December 2017 TTC & 2ww thread

[Pbn3]

Hope you ladies are all blessed with greatest gift of all this Christmas! Bring on the December bfps!!

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[JP15]

Hi Hun,

Are you in your 2ww?

Not due my AF until 13th Dec, going to be a long wait!! Not sure when or IF i have ovulated yet as only had faint lines on the OPKs since 25th Nov.

Lets hope for the best Christmas pressie ever! :ttcgirl:

[Pbn3]

Hi JP15!

I'm actually almost 33 weeks pregnant but hang about to offer advice when I can and support for anyone ttc or in the 2ww :)

Looking forward to this month and many bfps - hopefully all of you! Wouldn't that be something!!

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[Pbn3]

What opks are you using and what time aee you testing?

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[Georgia_Peach]

Jumping onto here too.
I'll be testing Dec 4th week on... Af is due Dec 10th.
Hoping for a bfp before ivf with gender selection in Jan. Re will prob put me onto BC for Dec before my cycle so I won't get another shot on our own.
This is it for my swaying journey. Feels so odd saying that since I've been on it for over 2 years now [emoji22]

[Filzma]

Hi everyone! Super excited to begin swaying. Excuse the long post. I’m planning to ttc late jan/early feb and thought I’d begin the process.
Supplements:

Daily.
-Fish oil 210mg
-Ginseng 500mg
-Multivitamins (Zn 10mcg, vit D 400 IU, folic acid 200mcg, selenium 32mcg etc)
Plan to stock up on.
-Vit D tabs for DH and myself. Finished one that was combined with calcium.
-EPO (never used)
-Folic acid? I think I’ll get the folate ones.
Tracking.
- BBT (thermometer just arrived)
- opk (got 10 cheap tests with thermometer planning on ordering more cheap ones and clear blue for actual ttc month (purple?blue?pink? Help)
*going to be my first month tracking [emoji33][emoji16]
Diet:
Morning.
-Celery green juice OR lemon-ginger-turmeric-honey tea)
- Porridge with dates cinnamon OR Muesli (fruit n nut) OR avocado baked beans toast. 1/2-3/4 cup full fat milk with each option
Snack
-Cucumber mint juice OR lemon lime juice
- Nuts (some salted)
Lunch
- blue berry-wheat grass-spirulina-banana-orange-coriander-maca powder smoothie.
- a fruity eg half a melon or papaya or apple etc
Early supper
- high protein (meat/fish/quinoa/lentils)
-high veges
-Sweet potato/potato/sometimes rice or pasta but rarely these days.
Snack
- something sweet (carbs)
- ginger-thyme-lemon-fennel seed tea
Misc:
-Use sea salt to cook and try to generously season food with it to get a good amount of sodium.
-Even though winter- expose myself to sunshine every moment I can.
-Sleeping well lately. Used to be insomniac when I was ttc DD.
Exercise:
-None yet. Not really active but want to begin light lifting weights today especially with recent muscle wasting I noticed.
I’m fully committed and invested in this. If I end up ttc a girl then no harm done! If anything mummy will be healthier albeit heavier. [emoji6]
Anything I missed? Tips? Corrections?
Oh and planning to temp vaginally, what should I clean thermometer with? Any rules?

[Girlswaylondon]

I’m not out yet! But due my period 1st December! My cycles always work out that way because I have 31 day cycles lol!

[Eighme]

Hi ladies! I’m hoping TTC this month. I was wondering what brand of ovulation strips you use?


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[Noemi2017]

Girlsway i wait af also 1st december and next ovulation between 19-21 december. I thought u r already 11dpo. My temperature doesnt grow up so im sure im not pregnant also no symptons. It would be the gift find bfp in december:)

[Noemi2017]

Pbn did u go team green? :)

[Girlswaylondon]

Girlsway i wait af also 1st december and next ovulation between 19-21 december. I thought u r already 11dpo. My temperature doesnt grow up so im sure im not pregnant also no symptons. It would be the gift find bfp in december:)

I ovulated day 18 this month! 10dpo today!

[JP15]

What opks are you using and what time aee you testing?

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Oh wow, did you sway and did it work for you?

I am using some i purchased from Amazon, not sure of the brand. I tested around 10.30am for the first two days and the added another later in the evening the last two days.

To be honest it is the most i have had since TTC, I've always had nothing at all until this month so hopefully moving in the right direction. :fx:

[Noemi2017]

I ovulated 19 this month:)

[Filzma]

Oh wow, did you sway and did it work for you?

I am using some i purchased from Amazon, not sure of the brand. I tested around 10.30am for the first two days and the added another later in the evening the last two days.

To be honest it is the most i have had since TTC, I've always had nothing at all until this month so hopefully moving in the right direction. :fx:

Are those sufficient on their own or would a clear blue back up help? Seen a couple people use them in tandem. I’m not sure when my O is and planning to find out this dec.

[Mommy2apples]

I’d recommend the dual clear blue digital. As they picked up my peak, but I never got a true positive on the wondfos. Again everyone is different how their bodies react.


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[Filzma]

Congrats on your pregnancy mommy2apples! Thanks I’ll just order those online right away


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[Mommy2apples]

Thanks Filzma! You are welcome!


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[MsMarie89]

Hi ladies! [emoji112]

I am excited to be here! I have been pre swaying blue for about a year(more nutritious eating, supps), but just started upping my calories a couple weeks ago!

I won’t be ovulating in December until the 27/28 so I have a while to wait, just longer on he diet :).


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[MsMarie89]

Hi everyone! Super excited to begin swaying. Excuse the long post. I’m planning to ttc late jan/early feb and thought I’d begin the process.
Supplements:

Daily.
-Fish oil 210mg
-Ginseng 500mg
-Multivitamins (Zn 10mcg, vit D 400 IU, folic acid 200mcg, selenium 32mcg etc)
Plan to stock up on.
-Vit D tabs for DH and myself. Finished one that was combined with calcium.
-EPO (never used)
-Folic acid? I think I’ll get the folate ones.
Tracking.
- BBT (thermometer just arrived)
- opk (got 10 cheap tests with thermometer planning on ordering more cheap ones and clear blue for actual ttc month (purple?blue?pink? Help)
*going to be my first month tracking [emoji33][emoji16]
Diet:
Morning.
-Celery green juice OR lemon-ginger-turmeric-honey tea)
- Porridge with dates cinnamon OR Muesli (fruit n nut) OR avocado baked beans toast. 1/2-3/4 cup full fat milk with each option
Snack
-Cucumber mint juice OR lemon lime juice
- Nuts (some salted)
Lunch
- blue berry-wheat grass-spirulina-banana-orange-coriander-maca powder smoothie.
- a fruity eg half a melon or papaya or apple etc
Early supper
- high protein (meat/fish/quinoa/lentils)
-high veges
-Sweet potato/potato/sometimes rice or pasta but rarely these days.
Snack
- something sweet (carbs)
- ginger-thyme-lemon-fennel seed tea
Misc:
-Use sea salt to cook and try to generously season food with it to get a good amount of sodium.
-Even though winter- expose myself to sunshine every moment I can.
-Sleeping well lately. Used to be insomniac when I was ttc DD.
Exercise:
-None yet. Not really active but want to begin light lifting weights today especially with recent muscle wasting I noticed.
I’m fully committed and invested in this. If I end up ttc a girl then no harm done! If anything mummy will be healthier albeit heavier. [emoji6]
Anything I missed? Tips? Corrections?
Oh and planning to temp vaginally, what should I clean thermometer with? Any rules?

Our diets sound similar :)!

My step dad owns a chartering(fishing) business so I am blessed with fresh salmon, I eat it for one dinner and one lunch a week 🤤.

Everything I’ve been doing for ttc blue is polar opposite of when I conceived my two little ladies!! I am so excited to really start trying!


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[Filzma]

Our diets sound similar :)!

My step dad owns a chartering(fishing) business so I am blessed with fresh salmon, I eat it for one dinner and one lunch a week 🤤.

Everything I’ve been doing for ttc blue is polar opposite of when I conceived my two little ladies!! I am so excited to really start trying!


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Oh wow lucky girl, I absolutely love salmon too 🤤 I’m excited for you too!! I’m trying to get the 6-8weeks of proper HE then probably begin ttc sometime in Jan. I can’t wait. Let’s do this!!!

[MsMarie89]

Oh wow lucky girl, I absolutely love salmon too 🤤 I’m excited for you too!! I’m trying to get the 6-8weeks of proper HE then probably begin ttc sometime in Jan. I can’t wait. Let’s do this!!!

Yes! Let’s do it!

We may end up waiting for January also, we haven’t 100% decided! My husbands job is moving us by January 1st and we just can’t decide if we want to try right before we move or a couple weeks after we move. I’d like to not continue to gain weight though, [emoji85].


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[Pbn3]

Robin will you be testing the trigger out or just waiting it out?

I'm so sad to see this is your last cycle before the IVF process begins and hope so much you get your bfp so you don't need to go any further down that road. In saying that, if it turns out you need to I hope with everything I have your IVF journey is short and ends in the sweetest way possible [emoji173]

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[Filzma]

If I were you I’d try before because when ttc my DD, I remember was stressed out, tired and anxious. Not things you want. Try not to think of the move- might subconsciously stress you.


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[Pbn3]

Filzma that all sounds great! I'm not up to date with latest and greatest info blue or pink sway wise but sounds like you're on the right track. Copy that post and paste it into a new thread (create one) under the ttc a boy forum for confirmation from Atomic though if that suits? In relation to digi opks, I definitely prefer the dual hormone ones that use fmu!!! So much easier and less stress than trying to limit fluids and doing holds etc plus I like the fact it tracks two hormones :) But some get frustrated with flashing smileys before the solid so kinda depends on your temperament I guess? With cleaning the thermometer for vaginal temping I just used alcohol wipes/swabs that I bought from my local pharmacy/chemist.

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[Pbn3]

Oh and can I suggest raised hips after bding for at least half hour? Pop a pillow under your butt to prop them up [emoji6]

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[MsMarie89]

If I were you I’d try before because when ttc my DD, I remember was stressed out, tired and anxious. Not things you want. Try not to think of the move- might subconsciously stress you.


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Yeah that’s a good point. I’ll have to start packing my house up soon but I’m hoping the organization/packing and planning of everything helps sway blue for me if we do go ahead with December ttc!


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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome eighme [emoji3] what country are you in so we can chime in what is popular opk wise for where you are?

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[Pbn3]

JP15 I gave up swaying long before this sticky bean but love this site and its people so much I stuck around [emoji3]

Did you get instructions with your opks? Most dip tests aren't good for testing with prior to 11am, the best time (generally speaking) is between 1-2pm and later in the evening if you want to test twice.

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[Pbn3]

Sorry for the multiple posts, Tapatalk did the dumbest update which no longer enables me to see previous posts as I write my own so I have to address them one at a time [emoji30] I'll be gone for awhile but will check in later today [emoji3]

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[Georgia_Peach]

Robin will you be testing the trigger out or just waiting it out?

I'm so sad to see this is your last cycle before the IVF process begins and hope so much you get your bfp so you don't need to go any further down that road. In saying that, if it turns out you need to I hope with everything I have your IVF journey is short and ends in the sweetest way possible [emoji173]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkThank you!
I am just so shocked on how this whole LE crap has left me basically infertile. Crazy to think what it's done to my eggs. Wish I wasn't here and just could have kept my baby girl.
I will prob start to rest out at 5dpo. It's usually gone by 7dpo.

[Girlswaylondon]

Robin I am so sad to hear what a tough time you have had :( truly sending all the luck I possibly can your way for this month!!

[Eighme]

Hi and welcome eighme [emoji3] what country are you in so we can chime in what is popular opk wise for where you are?

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Hi! I’m actually in the US!


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[Pbn3]

Ladies in the US what do you think are the best dip opk tests to use? Eighme I really liked the ovuplan brand but I'm not sure if they're sold in the US? You may be able to get online though? I'm in Australia...

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[Filzma]

Robin take heart dear, everything will workout in good time. So sorry things are tough [emoji177]

Pbn3 you’re an absolute darling. You read through everything and thanks for answers. Will copy paste right away to the other section. Would love atomics input as well.


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[XXforhubby]

Ladies in the US what do you think are the best dip opk tests to use? Eighme I really liked the ovuplan brand but I'm not sure if they're sold in the US? You may be able to get online though? I'm in Australia...

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Wondfo or Babi’s for ICs or the pink CBD.


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[JP15]

JP15 I gave up swaying long before this sticky bean but love this site and its people so much I stuck around [emoji3]

Did you get instructions with your opks? Most dip tests aren't good for testing with prior to 11am, the best time (generally speaking) is between 1-2pm and later in the evening if you want to test twice.

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Hi Hun,

I read that it was good to test between 10am-8pm, but i have tried most different times to be honest. I had a very faint line yesterday so am going to test again today, will try between 1-2pm.
We did BD over the weekend and Monday so hopefully timed it right (don't think that is any good for the sway though).

[Pbn3]

Jp15 if its easier than trying for one attempt at pos opk you could always switch to e4d to get your one attempt in fertile window. No need to worry about opks that way, just stick to (example) cd8, cd12, cd16 etc all cycle long or until bfp [emoji3] so three full days between bds. Otherwise just keep on testing as your surge should surely start coming in any day now. Stick to 1-2pm and again between 7-8pm if you feel like it, are you restricting fluids for a few hours beforehand and holding for at least 2?

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[JP15]

Jp15 if its easier than trying for one attempt at pos opk you could always switch to e4d to get your one attempt in fertile window. No need to worry about opks that way, just stick to (example) cd8, cd12, cd16 etc all cycle long or until bfp [emoji3] so three full days between bds. Otherwise just keep on testing as your surge should surely start coming in any day now. Stick to 1-2pm and again between 7-8pm if you feel like it, are you restricting fluids for a few hours beforehand and holding for at least 2?

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Pbn3
I have just tested for this afternoon with a very faint line (they are getting lighter) and will again later.
I havent been restricting drinks, but have held on, maybe not 2 hours every time.
Thanks for your help

[Eighme]

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Thank you! They seem so intimidating as I’ve never so much as tracked anything other than my period (which up until starting my sway was ALWAYS consistent and has since charged) .


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[mwilson]

so crap. we dtd last night (cd 10) thinking I wouldn't get a positive for another 3 days and I just did an opk and it can back positive. should we do it again tonight or wait?? ahh. we are swaying for a girl. Not a great sway, more of a lean haha. help!

[XXforhubby]

so crap. we dtd last night (cd 10) thinking I wouldn't get a positive for another 3 days and I just did an opk and it can back positive. should we do it again tonight or wait?? ahh. we are swaying for a girl. Not a great sway, more of a lean haha. help!

I responded in your other thread.


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[Pbn3]

Mwilson if you o day after pos opk you'll have a 2-o attempt which is fantastic timing. Good luck!

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[Pbn3]

Jp15 fluids can really dilute a urine sample and affect your reading when testing. If this cycle is a bfn I'd strongly suggest using the clearblue dual hormone (purple) digis next cycle that use fmu.

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[Filzma]

Hey pbn3, quick question ... about probiotics do I need them and if so, which?


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[Pbn3]

Filzma that's out of my sway knowledge range sorry...

Blue swayers, what's the latest on probiotics? Or xxforhubby if you're reading can you advise if you know?

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[Filzma]

No worries, hopefully someone sheds light on this. I’d posted in the ttc boy section like you suggested and someone mentioned probiotics


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[MsMarie89]

No worries, hopefully someone sheds light on this. I’d posted in the ttc boy section like you suggested and someone mentioned probiotics


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Yes probiotics are recommended for a blue sway!!

I am taking just these basic cheap ones, but these need you to take three a day and I hate having to remember another three things to take so as soon as I’m done with this bottle I’m going to switch to one that only requires you to take one a day.

You can find probiotics in your refrigerated health section at the grocery store or order off amazon. I believe the better strains require refrigeration, but maybe Atomic will chime in.


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[Filzma]

Thank you Marie! [emoji4]


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[JP15]

Jp15 fluids can really dilute a urine sample and affect your reading when testing. If this cycle is a bfn I'd strongly suggest using the clearblue dual hormone (purple) digis next cycle that use fmu.

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Thank you hun, I didn't realise you could get fmu opks. I will have a look.
Just to ask, I have started having a cup of coffee in the morning rather than tea, but am only having the one as I don't like it haha. Is this enough or am I really not helping very much?
:nails::pinksperm:

[Pbn3]

IMO any little bit helps. Its the diet and one attempt that are the biggest factors for pink sway, the exercise has also shown excellant results if you can manage it as well. Everything else you do just adds to this I think :) Nothing on its own us magic though. I've always been a big coffee drinker (like 2-3 a morning when not pregnant) and have two boys plus I would've considered myself a moderate drinker (alcohol). I almost always had at least one drink a day, most times more. But my diet and exercise was strongly blue.

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[JP15]

IMO any little bit helps. Its the diet and one attempt that are the biggest factors for pink sway, the exercise has also shown excellant results if you can manage it as well. Everything else you do just adds to this I think :) Nothing on its own us magic though. I've always been a big coffee drinker (like 2-3 a morning when not pregnant) and have two boys plus I would've considered myself a moderate drinker (alcohol). I almost always had at least one drink a day, most times more. But my diet and exercise was strongly blue.

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I have cut down my calorie intake, trying to have little of everything and skipping breakfast.
I must admit I am trying to add the exercise as I used to do a lot but am finding it hard to find the time.
I have just been to the toilet and have the egg white, stringy cm (sorry TMI), we last BD on Mon 27th, is that our one attempt or do we need to go again today. Or do we BD tomorrow as the e4d??
Sorry for so many questions, you have so much useful information :bowdown:

[Pbn3]

Bd tomorrow to stay in with your e4d. Ewcm can appear days before, during and even after o has taken place. Still no darkening on opk?

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[Pbn3]

Ps. No such thing as tmi here [emoji12]

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[JP15]

Going to test later today :fx:

Does E4D mean that you will always only ever have one attempt within the fertile period? I am so rubbish at this! Haha.

:ttcgirl:

[Pbn3]

Yes it does. An attempt 4-o and older has little chance of contributing to conceiving :)

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[Pbn3]

Just thought I'd better clarify to allow for time zones. It's Friday here tomorrow so that would be the 4th day if my last bd was monday. I'm not sure what whether tomorrow is Thursday or Friday where you are. What you want is three full days between bds and dtd on the 4th. Example if you bded Monday then you dtd again Friday, then Tuesday, then Saturday etc etc You count forward in 24 hour increments if that makes sense :)

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[Pbn3]

Here's a link to some info on the cb dual hormone digi opks that use fmu (or urine after longest sleep if you're a shift worker)

You'd obviously only be aiming at having an attempt at solid smiley to begin with :)

Maximise your chances of conceiving naturally with Clearblue (http://au.clearblue.com/ovulation-tests/advanced-digital)

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[JP15]

Thank you!
I have checked again and now have thick white cm so it changed within the space of a couple of hours :rolleyes:
We are the same, tomorrow is Friday. I am still going to BD tomorrow just in case, but I don't think the sperm will like my cm haha

[Filzma]

Hi y’all took vit D and the probiotic earlier this evening and had some dinner. Feel like throwing up. Normal?


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[kittendreams]

Hey girls hoping to be in this thread but still waiting on my first ppaf- I've been swaying since may this year and had hoped to start ttc around September but my cycles haven't returned yet due to bf.
any tips on how to get af back while bf? My Lo is 1 now but not a great sleeper!

Following all your ttc journeys and crossing my fingers for lots of sticky bfps this month!

[MsMarie89]

Hi y’all took vit D and the probiotic earlier this evening and had some dinner. Feel like throwing up. Normal?


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I don’t think vit d or a probiotic should make you feel nauseous. But I’m not positive. I’ve never had that issue with either supplement


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[MsMarie89]

Hey girls hoping to be in this thread but still waiting on my first ppaf- I've been swaying since may this year and had hoped to start ttc around September but my cycles haven't returned yet due to bf.
any tips on how to get af back while bf? My Lo is 1 now but not a great sleeper!

Following all your ttc journeys and crossing my fingers for lots of sticky bfps this month!

With my dd2, I cut a night feeding out around 9-10 months because she was waking wanting it so often I had to cut it to get some decent sleep and within two weeks of that cut I got my first ppaf.


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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome kittendreams! Sorry I have no advice on how to speed things up when bf but maybe start a thread under the ttc naturally general discussion forum? You'll hopefully get a variety of answers from quite a number of women [emoji4] I know of 2 family members who fell pregnant while breast feeding so it is possible, but I'm not sure if their cycle had returned in some way... One I know was shocked as her doc told her she wouldn't conceive while bf. Are you dtd unprotected for now?

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[Pbn3]

Also kittendreams are you temping to see whether you are getting a regular sustained shift in temps or not to see if you are ovulating even though af hasn't returned?

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[Greydore]

Kittendreams if you can somehow give up night feeds I bet you will get af back quickly!

Good luck to everyone here! I feel so attached to all of you [emoji5] I’ll be following to see all of your beautiful bfp’s! 🤰🏽


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[LMSM]

Kittendreams – happy to see you on a TTC thread!
It’s only when I dropped all night feeds that I finally got consistent ovulatory cycles (had cycles for 8 months or so before that, but probably not ovulatory, at least not all the time).
If there is any way you can try to drop night feeds (or at least one, if multiple), that will up the chances of AF showing up (having said that, you can conceive before that 1st PPAf).
FX for you my dear – truckloads of pink dust headed your way!!!! :D

[kittendreams]

Thanks for the welcome and advice girls- so when you say cutting a night feed do you mean offering a formula bottle in the night I nstead of the breast?

Thanks Pbn �� I conceived ds2 while still bf ds1 so I thought this time would be just as easy but ds2 feeds in the night while ds1 slept through from 3 months but fed all day long, so I think the night feeds are the main problem.
I am temping but no shifts yet but heaps of cramps and pinching in last two months. Sometimes I think the witch is coming and then nothing... so annoying!

LMSM I've been thinking of you and that beautiful baby girl you are cooking! Thanks for the pink dust and everything else I am so excited to ttc I just need af to show ( lol never thought I'd say that haha!)

Oh well I'll just hang here and live vicariously through you ladies til my body gets into gear!

[Filzma]

I don’t think vit d or a probiotic should make you feel nauseous. But I’m not positive. I’ve never had that issue with either supplement


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Thanks. Will wait to see if I feel nauseous with the subsequent ones.

[mummy2boys]

Hi ladies, I've not been on the boards for a few days, life has been busy!! What have I missed? Haven't got a minute yet to read through, can anyone catch me up on where everyone is at? Have I missed any bfps?
I also want some advice if anyone can help. We had an attempt last night and I've just got positive opk this morning. Shall we do it again or not? Eek [emoji51]


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[Pbn3]

Hi mummy2boys! Greydore and dreamingrainbow both got bfps [emoji3]

I see on your charts that you haven't used opks since July? Is that right? I was going to suggest if you consistently o day after pos opk I'd probably hold off especially if you're really wanting only one attempt. If you're ready to up your odds of conception but lessen your sway odds in the number of attempts side of it then I'd go ahead and dtd again. You've been at it a long time now and I think you're at the point that atomic herself would be telling you to introduce the extra attempt at pos opk.... how do you feel about it?

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[mummy2boys]

Yey huge congratulations greydore and dreaming!![emoji322] Thanks pbn [emoji106]
I'm not sure what I want to do tbh. Yeah I've not used opks since July, previously I had even o'd on the same day as pos opk and otherwise the day after. But it has been a long time now and I'm 41 in Jan [emoji33]


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[Noemi2017]

Hello girls, it is 1st december and im 1dc, i :pray:to conceive my dream:XX:this month. I believe miracles happend specially during Christmas:HH:

[Ammue]

Hi Girls,

I am cd2 and taking femara from day 3-7 as prescribed by my re. Hope this is my month.

[Greydore]

Did af come today Noemi?

Ammue have you taken femara before? Exciting, good luck!!


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[Ammue]

Hi Greydore,

Yes i took it the cycle i conceived but sadly that was a chemical. I am really hopeful for this month.

[Noemi2017]

Hello Greydore, how do u feel? Yes af came today so i started new cycle hope successful:pray:

[Greydore]

Ammue I’m so sorry [emoji17] I hope this cycle results in sticky bub for you.

Noemi I’m feeling okay! Started vomiting last night, a week earlier than I usually have ms. Lots of hot flashes, keep opening our doors even though it’s 30 degrees (0 Celsius). Af sucks, but I’m really hoping for a Christmas BFP for you, what a wonderful gift that would be!


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[Noemi2017]

Greydore im sorry u r vomiting:( i hope these pregnancy symptons finish soon and i fingers crossed for a healthy baby girl:ballerina::ballerina:

[ABC.2606]

Hi all - moving over to this board. Got another bfn today. Probably 9/10 dpo and bfn was on a frer. Feeling like I'm out. And now I'm sick - everyone in my house has a cough/cold/respiratory thing and apparently I have it now. My DS1 spiked a temp of almost 105 degrees F the other day and it was terrifying how sick he was. Thankfully he's much better now.

Anyways - so with my son's sickness and the BFNs and being sick now too, I'm pretty down. Have had a few huge crys the past few days including this morning.

Hope everyone else is well.... haven't read through the posts on this board yet but will try to scan through it. Glad to see you back Mummy - was thinking about you the other day & wondering how things were going!

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[mwilson]

Sorry abc that you are sick. I am also sick with a head cold and totally sucks and is kicking my butt. I am 1 dpo and dtd the day before my positive opk so hoping that sticks bc im not in the right state to try another time. I did plan to do another attempt tonight but that is not looking too good. Totally sucks bc this is month 5 of trying and after a chemical month 1 im ready to see a positive.

[Eighme]

Hello girls, it is 1st december and im 1dc, i :pray:to conceive my dream:XX:this month. I believe miracles happend specially during Christmas:HH:

Hi! Me as well. Sending all the pink dust your way this month!


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[mummy2boys]

Aw sorry mwilson and abc, being poorly is rubbish. Hope your son is much better now ABC, it's so scary when they are ill.
You are still early at 9/10 days though, try not to get down yet, I know, It's so disheartening isn't it.
Good luck to everyone for this cycle!!


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[Noemi2017]

Thx u Eighme:bighug:i wish u a lot of pink dust too:pregnant::XX:

[MsMarie89]

Thanks for the welcome and advice girls- so when you say cutting a night feed do you mean offering a formula bottle in the night I nstead of the breast?

Thanks Pbn �� I conceived ds2 while still bf ds1 so I thought this time would be just as easy but ds2 feeds in the night while ds1 slept through from 3 months but fed all day long, so I think the night feeds are the main problem.
I am temping but no shifts yet but heaps of cramps and pinching in last two months. Sometimes I think the witch is coming and then nothing... so annoying!

LMSM I've been thinking of you and that beautiful baby girl you are cooking! Thanks for the pink dust and everything else I am so excited to ttc I just need af to show ( lol never thought I'd say that haha!)

Oh well I'll just hang here and live vicariously through you ladies til my body gets into gear!

Kitten-

I think since lo is over one, I would just try cutting it and offering nothing. But I know from experience, that’s easier said then done [emoji85]. I offered mine milk when I tried to cut that night feeding and she was like nope! No interest in cows milk. So we did it with no replacement and it was hard.


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys given your age I would definately be attempting again tonight. We (us older moms :) ) simply don't have the time and luxury to keep trying to conceive from one attempt for an extended period of time.... Its entirely your decision of course, if you're really uncertain leave it at one attempt this month but I'd move onto adding an additional attempt at pos opk regardless of when your last attempt was if there's next cycle.

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[Pbn3]

Noemi, eighme and Ammue all the best for this cycle and hope the magic of Christmas brings you your very own bfp gift!

Mwilson yay for being 1dpo!! Fx so tight for you and hope you'll be posting a bfp in just over a weeks time! What dpo will you be testing? Ae)re you charting?

ABC I've been thinking of you (hugs) fwiw I still think there's a good chance you're only 8dpo. If you are 9 or 10dpo then af would be due tomorrow or the next day? Your temp hasn't dropped and is still up nice and high so don't give up! You are still very much in with a chance [emoji173]

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[Pbn3]

BBB how are you? Any news on dh's results??!!

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[kittendreams]

Kitten-

I think since lo is over one, I would just try cutting it and offering nothing. But I know from experience, that’s easier said then done [emoji85]. I offered mine milk when I tried to cut that night feeding and she was like nope! No interest in cows milk. So we did it with no replacement and it was hard.


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Thanks MsMarie I think that's what I'll have to do but it will be hard he loves a comfort feed (or 5!) in the night. Just wish he would sleep through then I'm pretty sure my cycle would come back.

Sending you lots of blue dust!

[MsMarie89]

Thanks MsMarie I think that's what I'll have to do but it will be hard he loves a comfort feed (or 5!) in the night. Just wish he would sleep through then I'm pretty sure my cycle would come back.

Sending you lots of blue dust!

That’s how my dd2 was. It got even worse after she turned one, I finally had to cut her off at night cause I was so exhausted all the time. My dd1 was never like that!!

I’m sending you good vibes to find something to help comfort lo and make the transition easier!! And please take alllll my pink dust [emoji23][emoji166]


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[Pbn3]

Pbn did u go team green? :)Noemi I'm sorry I totally missed this a few days ago and just seen it when I went back looking for a post [emoji50] Yes I'm team green and loving it!!! Only 5.5 weeks until my csection and I'm shocked how quick this pregnancy has gone!!! I'm really going to miss having bub in my tummy [emoji24]

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[MsMarie89]

Does anyone know if Matcha is ok for a blue sway?


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[Noemi2017]

Pbn only 5,5 weeks, so enjoy it:pregnant:i also want be team green with my next pregnancy. I think it is nice to be surprised:)

[mwilson]

Pbn, Trying to hold out until the 8th. We leave on the 9th for a wedding out of state and would like to know before we go. But I know that’s crazy early. I’ll probably still test but then test again when we get back on the 12th. I am not temping but have a chart on FF.

[mummy2boys]

Wow not long to go at all pbn! It has flown by! Has it felt fast for you?
Well I decided to leave it to fate and if DH initiated a bd then we would do it, and leave it if not. Of course he did! So now wait and see!


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys I love that you left it to fate!! Totally something I would do other than flipping a coin [emoji23] I'm excited for you!! And yes the time has absolutely flown. Still cannot believe I'm so close [emoji50]

Mwilson does that mean you'll be 8 or 9dpo on the 8th? Not sure if its Friday or Saturday where you are?

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[mwilson]

Mummy2boys I love that you left it to fate!! Totally something I would do other than flipping a coin [emoji23] I'm excited for you!! And yes the time has absolutely flown. Still cannot believe I'm so close [emoji50]

Mwilson does that mean you'll be 8 or 9dpo on the 8th? Not sure if its Friday or Saturday where you are?

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I will 8 dpo approx. I did have a positive opk on the 29th and on the 30th but had some sharp cramps/pains on the 30th so assuming that’s when I o’d.

[mtolbert1]

Hi Girls,

I am cd2 and taking femara from day 3-7 as prescribed by my re. Hope this is my month.Hey Ammue! I am CD 2 and taking femara day 3-7 too! Is this your first round of femara??

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[Babybeaublue]

Hi everyone! Congrats on those bfps xx

ABC really hoping you are not out yet :)

Mummy fx for you
Good luck everyone !

I think I've really Ballsed up this cycle. Dd5 got hold of my thermometer and wiped the temp on cd13. CD 14 I got my pos opk as usual, then that night Dh said he didn't wand to dtd :( i usually tell him as soon as I have a pos, but i didnt this time as he always says it feels like work. So time passed by (even tho he knew by now) and we didn't bd until 1am cd15
So because he may have a low sperm count I thought it was better not to bd in the am and wait, but then my temp went up that day?? We didn't dtd again until 5pm I thought for sure it was too late and cd14 was O day, but my temp was slightly down today so no crosshairs? I'm really confused.
Any suggestions?

[Pbn3]

BBB good to hear from you! I'm not convinced you've oed going by your temps, they are still hovering around your pre o temp range. It is possible you did of course but your chart isn't conclusive at this stage... did you do an opk cd15? Can you do one today?

Mummy2boys it looks like you may have oed!!! Another couple temps should confirm but its looking good [emoji3] So excited for you this cycle!! Cant wait to stalk your chart!!

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[Babybeaublue]

Ok I forgot to put my opks in (neg cd15) and I got crosshairs?! I took my temp slightly earlier but only like 10 or 15 minutes at most.

[Pbn3]

Ok. So could just be a slow rise like last cycle? I'd dtd again today just to be on the safe side though if its possible? If history repeats we should see another rise tomorrow :)

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[Babybeaublue]

I was thinking that, my problem is Dh not wanting to :( never thought I'd see the day he'd be too tired etc :(

[Pbn3]

See how you go... is it morning where you are? Hopefully he'll be up for it tonight... I'd just try and initiate things and see what happens maybe. You are doing the very best you can BBB [emoji173]

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[mummy2boys]

BBB can you post a link to your chart? I want to stalk too [emoji23][emoji23]
Pbn, I'm not sure about my temp this morning as my little one had a restless night so I was awake quite a lot. And the batteries died in my thermometer so I had to use an in your ear one [emoji51] I've also got another positive opk ( even more positive than yesterday) so not sure!!


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[Babybeaublue]

Mummy the link is in my signature? Not sure if you can see it

Deed done lol

If I did O at pos opk how many attempts count?

[mummy2boys]

Ah found it, I had to click on your name. Yey! And fx this is your month 🤞
Do you feel like you have oed?



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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys oh no!!! Then that temp is definately not reliable and I'd probably even remove it... Can you get a new battery today?

BBB if you oed at pos opk then your cd13 attempt counts and possibly your 1am attempt cd15 :)

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[Pbn3]

I'm off to sleep ladies! Talk to you in the AM x

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[Babybeaublue]

Oh great maybe only one attempt then. How pink :tissue:

[Babybeaublue]

Mummy, I usually get some sort of pain or cramps but nothing much this time so I've no idea

[Ammue]

Hi Girls,

Wishing all the best to everyone!!


My re has prescribed me femara, but i am thinking to avoid this month. She will be doing follicular study, so i will get to know whether i am ovulating or not. If not i will go for femara next cycle. I am really focussing on diet and exercise, hoping this will help in egg development. What else i can do for egg development?

[ABC.2606]

Hi BBB!! Good to hear from you!

Ok so whenever I test with a FRER I keep getting this faint line that shows up immediately but then kinda fades after a few minutes. There's a tiny bit of color in the lines but not much. And after like 15 minutes the line is pretty much gone. I know that it's not a positive but why are the FRERs doing this? I've never seen this happen before. I know about evap lines but I thought those showed up after the test dries? And it's been a few days of this and different packs of FRERs so it's not just a faulty batch.

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[Greydore]

Hi BBB!! Good to hear from you!

Ok so whenever I test with a FRER I keep getting this faint line that shows up immediately but then kinda fades after a few minutes. There's a tiny bit of color in the lines but not much. And after like 15 minutes the line is pretty much gone. I know that it's not a positive but why are the FRERs doing this? I've never seen this happen before. I know about evap lines but I thought those showed up after the test dries? And it's been a few days of this and different packs of FRERs so it's not just a faulty batch.

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That is EXACTLY what happened to me for my October cycle. I kept thinking I was getting a BFP because of that immediate line. I definitely wasn’t, and it was such a letdown. That’s why I didn’t use frers this cycle, just cheapies and a digital.


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[ABC.2606]

That is EXACTLY what happened to me for my October cycle. I kept thinking I was getting a BFP because of that immediate line. I definitely wasn’t, and it was such a letdown. That’s why I didn’t use frers this cycle, just cheapies and a digital.


[emoji170]10/2013 [emoji170]2/2016Greydore ok good to know I'm not crazy at least haha!! I've never had that happen before this cycle. Sigh. I just bought more for this/next cycle maybe I shouldn't have!

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[Babybeaublue]

ABC I had it happen but with a clearblue (it was all I could get) luckily I knew how bad blue dye tests can be, but it still gets your hopes up :(

[ABC.2606]

BBB - Yea it totally was getting my hopes up. Ugh. I know I'm not "officially" out yet but feel like I am. I hate this process. Yesterday I was so down and depressed I told DH we were done trying. I'm just so tired of it.

[Babybeaublue]

I know, it's so devastating, stressful and disappointing but we keep going because we want it so bad. Sending you hugs through space and time lol
I don't know what's worse this cycle, thinking there's no way it worked this time, or that if it did it was a total pink sway attempts wise.

[ABC.2606]

BBB do you think you ended up w/ 2 attempts? I know that's not the most "boy friendly" - but fwiw I conceived DS1 with 2 attempts and I believe they were the night before O and the night of O day - so that 2nd one may have been too late!

[Pbn3]

BBB I'm still not convinced you oed going by your temps. Also want to add that I conceived ds1 dtd maybe 3 times in my fertile window but eod (only 2 attempts at most would have counted) and ds2 was conceived with a PM attempt day before and AM attempt day of o (so possibly only one but technically two attempts) so don't get too hung up on the whole number of attempts. My diet and exercise was heavily HE and I think in my case that over ruled anything else.

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[ABC.2606]

Same with my DS1, Pbn!! I was basically doing a full boy sway with him without knowing it :)

[Babybeaublue]

Thanks x I don't know why I'm bothered probably didn't work anyway lol
I guess I'll see what happens with tomorrows temp. I'm usually like clockwork tho..

[ABC.2606]

Ok so what is going on. I did another FRER late today (I don't know why), and looked at it for a couple of minutes or so and it looked negative so I put it down and walked away. Went back to the bathroom a little while ago and was going to throw it away and when I looked at it again, there is a faint line, that has some pink in it. It's very faint but visible. Is this just an indent? Do I disregard because it was like, I don't know maybe an hour after I had taken the test? I have never seen this before with FRERs.

AHH!! I'm losing my mind here with these tests!

[Greydore]

ABC can you post a picture? I definitely get those indent lines after the test sits for awhile.


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[ABC.2606]

I can't get a good picture of it on my phone... I showed it to DH, he said he definitely sees the line and he says he can't tell for sure if it's pink or grey. Maybe it's an indent... I don't know anymore!

It's slightly darker in real life than in this pic.

Sigh. TTC-ing is hard enought w/o the tests driving you crazy!

[mtolbert1]

I can't get a good picture of it on my phone... I showed it to DH, he said he definitely sees the line and he says he can't tell for sure if it's pink or grey. Maybe it's an indent... I don't know anymore!

It's slightly darker in real life than in this pic.

Sigh. TTC-ing is hard enought w/o the tests driving you crazy!Abc!!!! I see a very clear pink line! I didn't have to zoom in or anything!

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[ABC.2606]

Really, mtolbert? Is a pink line that shows up after the time limit valid though? I don't know if I even waited the full 3 or 5 minutes you're supposed to wait before I walked away - I assumed it was negative - so maybe it showed up not long after, but whenever I have gotten a bfp on a FRER (including my m/c) the line shows up right away.

[mtolbert1]

Really, mtolbert? Is a pink line that shows up after the time limit valid though? I don't know if I even waited the full 3 or 5 minutes you're supposed to wait before I walked away - I assumed it was negative - so maybe it showed up not long after, but whenever I have gotten a bfp on a FRER (including my m/c) the line shows up right away.I'm no expert by ANY means but in my opinion it's so clear and SO pink (and you said it didn't show up as well in the picture) that to me that definitely looks like more than an evap!!! I know Pbn has asked me to see the pic after the test has dried because you can see it clearer that way! I so hope im right and that's a BFP because the whole reason I got on today was to check if you had gotten your BFP today!!! Fx and so many prayers for you!!! I know how stressful and draining this is, especially after a m/c!

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[mtolbert1]

And technically after the time frame, it isn't valid. But again its so clear that I'm thinking (and praying) it will be a clear BFP in the morning!

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[ABC.2606]

Aw thanks mtolbert! And thanks for checking in on me today!! I think I might take one more test before the night is over - I know, I've become a total POAS freak but these crazy lines on the FRERs are making me bonkers. Plus I haven't had anything to drink for awhile so I'll probably have a decent sample haha.

You're doing femara right now right? When is O time for you this month?

[mtolbert1]

You're welcome! We're all in this together! I am a POAS addict too [emoji23] and I always convince myself I MIGHT see the tiniest line ever lol I'll be watching for your next BFP because im almost willing to bet my right hand this is it! Lol.

Thank you for remembering! I took my first dose of femara for this cycle today (cd 3)! I usually o cd 14 or 15. I'm hoping I o on time or even a little early so i can get my BFP in time for Christmas!!

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[ABC.2606]

Mtolbert yea that's so exciting!!!! That would be perfect to get a bfp right at Christmas!! Will you just do OPKs, or is your doc doing an u/s around O? Not sure how they do things w/ femara.

Well 2nd frer tonight showed *maybe* a squinter but far less than the earlier one so I guess those tests are just playing tricks with my mind. Sigh.

[mtolbert1]

When I first got on femara my Dr did bloodwork to confirm it was making me ovulate, and since then I've either done opk's or just temping. I've recently dropped the opk's though and have only been temping to confirm o. I wish my Dr would do u/s but they wont. I couldn't even get them to give me more frequent ultrasounds with my last pregnancy(which I lost.) These Drs are driving me insane.. most of them make me feel like im crazy for worrying...

Please post a pic!!! I love looking for squinters! Maybe your pee was more diluted this time, who knows!

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[ABC.2606]

Ugh!! That's frustrating about the doctors! I get so annoyed when docs don't take my questions/concern seriously. Yes, they are the professionals but patient concerns are important!!! And good grief, you had a miscarriage - you are completely right to be worried & deserve the extra reassurance!!! Does femara not have the risks that Clomid has (as far as multiple follicles and such) and that's why they don't monitor as closely? I feel like I've seen atomic say femara is the safer of the two meds.

Eh I promise you this squinter wont show up in a pic :( The pee looked concentrated but there wasn't much of it so maybe that's why... will just try again tomorrow.

[mtolbert1]

Yes exactly!! DH and I have been trying for almost 2 years now and I've had 2 miscarriages in a row with no explanation. I even switched Drs but still no repeat bloodwork, ultrasounds, ect. When I had my emergency d&c they were supposed to send the baby off for testing and somehow forgot??!! It's been a really irritating process and keeping my cool hasn't been easy to say the least. But, my Dr finally agreed to put me on progesterone as soon as I get a BFP so hopefully that will help!!! Yes, atomic also told me that femara is the safer of the 2! The only side effect I get is headaches while taking it.

I'll be watching for your am test! What time is it where you are?? It's 1:04 am here! For some reason I'm a night owl these days. Please don't lose hope! I have a good feeling about this cycle for you!!!!

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[Pbn3]

Omg my notifications didn't work and I just stumbled on this!!! Abc that looks like a bona fide pink bfp to me!!!! Omg!!! I cant wait for mornings test!!! It actually looks abit darker than my 9dpo line too!! I know you think you're more dpo than that but I'm still convinced you are 9dpo [emoji6] I never checked my tests until 8 minutes or so had passed because I found sometimes it too that long for the line to become visible. So how long until morning???!!!! I bet its middle of the night for me [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] I'll be stalking madly when I wake up!!!! I know Robin had a very convincing frer line that turned out to be nothing but I sure hope this isn't the same case again.... everything crossef so tightly for you!! I'm nearly considering setting my alarm during the night to check [emoji23][emoji23] actually what am I talking about??!! I pee at least 4 times a night so I'll check in as soon as!!! So just to work it out properly how many hours till morning??!!

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[Pbn3]

Fwiw that line is clearly pink no question about it. Evaps and indents have a greyish hue to them or are too hard to tell but that simply looks pink. Gosh I am so excited for you Abc [emoji173]

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[ABC.2606]

Mtolbert I forgot you had a m/c before the recent one :( You've been through so much! Will be praying my hardest that you get that perfect little sticky bean soon - like this month!!! And are you kidding me - they forgot to send the baby off for testing? That's terrible of them. Progesterone sounds like a great idea. They will at least run betas when you get a bfp, yea?

It's after 11 pm here - I have been a night owl my whole life, it's literally how I'm programmed haha! I go to sleep before 10 pm maybe about 5 times a year!!

Pbn you crack me up!! I just burst out laughing reading your post!! Honestly - I'm not convinced at all yet. This is just so weird - it really feels like the FRERs are playing tricks on me. And yea not being sure about the O date is making me crazy too - nothing about that makes sense. First +OPK on Monday, two huge follicles on u/s on Tuesday morning, EWCM Sunday-Wednesday, dry on Thursday, and temp rise on Friday. I mean are you kidding me?! But as atomic has told me a few times now, Clomid can do weird stuff I guess. I wont test again for another 8 hours at least so please don't wake up on my account! :) But lol about the peeing thing - I'm thankful I really didn't deal w/ that w/ my two boys... somehow neither of them ended up pushing on my bladder much!

[Pbn3]

Abc I came back on to edit my post and say that could easily be a 10 or 11dpo line too, just that I was comparing it to mine :) Did not get a notification you had posted [emoji30] darn Tapatalk!!! I'll stick to stalking instead. Ok so 8 hours will be approx 1am my time so I'll talk to you between then and 4am [emoji23][emoji23] fx so tight for confirmation!!! [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

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[ABC.2606]

Abc I came back on to edit my post and say that could easily be a 10 or 11dpo line too, just that I was comparing it to mine :) Did not get a notification you had posted [emoji30] darn Tapatalk!!! I'll stick to stalking instead. Ok so 8 hours will be approx 1am my time so I'll talk to you between then and 4am [emoji23][emoji23] fx so tight for confirmation!!! [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

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[Girlswaylondon]

AF finally arrived so I can join this December group now!

ABC that’s a line!!

[Pbn3]

Glad you're out of limbo girlswaylondon [emoji3]

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[Girlswaylondon]

Me too! :) I’m guessing the le diet has made it so I spot for one day, which I’ve never ever had!

Quick question do I count spotting day as cycle day 1? Or heavy flow?

[Filzma]

Girlswaylondon, that’s a great sign of a working sway! Welcome aboard.

ABC congrats!! That’s deffo bfp and I’m not even squinting! [emoji322][emoji322]


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[Greydore]

ABC!!!! That is totally a line!!! Yay!!! So excited to see your next test [emoji322][emoji322]

Girlsway yay for finally being out of limbo!! I always count the spotting as CD1, but maybe others will tell you differently. Do you think you will do anything different this cycle as far as attempts? All my fx for a Christmas BFP for you!


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[Girlswaylondon]

I’m tempted to do e4d this cycle, but not sure?!

How many attempts did you have the month you conceived, greydore?

[Babybeaublue]

ABC!!!! Hurry up with that test!! Fxfxfxfxfx

Girlsway, cd1 would be full flow. The spotting drives me mad never had it before either.

Greydore how are You??

[Pbn3]

Cd1 is first day of full flow :)

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[Noemi2017]

Abc congrats:flowerz:welcome here girlsway im already cd3 so who will ovulate this month sooner:giggle: i would count spotting as cd1.

[Greydore]

Girlsway I had two attempts in the fertile window. I’m not swaying and wanted to be pregnant more than have a certain gender. So we’ll see how things end up :)

BBB I’m good! Waves of nausea and unbelievably warm all the time, but I don’t mind the symptoms since hopefully it means baby will stick!


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[JP15]

Hi Ladies, I'm due AF on 13th Dec, but have been spotting today. Could this be implantation bleeding?

[EnglishDame]

Hi ladies, wondering if I could join you here please? This 2ww really has me uptight, I just want to be pregnant now and really hoped we would be going in to next year with a little secret. I have a bad feeling that this month isn't going to be our month. Due af in a week.

Congrats to the girls with a bfp, fingers crossed to see a few more on here too!

[Girlswaylondon]

Hi English! How many attempts have you been having?

[ABC.2606]

This is after about 10 minutes this morning.

So yea - I'm not convinced. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/0478165b09551e64753956cd0c49def8.jpg

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[Eighme]

Well, AF came right at the end of November. So my attempt got pushed to sooner rather than later! Fingers crossed for me and everyone else this month. I still have a few weeks, but it’s nerve wracking being this close after starting this diet and thinking my attempt was forever away!


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[ABC.2606]

This is a wondfo after 20 minutes - but wondfos really shouldn't be checked after the first 5 minutes right? The line wasn't really there in the first few minutes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/183b82625b695b5ce63a9c581e6a56a1.jpg

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[Verena]

Hello ladies,

I hope you don't mind me joining this month's tww. Actually I'm not ttc yet as hubby was not convinced of a third child yet and I hoped to persuade him by Feb next year. I am on a not so strict LE diet for some months now and had just started exercising two weeks ago. But hubby surprised me with wanting to bd without protection some days ago and I was feeling overwhelmed and ask him to pull out as I was not really ready but didn't want to say no either lol. So I guess there is not really a chance of getting pregnant but as a poas addict I know I'll start testing soon ;-) on the day we bd unprotected my ovulation test was positive, so why knows...

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[EnglishDame]

We had 2 this month, 1 at pos opk and the night before we had dtd too!

ABC I would be surprised if you're not pregnant, surely so many tests wouldn't all come up with lines after the time. I've had bfns and been squinting for days and still never had a line.

[Verena]

This is a wondfo after 20 minutes - but wondfos really shouldn't be checked after the first 5 minutes right? The line wasn't really there in the first few minutes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/183b82625b695b5ce63a9c581e6a56a1.jpg

Sent from my SM-G900T using TapatalkABC I don't want to get your hopes too high but to me that is really looking positive! How many dpo are you?

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[Pbn3]

Abc you're pregnant!!!! [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] I'll come back at a decent hour but huge congratulations!! Those are both fantastic lines!!

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks all. I just don't feel convinced - I've never experienced this whole super faint line that shows up after the time limit thing. Every month we've ttc/got pregnant either a line came up immediately or no line showed up no matter how hard or long I squinted! And my last 2 pregnancies (including my m/c in Aug) I had a clear positive at 9 or 10 dpo.

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[ABC.2606]

Hello ladies,

I hope you don't mind me joining this month's tww. Actually I'm not ttc yet as hubby was not convinced of a third child yet and I hoped to persuade him by Feb next year. I am on a not so strict LE diet for some months now and had just started exercising two weeks ago. But hubby surprised me with wanting to bd without protection some days ago and I was feeling overwhelmed and ask him to pull out as I was not really ready but didn't want to say no either lol. So I guess there is not really a chance of getting pregnant but as a poas addict I know I'll start testing soon ;-) on the day we bd unprotected my ovulation test was positive, so why knows...

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[JP15]

Hello ladies,

I hope you don't mind me joining this month's tww. Actually I'm not ttc yet as hubby was not convinced of a third child yet and I hoped to persuade him by Feb next year. I am on a not so strict LE diet for some months now and had just started exercising two weeks ago. But hubby surprised me with wanting to bd without protection some days ago and I was feeling overwhelmed and ask him to pull out as I was not really ready but didn't want to say no either lol. So I guess there is not really a chance of getting pregnant but as a poas addict I know I'll start testing soon ;-) on the day we bd unprotected my ovulation test was positive, so why knows...

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Good luck hun!! You never know xx

[Girlswaylondon]

ABC all my tests were stark white, even after a dat! I think you’re pregnant!

[Mommy2apples]

ABC! That’s pink!! Oh so excited for you!!


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[Mommy2apples]

ABC! I believe you are pregnant! So excited for you!


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[mummy2boys]

Yey congrats ABC! [emoji322]


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks ladies - we'll see what happens :)

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[mtolbert1]

Mtolbert I forgot you had a m/c before the recent one :( You've been through so much! Will be praying my hardest that you get that perfect little sticky bean soon - like this month!!! And are you kidding me - they forgot to send the baby off for testing? That's terrible of them. Progesterone sounds like a great idea. They will at least run betas when you get a bfp, yea?

It's after 11 pm here - I have been a night owl my whole life, it's literally how I'm programmed haha! I go to sleep before 10 pm maybe about 5 times a year!!

Pbn you crack me up!! I just burst out laughing reading your post!! Honestly - I'm not convinced at all yet. This is just so weird - it really feels like the FRERs are playing tricks on me. And yea not being sure about the O date is making me crazy too - nothing about that makes sense. First +OPK on Monday, two huge follicles on u/s on Tuesday morning, EWCM Sunday-Wednesday, dry on Thursday, and temp rise on Friday. I mean are you kidding me?! But as atomic has told me a few times now, Clomid can do weird stuff I guess. I wont test again for another 8 hours at least so please don't wake up on my account! :) But lol about the peeing thing - I'm thankful I really didn't deal w/ that w/ my two boys... somehow neither of them ended up pushing on my bladder much!Yeah it's been a long hard road and even DH said he doesn't think we can handle another loss. Yes, they "forgot"... I was so mad and upset but all I could do was cry. That being said, we are both feeling really optimistic. We conceived the most recent baby we lost on cycle 2 of femara, so im really hopeful this cycle 2 of femara will be our lucky one and we get a healthy sticky bean!!!! At my current dr they only want to do 1 round of bloodwork at 8 weeks which seems crazy to me because that doesn't show if the numbers are doubling, so I may have to get a little more insistent and less patient when I finally do get my BFP! After talking with Pbn, I've decided to do the SMEP this time. Though I long for a girl, I would be just as happy and in love with another baby boy!

I understand why you are so hesitant to believe this is your BFP as I am the same way. But I truly believe this is yours!!! Your lines look great and I don't have to squint or anything!! I showed my sister your tests as well and she thinks they look positive too! And she couldn't even see my previous BFP in person at first [emoji23] Are you going to go in for betas tomorrow??

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[Pbn3]

Abc I second mtolbert (hi there [emoji6]! Great to see you here [emoji3]) and would get betas for peace of mind. This is only morning 2 of testing, hcg doubles every 48 hours. Tomorrows frer will be darker, like this mornings but even more noticable. And that's a great line on the wondfo! If you'd taken a photo at 5-10 minutes I bet we all would have seen something. They are easier to see dry is all when testing this early. Remember you are only JUST pregnant! My early tests took awhile for the line to show up. I learnt to walk away and come back at the 8 minute mark to avoid panicking. Within another day or so you will begin to se the line straight away but it will still take to darken.

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[Pbn3]

Eighme how exciting!!!! All the best for this cycle! What did you decide on? One attempt at pos opk or an e4d pattern?

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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome english! So what dpo are you on now if you assume o day was day after pos opk? Will you be testing before af due or waiting to see if it arrives?

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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome Verena!! I swear there is something to getting pregnant when you're really not trying so I wouldn't be surprised if you are even with pull out! So what dpo would you be if o was day after pos opk and what dpo are you going to start testing?

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[ABC.2606]

Mtolbert I'm glad you guys are feeling positive and I'm going to be positive with you and keep everything crossed that this is your sticky bean cycle!!!! If I was in your position I would insist on early betas. I don't know why it would be a big deal for your doc - they're such simple blood tests. But obviously you have to decide what is best for you. They can cause more stress if the numbers start off slow even if the pregnancy is fine.

I just bought FR digitals so I guess I'll try one of those tomorrow! If I get a clearer positive in the next day or so I'll probably call my doc and request betas this week. I think you all are seeing the lines in pics better than I am in person!!

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[Greydore]

ABC that’s positive!! So many congrats for you!!! I remember my tests looking super dark after sitting for awhile, but at first DH couldn’t see the line. So I think that’s totally normal!


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks Pbn!

Weird question - this past week was really stressful with my son's illness and other stuff going on. I felt really emotional and stressed all week. Then I also got sick myself mid-week (respiratory stuff) and had a very low grade fever on Thursday night. Could that have maybe delayed implantation slightly or affect how my hcg levels are rising? I'm guessing not but just wondering if that has to do with it.

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[Verena]

Hi and welcome Verena!! I swear there is something to getting pregnant when you're really not trying so I wouldn't be surprised if you are even with pull out! So what dpo would you be if o was day after pos opk and what dpo are you going to start testing?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkThank you pbn! I am 2 dpo today and will probably start testing in 5 days as I tested positive with DS1 and DS2 at 9 and 8 dpo... Omg that's so soon! I love testing ;-)

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[Pbn3]

Abc I wouldn't think so?? I honestly don't know.. I seem to recall something about fevers during implantation so its possible it took longer? I wouldn't think it'd have any bearing on hcg growth though [emoji848] I think by tomorrow morning you'll feel alot more confident [emoji173] have you kept your tests? You'll see progression alot easier with three tests!

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[Pbn3]

Thank you pbn! I am 2 dpo today and will probably start testing in 5 days as I tested positive with DS1 and DS2 at 9 and 8 dpo... Omg that's so soon! I love testing ;-)

Gesendet von meinem SM-G930F mit TapatalkI love a poas addict [emoji3][emoji6]!!! I couldn't even hazard a guess how many tests I've taken in the past but it would number in the hundreds [emoji85] make sure you post any suspect squinters!!!

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[ABC.2606]

Abc I wouldn't think so?? I honestly don't know.. I seem to recall something about fevers during implantation so its possible it took longer? I wouldn't think it'd have any bearing on hcg growth though [emoji848] I think by tomorrow morning you'll feel alot more confident [emoji173] have you kept your tests? You'll see progression alot easier with three tests!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkOk. Thanks pbn. :) :) :)

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[Verena]

I love a poas addict [emoji3][emoji6]!!! I couldn't even hazard a guess how many tests I've taken in the past but it would number in the hundreds [emoji85] make sure you post any suspect squinters!!!

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI have just ordered a pack with 50 cheapies from Amazon to make sure I don't run out of tests lol. I even took opks every cycle since pp af although we were not ttc. Just because I like testing so much ;-) I will post for sure as soon I suspect something on the tests!

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[ABC.2606]

Negative on a First Response Gold digital after 3 hr hold & nothing to drink. Aren't the FR digitals supposed to be as sensitive as the manual?

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[Mommy2apples]

ABC, hcg probably isn’t strong enough to pick it up yet. The second morning I was convinced I was having a chemical ask pbn!
First day tests
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Fmu next day https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/eed550ef80876048e0cf0ad1d0e4a1fa.jpg
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[ABC.2606]

Interesting Mommy! Yea that's what I told DH after the negative - maybe a chemical. What day did you go in for the first beta?

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[Pbn3]

Abc I wouldn't use a digital until 12dpo as its dicey whether they're sensitive enough or not.... I've had the same happen last year as well negative on a cb digi at 10dpo and frer looked lighter and questionable if even a line after a more obvious one 9dpo but I did a hold the same day and my frer line was back and obvious. Hang in there! I know its frustrating but it simply takes time for progression plus each test varies in sensitivity making it even harder testing so early when hcg amounts are so small. You aren't going to see much progression from first day to the next if any (I did with yours though) By tomorrow and onwards you should start seeing an obvious darkening [emoji173]

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[Pbn3]

And yes mommy2apples is a perfect example of progression at such early stage! Thank you for posting that mommy [emoji173]

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[Mommy2apples]

ABC, 2 days after my first pregnancy test.
25th it was 49
27 it was 131
31 it was 601
Nov 9 was 5,776


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[Mommy2apples]

Welcome pbn, you know I was scared.


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks pbn and Mommy. I feel like I'm hogging this board up today, I'm sorry :( This is just a new experience for me. Even with the m/c in August, I had a very clear positive on 10 dpo that got slowly darker each day. I really wonder if this cold/respiratory thing I'm fighting has anything to do with what's going on. My temp got up to about 99.4 today (which isn't "technically" a fever I guess but I run very low temps so for me that's really high) and I had a lot of aches in my shoulder. I actually felt pretty awful and had to take a nap. Now I'm just trying to drink a lot of water and then we'll try a test again tomorrow!

[Eighme]

Thanks, Pbn! I think I’m going to try pos opk. There was no sway attempt with my son and we BD’s often so I wanted to give this a try before e4d! Fingers crossed!


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[Verena]

Do you all do your normal exercise program in the tww? I'm somehow afraid of damaging the embryo... or hinder implantation...

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[Pbn3]

Verena hi! If you're worried about the exercise can you choose a lower impact version like walking instead of running during the 2ww?

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[Babybeaublue]

ABC can't wait to see that darker line! praying for your rainbow xx

Verena atomic says stick to the exercise in 2ww, as she says, if it could do any damage the human race would've died out long ago. Maybe drop the intensity if it makes you feel better tho.

Mommy! How are you feeling??

Greydore after a mc u was glad of my 24hr nausea with dd5 so def a good sign x

Mummy what's happening?? How's your chart looking now? I showed you mine so show me yours lol :giggle:

Anyone else testing soon? I can't keep track!

Jp15 how many dpo did you have spotting?

[Pbn3]

BBB what are your thoughts on your chart? I think there's a very good chance you're 2dpo rather than 5 [emoji848] oing up to 72 hours after pos opk while on the longer side can still be considered normal... did you take note of cm or any other signs between cd14 and 17?

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[Verena]

My normal exercise is walking on a treadmill anyway... I did it today with reduced velocity but I felt guilty afterwards... Then I'll continue to do it this way for the next days. Thank you! :-)

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[mummy2boys]

Haha BBB! I think my chart is linked when I post? I've got dotted crosshairs today but I think it's wrong, I think I oed the day after. How are you doing?
ABC, how's things? Hope that line gets darker today.


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[Filzma]

Ladies, it’s my first time tracking and not trying to ttc. My cycle is 26-29

I’m currently on cd11 and had a pos opk yesterday. Nearly missed it as I assumed I’d be checking twice (am/pm) starting cd11. I’ve also been tracking my bbt on my app and didn’t input the +opk until later this morn. So just based on my temp spike this morn the app picked up on my ovulation today!

Did an opk today and it’s barely pos. My cm’s not ewcm, tbh I usually get that later on in the cycle...
Do I really ovulate this early? And if so what would be the implications for ttc?


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[Pbn3]

Filzma can you post a screenshot of your app chart?

Mummy2boys I seen earlier where ff put your crosshairs and just shook my head [emoji23] my guess is 2-3dpo. Did you do an opk cd13?

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[Babybeaublue]

Mummy I can't see any link??

Pbn I'm thinking O was delayed too. I wonder if it was because I was so stressed and upset over Dh not wanting to bd at the right time? I didn't sleep until about 2am and I'm usually out for about 11pm lol Having said that, looking back at my charts, Im usualy a slow riser.
If I am only 2dpo then that's maybe better attempts wise?

Does anyone know if it's ok to have a hair colour in the tww? I made an appointment thinking it would be day before AF but now looks like I'll only be 9 or 10dpo

[Filzma]

Sorry pbn3 the opk tracking is so tacky. I didn’t have glue and cellotape just makes it look like there’s water on sides. Urgh embarrassed
Anyaway idk if there’s much to tell from 4 days worth of bbt? Then there’s the brazen app telling me what to do 🤦*♀️
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[Pbn3]

BBB if o day is cd17 then you have 3 attempts [emoji3] In relation to the hair dyeing, I've never been able to find a consistent answer or explanation either for or against. Maybe ask if they have any 'natural' ingredient dyes to choose from or see if you can source your own maybe? From what I'm able to gather its the possible chemicals in the dye that is the cause for concern. Alternatively can you postpone your appt until you know?

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[Pbn3]

Filzma looks like your app has simply put in cd11 as o day because of your pos opk on cd10. (By the way they look perfectly fine!!) There is not near enough temps yet to say either way. You can o anywhere from 12-72 (generally 12-48) hours after pos opk so it will be interesting to see what the next couple days temp do! That is a definate pos opk though. It's no problem ttc if you o on cd11, people have conceived from even earlier [emoji50] Can you post a daily screenshot of your chart over the next few days? We'll nut it out eventually [emoji6]

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[Pbn3]

Hang on sorry that's saying you ovulated yesterday (I was looking at the grey line through cd11 as o indicator) Don't pay any attention to it because as I said before there is not near enough temps to determine that yet :)

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[Pbn3]

You should download the free fertility friend app (that's all I ever used) its alot easier to read :)

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[Filzma]

Thanks pbn3 will keep tracking bbt and post on here. So is there any point of doing opks after o? Does this mean I’ll be chugging down robitussin with the lack of ewcm? Hope it tastes good![emoji38]
Thanks pbn3 [emoji177][emoji177][emoji177]


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[Filzma]

Downloading right after I hit the send.


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[Pbn3]

I'd keep doing opks for a few more days just to rule out a false surge plus give us a chance to see what your temps do.... will be good to know how long your lp is too so definately keep up the temping [emoji3]

To save you doing screenshots can you post a link to your chart that I can save (there's no access involved, its simply a link to view only your chart). At the top rh corner of your ff app press the dropdown menu (3 dots or dashes I think it is?) Select share chart and data, create/preview homepage. Press on the web address shown and your chart will open in your phone browser. Copy the link/web address and post into a comment in here :)

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[Pbn3]

I'm off to sleep lovely ladies but just want to say Abc I cannot wait to see your morning test [emoji3][emoji3] Goodnight all xxoo

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[Babybeaublue]

Pbn my hairdresser is always booked up esp coming up to Christmas. I havent had my hair done in months!! Every time I go to book something it ends up in the tww. I've cancelled other things before and then AF comes, it's a joke

[Girlswaylondon]

Wondering whether I should try temping, what do you think? Also where do you all get your thermometers from?

[Greydore]

Wondering whether I should try temping, what do you think? Also where do you all get your thermometers from?

Personally I wouldn’t. Temping just caused anxiety for me, and it’s the least reliable fertility sign (compared to opk’s and cm). My temps were a mess this last cycle, I couldn’t tell when I O’ed because they were all over the place, so that stressed me out too. If you do want to temp, you can buy a cheap basal thermometer at any drugstore. I know some women temp vaginally because of how variable mouth temping can be, so that’s something to consider too.

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway im temping 3 years and i like it:)

[Babybeaublue]

Girlsway it depends on how you sleep. If you have to get up a lot at night I wouldn't bother, but if you get a decent sleep every night then go for it. I set my alarm and keep the thermometer right beside the bed as you don't want to move too much. Also you need at least 3 hrs unbroken sleep before you take it.
I got mine from boots but it's about 10 years old now! (this ain't my first rodeo)

[ABC.2606]

Yea, this has to be a chemical. The lines simply are not getting darker at all after 3 days. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171204/7ac443959775a1307b647a1db8751694.jpg

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[Filzma]

There you go pbn3! https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1783
Thank you so much for all the help and advice!! Really appreciate it xxx



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[Mommy2apples]

Take one smu abc and see what it shows up


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[Filzma]

Wondering whether I should try temping, what do you think? Also where do you all get your thermometers from?

I just started temping 4 days ago. Vaginally as well. Got my thermometer off amazon. I forgot to do it the first morning but I’m already getting the hang of it.

[Mommy2apples]

BBB I feel good for the most part, only had four episodes of actual vomiting. Other than that hungry all the time and nausea til about noon. Can’t really complain at all.

How are you feeling?


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[Filzma]

Wow mommy2apples that’s not bad at all! I remember I lived under my duvet and by the toilet seat in the first trimester. No appetite whatsoever.
Heightened sense of smell?


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[Babybeaublue]

ABC praying this is going to turn out right for you xx

Mommy I only ever vomited once or twice in each of my pregnancies but the nausea is horrendous, it lasted until 25 weeks with dd5 even through the night! Its good if you can eat you need to feed up that little bean!
I'm ok feel like I'm over this cycle already and just want to move on tbh

[mummy2boys]

Abc, I have everything crossed that the line gets darker next time for you. It's so disheartening, a very similar thing happened to me in July.
BBB, I thought my chart was linked but it's disappeared.. I've no idea how to get it back lol
Pbn, my opk was negative on cd 13, ff has gone crazy [emoji23][emoji23]


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[mummy2boys]

Ooh I've fixed it! Can you see the link now?


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[Girlswaylondon]

Personally I wouldn’t. Temping just caused anxiety for me, and it’s the least reliable fertility sign (compared to opk’s and cm). My temps were a mess this last cycle, I couldn’t tell when I O’ed because they were all over the place, so that stressed me out too. If you do want to temp, you can buy a cheap basal thermometer at any drugstore. I know some women temp vaginally because of how variable mouth temping can be, so that’s something to consider too.

I kind of feel I would stress myself out, hence why I haven’t temped so far.

[Filzma]

ABC just give it a bit of time. You never know really. xx


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[Babybeaublue]

Yes! Mummy i can see it now lol how many dpo do You think you are?

[ABC.2606]

Smu. Seems a little darker.

I left a message with doc about running betas. If he's fine with it I'll probably go in tomorrow morning.

Thanks all for being so supportive and patient with me - I know there's nothing I can do but wait!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171204/c8e41baffaf4813e233ad180244be5e2.jpg

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[ABC.2606]

Here's a better pic with DH's phonehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171204/ab4cb7cc5fe7c050051e79113672cc05.jpg

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[ABC.2606]

Verena - I continue to exercise during the tww - although this time I cut back a little on the frequency and intensity (but I've also been sick too so that's part of it). I wouldn't think it would be a problem but like Pbn said if you're nervous maybe just cut back on the intensity a little. They always say if you work out/exercise before you get pregnant and your body is used to it, you can continue to do it during pregnancy.

Girlsway as you know temping for me has been pretty stressful. Can't say if it's worth it or not - it can be helpful in pinpointing O in lots of people but for some it's not really (like me!) If you do temp lots of women do it vaginally as it's suppose to be more accurate and consistent. I'm super squeamish about that so I've just taken it orally!

Mummy sorry that happened to you this summer :( It's so hard right?! Sigh. Hoping we both have sticky beans soon!!

Mommy - those pics I just uploaded aren't showing the line well but my SMU was def a lot darker than the FMU - and it's the darkest line I've seen so far. I remember you saying this is how yours were. That is really weird how there would be a difference between FMU and SMU (about 2.5 hours in bet). I even had a cup of coffee this morning which I'm sure diluted the pee a bit.

[Greydore]

ABC I hope so much that line continues to darken. Can you get into your doctor for a beta?

Edit: just saw you already have thought about this :)

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks Greydore.

Ok one more pic: this is the progression over 24 hours (yes - I have a poas addiction)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171204/30549a27482ccd73f114ad365e8b64f8.jpg

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[Girlswaylondon]

ABC having had a stark white negative on a first response, that is definitely positive! I usually have to really squint to see lines when people post but I can see that!

[Babybeaublue]

ABC the bottom one is a lot easier to see. I had to zoom in on the rest but that one I can see as it is!

[ABC.2606]

The lines are darker IRL - don't know why I can't get a better pic. Nevertheless - I feel a bit better now so I do want to go ahead with betas tomorrow if doc will do it.

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[Babybeaublue]

How long do results take?

[ABC.2606]

If I get a blood draw tomorrow morning I should find out by Wednesday morning and then I'll do a repeat on Thurs and find out Friday maybe. Still waiting for doc to call so we'll see if he's willing though to check them this early.

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[Pbn3]

Abc that looks great progression for 24 hours. Definately think 48 hour betas will help xo

Girlswaylondon I loved temping! I think it's a personality thing though. I always felt more in control than what I would call winging it (relying on opks and cm). I'm also going to disagree that its the least reliable indicator of o (sorry Greydore [emoji173]) I believe the opposite. You can o anywhere from day of to 4 days after a pos opk, you can have a false surge, you can gear up to o (get a pos) and not. Cm can also be a fickle sign, for me and others it can be like clockwork and start turning non fertile day of o and stay that way, but this for me was only confirmed to be happening from temping indicating the change consistently same day as o (sustained rise). In my opinion temping is the most reliable way to tell if and when you have oed. If you are going to try it then definately recommend vaginal temping straight off the bat. Also any long thin necked thermometer is fine but get one that measures to two decimal points. Try and temp same time each morning to within a half hour variance. You should be taking a temp after no less than 4 hours of solid sleep, preferably more of course :) Temp in bed, have the bbt on your bedside table or under pillow etc as you need to move as little as possible prior to taking temp. Use an alcohol swab/wipe to clean the thermometer after each temp. When switching to vaginal temping, I had a few practice goes and that was all it took to get the hang of it. Insert the thermometer alongside you finger up to the middle knuckle to get an idea how far to put thermometer in. You want the tip completely covered bit no need to poke your cervix [emoji6]

Hopefully back to sleep for me. Talk soon ladies [emoji3]

Edited: went back and reread some posts, Greydore sorry you said temping was least reliable 'fertility sign' and yes I've never ever considered temping as a sign, only a confirmation tool [emoji3] Apologies for my early morning brain fuzzines [emoji23]

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[Girlswaylondon]

I’m tempted pbn! I’m a stress head but thinking maybe if itll help me conceive then I should be doing it!
Is Ebay a bad place to buy a thermometer?

[Girlswaylondon]

Ok so I just ordered one! Can’t hurt trying it and seeing how it goes, right?!

should I download fertility friend app? (Sorry major temping noob)

[Babybeaublue]

Yes! Its the easiest to use and interpret x

[Pbn3]

I’m tempted pbn! I’m a stress head but thinking maybe if itll help me conceive then I should be doing it!
Is Ebay a bad place to buy a thermometer?Its not really any help in conceiving girlswaylondon (bar not seeing a sustained spike and therefore can get another attempt in) it's really just a confirmation tool of when o has likely occured, how long after pos opk and from 6dpo onwards *may* start showing a pattern that can indicate a good chance of being pregnant (however I've seen even the most ordinary charts result in a bfp :) )

Not sure I'd recommend it for someone who's a 'stresshead' [emoji6], for me it was always less stressful knowing when I oed as opposed to assuming it was day after pos opk. Plus I like graphs and patterns and knowing when temps were in post o range etc

Why not try it out for a cycle and seehow you go? And yes ebay is perfectly fine for a bbt or amazon if you have it! If you like post a link or screenshot one you're looking at so we can say yay or nea [emoji16]

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[Pbn3]

Gah just seen your update! Yes definately go with ff and once you have post a link to your chart [emoji3] (I posted instructions how to do it in here last night) and which thermometer did you end up ordering? Can you post a pic?

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[mtolbert1]

I’m tempted pbn! I’m a stress head but thinking maybe if itll help me conceive then I should be doing it!
Is Ebay a bad place to buy a thermometer?Girlsway, I'm pretty new at temping too but I really like it. My PCOS was causing me to get positive opk's (on digital & IC) even when the dr confirmed I wasn't ovulating. So for me, temping is the only dependable way for me to tell if I've ovulated or not and when! I still have no idea what I'm looking at or for with my temps [emoji23][emoji23] but Pbn has been so great at chart stalking and helping me understand!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

I think it will be really interesting to know if my “ovulation pains” are actually when I think I ovulate!
I’ll try it out for a month, tbh if it doesn’t help in conceiving and just helps to keep an eye on cycles then there’s nothing to stress about! :D

Here’s a pic!
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[Pbn3]

There you go pbn3! https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1783
Thank you so much for all the help and advice!! Really appreciate it xxx



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[Pbn3]

That bbt looks great girlswaylondon! And agree, if at any time it starts stessing you out simply ditch it!

Mtolbert cannot wait to get stalking this cycle of yours!!! So excited!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Hope you don’t mind having another chart to stalk, pbn lol!

[Babybeaublue]

Ahh! Should have mentioned to make sure it remembers your temp! I got one that you have to check straight away which is useless for dark mornings. My old faithful will tell the last temp taken when you switch it back on again afterwards

[ABC.2606]

BBB - yea mine doesn't remember the temp and it's pretty annoying!!

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[Pbn3]

Hope you don’t mind having another chart to stalk, pbn lol!Not at all girlswaylondon [emoji3] just post me the link when you're all set up!!

BBB has a great point there. My ones always did recall last temp taken when turned on, didn't even think to mention it though.... my phone was always on my bedside table with thermometer and wipe (put there before going to sleep every night) so if it doesn't have that feature then you could always use the light of your phone screen to read the temp if need be. I always put my temp in after it was taken though.

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[Mommy2apples]

Filzma definitely heightened sense of smell.

Aww hugs bbb! It’s going to happen!

ABC! Glad you are going to get betas.


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[ABC.2606]

Ok I believe it now :) :) :) :)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171204/883f89f1d710dce37a5205e250247a3f.jpg

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