Slimfast shakes as a LE meal?

[Georgia_Peach]

Hey guys!

Wondering if slimfast protein powder shakes would be ok as a meal replacement 2x day on LE. E.g... lunch, snack and then eat dinner normally.
Atomic.. I'm not losing as much weight as I'd like. Need to up my game. Already switched to pcos diet and I only eat 3x day. Always under 50g protein and 25G-30G fat. My cals are usually around 1000-1300 most days.I am short so that's a healthy number to lose weight but I am not losing any.
Can I do the shakes instead if it falls into the limits?


Thanks ☺

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[Shannshaff]

I would be leery of those shakes since they are fortified with nutrients. :(

[Georgia_Peach]

Not the shakes that are premade.. like the actual protein powder. I don't think they have the same nutrients do they?

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[Shannshaff]

When made with Fat Free Milk, the nutrition looks to be about the same. Are you thinking of making them with something other than milk?

[Georgia_Peach]

When made with Fat Free Milk, the nutrition looks to be about the same. Are you thinking of making them with something other than milk?Like just a scoop of protein powder and water. Maybe adding a scoop of peanut butter to up taste.

[Georgia_Peach]

You might be right though.. bc here is the nutritional info.
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[ksmom]

I think considering you're not eating enough, fortified foods may be okay. Have you asked Atomic about your cal/fat/protein intake? I know she always says no one should ever go below 1200 cals or 25g fat, regardless of size. I'm not trying to be nosy, just concerned when I see someone isn't eating much. :)

[Georgia_Peach]

I think considering you're not eating enough, fortified foods may be okay. Have you asked Atomic about your cal/fat/protein intake? I know she always says no one should ever go below 1200 cals or 25g fat, regardless of size. I'm not trying to be nosy, just concerned when I see someone isn't eating much. :)Ya I am following the limits allowed. Maybe not her recommendations of cals most days... but some days I go to 1300 cals. It's so odd bc everyone loses weight on the LE and I never do. If I went to the recommended 1500 cals a day of gain weight! [emoji53]

[ksmom]

Have you tried the PCOS version of LE? I know there are some people that can't lose weight with regular LE because it's so carb-y.

[Shannshaff]

I have not lost weight on the LE diet either time I was on it. :( It might be because I can't loose weight when BFing, but there are some of us that just have a hard time loosing weight.

[Mommy2apples]

Robin, maybe the pcos version as suggested? I've lost a lot on it since march and now just working on maintaining my weight. I've lost 41lbs since I started it in march. Also did 60 minutes of stationary bike 7 days a week!

Here's Atomic's pcos version

PCOS PINK Sway Diet!!!!!!!!!!

When swaying with PCOS, insulin resistance, have a significant amount of weight to lose (more than 30 lbs), or are having trouble losing weight on the "crash and burn" style of LE Diet (this may be a sign that you are a bit insulin resistant), empty carbs are not going to help your sway. They may in fact harm your sway by sending your testosterone levels skyrocketing (other people would see T drop on the "crash and burn" style of LE Diet).

So if you fall into one of these categories, you need to change the proportions of protein and fat to carbs (cutting carbs overall in favor of more protein and fat) and get most, if not all, your carbs from small amounts of whole grains and fiber-rich fruit and vegetable (fresh or lightly cooked is much better than canned/well-cooked). This is what we call the "slow burn" style of LE Diet.

How does this work?? Protein and carbs have the same amount of calories in them - about 4 calories per gram. Fat has 9 calories a gram. So by getting more protein and more fat, you make up for any caloric deficit that you would incur by cutting back on carbs somewhat, and yet you are still sticking within the overall limits of LE Diet in terms of calories. Don't just cut out carbs, you'll starve that way! Remember, no one should ever drop below 1200 calories!! Also keep in mind that low carb vegetables are free for everyone on both types of diets - you do not count them for calories, fat, or protein and you can eat as much as you want.

Protein - increase to 50-60 g (up from 40-50 g) and if you are super tall and/or are working out a lot, you may want to even increase this a bit more. I would not increase over 70 g protein no matter what and if you're less than 5-10 (178 cm), I would not increase above 60 g unless you are exercising a lot.

Fat - should be at upper limits for calorie intake, so 30% of your calories from fat. On a 1200 cal diet this will be about 25 g fat, on an 1800 cal diet this will be about 60 g fat. Please make an extra effort to get the majority of your fat calories from Omega 6 and transfats as described in this essay The Skinny on Fats for pink and blue!

So while a traditional "crash and burn" type diet would look like this (and please try not to get too hung up on the numbers, this is really just ballpark for illustration only):


1500-1800 cals Roughly 1000-1500 cals are going to be from carbs, depending on the amount of calories overall and the proportions of protein/fat you are eating. These carbs can be in the form of empty white carbs but can also include small amounts of whole grains and also fruit and higher carb vegetables.

40-50 g protein 160-200 day's cals from protein

25-60 g fat 225-540 day's cals from fat
(and while you might wanna try to get more Omega 6 fats, if you're eating low fat in the 25 g range, it becomes less important to do this, and in fact you may need to make some effort to get at least a bit of saturated fat to ensure you continue ovulating.)

The "slow burn" type of diet would look more like this:

1500-1800 calories Roughly 750-1000 cals from carbs and these carbs will all be in the form of whole grains, fresh or lightly cooked fruit and higher carb veg with lots of fiber to help with insulin resistance
(and while I rarely LIKE to see anyone drop to 1200-1500 calories, some gals with PCOS/IR may benefit from this low a caloric intake at the beginning - as the weight comes off, insulin sensitivity will improve and you can increase calories at that point)

50-60 g protein 200-240 cals from protein, and if you're tall and/or are working out a lot, you can up this as high as 280

60 g fat 540 cals from fat
(and if you can get primarily Omega 6 fats, that's going to help your sway a lot - you don't need to worry about getting any Omega 3 or saturated fat, because your protein foods and the Omega 6 fats will have a little bit in them and that will maintain ovulation)

Wow that was a lot of writing and mathematical equations there! I know, I know, very confusing. So, here is a simplified version LE Diet I made for custom swayers with PCOS/IR - while it's not going to be right or necessary for everyone to be quite this strict, it will help you kinda envision what a "slow burn" type of LE Diet is going to look like.

(Where it says "eat X number of times a day" that means you eat that amount that many times per day. It's like the Weight Watchers points system - you can have 2 or 3 servings at one meal or 1 at 3 meals or however works the best for you. You do not, and in fact shouldn't, be eating 5 times a day on any form of LE Diet. On the "slow burn" style LE Diet, it can be very beneficial to your insulin response to have a nice long fast period up to 16 hours every day with no food coming in and this also seems to sway pink.)

--Eat every day:

1 full fat Brown Cow yogurt (or any full fat yogurt) OR 3/4 c whole milk
1 Taste Nirvana Coconut water (or any coconut water, that one is good tasting while some other brands are ucky)
(this will ensure you get a decent amount of potassium and will help with fat and protein)

--2-3 times a day, pick one :

(You can split them into smaller servings and have more often if you would prefer this. These products are not going to be available in all areas and in that case you just would substitute an equivalent product. The salt limits are only for those who are limiting sodium.)

½ c brown rice
½ c cooked whole wheat pasta
1 slice whole grain bread (NOT wheat bread, must be 100% whole grain)
4 Ry Krisp crackers (unsalted)
8 Hint of Salt Triscuits
16 Hint of Salt Wheat Thins
One graham cracker (this is a treat to be had when you’re craving something sweet and you MUST top with the peanut butter option below.)

2 times a day, pick one:

1-2 cup fruit (if the fruit is chunky and not too sweet like watermelon, you can have more; if it’s kind of dense like blueberries, stick with the smaller amount.
1 baked potato (pick a smallish one)
1 baked yam (smallish one)
Carrot Sticks (you can have quite a few, like 2 carrots’ worth)
1 banana
1 apple or pear (I actually want you to leave the skins on these for extra fiber that will keep your blood sugar in check.)
1 corn on the cob
½ c storebought pasta sauce

5 times a day pick one:

2 egg whites
1 whole egg (best to keep these to a few times per week to prevent getting too much saturated fat)
2 T hummus
½ c beans, lentils, or peas
1 1x1 inch **** of cheese
2 chick. nugget size pieces of chicken (use on top of salad or on taco)
1 oz. turkey (ground or sliced deli meat)
Piece of tofu about the size of a deck of cards
1/8 of a cup of nuts or seed (use to top a salad)
3 large shrimp or scallops (this is an occasional treat – no more than 2x a week)
2 T peanut butter (eat on top of the graham crackers if you are craving something sweet)

(eating that amount of the above foods, plus the protein in the yogurt/whole milk and grains, will ensure you get enough protein)

3-5 times a day pick one:

If you don't NEED to eat them, this is a place to cut some cals, but please feel free to include them if you would like.

1 T oil (corn or vegetable oil with Omega 6 fats are best)
1 T butter (margarine with Omega 6 fats may be better)
1 T mayo
1 T not-very-sweet salad dressing like vinaigrette or ranch
1 T whipping cream (can pour over berries)
1 T parmesan cheese

UNLIMITED

You can have as much as you want.
Mustard and unsweetened Salsa
Mushrooms
Herbs
All low carb veggies (asparagus, bell pepper, broccoli, cauliflower, eggplant, green beans, lettuce, spinach, spaghetti squash, tomato, zucchini)
If you can, use leeks and green onions instead of garlic and onion





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[Mommy2apples]

Robin, These are right before starting the le pcos
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After being on the pcos diet for 24 weeks so far, but as I said now just focusing on maintaining.


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[Georgia_Peach]

Robin, These are right before starting the le pcos
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This one is 40lbs less https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/1a66e4f1561c15c93a2a25be149f807d.jpg
After being on the pcos diet for 24 weeks so far, but as I said now just focusing on maintaining.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, the PCOS Diet is 50-60 g protein and 50-60 g fat so you do need to change that part. This will effectively cut carbs because you're eating more pro and fat while eating the same amount of calories.

I don't want ANYONE regardless of height under 1200 calories. What you're doing is causing your body to lower metabolism so much that it will hang onto every scrap of weight. Slimfast will not only make this worse, but it is highly fortified as well.

As long as you've lost SOME weight, that is all you need to do. You don't need to lose massive quantities of weight on LE Diet and it hasn't been even terribly predictive of who gets a girl and who gets a boy.

[Georgia_Peach]

Well, the PCOS Diet is 50-60 g protein and 50-60 g fat so you do need to change that part. This will effectively cut carbs because you're eating more pro and fat while eating the same amount of calories.

I don't want ANYONE regardless of height under 1200 calories. What you're doing is causing your body to lower metabolism so much that it will hang onto every scrap of weight. Slimfast will not only make this worse, but it is highly fortified as well.

As long as you've lost SOME weight, that is all you need to do. You don't need to lose massive quantities of weight on LE Diet and it hasn't been even terribly predictive of who gets a girl and who gets a boy.I mean... since being on LE after my miscarrage I've only lost 3 pounds total. I've been stuck at the same weight for weeks now. I already do pcos diet.
I've stopped working out due to no time.. Maybe I should do that again. It's just harder though bc then I am starving.

[Mommy2apples]

Thanks Robin


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[atomic sagebrush]

I mean... since being on LE after my miscarrage I've only lost 3 pounds total. I've been stuck at the same weight for weeks now. I already do pcos diet.
I've stopped working out due to no time.. Maybe I should do that again. It's just harder though bc then I am starving.

But if you aren't doing the 50-60 g protein and fat you aren't doing PCOS Diet. Part of the key is that you are getting a higher % of your calorie intake from protein and fat and a lower % of carbs and this can help with weight loss. Couple that with the low cal intake and your body just wants to hang onto everything. Try changing up those things.

[Georgia_Peach]

But if you aren't doing the 50-60 g protein and fat you aren't doing PCOS Diet. Part of the key is that you are getting a higher % of your calorie intake from protein and fat and a lower % of carbs and this can help with weight loss. Couple that with the low cal intake and your body just wants to hang onto everything. Try changing up those things.Ok I'll try that then. I honestly find it extremely hard to get protein but I'm going to try hard
And what should my fat gram be on 1200 cals?

[atomic sagebrush]

50-60 g. You don't change that even at 1200 calories. The key here is to be sure you're getting fewer carbs, more fat and protein, and the weight will shift. Something about those carbs, even the good ones, can really keep weight on. We've had people on here who had to even give up a single piece of fruit they were having to get weight to move. Then once your body gets the idea it tends to snowball and then usually you'll have to add carbs back in.

Even if you have to eat a small amount of meat (just a couple nugget size pieces of chicken) to get the protein, that is a-ok on the PCO-type diet.