Right kind of fiber? Cleanse?

[Thinkingofthree]

I’ve read the fiber essay and am interested in adding that to my LE diet.
Does it matter what kind of fiber we take? (Fat soluble? Made with psyllium husk? Dietary?). There are a lot of products out there, just want to make sure I’m looking at the right stuff.
Also, what are your thoughts on doing a cleanse? In my fiber searching I came across these cleanse pills: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJ62JT8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_U7FRAbQ9NGVVJ
I feel like I could benefit from a weight loss jump start and also from the supposed energy increase. It doesn’t have to be these exact pills but I am intrigued by the idea of a cleanse in general unless it’s horrible for some reason...

[atomic sagebrush]

it doesn't seem to matter what kind of fiber you take. Get something that you tolerate well and is easy to find in your area.

I do not recommend cleanses. They are a scam, to be quite honest. All they are is some herbal laxatives and fiber that basically make you poop a lot and the fiber makes you think you're cleaning something out but you're just going #2 and emitting the stuff that was in the pill. Nothing is happening, you aren't being "cleansed" of anything, you're just taking a lot of laxatives, which can be harmful when not needed. Plus, the one you posted has several ingredients that may sway blue (flaxseed, lactobacillus) and some that are not safe when TTC (flaxseed, licorice) and then the harsh herbal laxatives, we do not even know how they sway.

[Thinkingofthree]

it doesn't seem to matter what kind of fiber you take. Get something that you tolerate well and is easy to find in your area.

I do not recommend cleanses. They are a scam, to be quite honest. All they are is some herbal laxatives and fiber that basically make you poop a lot and the fiber makes you think you're cleaning something out but you're just going #2 and emitting the stuff that was in the pill. Nothing is happening, you aren't being "cleansed" of anything, you're just taking a lot of laxatives, which can be harmful when not needed. Plus, the one you posted has several ingredients that may sway blue (flaxseed, lactobacillus) and some that are not safe when TTC (flaxseed, licorice) and then the harsh herbal laxatives, we do not even know how they sway.

Okay thanks. No cleanse. I’ve been doing LE diet since the 1st, eating an average of 1500 calories/day and have only lost 2 pounds. So I guess I’m just feeling a bit down on how it’s going [emoji53]

[atomic sagebrush]

That is a good rate of weight loss though. Losing tons of weight super fast has wreaked havoc with people's cycles and it leaves you with no wiggle room over the course of time.

The goal of the LE Diet is NOT weight loss. You can have success with LE Diet and not lose an ounce (and some people have even gained a lb or two, when they were underweight). So don't feel like it isn't working for you just because you haven't lost much weight so far.

Do you think you could be insulin resistant? We do have a variation of diet that may work better for you.

[Thinkingofthree]

That is a good rate of weight loss though. Losing tons of weight super fast has wreaked havoc with people's cycles and it leaves you with no wiggle room over the course of time.

The goal of the LE Diet is NOT weight loss. You can have success with LE Diet and not lose an ounce (and some people have even gained a lb or two, when they were underweight). So don't feel like it isn't working for you just because you haven't lost much weight so far.

Do you think you could be insulin resistant? We do have a variation of diet that may work better for you.

Hmmm how would I know if I was insulin resistant? Are there specific signs? Or would I only know if I had blood work done?

I see a lot of comments that the PCOS LE diet works well - is that the alternative diet you’re referring to? Would it be good to do an alternative diet even if I didn’t have PCOS or insulin resistance?

Sorry for the million questions! 🤣


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[atomic sagebrush]

Do you have trouble losing weight or a history of gestational diabetes? Or even gaining weight on higher carb diets, even when you think you should be losing it?

Yes that's the alternate diet. You can have tendencies towards developing it and then your lifestyle just doesn't support developing it. But the LE Diet, being pretty carby, can aggravate those tendencies. It's gotten great results and I generally recommend switching even if you don't have PCOS - IF you can stick to it and IF it doesn't make weight fly off (I would actually suggest it for everyone except for those two things)

[Thinkingofthree]

Do you have trouble losing weight or a history of gestational diabetes? Or even gaining weight on higher carb diets, even when you think you should be losing it?

Yes that's the alternate diet. You can have tendencies towards developing it and then your lifestyle just doesn't support developing it. But the LE Diet, being pretty carby, can aggravate those tendencies. It's gotten great results and I generally recommend switching even if you don't have PCOS - IF you can stick to it and IF it doesn't make weight fly off (I would actually suggest it for everyone except for those two things)

I haven’t had gestational diabetes although my numbers were higher and closer to the cut off point with my second than my first. I feel like losing weight can be difficult... although I’m sure everyone feels like that to a certain extent I’d think.
I definitely have a lot easier time putting weight on than off. I had to work hard to lose my last 12 pregnancy pounds after DS2 (ate probably an average of <1700 calories/day while bf’ing and working out 5+ times a week for 3 months) and now (after not watching my weight nearly as carefully and stopping working out) I’ve put it back on just from my normal eating habits over the past 9 months.
In the past I’ve only counted calories when dieting not fats/protein/carbs/etc. But we would eat meat everyday and I love pasta. So high protein and carbs.
Based on this do you still feel alternative diet is best?
Some days I’ve been having trouble staying in the protein and fat limits so this may be a less stressful diet for me too which would be good. I’ll review the alternative diet info.
Thanks so much for your thoughts!

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, it certainly doesn't hurt to be on the alternate diet, even if you can only do it 80% or whatever it may still help. :)

I have come to believe that the alt. diet is probably better for everyone, and I"d have everyone do it, but many people will lose tons of weight on it and many more can't stick to it.

[Thinkingofthree]

Well, it certainly doesn't hurt to be on the alternate diet, even if you can only do it 80% or whatever it may still help. :)

I have come to believe that the alt. diet is probably better for everyone, and I"d have everyone do it, but many people will lose tons of weight on it and many more can't stick to it.

Follow up - can you post a link for me of the best summary of the alternate diet? I keep seeing different info and then realizing some posts I’m reading are many years old. Suddenly feeling a bit lost. [emoji53]

[atomic sagebrush]

1500-1800 calories for most (some go up to 1800-2000, a FEW others drop to 1200-1500 but start off eating more than you think you'll need in the long term since weight can fly off on this diet)

50-60 g protein

50-60 g fat

Full fat dairy ONLY, no skim

Little to no sugar/refined white carbs (but many still can tolerate white rice and potatoes fine)

Whole grains if you tolerate them ok (some cannot tolerate whole wheat and have to use only rice/potatoes)

Focus mainly on grains, fruits, and vegetables for carbs.

Low carb veg are free and unlimited, higher carb veg (including potatoes) and fruits, count calories only, do not count protein or fat.

That's it!

[Thinkingofthree]

1500-1800 calories for most (some go up to 1800-2000, a FEW others drop to 1200-1500 but start off eating more than you think you'll need in the long term since weight can fly off on this diet)

50-60 g protein

50-60 g fat

Full fat dairy ONLY, no skim

Little to no sugar/refined white carbs (but many still can tolerate white rice and potatoes fine)

Whole grains if you tolerate them ok (some cannot tolerate whole wheat and have to use only rice/potatoes)

Focus mainly on grains, fruits, and vegetables for carbs.

Low carb veg are free and unlimited, higher carb veg (including potatoes) and fruits, count calories only, do not count protein or fat.

That's it!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!
You are awesome!!!

Just a few clarifications—
Is almond milk in lieu of milk okay? I cut out milk when doing the ‘normal’ LE diet. I’m probably having only a few glasses per week of almond milk anyway. Any reason I NEED to add in milk again?

Why does the weight fly off on this diet when the limits are higher? It seems counterintuitive and makes me feel like I’m not grasping something.

Again thanks so much. Your help and time is so appreciated. [emoji4]

[Linni]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!
You are awesome!!!

Just a few clarifications—
Is almond milk in lieu of milk okay? I cut out milk when doing the ‘normal’ LE diet. I’m probably having only a few glasses per week of almond milk anyway. Any reason I NEED to add in milk again?

Why does the weight fly off on this diet when the limits are higher? It seems counterintuitive and makes me feel like I’m not grasping something.

Again thanks so much. Your help and time is so appreciated. [emoji4]


Following for atomic‘s answer;)

[atomic sagebrush]

No, you can't substitute almond milk for full fat dairy on the alternate diets because the almond milk is very high in carb. We see best results with one serving of full fat dairy a day because something in that dairy fat is really good for fertility. It's up to you, you don't HAVE to add the full fat dairy in, but just absolutely do NOT have skim dairy.

The limits of fat and protein are higher, cals are the same. It's because empty white carbs (and more of them, since you'll eat a higher % of carbs on the standard LE Diet) keep weight on and eating more protein/fat/healthy carbs makes you lose weight rapidly for many people as it improves your insulin response and lowers blood sugar, forcing your body to burn stores of fat to keep blood sugar up in normal range.