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Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 11:31 AM
Hi all, I know 2000mcg folic acid is advised when swaying blue, does it need to be 2000? Mine are the recommended 400 per tablet so taking 5 of these a day is freaking me out a bit 🙈. Are we all taking 2000? I know I shouldn’t google but I came across articles saying excessive amounts of folic acid is linked to increased risk of autism. I know it’s individual choice on what we do to sway blue so was just wondering how everyone else feels about it x

ksmom
October 15th, 2017, 12:43 PM
I took 2000 mcg folate while swaying (I swayed pink). It's what Atomic recommended to me after I had a couple of losses. I've never heard of a link between autism and folic acid. Where did you read that? Frankly a lot of people out there claim that this and that cause autism in an effort to find someone/something to blame.

Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 12:52 PM
I know I agree, nothings safe theses days according to google ! There are a few articles on it if you have a wee search, here is a telegraph article on it:
Autism linked to overdose of folate and vitamin B12 during pregnancy (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/11/autism-linked-to-overdose-of-folate-and-vitamin-b12-during-pregn/)

Nonerz
October 15th, 2017, 02:49 PM
I remember reading that article. What’s annoying is that it doesn’t tell us what is “too much” folic acid or b12. So, it’s not clear if these women actually took way too much or they were taking normal amounts and their body somehow stored high levels of the vitamins.


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XXforhubby
October 15th, 2017, 03:11 PM
I remember reading that article. What’s annoying is that it doesn’t tell us what is “too much” folic acid or b12. So, it’s not clear if these women actually took way too much or they were taking normal amounts and their body somehow stored high levels of the vitamins.


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I know the study you’re referring to and it’s high amounts of Folic Acid for mother’s that have MTHR, which is the disorder of breaking down and using Folic Acid. These women need Folate instead. For the general population, Folic Acid is fine in any amount. If you have the disorder, taking high amounts of Folic Acid only stay unusable in your body, which can cause a problem.

You’ll be fine!


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Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 03:46 PM
How misleading �� so does everyone take 2000mcg for blue sway? I’m gonna go for it �� will be ttc in my next cycle so if I can fit in the 5 a day from now I’ll at least feel I’ve done everything I could for the sway. With both my kids (one girl one boy) I only ever took 400mcg so it’s just the fear of change and going over the norms I think x

DreamingRainbow
October 15th, 2017, 04:56 PM
Interesting! I've only started taking 800mcg of folate and there's 300mcg in the daily multi vit. Atomic had recommended 1200mcg daily for me. Wonder if I should up the amount?

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DreamingRainbow
October 15th, 2017, 04:57 PM
Interesting! I've only started taking 800mcg of folate and there's 300mcg in the daily multi vit. Atomic had recommended 1200mcg daily for me. Wonder if I should up the amount?

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Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 05:54 PM
Yes dreamingrainbow, atomic’s min recommended supps for blue sway are:

multivits
500 mg fish oil
Vit D 1000 Iu
Folic acid or folate to 2000 mcg

As far as I’m reading tho the boy swayers all take a min 2000 mcg and say you can’t overdose or anything with it as you ‘pee out’ any excess

DreamingRainbow
October 15th, 2017, 06:28 PM
Yes dreamingrainbow, atomic’s min recommended supps for blue sway are:

multivits
500 mg fish oil
Vit D 1000 Iu
Folic acid or folate to 2000 mcg

As far as I’m reading tho the boy swayers all take a min 2000 mcg and say you can’t overdose or anything with it as you ‘pee out’ any excessThanks Cc5025. I'm new to this so it's a steep learning curve [emoji4]

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Throwaway_panther
October 15th, 2017, 06:55 PM
I'm taking 1800 of folate from supplements assuming I'm getting the rest from my diet. Not sure if I should do more now though with my RPL

Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 08:04 PM
Me too, hopefully success for us all 😊

Cc5025
October 15th, 2017, 08:07 PM
Some people take lots more depending on circumstances but generally advised on here to aim for up to 2000 for boy sway as far as I can see x


I'm taking 1800 of folate from supplements assuming I'm getting the rest from my diet. Not sure if I should do more now though with my RPL

atomic sagebrush
October 16th, 2017, 03:33 PM
I had a baby with a neural tube defect when I was taking 800 mcg and eating a very healthy diet. I know some sources say take only 400 but that did not prevent my son's NTD and many sources have pregnant women take 800-1000 mcg a day just as a matter of course. Additionally some people on here are drinking green tea or taking other supplements that actually cause a depletion of folic acid and so I stand by the 2000.

After you have a baby with an NTD you are PRESCRIBED by doctors in US, UK, and AUS. to take 4000-5000 mcg daily in the first trimester. So I took it two times with my two subsequent pregnancies and neither are autistic nor have an NTD.

I have read the study you are referring to and that was levels of folic acid in the mother's blood****** at birth. These women had some inability to get rid of folic acid that is NOT SHARED by most people. Most of us just pee it right out with no issues. Additionally, we wean off the folic acid at the end of the first trimester. We do not continue with the higher dose to birth or even much beyond the first tri. So I do not believe this is in any way a concern or issue.

If you're worried about it, just take folate instead. It is better tolerated even by those who have the inability to get rid of folic acid and it works great fore veryone.

atomic sagebrush
October 16th, 2017, 03:36 PM
I took 2000 mcg folate while swaying (I swayed pink). It's what Atomic recommended to me after I had a couple of losses. I've never heard of a link between autism and folic acid. Where did you read that? Frankly a lot of people out there claim that this and that cause autism in an effort to find someone/something to blame.

There was one study that found these massively high levels of folic acid and B12 at the END of a pregnancy, at the time of birth were linked to autism. But what's more these levels could not have developed if the woman's body was functioning normally. IT isn't supposed to build up in your body like that and the women were not necessarily even taking large doses of the stuff, it just built up inside their bodies for reasons no one knows.

Since we wean off of the folic at the end of the first trimester anyway none of this is relevant to our sway methods.

Anyone concerned, take folate. Folate is better. The problem is, it's massively expensive and most people do just fine on folic acid. If I insisted on folate, lots of people who can't afford it won't take anything, and unlike all this speculation folic acid/folate is 100% proven to prevent NTD that is the cause of many, many miscarriages and birth defects.

atomic sagebrush
October 16th, 2017, 03:40 PM
I remember reading that article. What’s annoying is that it doesn’t tell us what is “too much” folic acid or b12. So, it’s not clear if these women actually took way too much or they were taking normal amounts and their body somehow stored high levels of the vitamins.


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EXACTLY and nor do they even know. The scientists speculate that they may have even been getting it from fortified foods (which are kind of hard to avoid since they put the FA in everything nowadays)

atomic sagebrush
October 16th, 2017, 03:41 PM
Interesting! I've only started taking 800mcg of folate and there's 300mcg in the daily multi vit. Atomic had recommended 1200mcg daily for me. Wonder if I should up the amount?

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I thought you were taking 2 800's and a 300 (total 1900) sorry for mistake

DreamingRainbow
October 16th, 2017, 04:21 PM
I thought you were taking 2 800's and a 300 (total 1900) sorry for mistakeSorry that must have been my error. The folate tabs are 400ug so i was taking 2 of them and the multivit has 300ug of folic acid.
I'll take 4 tabs of the folate to make 1600ug plus the 300ug of folic acid will bring me to 1900 of a Mix of folate and folic acid. Is that enough or should I take another folate tab to bring me to 2000ug folate and 300ug folic acid from multivit?

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atomic sagebrush
October 16th, 2017, 05:29 PM
No I'm sure it was me, I read tons of posts and some days I do make the occasional error, apologies!

1900 is enough. :agree: There is no magic to the 2000, I have to pick a number but 1900 is close enough.

Cc5025
October 17th, 2017, 12:28 PM
Omg I have completely confused myself with this !! I’ve just realised My folic acid is 400 ug (the funny international symbol for the u) so it’s not 400 mcg ... I’m so confused what does 400 ug convert to mcg ??

atomic sagebrush
October 17th, 2017, 12:45 PM
ug for folic acid IS micrograms (mcg). They're the same thing when it comes to folic/folate. ug and mcg are the same

Cc5025
October 17th, 2017, 02:03 PM
Thank you so much, Phew panic over .. I picked up Vit D today in boots that was in UD asked them to convert in mg and they didn’t know ! I googled it to find out it wasn’t the right dosage... but that doesn’t convert as the same like the folic acid one does ... very confusing ��

Momwithlove
October 18th, 2017, 03:57 AM
I am also taking 400 per tablet

atomic sagebrush
October 18th, 2017, 12:53 PM
Thank you so much, Phew panic over .. I picked up Vit D today in boots that was in UD asked them to convert in mg and they didn’t know ! I googled it to find out it wasn’t the right dosage... but that doesn’t convert as the same like the folic acid one does ... very confusing ��

Vit D, for some reason, is measured in IU "international units" and so that is what I have you guys use.

1000 IU. NOT MG

Lmboschma
October 27th, 2017, 07:54 AM
Those of you taking Folate, what brands are good? I want to switch to folate, after a recent miscarriage as Atomic recommended it! Right now, I’m taking 6 of the 400mg folic acid pills, spread through the day. I want this next one to stick, although a girl would be pretty rad, considering I have 4 boys! So, I’m not swaying blue. Just found this thread when I searched for folate!

XXforhubby
October 27th, 2017, 08:36 AM
Those of you taking Folate, what brands are good? I want to switch to folate, after a recent miscarriage as Atomic recommended it! Right now, I’m taking 6 of the 400mg folic acid pills, spread through the day. I want this next one to stick, although a girl would be pretty rad, considering I have 4 boys! So, I’m not swaying blue. Just found this thread when I searched for folate!

I took Solgar brand Folate in 800mcg. I think it also comes in 400mcg as well.

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Lmboschma
October 27th, 2017, 03:27 PM
I took Solgar brand Folate in 800mcg. I think it also comes in 400mcg as well.

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Thank you! I’ll go order some now! Wonder if I can return the two pack of folic acid I ordered from amazon the other day? :)

XXforhubby
October 27th, 2017, 04:25 PM
You could try, if it’s unopened. It may be worth contacting the seller!


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Cc5025
October 27th, 2017, 06:11 PM
I’m only taking folic acid so can’t help but just wanted to say good luck on your pink sway ��

QUOTE=Lmboschma;950175]Those of you taking Folate, what brands are good? I want to switch to folate, after a recent miscarriage as Atomic recommended it! Right now, I’m taking 6 of the 400mg folic acid pills, spread through the day. I want this next one to stick, although a girl would be pretty rad, considering I have 4 boys! So, I’m not swaying blue. Just found this thread when I searched for folate![/QUOTE]

DreamingRainbow
October 27th, 2017, 06:37 PM
Those of you taking Folate, what brands are good? I want to switch to folate, after a recent miscarriage as Atomic recommended it! Right now, I’m taking 6 of the 400mg folic acid pills, spread through the day. I want this next one to stick, although a girl would be pretty rad, considering I have 4 boys! So, I’m not swaying blue. Just found this thread when I searched for folate!I'm also taking Solgar brand folate 1000ug x2 daily. My local health food shop ordered them in for me. They usually stock the 400ug one but not 1000ug but was no prob to order in.

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honeybee
October 31st, 2017, 12:46 AM
This is a super helpful post. I need to go see how much folic acid is in my prenatal! And, I also drink green tea daily.

atomic sagebrush
November 1st, 2017, 02:06 PM
This is a super helpful post. I need to go see how much folic acid is in my prenatal! And, I also drink green tea daily.

honeybee do you think the green tea could be mucking up your cycle?? Let's give that a kick to the curb for a few months to see if it's disrupting your LP.

DreamingRainbow
November 1st, 2017, 03:33 PM
Is green tea a no no?

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atomic sagebrush
November 2nd, 2017, 07:27 PM
It can mess up cycles and blocks folate absorption so if you're drinking it you have to be sure to take extra folate or folic acid

Psalms 139:14
November 15th, 2017, 06:18 PM
I am taking 2000 MF of folic acid. I get 400mg if folate from my Women’s one a day vitamin and I’m taking an additional 1600 in folic acid supplements


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atomic sagebrush
November 16th, 2017, 04:53 PM
Are you having irregular cycles though??

honeybee
November 26th, 2017, 09:50 PM
honeybee do you think the green tea could be mucking up your cycle?? Let's give that a kick to the curb for a few months to see if it's disrupting your LP.

Actually, my cycle got messed up when i wasnt drinking it daily, and i had started drinking it daily for general health. I just started drinking raspberry leaf tea daily this cycle.

atomic sagebrush
November 27th, 2017, 02:28 PM
ok. :) just checking since that is something that has screwed up some cycles

vnmora100
November 29th, 2017, 05:07 PM
ok. :) just checking since that is something that has screwed up some cyclesWow this is all interesting information. Im on the wagon as well TTC boy. Plan on starting the sway now for concieving in January or Feb.but im still on birth xontrol, would that affect in any way. Should I just stop the birth control now once I start swaying?

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atomic sagebrush
December 1st, 2017, 02:56 PM
I prefer blue swayers stop the BC as far in advance as possible of your sway to let it get out of your system.

We often use coming off BCP the month of trying, to sway PINK so I strongly suggest blue swayers discontinue it sooner rather than later.

vnmora100
March 12th, 2018, 12:28 PM
ug for folic acid IS micrograms (mcg). They're the same thing when it comes to folic/folate. ug and mcg are the sameHello atomic, would adding a prenatal to my diet be OK? Im already taking woman 1a day, or would they be the same thing.Im not to sure if its too much already

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Parying4agirl
March 12th, 2018, 12:35 PM
Ive been takin 1 tab a day 400
Should I up this now im swaying pink?
Also any fibre supplement recommendations please?

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2018, 01:01 PM
Hello atomic, would adding a prenatal to my diet be OK? Im already taking woman 1a day, or would they be the same thing.Im not to sure if its too much already

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I do answer all questions so if you ask each question just once, it really makes it much easier for me. Otherwise I have to answer the same question repeatedly.

The Women's One a Day has everything a prenatal has. I used it AS my prenatal in my last 3 pregnancies! Do not take both One a Day and a prenatal because that will give you too many nutrients and that could be harmful.

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2018, 01:02 PM
Ive been takin 1 tab a day 400
Should I up this now im swaying pink?
Also any fibre supplement recommendations please?

Yes I like my pink swayers on 1200-1600 mcg folic acid a day.

I don't recommend brands, just take whatever kind of fiber you like that you can get easily where you live. :)