Heavy drinker/being drunk during conception sways pink?

[KnockYourBallsOff]

Updated 12-8-17

Note from atomic - in the years since this thread was posted, we have gotten GREAT results with alcohol for pink sways (including both me and the original poster KnockYourBallsOff getting girls while tippling) I can say pretty emphatically that as it sits now, this is a tactic that is working for people and please do not be put off by rumors on other sites about "estrogen" or "minerals" or "pH" - all those things are just theories and guesswork. Where the rubber hits the road, alcohol seems to be helping to sway, even though we don't yet know how or why it works. Please consider adding moderate alcohol intake 1-3 drinks per night, 3-7 days a week as part of your sway!!
I have a more in depth essay on the subject here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/56791-vices-swaying.html


I was talking to 2 girlfriends that recently just both had their 3rd girls....they said they knew exactly when they conceived and it was when they were both drunk.

I also noticed DoulaMama said she and DH were drinking the night they conceived her u/s pics she jsut posted are for sure girly.

Anyone else have girls who are regular drinkers? I know it 'technically' sways blue, but I can't help but notice these trends and file them away for my future sway :)

[TTC5]

Us lol, definate 2 out of the 4, and quite possibly the other two aswell.. gosh that sounds awful huh!!!!

[love being a mummy]

We do drink aswell but we are not heavy drinkers, don't drink enough to get drunk.
Actually got my boy on the night we had a big drink.

[TTC5]

Well there ya go ;)

[KnockYourBallsOff]

Dh and I NEVER drink. Looks like I'm gonna stock up on some booze ;))

[DoulaMama]

This would def. be the only time we conceived with a bunch of alcohol in DH's system:) Although, we had our "big night" the day before our romp. He was so totally wasted we couldn't have done anything even if we had wanted to!!! So we DTD on Friday after maybe a week abstinence. We then got silly on Sat. and DTD Sunday night. I didn't ovulate until Wed. night. Not sure if the drinking did anything...but who knows!!! xoxo Good Luck!!!

[KnockYourBallsOff]

OMGOSH! DoulaMama!!!! Wouldn't it be hilarious if all this swaying business could be thrown out and all we really needed to do was get intoxicated?! LOL! I'm implementing it in my sway....if anything it may reduce my stress from swaying and lower T levels :)

[DoulaMama]

Sounds like an awesome plan!!! Plus, sex will be WAY more fun!!! ;)

[Daisy Mae]

My grandmother was a HUGE drinker... actually ended up in rehab. And she had 3 daughters and no sons.

[Hobbermittens]

Interesting! One of my friends conceived a girl while she and her DH were both drunk (forgot to use birth control! oops!).

[zanacal]

I'm pretty sure at least one of my boys would have been conceived after we'd been drinking - DH and I have always enjoyed a tipple or two! I did buy a bottle of Vodka when I started my girl sway (doesn't have the nutrients and calories of wine!) but I haven't drunk spirits in years and I couldn't face it! DH did continue to drink during our sway though.

[KnockYourBallsOff]

I saw a bottle of wine at Wal Mart today called "seven daughters".....THAT'S the one we'll be using ;) LOL!

And LOL to the poster who said grandma ended up in rehab with 3 daughters...sad...but made the LMAO!!!! HA! I may end up in a straight jacket from swaying!

[Chicky]

...I can't help but notice these trends and file them away for my future sway :)
I had the exact same thoughts. I want to add a couple vodka and cranberry drinks to my attempt but I'm too scared! I know a girl who has 4 girls and 1 boy and she was drinking every time she got pg. I also noticed a lot of young moms (teens) tend to have girls and some I know were after a night of partying.

[Daisy Mae]

I saw a bottle of wine at Wal Mart today called "seven daughters".....THAT'S the one we'll be using ;) LOL!

And LOL to the poster who said grandma ended up in rehab with 3 daughters...sad...but made the LMAO!!!! HA! I may end up in a straight jacket from swaying!

OMG, that wine would be perfect!

Yeah, it is crazy about my grandmother. My mom and I always used to wonder what made her have 3 girls! Her favorite drinks were martinis or sherry. Maybe that's the secret? :) She drank and smoked throughout all her pregnancies. Awful, I know, but they didn't worry about that back then. My grandmother tells the story about her friend who had too many creme de mint drinks the night before her son was born... that they kidded the mother that her son was going to come out with a green tint to his skin!

[LolaInLove]

I am pretty sure that both of my girls were conceived on nights we had a few drinks, and I know my ex-dh was having "special cigarettes" also.

[Out of the Blue]

OMG…this is so funny and strange…DH isn't a heavy drinker but add me to the list of “DH was drunk and we went on to conceive a girl”…DH had about 4 beers in him from a company party when we DTD. I O’d 7 days later and that BFP was a girl. After reading through all the responses, it sure can’t hurt if we break out the booze when it’s TTC again. Night after night of BD can get pretty tedious…


I saw a bottle of wine at Wal Mart today called "seven daughters".....THAT'S the one we'll be using ;) LOL!
I’m totally buying that, KYBO!!!:agree::beer::pinksperm::cool:

[purplepoet20]

I think I need to push drinks on hubby... we had a beer once in a great while but not drunk. During the times hubby got giggly drunk we never did anything. Maybe being drunk affects hubbies excitement and keeps testoserone low?

What drinks sway blue and what sways pink? There has to be a difference. My neighbor who has made beer for years has 2 girls but he makes a high achool level beer. My dad who had 4g drank cheap beers and smoked anything that rolled up. And it seems the people I know with a lot of girls drink more then one daily.

I need to figure this out since I have to change a lot in my sway... I would love to drink Tequila and Vodka again but would it sway pink. What to drink!!!

[DoulaMama]

Well....I had gin and tonic that night but I'm also a very cheap drunk! 2 small glasses later and I was telling party guests things they should never know!!!! :rofl: My hubby on the other hand had beer and Crown Royal(Rye I believe). He was drinking it straight out of the bottle!!! I've never seen him so blasted in all the years we've been together! He's a beer a day kind of guy:) Some days he just has a pepsi, others he has a pepsi and rum. I actually told him to drink one a day 2 months before we started trying...he didn't complain... LOL! Although he now has a belly to match the 17w one I have;)

[KnockYourBallsOff]

LOL!!!! Loving this!

I just hope I'm not too tipsy to get up and jump and dump and insert my rephresh!!! That would be a youtube vid. to end all youtube videos.....I'm sure I'll pass out and wake up to a Rephresh tube in my ear and semen everywhere! LOL!!! (sorry if that is TMI)

[DoulaMama]

LOL!!!! Loving this!

I just hope I'm not too tipsy to get up and jump and dump and insert my rephresh!!! That would be a youtube vid. to end all youtube videos.....I'm sure I'll pass out and wake up to a Rephresh tube in my ear and semen everywhere! LOL!!! (sorry if that is TMI)
Better in your ear than in your rear;) :rofl:

Oh and this bean was a jump and dump baby but no lube, or douche, or rephresh... Nada!

[zanacal]

I'm cracking up at the last 2 posts!!!

Purple - yes, the hard stuff like vodka is good for pink - no nutrients and less calories.

[KnockYourBallsOff]

LMAO!!! Doula...I was gonna say 'ass'...but didn't want to offend ;) LOL!!!! I think it's funny how UN lady like we all become to conceive a little LADY!

[KnockYourBallsOff]

OOHH...another thought. IF you get so drunk and DTD and then wake up with a bad hangover, vomitting, and can't eat...that kinda sounds like it would further sway pink b/c you would deplete your body of nutrients while conception is occuring? Long shot....but I'm trying to gain something scientific from all this ;)

[DoulaMama]

I would say that could help!

Oh and I won't lie...I've never been lady like... ;) It's the reason my husband married me! LOL! I can camp for 10 days without a shower...have a potty mouth...am quite crude when I want to be...OMG. I'm going to ruin a girl...

[LolaInLove]

Nope, DM, you are going to make your little girl be super kick ass!!!

This thread is indeed hilarious.....one of my conceptions was a super drunk night (Valentines Day) where we left candles burning all night and woke up to wax covering everything and music still on, clothes strewn about the floor, lube all over the place, LOL. So I guess despite our debauchery, the bean managed to make it through.

[purplepoet20]

So this post went way in the deep end! I think someone has been drinking already ;)

DM - You will just raise your girl to be a good match for a man like her daddy!

I called hubby and gave him a list of things to buy on the way home... I had to explain but he is all for it!

[queen-of-harts]

My dh never drank beer at all with our first 4 boys and then he started drinking about a 12 pack a week when i was ttc ds5 and about a 30 pack a week with ds6 and none of this made a difference in gender outcome for us but I myself have never drank at all so i think i will be taking up a bit of booze for my sway.

[Zivic-Bubac]

Dh and I NEVER drink. Looks like I'm gonna stock up on some booze ;))

Same here. I was never drunk in my entire life, I can't stand the smell & taste of booze of any kind.

[DoulaMama]

Awww...Lola and Purple! That's sweet! Although I am a teensy bit worried....I just overheard my 3.5yo trying to get his dresser drawer open and he screamed at me, "MOM! This bloody drawer won't open!".....:worry:

[DoulaMama]

My dh never drank beer at all with our first 4 boys and then he started drinking about a 12 pack a week when i was ttc ds5 and about a 30 pack a week with ds6 and none of this made a difference in gender outcome for us but I myself have never drank at all so i think i will be taking up a bit of booze for my sway.

You never know! It might help T levels... :)

[Out of the Blue]

Same here. I was never drunk in my entire life, I can't stand the smell & taste of booze of any kind.

Zivic, you should try a Rum drink! It's really good in just about anything sweet!

[queen-of-harts]

wasnt Vodka suppose to be the best one for pink?

[atomic sagebrush]

I saw a bottle of wine at Wal Mart today called "seven daughters".....THAT'S the one we'll be using ;) LOL!

And LOL to the poster who said grandma ended up in rehab with 3 daughters...sad...but made the LMAO!!!! HA! I may end up in a straight jacket from swaying!

NICE! I love it!

I know at least one of my IG friends had been drinking when she conceived her little girl and OMG that is the cutest kid.

I think it's prob. like everything - in moderation, may sway a little blue, in excess, may sway a little pink, with some exceptions on both sides of the aisle.

[atomic sagebrush]

wasnt Vodka suppose to be the best one for pink?

Yes, and I believe it is right in minerals and/or alkalinity as opposed to wine and beer.

Vodka also has a lack of nutrients compared to wine and beer.

[atomic sagebrush]

OMG…this is so funny and strange…DH isn't a heavy drinker but add me to the list of “DH was drunk and we went on to conceive a girl”…DH had about 4 beers in him from a company party when we DTD. I O’d 7 days later and that BFP was a girl. After reading through all the responses, it sure can’t hurt if we break out the booze when it’s TTC again. Night after night of BD can get pretty tedious…


I’m totally buying that, KYBO!!!:agree::beer::pinksperm::cool:

The frustrating thing is that my DH is actually a fairly big drinker but laid off both times when we conceived DS 3 and 4.

THEN he started smoking a pipe...AFTER DS 4 was born. It's like, why can't you have any of these vices when they will work for me!?!

[atomic sagebrush]

I think I need to push drinks on hubby... we had a beer once in a great while but not drunk. During the times hubby got giggly drunk we never did anything. Maybe being drunk affects hubbies excitement and keeps testoserone low?

What drinks sway blue and what sways pink? There has to be a difference. My neighbor who has made beer for years has 2 girls but he makes a high achool level beer. My dad who had 4g drank cheap beers and smoked anything that rolled up. And it seems the people I know with a lot of girls drink more then one daily.

I need to figure this out since I have to change a lot in my sway... I would love to drink Tequila and Vodka again but would it sway pink. What to drink!!!

If there is anything to the fertility idea, if you drink enough to lower your fertility, it would sway pink.

Drinking and girls is a little confuddled tho for exactly the reason you say...I notice that a lot of drinkers tend to be smokers (including my friend I mentioned before who was trying to quit to conceive a boy) and we KNOW that smoking does sway pink, even if it's just a little.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and I was just reading a book about foods around the world and I guess that koumiss, which is fermented mare's milk wine, is the national drink of Mongolia and has been for thousands of years. Yet Genghis Khan (one of 6 b 1 g), his brothers, and their many, many sons (Genghis had 4 sons with his first wife and God only knows how many more) have had so many male offspring that in the noble words of Wikipedia...

"Zerjal et al. [2003][54] identified a Y-chromosomal lineage present in about 8% of the men in a large region of Asia (about 0.5% of the world total). The paper suggests that the pattern of variation within the lineage is consistent with a hypothesis that it originated in Mongolia about 1,000 years ago. Because the rate of such a spread would be too rapid to have occurred by genetic drift, the authors propose that the lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and that it has spread through social selection. In Mongolia alone as many as 200,000 of the country's 2 million people could be Khan descendants.[8] In addition to most of the Mongol nobility up to the 20th century, the Mughal emperor Babur's mother was a descendant. Timur (also known as Tamerlane), the 14th century military leader, claimed descent from Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan was one of the most powerful warlords during his reign, as a result the harem that he kept was of enormous size. It is said that his harem reached anywhere from 2,000–3,000 women.[who?] There are so many descendants of Khan not only because of the size of his harem but also because of the size of his sons' harems."

According to swaying lore they should have been having virtually all daughters...milk AND booze, together at last!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

LOL!!!! Loving this!

I just hope I'm not too tipsy to get up and jump and dump and insert my rephresh!!! That would be a youtube vid. to end all youtube videos.....I'm sure I'll pass out and wake up to a Rephresh tube in my ear and semen everywhere! LOL!!! (sorry if that is TMI):bowdown::highfive::rofl:

I think I may have injured myself just now...

[queen-of-harts]

a friend of mine smokes special cigarettes and her husband does not,they had 3 girls and then when she quit bc she wanted to start a new job that did random drug testing she get pregnant with a boy.I always thought smoking effected the sperm count but the woman? Maybe it makes the egg tougher to penetrat? could it effect ph? She has since started smoking again and is due with a girl.

[angel-pink]

how many woman have been drink and "o'd" you know the big scream cause i'm usually on the verge of passing out so can't be asseed to dtd and i dont drink and have boys and dh gave up drink to have the boys maybe thats where we go wrong

[atomic sagebrush]

a friend of mine smokes special cigarettes and her husband does not,they had 3 girls and then when she quit bc she wanted to start a new job that did random drug testing she get pregnant with a boy.I always thought smoking effected the sperm count but the woman? Maybe it makes the egg tougher to penetrat? could it effect ph? She has since started smoking again and is due with a girl.

I personally think smoking sways pink for the woman too. May lower testosterone, dry up CM, any one of a number of htings.

[pinkdreams]

Just got a text from a friend who just found out she is having a girl after 2 boys. She was convinced she would only have boys because her whole husbands family has only had boys for generations. She was on vacation and drunk a good majority of the trip, gin & tonics and sangria! It was a surprise. Her lifestyle is very boy friendly in every other regard. I am totally getting the cocktails on with dh for our next attempt! I never drank with the boys and didn't let dh either, so what the heck, it's worth a shot!

[auroara78]

My husband is a drinker (has his Miller Lite almost nightly) but sometimes he gets frustrated wtih how beer is ruining his physique (He used to be a Marine) and he quits for a while. Well, both times he "quit" for a few weeks we ended accidently pregnant with our sons! I never drink, so I'm thinking maybe I'll have a mixed drink, maybe a cranberry and vodka to relax me out because swaying is STRESSFUL!! Maybe lower T levels, and maybe I'll make sure he's having some too, just cuz we both were completely sober when we concieved our boys....

on a side note, my best frined growing up became a very wild teenager, had a girl at 19, she claims its because her and BF (now he's her DH) were smoking lots of (*insert iillegal substance here*) and drinking lots (beer/ or hard liquor, whatever was around). Two years later, she had another daughter, and while they had stopped smoking, they were still drinking, and I'm pretty sure that her two girls were NOT concieved just from one shot times only. My old friend and her hubbs are crazy about DTD...currently her girls are approx. 10 and 8 and her facebook page isn't full of pics of her kids, but full of pics of her husband's abs, his body, them together, snuggling up, them in a hot tubs, etc...I can only imagine what they are doing, lol....

I also know a few women at my old job that went club hopping, got drunk, got pregnant, and had girls :)

[Out of the Blue]

Oh and I was just reading a book about foods around the world and I guess that koumiss, which is fermented mare's milk wine, is the national drink of Mongolia and has been for thousands of years. Yet Genghis Khan (one of 6 b 1 g), his brothers, and their many, many sons (Genghis had 4 sons with his first wife and God only knows how many more) have had so many male offspring that in the noble words of Wikipedia...

"Zerjal et al. [2003][54] identified a Y-chromosomal lineage present in about 8% of the men in a large region of Asia (about 0.5% of the world total). The paper suggests that the pattern of variation within the lineage is consistent with a hypothesis that it originated in Mongolia about 1,000 years ago. Because the rate of such a spread would be too rapid to have occurred by genetic drift, the authors propose that the lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and that it has spread through social selection. In Mongolia alone as many as 200,000 of the country's 2 million people could be Khan descendants.[8] In addition to most of the Mongol nobility up to the 20th century, the Mughal emperor Babur's mother was a descendant. Timur (also known as Tamerlane), the 14th century military leader, claimed descent from Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan was one of the most powerful warlords during his reign, as a result the harem that he kept was of enormous size. It is said that his harem reached anywhere from 2,000–3,000 women.[who?] There are so many descendants of Khan not only because of the size of his harem but also because of the size of his sons' harems."

According to swaying lore they should have been having virtually all daughters...milk AND booze, together at last!!!

Oh, how I love when you post this kind of stuff!!! :agree: And, "Milk AND booze, together at last!!!"... :rofl:

[skrimpy]

That's really interesting about the Mongols... Maybe it's b/c the fermented milk ended up being super-nutritious :)

Dd1's conception involved a lot of alcohol. I was 't drinking with Honor... DH goes through kicks of having red wine with dinner but I don't remember if he'd had any before we conceived Honor.

So interesting to think of what may influence gender...

[atomic sagebrush]

That's really interesting about the Mongols... Maybe it's b/c the fermented milk ended up being super-nutritious :)

Dd1's conception involved a lot of alcohol. I was 't drinking with Honor... DH goes through kicks of having red wine with dinner but I don't remember if he'd had any before we conceived Honor.

So interesting to think of what may influence gender...

I agree! Back then, of course, there was no way to make skim milk, it was all the full-fat variety!

[atomic sagebrush]

auroara, thanks for sharing! thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, this is a pretty helpful thread!


Oh, how I love when you post this kind of stuff!!! :agree: And, "Milk AND booze, together at last!!!"... :rofl:

:) it's amazing how good a mood 3 days without DH can put ya in!

[lemon2012]

DS 2 was an drunken oops....!
It was a long weekend. Oh well, I would still try it:) lol

[amari]

Hi! I'm new here and have been wondering this for ttc a girl! I think I might try it just even to help relax me! I was especially wondering it with regards to the "special" cigarettes. Is there any research on this?

[lena]

DH is a drinker he has beer every night. I don't drink at all and we have 2 boys. Hopefully baking a girl now.

[angel-pink]

I had a phychic reading and she actually told me to drink i've never drank to concieve but hey hoo i'll give in a blast infact i've cracked the vodka lmao

[our3sons]

Better in your ear than in your rear;) :rofl:

Oh and this bean was a jump and dump baby but no lube, or douche, or rephresh... Nada!

LOL omg... so funny! I am laughing hysterically over here!

[our3sons]

Awww...Lola and Purple! That's sweet! Although I am a teensy bit worried....I just overheard my 3.5yo trying to get his dresser drawer open and he screamed at me, "MOM! This bloody drawer won't open!".....:worry:

ohhh geez, my 3.5 yo and my 5 yo were watching tv tonight and I was in another room and I overheard my 3.5 you say "what da hell was dat?" I was like yep, mama needs to watch her mouth!

[our3sons]

just wanted to share that 2 of my 3 DS were both conceived when there was lots of alcohol involved by both my DH and me..

I do have a question about smoking though.. How long should you be smoking before your attempt in order to sway girl? I have been thinking about buying some... That's so bad, I know! But I am desperate!

[DoulaMama]

just wanted to share that 2 of my 3 DS were both conceived when there was lots of alcohol involved by both my DH and me..

I do have a question about smoking though.. How long should you be smoking before your attempt in order to sway girl? I have been thinking about buying some... That's so bad, I know! But I am desperate!Don't do that!!!! Atomic would have a fit!!!! LOL!!!

[our3sons]

Don't do that!!!! Atomic would have a fit!!!! LOL!!!

lol I don't know that I would REALLY do it because I was a smoker when I got pregnant with DS1 and my hubby was a smoker when we conceived all 3 boys... so I guess I don't really believe it sways all that much..

[love being a mummy]

just wanted to share that 2 of my 3 DS were both conceived when there was lots of alcohol involved by both my DH and me..

I do have a question about smoking though.. How long should you be smoking before your attempt in order to sway girl? I have been thinking about buying some... That's so bad, I know! But I am desperate!
no no no don't do that.
smoking is not a guarantee for a girl.
My friend and her DH both smoke and they have 3 boys.

[PeonyPrincess]

I was not drinking at all when I conceived DS1 because we were TTC and I was being good. With DS2, DH and I had a party that turned into a big night for everyone including us. We didn't even remember DTD. Luckily for me DS2 looks just like DH. Phew! Neither of us smoke, but you would never see me doing that no matter how much it might sway. Yuck.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all just read this thread its so funny i swear i peed a little lol, so just wondered does vodka sway girl or is it just because its less nutrients in it ?

[queen-of-harts]

hi all just read this thread its so funny i swear i peed a little lol, so just wondered does vodka sway girl or is it just because its less nutrients in it ?

It has no real nutrients like wine and beer have.

[love being a mummy]

I used to drink Southern Comfort and coke zero.
I have switched to Midori and lemonade.
Also have a few Midori illusions, which has pineapple and lemon juice in it.

[queen-of-harts]

Anything to take into consideration is there could be a difference between someone who drank on the night they got pregnant compared to someone who frequently drinks booze you know? Its like having a salad the night you concieved when for the last year you ate a cheeseburger lol

[love being a mummy]

Anything to take into consideration is there could be a difference between someone who drank on the night they got pregnant compared to someone who frequently drinks booze you know? Its like having a salad the night you concieved when for the last year you ate a cheeseburger lol
Very good point.

[queen-of-harts]

Anything to take into consideration is there could be a difference between someone who drank on the night they got pregnant compared to someone who frequently drinks booze you know? Its like having a salad the night you concieved when for the last year you ate a cheeseburger lol

That was suppose to say "Another thing" lol

[dramabird]

Queen-of-harts' comment is similar to a question I wanted to ask: If we're thinking that some imbibing can sway pink, are we thinking we should have a drink or two the night of DTD? Or would it be more like once a night from AF-O?

[Lilian78]

If there's any chance it sways girl I'll be drinking :D. I'm thinking a little relaxation couldn't hurt for the high strung types like me ...

[amari]

Dramabird-I was wondering the same thing! Hmmm??

[Yuzu]

Hmmm...I can drink lots of beer without getting drunk, but I've never had any other type of alcoholic drink except for a daquiri. Maybe I'll try a vodka sort of drink. I don't want to get sick though.

Oh, I forgot I've had a Long Island Iced Tea and a Bloody Mary before!

[queen-of-harts]

Queen-of-harts' comment is similar to a question I wanted to ask: If we're thinking that some imbibing can sway pink, are we thinking we should have a drink or two the night of DTD? Or would it be more like once a night from AF-O?

Im thinking of having one drink a week 3 months before i sway then two a week 2 months before my sway and then one month before i sway I will have a daily drink even if its small all the way up until i O.

[pinkdreams]

I have been having a gin & tonic (or 2 ;) ) every night from AF to O, not because I want to of course, only for my sway ;) hoping 3rd time is a charm because after this cycle we will be moving across the world and life will be a bit hectic for a while.

[DoulaMama]

Hmmm...I can drink lots of beer without getting drunk, but I've never had any other type of alcoholic drink except for a daquiri. Maybe I'll try a vodka sort of drink. I don't want to get sick though.

Oh, I forgot I've had a Long Island Iced Tea and a Bloody Mary before!

Make yourself a paralyzer.....omg....so good! Just don't tell me you had one... I'll be green with jealousy!!!

[amari]

Pinkdreams-I just noticed where you currently live, I have friends who live there now!

Doulamama-You find out so soon! How exciting!!

[DoulaMama]

Pinkdreams-I just noticed where you currently live, I have friends who live there now!

Doulamama-You find out so soon! How exciting!!

I should be excited but instead I'm slightly terrified!! The next few days are going to DRAG by.....

[pinkdreams]

It's a very nice place to live but I am more than ready to get back to the united states! It's been a long 4 years :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Anything to take into consideration is there could be a difference between someone who drank on the night they got pregnant compared to someone who frequently drinks booze you know? Its like having a salad the night you concieved when for the last year you ate a cheeseburger lol

Excellent point!

[atomic sagebrush]

Queen-of-harts' comment is similar to a question I wanted to ask: If we're thinking that some imbibing can sway pink, are we thinking we should have a drink or two the night of DTD? Or would it be more like once a night from AF-O?

My suspicion would be that AF-O would prob. be more effective BUT I'm a hair concerned about egg health...I think that to balance benefits vs. risk, it might be best to keep the drinking to the few days right before O>

[ElizaB]

I wonder about Champagne...

[atomic sagebrush]

I know that strictly speaking, champagne would not be allowed on the IG-Style diet because it's made of grapes.

It IS allowed in the LE diet as long as you take the calories into account.

[drowning in boys]

i know this is a bit old, but just to add my experience.. with my first son we partied everyday like rockstars and drank alot (had ZERO plans for conception, BC failed lol)... when it came time to get preggo for our next baby, we figured hmm welp staying drunk for 2 mos works! and bam, another DS :/ so i would have to say that i would NOT recommend drinking as a way to have a girl.. just as a way to get preggo in general :) best of luck!!

[Irishmom]

This thread is hilarious lol. Very interesting as i would not be a big drinker,probably only 2-3 times a year.My tipple is vodka and coke so i'm smiling ear to ear after reading this. Maybe i should just drink a few before O to make me relaxed.Dh drinks a few beers every night and always has, so maybe it is more effective if dw drinks.
Also i'm a smoker and have 3 ds so i dont personally think it sways much and certainly would'nt advise anyone to take it up for a sway. Off to stock up on some vodka! yay!

[atomic sagebrush]

i know this is a bit old, but just to add my experience.. with my first son we partied everyday like rockstars and drank alot (had ZERO plans for conception, BC failed lol)... when it came time to get preggo for our next baby, we figured hmm welp staying drunk for 2 mos works! and bam, another DS :/ so i would have to say that i would NOT recommend drinking as a way to have a girl.. just as a way to get preggo in general :) best of luck!!

LOL none of these things are 100%!

[atomic sagebrush]

This thread is hilarious lol. Very interesting as i would not be a big drinker,probably only 2-3 times a year.My tipple is vodka and coke so i'm smiling ear to ear after reading this. Maybe i should just drink a few before O to make me relaxed.Dh drinks a few beers every night and always has, so maybe it is more effective if dw drinks.
Also i'm a smoker and have 3 ds so i dont personally think it sways much and certainly would'nt advise anyone to take it up for a sway. Off to stock up on some vodka! yay!

What everyone must understand is it's not DOING any of these things that sways. It's what your BODY does as a result. So for anyone who is in good health and who may be genetically "better" at recovering from harm from the environment, they can shake off any/all pink sway tactics and still conceive boys. As we all know, some people smoke a pack a day and never get lung cancer either, because they're in good health otherwise or just have great genes, but no one would ever say smoking doesn't cause cancer.

I agree that no one should start smoking or drinking to excess because of this thread!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just to update, I did indeed conceive a baby girl having 1 drink a day with dinner every night, and then some weekend days, 3 or 4, for a couple months before I conceived. I don't advise more than 1 or 2 drinks a day for egg health and fertility, and of course take pg tests every 2 weeks even if you're certain you're not pg, but just so people know that it did seem to work for me. Or at the very least, did not sway blue.

[Kiara]

Why does alcohol sways boy?I didnt know that:-) My sister is not a drinker at all and she has daughters, I dont drink either and I have one. My mom has been drinking a lot in her life and she also has daughters (and one son). My grandmother that too drank a lot had three daughters and one son. Or is it only dh that needs to drink?

[atomic sagebrush]

Why does alcohol sways boy?I didnt know that:-) My sister is not a drinker at all and she has daughters, I dont drink either and I have one. My mom has been drinking a lot in her life and she also has daughters (and one son). My grandmother that too drank a lot had three daughters and one son. Or is it only dh that needs to drink?

It doesn't!! I had 4 boys conceived with no drinking, one girl (OMG) conceived while drinking (not while pg of course, but before)

InGender has made claims that alcohol sways blue because it raises estrogen and has potassium. I don't think the facts support those claims whatsoever.

[Kiara]

It doesn't!! I had 4 boys conceived with no drinking, one girl (OMG) conceived while drinking (not while pg of course, but before)

InGender has made claims that alcohol sways blue because it raises estrogen and has potassium. I don't think the facts support those claims whatsoever.

Thanks for your answer and again congratulations to your pregnancy!! Yes, I would never start drinking for a sway..feels like it would cause more damage then help.

[Princess of Pink]

Neither DH or I drink...we are both lucky to have 1-2 drinks a year! None of our girls were conceived with alcohol in our systems!

[atomic sagebrush]

Neither DH or I drink...we are both lucky to have 1-2 drinks a year! None of our girls were conceived with alcohol in our systems!

:agree: totally that this is the best and safest option when TTC ALWAYS! If I had known that I was going to get pg that month I would NOT have been drinking (we had not used protection in over a year and I had kinda given up hope). But if someone already drinks a reasonable amount or would feel like they might benefit from an occasional drink for relaxation purposes, it does not appear to sway strongly blue like IG has claimed in the past. :)

[HopingForPigtails]

Just thought I'd add, my grandmother had 2 boys, a girl, and then two more boys. She said the only thing that was different when she conceived her girl was that she was drinking a lot if gin. So it does make you wonder!!

[Cinss]

DD was concieved on a few beers.

[atomic sagebrush]

Okay this thread has me thinking.... I wasn't drinking with any of my sons. I can tend to be uptight. I wonder if I should have some vodka and diet cranberry juice every night a few days before I TTC. I could use anything that relaxes me and I can usually get drunk pretty easily. I am also very carefree and everything is funny when I am drunk. How many calories does 2 vodka and diet cranberry juices have in them you think? I think I would eat a later dinner with the drinks so I am not spiking my sugar levels for a third time in a day. What do you guys think? Between the Alcohol, diet, zyrtec and benadryl, I should be dry as a desert down there :rofl:

Please don't mix antihistamines with alcohol! No way, no how!!!

[prayforprincess]

My husband has always been a big drinker -- 6+ beers 5-6 days a week.
Me too -- though I am a martini girl. I have one or 2 nearly every night.
We have 3 boys, so I don't know how much I believe it sways girl. Otherwise we would have one for sure!
Actually most my friends that have girls are all either social drinkers or drink very rarely. None drink daily at all or even close to daily.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's what goes on in your body that matters, NOT the sway tactics themselves! Every person is an individual and is affected differently by different things. If your T stays high and husband's E stays low regardless of drinking, you'll still have more boys and if a person had low T/ DH had low T and or high E to begin with, they'll still have more girls.

Sway tactics are just a means to an end, not the end itself.

[Foxy]

We never drink and conceived GGGGGBBGB.

[Coccinelle33]

my husband drinks almost every day (beer) and sometimes liquor mixed with juice or soda but thats not very often. i drink anywhere from 0 times a month - around 7 times. i was drinking rum the night i conceived my last son. im pretty sure i was drinking with another one of my boys as well.

[Ribbons]

I haven't read this study (and probably shouldn't LOL) but I found this VERY interesting:

ACUTE EFFECT OF ALCOHOL ON ANDROGENS IN PREMENOPAUSAL WOMEN (http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/library_files/Acute_effect_of_alcohol_on_androgens_in_premenopau sal_women.pdf)

From a cursory glance, it appears that blood serum testosterone seems to rise after alcohol consumption. Atomic, have you seen this one?

So, hmmm... I may drop the alcohol altogether the cycle of my first attempt.

[myGirl]

I haven't read this study (and probably shouldn't LOL) but I found this VERY interesting:

ACUTE EFFECT OF ALCOHOL ON ANDROGENS IN PREMENOPAUSAL WOMEN (http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/library_files/Acute_effect_of_alcohol_on_androgens_in_premenopau sal_women.pdf)

From a cursory glance, it appears that blood serum testosterone seems to rise after alcohol consumption. Atomic, have you seen this one?

So, hmmm... I may drop the alcohol altogether the cycle of my first attempt.

Wow, good find!

I'm not going to drink any alcohol now that I'm TTC!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I haven't read this study (and probably shouldn't LOL) but I found this VERY interesting:

ACUTE EFFECT OF ALCOHOL ON ANDROGENS IN PREMENOPAUSAL WOMEN (http://www.cenegenicsfoundation.org/library/library_files/Acute_effect_of_alcohol_on_androgens_in_premenopau sal_women.pdf)

From a cursory glance, it appears that blood serum testosterone seems to rise after alcohol consumption. Atomic, have you seen this one?

So, hmmm... I may drop the alcohol altogether the cycle of my first attempt.

yes, I've seen that before. Thanks for posting it.

There are studies on both sides of the aisle on this which I have read, and I believe that alcohol in normal amounts is safe and fine while swaying and does not raise testosterone in any way that affects swaying. (affecting the results of a lab test is one thing, how it works in the human body is another thing entirely) Estrogen, testosterone, and progesterone and the precursors to them are VERY complicated things and difficult to understand and explain and researchers do not fully understand how it all works together.

[zanacal]

I didn't drink in the lead up to conceiving my girl but I did in the lead up to conceiving the boys. I don't think there's anything in it, except I tend not to drink when I'm trying to lose weight because of all the calories and the effect it has on my willpower!

[atomic sagebrush]

Great point Zana. Some people get hungry when they drink while others don't.

[Ribbons]

yes, I've seen that before. Thanks for posting it.

There are studies on both sides of the aisle on this which I have read, and I believe that alcohol in normal amounts is safe and fine while swaying and does not raise testosterone in any way that affects swaying. (affecting the results of a lab test is one thing, how it works in the human body is another thing entirely) Estrogen, testosterone, and progesterone and the precursors to them are VERY complicated things and difficult to understand and explain and researchers do not fully understand how it all works together.

Whew.... I was about to get really depressed about ruining my sway :)

I think I'll cut back anyway... I'm getting close (only 4 weeks now!) and I have to stop anyway, so might as well!

Wine, you will be missed. :tissue:

[sweetpea]

DH and I don't drink at all, so naturally we weren't drinking when DS1 or DS2 were conceived. We won't be drinking during our sway, either, but I'm not worried about whether or not it sways - there's plenty of other things to do to sway pink! ;)

[suregena]

My grandmother was pretty boozy when she was younger and having babies, come to think of it (on top of a pretty processed food diet...) but my grandfather also rode horses... bang, 4 girls.

HER mom/my great grandmother was an alcoholic, died in her early 60s stemming from issues from alcoholism, and had 2 girls and 1 boy. The boy (my great uncle) has always been an (excuse me) asshole, though. :x

My great aunt has 5 children. 2 girls, 3 boys. Of them, 1 girl and 1 boy were fraternal twins. She wasn't really boozy, though.

So, there you go!

[suregena]

My husband drinks a beer or two every other night or so. However, he is not a regular spirit drinker (but he does like them.) Maybe if HE had some vodka every night, it'd be of a little benefit. Or not, who knows!

All I know is I DON'T drink but when my son was conceived, I had been drinking fruity Belgian beers in Belgium (because they're GOOD!), so for me... I'll just stick to the Dr Pepper and Coke Zero (I don't normally drink soda and I *hate* aspartame!)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Just to update, I did indeed conceive a baby girl having 1 drink a day with dinner every night, and then some weekend days, 3 or 4, for a couple months before I conceived. I don't advise more than 1 or 2 drinks a day for egg health and fertility, and of course take pg tests every 2 weeks even if you're certain you're not pg, but just so people know that it did seem to work for me. Or at the very least, did not sway blue.

AS - what were you drinking (beer, wine, liquor)? I am not going to lie....it is summer time and I live close to the beach so we have been drinking more than usual. Our kids are out of preschool for the summer and it has been a tad difficult to deal with the all day fighting :worry:. DH has been having about 1-2 beers 5 days a week and I usually do the same. But, I am starting to get nervous that beer might not be the best choice. What is the better alcohol choice for pink?

[atomic sagebrush]

Beer mostly but occasionally mixed drinks with juice/soda.

[letiha]

What about mixing V8 with vodka for a boy sway :P

I'm going to be on my honeymoon when we are TTC the resort is all inclusive and I was worried about that drinking may sway pink... But i figure I was a non drinker when i concieved my 3 girls so drinks for a night or two won't hurt.

[atomic sagebrush]

A night or two won't hurt a thing and a tomato based drink would be among your best options for blue. Let me clue you in on a pretty yummy drink I've had a couple times, it's called a Chelada and it's Clamato juice and beer, I think with a bit of lime. Sounds hideous but it's actually tasty.

[atomic sagebrush]

PS I love it that you're TTC on your honeymoon! That's so romantic! :heart: Enjoy!!

[Mum23boys]

Yes, and I believe it is right in minerals and/or alkalinity as opposed to wine and beer.

Vodka also has a lack of nutrients compared to wine and beer.

Vodka and die coke for me it is hen - that way i ge drunk whils consuming aspartme at the same time !!! ha ha

[Inky]

From what I understand, alcohol raises estrogen, so it sways pink if the man is drinking, but I heard that alcohol otherwise sways boy and to avoid it when TTC a girl

[WantALittleBlue]

When we conceived DD2, my husband had been out drinking with a friend, who is a heavy drinker, this man has 3 daughters. I have heard his wife say that will all 3 of her DD that her husband was drunk.

[4Giffins]

My DD1 was concieved when DH and I had both been drinking(the reason he failed to pull out). DD2 we were sober but he has always drank beer and I tend to have an occasional glass of wine and or beer..maybe we will have to change that!

[atomic sagebrush]

From what I understand, alcohol raises estrogen, so it sways pink if the man is drinking, but I heard that alcohol otherwise sways boy and to avoid it when TTC a girl

That's what they believe on some sites based on one researcher's theory that is a)based on timing which has been totally debunked and b) not proven whatsoever. We honestly don't know how estrogen in women sways. We ALL have a crapload of estrogen or we woudln't be able to conceive at all, boys or girls. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

My DD1 was concieved when DH and I had both been drinking(the reason he failed to pull out). DD2 we were sober but he has always drank beer and I tend to have an occasional glass of wine and or beer..maybe we will have to change that!

I would!! We got 3 boys as teetotalers, one boy with my husband drinking moderately, then our girl when DH was drinking more than he should ahve and I was drinking some a bit too.

[4girls-and-counting]

Hello, I was just looking around this site ..so I know this tread is old but thought I'd post. I have had this theory for years that consuming alcohol the night of conception makes girls. everyone I know who had a few drinks ....or five or six lol conceived girls. I must say I have four girls and three where conceived during nights of Heavy drinking. I defenetly think this is a sway in the pink direction :giggle:

[mkarntz1980]

Im not but red wine is very acidic so i drank one small glass around the nights of Ov time. DH likes to drink and we got boys. my mom was an alcohollic got 2 girls.....my grandma alcoholic 4 girls....my aunt same thing 2 girls lol.

[meeks32]

Good friends of ours have 3 girls and although the mum's diet was very girl-friendly, the dad also drinks often (not heaps, but 1-3 beers a night). I do wonder! Since I have 2 boys and hardly ever drink, and DH does have 1-2 beers on a Friday night after work but pretty much the same. Although our DS1 was conceived on our honeymoon and we were certainly having a few then...

[mkarntz1980]

since red wine is very acidic i had 1 small glass every night before BD in O week

[pebmcpd7]

I got at least 3 of my boys in drunken fumbles, so it did'nt sway pink for me!!!!

[Atsaukina1]

lol peb- what were you drinking?

[pebmcpd7]

Lager or cider!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Not a magic bullet, and if you're in good condition overall it may be just something that you can easily shake off!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Good friends of ours have 3 girls and although the mum's diet was very girl-friendly, the dad also drinks often (not heaps, but 1-3 beers a night). I do wonder! Since I have 2 boys and hardly ever drink, and DH does have 1-2 beers on a Friday night after work but pretty much the same. Although our DS1 was conceived on our honeymoon and we were certainly having a few then...

When you're young, you are more able to withstand things that can otherwise diminish your overall condition.

[4girls-and-counting]

Oh no lol, I'm not an alcoholic ! BUT I will admit, my last three girls where conceived after weddings in which my husband and I drank a bit more then we should have. I want to be honest so we all can get some good evidence that would point to the theory being a more pink sway...I did drink to the point of being drunk. My husband drank to that point too. Please note that although I do drink about 1-2 glasses of wine a week,I do NOT heavely drink on a regular basses . My Mother and Father- in- law are acohaulics the are the parents of 3 boys. My husbands grand father was an acohaulic and the had 9 kids all boys but two. My thought is maybe a night of a mother'sheavy drinking changes the ph drastically due to the body not being used to it? ....but then that's not the case for your Mom,grandma,and Aunt. Very interesting ! :)

[Dreamofpink]

I've been pretty much teetotal for the last six years since conceiving DS1. However, if I do have a drink - maybe a couple of times a year - I like a small dram of neat single malt (all or nothing, me!). Any thoughts on how it *may* sway if I was to incorporate a couple of drams a week in lead up to ov? Also how on earth do we count cals for it? I'm leaning towards it being a healthier drink with nutrients, but not sure. Would help me a lot avoiding the big O is I was tipsy in our attempts sa I'm useless then! I'd also get away with it being close to Xmas :giggle:

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it will sway pink, if it sways. I looked up the nutrients and there weren't any to speak of. Jsut count the calories.

[aidansmum]

Well, DH and I had a lot of (mostly red) wine in our system when my last boy was conceived, we DTD -2, -1 and O day, it was during the Easter holidays and we were in party mode! It could be that we DTD too much for Pink or the oxidants in the wine made me too `healthy` :rofl: We weren't swaying though, but partying mode also means lots of yummy, protein rich, calorie packed food. I was 10 kg overweight (still am! :o

[atomic sagebrush]

The antioxidants in wine don't amount to anything compared to your overall diet as a whole.

[Principesa]

I think it depends exactly what your drinking idk, b/c 2 of my boys (the last 2) were conceived during drunken intercourse. so I was thinking the opposite (if you want a girl) don't conceive when your drunk. lol

but then I just read what atomic just put so, the moms of girls, probably had diets, etc. that swayed girl and it was a coincidence.

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't believe in magic foods or magic drinks that yield a particular gender. It never comes down to one thing like that (if it did, those clever old wives would have had it figured out a long time ago)

It is your diet, lifestyle, overall health and fertility plus that of your husband and some of us are just better able to shake off things that lower our overall condition than others are.

[Temerity]

I know this discussion has spanned years, and I'm new to the boards and figuring all this stuff out, so there might be more information in other forums (I found this on the public index post). But it seems to me that the science behind sometimes conceiving girls after a night of binge drinking might have to do with blood sugar levels. Alcohol can have serious effects on blood sugar, both immediately and for hours after.

From Medicinenet.com: Alcohol and Nutrition (http://www.medicinenet.com/alcohol_and_nutrition/page4.htm)

Alcohol can also negatively impact blood sugar levels each time that it is consumed, regardless of the frequency of consumption. Research has shown that acute consumption increases insulin secretion, causing low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), and can also impair the hormonal response that would normally rectify the low blood sugar. Drinking as little as 2 ounces of alcohol on an empty stomach can lead to very low blood sugar levels.

From the American Diabetes Association:
American Diabetes Association: Alcohol (http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/making-healthy-food-choices/alcohol.html)

Alcohol can cause hypoglycemia shortly after drinking and for up to 24 hours after drinking. If you are going to drink alcohol, check your blood glucose before you drink while you drink and for up to 24 hours.

So if you're already limiting your glucose levels, adding alcohol might drop you lower (and obviously you should be very careful not to make yourself sick).

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks for sharing! I agree about the binging and blood sugar but I did want to clarify that I do not recommend anything beyond MODERATE drinking 1-2 drinks per day as a sway tactic. :) The reason why we have delved into this as deeply as we have is partly curiosity and partly because some of the other sway sites were actually recommending drinking heavily as a BLUE tactic (because chronic overindulgence may raise estrogen levels) and that is just a terrible idea. :)

[Temerity]

Oh no, I didn't mean to imply you were encouraging anything unsafe. I just thought that once the blood sugar connection was pointed out, this might become one of those things that got taken too far and for my own CYA purposes I should stress, like you said, that moderation is ok, extreme is dangerous ;)

Oh and I also meant to note that for beer drinkers, beer and wine is less likely to have as much of this particular effect due to their more nutritious nature.

[atomic sagebrush]

I got that! NO worries at all!! I always appreciate anyone mentioning safety and ways we can better keep things in the "safe and sane" realm because boy howdy, some gals really do carry things too far at times. :)

Welcome to the site btw!

[maidentomother]

I've always believed that alcohol, even in moderation, sways pink via its effect on blood sugar. The LE diet, skipping breakfast, endurance daily cardio etc all have negative impacts on blood sugar, too. And of course, higher blood sugar is linked to PCOS which sways blue. I have long wondered if higher than normal insulin sensitivity is a hidden factor that sways pink in many women.

[atomic sagebrush]

^^^ :agree: and also explains that group of women who can eat a lot and stay thin yet still have tons of boys

[aaronpaul]

my husband drinks almost every day (beer) and sometimes liquor mixed with juice or soda but thats not very often. i drink anywhere from 0 times a month - around 7 times. i was drinking rum the night i conceived my last son. im pretty sure i was drinking with another one of my boys as well.

[hopper]

^^^ :agree: and also explains that group of women who can eat a lot and stay thin yet still have tons of boys

Would this be related to blood sugar levels then ladies? I have two boys. I have always been able to eat what I want and not put on excessive weight, though after DS2 I am at my lowest weight since my teens (have usually been 140lbs at 5'6 but am now 125lbs) My blood sugar has always been quite low but I'm just a bit confused by how it affects my sway attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know and do not have enough data to say for sure.

I think there are probably dozens if not hundreds of things that may sway. It can be hard to tease out one thing in isolation and look at it.

[atomic sagebrush]

bumping this updated thread, PLEASE continue to share experiences ladies!!!

[BunnyGirl19]

I didn't see it mentioned in this thread, but alcohol interferes with absorption of nutrients and is why chronic alcoholics have malnutrition problems. Just a guess, but my thoughts are that alcohol might help sway pink by reducing overall nutrients in the body.

[trifecta]

I was a moderate drinker and often had a beer or wine with dinner or a nightcap (usually whiskey) around the time I conceived both of my boys. I was also very healthy and nowhere near being an alcoholic. I would think you would really have to be a problem drinker for it to mess with your health enough to sway pink but that's just a guess.

[Quinn31]

Dang, dh and I don't drink and we still have two girls. That's our luck I guess.

[atomic sagebrush]

Remember, people got boys and girls before the invention of alcohol, crystal light, cranberries, and Fertile CM. :)

[sunnygirl]

DH and I nevr drank and have 3 DS. When my mother drank she had 2 x Dd. When she stopped she had DS. Grandmother never drank and had x 3 DS. Other grandmother never drank and had 4x DS........I think you are on to something...... Friends who have all DD drink about 4 times a week but don't get drunk.

[maidentomother]

I was just thinking, you know how in the middle ages everyone supposedly only drank weak ale/watered wine (bc they didn't have clean water, or sewers etc and had poor sanitation), does anyone know how alcoholic those beverages typically were by %? I wonder if it might have affected gender ratios at the time, or if other factors (like those being wealthy enough to afford more alcohol having richer, boy friendly diets) would have balanced things out?

[Kmomofthree]

Wow. Well since giving birth to my youngest son 2.5 years ago I have become a wine every night drinker. Hope that works in my favor xx :-)

[has2gentlemen]

I wish it was as easy as "drink for a girl". I've got two boys and basically never drink. I hate the feeling of being drunk, so I may never get a girl!


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[Hex]

I did not drink at all and my husband at the time was not a drinker either before I conceived my first son, but I got pregnant with him at 19 so I wasn't even legal yet, LOL!
With my second son, my hubby was a big drinker, almost every night, but I really wasn't at all.
Now I'm TTC a girl and I'm practically bordering on alcoholic :rofl::beer: I'm kidding but I definitely drink moderately. I get drunk just about every weekend (usually on vodka) and I drink on most weekdays too even if just a couple of steel reserves, hard cider or "straw-ber-itas".

[atomic sagebrush]

I wish it was as easy as "drink for a girl". I've got two boys and basically never drink. I hate the feeling of being drunk, so I may never get a girl!


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Don't forget that wahtever is swaying, HAS TO BE something that we can achieve without anything invented in the past year, decade, century, or millenia! Most of human history, we had no alcohol, so it cannot be the case that we have to have that to get a girl.

[atomic sagebrush]

I was just thinking, you know how in the middle ages everyone supposedly only drank weak ale/watered wine (bc they didn't have clean water, or sewers etc and had poor sanitation), does anyone know how alcoholic those beverages typically were by %? I wonder if it might have affected gender ratios at the time, or if other factors (like those being wealthy enough to afford more alcohol having richer, boy friendly diets) would have balanced things out?

I read a book about this and they weren't very alcoholic. Even babies and little kids drank wine and beer because just like you say it was safer than drinking water. I agree I'm curious about the history as well, but I think the fertility factor confounds it all, because the ladies in the lowest condition (and there were probably quite a few) would have quit having babies all together, some women who would have had boys in the modern world would have had girls, and the people in the best of the best condition may have been able to better "shake off" some of the worse things like drinking daily because they were so well fed. That complicates everythign!! :?

[maidentomother]

Kay, I hate feeling drunk too. The worst is how dehydrated I feel/am on alcohol. Also it only affects me physically, not mentally. So I seem out of it but am not....was very annoying at college parties with frat boys trying to take advantage etc.

Atomic, thanks so much for your thoughts. I suspected the % was pretty darn low since everyone drank it. So probably it was metabolized too quickly to have much noticeable effect? But I still wonder about hidden effects. Maybe everyone just had high tolerances? I would think the alcohol couldn't be that weak or it wouldn't be safe to drink. Surely someone has studied the exact amount needed to make water safe...

Sometimes I wonder if the middle ages went on for so long bc so many people were retarded by their mothers drinking while pregnant. I wonder about mothers drinking stronger alcohol more recently too, as the scientific effects of maternal alcohol consumption haven't been known long.

[atomic sagebrush]

When you're making alcohol the old fashioned way it happens is that for during a time it is highly alcoholic and then it peters out over time (which is why wine turns into vinegar and beer turns into malt vinegar and hard cider turns into apple cider vinegar eventually and can no longer get ya drunk any more.) So they didn't drink it at its most alcoholic point, but the germs were already dead by then, thus safe to drink even when not super duper intoxicating. It was actually a pretty major breakthrough to distill spirits whereupon everyone went from only mildly intoxicated to sh--tfaced constantly LOL. Luckily soon after that, they started to import tea and coffee and were able to recover from hangovers more quickly and the Enlightenment happened. :)

"History of the World in 6 Glasses" well worth a read!

[maidentomother]

Oh yum, super acidic weak booze. Blech! Great post atomic, I'll check out the book. Always been fascinated by how psychoactive drugs affect history!

[atomic sagebrush]

Haha I know delish, right???

[Mama2many]

I didn't drink at all with my first 4 kids (3 boys and 1 girl) and with my last 2 (boy and girl) I was drink quite often. Definitely at ovulation with both. Rum with my boy and vodka with my girl.

[Mama2many]

And my husband has always been a drinker. He pretty much has beer daily and will go on kicks where he drinks liquor and diet soda instead. I definitely think he was drinking the heaviest with both girls.

[Throwaway_panther]

Oh my gosh, had I known this was a sway... I wasn't drunk when we conceived, but had definitely been a steady drinker (on avg. 1-6 drinks a week, almost always craft beer, sometimes red wine or a mixed drink like a margarita); craft beer is what I consider a hobby, even, and my husband definitely drinks frequently (not drunk, again, but a small serving of scotch pretty often, steady craft beer drinking, etc.). I drank up until my BFP, too.

Can't emphasize enough that craft beer is very specifically the alcohol I was trying to "get in as much as possible" before getting pregnant... now I'm sad thinking I'm going to have to go without after my baby girl is born to try and get a boy!!

[Throwaway_panther]

Don't forget that wahtever is swaying, HAS TO BE something that we can achieve without anything invented in the past year, decade, century, or millenia! Most of human history, we had no alcohol, so it cannot be the case that we have to have that to get a girl.

That's not entirely true! Low ABV beer has been such a facet of human history, some historical texts credit it (specifically early beer, which was probably only clocking around 1-2%) as the reason for civilization! Evidence of beer in culture has been found as far back as 10,000 years ago!

(Oops, just saw your follow up post!)

[Kmomofthree]

Oh my gosh, had I known this was a sway... I wasn't drunk when we conceived, but had definitely been a steady drinker (on avg. 1-6 drinks a week, almost always craft beer, sometimes red wine or a mixed drink like a margarita); craft beer is what I consider a hobby, even, and my husband definitely drinks frequently (not drunk, again, but a small serving of scotch pretty often, steady craft beer drinking, etc.). I drank up until my BFP, too.

Can't emphasize enough that craft beer is very specifically the alcohol I was trying to "get in as much as possible" before getting pregnant... now I'm sad thinking I'm going to have to go without after my baby girl is born to try and get a boy!!

I feel you. I've become quite the wine drinker since we had our last son. I'm not looking forward to going without it for nearly a year! Of course, a baby makes it worth it but.... I sure do love my wine lol

[atomic sagebrush]

That's not entirely true! Low ABV beer has been such a facet of human history, some historical texts credit it (specifically early beer, which was probably only clocking around 1-2%) as the reason for civilization! Evidence of beer in culture has been found as far back as 10,000 years ago!

(Oops, just saw your follow up post!)

:agree: I meant including the 100k or millions of years prior to that, when we were cavemen, Lucies, and Lemurs. :)

[Debahlgrim]

So is it important to drink alcohol during your diet or during TTC?

[atomic sagebrush]

So is it important to drink alcohol during your diet or during TTC?

I believe it is a good sway tactic and I do encourage anyone who is able to, to give it a whirl.

[atomic sagebrush]

Updated this thread, here's a more in depth essay https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/56791-vices-swaying.html