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melon
November 3rd, 2011, 11:01 AM
I am looking at this list and wondering what to choose for the 2WW leading up to O.

1. URAL - I dont have access to this and I can't bring myself to make my own
2. ASG
3. ACV
4. COT
5. BSD
6. Gelatin

help? what is the most effective and safest combination among the above?

Flava
November 3rd, 2011, 11:19 AM
I really don't know what is best of this. Different things works for different ppl you know? Like i can tell you oh ural works for my pH so good and you drink it and it does nothing for you.
So you have to pick what you want to try.
Im out of ural now and no time to order it .I hate BSD so not doing it.
Now I have 1 ACV and 1 gelatin with COT a day. I think I do 2 around O that's it.
pH is not proven to help you get a boy anyway. So Im fine with this drinks.
Also Im not using EW anymore I will use preseed this time.
Funny thing is every time I give some drink to DH his pH goes down. So he is not on any drinks now and I will check the pH tonight to see if is back up or not.FX!

gizmo77
November 3rd, 2011, 03:38 PM
i only do bsd. i tried cot couldnt stomach it, plus my potassium thru diet is high enough. i did acv but it made me sick. i may or may not go back to it.
and gelatin dried me up

for me th e least amount of 'non natural things' is best..?

Flava
November 3rd, 2011, 03:47 PM
gizmo -you got sick from COT too or just the ACV? I mix the COT in juice it don't really have a taste. And only drink 1 tbs ACV in a little water and juice right after it.
But see I hate the BSD lol.

TTC5
November 3rd, 2011, 05:00 PM
Ural is the best if you can get some?

TTC5
November 3rd, 2011, 05:01 PM
Oh and gelatine is not for pH it is for testosterone but many find it is drying us up!

love being a mummy
November 3rd, 2011, 10:29 PM
I am looking at this list and wondering what to choose for the 2WW leading up to O.

1. URAL - I dont have access to this and I can't bring myself to make my own
2. ASG
3. ACV
4. COT
5. BSD
6. Gelatin

help? what is the most effective and safest combination among the above?

Good question, thanks for asking I'll be in the AF-O area very soon.

I don't know what all those drinks are. I do know BSD tried it once and hated it. yuck !

love being a mummy
November 3rd, 2011, 10:31 PM
Ural is the best if you can get some?

I will get some ural

TTC5
November 3rd, 2011, 11:19 PM
Just remember if you do take ural do not take any other bs drinks.

love being a mummy
November 3rd, 2011, 11:39 PM
What about BS baths and BSF

TTC5
November 4th, 2011, 01:08 AM
They are fine but they go toward your total amount so if you do a bsb or a bsf count it as if you have had a drink of ural. That is how I keep track. My ural packet says every 4x a day so no more than 4 of any bs "thing" a day. That is what I do anyway. Too much baking soda can be very dangerous!!

love being a mummy
November 4th, 2011, 03:42 AM
Thanks. Hopefully the ural will work and I won't have to use any BS

TTC5
November 4th, 2011, 03:44 AM
I use ural and helps me :)

love being a mummy
November 4th, 2011, 03:45 AM
So it's 4x a day

TTC5
November 4th, 2011, 03:48 AM
The week leading up to O I take 3 a day. Morning Afternoon and Night. I also do a BSV HAHA
Day of O I will have ural as per the box :)

TTC5
November 4th, 2011, 03:49 AM
You don't want to take it for too long a time!

love being a mummy
November 4th, 2011, 03:50 AM
ok so I shouldn't start it now then.
Still waiting for AF to start. Due in about a week.

TTC5
November 4th, 2011, 03:51 AM
I wouldn't, no.

atomic sagebrush
November 6th, 2011, 12:10 PM
I am looking at this list and wondering what to choose for the 2WW leading up to O.

1. URAL - I dont have access to this and I can't bring myself to make my own
2. ASG
3. ACV
4. COT
5. BSD
6. Gelatin

help? what is the most effective and safest combination among the above?

My ~personal~ preference is for people to do JUST lemon water and/or ACV, and gelatin for testosterone. I feel these drinks are safest for overall health. I also strongly prefer that you get your potassium via diet rather than COT/ASG/Ural because this is much safer.

Some other drinks that are very safe and blue friendly are: Fruit juice/V8 juice mixed with Brewer's Yeast, wheatgrass juice, green tea in moderation, and my personal fave coconut water which has a ton of potassium in a form your body can easily use and is not dangerous in any way.

To answer your specific q, Ural is "best" because it is basically a combo of BSD and COT plus citric acid. ASG is second best because it's BSD and COT combined. so if you can't get ural, then do ASG and lemon water.

I ~personally~ don't like people doing COT (or Ural and ASG either) because it is potassium, and it's not a good idea to start and stop potassium and you can't do COT/ASG during the 2WW. Too much potassium (via supplementation) is seriously dangerous for your health, so when your body perceives that there is too much potassium coming in, it starts to excrete a lot more potassium, and then when you stop suddenly cold turkey as people do during the 2WW, your body is still excreting more potassium which can kill ya even quicker than too much potassium can. As in, "suddenly drop dead" kind of kill you. Obviously, people are doing it and tolerating it ok but there is always the chance that you will be the one person who cannot tolerate it. Plus, high sodium makes you excrete even more potassium and since most people keep up with the sodium levels at least somewhat during the 2WW, to me this on again, off again potassium stuff is like playing with fire. We haven't been burned YET that we know of anyway, but it's only a matter of time before someone gets very sick or dies from this.

Potassium is not hard to get via diet, it's in virtually everything and it is perfectly safe when eaten through food form, so just the addition of a coconut water a day will do a lot towards getting you towards a goal of increased potassium intake. A coconut water and a banana is already almost 1000 mg of potassium right there in addition to all the other nutrients they contain, in a safe form that you can continue throughout the 2WW and pregnancy!!

atomic sagebrush
November 6th, 2011, 12:16 PM
What about BS baths and BSF

You can, but you need to add up all the BS sources because you can absorb it through your skin, esp. thru the thinner vaginal tissues. Directions are in this essay http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1444-Baking-Soda-basics

atomic sagebrush
November 6th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Also for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here is the link where I discuss the various forms of boy beverages http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1515-Boy-friendly-beverages

And brewer's yeast I mentioned above http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1513-Yeast

And the wheatgrass thread http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1800-wheatgrass-juice

atomic sagebrush
November 6th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Also ladies just a reminder that when you do any of these drinks (even the safe ones like green tea) or even are just eating more sodium, you MUST take 2000 mcg (that's micrograms, not milligrams) of folic acid every day without fail.

love being a mummy
November 6th, 2011, 07:14 PM
You can, but you need to add up all the BS sources because you can absorb it through your skin, esp. thru the thinner vaginal tissues. Directions are in this essay http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1444-Baking-Soda-basics
Thanks.


you MUST take 2000 mcg (that's micrograms, not milligrams) of folic acid every day without fail.
I got ural the other day and folic acid 500mcg.
When should I start the FA and ural.
AF is due 12th Nov, attempting my sway next cycle.

melon
November 6th, 2011, 07:26 PM
My ~personal~ preference is for people to do JUST lemon water and/or ACV, and gelatin for testosterone. I feel these drinks are safest for overall health. I also strongly prefer that you get your potassium via diet rather than COT/ASG/Ural because this is much safer.

Some other drinks that are very safe and blue friendly are: Fruit juice/V8 juice mixed with Brewer's Yeast, wheatgrass juice, green tea in moderation, and my personal fave coconut water which has a ton of potassium in a form your body can easily use and is not dangerous in any way.

To answer your specific q, Ural is "best" because it is basically a combo of BSD and COT plus citric acid. ASG is second best because it's BSD and COT combined. so if you can't get ural, then do ASG and lemon water.

I ~personally~ don't like people doing COT (or Ural and ASG either) because it is potassium, and it's not a good idea to start and stop potassium and you can't do COT/ASG during the 2WW. Too much potassium (via supplementation) is seriously dangerous for your health, so when your body perceives that there is too much potassium coming in, it starts to excrete a lot more potassium, and then when you stop suddenly cold turkey as people do during the 2WW, your body is still excreting more potassium which can kill ya even quicker than too much potassium can. As in, "suddenly drop dead" kind of kill you. Obviously, people are doing it and tolerating it ok but there is always the chance that you will be the one person who cannot tolerate it. Plus, high sodium makes you excrete even more potassium and since most people keep up with the sodium levels at least somewhat during the 2WW, to me this on again, off again potassium stuff is like playing with fire. We haven't been burned YET that we know of anyway, but it's only a matter of time before someone gets very sick or dies from this.

Potassium is not hard to get via diet, it's in virtually everything and it is perfectly safe when eaten through food form, so just the addition of a coconut water a day will do a lot towards getting you towards a goal of increased potassium intake. A coconut water and a banana is already almost 1000 mg of potassium right there in addition to all the other nutrients they contain, in a safe form that you can continue throughout the 2WW and pregnancy!!

I am taking 99mg of potassium in supplement form.. is this amount OK? It says only 3% of DV.... i worry about overdosing every time I take it.. not sure if it is really worth the health risk.

melon
November 6th, 2011, 07:36 PM
What is brewers yeast? I have heard it on the site but don't know what it is? Is it in baking section? how is it normally used?

How about ACV? is that safe?

Cinss
November 6th, 2011, 08:02 PM
Dreamblue - Brewers yeast comes in a powder or tablet form, you buy it at health food stores. Don't mistake it for bakers yeast found in the supermarket. People take it for its health benifits, its loaded with vitimins. You should google it. I am definatly taking it for my blue sway.

melon
November 7th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Dreamblue - Brewers yeast comes in a powder or tablet form, you buy it at health food stores. Don't mistake it for bakers yeast found in the supermarket. People take it for its health benifits, its loaded with vitimins. You should google it. I am definatly taking it for my blue sway.

thanks cinss...i will look for it.

melon
November 8th, 2011, 12:02 AM
So i went into wholefoods today looking for BY. The guy in the health and beauty section helped me to find powder tin and asked me if I am a vegetarian. He made me sound strange to be asking for this as I am neither a vegetarian nor a vegan. Anyways he presented an alternative and most effective way to get b-complex through a liquid supplement. He said i would have to eat a ton of BY to get the same amount of vitamins in that bottle. Needless to say I left the store quite confused but still managed to get out with a can of BY powder. It is darn expensive so I am trying to use in AF-O.... is there any benefit to use prior to that?

My question would be what is the purpose of BY in swaying? Is the goal to get more potassium or b-complex vitamins or are they by any chance same?

atomic sagebrush
November 10th, 2011, 07:12 PM
I am taking 99mg of potassium in supplement form.. is this amount OK? It says only 3% of DV.... i worry about overdosing every time I take it.. not sure if it is really worth the health risk.

it should be ok if you are taking just one a day. Some people think that more is better, but you should stick to just one!!!

atomic sagebrush
November 10th, 2011, 07:23 PM
So i went into wholefoods today looking for BY. The guy in the health and beauty section helped me to find powder tin and asked me if I am a vegetarian. He made me sound strange to be asking for this as I am neither a vegetarian nor a vegan. Anyways he presented an alternative and most effective way to get b-complex through a liquid supplement. He said i would have to eat a ton of BY to get the same amount of vitamins in that bottle. Needless to say I left the store quite confused but still managed to get out with a can of BY powder. It is darn expensive so I am trying to use in AF-O.... is there any benefit to use prior to that?

My question would be what is the purpose of BY in swaying? Is the goal to get more potassium or b-complex vitamins or are they by any chance same?

He probably invented the B-supplements or his boss told him to get rid of it because it was about to expire LOL.

It is neither strange or unusual to take brewer's yeast, people do it all the time because the nutrients are easily absorbed. There are a LOT of other nutrients in the BY besides the B vitamins and more is not always better where vitamins are concerned - the B vitamins in particular can make you feel quite sh---ty when you take them in high doses and you just pee most of them out anyway. You are WAY better off with the brewer's yeast.

Rather than taking it from AF-O only, how about you use it every 2 days rather than every day, so 2-3 times a week? That way you'll get the nutrients regularly, the can will last you longer, and you won't be starting and stopping the yeast so suddenly like that. Sometimes your body gets used to nutrients at a certain level and so whenever you start and stop vitamins, it can be dangerous to your health and also to an unborn baby.

The purpose of the BY is just another source of nutrients and amino acids for your body to use to manufacture muscle and raise testosterone with, and they are in a form that is very easy for your body to use.

B vitamins and potassium are not the same thing, they're different things that your body needs to function and be healthy. The idea is that nutrients across the boards are good for TTC a boy baby because boys need more nutrients, calories, protein, and fat from pretty much the moment of conception and in fact all through life. When your body "thinks" you can support a boy pregnancy and have a lot of healthy nutritious foods to feed a little boy, it tries to conceive one. Baby girls need less nutrients from pretty much the moment of conception so if your body "thinks" times are hard and resources are scarce, you are more likely to conceive a baby girl.

atomic sagebrush
November 10th, 2011, 07:27 PM
What is brewers yeast? I have heard it on the site but don't know what it is? Is it in baking section? how is it normally used?

How about ACV? is that safe?

In our local store, they sell brewer's yeast packets in the vitamin section. Might be better than the health food store where they drive you crazy trying to sell you on stuff you don't even want.

ACV is believed to be safe altho a couple people have had stomach issues after drinking it. ACV is supposed to make you really alkaline, and may aid in vitamin absorption by helping with digestion. If lemon water works for you to raise your pH, you don't NEED to do the ACV, they accomplish much the same thing.