Outstanding October 2ww

[ABC.2606]

YAY for October BFPs!!

[Georgia_Peach]

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6dpo here.. currently in the 2ww

[ABC.2606]

Robin - yay!!!!!! When will you start testing? So excited for you! How many attempts did you end up getting in?

[Georgia_Peach]

Robin - yay!!!!!! When will you start testing? So excited for you! How many attempts did you end up getting in?I've been testing out trigger since 1 dat after I took it. It's not out of my system as of this morning but it's ALWAYS out by Tomorow 8dpt. We shall see [emoji1]

[ABC.2606]

Oh that's right - I remember you saying that you have to wait for the HCG to leave first. Eeek - fingers crossed!!!!

[Georgia_Peach]

Oh that's right - I remember you saying that you have to wait for the HCG to leave first. Eeek - fingers crossed!!!!Thank you!
Who else is waiting to test and in the 2ww?!

[ABC.2606]

Sadly not me! Still going through these fertility checks my doctor is ordered. I saw my doc today (for my annual appt) and he said I probably need either Clomid OR progesterone supplements to help my short LP, and he's leaning towards progesterone at this point. Hoping I can nudge him towards Clomid instead & get it for my next cycle which should start in less than 2 weeks from now. Really ready to start trying again - it's been over 5 weeks now since my m/c.

[Babybeaublue]

Robin so excited for you!!! Fx cant wait til u start testing. I should O in the next day or 2. I don't think it'll happen this month tho, more hopeful for next month.

ABC I know it's crap having to wait but if you want the Clomid can you not day the progesterone just didn't work? Or would the Dr make you try it for a few months?? Maybe just say you'd would be happier trying Clomid, see what he says. Can't hurt.

Hope you are well PBN xx

[Pbn3]

Gah I thought I'd subscribed to this thread to get notifications but I wasn't! I am now though!

Robin my gosh that's gone quick [emoji3][emoji3] cant wait to see how your tests go over the next few day fx fx fx!!!!!

Abc I think I finished replying in your other thread? Not sure as I was at work today so will go and check shortly [emoji3] I did want to ask is your ob having you do the progesterone bw on cd21? I can see by your temps that you still haven't oed.... have you been continuing with the opks since your pos one on cd10??

BBB I'm good thankyou! Your eod pattern is going nicely [emoji3] and your temps certainly look like they are bottoming out in preparation for o! Remind me again if you are using opks?



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[Georgia_Peach]

Sadly not me! Still going through these fertility checks my doctor is ordered. I saw my doc today (for my annual appt) and he said I probably need either Clomid OR progesterone supplements to help my short LP, and he's leaning towards progesterone at this point. Hoping I can nudge him towards Clomid instead & get it for my next cycle which should start in less than 2 weeks from now. Really ready to start trying again - it's been over 5 weeks now since my m/c.I am sorry ABC. I am praying you get answers soon so you can move on. I remember the limbo stage.. actually I still feel like I am in it. It's the worst place to be.

[ABC.2606]

Pbn he wants to check progesterone on Friday - which is cd17. I guess he normally tries to do it a week after first +opk.

Can you check my chart out again? What is UP with my temps? It went up slightly this morning but I don't think enough to confirm O. I got a +opk on Friday so I really should have o-ed by now!

When I had follicle u/s on Friday (day I got +opk), my follicle was 17mm. I read it usually is 18-24 before you ovulate so does that make sense that it's still taking awhile to see shift?

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[Samish]

Yayy!! everything crossed for you Robbin <3

@ABC: Hope this will be all alright soon for you hun

[YayBaby678]

FX for you Robin!! When do plan to start testing?

ABC - If he mentioned Clomid maybe he will be open to prescribing it now with the right amount of nudging. I'd definitely push for it. Hoping you get it all figured out soon. I have a short LP too and am taking progesterone after O. My doctor mentioned that after a few more months of trying he would be open to giving me Clomid but DH doesn't really want me to take it just for the sake of swaying so I'm honoring his wishes (for now).

BBB - you never know, this may be your month! Are you BD everyday or EOD?

So I'm 10 dpo today and I thought for sure my test was negative but then after some obsessive squinting, I felt like I could see a shadow of a line. I feel like I might be driving myself nuts though and it's nothing. Or maybe it's an evap, I did take the test after maybe like 7 minutes, so only a tiny bit out of the normal testing window. We'll see what tomorrow's test shows!

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[Pbn3]

Abc yep there's no indication temp wise as yet that o has happened. Were you still doing opks? I ask because multiple days of pos opks is another pcos tendency so I'm wondering whether your opks are pos for just the one or two days or longer? I'd be sure to let him know that cd17 is not going to be accurate as progesterone peaks 7-9 days after ovulation so prior to that you are going to have a lower reading by default. I'd be asking as well as cd17 if he wants you to go in 7 days after temp spike indicating o has occured for another reading.

Yaybaby I can see something too!!! Its not clear enough to say either way but I'd be cautiously excited [emoji3] can you do another one tonight to satisfy my poas addiction??!! [emoji23]

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[ABC.2606]

Pbn3 - I took one on Sunday that I think was negative... Haven't done any since then though, I probably should have continued testing. In the pregnancy that I miscarried recently I was using the digital dual hormone OPKs and had like 4/5 days of "high fertility" before I got the "peak" fertility - would that count as maybe indicating PCO tendency as well? Before that cycle when I was using the cheapie OPKs, I had a hard time getting one clearly positive OPK at all. The line was never as dark as the control line and I mostly only got negatives.

Honestly - I think I'm at the point where I'm ready to push hard for Clomid. My cycles are consistently 24 days w/O bet CD13-15. It just seems like I should ovulate earlier and that I should have that bit of a "push" my body needs to do so rather than messing w/ my total cycle length & LP w/ progesterone. And Atomic just is not convinced that the progesterone will do anything anyways.

Yaybaby I feel like I see a line too!! The pic is kinda small so hard to tell. Please post a pic when you take your next test!! Eeek!!!

[Pbn3]

Abc 4/5 days of high reading (flashing smiley) before peak is quite normal. Mine ranged between 2 - 5 days when I used them. Do you have any opks handy? Can you take one for curiosity sake? I'm worried by going in cd17 for your bw that you will of course get a low reading because you didnt o cd11 but surely he will take this into account????

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[ABC.2606]

Abc 4/5 days of high reading (flashing smiley) before peak is quite normal. Mine ranged between 2 - 5 days when I used them. Do you have any opks handy? Can you take one for curiosity sake? I'm worried by going in cd17 for your bw that you will of course get a low reading because you didnt o cd11 but surely he will take this into account????

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkDo you think if I get a temp rise tomorrow morning I should call him and say that I think I ovulated today and should I wait until next week for progesterone test?

I will take an opk tonight in a few hours. I expect it will be negative but we'll see!

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[Pbn3]

Yes I would call him! You can always get a blood draw both cd17 and in a week from now....

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[ABC.2606]

Yes I would call him! You can always get a blood draw both cd17 and in a week from now....

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkOk will do. Ugggh this cycle monitoring stuff is sooo stressful.

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[Momto3girls]

Hello everyone! I was here in July with an unsuccessful cycle and hubby decided that we should not try for another baby. We both really do want a number 4 but are trying to be realistic about how expensive kids are! And as it stands by the time we are 44 our youngest will be 18, so do we really want to extend that. We are so on the fence but so want a fourth. In saying all of that we had a moment of weakness 2 days ago, day 12. I never ovulate before day 18 so thought we were safe anyways. I had not been tracking anything. However after that event I decided to check my CP and sure enough it's high soft wet and closed. And still is. I took an opk tonight to see if I might be surging and it's almost there but not quite.. So I don't know if I'm about to surge or already have. So I don't know whether we should get bding in hopes we can still sway boy, or just wait and see if i surge tomorrow? Ahh I don't know what to do!


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[Pbn3]

Momto3girls hi and welcome back! Can you post a pic of your opk?

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[Momto3girls]

Momto3girls hi and welcome back! Can you post a pic of your opk?

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Thank you Pbn! Here it is [emoji4]

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[Pbn3]

Momto3girls that does look close... Can you attempt tonight to keep in with eod then add an extra attempt in tomorrow and the following day if its positive then? Otherwise simply continue with eod. Both sway blue :)

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[Momto3girls]

Momto3girls that does look close... Can you attempt tonight to keep in with eod then add an extra attempt in tomorrow and the following day if its positive then? Otherwise simply continue with eod. Both sway blue :)

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Really!? Ok that'll work! Thanks Pbn! You're a life saver!


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[Pbn3]

No worries! Keep us posted! Hope to see a pos opk pic in the next couple days [emoji3]

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[ABC.2606]

Welcome back, Momto3Girls!

[Babybeaublue]

One opk left and it was negative today. What should I do? I can't get any more yet!

[YayBaby678]

Welcome back Momto3Girls! I think you should keep BDing! Maybe continue EOD (or is everyday recommended for blue? I know we got our boys with several days of consecutive BD).

BBB - Why aren't you able to get any more opks? Maybe keep BDing EOD?

And I think I have the first October BFP!! Eeeeek. 11 DPO today and that squinter that I posted yesterday that I wasn't sure about was definitely a positive. I know that line from today's test below looks grayish in the photo but it was definitely pink and taken within 5 minutes. Praying my sway was good enough, I know I didn't do enough for the diet or do it long enough... I am shocked I got pregnant on our first month TTC, it took almost 6 months with each of my boys and our one attempt was 2 days before O day.

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[Georgia_Peach]

Welcome back Momto3Girls! I think you should keep BDing! Maybe continue EOD (or is everyday recommended for blue? I know we got our boys with several days of consecutive BD).

BBB - Why aren't you able to get any more opks? Maybe keep BDing EOD?

And I think I have the first October BFP!! Eeeeek. 11 DPO today and that squinter that I wasn't sure about yesterday was definitely a positive. I know that line from today's test looks grayish in the photo but it was definitely pink and taken within 5 minutes. Praying my sway was good enough, I know I didn't do enough for the diet or do it long enough... I am shocked I got pregnant on our first month TTC, it took almost 6 months with each of my boys and our one attempt was 2 days before O day.

37863Definitely. Congratulations to you.

[ABC.2606]

YayBaby - definitely positive!! Congrats!!

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[Babybeaublue]

Wow congratulations yaybaby!!!!!
I ordered some opks off Amazon, hopefully will get them tomorrow.

[ABC.2606]

So exciting we have our first BFP on this month's board!

BBB - are you going to keep BD-ing until you confirm O?

I finally ovulated yesterday it looks like - full 1 degree (Fahrenheit) rise this morning. Only about 3 weeks out now from our finally being ready to attempt again!! Need to get that Clomid first though! :)

[XXforhubby]

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[Pbn3]

BBB just continue with eod, it sways blue as well. Unless you're really hoping for multiple attempts at pos opk? If so then you'll have to purchase some opks from your local pharmacy or supermarket today especially seeing as you are on cd14 and right around the time when you oed last cycle..... how did the opk look? Was it close to pos? If it was a ways off then you might be right waiting till your IC's arrive hopefully tomorrow!

Yaybaby that is definately a bfp [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] congratulations!!!

Robin is the trigger gone? Cant wait for the next few days tests! How are you feeling?

Abc woohoo for o!!!! Will you ring your ob and let him know in case he wants you to change your prog bw day?

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[Momto3girls]

Thank you all for the warm welcomes!

Baby - Congrats on the BFP! It's a beaut!

As for me I am apparently still waiting to surge... Still not positive today, looks just like it did yesterday. Hubby is having performance issues, umm sorry tmi but he says it's too slippery lol

I wonder if I missed the surge some how? Or maybe my body started to surge and then didn't? I have been check cf and cp and it seemed the most fertile at cd 14. Today is day 16. I've never felt my cervix so high for so long. I am not surprised that my o has not happened yet but I'm surprised that I had so many fertile signs so early. Crazy body, figure it out...

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[Pbn3]

Momto3girls does that mean hubby couldn't release? I'd give it another go tonight if that's the case and maybe try something to slightly dry up cm like an antihistamine several hours before you plan on bding [emoji848] I know this used to be an old ink sway tactic but it hasn't been proven to help sway so I think Atomic has dropped it now. You don't want to completely dry up cm, just a bit so dh can see things through so maybe even try half a tablet and see how that goes? It is cm that causing the slipperyness and not preseed right? Try not and stress about your surge, it'll come and just think of it as an extra chance for another go at multiple attempts!!

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[Momto3girls]

Pbn - yes he couldn't release. We are going to try again tonight as it seems to be bit less slippery at the moment lol And no, no preseed, just lots of CM apparently.

Thank you for the optimism!

[ABC.2606]

Momto3girls - I don't know what kind of OPK that is you are using but when I used the IC OPKs I never got a line as dark as the control line - it seems like from others I've seen on here that's fairly common, not sure why though. I've switched to Clear Blue digital now - no guesswork.

[ABC.2606]

BBB just continue with eod, it sways blue as well. Unless you're really hoping for multiple attempts at pos opk? If so then you'll have to purchase some opks from your local pharmacy or supermarket today especially seeing as you are on cd14 and right around the time when you oed last cycle..... how did the opk look? Was it close to pos? If it was a ways off then you might be right waiting till your IC's arrive hopefully tomorrow!

Yaybaby that is definately a bfp [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] congratulations!!!

Robin is the trigger gone? Cant wait for the next few days tests! How are you feeling?

Abc woohoo for o!!!! Will you ring your ob and let him know in case he wants you to change your prog bw day?

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Pbn - Left him a message late today but he didn't call back so he'll probably call tomorrow morning. Since it seems pretty clear that I ovulated yesterday it's pointless to go in on Friday for test, right? That would only be 3dpo.

[Momto3girls]

Thank you ABC. They are just dollarstore tests. My last cycle using these I got a line that was close to positive, like this one, but it was the darkest it got. So yeah I've been there. I can feel ovulation pain starting so I must be surging or super close to. Honestly we hadn't intended on TTC lol so I wasn't prepared!

Edited to add this OPK from my last cycle. This was the darkest they ever got. So I think it's pretty close. I am also just realizing this is the 2ww thread...sorry I didn't mean to invade your space with my Pre-o drama!

[Pbn3]

Abc yes a reading for progesterone at 3dpo wont be accurate [emoji53] let us know what he says tomorrow morning.

Momto3girls can you try a different opk maybe? Ovuplan ones if you can get them are really good? Otherwise just keep doing eod if that's easier :)

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[Momto3girls]

I am not sure if I will get more or not. The only reason I have these is because they didn't get used last cycle. I have never heard of that brand of test. Not sure we have those up here in Canada. Thank you for the advice. We will continue doing eod and see what happens. Oh I wanted to ask what about eod makes it a boy sway? Is it just making sure there's are lots of sperm when the egg drops? Thanks again!


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[Pbn3]

Eod keeps dh's swimmers at maximum health so there's basically a fresh load ready plus whatevers left from the previous bd 48 hours prior. It also means you'll always end up with two attempts :) Eod just ensures you always have a fresh, healthy load waiting to meet that egg [emoji3]

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[Babybeaublue]

I agree the cheapie opks didn't work for me so I'm using clear blue smileys now. Should arrive today, and so much cheaper on Amazon!
Pbn I'm not too worried about multiple attempts, I had 4 days of pos opk when dd5 was conceived so loads of attempts but still turned out pink!

[Babybeaublue]

Had to pee without the opks. It's 2.40pm and they still haven't arrived. Couldn't wait any longer. :(

[ScienceGirl]

Congratulations on your 2ww! And good luck!

I am also in my 2ww but not I am optimistic because it was our 1st attempt TTC a girl. :pray::DD::pray:

[Momto3girls]

Good morning everyone!

We got in an attempt this morning. It was rather painful for me as my ovaries are so so sore! But that's ok because that means something is happening!

BabyBeau - I hope those OPKs get there soon!

ScienceGirl - FX for you!! How many DPO?

[YayBaby678]

ABC - Now that's a temperature spike! FX you can get that Clomid!

Momto3girls - I wonder if that's as dark as your opk will get. I've had months where the test line is super close but not quite as dark as the control line. I think BDing EOD is probably your best plan until you know for sure that you've O'd. It sounds like your attempt this morning will be super close to O. Sending lots of blue baby dust your way!

ScienceGirl - Congrats!! Sending pink dust your way!

Well maybe I got optimistic too soon with that BFP yesterday. Today my test is more faint and took longer to show up. I was nauseous yesterday but that's gone today and I'm super crampy. I know so many people say a line is a line but with my other loss, the test line got fainter each day so of course I'm assuming the worst at this point. Going in for a blood draw tomorrow morning. Here is a comparison of today's and yesterday's tests:

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[Babybeaublue]

Yaybaby were they both using fmu? Maybe your pee was more diluted? Really hope your blood test shows up good fx

Got a message from Amazon, parcel delayed could be another day or two. I don't understand why because according to tracking it's with the carrier in my city?!? I'm having no luck with deliveries recently. Had to laugh though, Dh said he'll just have to keep dtd every night to be sure(!)

[ScienceGirl]

Thank you Momto3girls and YayBaby678! Good luck to you both. These test strips can be so hard to read sometimes.
:pray: YayBaby678 did you have the strip in pee the same amount of time for both? Maybe that could effect it.

Our goal was to try 3 DPO but I am getting conflicting results with my testers. Usually OV is 3 days after I get a high fertility reading with the Clearblue easy monitor. So we DTD right after the surge. Then for the last 2 days I have gotten a clear LH surge on a differnt brand test strip, but clear blue just says high - no LH surge detected.
Also, it may be coincidence, but I am having a dull pain on my right side today. I had a similar pain on my left last month around OV. And before I started seriously tracking I used to notice this happening mid cycle.

What test strips do you all use? Also, did you ever feel like you are going quietly mad with trying to understand all the factors ?

[Babybeaublue]

Sciencegirl I feel like once I have something figured out, I come across something else I should or more importantly should not be doing!! I'm using clear blue smileys. I NEVER got a pos with any of the cheapies, or even shops own brand. The cheapies I used when TTC last time are no longer being sold which is typical lol

[ScienceGirl]

HI Babybeaublue

That is so interesting. I am about to run out of test strips so maybe I should switch to the CB smiley strips for the next round.
I am worried I will over think everything and end up swaying blue by accent. Haha

For your girls how ... did you get so lucky? What was your timing?

[Babybeaublue]

For the first 3 I think it was one time around O
Dd4 was an IG opposite (once at +opk) DD5 a GD opposite, with multiple bd at pos opk; so I'm not sure why I'm trying again lol!

[Pbn3]

Had to pee without the opks. It's 2.40pm and they still haven't arrived. Couldn't wait any longer. :(BBB if you're ever in this situation again, use a clean container or plastic throwaway cup etc and collect a sample. It can sit in your bathroom for several hours and still be used to test with :)

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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome sciencegirl!

Yaybaby wondfos are really not good for progression and can cause alot of unnecessary stress, especially when you've experienced a loss. It's great your going on for bw and I'm assuming you'll be doing 48hr bw? I'd stop testing with hpts and wait for the betas [emoji173]

Momto3girls yay for attempt!! Look forward to seeing if your opk goes fully pos or not. Will you add in extra attempts regardless or stick with eod?

BBB will you stick with eod? The other option is purchasing an opk pack from your pharmacy/supermarket. You may need to pay more than online though [emoji53]

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[ABC.2606]

Yaybaby were they both using fmu? Maybe your pee was more diluted? Really hope your blood test shows up good fx

Got a message from Amazon, parcel delayed could be another day or two. I don't understand why because according to tracking it's with the carrier in my city?!? I'm having no luck with deliveries recently. Had to laugh though, Dh said he'll just have to keep dtd every night to be sure(!)BBB I order a lot from Amazon & I've had more late deliveries lately - it's becoming more common. I think it's because they use all these contracted independent people now to deliver (not just UPS/USPS) and I've read that they are giving those people too many deliveries and they're not able to get them all done in a day. If you paid extra for rushed shipping you can ask for a refund on it.

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[ABC.2606]

FX momto3girls & sciencegirl!!!

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[ABC.2606]

Sigh - so doctor still wants me to come in tomorrow for progesterone test even though I called and told him that I'm sure I ovulated on Tuesday - I don't think he believes me since I got the +OPK last Friday, and I don't think he fully believes in the temperature charting method. He said he'd do another test on Tuesday if tomorrow's test looks "off" - which I'm guessing it will be since it will only be a couple of days past ovulation. I feel like I'm going to have to push really hard with him to get Clomid - he has already thrown the possibility of it out there but it feels like he's going to try to avoid prescribing it if he can.

[Pbn3]

Abc at least he's willing to redo the test if the results look 'off' which they will if you'll only be 3dpo so this inconsistency in pos opk and prog results from both days may just push him more towards clomid [emoji3]

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[ABC.2606]

Abc at least he's willing to redo the test if the results look 'off' which they will if you'll only be 3dpo so this inconsistency in pos opk and prog results from both days may just push him more towards clomid [emoji3]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI hope so Pbn!!!! :)

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[Momto3girls]

Congratulations on your 2ww! And good luck!

I am also in my 2ww but not I am optimistic because it was our 1st attempt TTC a girl. :pray::DD::pray:

All 3 of my girls were conceived on the first cycle, without even trying! Now that we are trying for a boy it's not happening right away! lol FX you get your BFP!




Momto3girls - I wonder if that's as dark as your opk will get. I've had months where the test line is super close but not quite as dark as the control line. I think BDing EOD is probably your best plan until you know for sure that you've O'd. It sounds like your attempt this morning will be super close to O. Sending lots of blue baby dust your way!

Well maybe I got optimistic too soon with that BFP yesterday. Today my test is more faint and took longer to show up. I was nauseous yesterday but that's gone today and I'm super crampy. I know so many people say a line is a line but with my other loss, the test line got fainter each day so of course I'm assuming the worst at this point. Going in for a blood draw tomorrow morning. Here is a comparison of today's and yesterday's tests:


I really hadn't planned on taking anymore OPKs. I am guessing O happened today as my ovaries don't hurt nearly as much as they did this morning. I guess we'll see! I am tracking my CP and CM, so if it's dry and CP is closed and firm, I can conclude that O happened.

My last pregnancy I took dollarstore tests every day for a few days and the tests were always light in the morning and super dark at night. So i'd get dark test, light test, dark test, light test. Don't give up hope! It definitely happens! FX for high betas!




Momto3girls yay for attempt!! Look forward to seeing if your opk goes fully pos or not. Will you add in extra attempts regardless or stick with eod?

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I am not planning on getting any more OPKs. I will monitor CP and CF and go off of that since that's what I started with. I am pretty sure O happened today as CF was pretty much non existant tonight. CP is still SHOW, so I will see what happens there tomorrow. :) We are getting as many attempts in as possible. lol I am not sure how helpful it is, but we are having fun! haha

[Babybeaublue]

That's great pbn thanks for the advice!

[Momto3girls]

As suspected I have non fertile CM this morning, it's at the lotiony stage. Sorry for the tmi. It's still high and soft, but I suspect that'll change today. Bring on the 2ww!


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[Pbn3]

Sounds like o has happened Momto3girls woohoo!!! My cm always did the same like clockwork!! So how many attempts did you end up with?

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[Babybeaublue]

Still waiting on my opks! Temps are up a tiny bit from yesterday, not sure what to make of them.

Momto3girls how long do you usually hold out before testing?!

[Pbn3]

BBB I don't think you've oed yet based on your temps. Maybe tomorrow you'll see a spike?

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[Babybeaublue]

I hope so. I have a wedding to go to tomorrow so no opks will be used lol

Do I need to keep the pee for opk in the fridge?(what a question lol)

[Babybeaublue]

Got a positive!!

[YayBaby678]

BBB - I had to laugh at your husband's enthusiasm. Glad he is willing to take one for the team and DTD every night ;)

ScienceGirl - What brand are you getting a clear LH surge the last few days from? Can you share your chart? I wonder if you ovulated yesterday or are going to today... I use Wondfo test strips for OPKs. And yes, I always feel like I'm going mad! Lol. So much overanalyzing! Which sways blue but I can't help it, its so hard not to. This time I wanted to try a cut off though since it is our first month TTC and I figured we likely wouldn't get pregnant, which would have been fine because we are about to be moving. So we DTD on the first day that the opk looked kind of darkish, but not yet positive. The next 2 days it was positive and my temp went up the day after that, so we ended up with one attempt and a 2-day cut off.

ABC - good luck with your testing! I hope everything works out in your favor and you can get your hands on some Clomid.

Momto3girls - I am so excited to hear that you got your 3 girls in the first month TTC! It took about 6 months with each of my boys. And it definitely sounds like you've O'd, maybe those tests just wouldn't get any darker than that. Welcome to the 2WW! FX that there's a blue bean that sticks!!!

So I had a blood draw today and my HCG is 102! Seems pretty good for 13 dpo. With DS2 it was 94 at 12 dpo but I got my first positive earlier with him so still comparable. My wondfo this morning was also a little bit darker and the line showed up right away. So I'm going to stop stressing for now :D I will have my next blood draw in a couple days. Here is a comparison of yesterday's and today's because I can't stop :poas:

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[Momto3girls]

Pbn we ended up with 3 attempts, 2 of those being on the same day and 1 being at the beginning of my fertile period. So we will see what happens. It's like clockwork for me too! It's nice to have these signs

I am the worst poaser so I am sure by I will be starting at 8 maybe 9 dpo if I can hold out that long lol
BBB I am so glad to see you've surged! That's super exciting!

Would I count today as 1 dpo? Eek so exciting!

[ABC.2606]

Yay so exciting we have more ladies in the tww! BBB yay for the surge! YayBaby that number sounds good & that line is great! Love it!!!!

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[Momto3girls]

So I had a blood draw today and my HCG is 102! Seems pretty good for 13 dpo. With DS2 it was 94 at 12 dpo but I got my first positive earlier with him so still comparable. My wondfo this morning was also a little bit darker and the line showed up right away. So I'm going to stop stressing for now :D I will have my next blood draw in a couple days. Here is a comparison of yesterday's and today's because I can't stop :poas:



I forgot to reply to you! That line is amazing!! Now.. STOP TESTING! Lol I know it's hard but for your sanity it's better to and let the blood tests tell you what's up! I am so happy for you! Congrats!

[Pbn3]

BBB awesome you got a pos opk [emoji3][emoji3] so happy for you! So you'll bd again tonight right? That'll be 3 attempts woohoo!!!!! All the starts have aligned perfectly! Now to see a temp spike Sunday morning!! Or even tomorrow morning will be just as awesome!

Yaybaby that's a beautiful line!! Look forward to hearing you bw results so you can relax some :)

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[Babybeaublue]

Temp down today, don't think we will get a pm attempt in as we are at a wedding today, over 70 miles away! Do you think we are ok with the attempts we have Had??

[Pbn3]

BBB you generally dont o until day after pos opk so wont see a spike until 2nd day following pos opk so that's totally normal. Can you get an attempt in before you leave for wedding?

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[Pbn3]

Aaaaand I just looked at your chart and you already have an AM bd marked in!!! That's plenty of attempts and congratulations on such a fabulous effort [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3] so excited for you!!!

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[Throwaway_panther]

Hi guys. My temp just dropped below coverline at either 10 or 12 DPO. :( I'm out. EVERYTHING this month pointed blue and DH will be out of town the next TWO months while I'm ovulating. I am so, so devastated.

[Pbn3]

I'm so sorry TP [emoji853] can you share a link to your chart or screenshot?

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[XXforhubby]

Temp down today, don't think we will get a pm attempt in as we are at a wedding today, over 70 miles away! Do you think we are ok with the attempts we have Had??

Can you link your chart to tapatalk for me? You are in a FAB shot for blue this month!!! This is the BDing pattern that got us our DS1! I’m hoping and praying that this is IT for you!! Hats off to your DH- he really stepped up this cycle!

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Hi guys. My temp just dropped below coverline at either 10 or 12 DPO. :( I'm out. EVERYTHING this month pointed blue and DH will be out of town the next TWO months while I'm ovulating. I am so, so devastated.

Noooooo!!! Could you link your chart in your signature in tapatalk for me? People who use the computer can still see it too. Thanks!!


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Thanks all :( I did have a super faintline throughout the day yesterday and then a BARELY darker one today which I'm attaching, and is pink. But the temp dip and how faint the lines are means impending chemical in my experience...
I'm attaching both charts, as depending on setting I'm either 10DPO or 12DPO. I DO think 10 is more accurate since my cycles are so consistently 30-31.

Test: http://i.imgur.com/pIgadn0.jpg

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks all :( I did have a super faintline throughout the day yesterday and then a BARELY darker one today which I'm attaching, and is pink. But the temp dip and how faint the lines are means impending chemical in my experience...
I'm attaching both charts, as depending on setting I'm either 10DPO or 12DPO. I DO think 10 is more accurate since my cycles are so consistently 30-31.

Test: http://i.imgur.com/pIgadn0.jpg

Charts: http://i.imgur.com/deLMdVx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gdfpVdm.jpgFX for you throwaway panther - I've followed some of your posts and I know you've been going through a lot - I'm sorry. Hugs!!

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[Pbn3]

TP I think you are 10dpo and honestly that dip below coverline could easily be implantation related. I know generally speaking an implantation dip is followed by a bfp a day or two later but not every human body responds in the same way. Some people dont even see a dip. Your hpt also looks exactly what I would expect for 10dpo on a wondfo. Can you arrange to go in for 48 hr betas? Looking at temps and hpt progression will do nothing but cause the worse emotional stress. You are far better off getting bloods done and knowing asap whether the pregnancy is viable at this stage. It will be accurate whereas temps/hpt progression may not be. Big hugs.

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[Pbn3]

Abc any news from your end? You went in for first bw yesterday or today right? When will you get the result? And you're still going in Tuesday? Cant wait for your results to see what your ob does! Your next cycle will be here before you know it!

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[Georgia_Peach]

Hey ladies!
I have tested the trigger out and I am still testing positive.. but it's not getting darker. The same thing happened last month (tested bfp 14dpo--negitive beta and ad arrived).I've had pregnancy symptoms during the 2ww...but I am not hopeful. I go for betas tomorow. I'll be 13dpo tomorow and really thought this was my month. 2 good size eggs and nailed ovulation and still nothing.
We've decided to move onto injectibles and IUI this next cycle... purely bc we can't afford 30k in ivf with PGD right now.
Super depressing to know that my sway that I've been doing for almost 2 years now, will be basically null and void with the IUI. I am beyond depressed I was given her and she was taken away.
Anyway...
Prob going to take a break from this site along with other social media for a while since so many things trigger me.

Good luck guys

[Pbn3]

Big hugs Robin and take all the time you need xxoo

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[Georgia_Peach]

Big hugs Robin and take all the time you need xxoo

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkThank you.
I just read it back and thought I sound super depressing.
Ugh.. not how I meant to come off but it's so terrible to go through this.

[Throwaway_panther]

Thanks guys. Any betas I could order wouldn't be able to be ordered until Monday anyway... when AF is due :nails:

I think I'm thrown off too because I had an early BFP with DD.

You've all calmed me down a bit. Should I just stop temping to not drive myself more crazy?

[Pbn3]

I agree with you though that this site and social media can trigger depressing feelings. I had a couple breaks from both last year and it did me the world of good. I came back feeling much stronger. It is a wonderful place for support but can be a double edged sword when you've been through losses, for yourself and those who conceived their dream gender then suffered a later loss I cant even imagine. So I think any posting you do in these 2ww threads is a major step and an achievement in itself xxoo

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[Pbn3]

Thanks guys. Any betas I could order wouldn't be able to be ordered until Monday anyway... when AF is due :nails:

I think I'm thrown off too because I had an early BFP with DD.

You've all calmed me down a bit. Should I just stop temping to not drive myself more crazy?One hunded times yes - Stop temping!! Will you go in Monday? Also wondfos aren't fantastic for seeing progression unless days apart.... if you're going to continue testing can you maybe get some frers?

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[ksmom]

Robin, just popping in to say having an IUI doesn't necessarily mean your sway is ruined. A couple years back I was on the TTC boards with another lady that was swaying blue but needed IUI to conceive and she had a girl! So obviously IUI doesn't always equal boy. I think you still have a good chance at pink again after swaying for so long plus you know you can conceive girls! Good luck to you.

[XXforhubby]

Thank you.
I just read it back and thought I sound super depressing.
Ugh.. not how I meant to come off but it's so terrible to go through this.

Sweetie with all you have endured, it’s completely understandable! Do what you have to do, and know we will always be here for you! I have never stopped praying for you, and I have added you to my Rosary group at church.

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Thanks guys. Any betas I could order wouldn't be able to be ordered until Monday anyway... when AF is due :nails:

I think I'm thrown off too because I had an early BFP with DD.

You've all calmed me down a bit. Should I just stop temping to not drive myself more crazy?

I would! Hang in there! I’m holding out hope for a BFP!

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Abc any news from your end? You went in for first bw yesterday or today right? When will you get the result? And you're still going in Tuesday? Cant wait for your results to see what your ob does! Your next cycle will be here before you know it!

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Hey Pbn! I'm ok - just feeling impatient with this testing stuff, waiting to see what doc will do and if I'll get Clomid, and waiting to start trying again. Bleh :) I did the bw yesterday (Friday) afternoon so I may not find out Monday, hopefully Tuesday. My guess is the doc will call me and say that my progesterone is low and we should try progesterone supplements, and then I'll explain to him again that I didn't ovulate until Tuesday, and then we'll see what he says and if he wants to do another blood draw.

I'm trying to brainstorm what my response will be if he doesn't offer Clomid - what is the best reasoning I can offer for why I want to try Clomid? I mean I know it's a treatment for short LP but I just feel like I need to have a response ready for why I'd rather go the Clomid route instead of progesterone. I don't want to sound like I've been playing Google doctor too much.

How are you feeling??

[ABC.2606]

Robin - I'm sorry... I too felt SO positive about this cycle for you!!! Take all the time you need - I'm sure even if you have to have an IUI you can still conceive another girl, especially with all the other sway tactics you are doing. Big hugs!! We're here whenever you need!

[Pbn3]

Abc I wouldn't try and think of a response just yet for when he rings... you may come across as too eager for clomid which may put him off [emoji53] however nothing to stop you from ringing a couple days after his call and say you're not satisfied and want to go into next cycle all guns blazing?? I think though better to just wait for now and see what your results are and whether you get bw 7 days after temp rise as well, and see what his recommendation is first, as he very well may prescribe the clomid.

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[ABC.2606]

Pbn - Ok, will try to hold off :) I just feel like he's going to call and be like "oh, it's just your progesterone that is low so we'll just give you some extra". What do you think about just really reinforcing the point again when he calls that it seems to be taking a LONG time between +OPK and when I actually ovulate? He said he doesn't fully believe in temperature charting b/c a lot of factors can affect it - which I get is true, but I have very consistent pre-O and post-O temps w/ a very distinct shift, so I'd say I'm identifying ovulation right. I just wonder if subtly continuing to push my concerns that there is something not right w/ my actual ovulation (which I think there may really be) might sway him more towards Clomid.

[Babybeaublue]

Robin I'm so sorry you are feeling down but it's understandable. Was convinced this was your month. It seems we are all having problems in one way or another. Wish I had a magic wand to wave over us all x

[frankie2017]

Hello. I just have a question not sure if this is the right spot to ask. I stuffed my cycle, was trying to avoid pregnancy as just started properly swaying, but looked at my chart and I had a high opk reading on Thursday and dtd today which is Sunday. Would it be possible to get pregnant from this distance after a high read thurs? FYI I missed the 'peak' I think, tested 24 hrs after Thursday arvo (so Friday arvo) and it was faint line. Unlikely right ? Feeling worried as as much as I want to be preggy I'd only just hit 'go' on the swaying.


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[Pbn3]

Frankie its definitely possible to ovulate a couple days after peak reading so while its a slim chance of conceiving on o day (if Sunday is in fact o day) there is still a small chance. Are you temping?

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[Throwaway_panther]

Robin -- I am so, so sorry.

Frankie -- It IS possible. Do you temp? My OPK was positive almost two days before my actual O this month. I've gotten pregnant before from whenI thought I was clear post-O (no temping then).

as for me, I didn't temp per your suggestions. I actually slept in and woke well rested for once, though I had a dream about starting my period...

My test is like a TAD darker today. Not as squinty, definitely pink, but waaay not as dark as I'd expect for
11DPO. I know you guys said Wondfos don't show as clear progression, but they did with at least three of my pregnancies :( I'm waiting on some ClearBlues from Amazon; I thought I had read the FRERs are bad for indent lines now??

[frankie2017]

Frankie its definitely possible to ovulate a couple days after peak reading so while its a slim chance of conceiving on o day (if Sunday is in fact o day) there is still a small chance. Are you temping?

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'Small' makes me feel better ! I'm not temping as I have been getting disturbed sleep or id move too much in the AM before I remember to temp so was feeling it wasn't reliable. If I temp from tomorrow morn will it tell me anything ? Confused about how it works :/


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[Pbn3]

TP that's great that you're showing 24 hour progression on wondfos. Honestly your test from yesterday looks a lot like 10dpo tests I've seen so many times before on this site. Usually there's a decent line by 16dpo. In regards to the frers you'd be past the chance of indent lines by now and should have a noticeable line. What type of CB's have you ordered?

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[Pbn3]

'Small' makes me feel better ! I'm not temping as I have been getting disturbed sleep or id move too much in the AM before I remember to temp so was feeling it wasn't reliable. If I temp from tomorrow morn will it tell me anything ? Confused about how it works :/


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNo there'd be no point in temping at this stage. Unfortunately you'll have a long nervous 2ww ahead of you [emoji853] So you got a 'high' reading Thursday morning, didn't do a fmu test Friday morning but the test stick was light when you tested Friday afternoon? Flashing smiley still? Do you monitor cm at all?

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[Throwaway_panther]

I'm getting the kind that say pregnant/not pregnant. I will probably try and get some FRERs too, but all of the pharmacies around here keep them locked behind the counter which I find annoying and embarassing lol

Thanks for listening to be spiral all. I am fighting off a panic attack at all times. I can't do another loss. I can't.

[XXforhubby]

🤞🏻so hard for you TP! I can’t wait to see what the other tests show! I’m glad you decided to stop temping-
I just don’t see the good that could come from it at this point.

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Good luck TP praying all the heartache is finally behind you and we get some good news on here!

[frankie2017]

No there'd be no point in temping at this stage. Unfortunately you'll have a long nervous 2ww ahead of you [emoji853] So you got a 'high' reading Thursday morning, didn't do a fmu test Friday morning but the test stick was light when you tested Friday afternoon? Flashing smiley still? Do you monitor cm at all?

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Correct. Cms been quite dry actually .
I think I'll be right. At least we'll be on holiday by a pool in 2 weeks so if it's an early slip up we'll have time to digest the idea.


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[Throwaway_panther]

I did take a midday FRER and a line came up really quickly but is still sooo faint D: I had a ton of creamy CM tonight so hoping that's a good sign, too?

[ABC.2606]

I did take a midday FRER and a line came up really quickly but is still sooo faint D: I had a ton of creamy CM tonight so hoping that's a good sign, too?Creamy cm was my first symptom with both my boys. FX so hard for you!!! Will you get betas done tomorrow?

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[Georgia_Peach]

I am praying for you tp.

I had lines with my frers but my beta today was negitive. Super depressing
But good luck to you!!!

[Pbn3]

I did take a midday FRER and a line came up really quickly but is still sooo faint D: I had a ton of creamy CM tonight so hoping that's a good sign, too?Creamy cm can be a really good sign! I have everything crossed for you! Can you post a pic of your midday frer and tomorrows fmu frer?

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[Pbn3]

Robin that's heartbreaking seeing a line [emoji174] if ots ok can you post a pic so others can what these false positives look like?

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[Throwaway_panther]

My Wondfo and FRER came up immediately this morning but look just as faint. A FRER "yes or no" test said no :( I opened up the test and there was a squinty second line, but I think this is a chemical like I suspected... By 12DPO I shouldn't still be squinting for these, especially when my LP is usually 11 days. Now I have to figure out if I should wait until 14 DPO to stop the progesterone.

My next step would be Femara, but everything I've read says I HAVE to wean DD then :(

[XXforhubby]

Oh no TP! I’m so sorry this is happening again [emoji22]! I would wait until 14dpo to stop the progesterone in case you are pregnant with a slow implanter like my DS2.

You don’t have to wean your DD on Femara!! I know 3 people IRL that nursed while on it. 2 had older babies- 10-16mo and one that had a 6 or 7mo old. They were told it has a much shorter half life compared to Clomid and it doesn’t go into the milk in a large enough amount to be concerned. Let me dig around and ask my former boss and friend (he’s a Pharmacist).


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Ok. My friend who is a Pharmacist said to take Clomid instead, since your milk supply is already well established. Femara works by increasing estrogen amounts in you and also your baby, since it goes into the breast milk in an unknown amount. It has a half life of 48hrs and the risks to your nursling would be impaired bone growth or his/her estrogen receptors in their body. He said according to Dr. Hale at InfantRisk, it’s likely to enter breast milk in a low amount, however there is no amount that would be considered safe for a nursling.

I must have remembered incorrectly about a few acquaintances, but I thought they did take Femara. Maybe they weaned for the 10 day period until Femara clears your body and then resumed Breastfeeding. My Pharmacist said that would be the only way to continue to breastfeed and take Femara.

Let me know if you want to have him dig around some more. He’s off work today [emoji6].


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TP still hoping and praying for you.

I'm 38 today :( never did I think I'd still be TTC at 38. I always said 34/35 was my cut off point. Guess not.

[XXforhubby]

TP still hoping and praying for you.

I'm 38 today [emoji20] never did I think I'd still be TTC at 38. I always said 34/35 was my cut off point. Guess not.

(((Huge Hugs))) BBB! I just turned 38 last month and recently had our 4th and last child. I know what you mean-it’s hard when something you want so badly seems to elude you no matter what you do or how hard you try. We thought the same but didn’t foresee it taking a year or more each time for the last two kiddos we have had.

I’m hoping and praying you get your much deserved and long awaited BFP soon! We will always be here for you!


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Thank you so much XX. Sometimes it feels like everyone else is so much younger on here and I'm an old maid lol :sigh:

[ABC.2606]

TP - I'm sorry :( Still holding out hope for you that like XX said maybe you have a late implanter.

BBB - Hang in there!!

My doctor called this morning and left a message. My progesterone came back at 10 which he said is encouraging as it should be 10 or above. I was only 3 dpo when I had the blood draw, according to my temping, but he thinks I was a week dpo based on +OPK. Is 10 a good result - regardless of when I actually O-d? Is it a really good result for only 3 dpo?

Sigh - so every test has come back as normal so I feel like my hopes for Clomid have been dashed. He wants me to call him on the day I start my period so that he can assess whether he did the blood draw at the right time. I'll probably start by Saturday if I have my normal 10 day LP.

[sunstars]

Ok, I was reading almost all the posts for two months now while ttc and always wanted to "join" your wonderful group, hopefully with bfp, but it didn't and won't happen in the nearest month, and here I can't miss such a great opportunity to jump in :) Well, I'm 38 as well, have two boys (2013, 2015) and two twin angel girls (2016), and would like to have another girl or two.

[Babybeaublue]

Yey! Welcome sunstars! Are you charting? We all love a chart to stalk lol

ABC all that waiting is such a stress. If you have a short L.p. will he not still consider Clomid?

[sunstars]

Thank you BBB. No, I don't chart, I only used OPks last two months, and probably at least last time incorrectly (waited to get as dark line as test one, and most
likely was too late with "attempt"). I guess I was just lucky to get pregnant after 2-3 cycle of trying (just BD without restriction and protection and stress) with boys, and by accident with my girls. This month my husband is out of town, so not even 2ww for me, we BD on cd6, while I twice got positive OPKs on cd11.

[Babybeaublue]

I know, It only ever took me 1-2 cycles with all 5 of mine. Dh says bd is like a job now, which I can agree with but I didn't really need to hear it :(

[Mommy2apples]

I feel you bbb it is always a struggle to get dh to do anything too. I want to get in at least 4 more bds and then he can do whatever afterwards. I just need and pray this is our cycle.


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[Shannshaff]

Praying for all of you to get your BFPs real soon!!!
And I feel like the old maid on here - I am 41

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[sunstars]

DH isn't complaining yet (he also wants a girl a lot), and it's only 2 (well and half) cycles of ttc. But I'm getting nervous already. 2ww and getting bfns is so stressful. I can't even imagine the pain of those who take long time to concieve. I hope everyone would get their bfps and healthy babies soon.

[Mommy2apples]

Thanks sunstars, agree my dh didn't complain at first either, now after 5 months it's became a chore to him. I try to make it enjoyable, but he still complains about it.


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[Throwaway_panther]

Ok. My friend who is a Pharmacist said to take Clomid instead, since your milk supply is already well established. Femara works by increasing estrogen amounts in you and also your baby, since it goes into the breast milk in an unknown amount. It has a half life of 48hrs and the risks to your nursling would be impaired bone growth or his/her estrogen receptors in their body. He said according to Dr. Hale at InfantRisk, it’s likely to enter breast milk in a low amount, however there is no amount that would be considered safe for a nursling.

I must have remembered incorrectly about a few acquaintances, but I thought they did take Femara. Maybe they weaned for the 10 day period until Femara clears your body and then resumed Breastfeeding. My Pharmacist said that would be the only way to continue to breastfeed and take Femara.

Let me know if you want to have him dig around some more. He’s off work today [emoji6].


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Thank you for digging around for me! Yeah, I know nursing is out for Femara. I thought Clomid is less available now and has more side effects, so I figured that's why she only does the Femara?

For what it's worth, my acupuncturist today said I had a slippery pulse and said I felt pregnant and fully treated me AS pregnant with certain points.

Frustrated because I called my RE first thing but haven't heard back at all :(

XX and any other late implanters -- did you really have such faint lines for this long? AM I just testing too early? I mean, today is my normal AF day at 12DPO so there should be a little more than this, shouldn't there?

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(Second one/Wondfo is midday)

[Georgia_Peach]

Robin that's heartbreaking seeing a line [emoji174] if ots ok can you post a pic so others can what these false positives look like?

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[Throwaway_panther]

This was the day before I went in for beta 11dpo. Negitive beta (less than 5)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171009/e69ce3f7b3f4d615d9bd33dafc66dd5b.jpg

Are you sure that's a false positive and just not too early? It's really rare for false positives, although I know indent lines are supposedly more common with the newer FRER?

[ABC.2606]

Yey! Welcome sunstars! Are you charting? We all love a chart to stalk lol

ABC all that waiting is such a stress. If you have a short L.p. will he not still consider Clomid?

I don't know, maybe. I feel like I need to just call him this week and ask directly - stress again my concerns w/ my ovulation and LP, and ask if I could try Clomid. I think I'm getting a bit over obsessed at this point about Clomid - and I know obsessing about things is the exact opposite of what I need for my girl sway :( But I waited out this whole cycle thinking I was going to get it and I thought I was so close to getting to it, now I feel really bummed. We'll see.

[ABC.2606]

Robin - Did AF start? Are you still testing?

[Throwaway_panther]

I just read a Babycenter thread where everyone said no good BFP after 12dpo usually means loss. This rollercoaster this cycle is awful

[Georgia_Peach]

Robin - Did AF start? Are you still testing?It's due tomorow. They told me beta results at 12dpo should show something if you are pregnant not negitive.
[emoji22]

[ABC.2606]

It's due tomorow. They told me beta results at 12dpo should show something if you are pregnant not negitive.
[emoji22]Ugh - sorry Robin. This isn't fair - it really felt like your cycle

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[Momto3girls]

I am so anxious for everyone in the 2ww!
Robin I am sorry it's not turning out the way it should be :(

Tp for some reason I can't see your pictures but fx you are pregnant with a sticky bean!

Welcome to all the new arrivals!

I just realized that medications I am currently taking sway girl... I am hoping that because I only just started them the week of my fertile period that they won't affect anything! I am only 4 dpo and feel like this next week is going to take so long to get through. I am going to try to wait until at least Saturday to poas.. We will see how long I can hold out!

Good luck to everyone!

What are you all doing to pass the time?


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[Babybeaublue]

Well the 2nd lot of hcg never arrived. Dh hasn't had any in over a week. Feel like I'm having to start all over again as he will probably have another test shot soon. I just cannot get my hands on any it's so frustrating :(

TP I don't want to give up hope for you!!
Robin I was sure sure this was it for you too! And with a possibility of twins as well! :( it's not fair that it's so hard for so many of us.

ABC I think stress that u have no control over sways girl. Its more the organising and having to get lots of shit done kind of stress that sways blue. Speak ur mind to your Dr. My Dh always says if you don't ask you don't get.

[ScienceGirl]

I am so anxious for everyone in the 2ww!
Robin I am sorry it's not turning out the way it should be :(

Tp for some reason I can't see your pictures but fx you are pregnant with a sticky bean!

Welcome to all the new arrivals!

I just realized that medications I am currently taking sway girl... I am hoping that because I only just started them the week of my fertile period that they won't affect anything! I am only 4 dpo and feel like this next week is going to take so long to get through. I am going to try to wait until at least Saturday to poas.. We will see how long I can hold out!

Good luck to everyone!

What are you all doing to pass the time?


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Good question. I am diving into the forums and trying to see how I can have a better LE diet before the next attempt. What are you focusing on during your 2ww?

[Momto3girls]

Good question. I am diving into the forums and trying to see how I can have a better LE diet before the next attempt. What are you focusing on during your 2ww?

I am jumping all over the WWW... I wish this board was more active! I usually just google stuff, usually just 2ww info. Follow people through their 2ww and what symptoms they had. Then of course I spend the day symptom spotting in hopes that I will feel something! lol

[Pbn3]

TP this sucks I was soooo hopeful for you and Robin wow I would've thought for sure that you'd have gotten a positive bw result [emoji174] I've rarely seen such clear lines on an frer that resulted in not pregnant, only a couple of times. I've seen less clearer ones of course the dreaded frer fake line I used to call it... Robin did af arrive today? TP did you end up getting bw done?

Abc I would've called 10 on the low side especially if he thinks it was at 7dpo however would seem in a good range for 3dpo?By 7dpo it probably would've peaked at a more normal range, I'm surprised he's not listening more, it must be so frustrating!!!! Can you ring on Friday morning and say you've started spotting maybe?

BBB your chart looks amazing attempt wise! Really hope all your hard work ends in a bfp this cycle so you won't have to worry about the hcg for dh [emoji46] I'm looing forward to stalking your chart! Oh and I'm 39 so if your an old maid then I'm your older sister [emoji23]

Hi and welcome sunstars! Just to clarify your comment about opks and thinking you may have been too late with attempt last cycle, you are meant to wait until you test line is as dark as or darker than control line as 'generally' lh peaks and gives you a pos opk 12-48 hours prior to o. Sorry to hear this cycle is out with dh being away but look forward to next cycle [emoji3]

Hi Momto3girls! Can you remind again if you chart? I have a feeling you dont but if you do can you post a link? Look forward to your test on Saturday fx fx fx!! How did you go attempt wise? Was it two attempts?

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[ABC.2606]

ScienceGirl & Momto3Girls - I forget, are you both in the tww right now? If so please let us know how many dpo you're at & when you'll start testing!!!

BBB - Sorry about the hcg - like Pbn said hopefully this is your cycle and you wont have to worry about it anymore!!

Pbn & BBB - I'm going to call doc this week as soon as I work up enough courage and press him again on this and maybe ask directly for Clomid. He has already mentioned the medication to me so it's kind of like well, he already put the thought in my head!! Pbn - I really think I ovulated on CD14 so that progesterone test would have been 3dpo, which I guess means it's a pretty decent result. Atomic said on my other thread she thinks my problem may actually be low estrogen - I wonder if that would explain why I ovulate so late in a 24 day cycle and why there is such a big gap between LH surge and O? Ugh - I don't know - I just know that I'm going to feel a lot less confident about our sway if we attempt this next cycle w/o Clomid. I didn't feel that way late this summer when we started ttc & when we conceived my angel baby in August, but now that there has been all this build up I feel like I have to have it!!

[Pbn3]

Abc I can understand that. At the end of the day it cant hurt to ask for the clomid, he'll can only say yes or no at this point. I'd even put it to him to let you try it for three cycles first before anything because you've read such positive experiences about it online [emoji6] and hey its not lying!

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[ABC.2606]

Exactly Pbn3! I have friends who've had great experiences with it - my GD friends!! :) :) :) :)

[Throwaway_panther]

TP this sucks I was soooo hopeful for you and Robin wow I would've thought for sure that you'd have gotten a positive bw result [emoji174] I've rarely seen such clear lines on an frer that resulted in not pregnant, only a couple of times. I've seen less clearer ones of course the dreaded frer fake line I used to call it... Robin did af arrive today? TP did you end up getting bw done?

Abc I would've called 10 on the low side especially if he thinks it was at 7dpo however would seem in a good range for 3dpo?By 7dpo it probably would've peaked at a more normal range, I'm surprised he's not listening more, it must be so frustrating!!!! Can you ring on Friday morning and say you've started spotting maybe?

BBB your chart looks amazing attempt wise! Really hope all your hard work ends in a bfp this cycle so you won't have to worry about the hcg for dh [emoji46] I'm looing forward to stalking your chart! Oh and I'm 39 so if your an old maid then I'm your older sister [emoji23]

Hi and welcome sunstars! Just to clarify your comment about opks and thinking you may have been too late with attempt last cycle, you are meant to wait until you test line is as dark as or darker than control line as 'generally' lh peaks and gives you a pos opk 12-48 hours prior to o. Sorry to hear this cycle is out with dh being away but look forward to next cycle [emoji3]

Hi Momto3girls! Can you remind again if you chart? I have a feeling you dont but if you do can you post a link? Look forward to your test on Saturday fx fx fx!! How did you go attempt wise? Was it two attempts?

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Thank you :( I had definitely gotten my hopes up with three days of positives, progesterone, my acupuncturist's comments... I thought this one would finally stick.

My RE said not to bother with bloodwork, to stop prog, and come in for a beta on CD1 since I have to take one for Femara anyway. So she's not thinking anything good would come from this. I've been off prog for 24 hours so we'll see how soon I start passing this.

[Pbn3]

TP, I hope cd1 rolls around quick for you then but I hope more that this somehow works out [emoji853]

Abc can you email your ob a screenshot of your chart? Even if he doesn't buy into temping (which I find odd) your chart clearly shows a sustained shift in body temperature 4 days after your pos opk. Surely he's willing to at least concede its possible you are ovulating well after pos opk, and that something happened cd14 that has affected your bbt since that day (hmmmm like ovulation [emoji848][emoji23]).... Email your chart and tell him you'll be ringing the next day for some answers to improve next cycles chances....

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[Throwaway_panther]

Any thoughts on this chart? This temp is throwing me. Wondfo was faint again today. Blew through my FRERs though

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[Momto3girls]

I am 6 dpo today... Woke up feeling like crap! My hips and lower back feel like they are on fire and I was having waves of nausea, that has seemed to calm down now. I also have this dull ache on the right side of my lower abdomen.. Symptom spotting galore, but I never feel like this in the 2ww.... So I guess we will see come Saturday..

Pbn no I don't chart sorry! We got 3 attempts, though 1 was the very first day of my fertile period which was cd 13, and then on O day, cd 17, we got in 2 attempts. Not sure if that first attempt will help at all but it's in there lol.


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[Momto3girls]

Tp could you have maybe o'ed two eggs and one is trying to implant, hence the dip? And maybe the first one didn't hang on? I am grasping at straws here and I could be totally wrong! But I am hopeful that you will have a sticky bean! Can you post your most recent test?


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[ScienceGirl]

Momto3girls haha. I am so with you on the Googling. Your symptoms sound spot on! FX for you. Are you testing this Saturday? Also, have you been having nightmares? I have been having them the last few days. That and some very mild lower back pain are my only symptoms :rolleyes: and those are probably pretty generic.

ABC I am about 5/6 dpo. The uncertainty is because my CM seemed like Ov was Friday but based on CBM and Ov pains I think it was Thursday. We DTD once on Tuesday, and it was our 1st month trying. So, I just keep reminding myself that it is highly unlikely we got pregnant on the 1st go... then I google statistics on conception for awhile. Haha :wink:

I think I will probably test next Thursday or Friday if AF hasn't come. Trouble is that I will be at my ILs house all weekend and can't test there. (Wouldn't want them to find out we are trying and get their hopes up).

[sunstars]

Thank you, pbn! With OPKs I had almost positive (a little lighter) on cd11, and then 24 hours later very light on cd12, so we bd a few hours after this light one.
The month before that I had again almost as dark on cd11 (lighter on cd10), and we bd twice during two hours, once with protection, then actual attempt. But DH was so stressed at work at that time, almost haven't slept properly for a week or two, then hot shower, then j&d in 7 minutes, so I guess it was too much :)
Oh, and I must say I also hardly tolerate 2ww, noticing symptoms, getting 90% sure, reading all over www, aaah.

[ScienceGirl]

On a side note, I finally broke free from a 3 week weight plateau and lost 0.6 lbs since last week. Guessing weightloss is also not an early sign of pregnancy? Haha...sigh...

[ScienceGirl]

Sunstars are you DTD once as part of your sway?

[sunstars]

Yes, ScienceGirl, one actual attempt at pos opk (if I track it right :))

[Momto3girls]

Science girl- yes I will be testing Saturday for sure, if I manage to not do it sooner! I swear everything is an early pregnancy symptom! My toe has been super itchy today! I must be pregnant because that never happens! Nah I'm not that crazy lol I haven't really been having dreams actually. I've been sleeping terribly... I have read that vivid dreams are a pregnancy thing though! If you test before you go it should be accurate ;) don't leave us hanging!



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[Momto3girls]

Welcome to the club sun stars! Where we can find anything and make it a pregnancy symptom! Haha! Are you swaying girl? GL!


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[ScienceGirl]

Sunstars - me too! FX that monitor was right. Is that a different approach from the one you used for your 2 boys?

Momto3girls - haha! Was it your left or right toe? Which one itches if it is a girl :wink: Honestly I don't know when to test. Part of me wants to wait until next Thursday to see is AF comes. But I may not make it that long. How early can the tests pick up HCG?

[Momto3girls]

Science girl- I would say anywhere around 10dpo .. That's always shown positives for me. I've gotten super faints at 9 dpo too, which is why I am starting then... Hopefully lol


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[ScienceGirl]

Momto3girls - hmm in that case I will join you and test Saturday too. Eek! So nervous. Are you going to tell your DH that you are starting to test or wait to see of you get a BFP 1st?

This is so strange. The last time I had to take a pregnancy test was over 10 years ago when I was dating my now DH. Back then we were SO excited to get a BFN. Haha Now we are crossing our fingers and toes for a BFP. :babyf:

[Momto3girls]

Nope I won't tell DH until it's positive. I am trying to come up with a fun way to tell him :) you?

FX it's positive for You and pink! I am so excited, anxious, worried!


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[ScienceGirl]

Thanks! FX for you too.

I won't tell him until it is clearly a BFP or BFN. Although, he will probably start asking questions at some point.

It would be so fun to surprise DH with a BFP. "Ideas for telling DH I am pregnant" sounds like something new that can be googled :wink:

How did you tell your DH about your other BFP?

[Throwaway_panther]

Tp could you have maybe o'ed two eggs and one is trying to implant, hence the dip? And maybe the first one didn't hang on? I am grasping at straws here and I could be totally wrong! But I am hopeful that you will have a sticky bean! Can you post your most recent test?


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I started bleeding so I'm losing it :( I might take a break from here for awhile. It's so painful to not stay pregnant.

[Georgia_Peach]

Tp.. .I am so sorry.
It's cd1 for me today too. This is so hard!

[Babybeaublue]

Oh no no no... TP I am so so sorry xxx hugs and love to you :(

Robin sending hugs to you too xx I was sure you would be lucky for sure this cycle.
What a shit day...

[Mommy2apples]

Hugs Robin and tp


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[ScienceGirl]

So sorry TP. Sending hugs and prayers your way. My Mom always said that the right man will show up when you aren't looking for him. Maybe the same principle applies for baby boys too. Maybe your little man is waiting for the perfect time to surprise you.

I am so sorry TP.

[ScienceGirl]

Hugs to you too Robin!

[Mommy2apples]

Sorry I haven't been active in here, was just so down the last two cycles... but this cycle I feel so excited and hopeful! I really hope this cycle coming is all of our cycles! So many hugs to all of you!
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[ScienceGirl]

Good Luck M2A! When will you test?

[Mommy2apples]

Not sure yet sciencegirl! Maybe 12dpo. Thank you!


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[Momto3girls]

So sorry to hear TP and Robin ... I was so hopeful for you :(

Science girl- I am not going to google that until I have a BFP because I will just get my hopes up.. I've already been thinking about how I am going to break it to my girls and I have to stop myself because what if it doesn't happen!

Mommy- I saw your test strips on another board and was so excited for you! It looks so great! Fx that you get your BFP!! Sending you all my girly dust!


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[Mommy2apples]

Thanks Momto3girls!! So excited for you to get your bfp as well!! You can definitely have all my blue dust!


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[Momto3girls]

Thank you! I need all the help I can get!


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[Mommy2apples]

Welcome!


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[ScienceGirl]

OMG did you all know today is International Day of the Girl Child? Never heard of it before but I sure hope all of us TTC a girl are celebrating it next year!

[Mommy2apples]

That would be perfect sciencegirl!


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[Momto3girls]

Nope I've never heard of it before! My poor girls lol


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[Momto3girls]

Is there a day for a boy child?


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[Mommy2apples]

Looked in google and I didn't see anything Momto3girls


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Well that's a little ridiculous...


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I agree


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[ScienceGirl]

It is probably something created because for a long time a girl child was a disappointment (crazy in my opinion).

[Momto3girls]

Yes that's crazy too, but it's not ok to have one for the girls and none for the boys..


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[Pbn3]

Good luck and fx Momto3girls and sciencegirl!! Sciencegirl if your going to start testing early then frers, OSOMS and wondfos are best sensitivity wise :)

Sunstars what is your approx dpo? Also what opks are you using that you're not getting a proper pos? You may want to consider trying clearblue dual hormone digis if this cycle isn't successful as you may be missing your surge. Otherwise I'd consider e4d for a few cycles as because you're not temping or getting a proper pos opk there's no way to tell what day you're actually ovulating and you may be completely missing your window by having just one attempt at nearly pos opk [emoji853] Of course you may have completely nailed it this cycle and are just awaiting your bfp which I really hope is the case [emoji3]

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[Pbn3]

TP I'm so very sorry [emoji853] take some time to regroup and come back when you're ready [emoji174]

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[Pbn3]

Robin like everyone else I was so hopeful this cycle [emoji174] did you say it was onto IUI this cycle? Can you ask to try one more monitored cycle if that's wht you'd prefer or are you ready to give the IUI a go? Also the frers have been terrible for you last two cycles, can you order some wondfos instead?

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[Georgia_Peach]

Robin like everyone else I was so hopeful this cycle [emoji174] did you say it was onto IUI this cycle? Can you ask to try one more monitored cycle if that's wht you'd prefer or are you ready to give the IUI a go? Also the frers have been terrible for you last two cycles, can you order some wondfos instead?

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I am doing iui with injectibles this cycle. Dr hopes to get 3 eggs released this month. If it doesn't work i might take a month off since it will be my daughter's due date and I'll be devastated if not pregs by then.

[Mommy2apples]

Pbn it didn't work on reloaded tapatalk! Will you shoot me an email real fast?
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[Pbn3]

Just done mommy2apples [emoji3]

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[Mommy2apples]

Thanks pbn! Sent back!


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[Momto3girls]

Is it Saturday yet?


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[frankie2017]

What would everyone say are 2WW symptoms of pregnancy? What have you experienced?

I don't know if I'm over thinking it but AF not due til next Thurs ish and I'm feeling lots going on in the ovary area - particularly right side. Plus today I'm so extraordinarily cranky. My cycles are whack tho, maybe I'm getting an early af in the next few days instead.... hmmm



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[sunstars]

So sorry for you TP and Robin. Sending you hugs, patience and strength.
Robin, I'm with you, the next month is also the first anniversary of birth of my now angel twin girls, I was so sure I'll be pregnant by then and there will be some bright things to concentrate on. FX things will work out for you this month.
Pbn, I could find here only one type so far, I suppose you call them Internet cheapies, we don't have the brands like you mention. I will try to look more. My cycle is pretty regular past year 25-27 days (mostrly 25), and if not BF it was always 25-30. This month I even didn't track and won't test, since we could BF only on cd6, which is way too early for any chances of getting bfp. DH will be back just in time for one attempt on my supposed days LH surge for next cycle, but if it won't work that month either I may try ed4, thanks.
ScienceGirl, I didn't really stress, track symptoms, or test prior with my boys, we just went unprotected, and it took 2-3 cycles with both (the second one while BF). And with my identical twin girls, it was just accident, my cycles where around and over 35 days while breastfeeding my DS2, and it happened on cd11, so I thought no way I'll become pregnant just with one attempt so far away from possible ovulation day.
Anyway I'm still looking forward to next months and we do want one (or two) girls, well, we always wanted girls first.

[Georgia_Peach]

What would everyone say are 2WW symptoms of pregnancy? What have you experienced?

I don't know if I'm over thinking it but AF not due til next Thurs ish and I'm feeling lots going on in the ovary area - particularly right side. Plus today I'm so extraordinarily cranky. My cycles are whack tho, maybe I'm getting an early af in the next few days instead.... hmmm



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Tender breasts
Nausea (like bad) from 6dpo on
Weird dreams
Food aversions
Peeing freq
Dip on 6dpo on FF followed with a rise in temp
Cramping
Overy pressure/pain on the side I ovulated 2 eggs on. Dr said it's cysts that are common that women get

And I was NOT pregnant.
I have no idea why our body's/minds trick us like that sometimes.
2ww is tough.
Hopefully though your symptoms ate real!!!! [emoji1]

[Georgia_Peach]

So sorry for you TP and Robin. Sending you hugs, patience and strength.
Robin, I'm with you, the next month is also the first anniversary of birth of my now angel twin girls, I was so sure I'll be pregnant by then and there will be some bright things to concentrate on. FX things will work out for you this month.
Pbn, I could find here only one type so far, I suppose you call them Internet cheapies, we don't have the brands like you mention. I will try to look more. My cycle is pretty regular past year 25-27 days (mostrly 25), and if not BF it was always 25-30. This month I even didn't track and won't test, since we could BF only on cd6, which is way too early for any chances of getting bfp. DH will be back just in time for one attempt on my supposed days LH surge for next cycle, but if it won't work that month either I may try ed4, thanks.
ScienceGirl, I didn't really stress, track symptoms, or test prior with my boys, we just went unprotected, and it took 2-3 cycles with both (the second one while BF). And with my identical twin girls, it was just accident, my cycles where around and over 35 days while breastfeeding my DS2, and it happened on cd11, so I thought no way I'll become pregnant just with one attempt so far away from possible ovulation day.
Anyway I'm still looking forward to next months and we do want one (or two) girls, well, we always wanted girls first.Awe I am so sorry you went through that too. It's the worst thing ever to loose a baby you wanted so bad.
Did you conceive your girls naturally? Or do twins run in your family? How wonderful to have twins!

[sunstars]

Robin, yeah, that is really awful thing, but I really hope you and I will have more girls to cherish and nurture.
Having twins was a complete surprise to me, none of my close relatives have them, but mine were identical, and so far they say everyone has an equal chance of conceiving them naturally. Having twins is wonderful, but there are so many more possible complications during pregnancy, which makes them even more special.

[Momto3girls]

A little sad right now... I just realized that all these symptoms I've been having can all be explained by the side effect of this stupid med that I'm taking! I am so discouraged now... (sorry to post and run but I have to go back to work)

[Bluedreaming]

I don't know if I should be sad or happy for my af after d&c nearly a month ago. Sad because he's no longer with us and happy because after my next cycle next month we can start trying again


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[frankie2017]

Last month I had
Tender breasts
Nausea (like bad) from 6dpo on
Weird dreams
Food aversions
Peeing freq
Dip on 6dpo on FF followed with a rise in temp
Cramping
Overy pressure/pain on the side I ovulated 2 eggs on. Dr said it's cysts that are common that women get

And I was NOT pregnant.
I have no idea why our body's/minds trick us like that sometimes.
2ww is tough.
Hopefully though your symptoms ate real!!!! [emoji1]

Wow yes crazy our bodies trick us. Sorry to hear it wasn't a pregnancy for you. I somehow doubt my feelings are too we werent trying this month but now I know we were very close to O I can't get it out of my head! I'll see next week.


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[frankie2017]

Thanks! FX for you too.

I won't tell him until it is clearly a BFP or BFN. Although, he will probably start asking questions at some point.

It would be so fun to surprise DH with a BFP. "Ideas for telling DH I am pregnant" sounds like something new that can be googled :wink:

How did you tell your DH about your other BFP?

We will be on holiday on the Gold Coast next week, I'm telling my DH he can't expect AF to be joining us (which he will hate!) then if she does not I'm hoping he'll figure it out.[emoji23]. I really have no idea which way this will go though. I know we cut it fine with when I O'd.


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[ABC.2606]

Ugh I'm getting nowhere with my doctor. So frustrating. :( :( Maybe we should have just tried this cycle without Clomid - this feels like a waste of time.

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[Pbn3]

Abc what's the latest? Did you email him a copy of your chart as per my last post?

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[Pbn3]

And I know its hard but you had no idea he'd be this stubborn regarding clomid when many others would have already prescribed it [emoji53] also what if you had tried and fell pregnant only for him to have given it to you. You had to try, remember you wanted your best pink shot and clomid could have and still may be an option..... Big hugs xxxoo

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[ABC.2606]

No - I didn't get a chance to email him but I talked to him on the phone today. I said, I'm confident I ovulated last Tuesday (Oct 3rd - CD14) b/c I had symptoms of ovulation and a VERY, very clear temp shift on the following day - Wednesday - CD15. He said, well you got a +OPK on Sept. 29th (CD10), so you had to have ovulated earlier than last Tuesday, and, your progesterone came back at 10 on CD17 and if you were only 3dpo, you progesterone would not be that high. And I said well I normally get +OPK a few days before it looks like I actually O and I always see a major temp shift around CD14-15, so, that's when I think I'm ovulating. And he said, well, OPK tests are more accurate than temperature charts. And around and around we went.... So he said, again, call me on the first day of your next period and we'll talk about a couple of options. I said, I know my period will start on Friday or Saturday, I'm already starting to spot, and my LP will likely be 10 days. And so he said again, just call me after your period starts. I think we both may be getting slightly frustrated w/ each other :)

Here's another thing though: He mentioned again today that my follicle on ultrasound on CD10 (the day I got +OPK) was 17 mm. He said you normally will ovulate when follicle gets between 20-25 mm, and it grows 2 mm a day. So if mine was 17 mm on CD10, then clearly it seems possible that I didn't ovulate until a few days after that +OPK if my follicle grew to closer to 25 mm.

And - today I have had a few incidents of spotting and my temp is starting to drop. If I ovulated Oct 3rd, then I'm only 9 dpo and that doesn't seem ok that I'm spotting at 9 dpo. The spotting is minimal - but before I started swaying I never had spotting before AF.

Yea - I'm frustrated - and have had a looooooong day so far today :) :) :) Please excuse the venting!

Also - I want to read and respond to others here later tonight (WOW our ttw board has been active!) - but Robin and TP - Thinking about you both. This ttc stuff kinda sucks :( :( Big hugs to you!

[Pbn3]

Omg what a douche!!! Did you get a chance to say that to him about the follicle being 17mm on day of pos opk so how could you have ovulated the following day?? Or did you think of it after the phone call? I cannot believe he said opks are more accurate than temping!!! Are there any other obs you can see? Otherwise can you possibly ring him back and calmly say you feel that you aren't being taken seriously with your concerns and that you are losing confidence in yours and his ability to communicate? This may 'shock' him into being more open minded and helpful and if not then suggest to him that you think perhaps its best you see someone else.... maybe this will jump start him as a last resort.... How incredibly frustrating for you [emoji853] I really am stunned at how arrogant he's behaving [emoji46]

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[Momto3girls]

Good evening everyone!

Welcome Frankie!

I am going to have to go back and re-read everything to figure out what all is happening.. I went through it quickly on my phone when I posted earlier but my phone sucks so reading through everything is like pulling teeth.

ABC - I am so sorry to hear your doctor isn't being very helpful :( I don't have any advice for you but I will KMFX that he gets his act together and realizes what is happening and helps you out!

So to expand a little on my post earlier. I just started taking Zoloft... and I kept thinking that this lower back pain was possible pregnancy symptoms as well as some nausea. I had this moment of realization on my lunch break that it was totally the new meds I am taking. I decided to google the side effects and sure enough everything I am currently feeling is due to the meds! They make me feel like complete crap! HOWEVER I always forget that when I am pregnant I don't get symptoms before 6 weeks. So this is actually a good sign ;) No symptoms of being pregnant or anything for that matter, aside from med side effects, is good. 2 more sleeps before I start the testing!

[ABC.2606]

Omg what a douche!!! Did you get a chance to say that to him about the follicle being 17mm on day of pos opk so how could you have ovulated the following day?? Or did you think of it after the phone call? I cannot believe he said opks are more accurate than temping!!! Are there any other obs you can see? Otherwise can you possibly ring him back and calmly say you feel that you aren't being taken seriously with your concerns and that you are losing confidence in yours and his ability to communicate? This may 'shock' him into being more open minded and helpful and if not then suggest to him that you think perhaps its best you see someone else.... maybe this will jump start him as a last resort.... How incredibly frustrating for you [emoji853] I really am stunned at how arrogant he's behaving [emoji46]

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No actually he's the one who brought up the follicle on our call today. He had told me last week that it had measured at 17 mm and then he mentioned it again today and said the thing about it growing 2 mm per day and O happening when it's 20-25 mm.... So I didn't understand why he said that and also acted like I must have ovulated the day after +OPK. I get what he has said that there can be issues with temping in terms of temps being thrown off by different things, but my pattern is consistent and definitely clear enough to show when O is happening!!

I think my plan for when I call him on Monday morning (he's out tomorrow anyways) is to see if he makes any mention at all of Clomid, and if so I'm going to just ask him if I can have it. I want to see if it's one of the "options" he mentioned today. I'm wondering if he'll say, we'll lets have you keep trying a few more cycles and if you don't get pregnant we'll try Clomid - in which I'll just ask to have it now. If he makes no mention at all maybe I'll bring it up since he'd talked about it my last appt.

Ugh. Annoying! :(

[ABC.2606]

I don't know if I should be sad or happy for my af after d&c nearly a month ago. Sad because he's no longer with us and happy because after my next cycle next month we can start trying again


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I felt this way when I got my first AF after my early m/c in August.... Mixed feelings... Happy my body had returned to normal, but sad that it was because my pregnancy didn't stick. :( Normal to feel that way I think!

[ABC.2606]

Ok I'm trying to keep up... Who all do we have in the 2ww right now? BBB, Mommy2Apples (hi!! we've missed you on here!), Frankie, Momto3Girls? Am I missing anyone?

Who is next to test?!! :)

TP and Robin - I know we all understand if you need to take a break from here. You both have been through so much. But know we're here for you whenever you need and whenever you want to vent! Seems like there have been so many BFN's and early m/c's on this board lately - it sucks!! Thinking about you both and really praying your sticky beans come soon!

[Pbn3]

I don't know if I should be sad or happy for my af after d&c nearly a month ago. Sad because he's no longer with us and happy because after my next cycle next month we can start trying again


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBluedreaming I missed this earlier!

Wishing you all the best and hope your ttc goes quickly [emoji173]

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[Mommy2apples]

Abc! I've missed you too!! Sorry the doc is giving you so many problems! Hopefully you get your clomid!

Bluedreaming so many hugs to you!


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[Greydore]

Ok I'm trying to keep up... Who all do we have in the 2ww right now? BBB, Mommy2Apples (hi!! we've missed you on here!), Frankie, Momto3Girls? Am I missing anyone?

Who is next to test?!! :)

TP and Robin - I know we all understand if you need to take a break from here. You both have been through so much. But know we're here for you whenever you need and whenever you want to vent! Seems like there have been so many BFN's and early m/c's on this board lately - it sucks!! Thinking about you both and really praying your sticky beans come soon!

Hello! Wanted to add my name to the list. I think I O'ed yesterday, so I'm just barely in the 2WW. Hopefully I can have some patience and not spend tons of money on tests!

[Momto3girls]

Welcome Greydore! Fx for you! I am a poasaholic! So right there with you on spending too much on tests.. I have decided to just buy the dollar store test until I am seeing something faint on those otherwise I'd go broke!

I had the weirdest sensation this morning. I was standing in my living room and go a sharp sudden zap like feeling really low abdomen area. I have seen a lot of people who have experience implantation pinching but I can't see that being what it was because it was just around my csection scar, but felt like it was inside. My last csection was 7 years ago and have never felt a pain like that before. It was so weird !

Oh and I tested this morning cause I suck! Lol BFN obviously haha well at least I got that out of my system for now. We will see what tomorrow brings. I will be 9 dpo tomorrow.


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[mwilson]

so hard not testing. I'm 6 dpo today. I didn't test early with my first. I tested at 11 dpo with my second and now the wait is so hard this time. not sure what it is haha. While I know I'm super early but the urge to test is strong haha. I usually wake up and hurry to pee so I don't have fmu to test. Tempted to test tomorrow, but still think its to early and seeing negative isn't fun.

[Momto3girls]

It's definitely too early mwilson. It's way too early for me too lol I usually get bfps maybe by 9dpo but definitely by 10 dpo. Good luck!


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[Greydore]

My first son was an oops baby, so I didn't test til my period was a week late, obviously was very positive. My second we were trying, so I tested at 9 dpo and got a BFN, but got a faint BFP at 11 dpo with a dollar tree test (a FRER gave me a negative the same day!) Every time I think I have symptoms I remind myself that it's probably in my head, because with both of my boys I didn't feel any different whatsoever until 6 weeks when the nausea and exhaustion hit. I probably will test on Saturday the 21, because I have a bachelorette party planned and I need to decide how much I'll be drinking, although it's probably still too early.

[Momto3girls]

That's exactly how I am too. With my first she was an oops.. I was 18, and I tested when my period was 5 days late. With my second DD she was planned but I have no idea my time line for things. My third was an oops but I knew as soon as it happened and managed to hold out testing until 10dpo and it came back a very faint positive. I had no symptoms with any of those two week waits.. And hardly any throughout the pregnancies at all. Some nausea if I didn't eat but otherwise nothing was different. So I don't know why I expect this time to be different. Lol


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[Greydore]

Momto3girls let us know what happens tomorrow! I tested once at 8 dpo also, in the evening! It was silly because I knew it would be negative, but I just had that strong urge to test. Part of me wants to show some self control and wait this time (we'll see).

[Momto3girls]

I will definitely update in the morning! I've been having some intense cramping on the right side of my uterus, or so it seems. I have a feeling...


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[Momto3girls]

So I think I have the world's faintest second line! I saw it right away but it's proving to be a difficult one to capture on camera.. here it is anyways. Have fun squinting! I can't wait to see what tomorrows will show!37945

[Momto3girls]

Not sure where everyone is??? Here is my fmu test! Happy squinting!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/9bfbd31307ad21c42a67d9914701c353.jpg

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[frankie2017]

Not sure where everyone is??? Here is my fmu test! Happy squinting!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/9bfbd31307ad21c42a67d9914701c353.jpg

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I *think* I see something in the second one!!


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[XXforhubby]

Not the best lighting, but I do see a line when I zoom in. Huge congrats!!


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[Momto3girls]

The light on it was making it not show up in the picture thats why i took it like that. Fx i can get a good picture later, or i guess i should say tomorrow lol i am not a poasaholic..

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[Pbn3]

Getting cautiously excited Momto3girls [emoji3]

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[Mommy2apples]

I do see a line Momto3girls!!


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[Georgia_Peach]

Not sure where everyone is??? Here is my fmu test! Happy squinting!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/9bfbd31307ad21c42a67d9914701c353.jpg

Sent from my LG-H915 using TapatalkI think I see something too! Congrats!! [emoji2]

[Greydore]

I definitely see it! Fx that it keeps getting darker for you!

[Babybeaublue]

Hoping to see a lovely dark line in a few days momto3!!! :fx:

[Momto3girls]

I am skeptical of it. Its so hard to see and ive had these play tricks on me before. HOWEVER my cervix is super high firm and closed and it never does that in the 2ww. So i guess we will see!

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[Greydore]

I totally understand, but that to me is positive. It looks just like my first test with my second son. I was very skeptical and posted a picture of it on one of those threads where the women tweak the photo. She didn't even have to tweak my photo it was so obviously positive, like yours is. I don't have to squint to see it :)

[Momto3girls]

Bought and frer so I wouldn't have to guess anymore
There's no denying that!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171014/de3a658aa52f881b040db129bbab0673.jpg


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[Mommy2apples]

Congrats Momto3girls!


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[Pbn3]

No doubt about that line Momto3girls [emoji3] congratulations!!! [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

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[Momto3girls]

Thank you! I am in shock! Haha

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[Greydore]

Yay!! So excited for you! What does that put your EDD at?

[Babybeaublue]

Congratulations!!

My temp has gone down 2 days in a row. Waiting for AF. She's not supposed to be here until Thurs/Fri so a bit worried she's coming too soon :/

[Pbn3]

BBB you're only 8dpo so its far too early to read anything into a temp drop. Also its barely a drop! You're still well above coverline! Its really the next few days (as in 4-5) temps that matter :) Hang in there xxoo

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[mwilson]

That’s awesome!! It gives me hope! I just caved and poas...negative at 8dpo. I know it was early but feeling off so I thought I’d try. I’ll try again next few days. I think part of me wants an early positive bc a couple months ago I had a late positive and that turned into a chemical preg.

[Pinkfever]

Hi ladies!
I found this thread and thought that I would jump in because I am like many of you and currently in the 2ww! I'm only 2DPO, but this is our 4th month ttc a girl, after 2 sweet boys (ages 5 & 2.5).
Our last boy is a failed sway with the dr. Shettles method. Back in 2013 I read the book, " how to choose the sex of your baby", and decided to try his method after my sister-in-law who has two boys and a girl, who she claimed she got using the Dr shettles method... But now after discovering this site I couldn't believe how different some of the pink sway tactics are compared to his. It all totally makes sense to me after reading TONS of Atomic's research findings. She is a fountain of knowledge!

I purchased a custom sway plan back in April and have been following it since June. We originally wanted to stick with a cut off as part of our sway, but after 2 months in a row with BFNs we decided to drop the cut off and aim for one attempt at +OPK. Last month was our 1st month doing it like that, and I happened to ovulate the day after my 1st positive OPK and then still got a bfn. Hubby had abstained for 6 days.

Now for this month (I linked my chart), we ended up with a 7 day abstain. My OPK was negative at 1pm on cd13, but then positive at 9pm, so we made our attempt that evening at 11:30pm, and my chart is showing ovulation on cd15. I'm hoping this worked but now I'm nervous about the abstain length because I have since read that it can cut odds of conception. DH & I are both 30 and when we got our boys it was super quick and close to ovulation with lots and lots of attempts. With the Dr. Shettles method it recommended to bd as many times leading up to the "cut off" day, which we did and then clearly got our boy.

We only want 3 kids so this is our very last attempt at a girl which is naturally making me a ball of nerves, but I've been trying to stay as relaxed as possible. One attempt at +OPK has been much less stressful than trying to plan a cutoff. It still makes me nervous though since we got both of our boys within a day of ovulation. But I realize one bd attempt is supposedly the trick. Along with that I've been following the le diet and the rest of my custom plan.

Anyway sorry this got kind of long winded! I just thought I should jump in with my story since I know many of you can relate.

Side note - I had a dull aching pain on both sides yesterday (more so on the right side) that lasted about 30mins. I also recorded on my chart that on day 7, I had a sharp stabbing pain on my right side at 12pm and then again at 10pm that night. I'm hoping these are normal pains and not an indication of a cyst or something else getting in the way of conceiving.
I just thought having ovary pain on cd7 was odd...

Thanks for reading my story, and goodluck to everyone!! :fx:

http://Simple Link: [url=https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3a535d]My Ovulation Chart[/u

[Momto3girls]

Thank you everyone! I cant believe i am going to have 4 kids! Good luck to everyone in the 2ww !!

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[Greydore]

Grrr I got a low temp this morning, when I thought I ovulated two days ago, now I'm really not sure. I did an OPK but I really don't know how to read them. I guess we will continue E4D and hope we catch it.

[Pbn3]

Greydore that link isnt working for me. Can you screenshot your chart and post a pic of it and your opk please?

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[Mommy2apples]

Good luck pinkfever!!

Good luck greydore! It is frustrating when your temp doesn't do what you expect it too!


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[Greydore]

Greydore that link isnt working for me. Can you screenshot your chart and post a pic of it and your opk please?

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I didn't link anything :) my chart is pretty crappy because I haven't been temping consistently. I worked a night shift last night and took my temp around 6 am after being awake for 15 hours, so I don't know if that would make my temp be lower? I looked again at the OPK and it's definitely negative.


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[Pbn3]

I cant see your chart is what I meant :) as in the signature link

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[ABC.2606]

Congrats, Momto3Girls!!!!! So excited for you!!!

Welcome, Greydore and Pinkfever!!

[plasticserenity]

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me jumping in to join you!

This is my first month TTC, my first month off BC, my first month properly charting, and my first 2WW. And I can tell you, I am already going crazy! Knowing that I might have many many months of feeling like this is a daunting prospect.

I feel like I'm completely winging it for my first month as I have no idea what's normal for me - I had no AF when I had my Mirena coil in. So I THINK I'm 14dpo (according to FF) and had a couple of BFNs already (started testing at 11dpo). But I never had a positive OPK and I'm relying on some pretty iffy temps to assume that I ovulated (we went away this month which obviously changed up the routine a lot and consistent temp timing was difficult). I had to disregard a temp for FF to figure my ovulation (though that temp was taken at 2am after only 2 or 3 hours sleep when we had to catch a plane so pretty much not a good time). I didn't have much CM to speak of and have hardly had any hormonal symptoms this month (but had loads with my mirena coil!).

We just did E4D this month as my cycle was an unknown (which was lucky as I didn't get +ve OPK) but looking at my chart I doubt the timing was great for conception.

Any of you ladies who are good with charts mind taking a look to see if FF has got it right? Do you think I ovulated when I did, and am I still in with a chance this month?

Congratulations to those of you who have got BFP this month and fingers crossed to all of you who are still waiting! xxx

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[Pbn3]

Abc any news? How was the phone call cd1?

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