Should I drop swaying with HT?

[Throwaway_panther]

I've read a lot and seen that keto, losing weight beforehand, less red meat, more olive/avocado oil, etc. all bode well for IVF.


Which is all very anti-HE. If I do these things to improve my success with IVF, am I likey to have more girl embryos as a result?

[ksmom]

Swaying and HT are two separate things. Swaying pink is meant to lower fertility which is the opposite of what you're supposed to do when going HT. A lot of things done for HT are not all that pink friendly (eating lots of healthy fats, eating more protein, less carbs, eliminating sugar, taking vitamins, etc). Atomic has a diet post for those formerly swaying and now doing HT: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

Just scroll down until you reach the Atomic Fertility Diet and there's sections there for blue swayers. :)

[ksmom]

Also I don't know if you saw NBP's post about diet for IVF: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/preparing-for-ivf-supplement-and-food-info/60103-preparing-ivf-supplements-what-eat.html

I think too if you're snacking, not doing any sort of fasting then you should be more blue friendly. Like I said though doing IVF and swaying are separate from one another so even IF doing the HT diet made your body more pink friendly for natural conception, it shouldn't necessarily make you produce more female embryos with IVF (does that make sense?). Lots of ladies doing HT for a girl are eating more blue friendly diets in an attempt to improve fertility yet many still get plenty of female embryos. I think the gender split with IVF is just luck of the draw really.

[nicoler]

It's going to be tough, but if you go HT you have to start training your mind to not go to swaying logic because it doesn't translate to the HT world. The embryologist essentially picks the gender by selecting a nice looking sperm and injecting it into the egg. Nothing you do will make your eggs more "girl friendly" or "boy friendly". Gender splits with HT are truly luck of the draw and it's out of your hands. You need to eat as healthy as possible to maximize your egg quality and overall health regardless of the gender you are seeking.

[nicoler]

Losing weight, less red meat, healthy fats etc. do bode well for ivf but you don't need to go crazy with it. A healthy BMI is a big one though - there's no shortage of studies that indicate success can be compromised if you fall into the overweight category.

[Georgia_Peach]

Great question TP. I wondered myself. If this isn't my bfp we are doing ivf with pds in Dec.
I've started to eat healthy and researched the ivf diet online. It's so different from LE.

[nicoler]

The only thing that *might* influence gender is having DH take liquid olive leaf extract and a vitamin C supplement for about 3 months prior to cycling if you are seeking a girl. Unfortunately there is no equivalent supplement for those going for a boy.

[Throwaway_panther]

It's going to be tough, but if you go HT you have to start training your mind to not go to swaying logic because it doesn't translate to the HT world. The embryologist essentially picks the gender by selecting a nice looking sperm and injecting it into the egg. Nothing you do will make your eggs more "girl friendly" or "boy friendly". Gender splits with HT are truly luck of the draw and it's out of your hands. You need to eat as healthy as possible to maximize your egg quality and overall health regardless of the gender you are seeking.

Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to hear. Throwing myself into IVF prep will be no problem -- it's just almost anxiety inducing after HE for two years to make some of these changes!

[nicoler]

it's just almost anxiety inducing after HE for two years to make some of these changes!

I completely understand!! When you have been into swaying for a long time, it's hard to get it off your mind when you are planning meals etc.

[Pinkmama]

I went from HT (mc my girl) to swaying (another mc) to now HT again. I think preparing for HT is more difficult than swaying. You have to be on a very nicely balanced diet, do regular exercise and take lots of supplements. I wish you the best!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Great question TP. I wondered myself. If this isn't my bfp we are doing ivf with pds in Dec.
I've started to eat healthy and researched the ivf diet online. It's so different from LE.

LE is NOT compatible with IVF. HE is as long as you don't eat so much you gain weight and keep doing exercise.

I think keto diets are frankly --- for IVF. People on low carb diets find all kinds of problems with their cycles and people do better on more of a Zone or South Beach Type diet that has healthy fats and some healthy carbs. I really despise you guys doing the keto diets for IVF there is plenty of evidence that they may not be good for IVF and I worry, panther, that it might end up going too far for you and bringing back some of the feelings with the eating disorder.

[Pinkmama]

I agree with atomic, keto diets are NOT for HT. Good balanced old fashion diet is. Good carbs, good proteins, good fats, 2000 cal a day and exercise.


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[daydrmbelievr]

So far, I'm having a stunning response to IVF (30 eggs, 10 PGD at day 6, all BBs, minus one BC). These are the words of my doctor and embyologist. I'm 37, so they thought I wouldn't respond as well [emoji23]
I made sure that I had a balanced diet with tons of greens, lean protein, and organic choices. I took CoQ10, fertility prenatals, and my Juice Plus. I work out (HIIT, lifting) 4-5x a week and made sure my BMI was 20-21% :)
I drank TONS of water, no soda, artificial sweeteners. I also avoid dairy and other really inflammatory foods as habit.

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[Throwaway_panther]

That's so great daydrm!

I AM on the higher end of the BMI scale now. I was 19 something before DD, but between her, 6 losses and HE, I'm tipping over 24.5, so I can afford to get lower. I'm aware enough to know my body fat % is definitely healthy based on measurements and lean body mass, especially since I'm fitting into clothes I wore at a lower weight... lifting all these years but finaly fueling it with HE made a difference. But most doctors don't distinguish between body fat and BMI, so it definitely wouldn't hurt for me to get lower. I'm not the "sized out of XSmalls" I was two years ago!