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Psalms 139:14
October 18th, 2017, 11:36 PM
Hi ladies! Last week I visited my midwife due to several months of mid cycle bleeding. (She tested my thyroid which thankfully is functioning perfectly).

She does however want me to start Vitex because it may be a hormonal issue. I know that vitex is girl friendly [emoji31][emoji31] What else can I take as a hormone regulator that is boy friendly? Help!!



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atomic sagebrush
October 19th, 2017, 02:38 PM
Don't do it. Vitex causes more trouble than it fixes.

Have you had your hormones tested to see what is going on??

atomic sagebrush
October 19th, 2017, 02:38 PM
^^^and have you had a transvaginal ultrasound to see if you have fibroids or anything going on with your cervix?

Psalms 139:14
October 19th, 2017, 04:09 PM
^^^and have you had a transvaginal ultrasound to see if you have fibroids or anything going on with your cervix?

No I haven’t had a ultrasound, they mentioned it last week but decided against it.

I did have my thyroid levels checked which came back normal. I was reading that false unicorn root could possibly be a hormone regular, is it boy friendly?


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Psalms 139:14
October 19th, 2017, 04:10 PM
^^^and have you had a transvaginal ultrasound to see if you have fibroids or anything going on with your cervix?

I did have a pap last week at my visit and the midwife commented on how “pink and healthy” it looked. I haven’t gotten the results back yet though


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Birthfree
October 21st, 2017, 11:10 AM
I've only ever had help me (I'm horribly sensitive to anything so herbs have always been my first stop).
Using it I conceived 2 boys. It was to address luteal phase shortness when ttc'ing (I used it to address PMS when not ttc'ing), and I only took it 3m then had a break, took 3 more, etc.
Just my two cents. There's always opposite stories but I'd rather try an herb than artificial hormones or other drugs because my body takes it like a nudge and it goes over well.

atomic sagebrush
October 22nd, 2017, 06:12 PM
No I haven’t had a ultrasound, they mentioned it last week but decided against it.

I did have my thyroid levels checked which came back normal. I was reading that false unicorn root could possibly be a hormone regular, is it boy friendly?


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You need medical care. You need an ultrasound to see if you have polyps or fibroids or something rare, but worse, causing this bleeding and a hormone test to see what your estrogen and progesterone levels are like. A Pap and a thyroid check are not these things and are not adequate for someone who has had MONTHS literal months of midcycle bleeding. This can rarely be a true medical emergency (let me stress RARELY) but throwing herbs at a person without even doing a d@mn ultrasound is just about infuriating to me.

One of the most common reasons for midcycle spotting is low estrogen. Vitex can suppress estrogen even more and if that is what is going on, it will be throwing gasoline on a fire for your fertility let alone a blue sway. I am BEGGING you not to take vitex based on the absolute number of people who I have seen it really, really mess up their cycles for. It helps people with PCOS, and that is IT. And you ahve no way of knowing if you have PCOS or if there is something else going on here since they have not done the appropriate testing to know.

PLEASE do not take either false unicorn root. FUR has gone practically extinct in the wild and what they are currently selling as FUR is this tiny smidge of the stuff mixed with all these other super sketchy Chinese herbs that are unregulated and we don't even know what they do anyway.

atomic sagebrush
October 22nd, 2017, 06:19 PM
I've only ever had help me (I'm horribly sensitive to anything so herbs have always been my first stop).
Using it I conceived 2 boys. It was to address luteal phase shortness when ttc'ing (I used it to address PMS when not ttc'ing), and I only took it 3m then had a break, took 3 more, etc.
Just my two cents. There's always opposite stories but I'd rather try an herb than artificial hormones or other drugs because my body takes it like a nudge and it goes over well.

I appreciate your experience.

Not trying to start anything and apologies in advance (seriously - I'm not angry I am using your post as a jumping off spot and nothing more) but herbs ARE medication, they have medical effects and just because something is natural does not mean it is harmless. Botulism is natural. Strychnine comes from an herb. this whole natural vs. artificial dichotomy is not what people who profit from natural remedies would have you believe and Clomid is a hell of a lot safer than thousands of natural things. (putting soapbox away, I apologize, really not trying to start a fight at all and I do really really appreciate you sharing your experience, thank you)

I personally took vitex twice. I am not saying it's the demon herb (vitex can be ok, stay away from FUR tho becuase it's got too many potential contaminants) but someone who has had midcycle bleeding for months, it is imperative that they are thoroughly checked out for rare, but possible, life threatening conditions and I am coming more from the place not that vitex can never help anyone - it can, esp. PCOSers - but more that several months of midcycle bleeding is concerning and needs investigation, not a bottle of herbs chucked at someone's head on the way out the door.

Birthfree
October 23rd, 2017, 01:11 AM
I appreciate your experience.

Not trying to start anything and apologies in advance (seriously - I'm not angry I am using your post as a jumping off spot and nothing more) but herbs ARE medication, they have medical effects and just because something is natural does not mean it is harmless. Botulism is natural. Strychnine comes from an herb. this whole natural vs. artificial dichotomy is not what people who profit from natural remedies would have you believe and Clomid is a hell of a lot safer than thousands of natural things. (putting soapbox away, I apologize, really not trying to start a fight at all and I do really really appreciate you sharing your experience, thank you)

I personally took vitex twice. I am not saying it's the demon herb (vitex can be ok, stay away from FUR tho becuase it's got too many potential contaminants) but someone who has had midcycle bleeding for months, it is imperative that they are thoroughly checked out for rare, but possible, life threatening conditions and I am coming more from the place not that vitex can never help anyone - it can, esp. PCOSers - but more that several months of midcycle bleeding is concerning and needs investigation, not a bottle of herbs chucked at someone's head on the way out the door.

I didn't say it was harmless. It is not a medication however. I don't pretend it's benign... which is why I take herbs because they do things, but they don't overpower my body like artificial medications.

Every person should get more information about their body's health and treat it as it needs - I did a $250 hormone saliva panel for a month because it was the best information I could get.

Vitex helps far more people than those with PCOS, I'm not sure saying those are only who it helps is really fair. But if you don't like it or recommend it, I don't mind at all.

Months of any issue should be addressed, not guessed at.