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Momwithlove
October 7th, 2017, 07:10 AM
I notice from my insecurity that I like to share the process of swaying blue with you upcoming boymoms who are also planning to start ttc blue from October to December this year. I have plans to start my first sway this month. Who’s in?????

By opening this new thread I hope we can get in touch and share our plans, thoughts and support each other. I hope that by sharing our knowledge we can make our sway even more successful.
To start by myself I am trying the HE diet without paying attention about how many calories I get in a day. I eat what I want and certainly eat more than before. I notice that i’m to busy in my mind about the swaying blue thing and this not seem right to me either. Trying to look for some distraction but also like to hear how u experience this whole process of swaying. Is there maybe already another active thread about this subject? If yes, please share the link with me. I like to get in touch. If not, ladies feel free to share your plan with us!

Who’s also planning for a healthy :babym: in 2018?? Wishing you all good luck!! :bluesperm::bluesperm:

Psalms 139:14
October 8th, 2017, 12:31 AM
Here! We are trying this month, praying his go well!

I’ve been doing supplements for nearly a year now (wheatgrass, one a day vitamins, fish oil). I eat breakfast everyday and have been gaining weight since 2016 (not by choice [emoji31])

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Ammue
October 8th, 2017, 12:51 AM
Hi,

We are also trying this month. I am in but i am not swaying very hard. I just want to get pregnant because we are trying from last 5-6 months, moreover this will be our first child.

I am also taking femara :worry:

Tali.kah
October 8th, 2017, 03:28 AM
I'll be swaying next year around this time :) ! I plan to start the diet October 20-8 and make the first BD attempt in November and then onwards until we get a BFP !

Question for you ladies swaying- the diet and supplements seems pretty straight forward- the BD attempts seems confusing ! There seems to be three ways to do it...
1) on attempt month just have regular every 2-4 day unprotected BD from AF onwards to allow regular exposure of sperm which naturally raises PH and has been known to sway blue.

2) ensure DH has regular 2-4 day release via other methods and by having protected BD until you get a positive OPK then do unprotected the night of positive OPK, unprotected the next morning and night, and atleast one more unprotected the next night.

3) Same as number 2 BUT the week your guessing you'll O based on your cycle just start having unprotected BD every 2-4 days and then make sure the 3 attempts are there around the positive OPK.

What BD plan are you ladies going to be going with? And is there anyone reading who has had success a certain way?

Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 03:57 AM
Hi ladies,
So glad to hear from u all. We are also trying this month. I am soo excited and even more ready to welcome an healthy baby! With Gods will a healthy baby boy!
I am living in Spain and most people over here are more reserved about there preference for a gender. When I speak about my preference, they think I am foolish or ungrateful. they do not understand me so well. That’s why I started this thread to get in touch with u all.

I started in August of this year with the HE diet. I am taking fish oil and prenatal vitamins which is included with folic acid. I am a little bit insecure about my diet. Asking myself if I am eating the right nutrients for the blue sway. Try to focus on carbs and protein but i am wondering if I am taking the correct amount.

I just got my period yesterday. Want to start with drinking every night one glas of 100% natural sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) with lemon juice till O. Is anybody else also drinking baking soda?
And is anyone going to use preseed?

Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 04:10 AM
Hi there and so nice you are writing with us. Your asking the right question. For myself I’ll choose nr 2 but I have read that the advice is to have unprotected sex at least 3-5 attempts in your fertile window. I choose to bd on the night of positive OPK and the day after in the morning and night.

babysecond
October 8th, 2017, 07:04 AM
Hi ladies,
I am also trying for boy sway.I am taking EPO,Folic acid and Vit E everyday.I have 33 day cycle.But i am having problem with tracking ovulation as it is always coming Big O ..No smiley.Plzz help me out for this.I want to try this month.

Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 09:11 AM
Hi ladies,
I am also trying for boy sway.I am taking EPO,Folic acid and Vit E everyday.I have 33 day cycle.But i am having problem with tracking ovulation as it is always coming Big O ..No smiley.Plzz help me out for this.I want to try this month.

Have you tried the ovulation test kit the one with two stripes?? This is the one i use twice a day (morning and evening). Otherwise if u want to stay the one with smiley...try it twice a day in the morning and evening. Maybe you missed your peak by testing once a day. I have not tried any other methods but maybe you can observe your CM?

DreamingRainbow
October 8th, 2017, 09:27 AM
Hi ladies. I am hoping to ttc blue in November. I have just found this site and it's so interesting reading all these sway tactics!
I have 2 girls and have suffered 3 mmcs.
I will be grateful for a healthy baby but hope to sway blue if possible.
I have just started taking vits yesterday - multi vit, vid D, fish oil, coq-10, folic acid (hoping to get Folate over the coming days instead).
I also have dh taking multi vit, vit d and folic acid.

Blue dust to u all!

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Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 10:18 AM
Hi ladies. I am hoping to ttc blue in November. I have just found this site and it's so interesting reading all these sway tactics!
I have 2 girls and have suffered 3 mmcs.
I will be grateful for a healthy baby but hope to sway blue if possible.
I have just started taking vits yesterday - multi vit, vid D, fish oil, coq-10, folic acid (hoping to get Folate over the coming days instead).
I also have dh taking multi vit, vit d and folic acid.

Blue dust to u all!

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Hi there! Are you also following the HE diet? Or trying anything else to succeed the blue sway?

DreamingRainbow
October 8th, 2017, 01:46 PM
Hi there! Are you also following the HE diet? Or trying anything else to succeed the blue sway?Hi Momwithlove,
I am just learning about the HE diet and I am happy to follow it....once I figure out what I should and shouldnt be eating. From what I understand I should eat meat/protein every meal and snack throughout day. Have started eating almonds and bananas as I understand they're boy friendly.

I'm confused over when to dtd but like the 3 options listed in your post above. Think I'll try the 3 times around +opk and if don't get pregnant then the following month we will dtd every 3-4 days. However, I have 2 girls and they were both conceived dtd every few days all month long so I wonder if doing it that way again would result in a girl sway?. (I had never heard of swaying before this week)

Do u suggest doing anything else?

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Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 05:00 PM
Hi Momwithlove,
I am just learning about the HE diet and I am happy to follow it....once I figure out what I should and shouldnt be eating. From what I understand I should eat meat/protein every meal and snack throughout day. Have started eating almonds and bananas as I understand they're boy friendly.

I'm confused over when to dtd but like the 3 options listed in your post above. Think I'll try the 3 times around +opk and if don't get pregnant then the following month we will dtd every 3-4 days. However, I have 2 girls and they were both conceived dtd every few days all month long so I wonder if doing it that way again would result in a girl sway?. (I had never heard of swaying before this week)

Do u suggest doing anything else?

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Well I am definitely not an expert but I have learned to eat protein WITH carbs! I eat meat or chicken with rice, bread or pasta!! I can share my own made plan with u ladies:
Morning:
Whole grain cornflakes with full fat milk
And three times a week I eat eggs with bread

Snack:
Red grapes

Lunch:
Sandwich with chicken breast
Or sandwich with cheese

Snack:
Potato chips / or home made smoothie / or fruit

Dinner:
Protein with carbs.

Snack:
Potato chips, or green smoothie

Drinks:
Water with lemon juice
Orange juice
Green smoothie with full fat diary

I have learned that the full fat diary has a positive influence on your blue sway.

I will BD every other day protected and will bd unprotected around +opk (the night of +opk, and the following next day in the morning and night). Want to use preseed instead of bsf or bsd.

Well I am not sure if bding every few day sways pink. I’ve read and i think other factors such as nutrition may affect your sway and having a lot unprotected sex will not hurt your blue sway. I think it’s even more blue friendly to have a lot of unprotected sex. But still I will stay at my own plan to have unprotected sex in the three attempts around +opk.

DreamingRainbow
October 8th, 2017, 05:27 PM
Well I am definitely not an expert but I have learned to eat protein WITH carbs! I eat meat or chicken with rice, bread or pasta!! I can share my own made plan with u ladies:
Morning:
Whole grain cornflakes with full fat milk
And three times a week I eat eggs with bread

Snack:
Red grapes

Lunch:
Sandwich with chicken breast
Or sandwich with cheese

Snack:
Potato chips / or home made smoothie / or fruit

Dinner:
Protein with carbs.

Snack:
Potato chips, or green smoothie

Drinks:
Water with lemon juice
Orange juice
Green smoothie with full fat diary

I have learned that the full fat diary has a positive influence on your blue sway.

I will BD every other day protected and will bd unprotected around +opk (the night of +opk, and the following next day in the morning and night). Want to use preseed instead of bsf or bsd.

Well I am not sure if bding every few day sways pink. I’ve read and i think other factors such as nutrition may affect your sway and having a lot unprotected sex will not hurt your blue sway. I think it’s even more blue friendly to have a lot of unprotected sex. But still I will stay at my own plan to have unprotected sex in the three attempts around +opk.I agree, I'll do the planned 3x dtd at ovulation on our first month and hope for the best.
What's bsf or bsd?(apologies, I'm not up to speed on all the accronyms)
I was going to use preseed (although I used this on dd2) but atomic advised not to if I have enough ewcm. I plan on getting a bottle of robitussin to help increase ewcm.
Are u hoping to ttc in Oct?
Thanks for sharing your planned diet. This diet seems much easier than the girl diet!

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Momwithlove
October 8th, 2017, 05:39 PM
I agree, I'll do the planned 3x dtd at ovulation on our first month and hope for the best.
What's bsf or bsd?(apologies, I'm not up to speed on all the accronyms)
I was going to use preseed (although I used this on dd2) but atomic advised not to if I have enough ewcm. I plan on getting a bottle of robitussin to help increase ewcm.
Are u hoping to ttc in Oct?
Thanks for sharing your planned diet. This diet seems much easier than the girl diet!

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Baking soda douch (bsd) and baking soda finger (bsf)

Yes with Gods will we want to ttc this month!!
I am from Spain I am not sure if we have robitussin?? Maybe I can use another brand?

DreamingRainbow
October 8th, 2017, 05:47 PM
Baking soda douch (bsd) and baking soda finger (bsf)

Yes with Gods will we want to ttc this month!!
I am from Spain I am not sure if we have robitussin?? Maybe I can use another brand?Ahh! Fingers crossed for u this month! I'm in Ireland but we have robitussin here. Mucolex is the same brand I think?

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Tali.kah
October 8th, 2017, 05:48 PM
I'm so torn on what BD pattern to attempt !!!! (Even though I won't be swaying until next year, I like preparing ahead of time!)

I'm also tempted to try BSF one time and if I don't get a BFP not use it the next time. I've also read making sure you have a big O before DH and before BD makes you more PH friendly for a blue sway!

MiaMelb
October 8th, 2017, 06:09 PM
I'll be swaying next year around this time :) ! I plan to start the diet October 20-8 and make the first BD attempt in November and then onwards until we get a BFP !

Question for you ladies swaying- the diet and supplements seems pretty straight forward- the BD attempts seems confusing ! There seems to be three ways to do it...
1) on attempt month just have regular every 2-4 day unprotected BD from AF onwards to allow regular exposure of sperm which naturally raises PH and has been known to sway blue.

2) ensure DH has regular 2-4 day release via other methods and by having protected BD until you get a positive OPK then do unprotected the night of positive OPK, unprotected the next morning and night, and atleast one more unprotected the next night.

3) Same as number 2 BUT the week your guessing you'll O based on your cycle just start having unprotected BD every 2-4 days and then make sure the 3 attempts are there around the positive OPK.

What BD plan are you ladies going to be going with? And is there anyone reading who has had success a certain way?

My understanding is people use No. 2 if they are also trying to incorporate Shettles timing. By keeping the early BDs protected then they are only BDing at/close to O.
However, since Shettles has been debunked many couple use No. 1. There is some thinking around the fact that regular unprotected BD likely indicated a committed relationship where the male is around to protect the female and any offspring (this is obviously evolutionary reasoning).

MiaMelb
October 8th, 2017, 06:12 PM
Hi ladies,
I am also trying for boy sway.I am taking EPO,Folic acid and Vit E everyday.I have 33 day cycle.But i am having problem with tracking ovulation as it is always coming Big O ..No smiley.Plzz help me out for this.I want to try this month.

Just saw this and the EPO stood out to me. I started taking a multi recently and then changed brands as the one I originally had had EPO in it which Atomic told me to stay away from. You might want to double check if the EPO is right for your circumstances.

DreamingRainbow
October 8th, 2017, 07:23 PM
Just saw this and the EPO stood out to me. I started taking a multi recently and then changed brands as the one I originally had had EPO in it which Atomic told me to stay away from. You might want to double check if the EPO is right for your circumstances.Hi MiaMelb,
Does epo sway more towards girl?
I took a lot of vits post mmc/pre conceiving baby #2 which was another amazing baby girl?

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MiaMelb
October 8th, 2017, 08:39 PM
I'm not an expert on the supps. Just from seeing it mentioned in a few places, my understanding is EPO was previously recommended for blue sways but that it's fallen out of favour and only used by a few people under a few circumstances for blue.

DreamingRainbow
October 9th, 2017, 11:47 AM
Ladies I've also read (on this site) that almonds are a good boy sway food to eat [emoji4]

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Ladym_888
October 9th, 2017, 12:15 PM
Hi Ladies! So excited to be on this thread of boy sways! Sometimes i feel so alone with this so its nice to talk to other mammas trying to seay blue. We are planning to try end of next month. I have been doing the HE diet for about 8 weeks now it has been hard because i used to be pure girl diet which is why i have two beautiful DD. I so desperately want a little boy and know this is my last child ao i hope it works. Allthough i would love another little girl if thats what God has planned for me ��. I feel like my sway is great and im doing everything i can to sway except its hard since my hubbys diet isnt the greatest and he doesnt believe in all this swaying stuff so i just dont really talk about it with him. I am haooy yo have tgis site fot support because i feel it will really help all of us. Blue dust to all of you!

Momwithlove
October 9th, 2017, 02:16 PM
Ladies I've also read (on this site) that almonds are a good boy sway food to eat [emoji4]

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Good to know! Thanks for sharing it with us :-)

Momwithlove
October 9th, 2017, 02:21 PM
Hi Ladies! So excited to be on this thread of boy sways! Sometimes i feel so alone with this so its nice to talk to other mammas trying to seay blue. We are planning to try end of next month. I have been doing the HE diet for about 8 weeks now it has been hard because i used to be pure girl diet which is why i have two beautiful DD. I so desperately want a little boy and know this is my last child ao i hope it works. Allthough i would love another little girl if thats what God has planned for me ��. I feel like my sway is great and im doing everything i can to sway except its hard since my hubbys diet isnt the greatest and he doesnt believe in all this swaying stuff so i just dont really talk about it with him. I am haooy yo have tgis site fot support because i feel it will really help all of us. Blue dust to all of you!


I feel you!! I also feel alone and can’t talk with Some one about my sway. My hubby is also very skeptic about the whole swaying thing. He eats the same what I am eating but he doesn’t take any Supps!!
Can you tell us about your diet? What are eating a day for example?

Momwithlove
October 9th, 2017, 02:26 PM
Hi Ladies! So excited to be on this thread of boy sways! Sometimes i feel so alone with this so its nice to talk to other mammas trying to seay blue. We are planning to try end of next month. I have been doing the HE diet for about 8 weeks now it has been hard because i used to be pure girl diet which is why i have two beautiful DD. I so desperately want a little boy and know this is my last child ao i hope it works. Allthough i would love another little girl if thats what God has planned for me ��. I feel like my sway is great and im doing everything i can to sway except its hard since my hubbys diet isnt the greatest and he doesnt believe in all this swaying stuff so i just dont really talk about it with him. I am haooy yo have tgis site fot support because i feel it will really help all of us. Blue dust to all of you!


I feel you!! I can’t even talk with some one about my sway even not with my hubs. He is very skeptic about the swaying thing and doesn’t take any supps!! Ughhhh
I am so curious what you ladies eat a day. Can some one share their diet with us?? :-) need some inspiration!!

Momwithlove
October 9th, 2017, 02:29 PM
LadyM,
I feel you!! I can’t even talk with some one about my sway even not with my hubs. He is very skeptic about the swaying thing and doesn’t take any supps!! Ughhhh
I am so curious what you ladies eat a day. Can some one share their diet with us?? :-) need some inspiration!!

DreamingRainbow
October 9th, 2017, 04:35 PM
Hi Ladies! So excited to be on this thread of boy sways! Sometimes i feel so alone with this so its nice to talk to other mammas trying to seay blue. We are planning to try end of next month. I have been doing the HE diet for about 8 weeks now it has been hard because i used to be pure girl diet which is why i have two beautiful DD. I so desperately want a little boy and know this is my last child ao i hope it works. Allthough i would love another little girl if thats what God has planned for me ��. I feel like my sway is great and im doing everything i can to sway except its hard since my hubbys diet isnt the greatest and he doesnt believe in all this swaying stuff so i just dont really talk about it with him. I am haooy yo have tgis site fot support because i feel it will really help all of us. Blue dust to all of you!I have 2 beautiful daughters too. [emoji4]

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Momto3girls
October 10th, 2017, 11:35 AM
Hello everyone! I am in the 2ww and hope I even somewhat swayed blue... We bded unprotected in my fertile period unintentionally, when I realized we tried hard to get in as many attempts as we could before o. We bded the first day of my fertile period and then twice on O day. We tried other days and it just didn't happen. I've been taking apple cider vinegar to try and up PH even before my fertile period and drinking coffee. I am also a carboholic and we love our hamburgers and sausages on the bbq, so I am hoping that there is enough to get our little baby boy! GL everyone!


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shinay
October 11th, 2017, 02:06 PM
Momwithlove: for DH, if he doesn't want to take a lot of supps, try just vitamins. My DH hates taking med, so I have to get him the vitamin gummies and he loves those. He will munch a couple (within instruction limits) each day. Some is better than nothing.

It's nice to see many people ttc blue as well. Yay! I originally planned to ttc this month, but many things have happened again. Sighh, we have to push our ttc plan to next year (maybe around April or May). But I want to keep myself updated on all the sway tactics.

I plan to use Preseed since I don't normally have much ewcm. Also, take some robittusin as well. We probably will just bd unprotected after my period and put in 3 attempts when i get positive opk. I might need to use opk to test 2 cycles ahead to see how many days it takes for me to O after getting positive. I dont want DH to run out of steam before I actually O.

I have tried bsf before. It doesn't seem to work for me. (tmi) It just produced a lot of creamy thick mucus for me (not sure if I used too much), and it would not be good for the boy sperms.

As for diet, my usual plan is
Morning: oatmeal, or boiled eggs or omelettes
Snack: banana
Lunch: Meat with rice, fries
Snack: dark chocolate with almond, salty chips
Dinner: Meat with rice or pasta

And drink lots of lemon water throughout the day

shinay
October 11th, 2017, 02:09 PM
Momto3girls: are you in 2ww now? Fx that you get big fat BFP with sticky blue bean!

Momto3girls
October 11th, 2017, 03:31 PM
Shinay: yes I am in the 2ww! 6 dpo! I will test on Saturday if I can hold out that long. I haven't bought any sticks yet so hopefully I can resist the urge until then! GL with your sway! It looks great!


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DreamingRainbow
October 11th, 2017, 03:58 PM
So exciting! How early can u find out gender where u are? Will u find out or go team green?

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Ladym_888
October 11th, 2017, 05:47 PM
I agree with shinay! At leadt if he can take some sort of vitamin that he likes like the gummies mabye? My hubby is taking one a day for men because i know he wont tske anymore then that. Lol either way you still have a good chance to get a boy if you especially go on the HE diet and take what you need to to help your chances :-)

Ammue
October 12th, 2017, 12:12 AM
Hi All,

How many cups of tea are allowed when on HE diet? Is tea not considered as caffeine?

TIA

MiaMelb
October 12th, 2017, 01:36 AM
Hi All,

How many cups of tea are allowed when on HE diet? Is tea not considered as caffeine?

TIA

My understandings is that it's not so much the caffeine that sways pink but the combination of other chemicals alongside the caffeine in coffee that sways pink. If it's black/white tea I think there is no limit for a blue sway.

Momwithlove
October 12th, 2017, 03:53 AM
Ladies I am glad to see all the messages.
Today I am heartbroken. We have planned to ttc this month. Unfortunately, the plans have changed and it makes me so sad. I thought I was completely ready for it and I was so excited but then DH came unexpectedly with the news about we better can wait to ttc for a while. I am so disappointment right now.

DreamingRainbow
October 12th, 2017, 05:51 AM
My understandings is that it's not so much the caffeine that sways pink but the combination of other chemicals alongside the caffeine in coffee that sways pink. If it's black/white tea I think there is no limit for a blue sway.I thought there was more caffeine in tea than coffee?

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Throwaway_panther
October 12th, 2017, 10:44 AM
I thought there was more caffeine in tea than coffee?

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I think the only tea that would have more caffeine tha a standard cup of coffee with be yerba mate. Tea also has a different stimulant than coffee, we just call it caffeine. Tea also has antioxidants.

Tali.kah
October 12th, 2017, 11:28 AM
Ladies I am glad to see all the messages.
Today I am heartbroken. We have planned to ttc this month. Unfortunately, the plans have changed and it makes me so sad. I thought I was completely ready for it and I was so excited but then DH came unexpectedly with the news about we better can wait to ttc for a while. I am so disappointment right now.

I'm so sorry to hear this- what happened if you don't mind me asking?
On the plus side you waiting means more time to perfect your sway and improve the lifestyle !

Momwithlove
October 12th, 2017, 12:15 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this- what happened if you don't mind me asking?
On the plus side you waiting means more time to perfect your sway and improve the lifestyle !

He wants to move first to another (bigger) house. Yes it is like you Said. I hope by waiting our sway plan will be more success. Let’s hope and pray :-)

Momwithlove
October 12th, 2017, 12:17 PM
Momwithlove: for DH, if he doesn't want to take a lot of supps, try just vitamins. My DH hates taking med, so I have to get him the vitamin gummies and he loves those. He will munch a couple (within instruction limits) each day. Some is better than nothing.

It's nice to see many people ttc blue as well. Yay! I originally planned to ttc this month, but many things have happened again. Sighh, we have to push our ttc plan to next year (maybe around April or May). But I want to keep myself updated on all the sway tactics.

I plan to use Preseed since I don't normally have much ewcm. Also, take some robittusin as well. We probably will just bd unprotected after my period and put in 3 attempts when i get positive opk. I might need to use opk to test 2 cycles ahead to see how many days it takes for me to O after getting positive. I dont want DH to run out of steam before I actually O.

I have tried bsf before. It doesn't seem to work for me. (tmi) It just produced a lot of creamy thick mucus for me (not sure if I used too much), and it would not be good for the boy sperms.

As for diet, my usual plan is
Morning: oatmeal, or boiled eggs or omelettes
Snack: banana
Lunch: Meat with rice, fries
Snack: dark chocolate with almond, salty chips
Dinner: Meat with rice or pasta

And drink lots of lemon water throughout the day

Thanks for your advice! :-) your plan sounds good and blue friendly! Blue dust to you!

DreamingRainbow
October 12th, 2017, 04:41 PM
Ladies I am glad to see all the messages.
Today I am heartbroken. We have planned to ttc this month. Unfortunately, the plans have changed and it makes me so sad. I thought I was completely ready for it and I was so excited but then DH came unexpectedly with the news about we better can wait to ttc for a while. I am so disappointment right now.Oh I am sorry you've had to delay your ttc. Maybe you could do both? On the plus side I assume being longer on the diet sways more towards your goal of blue?

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Momwithlove
October 14th, 2017, 02:26 AM
Oh I am sorry you've had to delay your ttc. Maybe you could do both? On the plus side I assume being longer on the diet sways more towards your goal of blue?

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Well that’s what I thought...we can do both but his thoughts are different. On the other side I have more time to follow the diet. So ya..I have to learn to accept the situation and just move on :-|

Cc5025
October 14th, 2017, 06:10 PM
Hi ���� I am also swaying blue, will ttc nov or dec. We are blessed with 2 children, 1 girl (11) 1 boy (7). I successfully swayed for our son via Shettles method and hoping to do it again this time around but things have changed quite a bit since my last sway, there’s so much more controversy in it and diets are all so varied. Having read through several sway guidelines I have decided to come join you ladies at gender dreaming as it’s closest to what I did before with a few slight variations.

Baby blue dust to us all ��

Momwithlove
October 18th, 2017, 03:41 AM
Hi ���� I am also swaying blue, will ttc nov or dec. We are blessed with 2 children, 1 girl (11) 1 boy (7). I successfully swayed for our son via Shettles method and hoping to do it again this time around but things have changed quite a bit since my last sway, there’s so much more controversy in it and diets are all so varied. Having read through several sway guidelines I have decided to come join you ladies at gender dreaming as it’s closest to what I did before with a few slight variations.

Baby blue dust to us all ��

Thats 100% true. In the beginning I got confused about the different ways of swaying. I was reading threads on IG and over here. It was so confusing. I decided to follow the HE diet because it fits better with my lifestyle. As you can read we had plans to ttc in October. unfortunately the plans are changed now and we will ttc later. Not sure when. Hopefully December of this year.

Can I ask about the Shettles method. Like I know the shettles method adviced to bd once at the O time. What did u follow of the shettles method while u swayed for your son? I will follow the advice of atomic and will bd at least 3 times after having positive opk.

Momwithlove
October 18th, 2017, 03:42 AM
@ Cc5025

Thats 100% true. In the beginning I got confused about the different ways of swaying. I was reading threads on IG and over here. It was so confusing. I decided to follow the HE diet because it fits better with my lifestyle. As you can read we had plans to ttc in October. unfortunately the plans are changed now and we will ttc later. Not sure when. Hopefully December of this year.

Can I ask about the Shettles method. Like I know the shettles method adviced to bd once at the O time. What did u follow of the shettles method while u swayed for your son? I will follow the advice of atomic and will bd at least 3 times after having positive opk.

Momwithlove
October 18th, 2017, 04:01 AM
Ladies, is anyone going to drink baking soda?

Cc5025
October 18th, 2017, 04:38 AM
Yes we only BD once at O with my Shettles sway. It does make me nervous to try the 3 times around O as atomic advices but it makes sense. I’m 34 now so I’m thinking given my age my fertility may be reduced so those extra chances may be Necessary. I don’t feel that I produce enough EWCM either compared to my younger years. I won’t be BD EOD tho, only around O. I need to go out and get some clear blue smileys as my cheapie OPKs haven’t been very clear at indicating O and my temps haven’t been very clear either, possibly a non reliable thermometer ��. Last time my temps were perfect indication and cheapie sticks did the job but not proving so easy this time around!

Hope you manage to start trying in December and don’t put on too much weight ongbe HE diet until then hehe... I’m feeling the extra calories x



@ Cc5025

Thats 100% true. In the beginning I got confused about the different ways of swaying. I was reading threads on IG and over here. It was so confusing. I decided to follow the HE diet because it fits better with my lifestyle. As you can read we had plans to ttc in October. unfortunately the plans are changed now and we will ttc later. Not sure when. Hopefully December of this year.

Can I ask about the Shettles method. Like I know the shettles method adviced to bd once at the O time. What did u follow of the shettles method while u swayed for your son? I will follow the advice of atomic and will bd at least 3 times after having positive opk.

DreamingRainbow
October 18th, 2017, 04:58 AM
Yes we only BD once at O with my Shettles sway. It does make me nervous to try the 3 times around O as atomic advices but it makes sense. I’m 34 now so I’m thinking given my age my fertility may be reduced so those extra chances may be Necessary. I don’t feel that I produce enough EWCM either compared to my younger years. I won’t be BD EOD tho, only around O. I need to go out and get some clear blue smileys as my cheapie OPKs haven’t been very clear at indicating O and my temps haven’t been very clear either, possibly a non reliable thermometer ��. Last time my temps were perfect indication and cheapie sticks did the job but not proving so easy this time around!

Hope you manage to start trying in December and don’t put on too much weight ongbe HE diet until then hehe... I’m feeling the extra calories xHiya, I'm a bit confused with the opks. I have 2 dd's and hoping to sway blue, potentially in Nov or Dec. I'd never heard of swaying until 2 weeks ago! I have bought some cheapie opks and line was almost as dark as control line yday. But I'm wondering if I should invest in the clearblue smiley opk for when we actually ttc? Not sure if they're worth the dosh?

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alcraw86
October 18th, 2017, 10:56 AM
We are also attempting a baby boy sway for early November! I have a wonderful 4 year old daughter but would like to complete our family with a beautiful baby boy. We only want 2 children so whatever we get will be our last. I'm completely okay with getting another daughter as I know sisters can be closer in general but would like to make at least an effort to sway for a boy! My husband is extremely supportive and has made a tremendous effort to change his lifestyle to raise his testosterone. Good luck to all!

Nonerz
October 18th, 2017, 12:59 PM
I am also ttc a boy this November. It will be my first attempt and first child. I was on hormonal birth control for 10 years and got off of it the end of July. I have been using OPKs for 2 months and actively following the HE diet for the last week or so (before I was loosely following it). DH has been willing to take a multivitamin, occasional fish oil, and avoid alcohol. I’m wishing us all the best!


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Momwithlove
October 18th, 2017, 01:16 PM
Good luck ladies!! For those who believe in the ph method i just found icelandic water (8.4ph)

Cc5025
October 18th, 2017, 02:54 PM
dreaming rainbow - If it was a definite line within the 10min time frame then it indicates ovulation. I had a faint line this morning but I’m pretty certain I already ovulated so why it never worked then and showing as now I don’t know. I think it would be worth while to keep testing with the cheapies and confirm it with clear blue on the month(s) ur active trying to conceive as timing around O can help the sway x

Coco22
October 18th, 2017, 11:43 PM
Baking soda douch (bsd) and baking soda finger (bsf)

Yes with Gods will we want to ttc this month!!
I am from Spain I am not sure if we have robitussin?? Maybe I can use another brand?

Hi ! I think there is a Brand called vick just be sure it is pure guanafeisin.


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DreamingRainbow
October 19th, 2017, 04:36 PM
dreaming rainbow - If it was a definite line within the 10min time frame then it indicates ovulation. I had a faint line this morning but I’m pretty certain I already ovulated so why it never worked then and showing as now I don’t know. I think it would be worth while to keep testing with the cheapies and confirm it with clear blue on the month(s) ur active trying to conceive as timing around O can help the sway xThanks Cc5025, yes it was line within 10min timeframe. I've attached pic...
Good idea to get the clearblue for when we do ttc so it takes the guessing out of it. Xhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171019/0ec8821204dbce2cbb2e991934958411.jpg

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Coco22
October 19th, 2017, 08:55 PM
Hi ladies! Im just wondering... is there Any amount of protein and carbs for snacking? Sometimes im just not hungry and grab a bite of cheese and 2-3 pretzels or tortilla chips is that fine ?


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Cc5025
October 20th, 2017, 06:06 AM
Yeh that’s nice and clear �� I ended up with 2 clear too wed & thurs, so I’m guessing my O was then after all! I’m going to confirm with clearblue aswell next month and be strict on the HE diet until then... Eat and eat and eat lol x


Thanks Cc5025, yes it was line within 10min timeframe. I've attached pic...
Good idea to get the clearblue for when we do ttc so it takes the guessing out of it. Xhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171019/0ec8821204dbce2cbb2e991934958411.jpg

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Ladym_888
October 20th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Omg so dh went in a hot tub for 30 mins once amd he never goes in a hot tub. I am hardcore swaying in every way and am so upset that this happened. Our attempts were going to start end of November do you tgink i should wait longer now? The timing is really good when we want to attempt but now i dont know....

Cc5025
October 20th, 2017, 07:57 PM
I don’t think it will effect your sway since your weeks away from ttc .. to my knowledge the point of not taking hot showers etc is to help DH sperm be active, this far in advance whatever sperm is there won’t be there when your ttc In nov. I’m sure it’s nearer the time you would encourage cold showers etc but if I’m wrong hopefully someone will correct me x


Omg so dh went in a hot tub for 30 mins once amd he never goes in a hot tub. I am hardcore swaying in every way and am so upset that this happened. Our attempts were going to start end of November do you tgink i should wait longer now? The timing is really good when we want to attempt but now i dont know....

Momwithlove
October 21st, 2017, 03:52 AM
Thanks Cc5025, yes it was line within 10min timeframe. I've attached pic...
Good idea to get the clearblue for when we do ttc so it takes the guessing out of it. Xhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171019/0ec8821204dbce2cbb2e991934958411.jpg

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This one is not positive yet. I will send a picture later of my opk.

DreamingRainbow
October 21st, 2017, 04:10 AM
This one is not positive yet. I will send a picture later of my opk.Thanks momwithlove. I was wondering as it's supposed to be as dark or darker isn't it? The next days one was barely visible. I didn't test the day before this one so maybe I missed the surge?
Also, I'm only a few weeks post missed miscarriage so maybe I won't ovulate this month (although I had cm). I was testing to try and get a read on my cycle in advance of when we do ttc (hopefully Nov or dec)

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Momwithlove
October 21st, 2017, 06:26 AM
Thanks momwithlove. I was wondering as it's supposed to be as dark or darker isn't it? The next days one was barely visible. I didn't test the day before this one so maybe I missed the surge?
Also, I'm only a few weeks post missed miscarriage so maybe I won't ovulate this month (although I had cm). I was testing to try and get a read on my cycle in advance of when we do ttc (hopefully Nov or dec)

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Cc5025
October 21st, 2017, 06:28 AM
I was reading about opks last night .. as momwithlove says above that’s not positive indication of O, it will go as dark or darker than the test line. Also test mid afternoon not morning pee .. needless to say i messed this up this month �� I’ll def be doing it properly next month and using clear blue to confirm x


QUOTE=DreamingRainbow;948578]Thanks momwithlove. I was wondering as it's supposed to be as dark or darker isn't it? The next days one was barely visible. I didn't test the day before this one so maybe I missed the surge?
Also, I'm only a few weeks post missed miscarriage so maybe I won't ovulate this month (although I had cm). I was testing to try and get a read on my cycle in advance of when we do ttc (hopefully Nov or dec)

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DreamingRainbow
October 21st, 2017, 06:54 AM
How can I add photos?Click reply and scroll down. You will see a file with a + in it and "photos, files, videos" written above. (See screenshot)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/f75d2f2c04d33a1a9b73bbb30c5d7b01.jpg

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Momwithlove
October 21st, 2017, 07:09 AM
Click reply and scroll down. You will see a file with a + in it and "photos, files, videos" written above. (See screenshot)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/f75d2f2c04d33a1a9b73bbb30c5d7b01.jpg

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Cc5025
October 21st, 2017, 04:23 PM
Wow that’s a perfect example, what time(s) of day did you test ? x


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twinblues
October 21st, 2017, 05:25 PM
Hi all. Can I join your group? Planning an attempt this cycle. I am on CD 6 now. Have been on the HE diet since September. Before that i lost a lot of weight about 40lbs on a low carb high fat diet (ketogenic). I am still slightly overweight though, so i am worried about gaining too much weight on this diet.

So far i am keeping my calories between 1800-2000. It helps that the majority of my carbs come from veggies. No matter how hard I try, I cant seem to get up to the 9-12 servings of veggies recommended here. What do you guys eat?

I never get ewcm, so i am taking grapefruit and lemon water daily. Started taking a tablespoon of robitussin yesterday. I also intend to use preseed.

So far we have been DTD every other day. Still worried because i have always believed in Shettles timing. My two daughters are Shettles babies and i always felt i would follow Shettles timing for a boy. So still unsure about how to proceed as per timing.

DreamingRainbow
October 21st, 2017, 05:28 PM
38007Momwithlove wow! Such a perfect example, thank you for sharing! Are you in the 2ww now?

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DreamingRainbow
October 21st, 2017, 05:31 PM
Hi all. Can I join your group? Planning an attempt this cycle. I am on CD 6 now. Have been on the HE diet since September. Before that i lost a lot of weight about 40lbs on a low carb high fat diet (ketogenic). I am still slightly overweight though, so i am worried about gaining too much weight on this diet.

So far i am keeping my calories between 1800-2000. It helps that the majority of my carbs come from veggies. No matter how hard I try, I cant seem to get up to the 9-12 servings of veggies recommended here. What do you guys eat?

I never get ewcm, so i am taking grapefruit and lemon water daily. Started taking a tablespoon of robitussin yesterday. I also intend to use preseed.

So far we have been DTD every other day. Still worried because i have always believed in Shettles timing. My two daughters are Shettles babies and i always felt i would follow Shettles timing for a boy. So still unsure about how to proceed as per timing.Fair play to you losing 40lb!! I've been eating a lot of carbs the past 3 weeks and have put on 3lb already! I am a bit concerned about putting on a lot of weight (I already need to lose 14lbs!) But if I get a healthy baby (& a boy) then I don't care, it will totally be worth it. Keeping my eyes on the prize!

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DreamingRainbow
October 21st, 2017, 06:13 PM
Hi, What is the difference between pink and purple clearblue ovulation test kit? I've used the cheapie internet ones in the past but would like to pinpoint ovulation and can't figure our which one is better?

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Momwithlove
October 22nd, 2017, 02:58 AM
Wow that’s a perfect example, what time(s) of day did you test ? x

Twice a day at 12:00 am and 20:00 pm. I was adviced to test twice a day so I would not miss my peak.

Momwithlove
October 22nd, 2017, 03:12 AM
Hi all. Can I join your group? Planning an attempt this cycle. I am on CD 6 now. Have been on the HE diet since September. Before that i lost a lot of weight about 40lbs on a low carb high fat diet (ketogenic). I am still slightly overweight though, so i am worried about gaining too much weight on this diet.

So far i am keeping my calories between 1800-2000. It helps that the majority of my carbs come from veggies. No matter how hard I try, I cant seem to get up to the 9-12 servings of veggies recommended here. What do you guys eat?

I never get ewcm, so i am taking grapefruit and lemon water daily. Started taking a tablespoon of robitussin yesterday. I also intend to use preseed.

So far we have been DTD every other day. Still worried because i have always believed in Shettles timing. My two daughters are Shettles babies and i always felt i would follow Shettles timing for a boy. So still unsure about how to proceed as per timing.

Welcome and nice to see you want to write with us! What I have read is that atomic recommended to be at LEAST 6 weeks on the HE diet before the first attempt! If you want certainty about your attempt ask the atomic for advice. Because I have also read you lost weight before starting the diet. I can remember that I had read in one of the threads that losing weight is pink friendly. Again, I am not an expert so ask the atomic for her advice!

May I ask you something? How do you monitor the amount of your calories? I really do not know how many calories I get in a day and that fact makes me nervous because I doubt if I am getting the right amount per day! I do not manage either to eat 9-12 servings of veggies a day! Gosh now I am scared!

Did u get your girls by having one bd at o day?

Momwithlove
October 22nd, 2017, 03:17 AM
Momwithlove wow! Such a perfect example, thank you for sharing! Are you in the 2ww now?

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Welcome dear! No this example was from a month ago! :-)

Cc5025
October 22nd, 2017, 10:31 AM
My boy was a Shettles timing baby too, so I feel nervous about timing..atomic recommends 3 attempts, one on evening of O then once on the next morning and then the evening, however also have success from one attempt at O which is Shettles method anyway ... I’ve not decided yet wether to have 1 attempt or 3. I definitely am not ready for trying every other day, i understand the theory behind it but it’s just so far from what I did to conceive my son so I’m scared to try that. What is everyone else thinking to try ? x


Hi all. Can I join your group? Planning an attempt this cycle. I am on CD 6 now. Have been on the HE diet since September. Before that i lost a lot of weight about 40lbs on a low carb high fat diet (ketogenic). I am still slightly overweight though, so i am worried about gaining too much weight on this diet.

So far i am keeping my calories between 1800-2000. It helps that the majority of my carbs come from veggies. No matter how hard I try, I cant seem to get up to the 9-12 servings of veggies recommended here. What do you guys eat?

I never get ewcm, so i am taking grapefruit and lemon water daily. Started taking a tablespoon of robitussin yesterday. I also intend to use preseed.

So far we have been DTD every other day. Still worried because i have always believed in Shettles timing. My two daughters are Shettles babies and i always felt i would follow Shettles timing for a boy. So still unsure about how to proceed as per timing.

DreamingRainbow
October 22nd, 2017, 11:15 AM
My boy was a Shettles timing baby too, so I feel nervous about timing..atomic recommends 3 attempts, one on evening of O then once on the next morning and then the evening, however also have success from one attempt at O which is Shettles method anyway ... I’ve not decided yet wether to have 1 attempt or 3. I definitely am not ready for trying every other day, i understand the theory behind it but it’s just so far from what I did to conceive my son so I’m scared to try that. What is everyone else thinking to try ? xI have 2 girls. I never heard if swaying before finding this site a few weeks ago. Both times we dtd every 2-3 days a week or so before O, then when I got positive opk we dtd each day for a few days (on dd2 only as never heard of opks before her!)
I'm a little nervous dtd x3 at O might also swing pink but if my baby is meant to be a girl then so be it.

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DreamingRainbow
October 22nd, 2017, 11:18 AM
Twice a day at 12:00 am and 20:00 pm. I was adviced to test twice a day so I would not miss my peak.Do u hold pee for 4 hours hours prior to testing? I find it extremely difficult to hold for even 3hrs at a time! Does this really matter?

Any idea of which clearblue is better? The pink or purple?

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Momwithlove
October 22nd, 2017, 02:03 PM
Do u hold pee for 4 hours hours prior to testing? I find it extremely difficult to hold for even 3hrs at a time! Does this really matter?

Any idea of which clearblue is better? The pink or purple?

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No I dont hold the pee for hours but I don’t drink water at least 3 till 4 hours before the test!

And about your question about clear blue..I don’t use clear blue but I think the pink one is better! It is clearly indicated by a smiley if you have reached your high peak! The purple one is unclear because he has multiple options

Momwithlove
October 22nd, 2017, 02:05 PM
I have 2 girls. I never heard if swaying before finding this site a few weeks ago. Both times we dtd every 2-3 days a week or so before O, then when I got positive opk we dtd each day for a few days (on dd2 only as never heard of opks before her!)
I'm a little nervous dtd x3 at O might also swing pink but if my baby is meant to be a girl then so be it.

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The patron is recommend to sway blue. That’s why I am scared to bd every other day unprotected! I will stick on the 3 attempts after having positive opk! I am confused!!! Have to read more successful stories and see what they did when they were swaying

DreamingRainbow
October 22nd, 2017, 03:13 PM
The patron is recommend to sway blue. That’s why I am scared to bd every other day unprotected! I will stick on the 3 attempts after having positive opk! I am confused!!! Have to read more successful stories and see what they did when they were swayingThe patron?

I'm Gona try the 3 days at O and cross fingers! Will have a search on this site and see if I can find more tips. If I can I'll share here [emoji4]

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DreamingRainbow
October 22nd, 2017, 03:16 PM
No I dont hold the pee for hours but I don’t drink water at least 3 till 4 hours before the test!

And about your question about clear blue..I don’t use clear blue but I think the pink one is better! It is clearly indicated by a smiley if you have reached your high peak! The purple one is unclear because he has multiple optionsThat's a good idea. I drink a lot of water so I'll restrict it a bit.
Thanks for the tip 're clearblue. I've only ever used the cheapie internet ones but I hear these remove interpretation.

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babysecond
October 23rd, 2017, 09:44 AM
Have you tried the ovulation test kit the one with two stripes?? This is the one i use twice a day (morning and evening). Otherwise if u want to stay the one with smiley...try it twice a day in the morning and evening. Maybe you missed your peak by testing once a day. I have not tried any other methods but maybe you can observe your CM?

I ma using once in a day..i will try two times in a day this month..thanks

Momwithlove
October 23rd, 2017, 10:09 AM
I ma using once in a day..i will try two times in a day this month..thanks

Any time! Good luck and blue dust to you!!

twinblues
October 23rd, 2017, 11:06 AM
Hi Momwithlove, about keeping track of calories I measure everything I eat and log it in myfitnesspal.

I know losing weight is a nono for blue, but I was morbidly obese, and have PCOS. I don't think I could have safely carried a pregnancy to term at my weight. I started the HE diet at the beginning of September, so that gives me about 8 weeks - hoping I ovulate around CD 16-18.

I got my girls with BD every day with a 3 day cut off. I think what I am going to do is keep BD every other day, but start using protection from CD 10. Then proceed with 3 attempts once I get a positive opk.

Coco22
October 25th, 2017, 12:46 AM
Momwithlove wow! Such a perfect example, thank you for sharing! Are you in the 2ww now?

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Wow ! Great example ! How many days before do you recommend to start testing ?


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Pbn3
October 25th, 2017, 08:00 AM
Do u hold pee for 4 hours hours prior to testing? I find it extremely difficult to hold for even 3hrs at a time! Does this really matter?

Any idea of which clearblue is better? The pink or purple?

Sent from my SM-A520F using TapatalkIf you have trouble with holds and restricting fluids I would suggest the purple cb - so to be clear the Clearblue Dual Hormone Digital Opk test kit. It uses fmu so no need for holds or wondering if your sample is too diluted. It has three results, the open circle which will always be your result when first used as it needs to establish base levels. It will then move onto a flashing smiley once it detects a change in both lh and estrogen and then finally a solid smiley when it detects peak levels. Solid smiley is equivalent to a positive opk. The instructions will tell you what cd to begin testing based on your cycle length. I found them super easy to use, especially with being able to test every morning with fmu. If you suspect you have a short surge, you are able to test again after fmu test (so as well as fmu test you can test in the afternoon/evening but will need to attempt a hold) once you have a flashing smiley. I would suggest sticking to just the once a day with fmu initially though.

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Momwithlove
October 25th, 2017, 08:06 AM
I'll start testing 5 days Before o

DreamingRainbow
October 25th, 2017, 07:02 PM
If you have trouble with holds and restricting fluids I would suggest the purple cb - so to be clear the Clearblue Dual Hormone Digital Opk test kit. It uses fmu so no need for holds or wondering if your sample is too diluted. It has three results, the open circle which will always be your result when first used as it needs to establish base levels. It will then move onto a flashing smiley once it detects a change in both lh and estrogen and then finally a solid smiley when it detects peak levels. Solid smiley is equivalent to a positive opk. The instructions will tell you what cd to begin testing based on your cycle length. I found them super easy to use, especially with being able to test every morning with fmu. If you suspect you have a short surge, you are able to test again after fmu test (so as well as fmu test you can test in the afternoon/evening but will need to attempt a hold) once you have a flashing smiley. I would suggest sticking to just the once a day with fmu initially though.

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Pbn3
October 25th, 2017, 07:16 PM
No problem! I just happened to stumble across this thread and your post. If yourself or anyone else here have questions please feel to join/post in the 2ww thread as well. Its great for a quick response about anything ttc related, its not just a place to wait out the 2ww in. Should be renamed a monthly Ttc & 2ww thread rather than just 2ww :) Myself and other long term ladies often stick our heads in there. Good luck to you all [emoji3]

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Pbn3
October 25th, 2017, 08:58 PM
Went ahead and renamed the November thread [emoji12] in case anyone is interested in joining!

November TTC & 2ww (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61659)

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Momwithlove
October 30th, 2017, 02:53 AM
Ladies, for those who have doubts about bd pattern..i asked atomic for her advice about my bd pattern en she responded positively to this.

once i get +opk i will go for 3 attempts; evening of +opk, am of next day then pm of that day. From then continue EOD in case of delayed O.
So that’s why I chose for bd on:
O-1 +opk
O (I hope so and bd at am and pm)
I will skip the next day and continue on;
O+2
O+4
O+6

twinblues
November 1st, 2017, 01:07 PM
Appears we are going to do the same pattern. DH flatly refuses to use protection - says he doesn't like it. Our BD pattern has always been EOD day anyway. So it appears all we have to do is have the extra attempt at Positive OPK.

After doing a little more reading around the site, it appears what actually swayed pink for my daughters was the the BD pattern. We were newly weds and I know for a fact that we were BD every day. Add my chronic exercise and dieting it makes sense I had girls.

DreamingRainbow
November 10th, 2017, 06:26 PM
Hi ladies, can any of you shed some light for me on opk's?
I used clearblue digital (purple one) for first time ever yesterday and got a blank circle. Then this morning I got a flashing smiley face.
Im using the cheapie opk in the afternoons but not getting positive at all on it?
Any ideas?? As hoping to sway blue I don't want to do the 3 attempts until I know I'm about to ovulate?

Also I assume a +opk with clearblue digital is when it's a solid smiley not a flashing one?

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Pbn3
November 10th, 2017, 06:31 PM
Dreamingrainbow the first digi result will always be an open circle as it uses this to establish base levels as such. The flashing smiley indicates a rise in lh and estrogen but you can experience many days of flashing smiley (mine ranged from 2-5) when your levels peak you will get a solid smiley which is your pos opk.

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Pbn3
November 10th, 2017, 06:35 PM
If you suspect you have a short surge, once you get a close to or pos opk in the afternoon dip test ones then retest using your digi and see if you get a solid smiley. The beauty of it is, even if you pick up your peak surge early (as in no short surge but picked up at beginning of peak due to testing again) but still dont ovulate until 2nd day after solid smiley you get your three attempts in for sure

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DreamingRainbow
November 10th, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dreamingrainbow the first digi result will always be an open circle as it uses this to establish base levels as such. The flashing smiley indicates a rise in lh and estrogen but you can experience many days of flashing smiley (mine ranged from 2-5) when your levels peak you will get a solid smiley which is your pos opk.

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Pbn3
November 10th, 2017, 06:41 PM
Its more that your lh and/or estrogen levels are on the move and this is shown with a flashing smiley. As I mentioned, you may experience multiple days of a flashing smiley until the levels shift again and register a peak reading giving you a solid smiley :)

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DreamingRainbow
November 10th, 2017, 06:45 PM
If you suspect you have a short surge, once you get a close to or pos opk in the afternoon dip test ones then retest using your digi and see if you get a solid smiley. The beauty of it is, even if you pick up your peak surge early (as in no short surge but picked up at beginning of peak due to testing again) but still dont ovulate until 2nd day after solid smiley you get your three attempts in for sure

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkThat's really good advice thank u! I'm not entirely sure what a short surge is but I'm not long post late mmc so I'm trying to get a read on my system/cycle and hoping to catch the egg if possible.
In my ignorance I thought if I got blank circle yesterday and flashing today then I thought I'd have solid tomorrow !
I'll keep doing the cheapie ones in the afternoon. So just to clarify - if I get what looks like a positive (or almost) on cheapie in the afternoon can I use the same urine to test the clearblue or do I wait another 4 hours?

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Pbn3
November 10th, 2017, 07:07 PM
You can absolutely use the same sample as the afternoon one to retest using digi. By short surge I mean some people have to test multiple times a day to catch there pos opk or they may miss it (other people can experience the opposite and have a long surge, so 2 or more days of pos opk before ovulation takes place) If you do get a solid smiley from an afternoon sample then normally you wouldn't have gotten it until the following morning if sticking to testing with fmu as per instructions, so you may not ovulate the 2nd day after. Does that make sense? Just trying to explain both ends short and long, but most people do fall in the middle :)

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Dreaminboy
November 11th, 2017, 03:54 AM
Thanks for all the details on ovulation it is very beneficial.


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DreamingRainbow
November 12th, 2017, 10:27 AM
Hi guys. So I've had flashing smiley on digital clearblue 9th - 12th Nov using fmu. Using Cheapie opks each afternoon but getting barely a hint of a line! Have i missed it?

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Momwithlove
November 12th, 2017, 03:41 PM
Hi guys. So I've had flashing smiley on digital clearblue 9th - 12th Nov using fmu. Using Cheapie opks each afternoon but getting barely a hint of a line! Have i missed it?

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I have read regularly where it is not recommended to use two brands of opks because it does not show the same results at the same time and many of them who use two different brands get confused because they do not know which of the two results is the right one. Each brand has a different sensitivity which may not give you the same results. Stay with one brand so this will prevent confusion. That’s my opinion..

Pbn3
November 12th, 2017, 04:41 PM
Dreaming what cd did you start the digis on? I know its frustrating but just keep at it. My dip tests would darken to a pos usually over 2 days from a barely there line rather than slowly getting darker daily so hang in there. Ideal afternoon testing is generally between 1pm - 2pm and try to restrict fluids for 2-3 hours prior and hold for 2, is this similar to what you're doing? Just try and relax and let your body do its thing. Your surge will come.

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DreamingRainbow
November 12th, 2017, 05:09 PM
Dreaming what cd did you start the digis on? I know its frustrating but just keep at it. My dip tests would darken to a pos usually over 2 days from a barely there line rather than slowly getting darker daily so hang in there. Ideal afternoon testing is generally between 1pm - 2pm and try to restrict fluids for 2-3 hours prior and hold for 2, is this similar to what you're doing? Just try and relax and let your body do its thing. Your surge will come.

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkHiya pbn3,
I started using the cheapie tests on what i think was cd10 (post mmc so not 100%) and started using clearblue digital on cd14. I'm now cd17. I've been doing clearblue with fmu and then cheapie at approx 4pm after not peeing for 4 hours (which is v difficult!!) [emoji4]
I suppose I'm being very impatient and worrying I won't O !

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DreamingRainbow
November 12th, 2017, 05:09 PM
I have read regularly where it is not recommended to use two brands of opks because it does not show the same results at the same time and many of them who use two different brands get confused because they do not know which of the two results is the right one. Each brand has a different sensitivity which may not give you the same results. Stay with one brand so this will prevent confusion. That’s my opinion..Thanks momwithlove !

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Pbn3
November 12th, 2017, 05:24 PM
Dreaming when do you usually o and how long is your cycle? The digis come with an instruction table showing what day to start using them. Cd14 seems quite late to start? Do you have quite a long cycle usually??

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Pbn3
November 12th, 2017, 05:26 PM
Sorry I've just reread your post. Is this your first cycle following mmc?

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DreamingRainbow
November 12th, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dreaming when do you usually o and how long is your cycle? The digis come with an instruction table showing what day to start using them. Cd14 seems quite late to start? Do you have quite a long cycle usually??

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkNot entirely sure tbh! For the past 4 years I've either been pregnant or breastfeeding but I've worked out O is approx cd17.
But as I started using the cheap opk on cd10 I assumed I'd be ok? I'll keep testing for a few more days and then maybe give it up until next month [emoji17]

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DreamingRainbow
November 12th, 2017, 05:34 PM
Sorry I've just reread your post. Is this your first cycle following mmc?

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Pbn3
November 12th, 2017, 07:32 PM
Dreaming you may ovulate later than usual while your body and hormones are still settling back into place. Definately keep testing with both the digi and cheapies for now (No point stopping the digis now) Hopefully you'll see a positive within the week (I think you will [emoji3]) So what cd are you on now?

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Momwithlove
November 13th, 2017, 03:34 PM
Does anyone drink Baking soda?

DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:09 PM
Eek this is a positive opk isnt it?
Had flashing smiley on digital opk this am but got this just now.
Do do I dtd tonight, tm and tm night or tm night the following am and that night?!

Also we dtd last night and night before....have I ruined my boy sway?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/06313b0ff3117580979db60ec958a632.jpg

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dreaming you may ovulate later than usual while your body and hormones are still settling back into place. Definately keep testing with both the digi and cheapies for now (No point stopping the digis now) Hopefully you'll see a positive within the week (I think you will [emoji3]) So what cd are you on now?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkHi pbn3. I think I'm on cd18.
Got a positive on cheapie opk this eve. I have posted below querying when to dtd?!

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:17 PM
Dreaming that looks really close and very well may be your pos as some people don't get a blaring pos on IC's. Do another digi now and see if its still flashing or solid. I'm inclined to say my advice would be wait to start your attempts tomorrow. Have an AM and PM attempt tomorrow followed by another AM OR PM attempt the following day. That will be your 3 attempts in easily and allows 36 hours for sperm recovery from last bd going into to 3 in a row!!

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Momwithlove
November 13th, 2017, 05:17 PM
Eek this is a positive opk isnt it?
Had flashing smiley on digital opk this am but got this just now.
Do do I dtd tonight, tm and tm night or tm night the following am and that night?!

Also we dtd last night and night before....have I ruined my boy sway?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/06313b0ff3117580979db60ec958a632.jpg

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It looks good!! But I think the line could me much darker!! Can u post another photo and maybe with flash?

Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:24 PM
Does anyone drink Baking soda?I've never heard of it personally? What's the reason behind it? I'm curious!

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:24 PM
Dreaming that looks really close and very well may be your pos as some people don't get a blaring pos on IC's. Do another digi now and see if its still flashing or solid. I'm inclined to say my advice would be wait to start your attempts tomorrow. Have an AM and PM attempt tomorrow followed by another AM OR PM attempt the following day. That will be your 3 attempts in easily and allows 36 hours for sperm recovery from last bd going into to 3 in a row!!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkArgh I'm so silly I threw out the sample so can't test using the digital opk! [emoji17]
I'll do an opk test in the am and hopefully see a solid smiley and I'll do another tm. afternoon. Tg u suggested waiting till tm I'm knackered! [emoji16]
Thanks for all your help and advice!
Have u got your +opk yet?

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:25 PM
It looks good!! But I think the line could me much darker!! Can u post another photo and maybe with flash?Ah i threw out the test. I'll do another tm and it might be darker

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Momwithlove
November 13th, 2017, 05:26 PM
I've never heard of it personally? What's the reason behind it? I'm curious!

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I have read about drinking baking soda will increase your body or cm ph

Momwithlove
November 13th, 2017, 05:28 PM
Ah i threw out the test. I'll do another tm and it might be darker

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I never throw the cheapy tests away. I save them to compare which day I had the darkest line

Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:29 PM
Dreaming realistically sticking to the fmu testing as per digi instructions you wouldn't get a solid smiley until tomorrow AM anyway. So your other option if it is solid in the morning is dtd tomorrow night then twice the following day or if you feel better about getting two attempts in tomorrow and one the following day the do that. Whatever works out best for you at pos opk :) Just be sure to get at least one attempt in tomorrow! How exciting your pos is almost here!!! Afm - I'm actually almost 31 weeks pregnant after a long and very hard journey. I just like to try and help in these support threads (mainly the ttc/2ww ones) for those chasing a quick answer or advice :)

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:30 PM
Dreaming do you mean you threw out the urine sample?

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:31 PM
Dreaming do you mean you threw out the urine sample?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkYep. Could i wait 2 hours and test with digital at 11pm? Or would it be a waste of time?

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:32 PM
I have read about drinking baking soda will increase your body or cm phHeard of the BSF (baking soda finger) but believe atomic advises against it (best double check with her though) but never heard of drinking it and would be very wary about doing so.....

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:33 PM
Yep. Could i wait 2 hours and test with digital at 11pm? Or would it be a waste of time?

Sent from my SM-A520F using TapatalkHonestly I'd just leave it till tomorrow now. Good luck trying to sleep [emoji6][emoji23] I remember all too well that excitement of finally being so close to 'go' time

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:35 PM
Dreaming realistically sticking to the fmu testing as per digi instructions you wouldn't get a solid smiley until tomorrow AM anyway. So your other option if it is solid in the morning is dtd tomorrow night then twice the following day or if you feel about getting two attempts in tomorrow and one the following day the do that. Whatever works out best for you at pos opk :) Just be sure to get at least one attempt in tomorrow! How exciting your pos is almost here!!! Afm - I'm actually almost 31 weeks pregnant after a long and very hard journey. I just like to try and help in these support threads (mainly the ttc/2ww ones) for those chasing a quick answer or advice :)

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkAww huge congrats to you!! You're very kind to share your knowledge with us. I hope my +opk is on the way soon but I'm petrified at the option of getting pregnant after a late mmc. But it'll totally be worth it. Do u know the gender?

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 05:37 PM
Honestly I'd just leave it till tomorrow now. Good luck trying to sleep [emoji6][emoji23] I remember all too well that excitement of finally being so close to 'go' time

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI hope dtd last night and night before won't sway pink

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:43 PM
No I'm team green and loving it!!! Gave up swaying a long time ago and gave up trying for my sticky bean earlier this year then fell pregnant with this one the cycle after somehow [emoji23] one hit wonder not even trying and doing all the 'wrong' things (excessive coffee, alcohol etc [emoji87])

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:51 PM
I hope dtd last night and night before won't sway pink

Sent from my SM-A520F using TapatalkIf you wait until tomorrow evening/night to start your attempts (pending pos opk) you've left 48 hours between bds which gives you a fresh healthly load to kick things off so I wouldn't be concerned about those previous bds swaying pink :) But in saying that no one knows for sure just how long sperm recovery takes and your dhs swimmers could easily be replenished by morning. If you're having doubts about what to do I'd just stick to the recommendation for blue swaying which is dtd the evening of pos opk, following AM and PM or if two attempts works out better day of pos opk then do that with one the following day. Whatever is the least stress! I'd just try and put it to the back of your mind, wait and see what morning brings and go from there.

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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 05:56 PM
Thought I should add I started out as a pink swayer but eventually was just ttc so my advice is usually related to opks, charting etc. Anything I'm unsure of (blue sway related) I am sure to say if I don't know :)

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 06:04 PM
No I'm team green and loving it!!! Gave up swaying a long time ago and gave up trying for my sticky bean earlier this year then fell pregnant with this one the cycle after somehow [emoji23] one hit wonder not even trying and doing all the 'wrong' things (excessive coffee, alcohol etc [emoji87])

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkAww! I was team green on both my girls and I loved the guessing. Although I was convinced they were boys both times! So so existing for u, especially after giving up ttc- "what's meant for you won't pass u by" x

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 06:16 PM
If you wait until tomorrow evening/night to start your attempts (pending pos opk) you've left 48 hours between bds which gives you a fresh healthly load to kick things off so I wouldn't be concerned about those previous bds swaying pink :) But in saying that no one knows for sure just how long sperm recovery takes and your dhs swimmers could easily be replenished by morning. If you're having doubts about what to do I'd just stick to the recommendation for blue swaying which is dtd the evening of pos opk, following AM and PM or if two attempts works out better day of pos opk then do that with one the following day. Whatever is the least stress! I'd just try and put it to the back of your mind, wait and see what morning brings and go from there.

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkSounds good! I'm off to bed now and will see what tm brings. [emoji4]

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DreamingRainbow
November 13th, 2017, 06:19 PM
I never throw the cheapy tests away. I save them to compare which day I had the darkest lineMomwithlove I pulled out tonight's opk and took pic using flash.
I always assumed the line disappeared after a while so threw them outhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171113/8427e130e4ebd02d980b9027e3b18498.jpg

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Nonerz
November 13th, 2017, 08:31 PM
Ladies, I got my first positive OPK (solid smiley face) of this month at noon today. If my cycle is like past months, I will get a positive OPK tomorrow too (Tuesday), and then a negative one the day after that (Wednesday). Do I start trying tonight, tomorrow morning and and tomorrow night. Or do I wait until tomorrow to start.


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Pbn3
November 13th, 2017, 08:56 PM
Nonerz rule of thumb is first pos opk is considered your true pos opk as lh surges can vary from hours to days but you should still ovulate 12-48 hours after first pos opk. Are you temping to see when you actually o? Either way I'd recommend dtd tonight, tomorrow AM and PM for your three attempts. Good luck and blue dust [emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 04:39 AM
We have a solid smiley face this morning!! Woohoo! I'll do a cheapie test this afternoon too. [emoji170]

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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 04:40 AM
Ladies, I got my first positive OPK (solid smiley face) of this month at noon today. If my cycle is like past months, I will get a positive OPK tomorrow too (Tuesday), and then a negative one the day after that (Wednesday). Do I start trying tonight, tomorrow morning and and tomorrow night. Or do I wait until tomorrow to start.


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Pbn3
November 14th, 2017, 04:41 AM
Woohoo [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] wonderful news dreaming!!!! It's 'GO TIME' [emoji3][emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 04:44 AM
Woohoo [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] wonderful news dreaming!!!! It's 'GO TIME' [emoji3][emoji3]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkLol! [emoji23] tbh I'm nervous at the prospect of getting 3 attempts in over next 24 hours! Did i read somewhere that u attempt again a few days after that also?

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Pbn3
November 14th, 2017, 04:47 AM
Dtd again 48 hours after the last of three bds as that should cover a delayed/late o :) You got this [emoji6] I'm excited for you!!!

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Nonerz
November 14th, 2017, 08:36 AM
We have a solid smiley face this morning!! Woohoo! I'll do a cheapie test this afternoon too. [emoji170]

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Congrats!!!


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Nonerz
November 14th, 2017, 09:58 AM
We dtd last night, but he came in the wrong position!!! I was sitting on top with him laying down. But my understanding is that it’s supposed to be doggie or missionary for ttc a boy!

Unfortunately, we both have to be up at 5 am for work so this morning was not realistic. Maybe tonight we can catch the last bit of my fertile window.


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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 10:21 AM
It looks good!! But I think the line could me much darker!! Can u post another photo and maybe with flash?This afternoon opk with and without flash. Looks better than yesterdays?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171114/92ac4e3a60e0a5945d697f38bb7add92.jpg

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Momwithlove
November 14th, 2017, 10:32 AM
This afternoon opk with and without flash. Looks better than yesterdays?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171114/92ac4e3a60e0a5945d697f38bb7add92.jpg

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Wow yes it is!! Def. positive!! Have fun dear and blue dust to you!!! Fingers crossed!

Pbn3
November 14th, 2017, 04:19 PM
Nonerz there is no magic position for boy or girl so plese don't stress! I've seen several threads on here that appear to disprove the position theory, like the chinese gender chart it ends up being about 50/50 [emoji6]

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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 07:07 PM
We dtd last night, but he came in the wrong position!!! I was sitting on top with him laying down. But my understanding is that it’s supposed to be doggie or missionary for ttc a boy!

Unfortunately, we both have to be up at 5 am for work so this morning was not realistic. Maybe tonight we can catch the last bit of my fertile window.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNonerz I thought I read somewhere here that u on top is another good one for blue sway. Doggy style is the main one I think but your way is still an "approved" style.

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DreamingRainbow
November 14th, 2017, 07:19 PM
Wow yes it is!! Def. positive!! Have fun dear and blue dust to you!!! Fingers crossed!Mom with love, weren't u considering moving house recently? Hope the house hunting is going well!

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Momwithlove
November 15th, 2017, 02:18 AM
Mom with love, weren't u considering moving house recently? Hope the house hunting is going well!

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Unfortunately not! I really want to try in December because the diet is quite heavy to pay attention to what I eat and how much I eat each time. I would like to have a positive pregnancy test in my hands, but it seems like my husband and I are not on the same page :-(

DreamingRainbow
November 15th, 2017, 06:08 AM
Ladies my 3 attempts have been foiled by my 3 and (almost) 2 year old joining us at 5:30am this morning! So the am attempt didn't happen. [emoji24]

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Pbn3
November 15th, 2017, 06:15 AM
Don't stress dreaming!! Just get your attempt in tonight! I cant tell you how many blue swayers are able to only get 2 vs 3 attempts in. You just need to do your best. Remember you may not even o until tomorrow (general rule of thumb is 12-48 hours after pos opk) so attempt tonight and try again tomorrow morning? You did attempt last night right? Your solid smiley was yesterday morning? Sorry these time differences are really confusing [emoji53]

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DreamingRainbow
November 15th, 2017, 06:20 AM
Don't stress dreaming!! Just get your attempt in tonight! I cant tell you how many blue swayers are able to only get 2 vs 3 attempts in. You just need to do your best. Remember you may not even o until tomorrow (general rule of thumb is 12-48 hours after pos opk) so attempt tonight and try again tomorrow morning? You did attempt last night right? Your solid smiley was yesterday morning? Sorry these time differences are really confusing [emoji53]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkLol. Yes successful attempt last night and will tonight too. Yes solid smiley was yesterday am and +opk in afternoon too. Will try tm am but mornings are busy enough [emoji4]

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Momwithlove
November 15th, 2017, 06:23 AM
Lol. Yes successful attempt last night and will tonight too. Yes solid smiley was yesterday am and +opk in afternoon too. Will try tm am but mornings are busy enough [emoji4]

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Did u used preseed? And have you been lying flat for 30 min after the deed?

Pbn3
November 15th, 2017, 06:29 AM
Ok lol that's great then and if you can get another in tonight then that's two attempts and a very normal outcome for swaying blue! So tomorrow you'll be in the 2ww and the countdown begins [emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 15th, 2017, 08:27 AM
Did u used preseed? And have you been lying flat for 30 min after the deed?No preseed. I took robitussin a few times over past 2 weeks or so (when I remembered) - I assume i stop taking that now. And yes I did lie down with pillow under butt for 30 mins....does this help?!

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Momwithlove
November 15th, 2017, 08:37 AM
No preseed. I took robitussin a few times over past 2 weeks or so (when I remembered) - I assume i stop taking that now. And yes I did lie down with pillow under butt for 30 mins....does this help?!

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Atomic recommended to lay down flat for over 30 min. So I think that I will help. My fingers are crossed!

DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 04:46 AM
Girls I'm so upset! We didn't get the 3 attempts in. Only one the night of +opk. I assume I'm out this month now and if I do get pregnant it's swayed pink?! [emoji22]

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 05:26 AM
Dreaming don't be upset!! You did the best you could and I've seen boys conceived from one attempt numerous times. I think the diet is the biggest factor so hang in there!

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 05:32 AM
Dreaming don't be upset!! You did the best you could and I've seen boys conceived from one attempt numerous times. I think the diet is the biggest factor so hang in there!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI'm so gutted! Stupid dh "felt too much pressure" ugh!! I just really wanted to try it all and if my body didn't get pregnant then that's out of my control but this was a disaster!

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 05:44 AM
It's awful when that happens and so disappointing [emoji17] perhaps if you don't get a bfp this cycle you could look at doing eod through your fertile window instead next cycle? Might be less pressure than trying to jam 3 attempts in over a 24 hour period. If you usually o between cd14 and cd18 then I'd try for dtd cd10, 12, 14, 16, 18 and possibly 20. Do you think having that 48 hours in between bds will help or make it worse?

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 06:06 AM
It's awful when that happens and so disappointing [emoji17] perhaps if you don't get a bfp this cycle you could look at doing eod through your fertile window instead next cycle? Might be less pressure than trying to jam 3 attempts in over a 24 hour period. If you usually o between cd14 and cd18 then I'd try for dtd cd10, 12, 14, 16, 18 and possibly 20. Do you think having that 48 hours in between bds will help or make it worse?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkThanks pbn3. I'm trying to adopt the "If it's meant to be it'll be" but I'm still upset.
Yes doing eod will ease pressure but may also run out of steam! [emoji4]
I know my biggest downfall was letting him in the loop. I told him I got +opk and advised when we need to dtd which he said put him under too much pressure. We made two attempts last night but no joy.
This is my 1st month using opk and bbt etc etc and I'm frustrated at the thoughts of doing this again next month! I know that sounds awful given that many people have to do this for months to get bfp. We've been so lucky each time to just conceive so this is all very new to me.

I assume there's no point attempting tonight?

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 06:07 AM
What day is it for you and what day was your pos?

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 06:12 AM
What day is it for you and what day was your pos?

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 06:14 AM
Cant hurt as will cover a delayed o?

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 06:17 AM
Maybe you could try eod and ditch the opks? Start cd12 instead and go through to cd20. That would be 5 bd's in all and every 48 hours. I didn't know you were temping!!?? Do you use ff? I'd love the link if so then I can stalk it [emoji102][emoji23]

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 06:20 AM
Maybe you could try eod and ditch the opks? Start cd12 instead and go through to cd20. That would be 5 bd's in all and every 48 hours. I didn't know you were temping!!?? Do you use ff? I'd love the link if so then I can stalk it [emoji102][emoji23]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkWhen I say temping i did it as much as I could. With two smallies I can often be up during the night with them and taking temp at diff times. Plus I'm 7 weeks post miscarriage so I'm not sure if that plays a role. Yes I use ff. It's great to try figure out what's going on. If I share is it just the graph(don't see my notes etc?)

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 06:21 AM
Cant hurt as will cover a delayed o?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkHad bloating and cramping yday which I assume was O? Nothing today

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 06:23 AM
Yes all I see is what you see in say a screenshot. There's no access involved at all, just allows me to see you chart instantly instead of me bugging you for screenshots [emoji12] but if you're more comfortable doing that (screenshot) then please by all means do that instead :)

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 06:24 AM
Had bloating and cramping yday which I assume was O? Nothing today

Sent from my SM-A520F using TapatalkO pains can happen before, during and even after o. If you oed yesterday you should have seen a temp rise this morning? If you have the previous days temp to compare it to anyway :)

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 06:54 AM
Yes all I see is what you see in say a screenshot. There's no access involved at all, just allows me to see you chart instantly instead of me bugging you for screenshots [emoji12] but if you're more comfortable doing that (screenshot) then please by all means do that instead :)

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkNo problem sharing (You're being so kind helping helping!) Ff won't let me share as says there are too many missing temp data? So here's a screenshot https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/33f2acc65de966d9fb6ce97d855eb2c8.jpg

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 07:05 AM
Why didn't it start a new cycle on cd28 when you recorded medium flow af?? Definately try and attempt today/tonight, hang on just gotta check something on yor chart again. Brb [emoji23]

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 07:07 AM
Yep dtd today and you've achieved an eod pattern anyway which is fantastic for blue!!

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 07:39 AM
Why didn't it start a new cycle on cd28 when you recorded medium flow af?? Definately try and attempt today/tonight, hang on just gotta check something on yor chart again. Brb [emoji23]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI tried to and entered af details but it just kept counting from miscarriage?!

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 07:49 AM
Some kind of glitch maybe [emoji848] what happens if you were to enter heavy or medium flow for tomorrow (just for experimentation sake)

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 08:22 AM
Yep dtd today and you've achieved an eod pattern anyway which is fantastic for blue!!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkOh really?! Super ! I'll try get himself on board this eve but I'll have to snap out of my mood first! [emoji4]

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 08:24 AM
Some kind of glitch maybe [emoji848] what happens if you were to enter heavy or medium flow for tomorrow (just for experimentation sake)

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkJust tried entering heavy flow for today and it starts it back at cd1.

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 08:40 AM
Hmmmm weird!! Maybe try and enter heavy flow for cd28 then and see if it puts you in a new cycle? Gotta be a glitch...

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 08:42 AM
So finally got that ff app to update to cd1 when at arrived end oct. Does this change anything??https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/b8ad8fd13181c02a4a36a66301ebd546.jpg

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 08:45 AM
Yay!!! No that's all good now! I'm off to sleep so will check in tomorrow :) Good luck with your attempt today and fx dh is feeling a little more relaxed [emoji120]

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 08:49 AM
Yay!!! No that's all good now! I'm off to sleep so will check in tomorrow :) Good luck with your attempt today and fx dh is feeling a little more relaxed [emoji120]

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 04:13 PM
How'd it go dreaming?! Were you able to get an attempt in? I have no idea what time it is where you are! Can you post a screenshot of your chart after you put in the mornings temp!

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 04:16 PM
How'd it go dreaming?! Were you able to get an attempt in? I have no idea what time it is where you are! Can you post a screenshot of your chart after you put in the mornings temp!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkMorning!(for u) it's 8:15pm here. I'm not long home from work and exercise class. Hoping it'll work out tonight and will post morning screenshot [emoji4]

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Pbn3
November 16th, 2017, 04:20 PM
No worries lol!! Ok so we have an approx 10 hour difference as its 6.15am here [emoji3] Good luck for tonight and maybe just dont say anything about 'having' to bd as an attempt. Just take matters into your own hands [emoji6][emoji6] and get things going [emoji16]

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DreamingRainbow
November 16th, 2017, 04:25 PM
No worries lol!! Ok so we have an approx 10 hour difference as its 6.15am here [emoji3] Good luck for tonight and maybe just dont say anything about 'having' to bd as an attempt. Just take matters into your own hands [emoji6][emoji6] and get things going [emoji16]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkYou're up early! Won't say anything but will chance my arm when we go to bed. Fingers crossed !

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Momwithlove
November 17th, 2017, 03:34 AM
help me! I am so stressed. the plan was to make the first sway attempt in December. This week I decided on cd13 to test ovulation with opk. my cycle length varies from 26 days to 30 days. the last month it took 26 days. I had a dark line in the morning and evening on CD13. Was this my highest peak? Because the next day (CD14) the line became lighter again !! we had unprotected sex on CD14 in the night. it was unplanned! I didnt had the big O and even didnt use preseed!! I had a perfect plan for the sway in my mind but now it seems to go wrong because IF the line on CD13 was the high peak than I have missed he first attempt at that day and only had one attempt at the night of O! Should i have one attempt tonight (night on CD15) or should I wait and continu with testing opk with the hope that the dark line on CD13 wasn’t the highest peak??? And if the line WAS the the highest peak how should I continu with the bd pattern??? I am so sad right now!

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 04:09 AM
Mum with love that top opk looks pretty darn close to a pos especially for an IC.... you can o anywhere from 12-48 hours after first pos opk (generally its the next day but I've seen plenty of people o the following, sometimes later) If your cycle is usually between 26-30 days then its very possible its your pos. Is your cm still fertile? Regardless of if you have or haven't oed please don't stress too much as its very hard to conceive from one attempt ESPECIALLY on o day (if it was). Remember sperm need up to 12 hours to capicitate in order to penetrate an egg and there's only a very short time for ready sperm to meet egg at ovulation. If you're unsure and if cm is still fertile I'd probably go again as it will either be too late to matter or you end up with two attempts! Win win [emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 04:49 AM
help me! I am so stressed. the plan was to make the first sway attempt in December. This week I decided on cd13 to test ovulation with opk. my cycle length varies from 26 days to 30 days. the last month it took 26 days. I had a dark line in the morning and evening on CD13. Was this my highest peak? Because the next day (CD14) the line became lighter again !! we had unprotected sex on CD14 in the night. it was unplanned! I didnt had the big O and even didnt use preseed!! I had a perfect plan for the sway in my mind but now it seems to go wrong because IF the line on CD13 was the high peak than I have missed he first attempt at that day and only had one attempt at the night of O! Should i have one attempt tonight (night on CD15) or should I wait and continu with testing opk with the hope that the dark line on CD13 wasn’t the highest peak??? And if the line WAS the the highest peak how should I continu with the bd pattern??? I am so sad right now!

38223Hi momwithlove. From what I'm learning on here, u did great to bd on night of O and that may be all u need. Yes I think u should bd tonight in case of delayed O.
U don't necessarily need preseed if u have enough cm yourself and I remember atomic saying preseed doesn't guarantee boy. I did use it when ttc#2 and I had a girl.
I think you're on tww now? (Me too [emoji4])
I know it's soooo hard but try not to stress too much, it's out of our control now. I've been stressing (as u can see from thread above) as didn't bd on night of O which I'm gutted about but I just have to roll with it now and wait and see.

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Momwithlove
November 17th, 2017, 04:51 AM
Mum with love that top opk looks pretty darn close to a pos especially for an IC.... you can o anywhere from 12-48 hours after first pos opk (generally its the next day but I've seen plenty of people o the following, sometimes later) If your cycle is usually between 26-30 days then its very possible its your pos. Is your cm still fertile? Regardless of if you have or haven't oed please don't stress too much as its very hard to conceive from one attempt ESPECIALLY on o day (if it was). Remember sperm need up to 12 hours to capicitate in order to penetrate an egg and there's only a very short time for ready sperm to meet egg at ovulation. If you're unsure and if cm is still fertile I'd probably go again as it will either be too late to matter or you end up with two attempts! Win win [emoji3]

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Thanks for you answer!! I will try one attempt tonight (CD15) wish me luck!!!

DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 04:52 AM
You're up early! Won't say anything but will chance my arm when we go to bed. Fingers crossed !

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Momwithlove
November 17th, 2017, 04:55 AM
Hi momwithlove. From what I'm learning on here, u did great to bd on night of O and that may be all u need. Yes I think u should bd tonight in case of delayed O.
U don't necessarily need preseed if u have enough cm yourself and I remember atomic saying preseed doesn't guarantee boy. I did use it when ttc#2 and I had a girl.
I think you're on tww now? (Me too [emoji4])
I know it's soooo hard but try not to stress too much, it's out of our control now. I've been stressing (as u can see from thread above) as didn't bd on night of O which I'm gutted about but I just have to roll with it now and wait and see.

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I know it is so hard! Because I had a perfect plan in my mind but as you know DH and I are not at the same page! That’s why I was shocked when he didn’t pull out. TMI sorry.

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:01 AM
Good luck momwithlove!!! How awesome you and dreaming will be in the 2ww together [emoji3]

Dreaming that's a nice temp rise and I look forward to seeing the next few days temps but I'd be happy if I were you and would be fairly confident you've oed [emoji3] oh and I seen above you mentioned to momwithlove that you were bummed you didn't get an attempt in night of o? Well you have! You have a temp spike that is a very promising sign that o occured between temping yesterday morning and this morning so your attempt last night is considered day of o attempt. Plus you have an eod pattern which is fantastic for blue [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 06:26 AM
No worries lol!! Ok so we have an approx 10 hour difference as its 6.15am here [emoji3] Good luck for tonight and maybe just dont say anything about 'having' to bd as an attempt. Just take matters into your own hands [emoji6][emoji6] and get things going [emoji16]

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 06:32 AM
Hi dreaming!!! I actually posted a message to you just above [emoji121][emoji23] no way to know if the attempt was too late as you may have oed anytime prior to temping this morning from yesterday morning. Day of o attempts rarely end up in conception (of course it can happen though) but its the eod pattern that counts and sways blue! Think of it as a steady supply of fresh, healthy swimmers just waiting for that egg to arrive [emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 06:56 AM
Good luck momwithlove!!! How awesome you and dreaming will be in the 2ww together [emoji3]

Dreaming that's a nice temp rise and I look forward to seeing the next few days temps but I'd be happy if I were you and would be fairly confident you've oed [emoji3] oh and I seen above you mentioned to momwithlove that you were bummed you didn't get an attempt in night of o? Well you have! You have a temp spike that is a very promising sign that o occured between temping yesterday morning and this morning so your attempt last night is considered day of o attempt. Plus you have an eod pattern which is fantastic for blue [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkHiya,
Sorry i missed your post. Im getting lost with all of them. Oh is it?! (Last night O day) you're so knowledgeable !
2 more questions (sorry):
1. Should we attempt bd tonight? [emoji42]
2. When can we stop the boy diet and just eat normally?

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 07:28 AM
1. Up to you! Certainly cant hurt any and would be good back up anyway. It looks very promising that o has happened with that spike in temp and your pos opk being two cd's earlier but we won't know for sure 100% until we have a couple more temps so if you can another attempt in for just in case that's great!! If you cant then I certainly wouldn't stress about it as you could always just bd the following night if something goes wonky temp wise and keep in with eod :)

2. I'd stay on the boy diet for now. I wouldn't stop until your bfp. By all means though give yourself a day or two break from it as it wont affect anything :)

There's another thing you ladies could try if you like that's said to help with implantation. From either 3-7, 4-8 or 5-9dpo eat a cup of pineapple a day making sure you include the core. The core contains a natural blood thinner (bromelain) that is said to assist implantation. It's obviously not of any help if the egg isn't fertilised but worth a shot if it is. At the end of the day it cant hurt anything whether it does indeed help or not and the upside is, at the least, you get to eat delicious fresh pineapple [emoji3][emoji531]

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 09:28 AM
1. Up to you! Certainly cant hurt any and would be good back up anyway. It looks very promising that o has happened with that spike in temp and your pos opk being two cd's earlier but we won't know for sure 100% until we have a couple more temps so if you can another attempt in for just in case that's great!! If you cant then I certainly wouldn't stress about it as you could always just bd the following night if something goes wonky temp wise and keep in with eod :)

2. I'd stay on the boy diet for now. I wouldn't stop until your bfp. By all means though give yourself a day or two break from it as it wont affect anything :)

There's another thing you ladies could try if you like that's said to help with implantation. From either 3-7, 4-8 or 5-9dpo eat a cup of pineapple a day making sure you include the core. The core contains a natural blood thinner (bromelain) that is said to assist implantation. It's obviously not of any help if the egg isn't fertilised but worth a shot if it is. At the end of the day it cant hurt anything whether it does indeed help or not and the upside is, at the least, you get to eat delicious fresh pineapple [emoji3][emoji531]

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Will see how tonight goes of it happens it happens. Will keep taking bbt to monitor temp.
I'll stick with diet until bfp but my face is so bloated [emoji200]

I'm off to buy some pineapple ! I assume this is day 1 so I'll start eating it 2 days from now x

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 12:32 PM
What does pineapple so dreamin rainbow? Your attempts and sway looks great, Well done �� I’m pretty convinced I’m not ovulating this month and no idea why I wouldnt, still no +opk in cheapies or clearblue. Still getting ewcm on my pants sometimes but with my cold I’m considering it’s running down from my nose haha.. actually it’s quite a strange thick ewcm but maybe that’s the sway tactics. I don’t feel in the mood what so ever Which is concerning me. My temps haven’t indicated ovulation and my opk lines have gone from light to almost non existent. IF I already ovulated and missed the surge I had no other signs what so ever.. all very strange and making me super paranoid ☹️

Momwithlove
November 17th, 2017, 04:49 PM
As you know I am from spain and today would be (what i think) O+1. We had yesterday one attemt at Night and wanted to continu with another tonight. Butttttt my husband came back from work and after dinner he went to bed for an powernap! It is now 9:40 pm and he is still sleeping!! I guess He will sleep till tomorrow morning. he has to get up early tomorrow to go to work. Only what I had is one attempt at O-night and that’s it!! I have done my best to follow the diet as accurately as possible and now I just end up with only one bd attempt. I am so sad right now! Should i try for another attempt tomorrow? Would this be helpful?

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 04:54 PM
Cc5025 read the post above dreamings which explains the pineapple :) Can you post a screenshot of your chart? Happy to take a look [emoji3]

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 04:58 PM
Thank you so much ... Hope this file attachment works


QUOTE=Pbn3;954813]Cc5025 read the post above dreamings which explains the pineapple :) Can you post a screenshot of your chart? Happy to take a look [emoji3]

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:04 PM
Momwithlove I'd just leave it now and try again next cycle. Honestly if cd14 was your o day there is only a small chance of conception, it really is unlikely especially if your bd was that night rather than earlier in the day. If you didnt o on cd14 and did today (cd15) then yes you'll have just the one attempt but if you've been good with the diet then that is the main factor. Number of attempts for conceiving both blue and pink have shown a trend that indicates there may be something to it but there have been plenty of opposites too. Think of the diet as the biggest factor and the moderate exercise, number of attempts etc as little nudges. Hang in there! Just get through this 2ww and then regroup on cd1.

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 05:05 PM
Also as you can see my opks are no where near dark, I’ve been testing with cheapies in afternoon and sometimes evening and clearblue with fmu both nothing. Started testing with opks since cd9

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:07 PM
Cc5025 I totally agree that it doesn't look like you've oed. Is this your first cycle temping? If not can you post a link to your chart so I can look at the previous one or can you screenshot it as well?

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:09 PM
Is your cb digi still an open circle or flashing smiley? And yep this can happen where your line starts darkening then lightens and comes back in again.

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 05:12 PM
This is my second month temping and first month of opks. The first month I was only trying it out to see a pattern and stupidly stopped at a time that I likely ovulated. I changed thermometers with the cycles too as the first one gave a result in seconds which I didn’t trust... but here it is if it helps any 🙂 thank you so much for helping


QUOTE=Pbn3;954820]Cc5025 I totally agree that it doesn't look like you've oed. Is this your first cycle temping? If not can you post a link to your chart so I can look at the previous one or can you screenshot it as well?

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Momwithlove
November 17th, 2017, 05:13 PM
Momwithlove I'd just leave it now and try again next cycle. Honestly if cd14 was your o day there is only a small chance of conception, it really is unlikely especially if your bd was that night rather than earlier in the day. If you didnt o on cd14 and did today (cd15) then yes you'll have just the one attempt but if you've been good with the diet then that is the main factor. Number of attempts for conceiving both blue and pink have shown a trend that indicates there may be something to it but there have been plenty of opposites too. Think of the diet as the biggest factor and the moderate exercise, number of attempts etc as little nudges. Hang in there! Just get through this 2ww and then regroup on cd1.

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You’re right it does not make sense to remain disappointed. Thanks for your help!

Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 05:13 PM
It’s the pink one so it’s just a solid circle no smiley in sight ☹️

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:29 PM
No worries cc5025! That previous chart shows no indication of o temp wise either I'm afraid so there's a good chance you are oing later in your cycle than you think :) Keep going with the opks. I think there's a good chance you'll see a pos opk sometime this week. Remember a surge can come in from one day to the next so try not let the light opks discourage you because you never know, the next one you do may be dark and the following one positive so try and keep thay in mind each time you test :)

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:30 PM
You’re right it does not make sense to remain disappointed. Thanks for your help!No worries [emoji173]

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:34 PM
It’s the pink one so it’s just a solid circle no smiley in sight [emoji852]️Have you checked the instructions that fmu can be used with these? As far as I'm aware it's only the cb dual hormone digis that use fmu and the other regular type (the ones you have) are recommended for the usual between 1pm - 3pm? They may have changed that though but can you double check?

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 05:35 PM
Pbn3 you're so knowledgeable and so kind to help us! [emoji173] Thank u again.

Momwithlove the pineapple was suggested to help with implantation.

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Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 05:43 PM
Thank you dreaming xx I've learnt a lot being on here and still remember how little I knew when I first started. There were ladies who were kind enough to help me so I want to pay it back while I still can [emoji3] Don't forget ladies there is also a ttc & 2ww combined thread running with both blue and pink swayers!

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 05:54 PM
Yes it says on instructions that it can be tested any time of day but should not urinate 4 hours before testing, I’m positive it even recommended fmu for that reason.

My cycles are clockwork 28-30days so if I ovulate much later it’s problematic ovulation anyway. I have 2 children already, but it’s been 8 years since I did this, so I’m getting a little concerned that I might actually have fertility issues that I didn’t know about! I was reading about polycystic ovary syndrome last night and I can tick off most of the symptoms other than that I still get regular periods but read that regular periods can still be possible. I’m only 34 and out the blue hubby suggested we extend our family, We haven’t been ttc yet as I’m waiting on confirming My fertile period before dtd.

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 06:05 PM
Why do you think a later ovulation is problematic? Your last two cycles have been 31 days so providing you o by say cd20 your lp would be perfectly fine to support a pregnancy. It's only if it falls below 10 that it may be an issue. I'd stop using your digis for now and save them as a back up when you cheapies start darkening. Save your urine samples from each cheapie test until you read it so if it looks like the line is dark you can dip the digi in the same sample to see if it gives you a smiley. Will save you some dollars doing it that way. And keep temping! We'll hopefully be able to get a great interpretation of your chart by end of cycle [emoji3] Are you temping orally or vaginally?

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 06:18 PM
I hope your right and it comes in next few days but you know that I just have a feeling... only 3 days away from cd20, no signs of o except a little bit of ewcm this past couple of days a couple of times when I wiped. Cm inside seems to be not very elasticy and not much of it. I have a posterior cervix so I really struggle to reach near the cervix and don’t like touching around that far back (when I go for smear they need to use the longest speculum). I temp vaginally and at same time every morning x

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 06:23 PM
I wouldn't worry about trying to read you cervix then, just stick to opks and temping. Happy to hear you temp vaginally! It's so much more accurate! I'll be stalking for your opk updates over the next few days and be hoping like mad to see a pos [emoji120][emoji120]

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 06:29 PM
Aw thank you, you are so lovely. I appreciate this so much, I’ll definitely be on with any updates ��

QUOTE=Pbn3;954852]I wouldn't worry about trying to read you cervix then, just stick to opks and temping. Happy to hear you temp vaginally! It's so much more accurate! I'll be stalkiwng for your opk updates over the next few days and be hoping like mad to see a pos [emoji120][emoji120]

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 06:32 PM
Thank you dreaming xx I've learnt a lot being on here and still remember how little I knew when I first started. There were ladies who were kind enough to help me so I want to pay it back while I still can [emoji3] Don't forget ladies there is also a ttc & 2ww combined thread running with both blue and pink swayers!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkIs there? I'm new to this site and the effort in ttc! Even dh has said how we have 2 children is astounding! [emoji23]
But u are very kind, especially being so close to due date (yay!!) To take the time to help others x

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 06:36 PM
I hope your right and it comes in next few days but you know that I just have a feeling... only 3 days away from cd20, no signs of o except a little bit of ewcm this past couple of days a couple of times when I wiped. Cm inside seems to be not very elasticy and not much of it. I have a posterior cervix so I really struggle to reach near the cervix and don’t like touching around that far back (when I go for smear they need to use the longest speculum). I temp vaginally and at same time every morning x're ewcm could u start taking robitussin couch medicine? I did this cycle (recommended here). I noticed big increase in ewcm....this may be just because I'm paying attention to my body and cycle but I do believe this helped. Might help? X

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DreamingRainbow
November 17th, 2017, 06:37 PM
I hope your right and it comes in next few days but you know that I just have a feeling... only 3 days away from cd20, no signs of o except a little bit of ewcm this past couple of days a couple of times when I wiped. Cm inside seems to be not very elasticy and not much of it. I have a posterior cervix so I really struggle to reach near the cervix and don’t like touching around that far back (when I go for smear they need to use the longest speculum). I temp vaginally and at same time every morning xPlease Excuse my ignorance but telling vaginally - 1. Is this more accurate than orally? 2. Do u need a special thermometer?

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Cc5025
November 17th, 2017, 07:12 PM
Dreaming rainbow I’ve been taking robitussin 2-3 times a day for approx 10 days aswell as a glass of grapefruit juice a day but no change what so ever ☹️.
Yes try temp vaginally, it’s the same basal thermometer you use. It’s more accurate as orally can be effected more by room temp and things like sleeping with your mouth open

Pbn3
November 17th, 2017, 09:43 PM
Dreaming don't switch from oral to vaginal temping mid cycle. Hopefully this is your bfp cycle but if not then definately recommend switching next cycle. Once af has finished or you're down to light bleeding/spotting start then. For you first couple goes try inserting the thermometer alongside your index or middle finger and stop at mid knuckle. That will ensure the thermometer head is completely covered for an accurate reading. Once you've done it a few times you get an idea of how far to insert on its own :)

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Cc5025
November 18th, 2017, 10:28 AM
Well this is interesting ���� I’ve not tried with my clear digital yet, I’ll do another cheapie then in a few hours and if positive looking do a clear digi test. My temp stayed exact same as yesterday looks like ovulation could be very soon !!
Only problem is I haven’t taken my supps and hard he diet for 2 days (I took a huff over my weight gain too and decided I was on a diet for a day lol) And I was disheartened over these opks, do you think it would effect my blue sway ? I’ll take supps today’s now. We haven’t been dtd inside eod as decided to wait until +opk if I get a + this evening I’d dtd tonight then morning then tm night isn’t it ? Problem is we dtd protected last night.. could also harm the sway couldn’t it? Also I’ve had a cold this week that also sways pink �� I’m very excited that my body is doing its job ����

Just thinking actually it’s still not dark as the test line so maybe I’ll actually get + tomorrow or day after which would be perfect for my sway..I feel lots of O twinges the... fingers crossed for tomorrow rather than tonight

DreamingRainbow
November 18th, 2017, 11:14 AM
Dreaming don't switch from oral to vaginal temping mid cycle. Hopefully this is your bfp cycle but if not then definately recommend switching next cycle. Once af has finished or you're down to light bleeding/spotting start then. For you first couple goes try inserting the thermometer alongside your index or middle finger and stop at mid knuckle. That will ensure the thermometer head is completely covered for an accurate reading. Once you've done it a few times you get an idea of how far to insert on its own :)

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkHi pbn3 Thanks so much for your advice [emoji4] hopefully I wont need it next month (fingers crossed)

My temp rose again this am. Is there a reason for this/is it a good sign. Or is it because of a lot of wine consumed last night [emoji39]

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twinblues
November 18th, 2017, 03:33 PM
Momwithlove I would have suggested going ahead with more attempts on CD 15 morning and evening just in case. I feel one attempt at ovulation sways pink. Fingers crossed all the same.

Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 03:35 PM
Cc5025 that is looking promising for your surge coming in [emoji3] That opk is not positive but tomorrows might be in which case your bd last is perfect as you'll be starting your 3 x attempts which a healthy, fresh load of swimmers[emoji322][emoji322] Cant wait to see tomorrows opk!!

Also one or two days off diet is not going to 'ruin' you sway! I've seen Atomic stress this point many times.

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dreaming temp going up again could be just from o or the wine or both [emoji6] Excess alcohol can definately elevate your temp. Look forward to seeing tomorrows and you may just get your crosshairs [emoji3]

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DreamingRainbow
November 18th, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dreaming temp going up again could be just from o or the wine or both [emoji6] Excess alcohol can definately elevate your temp. Look forward to seeing tomorrows and you may just get your crosshairs [emoji3]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkOops! But the wine was needed! [emoji4]
What does crosshairs mean?

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 03:48 PM
Oh I understand that all too well [emoji485][emoji23] I popped my head into my local bottleshop the other day just to let my 'friend' behind the counter know I'll be seeing her in a couple months [emoji23][emoji23]

Ff will allocate crosshairs (a large red cross) on your chart once it has enough info combined to believe you've oed. It isn't always correct but your chart is looking pretty clear cut so shouldn't be an issue :)

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Cc5025
November 18th, 2017, 03:53 PM
Thank you �� I did another cheapie opk 4 hours after and it was still lighter than the test line so possibly tomorrow.. I have better ewcm today too, so def looks promising yayyy!
Thank you for the reassurance on HE diet, feeling positive, with many thanks to you pbn3 x


Cc5025 that is looking promising for your surge coming in [emoji3] That opk is not positive but tomorrows might be in which case your bd last is perfect as you'll be starting your 3 x attempts which a healthy, fresh load of swimmers[emoji322][emoji322] Cant wait to see tomorrows opk!!

Also one or two days off diet is not going to 'ruin' you sway! I've seen Atomic stress this point many times.

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 04:04 PM
No worries! I know how frustrating it feels when you think you're never going to get a pos opk. And it really is amazing how they can change from one day to the next. Sometimes we just need reminding of this when things aren't going the way we thought they would [emoji173]

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DreamingRainbow
November 18th, 2017, 06:41 PM
Oh I understand that all too well [emoji485][emoji23] I popped my head into my local bottleshop the other day just to let my 'friend' behind the counter know I'll be seeing her in a couple months [emoji23][emoji23]

Ff will allocate crosshairs (a large red cross) on your chart once it has enough info combined to believe you've oed. It isn't always correct but your chart is looking pretty clear cut so shouldn't be an issue :)

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkLol that's so funny[emoji485]! When are u due?... The wine is in sight [emoji4]

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 06:43 PM
I go in on the 10th January [emoji3] - have to deliver via csection

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DreamingRainbow
November 18th, 2017, 06:52 PM
I go in on the 10th January [emoji3] - have to deliver via csection

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkOoh so exciting ! Not long to go at all. My 1st arrived (on her due date) on 14th Jan and she has the most beautiful nature.

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 06:55 PM
Ds1 is a 15th January and my ds2 is the 5th of a different month so I was ecstatic the date worked out to be the 10th as its smack bang in the middle number wise (I have a slight ocd thing with numbers [emoji52]) I had already said to dh and my mum I didn't know how I'd cope with any other date [emoji23]

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Pbn3
November 18th, 2017, 07:31 PM
Meant to do this the other day when I mentioned the monthly ttc & 2ww threads. Here's the link to Novembers :)

November TTC & 2ww (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61659)

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DreamingRainbow
November 18th, 2017, 07:37 PM
Ds1 is a 15th January and my ds2 is the 5th of a different month so I was ecstatic the date worked out to be the 10th as its smack bang in the middle number wise (I have a slight ocd thing with numbers [emoji52]) I had already said to dh and my mum I didn't know how I'd cope with any other date [emoji23]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkAww - you see, it's meant to be! [emoji4] I bet the boys are excited to be big brother's!

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 04:44 AM
Pbn3 I just tested and got my smiley on clear blue ... do we wait until tonight to dtd for blue sway? Temp chart to follow ... x

Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 04:45 AM
Temp chart

Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 05:40 AM
Woohoo for smiley Cc5025 [emoji3][emoji322][emoji322]

That is the usual blue sway recommendation, night of pos opk then AM and PM of the following day. If its easier for you to get an AM and PM attempt in today though then do that and bd anytime tomorrow. Do what works for you and dh xxoo

Remember you're not expecting a spike in temp until 48 hours time and quite possibly may be the following morning (so 72 hours later) Either will be perfect [emoji3]

Good luck and blue dust!!!

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Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 05:44 AM
Cc5025 can you post a link to your chart so I can save it with the others I stalk [emoji102]

If you go into the top rh menu dropbox, select share chart and data, create/preview homepage. Press on the web address/link shown and it will open in your phone browser. Copy the link in the address bar and paste into a post in here :) It shows me only what you see in a screenshot but clearly. It doesn't give any access at all.

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 05:48 AM
You know it’s perfect timing as we are both off work and hubby off tomorrow too but I wanted to do whats best for the sway... AM suited us but We were thinking to wait till PM for best sway results .. When you get the smiley it means O is on the way doesn’t it, not that it’s actuslly happened ? I won’t harm it by waiting till PM won’t we not ? (Scared to miss the best time for sway)

I can’t believe how great it feels to get that smiley !! ��





QUOTE=Pbn3;955051]Woohoo for smiley Cc5025 [emoji3][emoji322][emoji322]

That is the usual blue sway recommendation, night of pos opk then AM and PM of the following day. If its easier for you to get an AM and PM attempt in today though then do that and bd anytime tomorrow. Do what works for you and dh xxoo

Remember you're not expecting a spike in temp until 48 hours time and quite possibly may be the following morning (so 72 hours later) Either will be perfect [emoji3]

Good luck and blue dust!!!

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 05:51 AM
Hope this works ��

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6cee7a

Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 05:58 AM
Well most people generally o anywhere from 12-48 hours after pos opk, the majority the following day. If best blue sway practice is having multiple attempts in then I would assume two today and one tomorrow would give your attempts more chance at actual o. I think its more about having at least two attempts that really count (first PM and following AM when starting in the PM) and one more as back up the following PM to cover a later o (if you fall in the category of oing 2nd day after pos opk). Plus many people use just the dip test opks which means they aren't getting a pos until afternoon, so it makes sense that they do a PM, AM and PM as its already well past morning when they get their pos. Does that make sense? I don't believe there is any magic combo of when to actually start your attempts, its more about getting multiple attempts in however that is achieved, so honestly, if dtd twice today and once tomorrow works best then I'd go for it. As a back up, you could create a thread under the ttc a boy forum asking others for urgent advice and that way hopefully you'll have more than just my input which would be awesome in helping you make a decision if you get some answers soon :)

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Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 06:00 AM
That link worked perfect!

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 06:14 AM
Ill put a Wee post on for their opinion, won’t do any harm. I think it will be tonight tho as we are out of bed and not the right mood to ttc with the 2 kids around hehe so i think night time it is now. Im making roast beef dinner today too so we shall overload on the protein hehe and hubby can have a wee coffee to waken up the boy swimmers before dtd tonight too... i think if we wait till tonight we will feel better prepared to tick all the boxes. I just worry that I could have had a + last night without knowing but I need to get timing out my head lol. Ds was conceived in a successful shettles sway so it’s difficult to push that thought aside .. altho I’m sure we dtd then right after a +opk !

Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 08:04 AM
Cc5025 here's a link to a recent (as in few months ago) thread where someone is asking about number of attempts and if you read atomics response it looks as though she believes the more attempts in fertile window the better (1-o, 2-o and even 3-o) You are definately in your fertile window having a pos opk this morning so again I'd recommend going for the 2 attempts today while it may be possible (you and dh both being home).

Is 4 attempts too many? (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60210)

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 09:04 AM
Thank you so much, it does look like atomic would have recommended to dtd this morning but I don’t understand if that was the case then why don’t we stay dtd on the day of +opk.. why is it always stated on the night of. I know it won’t be because but needs to be night time but I’m thinking it’s to ensure theres a bit of a time between the surge and Ovulation. (Ive read other sites recommend waiting 12 hours after +opk)

Hubby is away doing diy things now so I’ve no chance of getting him to bed lol, it will have to wait until tonight. I did a cheapie test tho 10 mins ago to check the surge wasnt gone (I don’t know how long you get a + for) and it’s still a very strong positive. It’s 1pm here now so another 9 hours we should be ready to rumble hehe.

I don’t take birth control as it doesn’t react well with me so it’s been a long time since we have had unprotected ejaculation. I didn’t want it to be a rushed dtd type of thing for the sake of getting in extra attempts. If it’s to be it will be but i still wanted it to be within the rules of blue sway. If I’d have known we could have done it this morning stil within the sway we definitely would have but main thing for me is we will still be following the sway to plan by doing it tonight, tm am & pm. Don’t want the effect the swimmers either by using up all the good resources, I think 4 times would be too much x


Cc5025 here's a link to a recent (as in few months ago) thread where someone is asking about number of attempts and if you read atomics response it looks as though she believes the more attempts in fertile window the better (1-o, 2-o and even 3-o) You are definately in your fertile window having a pos opk this morning so again I'd recommend going for the 2 attempts today while it may be possible (you and dh both being home).

Is 4 attempts too many? (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60210)

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Cc5025
November 19th, 2017, 10:22 AM
I found this ... I guess we say evening of +opk to allow for the time gap maybe incase time does play any factor but as you say it’s likely all the factors together that play a part of a successful sway. I feel content that waiting till tonight won’t harm the sway 😊

Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Morning Cc5025!! Well its only 5am for me so going to try get back to sleep but just wanted to say I'm super happy to see you've worked out what feels right for you (waiting till PM) because that's all that matters when it comes down to it [emoji3] I cant read that attachment you posted but you sound very happy with you decision which is the best outcome possible! Good luck and blue dust [emoji322] I'll check back in later this morning xxoo

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DreamingRainbow
November 19th, 2017, 06:01 PM
So I've eaten 2 slices of pineapple including the core. 3 dpo. No symptoms at all bar heartburn which I'm putting down to the HE diet and putting on weight!

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Pbn3
November 19th, 2017, 06:23 PM
Dreaming can you start sharing screenshots of your chart once you get to 6dpo? Its those temps onwards that can be exciting [emoji3] You won't srart experiencing symptoms until after implantation takes place, and maybe not even then. Yay for the pineapple!!

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