Pink sways after 3+ boys?

[JJ66]

Hi! So here's what I'm looking for: some successful pink sways of boy moms who have 3 or more boys. I know there aren't too many!

I feel like the successful pink sway, after maybe only having one boy, could be different story than those who have several boys, then manage to have a girl.

Bonus would be if you have a few boys, including a failed sway, to see what you changed or did differently the next go round.

I'm looking for some commonalities of what's working for those of us inclined to make boys! I don't necessarily need the full sway, really just input or what you found to be critical to the sway.

I have 3 boys, one failed sway, and if we go for the final 4th, it's gotta be a good one.

[fiveboys]

Ive had 5 boys naturally and then tried ht for a daughter but with only one egg which resulting in my 6th boy.. i tried swaying for 3 months and got pregnant on my first attempt, and im due my little daughter in 5 weeks, i definitely believe in the swaying methods x

[XXforhubby]

I have 3 boys with my third being a "failed" girl sway. I hate typing that, because he was clearly very much meant to be a part of our family! I have both of my sways posted on here, and I will attach them for you to read through. You will see they are very different from one another! Both times it took me a long time to conceive but for very different reasons. With my DS3, I messed with supplements and increased one that wrecked havoc on my fertility. With my DD, my Vitamin D levels were incredibly low causing my hormones to be out of wack and high prolactin causing both causing me to have very long cycles with delayed ovulation. I was prescribed Clomid to reduce my prolactin levels, since I was still breastfeeding my DS3 at the time. Everything else was also very different from diet, exercise, and attempts. Feel free to ask me additional questions either here or by sending me a private message. 🤞🏻so hard for you!

First Girl Sway:

XXforhubby TTC a GIRL Sway Attempt

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=35024&share_tid=48940&share_pid=700856&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egenderdreaming%2Ecom%2Fforu m%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D700856&share_type=t

Second Girl Sway: For some reason on the tapatalk app, not all of my sway is showing up. You'll need to view it by actually manually logging in to the site. Sorry!

XXforhubby TTC a GIRL Sway Attempt

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=35024&share_tid=58065&share_pid=886825&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egenderdreaming%2Ecom%2Fforu m%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D886825&share_type=t


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[JJ66]

Wow! That's amazing, lucky #7. Do you have a link to your sway? I really appreciate it!

Thank you, XX, that's exactly what I'm looking for. My DS3 is seriously a force of nature, and I'm obsessed with him. We say "fail", but with love, and I know exactly what you mean.

Thank you ladies!

[LacePrincess]

Well I have 3 boys and finally our girl....but I wasn't swaying on purpose. We had a 5 year run of infertility and then repeat miscarriages, and the cycle I finally conceived our little girl successfully was last Dec when I was on a treatment break (so no expensive vitamins/supplements/methylfolate/FertilAid/ etc etc, no meds, no Femara, no IUI/IVF). I was just sick of it all and was on a mental break so we were pretty much at NTNP. I was also sick of spending hundreds on fertility vitamins every month so I was only taking omega 3 and cheapie Walmart Equate brand prenatals.

Actually the month I conceived I was distracted by holiday prep so I was barely even tracking ovulation, I remember I totally flaked on doing enough OPK's so I actually missed my surge. I can usually pinpoint O to within 12 hours, that December I could only guess within a range of 3 days based on when we'd bd'ed lol. Because we were so careless with trying that month I actually think we did end up with just one attempt in the fertile window too - not on purpose but because we were too pooped to try any harder!

I'd thrown out swaying pretty much entirely since we just wanted to conceive and we really didn't care about gender. However, I do think the ongoing hellish stress of 5 years of TTC, the recurrent miscarriages (3 within a year prior), plus I was very fit and exercising a lot (ballet dancer training 4+ times a week and performing Nutcracker last Dec). Also I had gotten in a habit of skipping breakfast and just having coffee as my regular routine.

So while I wouldn't recommend doing what I did lol, I do think that in the end I was doing a lot of pink sway lifestyle factors even if not deliberately. The ongoing stress factor was probably one of the biggest ones.

[AshFind]

I have 4 boys hadn't heard of swaying until just before ttc #5. Huge things for me I think. I skipped breakfast, drank at least 4 cups of coffee a day, other than coffee had Coke Zero, if I did eat meat it was white, and just had unhealthy carbs [emoji38]. Lost 10lbs in the 7 weeks on diet before conceiving. Tried by best to stick with the protein, fat, carbs percentages but wasn't super strict and didn't stress over it. And dh was not going for one attempt we had 3. Due in January with baby girl


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[AshFind]

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[AshFind]

Lol one more thing I was a runner and completely stopped on my diet so I went with the 0 exercise deal since I had so much muscle to begin with. I could tell I lost so much muscle and was so weak just from the diet but it was all worth it and I'll get it back soon enough


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[atomic sagebrush]

????? No, I think we've had quite a few actually, including mine after 4 boys. In fact I'd say the majority of my pink swayers have 3 boys if not 4. Most people do not even discover swaying until after their second boy is born and a lot of people do only timing with their first "sway" (this was totally my story, did Shettles with DS 3, then tried to sway with DS 4 but was taking tons of vitamins as told to by IG, likely had more than one attempt, and also got pregnant in a month I'd taken off to try and regain weight.) So if your theory is that swaying is harder for those with lots of boys already and that people who sway for a girl after one boy is somehow skewing our results, that is really not supported by the facts as most of the people in our sway stats have at least 2 and even more often 3/4 boys already. Way, way more people sway with 3 boys already than sway with only one child.

Here is what I did differently with my DD:

One attempt (only conception with one attempt)
Losing weight (with other boys I had either just gained or was holding steady)
At lowest conception weight
Husband and I both drinking alcohol (did not with any boys)
TRUE LE Diet for 6 months
Vitex for 6 months (but I also got a boy taking vitex)
Breastfeeding (I was with DS 4 as well but not any of the others)
Coffee instead of tea (only one without drinking tea, I drink massive amounts)
Only kid where I was skipping breakfast
Was not taking vitamins or eating fortified cereal (I took vitamins with 3 of 4 and ate cereal with 3 of 4)
Under loads of stress/sleepless nights
I had probably the lowest sex drive of my whole adult life due to vitex, stress, lack of sleep
Husband inexplicably took up smoking when he turned 40, only conception where he was smoking
Husband had gained tons of weight compared to when we got our boys
Lowest intake of dairy and calcium for both myself and my husband by far
We were both over 40

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and while I did lose weight before I conceived my 4th son too (and then took a month to gain some back but then got pregnant that month grr) I found that I maintained a lot of muscle mass with him. The second time, after I had him I lost like 70 lbs, baby weight and then some, and I was a lot less muscle and a lot more mush.

[JJ66]

Thanks! I don't have a "theory" about results being skewed. I'm really just trying to find a commonality between those who've had 3+ of one gender (boys, in my case). There are so many different sway tactics, so I'm trying to pinpoint those that might have more influence, which sounds like: weight loss, stress, one attempt. Plus, with those who've had a lot of boys, there's more chance that they may have a "failed" sway, so they switched things up the next time (which is interesting to see). I know it's all chance, but, it's helpful to see these ladies' sways.

[BoymamaRN]

Following!!! I have 3 boys and am hoping for a girl. Currently ttc. However I am new to this site and am "lightly swaying".

[boyshopping]

Hi JJ66,
I’m following your post - very interested. So very similar - multiple boys and my ‘failed’ sway was the LE diet. I lost a lot of weigh and was down to 104/105lbs. I lost almost 15lbs over 8mos. I was first running 6x a week for 60min then it went down to 4x a week the last 6weeks as I was so thin. I ate mainly salads and maybe 1-2x I had some chicken. I tried to eat low calorie, low fat. For example for crackers I would eat wasa crackers with lots of salads / fruits. I long for a daughter but I’m not sure what to do if I were to sway again. I lost weigh, exercised 60 minutes 4-6x/ week, tried to eat mostly salads (I didn’t count calories being that I basically ate salad, fruit, rice. Also one attempt (but maybe I should have done it not at peak ovulation?)

I felt like I followed the Le diet to a T.... Maybe some of us are just more prone to a gender. Would love to hear from others....

[ksmom]

Boyshopping, I think even with a "perfect" pink sway (not that any sway is perfect), there's still going to be opposites 20-30% of the time. I doubt it's anything you did or didn't do, just didn't go your way. I thought I had a pretty good sway but I got another boy anyway. It happens! You may benefit from doing the PCOS version of LE if you decide to sway pink again.

[Mummyof4boys]

The main things i did differently when I conceived my girl:
skipped breakfast and replaced it with two cups of coffee (don’t normally drink it)
two meals a day and no snacks in between...mostly lol
No cereal and fruit juice (previously ate/drank lots of)
Drank 1 or 2 alcoholic drinks most days (don’t normally drink alcohol)
Fibre supplement
One attempt in fertile window

Good luck with your sway! :)

[boyshopping]

ksmom - that is very true... there is still a 30% chance of opposite even with the best sway. That's why not sure if doing another sway would really do anything. Could still be in the 30% bucket again... Are you considering HT?

[atomic sagebrush]

ksmom - that is very true... there is still a 30% chance of opposite even with the best sway. That's why not sure if doing another sway would really do anything. Could still be in the 30% bucket again... Are you considering HT?

Swaying can't be a guarantee but that doesn't mean it isn't doing something.

If doing nothing gets you nothing, and doing a sway gets you to - let's be conservative and say 65% (when you may have been 70% "set" for the opposite gender!!) - it seems like a no brainer to me to do a sway. But if the option is between swaying and HT, always do HT (if you can afford it without causing financial distress to your family, that is) because swaying is not a guarantee.

[atomic sagebrush]

Boyshopping, I think even with a "perfect" pink sway (not that any sway is perfect), there's still going to be opposites 20-30% of the time. I doubt it's anything you did or didn't do, just didn't go your way. I thought I had a pretty good sway but I got another boy anyway. It happens! You may benefit from doing the PCOS version of LE if you decide to sway pink again.

:agree: We have to keep in mind that all this swaying stuff is simply meant to help our genes get passed down to future generations. If anything we could easily do in the span of a few months could guarantee 100% all one gender would be born not only would we have figured it out a long time ago (those old wives were pretty smart about stuff like that) but additionally the entire human race would have died out a long time ago. The first time there was a famine, or all those millions of years where we lived on mostly meat, or those milennia where we switched from eating mostly meat to eating mostly grains, or the cultures that eat mostly vegetarian diets - we would see some sort of wildly skewed gender ratio in those cultures and during those times in history. Humans are alive today because they can keep making boys and girls on lots of different diets in lots of different circumstances and it just cannot be a guarantee becuase our genes would not have survived if it was easy to skew gender via a few little diet changes. That we can do it at all, in any reasonably reliable way over the last 7 years is amazeballs. But it's not a guarantee and can never be. Anyone who needs the guarantee, go HT.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi JJ66,
I’m following your post - very interested. So very similar - multiple boys and my ‘failed’ sway was the LE diet. I lost a lot of weigh and was down to 104/105lbs. I lost almost 15lbs over 8mos. I was first running 6x a week for 60min then it went down to 4x a week the last 6weeks as I was so thin. I ate mainly salads and maybe 1-2x I had some chicken. I tried to eat low calorie, low fat. For example for crackers I would eat wasa crackers with lots of salads / fruits. I long for a daughter but I’m not sure what to do if I were to sway again. I lost weigh, exercised 60 minutes 4-6x/ week, tried to eat mostly salads (I didn’t count calories being that I basically ate salad, fruit, rice. Also one attempt (but maybe I should have done it not at peak ovulation?)

I felt like I followed the Le diet to a T.... Maybe some of us are just more prone to a gender. Would love to hear from others....

Yes, some of us are more prone to a gender. It is simply incredible (literally, as in, impossible to be credible) that anything we do for 12 weeks could entirely undo the signals that our body has received over the course of our entire lifetimes and possibly dating back as far as when we were eggs developing in our grandmother's body (since that is when the egg that became us, formed). It just doesn't work that way and the fact that in 12 weeks doing a few easy to make changes in diet and exercise can get us a fairly reliable 65-70%, when it is likely that some of us are coming into trying to conceive possibly 65-70% or even more "set" for the opposite gender...you guys, that's a pretty big deal. Even if we were starting from straight up 50-50 it is still a pretty big deal.

Swaying is like an iceberg, the stuff we see "above the water" is small compared to the rest of the stuff that is down below the water. We do what we can do and then at the end of it, there is a not-small element of luck and chance involved. That's just how it is. If you can't accept that, then go HT, it's the only way to fly.

The good news is, because of that element of luck and chance (which is not small, remember) you can do exactly what you did in the past and get a different result. It may be that your body took longer to get the message, it may be that last time you got to 70% and then just fell into the 30%, it may be that you only got to 50-50 last time and the coin toss didn't go your way, it may be that next time you may get a different result...we don't know and cannot know either what happened the last time or what will happen in the future.

All we know is that over the whole population, we are getting results in the "correct" direction every year for 7 years straight, both pink and blue, and this is without driving ourselves or our hubbies insane and with average 3 months to conception (so this is a wide swath of compliance, easy to stick to, anyone can do it). The odds of that happening are 1 in 16,384. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/59132-coin-flips-random-thoughts.html#post962304 All we can do is look at what has worked for most people, most of the time, and do that. And if that is not good enough, please consider going HT and nuthin and I will help you however we can.

[ksmom]

ksmom - that is very true... there is still a 30% chance of opposite even with the best sway. That's why not sure if doing another sway would really do anything. Could still be in the 30% bucket again... Are you considering HT?

Yes I'm planning to do HT. I hoped it would be this year but plans have changed a bit but I still plan on doing it in the next couple of years. DH is pretty much set on it and for awhile kept telling everyone about it. :suprise: I don't think he wants me swaying again anyway, since we don't just want a 4th baby, we want a daughter.

[JJ66]

Mummyof4boys: Did you put cream or sugar in your coffee? Im sure Atomic is hating this question, because Im fairly certain that doesn't make or break a sway, lol.

[JJ66]

KSMom: If HT was an option for us, I'd probably do it, too. It's such a mental battle, trying to decide my next step. It literally changes every day.

[atomic sagebrush]

Mummyof4boys: Did you put cream or sugar in your coffee? Im sure Atomic is hating this question, because Im fairly certain that doesn't make or break a sway, lol.

While officially I prefer you guys to have cream/milk and then no sweetener or artificial sweetener in coffee, personally I chose to leave this as a cheat and have real live sugar in my coffee in the morning. It was a cheat, but I knew since my prev. sway had produced an opposite that there were no guarantees and coffee without sugar in it saps my will to live LOL.

[JJ66]

Boyshopping - it sounds like our last sways were very similar, although you exercised longer than I did. I added in other things, but our diets sound alike!

[ksmom]

KSMom: If HT was an option for us, I'd probably do it, too. It's such a mental battle, trying to decide my next step. It literally changes every day.

I think the best question anyone can ask themselves in that situation is "do I want a baby or do I want a girl?"

[LA_Girl]

Great thread! Thanks to everyone who responded as it’s been really useful.

It’s great to hear you’re going HT ksmom. You’re soooo helpful on here it would be great to hear that you’ve got your girl.

HT would be great, but it is illegal in the UK so I’d have to go abroad, plus I’m 40 so I’m too old for it to be great odds of success, so I feel like swaying is my only option.

It’s interesting to hear that your hubby has told everyone ksmom. It’s such a taboo subject here. When it’s discussed on TV here people blast others for even having a preference. I see nothing wrong with wanting to experience being a parent to both sexes. I couldn’t tell anyone about my desire for a girl except my hubby for fear of being blasted for it and that I should just be grateful for a healthy baby (which is obviously everyone’s first priority). This is such a great site. I feel ‘safe’ here.

[JJ66]

KSMOM, preach. I don't think I'm mentally prepared to answer that question. Again, it changes daily.

[boyshopping]

I agree with all the ladies here...it really does change daily ...

[ksmom]

Great thread! Thanks to everyone who responded as it’s been really useful.

It’s great to hear you’re going HT ksmom. You’re soooo helpful on here it would be great to hear that you’ve got your girl.

HT would be great, but it is illegal in the UK so I’d have to go abroad, plus I’m 40 so I’m too old for it to be great odds of success, so I feel like swaying is my only option.

It’s interesting to hear that your hubby has told everyone ksmom. It’s such a taboo subject here. When it’s discussed on TV here people blast others for even having a preference. I see nothing wrong with wanting to experience being a parent to both sexes. I couldn’t tell anyone about my desire for a girl except my hubby for fear of being blasted for it and that I should just be grateful for a healthy baby (which is obviously everyone’s first priority). This is such a great site. I feel ‘safe’ here.

Thank you! I truly love helping everyone here, hence why I became a mod! I so hope you get your girl too. :)
Yeah I guess it's just different here in the US. Where I live, i get asked almost daily if we're going to try for a girl by complete strangers. Even the people DH has told about doing HT have been cool about it. I don't know if I'd tell my side of the family though...they're quite conservative. They don't even know I had GD because I've kept my feelings so well hidden. I've always acted like gender doesn't matter around them. I've told DH though to stop telling people about HT mostly because I don't think it's their business plus I don't want to deal with anyone that may possibly think it's a horrible idea.

[ksmom]

KSMOM, preach. I don't think I'm mentally prepared to answer that question. Again, it changes daily.

And that's okay! It's a really hard decision to make and a tough pill to swallow. I'll admit I do have brief (and I mean very brief lol) moments where I think I'd give swaying another shot. It doesn't happen often though and I learned after DS3 that while I LOVE my boys, I don't think I'll feel truly complete unless I have a daughter. I think if I swayed again and got another boy, I'd love him of course but I think I'd be bugging DH to have a 5th and in that case I'd be back at square one wanting to go HT.

[LA_Girl]

????? No, I think we've had quite a few actually, including mine after 4 boys. In fact I'd say the majority of my pink swayers have 3 boys if not 4. Most people do not even discover swaying until after their second boy is born and a lot of people do only timing with their first "sway" (this was totally my story, did Shettles with DS 3, then tried to sway with DS 4 but was taking tons of vitamins as told to by IG, likely had more than one attempt, and also got pregnant in a month I'd taken off to try and regain weight.) So if your theory is that swaying is harder for those with lots of boys already and that people who sway for a girl after one boy is somehow skewing our results, that is really not supported by the facts as most of the people in our sway stats have at least 2 and even more often 3/4 boys already. Way, way more people sway with 3 boys already than sway with only one child.

Here is what I did differently with my DD:

One attempt (only conception with one attempt)
Losing weight (with other boys I had either just gained or was holding steady)
At lowest conception weight
Husband and I both drinking alcohol (did not with any boys)
TRUE LE Diet for 6 months
Vitex for 6 months (but I also got a boy taking vitex)
Breastfeeding (I was with DS 4 as well but not any of the others)
Coffee instead of tea (only one without drinking tea, I drink massive amounts)
Only kid where I was skipping breakfast
Was not taking vitamins or eating fortified cereal (I took vitamins with 3 of 4 and ate cereal with 3 of 4)
Under loads of stress/sleepless nights
I had probably the lowest sex drive of my whole adult life due to vitex, stress, lack of sleep
Husband inexplicably took up smoking when he turned 40, only conception where he was smoking
Husband had gained tons of weight compared to when we got our boys
Lowest intake of dairy and calcium for both myself and my husband by far
We were both over 40

Did you exercise? Was this different when you got your DD?

[Mummyof4boys]

Mummyof4boys: Did you put cream or sugar in your coffee? Im sure Atomic is hating this question, because Im fairly certain that doesn't make or break a sway, lol.

Yes, I had both sugar and reduced fat milk. Probably 2/3 of the coffee was milk actually lol. I think the coffee was a strong sway tactic despite any potential hindrance the milk/sugar may have had...just my thoughts anyway :)

[4blue2pink]

ive had
boy-no sway
girl -no sway(lost mid pregnancy and wrongly told by Dr i most likely couldnt successfully carry girls)
boy-no sway
boy-no sway
boy-no sway
girl-no sway
girl-sucessful GD sway
boy-GD sway opposite

a girl or girls after 3+ boys is totally possible :) same goes for a boy/boys after 3+ girls, if you need your next baby to be a girl then i second everyone here who has said HT, if your ok with either gender and just want to up your odds in favour of pink then sway. ive swayed twice, very similar sways-one successful, one opposite, i also had a girl after 3 boys in a row (4 boys total) with no sway.

i guess what im trying to say is you always have a chance at either gender, you could sway and get an opposite or not sway and get your girl, you just never know.. but having 3+ boys doesn't mean swaying is pointless because you are bound to have boys no matter what you do.
imo providing you are open to an opposite (want another baby not just a daughter/son) swaying is always worth a try no matter how many of one gender you already have.

good luck with whatever you decide

[atomic sagebrush]

Did you exercise? Was this different when you got your DD?

I didn't exercise, I didn't have time.

[JJ66]

And that's okay! It's a really hard decision to make and a tough pill to swallow. I'll admit I do have brief (and I mean very brief lol) moments where I think I'd give swaying another shot. It doesn't happen often though and I learned after DS3 that while I LOVE my boys, I don't think I'll feel truly complete unless I have a daughter. I think if I swayed again and got another boy, I'd love him of course but I think I'd be bugging DH to have a 5th and in that case I'd be back at square one wanting to go HT.

I feel the same way. I was sure that I'd only go HT the next time, but now that I'm seeing it's not really a logical possibility for us, I'm back to "well, maybe I'll sway again". Haha, I'm an eternal optimist to a fault. I had a somewhat relaxed sway before. My first two boys were born from a total "boy" diet/lifestyle, before I even knew about swaying. Then the third, I was dabbling and not wanting to stress about it. Now I see some changes I could make to my sway (fully aware that it still may not work) - but still hopeful!