November Chit Chat

[Mochagirl]

atomic seems to think it's safe to conceive on your first O, and from my random Google searches the consensus seems to be that doctors' insistence you wait is for dating reasons and also to make sure the Mom is emotionally ready. My midwife wants me to wait TWO full periods, which I can tell you now I'm not going to do (I'm waaaay to impatient for that). What I want to know particularly, is whether there's a difference with the safety of conceiving quickly after an early m/c versus a late one like mine. Let me know what you find out, DM.

I think for ME (and every woman's different, obviously), getting pregnant again fast is going to help me with my recovery process. It may sound weird but I'll feel that my angel baby will still be part of the pregnancy somehow if it happens soon. I also feel that maybe this post-miscarriage girl sway is a gift my angel baby is giving me. Weird, I know.

[princesssarah34]

Been thinking about you Mocha!!:hug2:
Z I am going over to see those u/s pic's right now!!!

My spotting has stopped completely :fingers:! But I am still very cautious! I am following Dr. orders.....for moderate bed rest. Basicly if I start spotting again I am to just go lay down! No heavy lifting etc. but I have a wonderful hubby who is doing it all since he is home and not working! I am able to do little things like go to the store or post office...just not run a marathon!
Last night I felt so calm and at peace with what ever happens from here on out. And I am strongly thinking that we will hear boy at the Nov. 26th u/s....and I am actually ok with it!

[DoulaMama]

I personally feel the same way- If your body is ready, it ovulates. If it isn't, it won't ovulate. I would like to know if the lining of the uterus needs more time to be ready, but I'm thinking that once everything has been shed, and your horomones are back to normal, your body will do what it needs to do in order to create the right lining etc. If it's simply for dating purposes, I find that silly. If you feel emotionally ready and that you are supposed to try right away- listen to your body:) it knows best:) I'm waiting to hear back from some midwife aquaintences(30+ years experience:)) and will let you know what they say. xoxo

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, DM :HH:

[Glittergirl]

Princess--happy that you and baby are fine. It's awesome that DH is helping out so you can rest. It's not easy to rest when you have other kids to care for.
Mocha--still thinking of you, I totally get that you wanna try again. that's how I was and getting pregnant helped me heal emotionally from the M/C. It was the first m/c I ever had so it was super scary for me and the change in hormones, etc. really brought be down.
Z--saw your scan....it just might be your girl cause I feel that at 12+weeks boy nubs are seriously obvious...I didn't even the scrotal bump like on other boy nubs at that time. Fingers crossed for you but either way, that's one cute lil bean you got there!!!

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- Just heard from an experienced childbirth educator in my area- she says that other than needing time to grieve, or feeling the need to wait for dating purposes or a medical issue that needs correcting...there is no need to wait. She in fact feels that the ovulation directly after a miscarriage is usually strong and results in a healthier egg. Not sure if this from anecdotal evidence...She recommends drinking Red Raspberry tea to get your cycle and uterus back to tip top shape. 1-2 cups a day. I'll let you know what else I hear:)

[Mochagirl]

Excellent! I'm already taking Vitex to help my cycle get back to normal, but maybe I'll add the tea as well. Let me know what else you hear.

[XXdreaming]

just logging in after months being gone, mocha I am so sorry for your loss :( , I tried to conceive right after each of my losses but I never did, didnt know if I was ovulating or not but I did conceive the next month and I grieved my losses but I wanted to be pregnant again so bad again and I was so relieved and happy once I conceived again so I completely understand wanting to become pregnant asap again, emotionally it did help me *big hugs*

[Out of the Blue]

Zan, if I truly felt boy, I would say it:) If it was obvious, the ladies here wouldn't lead you astray and get your hopes up for nothing- I think you have a 50/50 chance still-exactly the same as before we saw the pics! Don't be down, Mama:HH: I think you're going to get a great surprise in a months time:bigsmile:

:agree:...Yep...Zan, I would never B.S. you on this just to make you feel better...Honestly, what I saw was completely inconclusive. I'm just going w/my gut on this one b/c:

1.) Your pics give us nothing conclusive which as frustrating as it is, is a good thing!
2.) The fact that you saw no "boy" parts as usually it's easier to tell w/a boy at this time IMO...Pics you posted didn't show "boy" parts either.
3.) Your sway was perfect in my book...couldn't have been better!
4.) I just feel like it's a girl for you!

XX or XY, we're here for you! :hug2:

BTW, your bub looks really healthy and cute...That cord looks really elastic and healthy too!

[Out of the Blue]

atomic seems to think it's safe to conceive on your first O, and from my random Google searches the consensus seems to be that doctors' insistence you wait is for dating reasons and also to make sure the Mom is emotionally ready. My midwife wants me to wait TWO full periods, which I can tell you now I'm not going to do (I'm waaaay to impatient for that). What I want to know particularly, is whether there's a difference with the safety of conceiving quickly after an early m/c versus a late one like mine. Let me know what you find out, DM.

I think for ME (and every woman's different, obviously), getting pregnant again fast is going to help me with my recovery process. It may sound weird but I'll feel that my angel baby will still be part of the pregnancy somehow if it happens soon. I also feel that maybe this post-miscarriage girl sway is a gift my angel baby is giving me. Weird, I know.

I know your angel will be a part of this next pregnancy w/you and she'll be w/you forever...I feel the same way you do and it gives me peace. I think of you all the time and I'm sending you cyber :HH: everyday.

[Mochagirl]

I know your angel will be a part of this next pregnancy w/you and she'll be w/you forever...I feel the same way you do and it gives me peace. I think of you all the time and I'm sending you cyber :HH: everyday.

Thanks, Jen - that means a lot coming from you :HH:. It makes me feel so much better to think our angel babies are watching over us. I'm really hoping we can be due date buddies.

[Out of the Blue]

Thanks, Jen - that means a lot coming from you :HH:. It makes me feel so much better to think our angel babies are watching over us. I'm really hoping we can be due date buddies.

I think we will be but regardless, we'll stick together!!!

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- I got loads of responses! I'm going to compile them and send them to you privately:) It'll just take some time...I'm on my iPhone (have been since Monday) because my 3.5yo dumped a cup of water on my keyboard...and half the keys are toast :( Need to get a new one this weekend. Anyway- the general consensus- Absolutely no problem trying right away. A few mentioned the 11w mark thinking it is was Chromasomal and most likely would not happen again. A couple mw's suggested getting iron levels checked because of blood loss. It can affect the next pregnancy. Flouradix daily is fantastic for anemia from blood loss. I'll get the rest of the info sent to you:) talk soon! xoxo

[zanacal]

Thank you Jen, what a lovely post to come home from work to :D I had no idea a cord was meant to look elastic and healthy (or how I'd tell if mine was!) so that's good to hear too. I'm going to try and find out my boys' scan photos but I honestly think there are no gender clues in any of them!

The lady at work who is due 10 days before me showed me her scan photo today and it looks really girlie! She already has a girl (with a different partner), she never eats breakfast and is always eating sweets and they had problems conceiving so that would be my prediction for her anyway! I told everyone at work my news today and one of the ladies said 'some men just can't make sperm of both sexes' - I kept my trap shut of course! I had to announce on FB today (I would have done it soon anyway) as DS1 told everybody about it in Show and Tell at school!!

[Mochagirl]

DM - thanks SO much for the info. I'm going to the doctor on Friday to have my blood checked. I'm a little concerned my iron will be low, not only from the m/c, but also cause I'm now back on the LE diet. The last few nights I've been continuing to take my prenatal rather than just the folic so I'd get that extra iron, but I keep thinking I should switch back to just folic to improve my sway. Maybe I shouldn't?

[DoulaMama]

You don't need a prenatal-folic acid is good:) BUT, I would seriously consider Flouradix. It's got highly absorbable iron in it- you'd only need to take one bottle for a months time. It has some B vitamins and plant extracts in it that would really help your body to heal, get your iron up and help with conception. I do think the sway is important but IMO the health of your body is much more important. xoxo

[Mochagirl]

Thanks for the advice, DM - I'll definitely look into it. Where would I find it - a health food store?

[DoulaMama]

Yup- any health food store would have it. I am anemic(my mom is too)and managed to get my blood up enough for a homebirth with DS2. It was quite low and I raised it over 10 points! It really works:)

[Mochagirl]

Great - I'll go out tonight to look for some once my Mom gets to town and can stay with the kids.

BTW (and apologies to everyone else for the TMI), I had one more big clot come out last night, and it contained grey tissue that I think must have been the sac they saw still in there on my u/s. Hopefully this means my uterus is clear now and the bleeding will stop soon. I have a follow-up u/s scheduled for Tuesday, then a doctor's appointment on Friday, so hopefully I'll hear everything's healthy.

[Flava]

Z- that is so cute on show and tell LOL! And the stupid comment about some man can't make both type of sperm wth?
yeah it's thru but for a very small % (like my DH lol) and why say something like that? She don't like you or she is just jealous of you!

[DoulaMama]

Great - I'll go out tonight to look for some once my Mom gets to town and can stay with the kids.

BTW (and apologies to everyone else for the TMI), I had one more big clot come out last night, and it contained grey tissue that I think must have been the sac they saw still in there on my u/s. Hopefully this means my uterus is clear now and the bleeding will stop soon. I have a follow-up u/s scheduled for Tuesday, then a doctor's appointment on Friday, so hopefully I'll hear everything's healthy.

That definitely sounds like sac. I hope that this is the end of the m/c Mocha. My thoughts are with you, Hun~xoxo

[purplepoet20]

You don't need a prenatal-folic acid is good:) BUT, I would seriously consider Flouradix. It's got highly absorbable iron in it- you'd only need to take one bottle for a months time. It has some B vitamins and plant extracts in it that would really help your body to heal, get your iron up and help with conception. I do think the sway is important but IMO the health of your body is much more important. xoxo

A nice serving of Organic Liver will also give a lot of iron and since it is from food it is better absorbed. Also some foods are rich in calcium but they can affect absorbing other ones - Spinach is rich in cal but affects iron.

[purplepoet20]

Great - I'll go out tonight to look for some once my Mom gets to town and can stay with the kids.

BTW (and apologies to everyone else for the TMI), I had one more big clot come out last night, and it contained grey tissue that I think must have been the sac they saw still in there on my u/s. Hopefully this means my uterus is clear now and the bleeding will stop soon. I have a follow-up u/s scheduled for Tuesday, then a doctor's appointment on Friday, so hopefully I'll hear everything's healthy.

Things can only good better from now until you hold your baby!

[Mochagirl]

Things can only good better from now until you hold your baby!

Very true, pp! I just feel like this has been such a crappy Fall - in the past 3 months my beloved kitty died, my father was diagnosed with cancer, and now I've had a m/c. I'm sooooo ready for 2011 to be over and have a fresh start with 2012 and (hopefully) a new baby to love!

[DoulaMama]

Yeah the whole sperm thing pisses me off too:( or the comments, "Hope this is a girl!". What if I dont want a girl? How do YOU know what I want?? Please bear with me.... I'm a little bitter this morning:( My DDC on Mothering is FULL of second time moms all finding out that they are getting their pigeon pairs. It's making me so angry!!! And it's not because I don't think these women deserve a girl or vice versa...it's because they are so F$&@@n smug about it! One lady wrote a post about thinking it was a girl after 2 boys but decided not to tell anyone her thoughts in case she was wrong. She sounded sad but a little scared to mention GD in the post. So, stupid me decides to tell her about my situation and about how I would love a girl in my life, and that I would be DISAPPOINTED if I got a boy for my last. The big D word! God forbid! Well, a bunch of ladies with mixed genders or PP's posted after me and basically made me look like an idiot including the OP. Im just pretty bummed and angry at the same time. Yeah, I might be getting a girl...but I'm still pissy at these women who think you should absolutely happy no matter what you get...and then complete their next sentence with "I'm so blessed to have one of each cause I know we could never afford 4 kids!"

Aaaaaaahhhhh! -rips hair out-!!!!

[DoulaMama]

Oh yes- about absorption- take your iron supplement on an empty stomach(I take mine at night) with a shot of OJ:) Vitamin C aides in absorption:)

[DoulaMama]

Very true, pp! I just feel like this has been such a crappy Fall - in the past 3 months my beloved kitty died, my father was diagnosed with cancer, and now I've had a m/c. I'm sooooo ready for 2011 to be over and have a fresh start with 2012 and (hopefully) a new baby to love!

You will Mocha! Next year is your year!! xoxo

[Mochagirl]

I totally know what you mean about that smugness, DM. I encounter it all the time. I'm quite vocal about wanting a girl, and I get a lot of dirty looks, etc. - it's such a taboo thing to admit!

And yes, I was planning to avoid all those 'Hope it's a girl!' comments by waiting to make the big announcement until after I know the gender for sure.

[Flava]

DM- that is not nice at all! You should tell them that just because you want a girl it does not mean you are not happy for a boy.
And until they know how you feel they can save their comment because they have no idea what they talking about.
And wth is with the PP? I never wanted one.

i also have a Q here- so why is that we have to stay on the HE diet in the 2ww if the "baby" traveling have his own supply and don't take anything from the mom? or does he?
But if not the what's up with this" need to stay on diet because baby boys develop better in high nutrition and sugar thing"?

[zanacal]

Ugh DM, that sounds so annoying! I'm already getting the 'hope this one's a girl' comments - and it's a bit silly because of course I do too and I feel supported when you guys on here say the same thing but it's annoying because they're just assuming that's why we're having another (again, it's true so perhaps I've no right to be cross!). I guess I just feel protective of my baby knowing it could be a boy - it won't be any less loved or wanted than the others.

{hugs} Mocha, next year has to be your year xx

Flava - the important thing in the 2ww is to keep your blood sugar levels up because a male fertilised egg develops better in a medium glucose environment - it can't suck it up as efficiently as a female fertilised egg.

[DoulaMama]

I have no clue about the fertilized egg question...sorry Flava.

About the PP....I didn't want that either! I wanted 2 girls. That's it. I thought I might want a bigger family...but that was after DS1....thinking I would have 2 girls after him....LOL! Now of course, 1 girl would be just amazing. I do feel bad about the "no sister" thing, but then again, I have a sister(3y younger) and we have nothing in common and are not close AT ALL. Anyway, there's also a girl on there who's pregnant with her fourth girl and she has been so vocal about being blessed as she DID NOT want a boy. Everyone there is pissing me off today. Plus, my 3.5yo, red haired, obstreperous child has emptied the entire contents of a 1lb bag of raisins ALL over my living room. I think there has to be about 500 of them on the floor. ~sigh~

[ELP]

I Plus, my 3.5yo, red haired, obstreperous child has emptied the entire contents of a 1lb bag of raisins ALL over my living room. I think there has to be about 500 of them on the floor. ~sigh~:bigsmile: My 1 yr old did this a few days ago, only she made a stack in one of the corners which looks like a pile of mouse droppings!!!

[Flava]

Ehhh i don't think i ever have to worry about male embryo traveling in me lol
DM- about the woman pregnant with the 4th girl and so happy that's is a big BS!!! lol
I wanted my first 2 girl then I wished for a boy well did not happen.
sorry about the raisins mess !

[Glittergirl]

I have no clue about the fertilized egg question...sorry Flava.

About the PP....I didn't want that either! I wanted 2 girls. That's it. I thought I might want a bigger family...but that was after DS1....thinking I would have 2 girls after him....LOL! Now of course, 1 girl would be just amazing. I do feel bad about the "no sister" thing, but then again, I have a sister(3y younger) and we have nothing in common and are not close AT ALL. Anyway, there's also a girl on there who's pregnant with her fourth girl and she has been so vocal about being blessed as she DID NOT want a boy. Everyone there is pissing me off today. Plus, my 3.5yo, red haired, obstreperous child has emptied the entire contents of a 1lb bag of raisins ALL over my living room. I think there has to be about 500 of them on the floor. ~sigh~

I bet that's a defense mechanism because she doesn't want to get the rude comments those of us that have 3+of the same get. I mean, I never thought of PP as ideal and I wanted boys mainly BUT....after 3 it's like come on I'd like a girl too! LOL! But I have to admit during this pregnancy people/strangers would tell me I hope this is your girl and I would always say I Love having boys--that was my defense mechanism cause I just wanted those comments to go away. i just didn't want people to ask me what I'm having cause if I said boy, I knew I would hear rude things and I don't want any of my kids to ever hear anything negative about who they are, or mommy needs a girl, or poor you, etc.

[DoulaMama]

Oh GG, I'm thinking the same thing... Her gender guess was boy, she had a bet with her DH that baby was a boy, so I think she was shocked to get a girl. Who knows...I just find it so hard to listen to people complain about how others don't appreciate a "healthy baby". Who said we didn't appreciate that??? It's kinda like birth for me....yes, I want a healthy baby/healthy mom....but there is more to it than that! An empowering experience does a whole lot of good for Mama's! Same goes for this- I want a healthy baby....but I really want a girl as well:) Sorry about the ranting...it's been a crap day:(

[Glittergirl]

Totally get it! I announced on FB what we are having...now I'm terrified what if the u/s is wrong...what will people say. I already had to hear all the crap when we got preg. every comment was about "oh trying for a girl huh?" or hope you get a girl I felt like posting "NO we wanted 4 kids either way" which was the truth but I kept my mouth shut and was just polite. At my son's soccer practice a mom with PP found out its a girl from another mom who congratulated me and she made the remark that the u/s could still be wrong! And went on to tell me about someone's who was. AGH! I'm seriously considering going in for another u/s. DH would be MAD though, he thinks those aren't good for the baby and we should just get the minimum u/s needed.

[purplepoet20]

When hubby and I talked about kids we only talked about having 2 and we wanted a pigeon pair. But honestly I would still love 4 kids. I don't have my family around at all and my kids fill my day.

Yesterday at the store I was holding DS2 close because of the wind and at that moment I felt so happy that no matter what happens I have my kids with me to hold. I am happy with what I have and if we don't have anymore kids then o well.

My husband was talking last night about having 4 kids and said he would like 2 girls next so they would have each other like the boys have each other. He only said this because we saw a family at a resturant who had BBGG and they had each other to talk to and everyone was happily joking around.... I wrote down on a napkin that we agree on having 4 kids and the last 2 will be girls, we both signed it! So I quess God/s have to honor that contract right ;)

[DoulaMama]

So, how is everyone? I've not been on here much lately. I have a cold of some sort-it's attacked my throat and I've been coughing non stop:( Ugh. That and my nose is just totally plugged. What a joy.

Mocha- how are you feeling? I'm sorry I havent sent the herbal info to you yet:( I'll get on that.

Anyone have snow yet? We have an inch or two and it's making me excited for Christmas:) I'm not looking forward to Jan/Feb though. They have to be the worst months of the year, for me. It's so darn cold here and I feel trapped.
On a more positive note, I've just signed up for my midwifery studies! It's a 4 year distance education program-plus apprenticeship and hands on course for stitching etc:) I'm beyond excited!!!

Oh and only 2 days til I see my nugget!!!! Eeeeek!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Wow, DM - 2 days - you must be so excited!

I'm doing ok - I have my ups and downs. The bleeding's almost completely stopped - just some brown spotting. I go for my u/s tomorrow and my blood test Friday, so that will give me a better idea whether I'll be ready to conceive this cycle. I miss being pregnant and just want to have a baby to look forward to again.

[DoulaMama]

I bet that's a defense mechanism because she doesn't want to get the rude comments those of us that have 3+of the same get. I mean, I never thought of PP as ideal and I wanted boys mainly BUT....after 3 it's like come on I'd like a girl too! LOL! But I have to admit during this pregnancy people/strangers would tell me I hope this is your girl and I would always say I Love having boys--that was my defense mechanism cause I just wanted those comments to go away. i just didn't want people to ask me what I'm having cause if I said boy, I knew I would hear rude things and I don't want any of my kids to ever hear anything negative about who they are, or mommy needs a girl, or poor you, etc.
Hunny, with your nub shots, your 20w u/s, numerous people seeing a girl, plus the tech telling it's a girl.......
You do not need another u/s ;) YOU ARE HAVING A GIRL! :rofl: People like that are mean and want you to sweat it. Ignore and enjoy the last half of your pregnancy, with your daughter in your belly. xoxo

[Flava]

purple-such a nice story! I hope you do get 2 girls!
i was planing 2G1B but did not happened...oh well

DM-hope you feel better soon!

[DoulaMama]

Wow, DM - 2 days - you must be so excited!

I'm doing ok - I have my ups and downs. The bleeding's almost completely stopped - just some brown spotting. I go for my u/s tomorrow and my blood test Friday, so that will give me a better idea whether I'll be ready to conceive this cycle. I miss being pregnant and just want to have a baby to look forward to again.

I hope that everything looks great on the u/s, Mocha. If the baby had passed away quite some time ago, the hcg is probably gone from your system. I really hope you can try right away. It sounds like you need to:HH: Lots of love from me to you~ know that you're on my mind all the time. xoxo

[DoulaMama]

purple-such a nice story! I hope you do get 2 girls!
i was planing 2G1B but did not happened...oh well

DM-hope you feel better soon!

Thank you:HH: Not too long til testing time, hey???!! FX'd Flava!!!!

[begonia]

PP I think BBGG would be lovely; FX you get what you desire.

HUGS Mocha!! FX you get the all clear to go again and have a post-mc BFP, too!

[begonia]

Wow, DM ... 2 days til the big u/s? No worries though love. She's still going to be a she :)

[DoulaMama]

Wow, DM ... 2 days til the big u/s? No worries though love. She's still going to be a she :)

Thanks Hun:HH: I'm hoping you're right! I do feel it's a girl and the pics are pretty good but I really am terrified that I've built myself up to see a girl on Wed. and I won't get to see that....

How have you been, B? I'm hoping that you're feeling a little bit better but totally understand if you don't. It wasn't until DS2 had been around for a few months that I really started to feel lucky to have him. Only 15 or so weeks to go!!! Wow!

[begonia]

15 weeks left is freaking me out. I'm not doing well at all honestly :( I wish I'd just taken the two girls I have and not wanted a 3rd child ... but I really did want 3 kids, it's just now that I don't because it's a girl. I wish so badly that I had realized that BEFORE ttc but I thought I'd be OK with another one. I feel awful that my girls have ME for their mom when there are so many women who would cherish daughters. But I had 2 days last week that I managed not to cry so hey that's progress right? Two days out of two months, LOL. What sucks most for me about this is I am normally such a happy person in general, and this has just wrecked me. I miss being me :(

You know if I thought there was ANY doubt on those pics we (because so many others saw them too!) wouldn't have let you get your hopes up! I think there will be LOTS of shock if you come back 11/23 with anything other than confirmation of your daughter. FX for you, but really ... like with Glitter ... I think it's pretty darn close to 100% girl already!

[DoulaMama]

15 weeks left is freaking me out. I'm not doing well at all honestly :( I wish I'd just taken the two girls I have and not wanted a 3rd child ... but I really did want 3 kids, it's just now that I don't because it's a girl. I wish so badly that I had realized that BEFORE ttc but I thought I'd be OK with another one. I feel awful that my girls have ME for their mom when there are so many women who would cherish daughters. But I had 2 days last week that I managed not to cry so hey that's progress right? Two days out of two months, LOL. What sucks most for me about this is I am normally such a happy person in general, and this has just wrecked me. I miss being me :(

You know if I thought there was ANY doubt on those pics we (because so many others saw them too!) wouldn't have let you get your hopes up! I think there will be LOTS of shock if you come back 11/23 with anything other than confirmation of your daughter. FX for you, but really ... like with Glitter ... I think it's pretty darn close to 100% girl already!

I'm so sorry that this has been such a terrible time for you:( I wish I could do something for you. The only thing I can say, and I'm sure others have said this too, is that in 1...or 5..or 20 years down the road, you'll be so incredibly happy to have the family you have. I know it doesn't help much right now...and you're probably sick of hearing all of this "It'll be ok" talk....but one day you'll look back and everything will be so different. So much love from me, coming your way~~~~

(Thank you B~ I just can't wait to hear the tech say, "It's a girl!" OMG...I may just pass out:))

[Mochagirl]

begonia - sorry you're still having such a tough time :hug2:

[Glittergirl]

DM is it really just a few more days?? I am SO stalking you til you post your little girl parts!
Begonia--sorry you are feeling down, just take baby steps...2 days of not crying is in the right direction. take all the time you need, as I recall DH was not opposed to trying again in a few years right? It's just the hormones that are getting to you right now, I find myself way more sensitive lately too, and when GD rears it's ugly head, that doesn't help!

Hope everyone is doing great. I'm going to my routine exam tomorrow I've been having what I think are Braxton Hicks but they can be quite uncomfortable and I get them a few times an hour. Hope my doctor can help ease my mind.

Ok I'll be back on later....can't wait for your scan DM!!!
We're getting ready for thanksgiving here...Happy holidays to everyone!

[DoulaMama]

I just started to get BH's as well, GG. Mine usually start quite early and become painful once I'm into the third trimester. Have you had any early babies? If not, you most likely have nothing to worry about:) Just make sure you stay hydrated as that can make them worse. xoxo I hope you have a great Thanksgiving holiday!! Oh and thanks for the excitement!!! xoxox

[zanacal]

I'm excited too DM - every day I look for your siggy to see how long we have to wait!

I'm sorry I'm a bit absent at the moment, this nub sh!t is doing my head in!!

[DoulaMama]

I'm excited too DM - every day I look for your siggy to see how long we have to wait!

I'm sorry I'm a bit absent at the moment, this nub sh!t is doing my head in!!

OMG. Tell me about it...I've looked at more nubs in the past 4 weeks than I care to admit! Plus, I'm constantly checking my scan pics on here to see if I can a boy nub...it's ridiculous!!! Do you think you could bump your scan date up a week;) LOL! Sorry....I'm just on the edge of my seat...wanting to know if I'm right!!!! 26 days until your scan!!! You should put a countdown ticker in your siggy:bigsmile:

[purplepoet20]

So, how is everyone? I've not been on here much lately. I have a cold of some sort-it's attacked my throat and I've been coughing non stop:( Ugh. That and my nose is just totally plugged. What a joy.

Mocha- how are you feeling? I'm sorry I havent sent the herbal info to you yet:( I'll get on that.

Anyone have snow yet? We have an inch or two and it's making me excited for Christmas:) I'm not looking forward to Jan/Feb though. They have to be the worst months of the year, for me. It's so darn cold here and I feel trapped.
On a more positive note, I've just signed up for my midwifery studies! It's a 4 year distance education program-plus apprenticeship and hands on course for stitching etc:) I'm beyond excited!!!

Oh and only 2 days til I see my nugget!!!! Eeeeek!!!!

I have the same cold going on... DS1 had it for a few days, DS2 has had it for just over a week, and so far I am at day 5. Hubby gets it next over the Holiday weekend. The great thing about it right now is I finally get to see my SIL and BIL while I am sick, payback for all the times they don't tell us they are sick and show up!

[zanacal]

OMG. Tell me about it...I've looked at more nubs in the past 4 weeks than I care to admit! Plus, I'm constantly checking my scan pics on here to see if I can a boy nub...it's ridiculous!!! Do you think you could bump your scan date up a week;) LOL! Sorry....I'm just on the edge of my seat...wanting to know if I'm right!!!! 26 days until your scan!!! You should put a countdown ticker in your siggy:bigsmile:

No, this was the earliest Saturday morning scan I could get! I thought about a ticker but decided that might prolong the agony!! I also don't want everyone to spot it and be waiting and then to have to come back and announce my sway didn't work! I'm going to be a complete loon by Christmas!!

[princesssarah34]

You ladies sure are busy these days!!
Hope everyone is doing well! I am doing ok....no more spotting since well last time....still hoping it stays away. Been feeling kind of yuck the last few days...I hope it goes away soon!
DM yay on that scan just days away!! Mine is this Sat...so I will be right behind you this week!
I am 95% sure this little one is a boy..just my feeling on it anyway....but he will be loved that is for sure...and to give me such a scare...the little stinker!!

[Mochagirl]

I hope that everything looks great on the u/s, Mocha. If the baby had passed away quite some time ago, the hcg is probably gone from your system. I really hope you can try right away. It sounds like you need to:HH: Lots of love from me to you~ know that you're on my mind all the time. xoxo

I used an HPT today out of curiosity, and it was positive. Praying the HCG disappears soon....

Oh, and I'm officially stalking you, DM. What time's your appointment?

[Mochagirl]

DM yay on that scan just days away!! Mine is this Sat...so I will be right behind you this week!
I am 95% sure this little one is a boy..just my feeling on it anyway....but he will be loved that is for sure...and to give me such a scare...the little stinker!!

Oh yay - someone else to stalk! Best of luck, pp - I know after a scare like yours gender suddenly seems less important. I hope your healthy little bean gives you a nice show and I'll be sending you pink thoughts :HH:.

[DoulaMama]

I used an HPT today out of curiosity, and it was positive. Praying the HCG disappears soon....

Oh, and I'm officially stalking you, DM. What time's your appointment?
I'm sorry Mocha:( I'll be praying for the same thing~ xoxo I'm sure it'll be out of your system soon. (((hugs))) I've taken a bunch of notes on herbs etc, today and I'll send the info your way tonight:)

My appt. is at 3pm on Wed:) I'll log on as soon as I'm off the table which should hopefully be by 3:15pm!!!

[DoulaMama]

No, this was the earliest Saturday morning scan I could get! I thought about a ticker but decided that might prolong the agony!! I also don't want everyone to spot it and be waiting and then to have to come back and announce my sway didn't work! I'm going to be a complete loon by Christmas!!
I'm really hoping that you'll hear "GIRL"!!!! in 26 days! I do get a girl vibe from those pics! I can't wait for your scan!! Oh and I agree about the ticker...although I do like the countdown for the last 5 days:)

[DoulaMama]

You ladies sure are busy these days!!
Hope everyone is doing well! I am doing ok....no more spotting since well last time....still hoping it stays away. Been feeling kind of yuck the last few days...I hope it goes away soon!
DM yay on that scan just days away!! Mine is this Sat...so I will be right behind you this week!
I am 95% sure this little one is a boy..just my feeling on it anyway....but he will be loved that is for sure...and to give me such a scare...the little stinker!!
That's right!!! The 26th right??? So exciting! ~~~~GIRLIE VIBES~~~~~I'll be stalking you!!!!

[Flava]

Thank you:HH: Not too long til testing time, hey???!! FX'd Flava!!!!
I don't feel bfp...and if anyone take a look at my FF cahrt looks funny i think temp will just drop and I get af and then is all over for me. no more dream

[Flava]

DD and Z- really i don't know what are you 2 stressing about so much??? You both have a girl in there super cute and beautiful! I know it and that's it!!!( see DD I feel it for you lol)
Just wish I could have been this lucky to get my boy .
so relax!
oh yeah and I so STALKING TOO!:p

[Flava]

I used an HPT today out of curiosity, and it was positive. Praying the HCG disappears soon....

Oh, and I'm officially stalking you, DM. What time's your appointment?


Mocha my girl!:hug2: I really hope you can start ttc again!!!

[Flava]

You ladies sure are busy these days!!
Hope everyone is doing well! I am doing ok....no more spotting since well last time....still hoping it stays away. Been feeling kind of yuck the last few days...I hope it goes away soon!
DM yay on that scan just days away!! Mine is this Sat...so I will be right behind you this week!
I am 95% sure this little one is a boy..just my feeling on it anyway....but he will be loved that is for sure...and to give me such a scare...the little stinker!!

TG there is no more spotting! Don't be so sure it's a boy!! you have a good chance for that girl too! FX

[purplepoet20]

Thought I would take a little time to myself this morning and clear my head before my trip and my next cycle... I cramped all day yesterday really bad like when I was a teen and would curl up on the couch for hours and cry. I couldn't sleep much last night with more cramping, my cough, and poor DS2 having a bad dream. I am still in a little pain but I am hoping AF starts before the day ends.

My MIL called me to ask what I would help make for Thanksgiving Dinner because my SIL is only willing to make her vegan gravy (it's gross). I guess she has been busy baking breads and muffins for herself for a week and doesn't want to cook anymore... bla bla bla. Just like the last several years she isn't going to lift a finger for anyone but herself. So my MIL and I decided what we are going to make based on what we want. Turkey, Ham, Italian Greenbeans, Sweet Potatoes, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Matzo Stuffing, and Cranberry Jello Mold. The men are making the pies... I am so ready to eat. My SIL even called me to ask why I wont make the normal greenbean casserole or real stuffing and I told her that if she wants that then she should offer to make it... hehehe! I don't like normal stuffing and my boys can't have dairy so no casserole.

DS1 is trying to pack his own bag for Grandmas right now... and telling me "turn off the computer we have to get ready to go to grandmas house" and doing a little (huff with hand on his forehead) "OMG". I tried to tell him to pack clothing but he is filling his bag with toys... Ok my laughing is good for the day.

... Anyways I can't believe I have to deal with AF, cooking, and my SIL all at the same time. If you see me post anything during the next week then I am going to be in a bad mood.

[tweedledeedum]

hi girls, lots going on in here lately!

dm and princess - I will be waiting to hear your news this week! FX for pink!

mocha - i hope you are able to ttc again right away and that everything is returning to normal on your u/s. Sending healing thoughts your way.

z - sorry you're worrying about your nub shots - I have been the same way. It is hard not to obsess. Just remember that nubs are not an exact science and it still could go either way! (and I haven't seen your nub shots yet). you had a great sway!

b- sorry about the GD. It really, really sucks. I hope you are feeling better soon.

I haven't had any spotting since last Thursday! Hoping it is over now. I have a mw appointment next week so i'm looking forward to hearing the heartbeat. Now that I'm getting further along (14 wks), I'm starting to worry about GD. I'm still not sure if i will find out the gender with this baby or not. I found out with my first, not with my second, and they were both hard in their own way. I am leaning towards finding out because if it is a girl, I will have time to shop. Otherwise with three little ones, shopping will be hard. But that is such a superficial reason. I need to think it's a boy, so I'm not disappointed, but I just keep thinking girl.

[DoulaMama]

Flava- I'm having some good feelings for this month!!! Come on BFP!!!! I'll be stalking the 2ww thread!!!!

PP- I hope you have a stress free holiday, Hun. Enjoy eating some yummy food!!! You deserve a nice dinner!!!

Tweedle- So glad the spotting has gone! FX'd that's it's a pink bean you have in there!! You could find out in 3 weeks!!! Time flies!!!

Afm- this head cold is terrible:( I woke coughing and couldnt stop for 10 minutes. I feel like I did 100 situps in my sleep. I'll be so happy to be healthy again.
I hope the u/s place is ok with me bringing my 18mos old tomorrow...my close friend is watching my 2 older boys but she has 4 kids herself...wanted to lessen her workload. Hopefully he'll sit on the table and stay still....
Tomorrow can't come soon enough!!!

[Mochagirl]

Hey ladies - I had the u/s today but I don't have any news. I asked the tech if everything looked ok and her response was "I'm not allowed to disclose anything". I hate that! It's my f***ing body!!!

Anyway, I have my doctor appointment scheduled for Friday, so I guess I'll find out then.

pp - sorry you're feeling so crappy. You too, DM - though the excitement of tomorrow must be helping make you feel a little better. I still have this horrible cough - it's going on 3 weeks now. I'm going to ask my doctor about it on Friday as well.

[zanacal]

DM - I'm sorry you're feeling poorly, I hope your good news tomorrow will be a distraction! I'm going to have to try ad stay up extra late so I can read your news as soon as you post it!

Mocha - That's just ugh that they wouldn't tell you what they saw on the u/s. I'm sorry your HPT was still positive too. {hugs}

Tweedle - I'm happy the bleeding has stopped, let us know how your midwife appt goes!

PP - I'm sorry you're having a rough time. I love hearing your food plans for Thanksgiving because I honestly have no idea what half the dishes are! Do you eat similarly for Christmas?

Flava - I really hope you get that BFP. Thank you for always making me smile - you're turning in to a 'feeler' too hey?!

Princess - I can't wait to hear about your scan! Exciting :D

AFM - I just went on to the ultrasound website and there were appointments available that weren't there before so I've phoned and left a message asking if I can change my appointment to Thursday 8th December, in just over 2 weeks. Eek! My nausea has made a return these past couple of days when it's been gone for the past couple of weeks - what's that all about?!

[Indira]

Hey ladies - I had the u/s today but I don't have any news. I asked the tech if everything looked ok and her response was "I'm not allowed to disclose anything". I hate that! It's my f***ing body!!!

Sorry I don´t belong on this thread but just had to say that that is the most ridiculous thing ever! She is looking inside your body and with you present and then she won´t tell you what she is seeing?? That is just incredible. Even if she´s not allowed, come on, a little bit of sensitivity and empathy..sorry about that mocha.

[Mochagirl]

I know, Indira - it's so frustrating! Last week when I was there literally hours after my m/c, they were so insensitive. The tech never even once acknowledged the emotional pain I was in with an 'I'm sorry' or anything - she just chastised me for not having a full bladder (well, excuse me but 1/2 hour before the appt I was on the toilet passing a baseball-sized clot, so keeping my bladder full was the last thing on my mind)! I miss the days of my twin pregnancy, when I had weekly u/s in the hospital, and they had two monitors - one facing the tech and one facing the patient so I could watch the whole thing. At the clinic I go to here they don't even let you see the screen until the very end of your appointment (for pregnancy u/s - there was no need for me to see the screen today, of course).

[DoulaMama]

DM - I'm sorry you're feeling poorly, I hope your good news tomorrow will be a distraction! I'm going to have to try ad stay up extra late so I can read your news as soon as you post it!

AFM - I just went on to the ultrasound website and there were appointments available that weren't there before so I've phoned and left a message asking if I can change my appointment to Thursday 8th December, in just over 2 weeks. Eek! My nausea has made a return these past couple of days when it's been gone for the past couple of weeks - what's that all about?!
Z- I think with the time difference it'll be 10:15pm there when I post...I'm going to come on right away and let everyone know!! Eeeekkk!!!!

AND OMG!!!! That would be so frickin awesome if you got in, in 2 weeks!!!!! You'll be 16w...same time that B saw her little girl so hopefully everything is obvious!!! I'm just so excited for you!!! Oh and I keep getting weird, nauseous moments as well. It's not very nice. Once it was gone with the boys....it was gone. Never to return. This entire pregnancy has been so different from the start. FX'd it's a girlie sign!!!


Hey ladies - I had the u/s today but I don't have any news. I asked the tech if everything looked ok and her response was "I'm not allowed to disclose anything". I hate that! It's my f***ing body!!!

Anyway, I have my doctor appointment scheduled for Friday, so I guess I'll find out then.

pp - sorry you're feeling so crappy. You too, DM - though the excitement of tomorrow must be helping make you feel a little better. I still have this horrible cough - it's going on 3 weeks now. I'm going to ask my doctor about it on Friday as well.
Thank you Mocha:) I hope it goes away soon for you too. It's so annoying....
I am seriously peeved for you right now. The description of your u/s experience while you were miscarrying is just horrific. I can't imagine being treated like that. I am so sorry that you had to put up with that heartless b!tch. What a joke our system is. Where are the care providers with compassion??? I know she's not technically a care provider but she works with mama's on a daily basis and surely sees many babies without heartbeats or threatened m/c's on a regular basis. She should change her job. I hope you get some good news on Friday(((HUGS))) Lots of Love~~~~~and healthy thoughts~~~coming your way. xoxo

Sorry I don´t belong on this thread but just had to say that that is the most ridiculous thing ever! She is looking inside your body and with you present and then she won´t tell you what she is seeing?? That is just incredible. Even if she´s not allowed, come on, a little bit of sensitivity and empathy..sorry about that mocha.
What are you talkin about!!! Of course you belong on this thread!!!! Did I congratulate you??? I'm so sorry if I haven't! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! PLease join us! This is just a chat thread for all of us preggos!!!! xo

[Mochagirl]

Z - that's very exciting - I hope you get your earlier scan date!

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- This is what I've found so far....This is taken from my herbal book for childbearing women- By Susan Weed(a well known herbalist).
So, for fertility:
Nettle leaf and Red Raspberry leaf are 2 great herbs to take. Nettle is a uterine tonic and nourisher-it strengthens kidneys and adrenals which really helps balance your hormonal system. I take these 2 herbs(tea form) from about 20w on in pregnancy. They are fantastic at toning the uterus in pregnancy as well as increasing vit K(which helps a ton with PP bleeding after birth and having Vit K in your breastmilk for baby). One or more cups a day.
Red Rasp. tea is also a uterine tonic and has some calcium in it to aid in fertility.
Red Clover leaves are probably the most useful herb for fertility but may be harder to find. The have more minerals than the other 2 herbs, but it's better at getting the uterus ready for a baby and restoring hormones.
Cal/Mag-They are thought to be the 2 most important minerals affecting a woman's ability to conceive and maintain a pregnancy.
Vit E- 500iu is said to have a dramatic effect on the reproductive system of both men and women.

I also have a fantastic m/c brew that Susan uses(stops m/c). It has been used by hundreds of women and is said to be extremely useful for stopping m/c's that are not associated with chromosomal defects. If anyone wants it I'll type it out for you:)

Let me know if you need any more info on the above herbs. xoxo Julie

[Inglewood]

I'm excited too DM - every day I look for your siggy to see how long we have to wait!

I'm sorry I'm a bit absent at the moment, this nub sh!t is doing my head in!!

SNAP!!! driving me so mad that I even re-posted more pics on Ig for nub guesses, 8/8 said Girl, but I still doubt it.... wish I could know NOW!! lol xx

[Mochagirl]

Thanks DM - I'll look into all those herbs. I'm drinking 2 cups of raspberry leaf tea a day, and it not only helped my bleeding stop, but it's helping my cough a bit! If I decide to drink nettle leaf tea too should I drink 2 cups of that in addition to the two cups of raspberry leaf tea?

The cal/mag thing worries me - obviously I'm getting very little calcium on the LE diet...should I drop that part of the sway and start taking cal/mag again? At least if I took my cal/mag in pill form I could avoid the increase in protein an increase in dairy products would mean.

[Inglewood]

HI all had lots to catch up and baby brain has made me forget half of it already!! lol Had a terrible tummy bug the past 2 days, running to the loo and vomiting....ended up at doc's for anti-sickness tabs as I couldn't bare it anymore, called the doc who insisted I go in (that was fun) and get my BP checked. He said I looked 'green' but Bp was ok and gave me electrolyte re-balance drinks! YUCK!! Feeling better today thankfully as I was due to have Root canal treatment at 1pm and have waited 2mths for the appt. Better tonight thankfully! although every muscle aches from all thw wretching and vomiting.... I thought my MS was bad!!! It was so bad I missed ds1's lazer quest birthday party! :) Luckily his actual b'day was sat, so we had a good day then and a meal (so doc wondered if food poisoning). So poor Dh and my mum had a troop of boys to look after!! x

DM, I WILL be up as late as I have to be to hear ur girly news!!!!! FX

Mocha, so sorry to hear about the US tech, how insenstive! Betcha she's not a mother!! Hope ur ok? x

Hello to everyone else...baby brain and the tail end of this bug fuzzing my mind... xx

[DoulaMama]

Thanks DM - I'll look into all those herbs. I'm drinking 2 cups of raspberry leaf tea a day, and it not only helped my bleeding stop, but it's helping my cough a bit! If I decide to drink nettle leaf tea too should I drink 2 cups of that in addition to the two cups of raspberry leaf tea?

The cal/mag thing worries me - obviously I'm getting very little calcium on the LE diet...should I drop that part of the sway and start taking cal/mag again? At least if I took my cal/mag in pill form I could avoid the increase in protein an increase in dairy products would mean.

OK...so I just took a look in the appendix at the back of the book. They give you herbal sources for all the minerals and vits you need. The one that stands out(and I have used it throughout pregnancy 2x now) is Alfalfa. Alfalfa has lots of calcium, magnesium and Vit E as well as many other great things in it(Vit B12, Vit C, Vit K and Iron).If it were me and I was scared of adding food sources...I would add this before a Cal/Mag supplement. You'll be able to absorb it WAY better. It comes in tea form but I prefer the alfalfa tablets. Cheap and easy to find in your health food store. Go for organic if you can. I was told by my herbalist to start slowly. Take 1 per meal, 3x a day and then up it to 2 a day about 2 weeks after starting. I take it throughout pregnancy and by the time 35w hits I'm taking about 9 tablets a day. I don't take prenatals very often and I find that alfalfa does a great job along with my Flouradix, Vit D and Cod Liver Oil. Let me know if you need more info. I have a fantastic article on Alfalfa written by a herbalist/midwife in Ohio:) xoxo

ETA- The alfalfa will also really help with the recent blood loss as well(HUGS)as the iron is easily absorbed.

[Mochagirl]

Thanks again, DM - I'll definitely look into alfalfa!

[DoulaMama]

Thanks again, DM - I'll definitely look into alfalfa!

Don't know if you saw my edit to my last post...alfalfa is also great for returning iron levels to normal:) xo

[DoulaMama]

HI all had lots to catch up and baby brain has made me forget half of it already!! lol Had a terrible tummy bug the past 2 days, running to the loo and vomiting....ended up at doc's for anti-sickness tabs as I couldn't bare it anymore, called the doc who insisted I go in (that was fun) and get my BP checked. He said I looked 'green' but Bp was ok and gave me electrolyte re-balance drinks! YUCK!! Feeling better today thankfully as I was due to have Root canal treatment at 1pm and have waited 2mths for the appt. Better tonight thankfully! although every muscle aches from all thw wretching and vomiting.... I thought my MS was bad!!! It was so bad I missed ds1's lazer quest birthday party! :) Luckily his actual b'day was sat, so we had a good day then and a meal (so doc wondered if food poisoning). So poor Dh and my mum had a troop of boys to look after!! x

DM, I WILL be up as late as I have to be to hear ur girly news!!!!! FX

Mocha, so sorry to hear about the US tech, how insenstive! Betcha she's not a mother!! Hope ur ok? x

Hello to everyone else...baby brain and the tail end of this bug fuzzing my mind... xx

OMG you have a root canal appt! You poor girl!!! xoxo I'm sorry about your illness:( That totally sucks:( I know all about that feeling. I had a nasty flu while pregnant with DS3 and Ipuked for 12hrs straight and had to have 3 bags of IV fluid in the hospital. It was awful...especially since it took her 10 mins to find a vein and I HATE needles....ick. I hope that you're back to normal soon!


I'm feeling a bit nervous with all the stalkers now!!! :rofl: Come on vagina shot!!! Woot woot!!

[zanacal]

Poor you Inglewood - and root canal surgery on top of it all, how awful!

[Inglewood]

Thanks ladies!! Feeling so much better tonight, going to try some proper food tomorrow, today been a cereal and digestive biscuit day! So excited for DM.....

[DoulaMama]

Thanks DM - I'll look into all those herbs. I'm drinking 2 cups of raspberry leaf tea a day, and it not only helped my bleeding stop, but it's helping my cough a bit! If I decide to drink nettle leaf tea too should I drink 2 cups of that in addition to the two cups of raspberry leaf tea?

The cal/mag thing worries me - obviously I'm getting very little calcium on the LE diet...should I drop that part of the sway and start taking cal/mag again? At least if I took my cal/mag in pill form I could avoid the increase in protein an increase in dairy products would mean.

Sorry! Totally forgot to answer this question. Yes, you would drink 1-2 cups of both kinds:) You can continue taking both through pregnancy as well. I drink 1 cup RRLT daily throughout:)

[Mochagirl]

I actually quite like raspberry leaf tea - I was worried it would have a bitter or medicinal taste, but it's very mellow and tastes more like real tea than many other herbals I've had. I've come to look forward to my afternoon and evening cup.

[Mochagirl]

Oh, and after doing some quick searching it looks like alfalfa might sway blue. I'm trying my best to balance a healthy diet with a pink sway, so if that's the case I might avoid it for now. Can any blue swayers here verify this? DM - were you taking it when you conceived your little pink bean? (and yes, I would be completely gobsmacked if this bean turns out to be anything but pink tomorrow - I can't wait to see your announcement!)

[DoulaMama]

I haven't taken it before pregnancy at all. I start once I am pregnant. You could maybe go that route??? Maybe just the teas until your BFP and then add all those great healthy vits/minerals after:) I LOVE RRLT :HH: I drink it during my period for cramping/blood loss, it's great. The Nettle is definitely more medicinal. I can only handle one cup per day. It doesn't have all the nutrients that Clover/Alfalfa have so it may be worth taking with the sway. It has a lot of Iron/Vit K which would help with a sticky bean:) xoxo

[DoulaMama]

Oh and thank you about the pink bean comment!! :HH: I have it stuck in my head that it's a girl so I don't even want to think about the possibility that it's not. I'll be a complete mess if it's not :tissue: Makes me wish I hadn't seen that damn nub at all...

[Inglewood]

I drank galleons of Raspberry Leaf tea when pg with Ds1, near the end to bring on Labour, it's widely used here in the UK for that. I loved it too! Tastes fab hot or cold. x

[DoulaMama]

Oh and about the Cal/Mag thing....I was doing the opposite of what people do here it seems. I am an avid milk drinker and cheese eater but chose to drink/eat less during those few weeks that I was on a diet change. Instead, I ate full fat yoghurt(think 8%!!!) 150g once a day. I am not a yoghurt eater so thought maybe the change would help...who knows!

[Mochagirl]

I haven't taken it before pregnancy at all. I start once I am pregnant. You could maybe go that route??? Maybe just the teas until your BFP and then add all those great healthy vits/minerals after:)

Sounds like a plan :).

[Glittergirl]

Came on really quick to check on your gender scan DM! Not sure what the time difference is so thought I'd take a look.

I was having doubts again about my u/s--my cousin's wife told me about a mutual friend of ours who was told girl at first u/s then boy and ended up w a boy so that freaked me out a bit again....but it turns out the first one was the nt scan that she was told girl...couldhave been a really early shot too like 11 weeks. Anyway, I currently don't have baby stuff to obsess about so I went ahead and posted my u/s on babycenter and the u/s tech watched the video and said that without a doubt it's all girl. DH wants me to get over this doubt thing for now, that, along with like 5 people responding girl (no boy guesses) on that site put my mind at ease. I just don't wanna hear anymore wrong u/s stories IYKWIM! Sorry to keep venting about gender on here but I know you ladies understand how it is to keep doubting. DH does not want to hear it anymore LOL! He's like if it's wrong, it's wrong what are you gonna do about it now--it is what it is so just enjoy this pregnancy--I think he's right LOL!

Can't wait to hear your good news in the morning DM!!!!

[zanacal]

Woo hoo DM, your big day is here! I'm so excited to have confirmation of your baby girl :D

I completely understand the obsession Glittergirl - I've already decided that whatever we hear at the gender scan we won't tell anyone and we'll wait to see if we hear the same thing at our 20 week scan!! You so have your baby girl baking in there though :D

My scan is now confirmed 8th December - just 2 weeks to wait (gulp!). I'm glad it's not so close to Christmas now, I don't want to be glum for Christmas!

[Glittergirl]

Wanted to check in before work and see if you got the news DM! So excited and totally stalking now!
I know how you feel Zan! We weren't gonna tell anyone at first and well....now everyone knows :) It still feels weird to say girl :) when they ask.

So Zan you're the next one after DM to find out right? This is awesome cause I get to obsess every few weeks!!!! I will SOOO be stalking you next :) You will hear girl too! I looked at your scan and nothing resembles possible boy parts and if what I see on there is a nub...then that is for sure flat!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh and thank you about the pink bean comment!! :HH: I have it stuck in my head that it's a girl so I don't even want to think about the possibility that it's not. I'll be a complete mess if it's not :tissue: Makes me wish I hadn't seen that damn nub at all...

Good Luck today!!!!! Can't wait to hear :)

[zanacal]

Princesssarah is next Glittergirl - it's a busy couple of weeks!!

[DoulaMama]

Thanks for all the excitement, Gals!!!! Now I'm starting to get the butterflies!!! A liitle over 6hrs and I'll know for sure!!!!
Z- 2 weeks is gonna FLY BY!!! I will be counting down the days!!! xo

[princesssarah34]

Ok DM we are stalking you!! :bigsmile:
I am getting anxious just 3 more days until we find out! I am pretty sure it is another boy...just feels that way this time. I will be surprised if I hear girl. I know there is always 50/50 chance but I am feeling boy. And I am feeling ok with it....I have a ton of boy stuff that I saved for my Evan and didn't get to use...and now I can. Otherwise I will need to completely overhaul what i have for a girl! :nails:

[DoulaMama]

Ok DM we are stalking you!! :bigsmile:
I am getting anxious just 3 more days until we find out! I am pretty sure it is another boy...just feels that way this time. I will be surprised if I hear girl. I know there is always 50/50 chance but I am feeling boy. And I am feeling ok with it....I have a ton of boy stuff that I saved for my Evan and didn't get to use...and now I can. Otherwise I will need to completely overhaul what i have for a girl! :nails:

LOL! Stalk away! Cause I'll be stalking you in 3 days time!!!! Bahahahahaha! ;) I'm thinking PINK for you Princess:HH: I hope I'm right!!!

[DoulaMama]

I might be a bit more nervous than I thought...I just puked all my lunch up....ugh. Less than 2 hrs now and it's killing me!!!

[zanacal]

Oh no DM, you poor thing. I think we'll all have tummies full of butterflies when it's our turn too! 2 hours - yay!

Princess - only 3 days, so excited for you!

[Out of the Blue]

30 min away!!! (if I can still do math) YAY! :cheer:

[Out of the Blue]

I might be a bit more nervous than I thought...I just puked all my lunch up....ugh. Less than 2 hrs now and it's killing me!!!

Awww...poor thing...:sad:

[DoulaMama]

Well, I'm just parking and about to head over to the u/s place:) I'll let you know right away, Gals!!! xoxo

[ynwa]

i am stalking now,hope all is pink,fx,not going to log off ha

[Mochagirl]

Good luck, DM - can't wait to hear the good news :HH:

[lemon2012]

HEY DOULAMAMA!!!
I am thinking about you!
Yours was the surprise pregnancy right!!!
A 3 day cut off right???
One time attempt?
Sounds promising!!!

I am in Ontario, I forgot about the time change...so it is only 245 pm....good luck!
Be happy:) COME ON PINKNESS!!!!!
I really am excited for you:)

[DoulaMama]

IT'S A GIRL!!!!!!! AAAAHHHHHH!!!!~TEARS~

[Indira]

Ah Doulamama, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Out of the Blue]

OH DOULA!!! I'm sitting hear crying tears of joy for you. :HH: LET THE PINK PARTY BEGIN!!!!!

[Mum2boys]

Congratulations!!!!!! So happy to hear you definitely have a little girl cooking in there!!!

[nuthinbutpink]

Wonderful news! Enjoy HER!

[CapricornAquarius]

Thats so wonderful! Congrats baby girl, yay!

[Mochagirl]

OF COURSE it's a girl! Congratulations, DM :HH:

[3Pink1Blue]

Woohoo!!! Congrats Hun, so happy for you!!!

[zanacal]

Oh Julie, I'm crying too! We all knew it anyway but to get the official confirmation is wonderful. I'm so happy for you :D I can go to bed now :D I hope you have photos for us later!!

[Glittergirl]

Yay Doula!!!!! I am SOOOO happy for you. I knew that was a girl you're having! Can't wait to hear about the details of your u/s session!!!!! WoooooHooooo just sitting here screaming for you!!!!!

[tweedledeedum]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations! Soooo happy for you!

[Inglewood]

WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! DM, just knew it! Fantastic, thought of you alot and just popped on to check!! Oh, did you go buy something PINK??? xx

[lemon2012]

Seriously, the biggest smile just came over my face!!! For real! A girl!
I am so happy for you!
As I am so estactic for you, I can only imagine my own happiness if I found out girl!
I am totally smiling here in Ontario....lucky lucky!!!!!!!
I hope healthy and everyone is well...we need details!!!!!!!!

[Flava]

DD- wow a precious baby girl!!!! So awesome for you!

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[HopeandDreamG]

IT'S A GIRL!!!!!!! AAAAHHHHHH!!!!~TEARS~

CONGRATS!!!! THATS WONDERFUL...just came on to see! Will you tell people in your "real life" or keep it to yourself???

[DoulaMama]

Thank you so much for all the congratulations!!!! It means so much to me to have so many amazing ladies cheer me on!!!

To answer questions...I got one photo...a potty shot- I'll post it later tonight:) It was a real quick scan- think 5 mins or less. Didn't see anything but the bum end of baby which is what I wanted:) The tech said after seeing the 3 lines over and over and also going into 3D to take a look, that she is 100% certain that this little one is a GIRL :bigsmile: I could see that it was a girl too...and after looking at u/s's for the past 5 weeks I feel like a tech!!!! LOL!
I know it was pretty obvious in my nub shots but to confirm at 19w is exactly what I needed for peace of mind:HH:

I haven't bought PINK yet...although I'm going to start a quilt for baby and a few odd sewing patterns! Yay! Girlie patterns here I come!!! I have to be careful(which is why I just have the one pic) buying stuff because other than you guys, 2 very close girlfriends know....and that's it! My husband has no idea that I had this scan! It's a good thing I'm great at keeping secrets! ;) He's really into the surprise at birth and I want him to have that still. I can't wait to see his face when SHE'S born!!!! OMG...I'm crying again....:tissue:

Thank you again to everyone! It was so awesome to read all your sweet comments when I got home :HH: I so hope that everyone gets that "OMG moment".... Z and Princess.....I can't wait for your scans! I can actually, officially send PINK DUST now!!!!! Eeeeeek!!!

[lemon2012]

WOW, doula,,,,this is amazing!
Will you ever spill it to DH???
I am not sure I could keep it a secret!

Congrats again......!!!!!!!!!!!
What a special day for you!

[begonia]

Congrats DM! Thrilled for you :)

[pinkin2011]

A HUGE congats to you Doula when I just read what you wrote about when your husband sees when SHE is born made me cry . Just fantastic news like winning tattslotto really!

[sjengle]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

[princesssarah34]

SUPER YAY DM!!!!!:cheer: Just logged into see your update!!! Yay! So happy for you!

So now everyone will be stalking me I take it....oh the pressure!! :bigsmile:

[DoulaMama]

Thank you!!!! I'm just sitting here in some sort of weird state....I know for sure now but it's a little surreal. Did you find this GG? I feel a little detached, I guess you could say. Maybe it's because I have to hide it...who knows. Anyway, I've been looking at girly sewing patterns and I'm absolutely thrilled that I get to make something purple!!!!! AAAAHHHH!
For anyone that wants really cute, handmade baby items...go on Etsy.com It's a hugely popular, handmade market place online and I LOVE IT! I do a lot of Christmas shopping on there to support WAHM's and small businesses. Not to mention...the cutest baby stuff you've ever seen!!!! I'm already looking at the girly headbands with feathers etc for our newborn shoot! Eeeeekkk!

Princess....2.5 days!!!! I'm so excited to hear your news!!!! Girlie dust to you, Mama!!!! :HH:

[Flava]

DD- you reeeeeeeeeeellllllllllly must hide all the girl stuff then from DH! You know what I wish i have this with my DH (only a boy lol but never gonna happen) it's going to be great to see his face when his girl comes out for sure!!! keep that joy for him!

[Flava]

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[Sunset]

just saw your news DM, congratulations!!!!!!! :D :D

[Mochagirl]

There's no way I could resist shouting my news from the mountaintops if I were you, DM - you are a very strong woman to be able to keep it a secret from dh! Congrats again - I just hope I can experience joy like yours sometime in the not too far future.

[shouldihope?]

DM- so happy for you. Congrats!!! How exciting!!!!

Happy Thanksgiving all!!!

[DoulaMama]

Flava- It's been hidden!!!My hubby honestly wouldn't think twice about finding a girl clothes stash because I've gone out and purchased girly clothing every single time I found out I was pregnant...silly, I know....I have about 5 or 6 sleepers in pink/purple that I fell in love with and had to bring home and he knows that I did this....so if he were to find a stash of stuff I'm sure he would just feel sorry for me. My hubby really is hoping that this one is our daughter. He sees how hard it's been on me, every time.

Sunset- Thank you!!!! xoxo

Mocha- Thank you, again!! I want to scream it from the rooftops so desperately!!! My hubby LOVES the surprise so much and I have found out before(twice!) and kept it a secret from everyone. This time I know he'll be shocked! I want to see his face!! :bigsmile:
( I also want to protect my boys and this baby from the ridiculous comments that I KNOW will be said once they know it's a girl. My third boy wasn't even celebrated by family-mainly IL's(my mom was the only one that was happy for us, and would happy, no matter what it was)...and I know it's going to be so different this time seeing as this will be the first Granddaughter/Niece in our family on both sides. I feel so bad for my boys when they hear those comments:(

Shouldihope- Thanks, Hun!!! xoxox

[DoulaMama]

So here is the one photo that I got :bigsmile: It's not super clear but I'm feeling very positive that is 100% GIRL after the u/s yesterday.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/Tulafina/IMG_0882.jpg

[zanacal]

Can I just vent (it's nothing to do with babies!) - I just heard the completely shit news that my friend's daughter who has cancer (do you remember me saying they only found it when she had her c-section?) has discovered that it's an incredibly rare cancer. Nobody has every survived it in this country and only 1 woman in the US. She's in her early twenties and has a newborn baby - and she's going out to buy her school shoes because she doesn't think she'll ever get to do it otherwise. I'm so heartbroken for her and her family.

[zanacal]

Sorry DM, we posted at the same time! The picture looks pretty clear to me :D

Btw, I need a pep talk. I've started worrying about something happening to me during labour and wondering if it's selfish of me to want another baby and put myself in that position when I have my three gorgeous boys to be here for. I know it's unlikely and I remember having similar fears with DS2 (as it happens it was him who was poorly and not me!). I'm remembering those contractions near the end when I feel like I'm going to die!!

[DoulaMama]

Can I just vent (it's nothing to do with babies!) - I just heard the completely shit news that my friend's daughter who has cancer (do you remember me saying they only found it when she had her c-section?) has discovered that it's an incredibly rare cancer. Nobody has every survived it in this country and only 1 woman in the US. She's in her early twenties and has a newborn baby - and she's going out to buy her school shoes because she doesn't think she'll ever get to do it otherwise. I'm so heartbroken for her and her family.
OMG. I am so sorry. I cannot imagine the pain in her heart ~tears~ How incredibly heart breaking.

[Mochagirl]

Z - I'm sooooo sorry about your friend's daughter. That poor little baby having to grow up without a Mom. It makes me want to cry too, and I've never met this woman :(.

Oh, and I'm sure your labour fears are normal. I think if I do ever get pregnant again I'm going to be a lot more scared this time than last time now that I know what natural birth feels like. And if you had a traumatic birth, I'm sure it's doubly likely you'll be scared. Just remember that every baby is different, and I'm sure after having 3 babies your body's just going to know what to do when the time comes and everything's going to work out fine. :HH:

[DoulaMama]

Sorry DM, we posted at the same time! The picture looks pretty clear to me :D

Btw, I need a pep talk. I've started worrying about something happening to me during labour and wondering if it's selfish of me to want another baby and put myself in that position when I have my three gorgeous boys to be here for. I know it's unlikely and I remember having similar fears with DS2 (as it happens it was him who was poorly and not me!). I'm remembering those contractions near the end when I feel like I'm going to die!!

A pep talk!!? You came to the right place! LOL

Z- Having NO fears at all surrounding birth would be strange, IMO;) It's a healthy part of birth. We fear the unknown. It makes us respect life a little bit more, knowing that this could be the end. BUT....You have more chance dying on your way to a prenatal appt. in a car crash, than you would if you gave birth by yourself, in a rice patty with NO help. :bigsmile: You will be amazing. The contractions can never be stronger than you, because they ARE you:) Giving birth is a normal, everyday occurrence around the world...it is a normal bodily function, like going poop. We(women) were designed to do it and as long as you trust in your body- it won't let you down. Eat well, get lots of exercise and rest, and have faith in you~ It'll be awesome Z :D

[zanacal]

Perfect DM :D Now if you could just make me a track for my ipod saying that over and over again I'm sorted!! (Although wish you hadn't mentioned car crashes, that's my biggest fear ever!). Have I ever mentioned what a worrier I am?! I get it from my mum!

It's almost 9pm and I have DS1 sat next to me because he feels poorly. Every evening for a while he's been telling me he has tummy ache. He's eating fine and seems fine the rest of the time - but I'm swinging between thinking it's nothing and wondering whether it's something terrible. In the end I decided we'll go to the doctor's if he's still complaining on Monday.

[DoulaMama]

Perfect DM :D Now if you could just make me a track for my ipod saying that over and over again I'm sorted!! (Although wish you hadn't mentioned car crashes, that's my biggest fear ever!). Have I ever mentioned what a worrier I am?! I get it from my mum!
ACK! I'm so sorry! It's my biggest fear too...This would be the reason I'm moving to Victoria BC in a few years....I HATE the snow and I'm terrified of driving in it! I'm the biggest chicken!!! I'll not mention that again....
It's almost 9pm and I have DS1 sat next to me because he feels poorly. Every evening for a while he's been telling me he has tummy ache. He's eating fine and seems fine the rest of the time - but I'm swinging between thinking it's nothing and wondering whether it's something terrible. In the end I decided we'll go to the doctor's if he's still complaining on Monday.
Good idea:) xoxo I hope he feels better soon~ How old is he??

[DoulaMama]

Perfect DM :D Now if you could just make me a track for my ipod saying that over and over again I'm sorted!! (Although wish you hadn't mentioned car crashes, that's my biggest fear ever!). Have I ever mentioned what a worrier I am?! I get it from my mum!

It's almost 9pm and I have DS1 sat next to me because he feels poorly. Every evening for a while he's been telling me he has tummy ache. He's eating fine and seems fine the rest of the time - but I'm swinging between thinking it's nothing and wondering whether it's something terrible. In the end I decided we'll go to the doctor's if he's still complaining on Monday.

I have the complete hypnobirthing course- DVD's, everything....do you want me to send it to you? I would love to, if it would help:) :HH:

[zanacal]

He's 6.

[DoulaMama]

He's 6.

Hmmm... that's tough.....I have a very sneaky 5.5yo who would milk that for all he's got! LOL And again, you just never know...I do hope that he's fine~ xoxo Fingers crossed it's just bedtime "tummy problems":)

[zanacal]

DH and I were just having the very same conversation! He's a big worrier so perhaps he's worrying about something. We'll give it the weekend and take it from there. Thanks for the advice x

[DoulaMama]

Z- not sure if you saw my above post about the hypnobirthing stuff- awesome course for fears etc and relaxation:)Think about it!

[zanacal]

Sorry I didn't see it! I had some hypnobirthing sessions before I had DS3 and have the CD here somewhere. Thanks so much for offering though. I will get in the right frame of mind eventually, I always do. I had some great books but I lent them to somebody and never got them back (grr!). Ina May Gaskin - that was her name (the author not the woman I lent my books to!).

[DoulaMama]

I have all of her books:) :HH: They are great!!! I listened to her speak 2 years ago at a Midwifery conference:)

[lemon2012]

Hey Zan!
I was really scared in labour with DS2..I was not prepared at all. I really feel when I am prepared for things I do much better. You have time!
Poor little DS....you know they say when little ones are more needy and attached it means girl:)

I am really sorry about your friend. It is incredibly sad and I cannot imagine being in that situation. I guess you do what you can and you only are given what you are able to deal with.

One of your posts made me hear your English accent...lol!
COOL!

DM are you still on cloud nine!!!!

It is almost December.....any BFPS yet?
Any births?
Any TTCs???

I posted on the other site my complete confusion with when or if I ovulated. It is crazy and stressful. I guess I can keep dtd but I am still hung up on timing...and I started to relax big time with the diet!
DM, do you mind if you tell me how old you are? I ask bc we dtd on cd 13 thinking it was o plus, but now I think it might have been o and then I thought maybe I haven't! So, I wonder if I wait and o tomorrow on cd 16 it would be too late considering my age. I think so! 3.5 day is too far away I guess.

Take care and Happy Turkey Day to the Americans!

[DoulaMama]

Hey Zan!
I was really scared in labour with DS2..I was not prepared at all. I really feel when I am prepared for things I do much better. You have time!
Poor little DS....you know they say when little ones are more needy and attached it means girl:)

I am really sorry about your friend. It is incredibly sad and I cannot imagine being in that situation. I guess you do what you can and you only are given what you are able to deal with.

One of your posts made me hear your English accent...lol!
COOL!

DM are you still on cloud nine!!!!

It is almost December.....any BFPS yet?
Any births?
Any TTCs???

I posted on the other site my complete confusion with when or if I ovulated. It is crazy and stressful. I guess I can keep dtd but I am still hung up on timing...and I started to relax big time with the diet!
DM, do you mind if you tell me how old you are? I ask bc we dtd on cd 13 thinking it was o plus, but now I think it might have been o and then I thought maybe I haven't! So, I wonder if I wait and o tomorrow on cd 16 it would be too late considering my age. I think so! 3.5 day is too far away I guess.

Take care and Happy Turkey Day to the Americans!

Yes! Cloud 9 for sure!!! I am 29...30 in Feb. I think that a 3 day cut-off would have more to do with your DH's sperm than you;) I have a 40yo hubby and his little swimmers lasted 3 whole days! I'm sure you have a great chance Lemon!!! GL!!! xoxoxo

[Inglewood]

Quick "hello" before I go to bed, busy nightshift!! Not in tonight thankfully! School xmas craft fair instead.

Z, your poor friend that is so sad. Working in Palliative care I hear lots of sad stories, but that's gotta be the sadest I've heard for a long time. Where is her Cancer? Poor wee baby.

[tweedledeedum]

Z - your poor friend. I cannot imagine the pain she must be going through. What a hard thing to deal with.

DM - i can't believe you didn't tell your dh about your scan! He is going to be so excited!

Hello to everyone else!

I am getting nervous about birth again too. I am mostly nervous about the pain. I had a great natural birth last time but the labour was so intense near the end! I'm not sure if I'm ready to do it again. Although I felt so high after the birth for weeks - so I can look forward to that, I guess. I love Ina May Gaskin too - she has some great books.

Do you guys think getting the hypnobabies is worth it? I didn't use it last time but it sounds so nice and relaxing!

[Flava]

DM-great pic! That's a girl for sure!!!
Z-im so sorry about your friend this is so sad...

[Flava]

For me I think AF is coming very soon so that's it for me.

[zanacal]

Z, your poor friend that is so sad. Working in Palliative care I hear lots of sad stories, but that's gotta be the sadest I've heard for a long time. Where is her Cancer? Poor wee baby.

She has a large cell neuroendocrine carcinoma of the uterine cervix. They discovered it when her baby was delivered by c-section, though she's now experiencing some nasty symptoms so they likely would have discovered it about now anyway. I'm so in awe of you doing the job you do, just amazing.

[Glittergirl]

Can I just vent (it's nothing to do with babies!) - I just heard the completely shit news that my friend's daughter who has cancer (do you remember me saying they only found it when she had her c-section?) has discovered that it's an incredibly rare cancer. Nobody has every survived it in this country and only 1 woman in the US. She's in her early twenties and has a newborn baby - and she's going out to buy her school shoes because she doesn't think she'll ever get to do it otherwise. I'm so heartbroken for her and her family.

OMG I'm so sorry--I think that is one of my biggest fears....not being around to watch my kids grow. So sorry ((HUGS)) how is her family handling this?

[princesssarah34]

Z-I am so sorry to hear such sad news for your friend! I worried everyday too about my boys not having me here for them!:tissue:

Just popped on to see what everyone is up to........I have one more day and we will find out if this little on is pink or blue!!Totally wishing this day was over already!!:running:

[DoulaMama]

She has a large cell neuroendocrine carcinoma of the uterine cervix. They discovered it when her baby was delivered by c-section, though she's now experiencing some nasty symptoms so they likely would have discovered it about now anyway. I'm so in awe of you doing the job you do, just amazing.

OMG:( I truly hope she fights the odds. What a horrible situation for all:( I'm sorry, Z :tissue:

And I second Z's comment, Inglewood....:HH: xoxo

[DoulaMama]

Princess- one more day!!!!!! I'm so excited for you!!!!! What time zone are you in and when is your appt???

[zanacal]

Yes, what time Princess? How are you feeling? I'm already imagining the moment when I find out - and it's so exciting when they say 'it's a girl' and then I have to make sure I play through in my mind them saying 'it's a boy' too! I'll be pleased for the wondering to stop, either way!!

I woke up in the night for a wee (one of several times!) and when I got back in to bed I had a really sore tummy that I just couldn't get rid of. It was fine this morning but I had it again this evening and I've no idea what it is. It's not cramping or round ligament pains, more of an ache or the feeling that I've just been kicked in the stomach. I led down on the sofa this evening when it happened again and I fell straight to sleep :D

[Inglewood]

She has a large cell neuroendocrine carcinoma of the uterine cervix. They discovered it when her baby was delivered by c-section, though she's now experiencing some nasty symptoms so they likely would have discovered it about now anyway. I'm so in awe of you doing the job you do, just amazing.

Your right it's a rare one, that's one I've never heard of before, been in my job for 8yrs. I hope she does fight the odds to become the 2nd person to recover! There are so so many new types of Carcinoma's, in parts of the body u would never think of having cancer, it's frightening to think about it for too long sometimes..... I'm thinking of her and her family. x

[Inglewood]

Princess, OMG tomorrow!!!! It's 9pm here, are we in front of you time wise?? think we are. What time is ur scan???

[zanacal]

I think we're behind Inglewood - would be nice to be ahead though wouldn't it?! Might be another late night for us tomorrow!

Thanks for everybody's kind words for my friend.

I must stop spending money on Christmas presents for the boys - I've gone way over the limits I set for myself and every time I turn the computer on I think of something else to order. Argh!

[Inglewood]

I think we're behind Inglewood - would be nice to be ahead though wouldn't it?! Might be another late night for us tomorrow!

Thanks for everybody's kind words for my friend.

I must stop spending money on Christmas presents for the boys - I've gone way over the limits I set for myself and every time I turn the computer on I think of something else to order. Argh!

Any ideas's for a 5yr old boy, I'm struggling as he doesn't ask for much and what he does ask for I wouldn't buy as he's too young/old for them. Stuff I KNOW he would get bored with easily....

Thanks for sorting out the time diff, I'm so easily confused! Yeah, will be up late stalking.... lots of ladies seem to be so lucky with swaying at the mo, makes me think the luck will run out soon, around my time to find out on 13th Dec! The no 13 is unlucky for some, prob me!! Does that all sound silly??? That's why finding out on tues would be better for me. Getting a bit anxious about finding out, need to know, but as the days get closer it gets more worrying. Sure alot of u ladies have experienced this recently....but, I've never found out the gender before with the boys and once I know, there is no going back, at least I can get on with my life full of 5 men and me!! arghh, even typing that seems mental! 5 males.....lol x

[DoulaMama]

Inglewood- I'm putting money on pink!!!!! xoxo Can't wait to hear how it goes!!!!

[zanacal]

I'm so convinced you won't need to consider what it's like having 5 males in the house (unlike me!!) - I hope I'm right!

My boys want everything they see advertised on telly! I like buying for DS3 because he's too little to tell me what he wants and he gets what I would like in my house and what I would like him to play with! DS1 is adamant he wants 'Stinky the Garbage Truck' which I think is too young for him - but we have younger children in the house and they have to share everything anyway. He also has a Kreo Transformer and lots of smaller things. Both the bigger boys love anything Lego or Playmobil - I just ordered a Playmobil advent calendar! DS2 just wants the Imaginext Batcave (I'm so not keen - just looks like a big hunk of grey plastic to me!) and it's out of stock absolutely everywhere. I managed to get the last one off the shelf in the toy shop! I've bought things they don't really want and that I'd probably get anyway just so they have more to unwrap - new duvet covers, a lego storage box, stickers for their bedroom wall etc. and they'll have pants and socks in their stocking because they didn't play with one of their stocking fillers last year!

[princesssarah34]

Well I am in California...so Pacific Standard time.......and my appt is at 11:30am tomorrow morning! Getting closer it is 3:30pm Friday here now.

Z I totally know how you feel with your boys wanting everything they see on TV...my 4yr old is always wanting something he just saw on TV!

[Inglewood]

Thanks ladies for ur +ve thoughts, they are appreciated xx
Z, I have +ve vibes for you, lots of mamma's with 3 boys having girls as their 4th at the mo...plus u did a great sway!

As for xmas, Ds1 is my easy one. Being 9 he knows what he would like and thinks about it more. He still believes in Santa (thankfully) and he's such a good kid that really doesn't ask for much, that when he does mention something I know he really does like it. He's asked for Nerf toys and The new Harry Potter dvd box set. Whereas my 5yr old wants EVERYTHING on TV! They aren't really lego lovers, although since we went to legoland they do play more with it. Wish they were as I Loved Lego as a kid and it's great! Ds2 has a Mini micro scooter and was thinking a buying the bigger one as they are so fab!!! but £70 or so!! Great u got the last Batcave! I'm going xmas shopping tom for the boys (pay day today!!!) and over the next week to get it all done. Got most of the neices/nephews, so then just the grandparents to go!

[zanacal]

Grandparents are even more difficult than the children! I got them both a photobook of the boys throughout the year but after that I'm stuck!

[Out of the Blue]

Just popping on to send Princess lots and lots of healthy PINK THOUGHTS !!!!!!!

I think it'll be about 3:30 p.m. where I am so I'll be thinking of you!!!


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[Mochagirl]

Oh yes, Princess - I'm stalking you today too. Good luck!

[zanacal]

Me too - I can't wait to find out this evening! I hope baby co-operates!

[Babymad]

Hi everyone,
Hope you dont mind if I say Hi :)
Just wanted to wish Princess GL and FX x
Yep i'll probably be joining the '5 males in my house' gang too ;)

Inglewood ~ I really think you've got two girlies too, would be very shocked to hear boys after your great 0+16 attempt :)
My 20 wk scan is on friday 13th Jan but the number 13 has always been lucky for me, not sure about mixing it with a friday though :)

Zanacal ~ Not long until your scan :) Really hope you hear pink :)

[princesssarah34]

Ok ladies....we are getting ready to leave for my appt. It is a 2 hour drive to the 3-d place! I will try to log on with my cell phone after I find out otherwise I will have to wait to update everyone until I get home this evening!

[Foxy]

Good luck Princess! xx

[Glittergirl]

Just wanna wish you loads of luck Princess! I have tons of family coming in today too, but I am really gonna try to get away for a few mins tonight and check to see your how your scan went. Sending loads of pink vibes your way--looks like there is a great pink streak going on this forum :)

I have not even started Xmas shopping yet. All of us siblings decided years ago to have it just for kids as far as gift giving...so I really just need to get all the kids in the family stuff. DS1 is a TOTAL lego addict, I got him the Black Pearl a few weeks ago and hid it in the garage....he's got a few other legos on his list but they are smaller. DS2 just turned 6 and he's into everything but he's so hard to shop for cause he really just plays with different things everyday. He's not like DS1 that has almost every set ever made. DS1 has this huge shelf in his room where he proudly displays the hundreds (not exaggerating) of sets he built--yet he plays with them too. DS3-well he's 3 so he's gonna be hard to shop for too cause like DS2 there isn't just something he's into...it changes daily.

[lemon2012]

GOOD LUCK ZAN AND PRINCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sunset]

Good luck Princess! thinking of you and sending pink dust your way!! x

[HopeandDreamG]

Good luck princess!!
Zanacal- R u going for a scan today too?

[zanacal]

No, mine's not for another 12 days!

Princess - I'm so desperate for your news, I hope you're ok x

[Inglewood]

princess, hope ur ok and scan went well? x

[Sunset]

stalking! :p

[Inglewood]

Hi everyone,
Hope you dont mind if I say Hi :)
Just wanted to wish Princess GL and FX x
Yep i'll probably be joining the '5 males in my house' gang too ;)

Inglewood ~ I really think you've got two girlies too, would be very shocked to hear boys after your great 0+16 attempt :)
My 20 wk scan is on friday 13th Jan but the number 13 has always been lucky for me, not sure about mixing it with a friday though :)

Zanacal ~ Not long until your scan :) Really hope you hear pink :)

Nice to hear 13 is lucky for some!!! You will be fine, fridays are GOOD days! I love fridays... start of the wkend can't be a bad day!! Lots of mammas having girls after 3 boys, so sure you and Z are gonna have big smiles soon!!

[lemon2012]

DM:
LOVE LOVE LOVE THE NAME!
Would you use Rosy for short? Or Rose.
I love the name Rose.
I am in Canada and it is not very common.
Very sweet!

tweedle dee
are you okay?
How was the us?

princess???

zan? 7 more days? how anxious are you????

So, I THINK I am 4 dpo
major salt fest tonight...I just can't take the sway stress.
I am having some wine, brie, chips and dip...
will this ruin next month? I have 4 more weeks to go before the next o right?

[Mochagirl]

lemon - the odd cheat here and there isn't going to hurt your sway and might even help it if it relaxes you. This time around I'm taking it really easy and eating non-diet foods when it's easier to do so. This weekend I'm visiting my Mom, and though I'm managing to keep vegetarian, I'm eating waaaay too much salt and protein (cheese curds - which I can't resist) and have even had a few snacks between meals. Come Monday when I'm home again I'll be back to the rice and pasta with a renewed energy since I've allowed myself a few treats and had a mini diet vacation. The one thing you should watch for since you're in the 2WW, though, is that you keep your blood sugar low - which means try your best not to snack between meals!

Oh, and Princess - I can't wait to hear how your scan went! I hope we hear from you soon!

[lemon2012]

Thanks mocha!!!!
Tonight,......all about relaxing. DH is done with swaying. Me too.
I am just not done with wanting a DD!!!!!

We are eating hors do'oevures tonight.
Kids are in tubs. Hopefully DH and I get to watch a movie!!!!
We don't ever go out:(
Also, I am hoping to dtd...jonas day. Ok, whatever, but I would be remiss if I did not even try....apparently I ovulated and dtd for boy zone.,....so, hey, might as well get one in there for girl jonas theory right!!!???
And, I need to relax...big time!
I am looking after my parents (parkinsons and liver disease) and we have not been out since July 16th....we saw Jimmy Buffet...lol, good times!

Thanks for the go ahead though,.,,,we need it sometimes.
You especially,.,.things ok?

Still waiting for princess...and can't wait for ZAN!!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Thanks for asking, lemon - I'm doing ok - just waiting for O or af, whichever decides to come first.

[princesssarah34]

Ok ladies....sorry for the wait but I could not log on with my cellphone...so I had to wait until I got home. Just got home!!
And I was right another little sweet baby boy!! I was a little disappointed and teary eyed in the bathroom after but really I am ok with it! I went to Babies R Us and pick out a new outfit and blanket in tan and browns (a little tired of blues and greens)!A girl would have been great...but I am a boy Mom I guess....but I do love it!!:HH:

[Mochagirl]

princess - I'm so sorry you didn't hear pink, but congratulations on a healthy baby boy!! Boy moms rock! :HH:

[DoulaMama]

I'm so sorry you didn't get to hear "pink", Princess. But like Mocha said, so happy to hear that your little Prince is doing well!!! I'm happy to hear that you're ok with it, too:D Your little man is so lucky to have you for a Mama:HH:

[lemon2012]

It is hard to hear....and no doubt you will have moments, but we have to think of the dear little boy.....he is not a girl but he loves you and needs you.
Take care princess.....and take care of yourself.
One day, you will no doubt think that you know why he is here and why you have him...and would not imagine life without him.
Take the tears though,....it is not easy to only have one gender. Some people just don't understand.
Give yourself something special.
Congrats on another baby!!!!!
It is a miracle!!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Princess~ sorry you didn't hear pink..and I agree with Mocha...boy moms ROCK!

[zanacal]

Thank goodness everything is ok - I had a little panic when there was no news! I'm sorry you didn't hear girl but many, many congratulations on what I'm sure will be a gorgeous little boy. Have you told your boys? I bet they're excited - mine would love another baby brother!!

[Babymad]

Many congrats on your little man Princess :) I'm so sorry you didn't hear girl...lots of hugs. Enjoy our little man :) x

[Inglewood]

Princess, sorry you didn't get to hear girl too, but this wee man must of been desperate to be part of your family and he'll be so loved by his big brothers!! x

[Flava]

Princess congrats on your sweet baby boy!!!

Do you have cute pics?

[Flava]

Just want to say ladies af is here and we dont ttc anymore. have to loose weight I can't be like this.
So good luck to all.(im stalking lol)

[Mochagirl]

Flava, I'm sooo sorry about af.

[Sunset]

Princess ~ so sorry you didn't hear pink, but a big congratulations on your precious baby boy!!! did you get any nice u/s pictures? :)

Flava ~ sorry to hear af showed! :(

[Inglewood]

Flava, sorry Af showed. How long have u been ttc? xx

[princesssarah34]

Flava I am so sorry to hear af showed!

Z my boys have known for a while about the new baby coming.....they wanted a sister....they were with us yesterday and know it is a brother. DS#3 said "that baby bootyfull!" and then said "that baby is swimming in the water!" He was super cute yesterday!

And I do have pic's...not sure if they gave us any good shots of the baby. The tech was not as good as the other girls at the 3-d place....I have way better pic's of my other boys but only cause she didn't do them someone else did!

[Glittergirl]

Many congrats on your baby boy Princess!! I couldn't log on last night--something weird going on with the site and it kept directing me to google--but looks like it's fixed now. Anyway so happy to hear baby is great and you're doing well. Sorry you didn't hear pink but I totally agree boy moms ROCK! I think most of us boy moms will agree to that :) Enjoy buying new stuff and focusing on different colors--that's what I did with DS3! I went overboard with the beige and tans and white outfits they were just gorgeous and really put me in a good mood. Hope to see some great u/s pics!!

[princesssarah34]

Well I went through my cd for the 3-d shots and they are all crap to me!! I am so not happy with paying for 3-d and get nothing worth showing to people!! The tech didn't even try to get any good shots! I mean you can make out a face...but most of the shots look like a blob!

[Flava]

Flava, sorry Af showed. How long have u been ttc? xx
we stared this whole thing in April but only tried for a baby for 3 months, got a bfp first try but lost it

[purplepoet20]

Sorry Flava... I was hoping you would try a little longer but being happy with your 4 girls is still great. You are very lucky to have such beautiful girls. And don't worry you will love your grandsons just as much as you would have loved a son.

[tweedledeedum]

Princess - congrats on your new baby! Sorry you didn't hear pink, big hugs. How are you doing with things? If you aren't happy with the 3D shots you got, you should call and let them know. Maybe they will get you in again for some better shots.

Flava - so sorry about AF. TTC can be so hard. Are you going to TTC again in a few months?

[Flava]

PP- I really hope for girl grandkids !
tweedle-no we don't try again

[Inglewood]

Flava, sorry to hear about your loss and that you have decided not to try again, but we all know our own mind and bodies and with 4 girls your bound to have lots of lovely grandkids in the future, girls and boys! x

[Inglewood]

Princess, I would def call and complain! Even go back in with the pics and explain that they are blurry and these are your memories and it's not acceptable.. x

[Foxy]

Princess - Congratulations on a sweet baby boy! I hope you can get a re-scan and get some better pictures!

Flava - So sorry AF arrived :(

[princesssarah34]

I just got a email from the 3-d place and the owner her self after I complained that I was not happy with the 3-d pic's....and she want to come in again for free to get better pic's!! She is really amazing and loves her job and wants her customers to be happy!! So I will call in a bit and maybe get a appt. for friday!

[purplepoet20]

I so want to O right now but I have to wait until next week... darn! CD4 for me. My cycle is back to 28 days. My LH test yesterday was normal. My hormone bloodwork results will come in next monday, just taken today. I already want to go girl shopping and buy girl christmas outfits for next year.

Princess - Sorry about another boy but healthy is always best.

[Glittergirl]

Glad you get a re-scan princess. I saw your u/s shot and I could not tell if it's a boy or girl...potty shots are always best for me. Goodluck!

[Mochagirl]

I'm glad you're getting another scan, princess. Maybe it will also help you bond with your new little prince! :HH:

[Mochagirl]

I know this isn't really the place to post my updates, but it's a bad habit to break....and I love all you ladies so much and value your advice.

I got a BFN today, which I'm really happy about! Not only that, but I feel like my body is gearing up to O (or at least it's trying to O) - I have EWCM and my cervix is SHOW + my libido, which has been MIA since my BF, seems to have returned. I took an OPK today and it was negative, but I'm going to keep testing just in case. My EWCM is mixed with a little brown spotting, though - anyone know if it's dangerous for us to dtd when there's still a tiny bit of blood? How about Rephresh - could I start using it now in case I actually O this week?

I posted a thread elsewhere about deciding whether or not my sway is strong enough to go for it this month if the opportunity arises - let me know what you think:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/6786-decisions-decisions-need-some-help.html

[begonia]

Yay for a rescan with hopefully better pics Princess! I am so happy you have a healthy baby, I know that was your ultimate priority given your experience, and I'm thrilled that all looks well. But I know how hard it is to not get your DG so I am sorry you didn't hear girl. I would LOVE a houseful of boys though, I think it sounds totally amazing, and I know you'll cherish them all :) Volunteered today with a woman with 4 grown sons and they still all come home with their wives and kids to her house for Thanksgiving! Love that since people always make those rotten comments about boys leaving once they're married. She gets every single one of them home every year and I hope you get the same bond with your crew :)

Mocha I wish I had advice but all I can say is I'm super excited things are looking up for TTC soon! That's fantastic news!!!

[zanacal]

Hi ladies, just waving hello - have had a horrible couple of days with DS1 very poorly in hospital with asthma. I stayed with him last night and DH is staying with him tonight. I felt much better when I was there with him as I feel really upset being home without him remembering what we went through, it was so scary. He is on the mend and we hope he'll be home tomorrow. I can't wait to have my family back together again!

[Sunset]

Zanacal ~ I didn't realise your ds is still in hospital? :( i hope he feels well enough soon to come home!
I do apologise, but like I said on FB i had you confused with someone else, but now I know 100% who you are on my FB lol :)

[Mochagirl]

Z - I'm sorry your ds is still in the hospital. I hope he'll be home soon! :HH:

[Inglewood]

Z, ur poor wee man! I hope he's better soon and home for lots of cuddles and fun with his brother's. x

[lemon2012]

Zan. I hope you and your family are doing well!

[Glittergirl]

Hi ladies, just waving hello - have had a horrible couple of days with DS1 very poorly in hospital with asthma. I stayed with him last night and DH is staying with him tonight. I felt much better when I was there with him as I feel really upset being home without him remembering what we went through, it was so scary. He is on the mend and we hope he'll be home tomorrow. I can't wait to have my family back together again!

((HUGS))--sending you my best for a quick recovery for your little guy! Keep us posted.

[princesssarah34]

Oh Z I hope he is on the mend!! Poor little guy..poor Mommy!:heart:

[tweedledeedum]

Z- hope your little one is doing better and can get home soon. Poor little guy!

[DoulaMama]

Z- Just did a quick read through here...I'm so sorry your little guy is dealing with this:( how terrifying for everybody! I really hope he's feeling better soon :HH:

Hello Everyone! I don't have too much time:( Wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone! I have so much on my plate the next 2 weeks...Christmas sewing, decorating, house cleaning....the list is endless:( I hope everyone is well! Much Love~~~

[princesssarah34]

YAY!!! I am so excited today! I just got off the phone with the place the did the 3-d on Saturday and talk to the owner....she is wonderful and she remembers me from all the the other boys ultra sounds......she wants me to have wonder pic and memories of this baby like I do of my other boys! And she remember I lost my last baby! So I will go today at 4:30 and have a free rescan!! DH and I will be leaving the boys home this time with my Sister....and actually have a afternoon to ourselves! It will be nice to have this special time to just us today! :bluecheer:

I hope all you wonderful ladies are doing well......and Z been thinking of you!!:hug2:

[Mochagirl]

Enjoy your scan, princess!

[zanacal]

Thank you everybody. He's home and we're back to normal (by that I mean the kids are all bickering and going to bed badly :D). DS1 is sat next to me crying his eyes out because he's remembered he did something naughty at school last week and he's worried he'll be in trouble when he goes back!

[Babymad]

Pleased your little man is on the mend Z x

[HopeandDreamG]

Z- glad your little man is getting better
Princess- enjoy your scan, post a pic when u can!

[Mochagirl]

So glad your ds is doing better, Z!

[Inglewood]

Oh Z, poor wee soul worrying.... lots of cuddles then! What a brave boy going thru all that. x

[begonia]

Oh Z I am so glad he's OK! Never easy to see a little one in the hospital. Yay for coming home!

[begonia]

Inglewood you're almost 18 weeks, oh my! Are you finding out soon? I still remember that girly nub ... FX for you!

[Inglewood]

Hi ladies, hope ur all well? What a busy day here, scans, physio class, electricity power cuts, swimming lessons and my nephew's b'day! I'm shattered!

Princess hope ur scan went well, that's so good u got things sorted! Enjoy the scan!

I had my 18wk scan today but she couldn't say boys/girls as they were not co-operating!! lol She did say as my 20wk scan is detailed she'll have a really good look as it's a longer scan and she should be able to say. I was hoping to find out, but 2wks isn't too long to wait.... mmm... ask me in a week if it's dragging in.... lol

[Inglewood]

Inglewood you're almost 18 weeks, oh my! Are you finding out soon? I still remember that girly nub ... FX for you!

Thanks Begonia!! hope it's girly nubs!! 2wks to (hopefully) find out!!

[begonia]

Oh how exciting Inglewood! You and Z will be finding out around the same time! FX for you both to hear girl!

[lemon2012]

inglewood...i am excited to hear about your scan!!!

Zan..so glad to hear Ds is home. How are you? Are you working as well as looking after kids and being pregnant???
I hope you hear girll......for real! Plus, selfishly, it gives me hope:)

princess.,..I really hope your scan goes well and he is the most beautiful by in the world!!!! (after your first two of course, lol)

[Mochagirl]

Wow - that must have been so frustrating to be so close to finding out then not finding out, Inglewood!

[princesssarah34]

We are home from our rescan and......the tech was awesome!! I have the best pic's of this little guy! I love him already!! Here is a pic of my cutie!

Z glad your little man is home a doing better!

Inglewood I would have been holding my breath at your scan! Bummer the babies were being little stinkers! :giggle:

[Mochagirl]

Beautiful pictures, princess :HH:

[Inglewood]

Princess, wow... those pics almost made me cry with delight for u, I have watery eyes, they are so lovely!! My ds2 caught a wee glimpse of them on the screen so I've had lots of questions (he's 5). Little do the boys know we have a 4d scan booked for mid january as a surprise. He's a cutie right enough and must be lovely for you to see him. Before u know it you'll be cuddling him in ur arms......

[purplepoet20]

princess- Happy your 2nd scan went well. It is always nice to put a face to your baby helps with the bonding.

z - sorry about your DS1 I know how bad asthma can be but worse for the parent who has to watch their baby suffer.

[purplepoet20]

I am CD6 and my monitor predicts O on 12/6.... my paternal grandpas birthday he would have been 93 but he passed away 2 years ago. He was the grandpa I grew up with but lost a lot of affection for when I found out some of his faults that I didn't agree with. But maybe just maybe he will send me a little pink dust.

I am finding it really hard to feel good about this sway because I am not taking herbs but I started rephresh and have been taking 25,000mg of cranberry so maybe that is all I need.

[HopeandDreamG]

Beatiful pics princess...just unbelievable!!

[tweedledeedum]

Ingel - I can't believe you didn't get a gender shot! I would have been a nervous wreck just waiting to hear...Anyways, looking forward to your scan in a couple of weeks!

Princess - those pics are so precious! What a little cutie!

Has anyone found that they have low iron stores after swaying? How did you/are you overcoming it? I just found out that my iron stores are very low and my mw questioned whether I ate meat before my pregnancy (too sick to eat meat yet during pregnancy, now 15 wks). I didn't think about it too much but now I realize I was swaying for a good 5 months with very little to no meat prior to my bfp. I have always had proper iron stores in the past so I think it must have been the swaying!

[Mochagirl]

tweedle - I was always worried about my iron levels while swaying - when I would look at my nutrient totals on FitDay at the end of the day I'd only have like 10% of the RDI of iron or something like that. I did mention to my mw I was on a vegetarian diet when she took my blood, but since I had my m/c a week after that I never got the results of that blood test. I've been concerned about iron since my m/c too since a m/c at the best of times can cause anemia, but I did eat meat for a good 2 months before the m/c, so I hope I stored up enough iron. I'm also trying to incorporate more iron into my sway diet now than before - like by adding beans to spinach salad, for instance. I had a blood draw on Monday and am waiting to hear my results on the iron levels.