Why do you think my friend has 3 boys?

[Girlswaylondon]

Obviously I know we can never truly know why but it bugs me and I'd love to know what you think even if it's just for fun!

My friend has 2 sons and just found out she's expecting a boy again and I could have bet money on her having a girl (am I the only one that does that since swaying lol?!)
She's 30, been a vegetarian for 16 years and is a runner, she trains often for marathons etc. She's very thin despite having pcos, and gets less than 5 hours sleep a night!

Do you think pcos alone has caused her to have 3 boys? I can't work it out! She wasn't actively trying for this 3rd baby and said they'd only had sex once that month!

[XXforhubby]

Her diet must be more like HE despite her other pink factors. Sometimes I think the people who train a lot and do a huge amount of cardio, compensate later by eating a lot. That is just my observation from a friend, who like yours, got a boy from seemingly obvious girl factors going on. Her diet was total HE at the time she conceived. My friend told me she grazes all day and doesn’t have a set meal, despite being vegetarian.

Who knows though? People get opposites all the time from awesome sways and some people don’t sway at all and get their desired gender.


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[4blue2pink]

ive known a few super thin (almost unhealthy looking), health freak, cardio junkie women who barely have time to eat and are always running around on the go still have boys and they were all highly strung and total control freaks, i dunno if that plays a big part but that was the common thing among them when everything else seemed extra pink friendly.

Atomic does talk about the "special mojo" that ruins otherwise good pink sways, maybe they all had that!!

[ksmom]

Who knows. I've seen people with an obvious pink lifestyle get a boy or do all the same things they did with their boys and get a girl. I think I had a good pink sway and still got another boy. Sometimes that's just how it goes. Like others have said, it's also possible she has a very HE diet or maybe she's eating a super carb-y diet which is aggravating her PCOS and swaying blue. No real way of knowing though.

[Girlswaylondon]

Come to think of it I do think she has control freak tendinces! I rarely see her eat as she is chasing after her boys constantly but it could be that she has small snacks all day instead of meals!

SHes so thin she's even thinner than she was in her 20s and she was tiny then!

[ksmom]

I was really thin when I conceived DS3, even skinnier than I was in high school (and I was tiny back then). I've seen quite a few stick skinny women concieve boys and heavier set women concieve girls. I think it has more to do with diet, exercise, number of attempts, etc more than it has to do with weight. I've also seen Atomic theorize that some women who don't eat enough have their bodies think it's starving, causing the body to basically go into survival mode which possibly sways blue. We don't really know how this all works for sure but it certainly is interesting!

[Girlswaylondon]

That would make a lot of sense! It's so interesting isn't it?! I've not gone full vegetarian with my sway and it does give me hope that not all is lost if I do eat some meat as I've been stressing about that!

Thanks for all your input I love reading them!

[Frilly Lady]

When I conceived my boys I was super thin with very little muscle and fat, very busy at work, one sometimes two vegetarian meals a day with only one attempt. But, I was very ocd about things being in the right place and neat and tidy. Then after my first I was diagnosed with an immune disorder linked to sugar. Both I think played a massive part in me getting my boys!

[Throwaway_panther]

You guys are all describing me when I got a girl! And survival mode has a study showing it sways girl! It's still all coin flips, and I think swaying is just trying to nudge the coin a certain way. It can still flip the way we don't want! Or flip far enough around to the other side again lol

[onelastsway]

I find it really fascinating and find myself analysing everyone around me to see if they 'should' have the gender they do - particularly those with all one gender. I have one stick thin friend, barely eats, vegetarian, struggled to get pregnant who has two boys but she is a total control freak. Most of the girl mum's I know run so I think in general the cardio is important - although I agree maybe if exercising to excess may be eating HE to compensate and may sway blue. The girl mum's I know are in general calmer, more laid back, more 'take it as it comes', less likely to get involved in a 'heated debate'! I have two boys and definitely think I was unknowingly swaying blue - I have high metabolism/low blood sugar so need to eat all the time, I was slim but healthy slim and ate very big portions (I can eat a lot without putting on much weight which is why I've got so thin on LE diet even though I am not being super strict and trying to eat lots). I am competitive, fiercely protective of those around me and will always stand up if I think something isn't fair. I'm quite laid back in other ways though (messy, late, spontaneous). So perhaps personality is also a very large factor! All very fascinating! Girlswaylondon I too am eating some meat - I can't manage the sway without it and all my vegetarian friends have boys (some have a pigeon pair) so I figure the change from eating meat twice a day to roughly four times a week is good enough for me!

[Greydore]

My two cents- I'm an l&d nurse and see women of every shape and size have boys and girls. There is no clear pattern whatsoever (I find this very interesting as well so I do pay attention). One of our nurses is a super healthy eater and marathon runner, she has a boy and a girl. I used to work night shift, and a bunch of us were pregnant together. Every single one of us had a boy! It was crazy. I also look at women like Victoria Beckham who are super thin and have multiple boys, and that theory that beautiful women tend to have daughters? Megan Fox has 3 sons. I'm not trying to discount gender swaying, just saying that I think there is so much that goes into it that's it's hard to really ever 'know' for sure. I would love to do a huge study on my patients to look into this further, but there's no time for that when you're delivering babies [emoji4]


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[Hopefullmummy]

I think in cases where the lifestyle is a certain gender but they have opposites their personalities are extreme that it over takes the lifestyle. So she probably is very highly strung and obsessive with schedules maybe competitive etc. for instance my grandma had 5 daughters and had such boy eating habits and lifestyle. But her personality was extremely girl. And because she was so strong in the girl personality side she got the daughters. It seems the ones with really strong gender personality traits the eating and supplements etc don’t sway. That’s my observation.


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[XXforhubby]

I think in cases where the lifestyle is a certain gender but they have opposites their personalities are extreme that it over takes the lifestyle. So she probably is very highly strung and obsessive with schedules maybe competitive etc. for instance my grandma had 5 daughters and had such boy eating habits and lifestyle. But her personality was extremely girl. And because she was so strong in the girl personality side she got the daughters. It seems the ones with really strong gender personality traits the eating and supplements etc don’t sway. That’s my observation.


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You may be in to something here. I was always surprised we didn’t have more than one girl, and I had to go to what I feel are extremes to get the only one I have! My lifestyle after my DS1 was ambiguous- not leaning to one gender or the other, but my personality it 120% boy all the way!

I also think that the amount of BDing may have something to do with it too.


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[Girlswaylondon]

So glad I made this thread your replies are so fascinating and now I really really believe personality plays a huge factor!!!!

[Greydore]

You may be in to something here. I was always surprised we didn’t have more than one girl, and I had to go to what I feel are extremes to get the only one I have! My lifestyle after my DS1 was ambiguous- not leaning to one gender or the other, but my personality it 120% boy all the way!

I also think that the amount of BDing may have something to do with it too.


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The BDing is one of the big reasons I think we have boys. I have a very girl personality, but we have sex a lot. Haha.


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[Girlswaylondon]

Interesting I had a SUPER high sex drive whe I concieved my son but now it's non existent lol! Hope it helps...poor DH!

[Greydore]

Girlsway prozac totally killed my sex drive :/ it sucks but sanity is probably better.


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[Greydore]

Guys I'm dying over here. I got an evap line with a frer, which makes me hate those tests a little bit. I'm only (maybe) 9 dpo so I know it's maybe too early. I didn't get a BFP with second baby until 11 dpo, so I don't why I torture myself.


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[Girlswaylondon]

Guys I'm dying over here. I got an evap line with a frer, which makes me hate those tests a little bit. I'm only (maybe) 9 dpo so I know it's maybe too early. I didn't get a BFP with second baby until 11 dpo, so I don't why I torture myself.

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Oooo how exciting!! Fingers crossed for you x

[Greydore]

Oh my gosh! I posted this in the wrong spot. Sorry guys.


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[Hopefullmummy]

You may be in to something here. I was always surprised we didn’t have more than one girl, and I had to go to what I feel are extremes to get the only one I have! My lifestyle after my DS1 was ambiguous- not leaning to one gender or the other, but my personality it 120% boy all the way!

I also think that the amount of BDing may have something to do with it too.


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Think about it. Atomic says that sometimes the most perfect sway can be the opposite. I think with swaying for a girl, obsessing on every detail and making the sway perfect is such a boy Mum trait you’re almost shooting yourself in the foot with that. It’s like trying to imitate being a girl Mum like an equation/ robot and not like a proper person with those traits would be like.

I know I’m 100 percent a boy Mum without a sway. And it’s only because I did sway and also went through a phase in my life that made me feel overwhelmed and unsure that I’ve got a girl on the way. If I was back working in my highly competitive male industry job I don’t think I’d have a chance getting a girl. Being a mother already has made me chilled out which plays a part too.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Personality factors, the PCOS, whatever DH brings to the table and being a vegetarian for that long means it has less of a punch than people who change their diets.

[atomic sagebrush]

ive known a few super thin (almost unhealthy looking), health freak, cardio junkie women who barely have time to eat and are always running around on the go still have boys and they were all highly strung and total control freaks, i dunno if that plays a big part but that was the common thing among them when everything else seemed extra pink friendly.

Atomic does talk about the "special mojo" that ruins otherwise good pink sways, maybe they all had that!!

:agree: :agree: :agree:

When I was on Ingender I came to find out that one of the gals on there and I were actually neighbors. So we struck up a friendship, we both had 4 boys. She was rail thin and freaking insane LOL (to such extent that I unbefriended her and she ended up kind of stalking me for a while TBH) and while thankfully most of us are not quite that insane, that control freak thing is HUMUNGO. it really matters.

Now please, ladies, I mention this not so you can now turn ur lives upsidedown and inside out trying to uncontrolfreakify yourselves because that doesn't work, you only trade trying to control one thing for trying to control 5 others. I mention it to explain why it is (in addition to swaying not being 100% and also luck) people who seem like they "should" have girls, have boys, and also to hopefully prevent the "Swaymageddon 2017" mentalities that some people get into. While it feels counterintuitive, the best way to sway successfully is NOT to do every sway tactic under the sun to the nth degree.

[atomic sagebrush]

My two cents- I'm an l&d nurse and see women of every shape and size have boys and girls. There is no clear pattern whatsoever (I find this very interesting as well so I do pay attention). One of our nurses is a super healthy eater and marathon runner, she has a boy and a girl. I used to work night shift, and a bunch of us were pregnant together. Every single one of us had a boy! It was crazy. I also look at women like Victoria Beckham who are super thin and have multiple boys, and that theory that beautiful women tend to have daughters? Megan Fox has 3 sons. I'm not trying to discount gender swaying, just saying that I think there is so much that goes into it that's it's hard to really ever 'know' for sure. I would love to do a huge study on my patients to look into this further, but there's no time for that when you're delivering babies [emoji4]


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I have an essay on that here. https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3187-big-girls-little-girls-baby-girls-boys.html

[Girlswaylondon]

Just realised her DH is a personal trainer!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Interesting I had a SUPER high sex drive whe I concieved my son but now it's non existent lol! Hope it helps...poor DH!

I think this matters too

What we have to remember is that whatever gender we conceive it's the result of a lifetime of stuff and all the things we see or think we see is like the tip of a tiny iceberg sticking up from the water

[atomic sagebrush]

I think in cases where the lifestyle is a certain gender but they have opposites their personalities are extreme that it over takes the lifestyle. So she probably is very highly strung and obsessive with schedules maybe competitive etc. for instance my grandma had 5 daughters and had such boy eating habits and lifestyle. But her personality was extremely girl. And because she was so strong in the girl personality side she got the daughters. It seems the ones with really strong gender personality traits the eating and supplements etc don’t sway. That’s my observation.


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The other thing to keep in mind is the luck factor. I don't think swaying could ver be 100% or the whole human race would have died out a long time ago when no one had that much food, right? So there has to be either other factors or luck/randomness or most likely both.

So let's say person with 3 kiddos came into their first one 60% set for a girl, and then got "unlucky" or "lucky" depending on your perspective, and had a boy. Then their next conception they were more like 50-50 and had a boy. Third time through they were coming in 60% set for blue and had one. All these things are entirely possible and it would only be the smallest probably invisible differences in lifetime between the three conceptions

[4blue2pink]

:agree: :agree: :agree:

When I was on Ingender I came to find out that one of the gals on there and I were actually neighbors. So we struck up a friendship, we both had 4 boys. She was rail thin and freaking insane LOL (to such extent that I unbefriended her and she ended up kind of stalking me for a while TBH) and while thankfully most of us are not quite that insane, that control freak thing is HUMUNGO. it really matters.

Now please, ladies, I mention this not so you can now turn ur lives upsidedown and inside out trying to uncontrolfreakify yourselves because that doesn't work, you only trade trying to control one thing for trying to control 5 others. I mention it to explain why it is (in addition to swaying not being 100% and also luck) people who seem like they "should" have girls, have boys, and also to hopefully prevent the "Swaymageddon 2017" mentalities that some people get into. While it feels counterintuitive, the best way to sway successfully is NOT to do every sway tactic under the sun to the nth degree.

yes rail thin and insane!! thats exactly how id describe them, (hard work to be around if im honest) your so right about relaxed sways being better for pink, im convinced if you do what really works and cut out all the rest without obsessing you stand a much stronger chance. ive seen a few scary "Swaymageddon's" in the making and cant help but feel "this will end in a boy" when i read the posts :( i feel so mean admitting that, but in some cases it just seems like their personality or whatever you want to call it is going to override everything they do

[Flynn's Mummy]

Hey guys, just doing my first real delve into swaying and found this all really interesting. Yesterday I found out my HT cycle at HRC resulted in no transfer as my female embryo was abnormal.

I can't go through that again, it was exhausting and so stressful, and would like to move on on in a positive way. I have two gorgeous boys which I never saw coming as I'm one of girls, and although I love having boys I'm desperate for a girl.

I'm not a particularly intense person, and work in a 'girl' industry, I run a competitive cheerleading programme. Part of me wants to sway but I don't know if I have the energy!

Finding all the above about personality so interesting! I am definitely NOT a boy mum at all, yet that's what I've ended up with!

Is there such a thing as a very casual sway? From what you guys say above going all in and being obsessive doesn't work! Xx

[4blue2pink]

flynns mummy im sorry your HT cycle ended like that, i cant begin to imagine how much of a rollercoaster going HT must be.

ive done 2 very laid back pink sways!! the first one was successful and im currently pregnant after the second sway but staying team green :) first time round i did worry that id been too laid back and not put enough effort or thought into it but it worked so now i feel much more confident in the laid back approach and it does seem to bring good results :)

both times i did 12 weeks on LE diet with one attempt in fertile window

good luck with whatever you decide to do :)

[atomic sagebrush]

yes rail thin and insane!! thats exactly how id describe them, (hard work to be around if im honest) your so right about relaxed sways being better for pink, im convinced if you do what really works and cut out all the rest without obsessing you stand a much stronger chance. ive seen a few scary "Swaymageddon's" in the making and cant help but feel "this will end in a boy" when i read the posts :( i feel so mean admitting that, but in some cases it just seems like their personality or whatever you want to call it is going to override everything they do

I can all but pick them out at this point. They're convinced i'm personally trying to kill them and their unborn baby while also fighting me tooth and nail on things that they want to do that are totally harmful and completely insane. It's this weird combination of a belief they are an unquestioned expert on everything, I am a complete moronic fool who actively wants to harm them and ruin their health and their sway, but at the same time they will believe anything a weirdo on the side of the road will whisper into their ear about some rumor that worked for the friend of a friend of a friend and studies are God-given unquestioned fact even when 10 other studies have said the exact opposite.

Sticks out like a sore thumb even among the rest of the pink swayers who may be control freaky a little bit.

I try to warn them and sometimes it works but many times they're just unwarnable and as someone who's been where they are it may not even be possible to warn them. I'm not sure but it's a for real thing. And like 15% of the time I'm wrong and they do get a girl because if i could pick em 100% of the time, I would encourage them not to sway or at least suggest they think about it a little while longer first.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey guys, just doing my first real delve into swaying and found this all really interesting. Yesterday I found out my HT cycle at HRC resulted in no transfer as my female embryo was abnormal.

I can't go through that again, it was exhausting and so stressful, and would like to move on on in a positive way. I have two gorgeous boys which I never saw coming as I'm one of girls, and although I love having boys I'm desperate for a girl.

I'm not a particularly intense person, and work in a 'girl' industry, I run a competitive cheerleading programme. Part of me wants to sway but I don't know if I have the energy!

Finding all the above about personality so interesting! I am definitely NOT a boy mum at all, yet that's what I've ended up with!

Is there such a thing as a very casual sway? From what you guys say above going all in and being obsessive doesn't work! Xx

Yes, just diet, exercise, one attempt, a couple little things on DH's end if he'll do them, and Clomid or Femara if you can get them. These are the keys.

[4blue2pink]

i dont envy you having to try and work with them/reason with them Atomic, why bother coming on here and asking for help if your not willing to take advice or change a thing? makes no sense to me.. :-/

[atomic sagebrush]

i dont envy you having to try and work with them/reason with them Atomic, why bother coming on here and asking for help if your not willing to take advice or change a thing? makes no sense to me.. :-/

To be honest it does sometimes upset me when I feel like people are implying I am actually trying to harm them or ruin their sways, but I know it's not something that is easy to control - I certainly have all the same tendencies myself so I have sympathy.

[4blue2pink]

yes your right they arent intentionally being that way (i hope!!) but given that you do this day in day out you shouldnt have to deal with being made to feel upset, without this site and all the help and support you offer i am certain i wouldnt of had my youngest girl :heart: i just wish i had found swaying earlier!!

[Emmajane]

I have a group of friends & out of 17 kids there are only 2 girls. I'm beginning to wonder if environmental factors make a difference? We are all in the Blue Mountains Australia. I have 2 boys and desperately want a girl

[Hopefullmummy]

I have a group of friends & out of 17 kids there are only 2 girls. I'm beginning to wonder if environmental factors make a difference? We are all in the Blue Mountains Australia. I have 2 boys and desperately want a girl

Our group of friends is the same. Pretty much all boys. I think similar personalities could be the reason. We re all opinionated and strong women. I don’t think it’s a coincidence we are all friends. And same with our partners. They all get along because they have the same dynamic.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I have a group of friends & out of 17 kids there are only 2 girls. I'm beginning to wonder if environmental factors make a difference? We are all in the Blue Mountains Australia. I have 2 boys and desperately want a girl

I think it's like attracting like and lifestyle factors in common between you. Plus, there are often runs of one gender and then runs of the other - in my extended family (and keep in mind many of these people are not genetically related and don't even live in the same area) we had tons of boys in a row and then tons of girls in a row. It's just one of those weird things that happen sometimes. :)

[Greydore]

When I was growing up it seemed like everyone was having girls. All of my cousins were girls, our neighborhood was mostly little girls with maybe a couple of boys. Now our family is having mostly boys and all but one of my friends has boys. It's interesting how these things happen.


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[frankie2017]

I have a group of friends & out of 17 kids there are only 2 girls. I'm beginning to wonder if environmental factors make a difference? We are all in the Blue Mountains Australia. I have 2 boys and desperately want a girl

Emmajane i was starting to think Sydney’s inner west has ‘boy stuff’ in the water!! So many friends have boys and I have 2. At our daycare there were all these family pics on the wall and EVERY single one was a family like ours of 2 boys. I think there was one girl in his group. But now two friends have had girls (ouch :() - but I often wonder the same re environment ! Def some weird energies going on in the mountains that’s for sure....


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