A few questions - help please:-)

[Thinkingofthree]

I’ve read so much on here but I’m a little confused about a few things. I’d really appreciate any answers!

1 - For the LE diet the fat and protein amount recommendations are in grams (50-60g) but the carb goal is a percentage (60%) which has me confused. About how many grams of carbs should I aim for - 140ish?
My math for that was:
55 fat - 22%
55 protein - 22%
140 carbs - 56%
That seems really high though...?

2 - Do I need to do the excess coffee for the whole 12+ weeks or can start that closer to TTC?

3 - I have prenatals but of course they’re full of the nutrients I think we’re trying to avoid(?). Is it best to take just folic acid instead of a prenatal?

4 - Am I correct in understanding that taking cranberry/baby aspirin/etc is no longer recommended? Are there any supplements we are supposed to take?

Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

??? There is no carb goal on LE Diet. Where are you getting this? I would like to see that in context so I can explain what I was talking about there.

Don't count carbs on LE Diet. Count calories, fat, protein, and carbs will take care of themselves.

I am assuming you're on the alternate version of LE (since you're on 50-60 g protein and fat) so I want to be sure you're also getting your carbs from whole grains, fruits, and vegetables because those are much healthier and better for your fertility than white carbs are.

Yes please skip the prenatal and do just folic acid or folate (folate is better if you can afford it) If you find you really can't give up the prenatal, then take it 2-3 days a week instead of daily.

Yes I no longer recommend the baby aspirin (and never recommended cranberry) as they haven't worked and have really had a lot of side effects and higher risks than we first thought.

[Thinkingofthree]

I don’t know, I can’t find it now of course. Maybe it was someone’s comment and not you. I can’t find the link to the various diet choices now but I thought I was trying to do the ideal one but clearly must not be [emoji31].
So I’m guessing we’re generally supposed to be aiming for low carb? I evidently have no idea what I’m doing so...


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[Thinkingofthree]

If anyone could point me towards where it’s spelled out what the LE diet is I would appreciate it. I’m feeling a bit lost and defeated. I’ve found the nutshell version but I feel like there must be more somewhere? I keep reading that all the info is free but perhaps where the LE stuff is actually spelled out is something you have to pay for? I’m not meaning to complain I’ve just done a fair amount of reading on here but I know I’m far less familiar with the site than others so perhaps I’m just missing it...?
I don’t want to screw this up and clearly I already have. [emoji53]

If anyone has any thoughts on my original question about coffee I’d appreciate it too.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I don’t know, I can’t find it now of course. Maybe it was someone’s comment and not you. I can’t find the link to the various diet choices now but I thought I was trying to do the ideal one but clearly must not be [emoji31].
So I’m guessing we’re generally supposed to be aiming for low carb? I evidently have no idea what I’m doing so...


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You have not screwed anything up.

It's not low carb, it's just that you do not count carbs at all. You count calories, protein, and fat. Not carbs. It is supposed to be a higher amount of carb intake than protein and fat, but you still need to be getting adequate protein and fat intake to get and stay pregnant.

I just don't want you guys to worry about carbs. It's not something we need to track at all and the more stuff we're trying to track the worse it is for our sways (being super detail oriented may sway blue). So I like you to focus on the things we HAVE to track (cals, protein, fat) and skip the things we don't need to worry about (carbs.)

If you found the LE Diet Nutshell that's the diet. I have a more indepth version of the same stuff in the Dream Members but you don't need that. All it is, is 1500-1800 calories, 40-50 g protein, 30-60 g fat, and low carb vegetables are free and unlimited, have as much as you want, count none of that. Fruits and high carb veg like potatoes, count cals only and not protein or fat. That is all LE Diet is. Some people like to do more than that, but that's the crux of it all. There are NO magic foods, there are no must eat foods. It's all about the limits.

Please ask whatever questions you have. That's what I'm here for and I answer every question. It seems overwhelming but it's really quite easy and I can help you find whatever you're looking for and answer your q's.

[Thinkingofthree]

You have not screwed anything up.

It's not low carb, it's just that you do not count carbs at all. You count calories, protein, and fat. Not carbs. It is supposed to be a higher amount of carb intake than protein and fat, but you still need to be getting adequate protein and fat intake to get and stay pregnant.

I just don't want you guys to worry about carbs. It's not something we need to track at all and the more stuff we're trying to track the worse it is for our sways (being super detail oriented may sway blue). So I like you to focus on the things we HAVE to track (cals, protein, fat) and skip the things we don't need to worry about (carbs.)

If you found the LE Diet Nutshell that's the diet. I have a more indepth version of the same stuff in the Dream Members but you don't need that. All it is, is 1500-1800 calories, 40-50 g protein, 30-60 g fat, and low carb vegetables are free and unlimited, have as much as you want, count none of that. Fruits and high carb veg like potatoes, count cals only and not protein or fat. That is all LE Diet is. Some people like to do more than that, but that's the crux of it all. There are NO magic foods, there are no must eat foods. It's all about the limits.

Please ask whatever questions you have. That's what I'm here for and I answer every question. It seems overwhelming but it's really quite easy and I can help you find whatever you're looking for and answer your q's.

Thank you so much, I appreciate your reply and the information! I really want to wrap my head around this so I can get the hang of it and then hopefully stop thinking about it! I know stress can sway so I want to stop stressing about it. [emoji4]
Can you help me answer the coffee question? ——>Do I need to do the excess coffee for the whole 12+ weeks or can start that closer to TTC?
Thanks again!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know about the coffee. We just don't have the data to say if you need to do it the full 12 weeks or if it can be less. I'm sorry I wish we did!!!

[Thinkingofthree]

We don't know about the coffee. We just don't have the data to say if you need to do it the full 12 weeks or if it can be less. I'm sorry I wish we did!!!

Thanks!

A few additional clarifying questions...

1– When you say low carb veggies count nothing you mean no calories nor protein nor fat? So if I had a meal of low carb veggies dipped in hummus I would only count the hummus?

2– Are white bread/rice better than wheat bread/brown rice/quinoa became they have fewer nutrients? This seems so counterintuitive to what I normally think of as eating healthy so just want to check!

3– The only way I seem to be able to keep my protein and fat low but calories still at a reasonable level is to eat tons of carbs. Today I ate a bunch of white rice, yesterday I ate cake... I’m having between 100-150 grams of carbs! This seems like a lot to me, does this seem right to you? I feel like I’m going to just end up putting on weight if all I eat are sugar filled carbs/pasta/etc.

4– I know if seen it before but I can’t find it... How to we count alcohol?

Thank you thank you thank you!

[atomic sagebrush]

1)yep that's right. They are free and unlimited, have as much as you want, count nothing in them. But yes you'd count the hummus for protein, fat, cals.

2)That was what our original thinking was, but this has become a big gray area of swaying where we are really not too sure which is better for pink, white or whole grain. Anyone with PCOS tendencies, insulin resistance, more than 30 lbs. to spare, use ONLY whole grains, no white. And even those without those issues, white grains have not been as strong a pink sway as we thought and if you prefer to continue with the whole grains, feel free to do that, because they may even be better for swaying pink than refined white products.

3)Yes, that is very much in line with what people eat. Do you normally eat super low carb or something?? 100-150 g carbs is LOWER than the average carb intake for someone who is not even dieting. 100-150 is the upper range of low carb diets (so after the induction phase, maintenance phase low carb diets are in that range) People regularly eat 250-400 g of carbs a day just on a normal diet (even thin people.) We have studies that indicate a higher % of your day's diet from carbs sways pink, so that is actually what we're aiming at. I just think you may have a little bit of a misconception about what a lot of carbs even is becuase 150 is not high carb. I usually got 150 g carbs just in the form of pop when I was swaying for my daughter, let alone anything else I was eating LOL.

IF you do find you gain weight on LE Diet, then that's when we switch over to the alternate form that will have fewer carbs overall and also exclusvely healthy and well-tolerated carbs. :)

[Thinkingofthree]

1)yep that's right. They are free and unlimited, have as much as you want, count nothing in them. But yes you'd count the hummus for protein, fat, cals.

2)That was what our original thinking was, but this has become a big gray area of swaying where we are really not too sure which is better for pink, white or whole grain. Anyone with PCOS tendencies, insulin resistance, more than 30 lbs. to spare, use ONLY whole grains, no white. And even those without those issues, white grains have not been as strong a pink sway as we thought and if you prefer to continue with the whole grains, feel free to do that, because they may even be better for swaying pink than refined white products.

3)Yes, that is very much in line with what people eat. Do you normally eat super low carb or something?? 100-150 g carbs is LOWER than the average carb intake for someone who is not even dieting. 100-150 is the upper range of low carb diets (so after the induction phase, maintenance phase low carb diets are in that range) People regularly eat 250-400 g of carbs a day just on a normal diet (even thin people.) We have studies that indicate a higher % of your day's diet from carbs sways pink, so that is actually what we're aiming at. I just think you may have a little bit of a misconception about what a lot of carbs even is becuase 150 is not high carb. I usually got 150 g carbs just in the form of pop when I was swaying for my daughter, let alone anything else I was eating LOL.

IF you do find you gain weight on LE Diet, then that's when we switch over to the alternate form that will have fewer carbs overall and also exclusvely healthy and well-tolerated carbs. :)

Thank you! Okay yes I think you’re right I just have misconceptions about carbs. 150+ sounds high but I guess that’s just in comparison to the 50ish for fat/protein. When I’ve dieted before I’ve just counted calories and never carbs so I don’t have a great idea of how many I usually have. Thanks for the info it was helpful!!