View Full Version : Do people get it right first try?
Throwaway_panther
October 20th, 2017, 08:11 AM
Hi HT board -- you're going to be getting all the annoying questions from me now the swaying boards have the last two years lol
I've done tons of digging, and I've seen success rates for women my age/stats anywhere from 30 to 50%. I see that in general, it takes an average of two transfers.
Has anyone on here had success with their first transfer? Does it cost less to do two transfers rather than two cycles? We only have enough for one shot at this, which I realize is unrealistic.
The anxiety of cost, success and time/side effects on the meds are almost making me want to try naturally one more time -- but that doesn't seem realistic for me, either.
nuthinbutpink
October 20th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Hi there. It depends on your age, pretesting and the clinic you choose.
Are all those flowers losses?
Throwaway_panther
October 20th, 2017, 03:12 PM
Yup, all flowers are losses. I'm 28 and the clinic we're at had a 76% live birth rate for under 35 in their 2015 report. I believe 54% total live birth rate for that year. My pretesting had all been normal. I still wonder if I have some low normal results (FT4 and LH are both just barely above the normal line, and estradiol was in the lower third of the normal range). Husband's SA did just come back with some abnormalities though.
nuthinbutpink
October 20th, 2017, 03:56 PM
I would not try IVF for GS until you figure out what is going on.
Did you already do IVF?
Throwaway_panther
October 20th, 2017, 04:15 PM
You might have missed my other posts in the HT boards. We haven't done IVF yet. We're being directed to IVF by my RE because of the RPL -- GS is just the added benefit to me personally. There is no other indications of why I have had losses.
nuthinbutpink
October 20th, 2017, 05:39 PM
I would schedule a consult with Dr Braverman. Something is going on and I would not spend money on IVF until you look into why you have had that many losses. Maybe he can provide some insight. IVF will not correct losing a pregnancy. You have to figure out what is causing that first I think.
Throwaway_panther
October 20th, 2017, 06:22 PM
Er... I'm seeing an RE. IVF with PGD is actually the best prognosis for RPL because of the chromosomal components that don't always get caught in pretesting. I'm a little confused at your response. I'll wait for others to chime in on the question I asked.
ksmom
October 20th, 2017, 06:48 PM
I think maybe what NBP was saying is that if the problem isn't chromosomal, then doing PGD won't stop the losses from happening.
I really do hope you figure out what's going on. Maybe it's just terrible luck! I don't know. Hopefully this gets resolved!
Throwaway_panther
October 20th, 2017, 08:22 PM
Oh got it! Yes, my husband's Semen Analysis results (the LAST of the testing done, if you can believe it) has finally given us answers, which unfortunately really seem to be pointing to PGD for not only a boy, but for a healthy pregnancy.
nuthinbutpink
October 21st, 2017, 04:15 PM
Yes. That's a lot of losses. The odds of having a a fetus healthy enough to implant but then lose it seems really high to me if chromosomes are to blame for each loss. I'm saying there may be an implantation issue and there a number of things that can cause implantation failure. If you DH is not on a fertility vitamin for men and isn't eating/drinking healthy, he needs to start that immediately. You can help sperm a lot but doing simple things. If it is an implantation issue, PGD isn't a magic bullet.
Throwaway_panther
October 21st, 2017, 04:21 PM
Yes. That's a lot of losses. The odds of having a a fetus healthy enough to implant but then lose it seems really high to me if chromosomes are to blame for each loss. I'm saying there may be an implantation issue and there a number of things that can cause implantation failure. If you DH is not on a fertility vitamin for men and isn't eating/drinking healthy, he needs to start that immediately. You can help sperm a lot but doing simple things. If it is an implantation issue, PGD isn't a magic bullet.
We've found that everything I have is normal. He, on the other hand, has morphology showing chromosomal issues with his sperm. He's incredibly healthy, on vitamins, exercises, eats well -- we'd been swaying for a boy for well over a year. The only thing that has changed negatively since my DD is his age as he is now 37.
Again, I was asking if anyone on these HT boards happened to have success first try. A reproductive endocrinologist is who suggested IVF with PGD for me.
atomic sagebrush
October 22nd, 2017, 06:32 PM
I think maybe what NBP was saying is that if the problem isn't chromosomal, then doing PGD won't stop the losses from happening.
I really do hope you figure out what's going on. Maybe it's just terrible luck! I don't know. Hopefully this gets resolved!
:agree: exactly. If this was an autoimmune thing causing the pregnancy losses there is no one better than Dr. Braverman on Planet Earth for that and Nuthin's point is that if it is, putting back a chromosomally normal baby will still end sadly and thus it's best to get everything checked out under the sun first before proceeding. :)
atomic sagebrush
October 22nd, 2017, 06:33 PM
We've found that everything I have is normal. He, on the other hand, has morphology showing chromosomal issues with his sperm. He's incredibly healthy, on vitamins, exercises, eats well -- we'd been swaying for a boy for well over a year. The only thing that has changed negatively since my DD is his age as he is now 37.
Again, I was asking if anyone on these HT boards happened to have success first try. A reproductive endocrinologist is who suggested IVF with PGD for me.
I must have missed that post up till now. :agree: if that's what is going on then they can deal with it. Good luck
Throwaway_panther
October 22nd, 2017, 06:47 PM
I must have missed that post up till now. :agree: if that's what is going on then they can deal with it. Good luck
Yup :( Unfortunately all my research, all my swaying, all my reaching for "maybe my levels aren't normal enough?"
Nope. It was hubby. Good thing I pushed for that semen analysis...
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