been reading old posts.. I was going to make a post about this but on my phone idk where to do it I can't find anything that says new post..

[Nowmarriedgirl]

Oh lord lol is egg whites good tho because there's not too much nutrition? How much caffeine are you suppose to have then? Thank you I guess I've been reading old posts.. I was going to make a post about this but on my phone idk where to do it I can't find anything that says new post..

Eggs whites are full of protein so I'd limit them. Have coffee any time as caffeine sways girl. Have it for breakfast or as a snack in between meals. [emoji5][emoji5]

[atomic sagebrush]

Ahhhh lol I keep reading old things you have said I guess I thought Sylk was good I'm not using rephresh anymore feel like I don't get pregnant with that... Is licorice root and olive extract okay together it doesn't say in the reply should I cut out cran then? I keep reading a lot of different things so that's why I said I was confused. They say alcohol is acidic then say no doesn't sway pink no meat at all then yes you can have some ect haha no caffeine yes caffeine a little caffeine ect. I'm guessing sudafed isn't good because it dries you up a lot...dang haha well out of your experience what should I do in my sway..then I won't keep reading random things. So sorry for the questions this should settle them all thank you so much <3

I let people use lots of sway tactics but after you have been trying to conceive for a while it is time to start ditching the things that haven't worked and focus on those that do.

Yes, licorice root is ok with olive leaf. Do NOT take olive leaf and cranberry together, though

I understand that other sites claim alcohol and coffee sway blue but we have outstanding results with both.

Sudafed is NOT SAFE for women of childbearing age as it has been linked to strokes in young women particularly when taken in the way that other sites suggest you take it. It is fine for a person to take if they have a medical need such as sickness or whatever, but swaying is taking a risk for dubious benefit (and yes it does cut odds of conception)

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm realizing that now haha thank you. Eh. Well I guess I'll just sum it up here. Trying to do the LE not eating bananas potatoes tomatoes avocados apples which I do normally eat added more spinach and slowed down on the eggs and caffeine a little. Started drinking crystal light. Not working out as much as I'd like I'm trying to incorporate that more.. Stopped taking my multivitamin prenatal and cran cal mag sup (I started out with that until I read more) just taking vitex and folate now. Husband is taking cran and LR but I'm going to prob cut cran and add the olive extract not sure if he should take both LR and OLE or only OLE. I have a super long cycle vitex still needs to kick in (40 days give or take) so i did bd twice because husband wanted to lolll I'm on cycle day 19 last month I didn't get a positive Opk till cycle day 27 and ovulated the 29 bbt confirmed. But I'm abstaining now till positive Opk.. line keeps going to almost positive to maybe soon for a week :/ I was going to do a lime tampon acouple hours before with some Sylk depending on how my ph was orrrr I was just going to take sudafed acouple hours before. Now I have no idea. Hope Atomic sees this In time.

First and foremost thing is sticking in the limits. YES YOU CAN have eggs and egg whites, both are fine, stick in the limits of the diet and you can have any foods you want in those limits. The warning about eggs in LE Diet is not due to protein but because some sites claim that eggs are magic girl foods and people were eating a dozen eggs a day. Eggs within limits.

The "forbidden foods" is not LE Diet, it's the mineral diets. It is fine if you want to limit those but be sure you're getting a minimum of 2500 mg of potassium a day from somewhere, if you don't get that much, you can become very ill or even die if you get too low in potassium. Most of us did continue eating them - at least potatoes and apples and tomatoes. Makes it way easier to stick with diet when you do.

I never recommend lime tampon, have info on the site for those who want to use it.

Sylk is at your discretion, but I would never add that in for someone who wasn't getting pregnant. I generally have people start off with a strict sway and drop things over time so we don't have people going on for years not conceiving due to swaying too strictly, only to panic and drop everything all at once (and even sway blue!) just to conceive. Slow changes over time = best results.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh lord lol is egg whites good tho because there's not too much nutrition? How much caffeine are you suppose to have then? Thank you I guess I've been reading old posts.. I was going to make a post about this but on my phone idk where to do it I can't find anything that says new post..

Not caffeine necessarily but coffee. Any more than what you have had is fine. If you were having no coffee, have 1 cup. If 1 cup, have 2. Most will want to not have any more than 3 cups.

Both eggs and egg whites are ok within limits for the day.

To start a new post, you have to go back to the main page and then click open a forum. That's the part people miss. You actually have to click a forum itself (not a thread in the forum, the title of the forum) and then once you do that, you will see the "start new thread" button at the top of the page and it's all very self-explanatory at that point.

[Pinkmama]

First and foremost thing is sticking in the limits. YES YOU CAN have eggs and egg whites, both are fine, stick in the limits of the diet and you can have any foods you want in those limits. The warning about eggs in LE Diet is not due to protein but because some sites claim that eggs are magic girl foods and people were eating a dozen eggs a day. Eggs within limits.

The "forbidden foods" is not LE Diet, it's the mineral diets. It is fine if you want to limit those but be sure you're getting a minimum of 2500 mg of potassium a day from somewhere, if you don't get that much, you can become very ill or even die if you get too low in potassium. Most of us did continue eating them - at least potatoes and apples and tomatoes. Makes it way easier to stick with diet when you do.

I never recommend lime tampon, have info on the site for those who want to use it.

Sylk is at your discretion, but I would never add that in for someone who wasn't getting pregnant. I generally have people start off with a strict sway and drop things over time so we don't have people going on for years not conceiving due to swaying too strictly, only to panic and drop everything all at once (and even sway blue!) just to conceive. Slow changes over time = best results.

I'm sorry if I messed up by answering, I didn't mean no eggs, just not that many eggs. I try to use eggs only on preparations, not eating scrambled eggs or hard boiled eggs.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry if I messed up by answering, I didn't mean no eggs, just not that many eggs. I try to use eggs only on preparations, not eating scrambled eggs or hard boiled eggs.


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No not at all, I really appreciate all the help you guys give in pitching in to answer when I can't get through all the questions in one day! Just wanted to clarify that as it's a very common misconception. I really should have it clearer in the diet.

[Missymaemar3]

Well this is my fourth month ttc and nothing. For some reason this month messed up entirely Idk what's wrong but I had over a week of positive opks didn't get ewcm till a week after first positive and because I had to evacuate (hurricane Irma) I couldn't bd then. I have a ph of 4 usually sometimes 3.5 sometimes 4.5 depends. I did try the lime tampon it didn't bother me at all why do you not reccomend it just curious I made it a 3.5 not a 2 ph. Maybe my 4 ph with the 3.5 is too low for sperm? I'm just on vitex and folate wondering if this month got messed up because of vitex it's only my first month it usually takes a month to work tho. But husband took a little break from the vitamins and will be starting today again. I'm wondering this month if I should just bd every four full days now what do you reccomend? Only because Opk messed up for me this month idk what's best now it's my 4th month ttc with 40 plus days in a cycle.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh Missy so thankful you are ok!!

Research - by which I mean REAL research and not that done by people on gender swaying sites LOL - has shown that pH of anything below 6 = NO living sperm. Not X, not Y. X sperm do not love pH, no sperm love low pH, it kills them. The only reason why women can get pregnant doing stuff like lime douche is when their husband's semen can buffer that low pH and that doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

I would not be starting Vitex and lime tampon after 4 months TTC, I suspect I probably already nagged you about that before so I'll just toss it out there once more. :)

Vitex is notorious for causing many days of pos OPK like that so I betcha it was the vitex that caused it.
I would definitely have you on e4d for SURE at this stage. :)

[Missymaemar3]

Oh gosh Missy so thankful you are ok!!

Research - by which I mean REAL research and not that done by people on gender swaying sites LOL - has shown that pH of anything below 6 = NO living sperm. Not X, not Y. X sperm do not love pH, no sperm love low pH, it kills them. The only reason why women can get pregnant doing stuff like lime douche is when their husband's semen can buffer that low pH and that doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

I would not be starting Vitex and lime tampon after 4 months TTC, I suspect I probably already nagged you about that before so I'll just toss it out there once more. :)

Vitex is notorious for causing many days of pos OPK like that so I betcha it was the vitex that caused it.
I would definitely have you on e4d for SURE at this stage. :)

Just read and replied to the other post and you said being 24 I have time if I wanted to try Opk for another month or so because my age and because it most likely was vitex messing me up. I will try another month hoping vitex will be out of my system since af is coming soon I'm on cycle day 42. And thank you i was safe but didn't have power for a week..everyone was acting like it was the apocalypse! Going crazy st gas stations and stores

[atomic sagebrush]

Makes sense to me - at 24 you do have that ability so if that's what your gut is telling you I am totally on board!

OH yes I bet - when things go wrong it's bad enough and then you have to deal with all the people being insane on top of it all!!