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Cc5025
October 24th, 2017, 09:51 AM
Hi all, I’ve omly ever used the cheapie strips to test for O but decided to try testing with clear blue as it’s meant to be easier.
I have the pink lid one that shows a solid smile face at O howver on reading the box I see that detects the surge that can be 48hrs before O... so for us blue swayers who want to BD on the evening OF O do we wait 2 days after seeing that smiley ? How do we know we never just missed it from the presvious test?
Also it’s advised to test with the cheapies in afternoon not morning pee, but Cleaeblue instructions recommend first morning pee is a good time as you’ll definitely not have had a drink as recommended no fluids for 4 hours before testing ... so is this hood advice or should we ignore that ?
Any advice from previous experience of using these is much appreciated , thank you x
DreamingRainbow
October 24th, 2017, 10:14 AM
Hi all, I’ve omly ever used the cheapie strips to test for O but decided to try testing with clear blue as it’s meant to be easier.
I have the pink lid one that shows a solid smile face at O howver on reading the box I see that detects the surge that can be 48hrs before O... so for us blue swayers who want to BD on the evening OF O do we wait 2 days after seeing that smiley ? How do we know we never just missed it from the presvious test?
Also it’s advised to test with the cheapies in afternoon not morning pee, but Cleaeblue instructions recommend first morning pee is a good time as you’ll definitely not have had a drink as recommended no fluids for 4 hours before testing ... so is this hood advice or should we ignore that ?
Any advice from previous experience of using these is much appreciated , thank you xFollowing this as I'm confused too! I'm thinking of using 1 clearblue and 1 cheapie each day (but no idea re timings)
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XXforhubby
October 24th, 2017, 10:20 AM
I don’t want to advise on when to BD for blue- Atomic will let you know. My own two cents on the matter is to start your attempts when you get your smiley, because having earlier and more attempts are better for blue. I recall you’re to do 3 attempts at positive opk and then wait a day and have one more attempt or 2.
For the pink cap CBD (clear blue digital) opks, you can use any urine from any time of day, just hold your pee for at least 3 hours. I always used mine between 11-1pm each day, and I always detected my surge. It’s the purple advanced CBDs that is important to only use the first morning urine (FMU).
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Cc5025
October 24th, 2017, 10:58 AM
Thank you, I thought it was 3 attempts at O, when I previously used Shettles method to conceive my son it was 1 bd at o but I remember I based that on getting the dip and a positive opk ... maybe I did do prior to O, I’m all confused lol.
So is it ok to test with the pink clear blue with fmu? As that suits me best due to work but I didn’t want it effecting my results x
QUOTE=XXforhubby;949329]I don’t want to advise on when to BD for blue- Atomic will let you know. My own two cents on the matter is to start your attempts when you get your smiley, because having earlier and more attempts are better for blue. I recall you’re to do 3 attempts at positive opk and then wait a day and have one more attempt or 2.
For the pink cap CBD (clear blue digital) opks, you can use any urine from any time of day, just hold your pee for at least 3 hours. I always used mine between 11-1pm each day, and I always detected my surge. It’s the purple advanced CBDs that is important to only use the first morning urine (FMU).
and all of my blue baby dust- I have gobs and gobs, haha!
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Cc5025
October 24th, 2017, 10:59 AM
I hope this post clears it up for us both since we are getting closser to our attempts
Following this as I'm confused too! I'm thinking of using 1 clearblue and 1 cheapie each day (but no idea re timings)
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DreamingRainbow
October 24th, 2017, 11:31 AM
I hope this post clears it up for us both since we are getting closser to our attempts That's good to know! I have 2 dds and as far as I remember we dtd every few days and then every day around positive O - this was definitely done with dd2.
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Cc5025
October 24th, 2017, 12:04 PM
Every day around O i think sways more towards pink due to poorer sperm count. I was reading a post today about it from atomic saying she does not recommend everyday around O for any sway as it lowers chances of conception x
That's good to know! I have 2 dds and as far as I remember we dtd every few days and then every day around positive O - this was definitely done with dd2.
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DreamingRainbow
October 24th, 2017, 12:05 PM
Every day around O i think sways more towards pink due to poorer sperm count. I was reading a post today about it from atomic saying she does not recommend everyday around O for any sway as it lowers chances of conception xAh!! I didn't know that. No wonder I have two girls so [emoji4]
Thanks cc5025
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Ladynic
October 24th, 2017, 01:52 PM
Cc5025 if it helps, Shettles has been pretty much debunked. Also, it's impossible to know exactly what day you are ovulating based on OPK (can be determined within reasonable certainty AFTER if temping but not before). Even if you have a specific pattern you usually follow, every cycle is different (as I'm learning myself). Even if you could pinpoint the exact day of O, my understanding is that your chances of actually conceiving from bd the day of O are pretty slim. The sperm need time to capacitate and the egg only lives for a short amount of time after it's released if not fertilized.
atomic sagebrush
October 26th, 2017, 04:01 PM
You do NOT want to BD on the evening of O. You will cut the odds of conception to NOTHING doing it that way and plus it will most likely be one attempt because the egg will be dead and gone by the time you have more than that first attempt.
Shettles DOES NOT WORK but even if you want Shettles, doing it our way is still considered in the Shettles window. O-1 is supposed to be boy friendly. So you BD the night of your first positive OPK (which should be 24-36 hours before O) again the next morning if you can (O Day) and then again the following night (O Day) This is three attempts and all in Shettles' window if that is important to you.
The surge is really a lot less likely to be 48 hours before O and much, much more likely to be 24-36 hours before.
Play around with it and see if you get better results in the morning or after lunch. Whichever works for you.
atomic sagebrush
October 26th, 2017, 04:04 PM
Cc5025 if it helps, Shettles has been pretty much debunked. Also, it's impossible to know exactly what day you are ovulating based on OPK (can be determined within reasonable certainty AFTER if temping but not before). Even if you have a specific pattern you usually follow, every cycle is different (as I'm learning myself). Even if you could pinpoint the exact day of O, my understanding is that your chances of actually conceiving from bd the day of O are pretty slim. The sperm need time to capacitate and the egg only lives for a short amount of time after it's released if not fertilized.
People were going on for months and even years on Ingender trying for one attempt on O. It is not a good way to get pregnant and has caused tons of heartache for people. Shettles was wrong and we know 100% that he was wrong.
https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html
atomic sagebrush
October 26th, 2017, 04:05 PM
Every day around O i think sways more towards pink due to poorer sperm count. I was reading a post today about it from atomic saying she does not recommend everyday around O for any sway as it lowers chances of conception x
Ah!! I didn't know that. No wonder I have two girls so [emoji4]
Thanks cc5025
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A few posts down this page I have a long explanation of why not to BD daily thru O for boys https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html
BD every few days in the early part of the cycle is good for boys IMO because the exposure to hormones in semen may help make you more boy friendly. But you don't ahve to do it that way if you don't want to.
Cc5025
October 27th, 2017, 04:22 AM
Thank you atomic explained perfectly
MiaMelb
October 27th, 2017, 04:41 AM
I know Atomic had already cleared this up but I just want to second what most blue swayers aim for with their BD pattern. BD every 2-3 days unprotected from end AF through to +opk. Once you get +opk aim for 3 attempts; evening of +opk, am of next day then pm of that day. From then continue every 2-3 days in case of delayed O. For those who believe Shettles then they usually keep the BDs from AF to +opk protected. Personally I think there is something to the idea of exposure to DH sperm before your attempts so that's what we are going to go with.
Cc5025
October 27th, 2017, 04:54 AM
The more I read the more I’m dealing to BD every other day rather than waiting for positive opk ... Can I ask ... what do you do leading to AF in BD EOD scenario, would you BD unprotected to give more exposure To the sperm making it not friendly or would you need to be protected?
I know Atomic had already cleared this up but I just want to second what most blue swayers aim for with their BD pattern. BD every 2-3 days unprotected from end AF through to +opk. Once you get +opk aim for 3 attempts; evening of +opk, am of next day then pm of that day. From then continue every 2-3 days in case of delayed O. For those who believe Shettles then they usually keep the BDs from AF to +opk protected. Personally I think there is something to the idea of exposure to DH sperm before your attempts so that's what we are going to go with.
MiaMelb
October 27th, 2017, 05:02 AM
I believe that exposure to DH sperm makes you more blue friendly so I would BD unprotected throughout the cycle.
Unfortunately my DPs work can be quite stressful and with having kids have found our BD pattern can be a bit irratic (sometimes 4-5 days in a row and then nothing for 1.5 weeks). This is the part I find hard about swaying blue as DP has always hated having to 'perform' when we are ttc so getting the 3 attempts at +opk without stressing him out too much will be tricky.
Cc5025
October 27th, 2017, 05:08 AM
So are you not going to Bd eod ? Ohhh I don’t know what to do EOD or 3 attempts around O.. decisions decisions! When will you ttc miamelb?
I believe that exposure to DH sperm makes you more blue friendly so I would BD unprotected throughout the cycle.
Unfortunately my DPs work can be quite stressful and with having kids have found our BD pattern can be a bit irratic (sometimes 4-5 days in a row and then nothing for 1.5 weeks). This is the part I find hard about swaying blue as DP has always hated having to 'perform' when we are ttc so getting the 3 attempts at +opk without stressing him out too much will be tricky.
atomic sagebrush
October 27th, 2017, 02:24 PM
CC I answered this point in another post just a minute ago explaining why EOD is not all it's cracked up to be wtihout at least one more additional BD in there somewhere!
DreamingRainbow
October 27th, 2017, 06:44 PM
Sorry but what does EOD mean?
Now im confused again. I bd with dh every other day then every day at +opk and I have 2 girls. The above description for blue sway seems to be v similar to what I did and have 2 girls (I only heard of swaying in recent weeks)
I was planning on bd protected until +opk then the 3 attempts for a blue sway?
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MiaMelb
October 27th, 2017, 09:46 PM
So are you not going to Bd eod ? Ohhh I don’t know what to do EOD or 3 attempts around O.. decisions decisions! When will you ttc miamelb?
I am going to try and BD every 2-3 days from AF to +opk then have the 3 attempts at +opk but I know getting everything right timing wise is a little different from what seems to happen when we aren't swaying so may be tricky to keep DH from getting too stressed.
Haven't got DH 100% on board with #3 (and he's definitely not sold on my ideal time frame which is to ttc in April 2018) so not sure when, stuck in a but of a holding pattern right now. Stealth swaying.
Cc5025
October 28th, 2017, 04:20 AM
So from what i read / have been asvised.. There are 2 ways that atomic recommends for blue sway
Eod is every other day.. so my understanding is you bd eod from af as the sperm release leading up to that makes it a blue friendly environment, then u get some extra attempts in around the +opk (not every day around O)
Or
The plan you already have of dh releasing every 2-4 days but protected to keep a healthy sperm count then 3 attempts at +Opk.
I spoke to hubby about all this and we have made an agreement to go with 3 attempts - evening of +opk, then the next morning and night.. so we won’t be releasing EOD x
Sorry but what does EOD mean?
Now im confused again. I bd with dh every other day then every day at +opk and I have 2 girls. The above description for blue sway seems to be v similar to what I did and have 2 girls (I only heard of swaying in recent weeks)
I was planning on bd protected until +opk then the 3 attempts for a blue sway?
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Cc5025
October 28th, 2017, 04:23 AM
Plenty time to get hubby on board with you, hope he comes round to the idea soon. Good thing is you have tons of time to prepare for a perfect sway
QUOTE=MiaMelb;950424]I am going to try and BD every 2-3 days from AF to +opk then have the 3 attempts at +opk but I know getting everything right timing wise is a little different from what seems to happen when we aren't swaying so may be tricky to keep DH from getting too stressed.
Haven't got DH 100% on board with #3 (and he's definitely not sold on my ideal time frame which is to ttc in April 2018) so not sure when, stuck in a but of a holding pattern right now. Stealth swaying.[/QUOTE]
DreamingRainbow
October 28th, 2017, 05:00 PM
So from what i read / have been asvised.. There are 2 ways that atomic recommends for blue sway
Eod is every other day.. so my understanding is you bd eod from af as the sperm release leading up to that makes it a blue friendly environment, then u get some extra attempts in around the +opk (not every day around O)
Or
The plan you already have of dh releasing every 2-4 days but protected to keep a healthy sperm count then 3 attempts at +Opk.
I spoke to hubby about all this and we have made an agreement to go with 3 attempts - evening of +opk, then the next morning and night.. so we won’t be releasing EOD xThanks Cc5025! I think we will do protected eod (2-4 days) and then the 3 times at +opk. Dh is happy to go with the flow which is great!
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Cc5025
October 28th, 2017, 05:56 PM
I put a post about EOD a couple of days ago if you have a read at atomics reply on it as she explains it very well there
QUOTE=DreamingRainbow;950584]Thanks Cc5025! I think we will do protected eod (2-4 days) and then the 3 times at +opk. Dh is happy to go with the flow which is great!
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atomic sagebrush
October 31st, 2017, 05:15 PM
Sorry but what does EOD mean?
Now im confused again. I bd with dh every other day then every day at +opk and I have 2 girls. The above description for blue sway seems to be v similar to what I did and have 2 girls (I only heard of swaying in recent weeks)
I was planning on bd protected until +opk then the 3 attempts for a blue sway?
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You can do it either way but do keep in mind that some of these things may sway blue, but you got girls not because of those things, but in spite of them.
There are MANY MANY MANY things that come in to a sway and we get so focused on this thing or that thing but it's really tons of things working in concert. So you can't assume "this thing swayed pink for me" when it may have been neutral or even swayed blue! :)
atomic sagebrush
October 31st, 2017, 05:15 PM
Thanks Cc5025! I think we will do protected eod (2-4 days) and then the 3 times at +opk. Dh is happy to go with the flow which is great!
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EOD is NOT every 2-4 days, just want to be clear that's two different things.
I think you've got it worked out tho!
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