Please check my girl sway starting soon

[Re5]

So i have 2 little boys and would like to sway for a girl for my last baby can you please have a look at my sway:

Supplements for me:
Cal and mag citrate (af to o)
Cranberry (af to o)
Folic acid (throughout)

Supplements for him:
Cranberry (af to o)
Cal and mag citrate (af to o)
Liquorice root (af to o)

I will use rephresh the week of ovulation
I will use sudafed a couple hours before each attempt
I’m going to try have sex every day after period up until 2/3 days before ovulation

Diet:
No breakfast/snacks
No meat
No caffeine

Lunch ideas: around 12ish
Low fat Greek style yogurt with plain pasta and apples with no skin
Or plain pasta
Or egg whites with low sodium bread

Dinner ideas around 6ish
Pasta with veg and Greek style yogurt
Or rice with veg and Greek style yogurt

Drinks:
Perrier water

I have a couple of questions

Is de-caff tea okay? (I drink 10 plus cups of tea a day so may be hard to cut out)
Is caffeine free Diet Coke okay?
Is there anything I am planning to do that you think could sway blue or anything I could add?

Thanks :)

[Re5]

Does anyone have any ideas if this sway sounds good?
Can I drink de-caff tea?

:D

[Throwaway_panther]

You've got some "other site" tactics in there -- I'd recommend coffee and dropping cal/mag. Tea and high calcium sways blue (and there are studies on the calcium, i always worries me when I see girl swayers do that based off an old diet). Cranberry I think can sway blue nutrient wise but I'd leave that to atomic to clarify since I'm more ignorant on it. But otherwise it all sounds very girl friendly to me. I'd throw in cardio if you can -- I think that's very important.

[Re5]

Coffees hard for me because i really hate it, ill try do excercise everyday for an hour when the boys are in bed i work full time sitting down alot so i definetly got to add excercise in some how.

Oh ok i thought calcium swayed girl, so confused

Can i ask ive read on here that people drink kool aid or crystal light, what is that? Is that the same as diet coke? Is caff free diet coke better?

Ill drop the tea all together

Ive also read sodium free bread is the best but i cant find it anywhere what would be better brown bread or white bread? Finding it so hard to figure out what i can eat as ive reasearched too much and all the sites are conflicting. Atm as pasta seems to not sway either ive figured it would be better to just eat pasta (small portions) and greek yogurts and drink milk lol

Also with the supplements most of them i am supposed to take from end of period untill ovulation but should i take them consistently until i actually start trying or still stop after ovulation?

Sorry about all the questions everyone is so helpful on this site :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Calcium and magnesium are at your discretion, personally I believe they sway blue and got 2 boys while taking them, and gave them up to get my girl. But I know it's hard to let go of, so use them if you'd like. Just be sure you are NOT eating tons of dairy foods (they have lots of nutrients) and do not take Vit. D at the same time.

Cranberry has not worked and is dangerous for DW to take. I have never recommended cranberry for DW. You can give it to DH if you'd like but be sure when he stops taking it, that he weans off gradually.

Licorice root has gotten awful results for the last few years. I don't know why, since on paper it should sway pink, but our results have been so terrible that I am moving away from using it for most people.

do NOT take Sudafed, especially with cranberry. it has been linked to strokes in young women.

DO NOT have sex every day to a cutoff. I have a full explanation of why not to do that here:https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html Have one attempt in your fertile window only. (O-3 through O day - have sex only ONE time during these days)

Caffeine does NOT sway blue. That has been completely debunked and I have an explanation of that here genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/56791-vices-swaying.html. Tea very likely sways blue. I got all four of my boys drinking tea and my girl drinking coffee.

You need to pay attention to the overall nutrient content of your food. I can't sign off on foods themselves, I need to know how many calories and how many grams of fat and protein you're eating daily. Aim at 1500-1800 cals a day, 40-50 g protein, and 30-60 g fat. Do not count the protein, fat, and calories in low carb vegetables, and in high carb veg and fruit, count ONLY calories and not protein or fat. If you do not eat enough fat and calories, you will stop ovulating, and if you don't eat enough protein, you may not be able to get and stay pregnant.

No tea. I understand it's going to be hard to cut out but I have seen enough people who had great sways but drank tea, who got boys, that I really do think it's swaying blue somehow (has nothing to do with caffeine, seems to be something in the tea/coffee other than caffeine.)

Diet coke is fine. I prefer you limit artificial sweeteners to 2-3 servings a day in case it could be harmful to health.

[atomic sagebrush]

Coffees hard for me because i really hate it, ill try do excercise everyday for an hour when the boys are in bed i work full time sitting down alot so i definetly got to add excercise in some how.

Oh ok i thought calcium swayed girl, so confused

Can i ask ive read on here that people drink kool aid or crystal light, what is that? Is that the same as diet coke? Is caff free diet coke better?

Ill drop the tea all together

Ive also read sodium free bread is the best but i cant find it anywhere what would be better brown bread or white bread? Finding it so hard to figure out what i can eat as ive reasearched too much and all the sites are conflicting. Atm as pasta seems to not sway either ive figured it would be better to just eat pasta (small portions) and greek yogurts and drink milk lol

Also with the supplements most of them i am supposed to take from end of period untill ovulation but should i take them consistently until i actually start trying or still stop after ovulation?

Sorry about all the questions everyone is so helpful on this site :)

The best study ever done on maternal preconception diet and gender conceived showed that women who were eating the most calcium and magnesium had the most boys. And many of us, myself included, got boys taking cal/mag and gave it up to get girls. But this, I leave up to you to decide, if you want to include it just be sure you are doing only the supplements and not eating tons of dairy foods as I mentioned earlier.

Kool aid and crystal light are just artificialy sweetened drinks. They are ok in 2-3 servings a day. I do not think they do anything for swaying at all, but some people like to include them. I got my girl without them after getting my 4th boy while drinking them, so didn't work for me, but you can drink them if you like.

We have not found sodium to make any difference at all. Most of us have totally given up the sodium restriction and our results have only gone UP since we did. I got my girl eating tons of sodium while getting my 4th boy while limiting it.

There is conflicting info about white vs. wheat bread. We originally thought that white bread was better, but many people have gotten girls with whole wheat and there is also conflicting science there. So I leave that up to you, we honestly don't know which is better and it may depend on whether or not you have PCOS/insulin resistance (in which case you'd do best on whole grains only)

Eating pasta and yogurt/milk is not a healthy prepregnancy diet. I have also seen a lot of people get boys eating that way, because they are eating thousands of calories of pasta and yogurt/milk. So I really suggest you investigate more about the LE Diet. Swaying does not really come down to a couple of minerals in your diet, it's your overall diet as a whole...the calories, fat, protein intake...and so if you're eating lots and lots of pasta and milk you can easily be ingesting massive quantities of calories, fat, and protein and still get a boy!

I am not sure what supplements you're talking about, but cal-mag needs to be all month long, do NOT go off and on that. Cranberry, if you must use it, you need to stop at ovulation since it can cause miscarriage when taken after conception. Foic acid needs to be all month long as well and in fact all through the first trimester of pregnancy - only after the first trimester you should gradually wean off folic by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then you can drop it (but you'll continue taking prenatal then.)

[Logive]

thank you so so much for all the responses i found here, you girls are being so so helpful! by the way, i was wondering same questions as Re5 so I would appreciate a lot if someone could help answering them!

[Re5]

Thank you :) it was day 1 of diet today

Today I ate 23.3g fat and 25.2g protein only ate 700 calories so I think I need to plan my meals better and eat more, I just don’t want to end up putting on weight

Lunch at half 12; low salt pita bread with cucumber and yogurt and a kallo rice cake

Dinner at 7: small portion of pasta with cucumber (no skin) plus pint of milk


I’ll stop the cranberry didn’t realise it was dangerous

Managed to not drink any tea today

I’m planning to start trying in may is 8 weeks long enough for the diet?

I won’t have pasta every day as I know it’s high in calories

Thank you for your help :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yep that's not enough! 30 g fat, 40 g protein, 1500 cals a day minimum (a very small % of people do end up eating 1200-1500 cals but it is only about 3-5% of all swayers. better to start off higher and then cut back over time than to starve yourself and have to eat a lot just to get ovulation going again!)

You can have pasta every day as long as it's within the limits. At 700 calories you have room for the pasta!

8 weeks has gotten ok results, 12+ is better, but for all you know you won't even get pregnant the first month out.

[Re5]

Thank you so much for your help i just have a couple of questions if you dont mind :)

Is peppermint tea okay to have and if it is what is the limit a day?

Also with the rephresh am i supposed to use it before and after intercourse or like a lube?

And i read that alot of people take baby aspirin, i know this question might sound stupid but is that like mini pills or aspirin that babies would have?

Isit best to drink semi skimmed milk/ full fat/ rice milk or almond im not too sure?

Diets actually going okay so far easier than i thought just get really hungry in the mornings but i can deal with that :)

Thank you :D

[ksmom]

Peppermint tea has terrible results for the woman but your DH can drink it. Essay on it here (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7108-saw-palmetto-peppermint-tea-licorice-root-depth-how.html).

Essay here (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/1066-complete-guide-replens-rephresh.html?1066-Complete-guide-to-Replens-and-RepHresh=) on Rephresh. You're supposed to use it 12 hours before attempt and you can use it after as well. It really cuts odds of conception though so keep that in mind.

No baby aspirin isn't for babies (in fact it isn't recommended for anyone under the age of 20 because of the risk of Reyes Syndrome) but originally it was for children to use hence the name. We've found it doesn't sway and it also increases bleeding risks too much as it's a blood thinner. Unless recommended by your doctor, don't take it.

You can have any milk you like within limits unless you have PCOS in which case do ONLY full fat dairy. Almond milk has strangely gotten good results...not sure why but it's interesting!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much for your help i just have a couple of questions if you dont mind :)

Is peppermint tea okay to have and if it is what is the limit a day?

Also with the rephresh am i supposed to use it before and after intercourse or like a lube?

And i read that alot of people take baby aspirin, i know this question might sound stupid but is that like mini pills or aspirin that babies would have?

Isit best to drink semi skimmed milk/ full fat/ rice milk or almond im not too sure?

Diets actually going okay so far easier than i thought just get really hungry in the mornings but i can deal with that :)

Thank you :D

I can't tell you if it's ok for you specifically without a custom plan (since I don't have any of your medical history or anything) but I have an essay that explains the risks and stuff here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7108-saw-palmetto-peppermint-tea-licorice-root-depth-how.html We haven't had good results with it, anyway and it's also really messed up people's cycles.

ks posted the RepHresh essay for you - again, not getting good results at all. If you want to use it, that's up to you, but it should be among the first things to drop to boost odds of conception.

Baby aspirin did not work and proved to have way more risks and side effects than we first believed. We have all but stopped using it for everyone except those who absolutely insist on it. I have all the fine print in this essay http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/7086-how-lower-ph-via-supps-cran-baby-aspirin-aspartame-other-techniques.html

Re what kind of milk, you need to have whatever meets your dietary needs best. If you have PCOS, insulin resistance, or need fat in your diet, you'd focus on full fat (and in fact PCOSers need to have ONLY full fat dairy, no skim). Others may prefer to use skim or part-skim dairy or almond milk (all of which have more carbs, lower fat). Just have whichever option helps you fulfill your dietary needs for the day. If you need fat, it's a good way to have some. If you're already over limits on fat and don't have PCOS you may want to try skim.

You will probably get used to the morning fast - it's hard at first when you're used to eating but you do adjust!

[Re5]

Thank you so much, Ive been reading this forum and your statistics and I just have a couple more questions if you don't mind as im now really confused as your results seem quite good.

1- on your statistics it says drinking a lot of alcohol the total success is 77.27% which is quite high; so I have decided to add in alcohol (don't really drink I never have) how much is 'a lot'? like 3 glasses a night? and how long do people do this for the whole time they are on the diet?

2-alot of other sway sites say avoid caffeine however from reading your statistics drinking lots of caffeine is a 92% success rate- how much is a lot- I hate coffee but from that percentage I have to add it in! how much should I drink a day?

3- other websites say to use a lot of aspartame but again your statistics say otherwise with a 77.78% success rate of not using any- so would you recommend to not use aspartame at all

4- and finally I was so convinced after the research I have done and reading the dr shettles book that I was going to attempt from the last day of my period up until 3 days before ovulation- but after reading your forum I am now really stuck between doing that or abstaining I just really cannot decided as I saw a post on this forum I think where someone had a look at the sperm after abstaining and after attempting a few times and there was more girl sperm from abstaining- please could you help do you know if there's actually scientific research in the attempting after period up until 3 days before?

sorry about all the questions and I am really glad I have come across your forum!

[atomic sagebrush]

Please don't read TOO much into those success rates. DO NOT go into swaying expecting anything better than the overall success rates of the site, which is about 2/3. I have a full breakdown on the stats here. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/43555-thoughts-stats.html

1)If you are not already drinking alcohol, just have 1 or 2 drinks max. We really don't know if more alcohol sways harder and anything more than what you're currently having is enough. We also don't know how long in advance it needs to be. We are erring on the side of 6 weeks but we don't know if that is necessary and many people are only having a few drinks around ovulation. I think it needs to be longer, 6 weeks minimum, but I don't know that for a fact.

2)The other sites are wrong about coffee. I have a full explanation here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/56791-vices-swaying.html. Again, just like with alcohol, please only do more than you're presently having. If someone who never drinks coffee/alcohol suddenly starts drinking a 6 pack and a pot of coffee a day they will make themselves ill. 1 cup is enough.

3)I recommend using either no aspartame or a safe and sane amount of 2-3 servings a day. This amount is approved by the FDA as safe while TTC. I have seen (on those other sites) people who use massive amounts of aspartame getting BOYS and even have some speculation that it may sway blue in larger amounts. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/44710-hypothetical-aspartame-thread.html

4)Whatever you read about "looking at sperm" was probably not on this site. It is IMPOSSIBLE to look at sperm through a microscope and tell the difference between X and Y sperm. That's a myth and has been completely debunked. That is actually why Dr. Shettles has been proven wrong, because he claimed he could do that, but what he was seeing was capacitated and uncapacitated sperm. The reasons why not to BD from AF through a cutoff are spelled out in this thread https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/58359-what-up-bd-thru-o-pink-lately.html

YOU MUST NOT HAVE MORE THAN ONE ATTEMPT IN THE FERTILE WINDOW to sway pink (at least for the first several months of your sway). Our results have shown very, very clearly (and I can explain to you the history of how we learned this, if you want, since it is not obvious in our stats right now) that one attempt in the fertile window is best for pink. Timing doesn't work. Abstain doesn't work. So trying for many attempts with cutoff timing, or many attempts with abstain, is a terrible idea that will undermine your sway and I strongly urge you to stick with the one attempt.

RE scientific support - Scientists have tested timing again and again and again and all the neutral scientists (the ones who were not making money off of or otherwise benefiting from timing methods) found that timing does not sway. And then when scientists went back and analyzed the data from the studies that claimed to find timing worked (again, all of which done by people who were benefiting from timing methods) they found that when ovulation was properly accounted for, even the studies that claimed to find timing worked, actually did not. Even using the same datasets, when ovulation was determined using modern knowledge and methods, timing did not work. So while I'm sure someone can pull some study out of their file folder that claims to show timing works, it doesn't, and it's been as debunked as it is possible for something to BE debunked. We know why Shettles was wrong, the studies using modern technology have shown timing doesn't work, we have proven X and Y sperm live the same amount of time and swim the same speed - it just doesn't work. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

[Re5]

I have decided to do just the one attempt (with 3day cut off for the first couple of months) , is it best that he releases everyday after AF to keep the sperm count low?

Thank you :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Daily release has really not worked. It cuts odds of conception hugely (especially with a 3 day cutoff) and it has gotten significantly lower than the overall success rates of the site - better than 50-50 but only just barely, as opposed to about 66% overall success rates. It is up to you, of course, but if you must do a cutoff I'd probably have him do regular release every 2-4 days instead to ensure there will be enough sperm to survive the cutoff and get you pregnant.

[Re5]

I’ve been on the diet for 6 weeks now, All I have been eating is strawberries, Greek style yogurt; rice pasta green beans and low sodium pitta breads and kallo rice cakes (I have had a couple of cheats like a few crisps here and there and chocolate over Easter, I also went on holiday for 10days was quite good apart from one day I had a burger the rest was pasta and salad) I also cut out all caffeine and only drink Evian and caffeine free Diet Coke. I have cut out meat, had fish about 3 times in the 6weeks and eggs a few times.

First meal (strawberries and yogurt) 10.30am or later

I have been taking calcium and magnesium and baby aspirin and folic acid

DH wouldn’t take anything but he said he’ll start taking the LR when I start my period for two weeks.

I’m due my period soon so not long till I’m going to try my attempt

I plan for him to do everyday release 7-10 days before our one attempt (3day cut off) no orgasm and missionary, maybe get him to have a hot bath before. we got pregnant both times on the day of ovulation first time of trying with our boys, me being on top and I always orgasm multiple times.

I’ve only lost about 4lb in the 6weeks

Haven’t managed to fit in any exercise

I know my cycle very well and usually ovulate on day 16 (I know this could change) Is this a good sway I’m feeling nervous now is there anything else I need to do?

Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you have totals for fat, protein, and calories?

the most important thing here and now is that one attempt. Don't be tempted to have another attempt. You're doing quite a lot that may cut odds of conception, so if you feel like you want to cut something to boost chances of getting pregnant please make it the hot bath or timing or licorice root rather than adding attempts.

[Re5]

I eat around 1300 - 1500 call a day max and 30g fat 40g protein max a day,

I’ve been contemplating wether to have coffee because this site has had good results it’s just hard to decide

Can I ask what Licorice root actually does, does it lower sperm count a lot?

I’m going to definitely do just one attempt as I just feel frequent BDing will just leave a lot of sperm inside which may result in lot of both boy and girl sperm being there when the egg drops (well that’s my thinking anyway)

Do you recommend cutting calories further the week of O?

Do you think having rephresh, frequent release, LR for DH, hot bath, and one attempt will be an extremely low chance of conceiving?

Thanks

[Jossyj6,7]

I eat around 1300 - 1500 call a day max and 30g fat 40g protein max a day,

I’ve been contemplating wether to have coffee because this site has had good results it’s just hard to decide

Can I ask what Licorice root actually does, does it lower sperm count a lot?

I’m going to definitely do just one attempt as I just feel frequent BDing will just leave a lot of sperm inside which may result in lot of both boy and girl sperm being there when the egg drops (well that’s my thinking anyway)

Do you recommend cutting calories further the week of O?

Do you think having rephresh, frequent release, LR for DH, hot bath, and one attempt will be an extremely low chance of conceiving?

ThanksNice question.

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[atomic sagebrush]

You are at the MINIMUM for protein and fat so please do not go below that EVER. 40-50 g protein and 30-60 g fat.

I prefer people are at 1500 and up for cals but since your weight loss is slow, you can continue that if it's working for you.

I strongly recommend coffee. I got my daughter with coffee after getting 4 boys without drinking much.

Licorice root lowers testosterone and raises estrogen and this is supposed to lower sperm count. But unfortunately it's not been effective for us for the past several years and at present is sitting below 40%! I don't truly think it sways blue (please no blue swayers have their husbands take LR!!) but it is obviously not doing anything beneficial so unles syou're a big believer in it, leave it out.

Having high numbers of sperm inside your reproductive tract when the egg shows up does indeed seem to sway blue for reasons we don't totally understand. One attempt all the way.

No, I do not recommend doing anything any different the week of O. Our results on diet have shown very, very clearly that nothing we do for a week helps a sway and it's only being on diet for 8 weeks or more, particularly after 12 weeks, that we have the best success rates. And cutting food intake right before O can delay or even stop ovulation. Please just keep eating what you were eating before.

It will be a low chance of conceiving. People do get pregnant this way but it's not going to be a great chance.