TTC Girl, ovulating today, need help!

[Star4012]

Hi Atomic! I need some help deciding what I should do for my sway... I've been TTC for a year and 7 months... I'm currently on my 4th cycle of Clomid-- first round of 100mg. My first 3 cycles of clomid was 50mg-- i ovulated the first round doing 1 attempt at positive OPK (not conceiving)... then I had to back to back anovulatory cycles while on my second and third round of 50mg. My OBGYN upped my dosage to 100mg for my 4th cycle and told me that I could continue for 3 more cycles at 100mg before he is going to refer me to a RE.

I'm currently on CD17.... We BD yesterday afternoon and I got a positive OPK around 11pm last night (CD16)... during the night I was having more signs of Ovulation-- I experienced very watery CM all night, cramping, BDing is uncomfortable, and I'm extremely bloated.. and my nipples are on fire. lol so I'm really thinking that I'm ovulating today. Would i completely screw up my sway by attempting tonight or tomorrow morning? Prior to CD16 we DTD 3 days before (the E4D 72 hour version). I really really want a girl, and I'm also just getting tired of trying and not succeeding. If I'm going to screw it up by BDing again I won't, but just wanted your opinion.

My Sway includes:
Clomid 100mg days 5-9
folic acid 1600mg
skipping breakfast
added in dairy to get me to O
not eating red meats
BDing E4D
3 cups of coffee daily

[Boyboy]

That’s one attempt with very good odds of conception. I just got pregnant from a O-3 attempt (only attempt!!). So personally, I would stuck to the one attempt of yesterday! Good luck!

[Star4012]

Here are my stats today. Really wish I would've seen a bigger spike in temp. Ovuview is still pinning O early, and I haven't gotten crosshairs in FF.... but I'm pretty certain considering how miserable I was all day plus opks darkness that I Ovulated yesterday. Either way, our attempts should have us covered. I didn't attempt last night after all, I was just too uncomfortable to BD. The mid afternoon attempt the day before was super uncomfortable-- thrusts hurt!

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[ksmom]

Honestly in your situation, I'd have another attempt. You've been TTC for a very long time and been on Clomid a long time. You need to do whatever it takes to get pregnant at this point. You should at the very least be doing e4d plus one attempt at pos OPK, possibly even SMEP. Atomic may even recommend the atomic fertility diet because you've been trying so long. Hopefully she sees this post soon.

[Star4012]

Thanks! My opks are getting lighter as time goes on... so id say that CD16 pm was a positive one, indicating yesterday as day of O. My temps just haven't confirmed it yet

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[chanesteyn007]

Honestly in your situation, I'd have another attempt. You've been TTC for a very long time and been on Clomid a long time. You need to do whatever it takes to get pregnant at this point. You should at the very least be doing e4d plus one attempt at pos OPK, possibly even SMEP. Atomic may even recommend the atomic fertility diet because you've been trying so long. Hopefully she sees this post soon.Can you clarify the e4d ?


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[Star4012]

Can you clarify the e4d ?


Sent from my PRA-LX1 using TapatalkSure! The E4D can be interpreted as either waiting two or three days in between the days of bding depending on how you count it..... I do the two day in between version (72 hour). It's your preference which one you go with though.

So for my 72 hour version-- Say you BD today, mid day on Tuesday... the next time you'd want to BD is 72 hours from now-- so mid day Friday would be your day :)

Examples of 72 hour version are:
Monday - Thursday
Tuesday - Friday
Wednesday - Saturday
Thursday - Sunday
Friday - Monday
Saturday - Tuesday
Sunday - Wednesday

Examples of the 96 hour version are:
Monday - Friday
Tuesday - Saturday
Wednesday - Sunday
Thursday - Monday
Friday - Tuesday
Saturday - Wednesday
Sunday - Thursday

Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you!

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[chanesteyn007]

Sure! The E4D can be interpreted as either waiting two or three days in between the days of bding depending on how you count it..... I do the two day in between version (72 hour). It's your preference which one you go with though.

So for my 72 hour version-- Say you BD today, mid day on Tuesday... the next time you'd want to BD is 72 hours from now-- so mid day Friday would be your day :)

Examples of 72 hour version are:
Monday - Thursday
Tuesday - Friday
Wednesday - Saturday
Thursday - Sunday
Friday - Monday
Saturday - Tuesday
Sunday - Wednesday

Examples of the 96 hour version are:
Monday - Friday
Tuesday - Saturday
Wednesday - Sunday
Thursday - Monday
Friday - Tuesday
Saturday - Wednesday
Sunday - Thursday

Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Augh Star somehow this kept getting bumped away from me - no matter what you did, it was the right thing! I think it was great that you had that final attempt, may have made all the difference. You've definitely Oed, I love that temp rise! Sending you tons of pink sticky dust and hugest apologies!!

[Star4012]

Augh Star somehow this kept getting bumped away from me - no matter what you did, it was the right thing! I think it was great that you had that final attempt, may have made all the difference. You've definitely Oed, I love that temp rise! Sending you tons of pink sticky dust and hugest apologies!!Thanks Atomic. I stuck with my gut and didn't do an attempt the day I was questioning about. Even though I've been on this journey a long time, my ultimate goal is a baby girl so that's why I didn't do it that day. Still doing E4D until AF in case I'm all screwed up with ovulation..

Still haven't had crosshairs for FF but have them for Ovuview. I finally convinced my doctor to run a new blood panel for me (I may have fibbed and said I'm having another anovulatory cycle ;) ) but I told them I needed to know if I'm ovulating or not and that if they didn't run new bloodwork on me id find another doc bc I'm tired of wasting months! Ha! It worked, I'm going tomorrow evening (after work). Yay!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh ok I was going off your notes on the chart and there was one last attempt which I think was well timed!

Yes do keep going with e4d just in case.

Good job keeping the doctors on their toes! I swear if we don't advocate for ourselves they will never do anything. Good luck and pink dust headed your way!

[Star4012]

Oh ok I was going off your notes on the chart and there was one last attempt which I think was well timed!

Yes do keep going with e4d just in case.

Good job keeping the doctors on their toes! I swear if we don't advocate for ourselves they will never do anything. Good luck and pink dust headed your way!Thanks Atomic! I didn't get a call about my results so I'll just wait to hear back from them on Monday. But at least with the progesterone test, if it comes back with low numbers my doc should know that I need suppositories or not. And I'll also be able to know if I'm ovulating or not, and if I am, then he may even be able to tell if I'm having a strong o or weak o. I had a change in temps... It's downward now... but I had insomnia last night so that may have thrown it off. Hopefully it was just a fluke reading which threw the other temps out of whack. Thanks for keeping in touch with me! :)
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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes! That one low temp can def. be a fluke!! FX for good news (or at least ANY news LOL!) :)

[Star4012]

Yes! That one low temp can def. be a fluke!! FX for good news (or at least ANY news LOL!) :)Well, temps are super low now... kinda expecting AF any day now. I haven't heard about my progesterone results yet but I have a followup doc appt on Wednesday. I'll call today to see if my results are in. Any suggestions, atomic? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180226/f7b37415b4495afa971cfdbdba92aa08.jpg

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[Star4012]

Just heard back from my doctors office... When i asked about my results my doctor's personal nurse said, "upon getting your results Dr. Williams said that unfortunately did not ovulate this cycle. your progesterone level was at a 3.34.... and we like to see them at a 10." so she told me that we would go over our next plan of action on Wednesday. Any ideas what he might do? He told me that he only prescribes clomid 100mg for 3 cycles and then refers out to a RE. Do you think i need an increase yet again? or progesterone supplements? I'm sooo lost :(

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[MrsEnglish]

Wow, I know how disappointing it is to not ovulate. I'm sorry you have to go through this.

I wanted to say something about your situation - I'm not a doctor, but I don't think you should do another round at 100 mg if you did 100 mg and it didn't make you ovulate. I think it is a waste, and that you either need to try 150 mg or try a different treatment such as Femara or Clomid + injectibles.

Please don't let this get you down, but you might also want to call an RE for an appointment now. From what I've heard, it usually takes a few months to get an appointment, and if you get pregnant before then you can just cancel.

Best luck to you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Just heard back from my doctors office... When i asked about my results my doctor's personal nurse said, "upon getting your results Dr. Williams said that unfortunately did not ovulate this cycle. your progesterone level was at a 3.34.... and we like to see them at a 10." so she told me that we would go over our next plan of action on Wednesday. Any ideas what he might do? He told me that he only prescribes clomid 100mg for 3 cycles and then refers out to a RE. Do you think i need an increase yet again? or progesterone supplements? I'm sooo lost :(

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Agh that's just what I was about to say looking at your chart - that I wasn't too sure you did ovulate now looking at your temps. You very well may still O so keep having attempts. I know it feels like you're out right now, but you absolutely CAN and 90% likely WILL still ovulate and the egg will be viable (don't believe the scary stuff you read some places on line, that has been debunked and discredited). I suspect that you are going to get another surge and you'll O at that time and it may be any time now.

Since you didn't ovulate yet, that temp very well may mean NOT AF, but that your estrogen is rising and you're going to surge and ovulate fairly soon. So I would resume OPK, and/or be doing e4d attempts to try and catch the egg.

[Star4012]

Agh that's just what I was about to say looking at your chart - that I wasn't too sure you did ovulate now looking at your temps. You very well may still O so keep having attempts. I know it feels like you're out right now, but you absolutely CAN and 90% likely WILL still ovulate and the egg will be viable (don't believe the scary stuff you read some places on line, that has been debunked and discredited). I suspect that you are going to get another surge and you'll O at that time and it may be any time now.

Since you didn't ovulate yet, that temp very well may mean NOT AF, but that your estrogen is rising and you're going to surge and ovulate fairly soon. So I would resume OPK, and/or be doing e4d attempts to try and catch the egg.Thanks atomic. I still haven't had AF arrive yet. My sex drive is like no where so I have to just make myself get in the mood. So you think there is still a chance ill ovulate this cycle? Im currently on CD27. Still in the waiting room for my appt. I will update you as soon as I speak to my doc. Thanks for the input!! Xoxo!

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[Star4012]

Agh that's just what I was about to say looking at your chart - that I wasn't too sure you did ovulate now looking at your temps. You very well may still O so keep having attempts. I know it feels like you're out right now, but you absolutely CAN and 90% likely WILL still ovulate and the egg will be viable (don't believe the scary stuff you read some places on line, that has been debunked and discredited). I suspect that you are going to get another surge and you'll O at that time and it may be any time now.

Since you didn't ovulate yet, that temp very well may mean NOT AF, but that your estrogen is rising and you're going to surge and ovulate fairly soon. So I would resume OPK, and/or be doing e4d attempts to try and catch the egg.Heres what all went on yesterday: My doc (obgyn) immediately came into my exam room saw down and said, "well, based on your progesterone levels, I don't believe you ovulated this month... and since we are doing everything we possibly can here, I'm going to go ahead and refer you out to a reproductive endocrinologist for further testing to determine what's going on here". I prepared myself with all my charts and a list of things I wanted to bring up about hashimotos and testing my thyroid. So I said responded to his statement with, "well, let's take a look at my charts. 1st round was perfect- I ovulated, and it was a "normal" cycle. Onto the 2nd round- 17 days long and progesterone dominance during estrogen stage which would say I have low estrogen, onto 3rd round--20 days long again with progesterone dominance during estrogen stage, now this 4th cycle-- I have no idea what is going on- although with my progesterone test it came back very low so we know that progesterone isn't dominating anymore". And he nodded his head the entire time. I then asked if he could do a complete thyroid panel on me to test my T3 and T4 levels with my TSH again.... and he told me that my TSH was. 66 back in August and that it was all within normal range. THEN I said, likely those have changed bc levels change monthly, and when I was researching thyroid facts, doctors like to see it at a 2.5 or more! Mine is at .66!!! I told him how I really feel that something else is the underlining cause and that's why the Clomid isn't working. I told him that I'm always tired, cold, I have irregular periods, thinning hair, foggy brain, a range of emotions, and that something else is surely going on. He told me that he's still going to refer me bc although he can check all of that, that it's out of his offices realm... and that they don't have the equipment to check what they need to-- like follicular checks, and people to do trigger shots, but that the RE will be able to do all of that... He said he doesn't want to continue doing something that isn't working. So I'm glad he recognized my concerns and was honest about what his practice cannot do or check. He wasn't going to give me anymore Clomid but I almost started crying... My eyes teared up and I said can you please consider giving me another round of Clomid until I can get into Magees in April bc I don't want to waste any more time. And he agreed. Thank God! Yesterday was rough... I'm still adjusting to the fact that I have to go to the next step. I'm terrified of getting in the position of only having IVF as our only and last option bc insurance doesn't cover it.... it's sooooo expensive. My husband is trying to convince me that this next step is really good, and that we will get more answers but I just feel so broken!

I had called a RE last month when I was having anovulatory cycles and I set up a new consult appt and they were already booking in April... My appt is set for April 12th, but my doc office is going to call them today (yesterday my appt ran late and the office they needed to call was already closed) so hopefully they'll be able to get me in sooner. 🤞🤞 I would like them to keep trying Clomid and a trigger shot to see if that'll help. I can't help but get a little excited about the possibility of twins on Clomid, so femara would be my last choice (if I was given one).

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[Star4012]

I got in to see my RE next Friday :)

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[MrsEnglish]

Hi! Just wanted to encourage you and to say that you still have a lot of things to try (higher dose, injectibles, IUI) before needing IVF, so at this point I don't think you need to be worried about IVF. But I'm glad you have an appointment for an RE.

Gynecologists are useful if all you need is a prescription of Clomid/Femara and then you get pregnant. But for anything more complicated than that you should go to an RE.

[Star4012]

Hi! Just wanted to encourage you and to say that you still have a lot of things to try (higher dose, injectibles, IUI) before needing IVF, so at this point I don't think you need to be worried about IVF. But I'm glad you have an appointment for an RE.

Gynecologists are useful if all you need is a prescription of Clomid/Femara and then you get pregnant. But for anything more complicated than that you should go to an RE.Thanks so much for the encouragement, MrsEnglish!! Sometimes I need those simply reminders. I keep telling myself, otll be ok, just like stepping stones-- this is only the second stone <3

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[Star4012]

Had a weird increase in temp this morning... possibly another surge? Still haven't had a visit from AF.... on CD29... longest I have had in a long while. [emoji848][emoji848]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180302/dec8ecde69cda29ec161beb0efb7117b.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Ah yes, that looks like it could possibly be something, and looky you had a nicely timed attempt even!!

Keep having attempts too because I often see this pattern where there's a dip and a raise, then a dip and a raise, and then eventually one of the dip/raises turns out to be legit!

[Star4012]

Ah yes, that looks like it could possibly be something, and looky you had a nicely timed attempt even!!

Keep having attempts too because I often see this pattern where there's a dip and a raise, then a dip and a raise, and then eventually one of the dip/raises turns out to be legit!Weird results today.... top is clinical guard opks and bottom is wondfos. I also took a wondfos test this am and at first there wasn't a line... now (5 mins later) there's a line. Thinking a possible dye run bc my temps are just too low still. Thoughts?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Is the bottom not a pregnancy test???

Is your question "why am I getting neg OPK and pos pregnancy tests" and that I do know - it's that very early on your OPK won't register as pregnancy tests and the HCG tests will so that doesn't seem unusual to me.

If your question is, "if I'm pregnant why are my temps so low" I agree it could be a faker but it realy DOES look like a positive test to me. Does not look like a ghost line or defective test. Could it be, of course, but also sometimes temps are just weird and do unexpected things. Let me take a closer look at them and see if anything jumps out at me.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am assuming the bloodwork where they said you hadn't ovulated was done on CD 21?

Let's say for the sake of argument that this latest temp dip was in fact 7 DPO (the secondary estrogen surge or as some call it, the "implantation dip" even though that is a misnomer) You could absolutely BOTH have had a progesterone test CD 21 that indicated you had not ovulated - and I have actually HAD someone have a CD 21 blood test accidentally taken the day she ovulated and it came back with some very weird readings and she got pregnant that month - and be getting a positive pregnancy test now and that dip was teh secondary estrogen surge, if you see what I'm saying.

[atomic sagebrush]

And I agree that your temps in that case are utterly bizarre and don't support this theory but for now if that pos pregnancy test stays around (which I hope it does) then that makes the most sense to me. The CD 21 test had low prog because it was O Day or O-1 and then you ovulated, conceived somehow, and this latest dip was SES and you could be getting a positive pregnancy test now.

[Star4012]

Tested this am and I didn't see a second line this time. I wasn't thinking it was for real bc my temps don't correspond with what would be a pregnancy. My temps are continuing to rise today so that's odd. FF hasn't given me crosshairs for this cycle at all yet, but ovuview did 2 weeks ago and then changed the location of crosshairs again this morning. Possibly ovulating late at this point? Thank you so much for analyzing my chart and opks/hpts!! I appreciate it so much! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180304/94b6b24ec62f97142aacb30d6e72be23.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180304/05a8193dce121a14f18dd67a3cccbdb6.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I think you may have ovulated late and we had some freaky high temps midcycle that have thrown things into confusion OR it may be that you still have yet to ovulate and we are seeing a stairstep chart that I see sometimes, where an anovulatory pattern has a dip and then rise, dip and then rise, and then finally after 2 or more of those dip/rises, has a legit dip/rise that ends in ovulation. So the temps will tell the tale, DO keep having attempts regularly in case this is a dip/rise thing and not a "I just Oed" thing.

Did you have any symptoms that indicate you just ovualated?

[Star4012]

Yes I think you may have ovulated late and we had some freaky high temps midcycle that have thrown things into confusion OR it may be that you still have yet to ovulate and we are seeing a stairstep chart that I see sometimes, where an anovulatory pattern has a dip and then rise, dip and then rise, and then finally after 2 or more of those dip/rises, has a legit dip/rise that ends in ovulation. So the temps will tell the tale, DO keep having attempts regularly in case this is a dip/rise thing and not a "I just Oed" thing.

Did you have any symptoms that indicate you just ovualated?Yes! Very crampy... o type pains

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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm going with freaky defective pregnancy test and that you just now have ovulated! FXFXFX!

[Star4012]

I'm going with freaky defective pregnancy test and that you just now have ovulated! FXFXFX!Yes, I believe it was a bad indent. Today is the day we are to BD with the e4d 72 hour version. 🤞🤞🤞 it works!!! Haha

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[Star4012]

Keeps on going up! Hoping this is a good sign :) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180306/df4a9f4b80594ad3bd2634dc088d7d77.jpg

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[Star4012]

Temp is way up this morning. This makes me happy haha! Just hoping we caught the egg! 🤞[emoji120][emoji4]

I changed my FF settings from advanced to FAM and got dotted crosshairs

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[atomic sagebrush]

Now that is more like it! Ha ha! I see this very regularly where a chart looks ovulatory and then the temp really rises and it's all put into context. :) Good luck and pink dust!

[Star4012]

Now that is more like it! Ha ha! I see this very regularly where a chart looks ovulatory and then the temp really rises and it's all put into context. :) Good luck and pink dust!Thank you, atomic!

My RE appt went well. They did a physical on me and that was it... i had to give them "our story" with ttc and i was super informative. Even packed a binder with all my charts and opks so I could explain how each month went with Clomid. The doc was very nice and wants to get down to the bottom of what may be going on (possible underlying thyroid condition).

I have a TON of bloodwork to get done, but they are all CD # specific. I have to get 2 different ultrasounds done- one is a HSG (where they inject a dye into your fallopian tubes to check for blockage-- heard it's SUPER PAINFUL :( ) and a SHG (where they inject saline into your uterus to check for fibroids or pollups)... for the blood work I have to wait until my cycle starts-- call in on CD1 and have bloodwork done on either cycle day 2, 3 or 4 ... then after bleeding ends, I have to have both ultrasounds done before I ovulate so roughly between CD6 and CD13 (but cant do them the same day). My hubby has to do another semen analysis. He's not very happy about that. Lol. But that's where we are at with things. My doc mentioned about ordering me a blood test yesterday to check for pregnancy but must have forgotten... when I called back in to ask about that since my temps are high and I haven't gotten a period yet, they said if i don't start my pd in 10 days then they'll order me a test and if I'm not pregnant, they'll prescribe me provera to induce a period.

Overall, I'm happy with all they are doing to try to figure out what's going on. I hope this goes faster than what it seems like it's going to take. Stinks that I have to wait for my cycle to start to begin anything. BUT I'm secretly hoping that I'm already pregnant and I don't have to go through all this stuff! I guess time will tell. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/7ed2048781dfd83326fc8c4e83900204.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, humor me and wait 14 days past NOT the crosshairs, but that little temp dip that ~looks~ like it's 5 days past ovulation just in case that is ACTUAL ovulation. See how some of your FP temps were actually higher then those?? I think it's plausible that was actually your ovulation day and since you did have some attempts around about then, I don't want you to get the blood test too soon, assume you're not pregnant, and start Provera if you really are pregnant.

There is no harm in waiting a few more days to start Provera and it could possibly save a pregnancy if you did O even later than the chart is showing. I've seen it happen often enough especially with these crazy charts so just humor me and do the test 4-5 days past when they say to, if AF doesn't come.

And they probably already told you this, but no more unprotected sex from here on in. It is unlikely you haven't Oed yet, but if you haven't, and then you did, and had unprotected sex, you could have possibly conceived from later O still and then start Provera thinking you aren't pregnant. (hope all this makes sense - we just don't want to assume anything here that could jeopardize a pregnancy.)

Keep us posted how it's going - hoping the tests are super easy but more than that - that you don't need any of them since you're already pregnant. :)

[Star4012]

Hey, humor me and wait 14 days past NOT the crosshairs, but that little temp dip that ~looks~ like it's 5 days past ovulation just in case that is ACTUAL ovulation. See how some of your FP temps were actually higher then those?? I think it's plausible that was actually your ovulation day and since you did have some attempts around about then, I don't want you to get the blood test too soon, assume you're not pregnant, and start Provera if you really are pregnant.

There is no harm in waiting a few more days to start Provera and it could possibly save a pregnancy if you did O even later than the chart is showing. I've seen it happen often enough especially with these crazy charts so just humor me and do the test 4-5 days past when they say to, if AF doesn't come.

And they probably already told you this, but no more unprotected sex from here on in. It is unlikely you haven't Oed yet, but if you haven't, and then you did, and had unprotected sex, you could have possibly conceived from later O still and then start Provera thinking you aren't pregnant. (hope all this makes sense - we just don't want to assume anything here that could jeopardize a pregnancy.)

Keep us posted how it's going - hoping the tests are super easy but more than that - that you don't need any of them since you're already pregnant. :)I'm following you exactly! Pbn thought the same thing too... that it could have ovulated even later than what the FAM detector is showing in FF based on pre/post O temps. Hoping either one is the case! When I called the nurses like back to ask about the blood pregnancy test, she told me the same thing.... that from yesterday on-- to abstain for 10 days, if I still have not gotten a period, to call in on that tenth day and ask for a pregnancy blood test and also progesterone levels to be checked. Once they get the results from those 2 tests, assuming they are negative results, then she would prescribe me the provera. While on provera, abstain for the 10 days you take it and that should induce a period. Once I get my period, I should also abstain why they do all the bloodwork and ultrasounds.

At that point we'd be talking about nearly a month without sex!!! Lol if we wear a condom, is that ok? All those measures are just a precaution so I don't end up getting pregnant while having medicines and procedures that aren't save for fetus'.

We abstained for 3 days total on my appt day bc I wasn't sure if they were going to send my hubby for a SA that day. He has to get one but has to schedule an appt.

So going by the theory that I'm actually on CD37/5dpo and not CD37/9pdo when would I request a blood test for the 5dpo theory? Just being clear hahah! :) thanks atomic!

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[MrsEnglish]

Thank you, atomic!

My RE appt went well. They did a physical on me and that was it... i had to give them "our story" with ttc and i was super informative. Even packed a binder with all my charts and opks so I could explain how each month went with Clomid. The doc was very nice and wants to get down to the bottom of what may be going on (possible underlying thyroid condition).

I have a TON of bloodwork to get done, but they are all CD # specific. I have to get 2 different ultrasounds done- one is a HSG (where they inject a dye into your fallopian tubes to check for blockage-- heard it's SUPER PAINFUL :( ) and a SHG (where they inject saline into your uterus to check for fibroids or pollups)... for the blood work I have to wait until my cycle starts-- call in on CD1 and have bloodwork done on either cycle day 2, 3 or 4 ... then after bleeding ends, I have to have both ultrasounds done before I ovulate so roughly between CD6 and CD13 (but cant do them the same day). My hubby has to do another semen analysis. He's not very happy about that. Lol. But that's where we are at with things. My doc mentioned about ordering me a blood test yesterday to check for pregnancy but must have forgotten... when I called back in to ask about that since my temps are high and I haven't gotten a period yet, they said if i don't start my pd in 10 days then they'll order me a test and if I'm not pregnant, they'll prescribe me provera to induce a period.

Overall, I'm happy with all they are doing to try to figure out what's going on. I hope this goes faster than what it seems like it's going to take. Stinks that I have to wait for my cycle to start to begin anything. BUT I'm secretly hoping that I'm already pregnant and I don't have to go through all this stuff! I guess time will tell. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/7ed2048781dfd83326fc8c4e83900204.jpg

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Exciting! It sounds like you have an RE who is really on the ball!

I don't think the HSG is always super painful, I think different women have different experiences, with some finding it super painful, and some finding it merely uncomfortable. DH can buck up, because if you have go through having doctors put tubes up your uterus, he can masturbate in a cup!

Best luck!

[Star4012]

Exciting! It sounds like you have an RE who is really on the ball!

I don't think the HSG is always super painful, I think different women have different experiences, with some finding it super painful, and some finding it merely uncomfortable. DH can buck up, because if you have go through having doctors put tubes up your uterus, he can masturbate in a cup!

Best luck!Hahaha!!! I love your reaction to my hubs SA!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] I agree 110% with you!!

And Thanks! That's what the nurse told me about it. Some people it's easy peasy some, it's like the most horrible pain they can think of.... I've had 2 babies-- so my idea is going in there thinking it's going to be the worst, but it not actually being so bad. :)

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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm following you exactly! Pbn thought the same thing too... that it could have ovulated even later than what the FAM detector is showing in FF based on pre/post O temps. Hoping either one is the case! When I called the nurses like back to ask about the blood pregnancy test, she told me the same thing.... that from yesterday on-- to abstain for 10 days, if I still have not gotten a period, to call in on that tenth day and ask for a pregnancy blood test and also progesterone levels to be checked. Once they get the results from those 2 tests, assuming they are negative results, then she would prescribe me the provera. While on provera, abstain for the 10 days you take it and that should induce a period. Once I get my period, I should also abstain why they do all the bloodwork and ultrasounds.

At that point we'd be talking about nearly a month without sex!!! Lol if we wear a condom, is that ok? All those measures are just a precaution so I don't end up getting pregnant while having medicines and procedures that aren't save for fetus'.

We abstained for 3 days total on my appt day bc I wasn't sure if they were going to send my hubby for a SA that day. He has to get one but has to schedule an appt.

So going by the theory that I'm actually on CD37/5dpo and not CD37/9pdo when would I request a blood test for the 5dpo theory? Just being clear hahah! :) thanks atomic!

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I think you probably did O after the big temp dip, but it's still possible given the earlier high temps and I just want to err on the side of caution since I have seen (unfortunately) some docs prescribing Provera really irresponsibly without giving any of those instructions - and several times where the woman DID end up getting a positive pregnancy test later on!! We don't want that to happen so I like you guys to take every precaution.

Yes sex with barrier birth control is fine during that time. Absolutely. You just don't want to possibly conceive with a later ovulation and then take a pregnancy test before it can register, and then start the Provera and stop it (since taking Provera and stopping it can trigger your uterine lining to come off!!)