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Sagirl1
April 8th, 2018, 08:18 AM
Hello I currently have two gorgeous boys and my DS1 is 2 months old. We want to try once more for my much wanted girl. I'm exclusively breastfeeding and have one round of clomid available for when we do actively try. I wanted to ask if there is any evidence to support having a child within a year post partim sways girl or not much difference. If in fact it does sway considerably then we would try then but if not we would wait a bit longer. Just interested to hear stories or evidence on This topic ? Many thanks ladies

Parying4agirl
April 8th, 2018, 08:50 AM
Never heard of that but would be interesting to hear views/stories

ksmom
April 8th, 2018, 09:58 AM
Having closely spaced children does seem to sway pink a bit BUT it isn't a guarantee. I know plenty of women with children close in age that are all boys. You should try for another baby when you're ready, not because having another baby so soon after may up your odds of pink a little. My oldest two boys are 21 months apart and it was hard for awhile, especially when I was pregnant with DS2 I struggled to take care of DS1 because I had such bad morning sickness and migraines. Even after he was born it was difficult because I essentially had two babies. The 3 year gap between DS2 and DS3 has been much better because now my older two are more independent and are able to help. It is just something to consider because while, yes, you could get a girl, you could also have a third boy so you should be prepared for that. Do what feels right for you and your family.

atomic sagebrush
April 8th, 2018, 01:11 PM
I believe with every fiber of my being that close child spacing sways pink. STRONGLY. The reason I believe this, is because in swaying, the things that your body does, that naturally suppress your ovulation and ability to get pregnant (your body's natural birth control mechanisms) all seem to sway pink. Things like losing weight, eating less fat, exercising too much - all these things trigger the body's natural birth control and they all sway pink. Since your body "doesn't want to" get pregnant quickly upon having a baby, it uses natural methods to suppress ovulation and make it harder for sperm to meet egg and this likely sways pink. Declined condition and lower fertility sway pink, and after you have a baby, you are both in declined condition and lower in fertility.

The problem is you cannot always tell, by looking at people IRL, that this is a thing. Here is why. It is because the people in the lowest condition and with the lowest fertility, do not get pregnant. The people who have the best condition and highest fertility are both more likely to get pregnant and also more likely to have boys. So the group of people who are easily able to conceive shortly after having a baby, are also the ones the most likely to have boys due to condition and fertility. The people who are the most likely to have girls due to condition and fertility, can't even get pregnant at all. This skews the observable results and makes it look more like 50-50 when really it is a strong pink sway.

Imagine the numbers like this...let's say for the sake of argument that women who are able to get their periods back and get pregnant within 6 months of having a baby are 80% likely to have boys overall because they are in good condition and very fertile. But with close child spacing, they end up only 50% likely to have boys. This is a HUGE pink sway, going from 80% likely to have a boy, to 50% likely to have a boy...but people would not be able to tell based on observing, that anything is happening at all. And if the people who are 80% likely to have girls due to declined condition and/or fertility can't get pregnant till 12-18 months or even longer postpartum (by which case their condition would have improved as would their fertility) then that's a huge number of potential girl conceptions removed from the pool of people we are looking at. It's just not something that is possible to see by looking at people and hearing their stories - or even doing studies on it, really.

Now all this having been said I am not trying to pressure you to try before you're ready. none of these things are 100% and i think it's best for everyone to do what will work best for their family as a whole. You can always get a boy even with close spacing, and so I would not push yourself to try before you're ready because then you could possibly end up with closer spacing and additionally a boy anyway.

atomic sagebrush
April 8th, 2018, 01:25 PM
Never heard of that but would be interesting to hear views/stories

Just to share my personal story for whatever it's worth I have two with closeish age gaps. between my 3rd and 4th, they are about 21 months apart. I got pregnant with my 4th catching the first egg while breastfeeding (well, second, after my first period at about 7 months postpartum my cycle stopped for several months and I got the egg before even getting another period) so pretty easily. So my cycle resumed fairly quickly, and I got pregnant easily. Then, with my 5th, my period did not come back till 18 months postpartum, and it took us 6 months to get pregnant. This is the longest by far it ever took my cycle to come back and also the longest it's ever taken me to get pregnant. And I got a girl. So you have to consider the reasons why it took my cycle so much longer to come back, and why it took me longer to get pregnant (declined condition and fertility) and can't just see that based on the number of months between babies.

mandyp85
April 8th, 2018, 03:47 PM
My closest age gap was 16 months and I had 2 boys. One of my biggest age gaps was 3 and a half years and I had a boy first then a girl. I think, like atomic said, if you can get pregnant so quickly post partum then you are more set for blue to begin but it would still help your pink sway. But like others have also said it doesn't guarantee you a girl and so ttc when is right for you and your family. Good luck.

onebigwish
April 8th, 2018, 05:28 PM
My boys are 22 months apart from each other. But i was young and very fertile at that time too...

Parying4agirl
April 8th, 2018, 05:44 PM
My sis had a girl and then boy
They are 16 months apart

Sagirl1
April 8th, 2018, 06:28 PM
When you conceived your girl were you still exclusively breastfeeding? How many times a day? There is a 26 month age gap between DS1 and DS2 , and I got my period back about 2 months after breastfeeding him and then once off the Implant I got pregnant first try so maybe I am super fertile? I will see how it plans out maybe and doing diet, BF, excersie and McKinnon to reduce fertility and just hope that it does reduce it but I guess I will never know if I am in good condition or not

MiaMelb
April 8th, 2018, 07:29 PM
I didn't bf for long after DD1 and hence got my first pp af only 9 weeks after her birth. We then started ttc about 7 months pp and conceived DD2 4 months later. I put on a lot of weigh during my first pregnancy so was dieting and exercising 2-3x a week while ttc. Makes me think there is a sweet spot between those who may naturally be very fertile (and sway blue) and those who are in declining condition pp (sway pink).

Sagirl1
April 9th, 2018, 09:57 AM
Thankyou! What do you mean by sweet spot ? I think I'm very fertile so I want to do everything to lower my condition and make me more girl friendly

Sagirl1
April 9th, 2018, 09:59 AM
Just to share my personal story for whatever it's worth I have two with closeish age gaps. between my 3rd and 4th, they are about 21 months apart. I got pregnant with my 4th catching the first egg while breastfeeding (well, second, after my first period at about 7 months postpartum my cycle stopped for several months and I got the egg before even getting another period) so pretty easily. So my cycle resumed fairly quickly, and I got pregnant easily. Then, with my 5th, my period did not come back till 18 months postpartum, and it took us 6 months to get pregnant. This is the longest by far it ever took my cycle to come back and also the longest it's ever taken me to get pregnant. And I got a girl. So you have to consider the reasons why it took my cycle so much longer to come back, and why it took me longer to get pregnant (declined condition and fertility) and can't just see that based on the number of months between babies.


When you conceived your girl were you still exclusively breastfeeding? How many times a day? There is a 26 month age gap between DS1 and DS2 , and I got my period back about 2 months after breastfeeding him and then once off the Implant I got pregnant first try so maybe I am super fertile? I will see how it plans out maybe and doing diet, BF, excersie and McKinnon to reduce fertility and just hope that it does reduce it but I guess I will never know if I am in good condition or not

atomic sagebrush
April 9th, 2018, 02:38 PM
When you conceived your girl were you still exclusively breastfeeding? How many times a day? There is a 26 month age gap between DS1 and DS2 , and I got my period back about 2 months after breastfeeding him and then once off the Implant I got pregnant first try so maybe I am super fertile? I will see how it plans out maybe and doing diet, BF, excersie and McKinnon to reduce fertility and just hope that it does reduce it but I guess I will never know if I am in good condition or not

You WILL never know. There is NO WAY for us to know what gender anyone's baby is going to be. We just can't tell and I think the more you sit and think about it and try to analyze every sign, it undermines your sway anyway by putting you in the "control freak" zone.

atomic sagebrush
April 9th, 2018, 02:39 PM
When you conceived your girl were you still exclusively breastfeeding? How many times a day? There is a 26 month age gap between DS1 and DS2 , and I got my period back about 2 months after breastfeeding him and then once off the Implant I got pregnant first try so maybe I am super fertile? I will see how it plans out maybe and doing diet, BF, excersie and McKinnon to reduce fertility and just hope that it does reduce it but I guess I will never know if I am in good condition or not

yes, I was still exclusively breastfeeding BOTH boys and many times a day.

MiaMelb
April 9th, 2018, 08:59 PM
Thankyou! What do you mean by sweet spot ? I think I'm very fertile so I want to do everything to lower my condition and make me more girl friendly

I was just meaning that for those couples wanting to conceive quickly after a previous birth there might need to be a bit of a juggling act. You will want to still be relatively fertile (possibly swaying boy) as you're wanting to get pregnant quickly despite the fact that your body is likely not wanting to get pregnant too soon pp. But you're also wanting to be in a declining maternal condition to sway pink. I was just meaning that if you push a pink sway too hard too soon after a birth with the hope of getting pregnant within a year pp (in hopes of having the close spacing to sway pink) then you may reduce your chances of getting pregnant at all. Hence you may not end up conceiving with the close spacing you were aiming for. It may need to be a balancing act of fertility vs declining condition. Not sure if I've explained my thinking well but hope you get my idea.

Sagirl1
April 10th, 2018, 06:00 PM
Yes that makes perfect sense Rhanks very much , I think I'll start to try to conceive few months before 1 year pp and if it takes longer then that's fine , I'll still be pink swaying and lowering my fertility condition so all is good.

Sagirl1
April 11th, 2018, 09:12 AM
Thanks atomic, just very confusing as I keep hearing about Irish twins ? Being that most likely to have same gender if under 2 years gender gap? What are your thoughts with that theory? Also are there gender dreaming results or evidence to support conciving under a year pp sways girl etc?

atomic sagebrush
April 11th, 2018, 11:33 AM
That's what I'm trying to explain to you. There can be no evidence because women who are in good condition and are highly fertile have more boys, but that doesn't mean close child spacing is not swaying pink. If someone comes into conception with an 80% chance of a boy, and then does something that gets them to 60% likely to have a boy, that is a huge pink sway, but looking at it from the outside it would appear to sway blue. That is the problem with looking around at people's results - it doesn't really tell you what is going on, because some people are more likely to have boys and girls to begin with and without correcting for that, you can't know what is really happening. There are also many other considerations to account for, such as breast vs. bottle feeding (bottle feeling means your cycle will generally come back sooner), which could potentially skew results.

The reason why I am very strongly convinced that close child spacing sways pink is biology. Everything that suppresses fertility, especially those natural birth control methods your body uses, has swayed pink for us. Being within 6-12 months postpartum means your body is not going to be in 100% condition or fertility and that sways pink. We just can't see this in the population because of all the other factors governing who is actually getting pregnant that quickly. But it's still a thing.

If you don't believe this is a thing, don't use it for pink (I think it's awfully hard on the body anyway). I don't care what you guys do and am not going to sit here and try to talk anyone into TTC within a year of having a baby because I don't think it's best for anyone physically or sanitywise. I really do strongly urge blue swayers to wait between babies, though.