No period, not pregnant

[dreamofdaughter]

Hi ladies,

Last month was our first month trying. I am not pregnant and I still don't have my period. I am cd 31 now. I have NEVER gone past cd 30 in terms of AF showing up so I am pretty sad and worried I have now lost ovulation. I know AS, you mentioned it is not that common to have an anovulatory cycle, but I just feel something is not right. I am sometimes a couple days early but to go past day 30 - this only happened to me the second period after my period came back after breastfeeding and even then it was normal timing from the third period onward.

Last month, I was feeling miserable and weak on the diet/exercise and I cut out fiber supplements about 3 weeks ago and reduced exercise to 4 times a week from 6 times a week. I feel much more "normal" now but I am pretty devastated that AF is nowhere in sight.

I do have this weird crampy sensation that feels like pressure you get when your period is about to start. But I have no blood at all, not even spotting.

So my question is, for anyone who *may* have inadvertently lost ovulation, how long does it take to come back? I don't know how much I weigh because I only have a scale at my gym but I will get one this weekend to make sure I am putting on a couple of pounds. I do feel like I look less thin, my mid section looks a little more chunky, and I definitely feel like I have more energy, so I am assuming I am better nourished. At this point, I just want my period back cause we do really want another baby and I am not young. Ideally, I would like to conceive by November at the latest.

I feel like I totally messed up and DH was so excited that I might be pregnant and now I do not even HAVE a period to get pregnant :'(

[4blue2pink]

i really hope af turns up soon, isnt it cruel how everything is all in line when your not ttc but soon as you are things go awry :( you could have ovulated very late this month which then pushes af later too, i hope that is the case for you and that things get back on track next month, im sorry i cant be of any more help i hope you get your bfp very soon xx

[4blue2pink]

sorry to comment again but its just struck me that when i was younger (before all babies and not ttc) i would randomly get a cycle up to 42 days long then return to my usual 28-30 days, it wasnt often maybe one a year (cant remember in that much detail!!) but it did happen for no apparent reason and would go back to normal after, i really hope its the same for you!!

[dreamofdaughter]

Thank you so much for your good wishes, 4blue...

I hope I just ovulated late too but my gut tells me I did not. It's funny because all cycle I felt like something is so weird. I almost feel like I had a PCOS month based on my LH readings not really having a proper peak and drop. But I don't have PCOS.

Trying to wait patiently...never have I wanted to bleed so badly!

[4blue2pink]

i dont know much about this im sorry.. i can only imagine how frustrating it must be!! if you dont ovulate do you not have a period? i thought you had bleeding anyway as some people dont know they arent ovulating until they start ttc and get tested (happened to a friend of mine, normal af but no bfp after months.. turns out shes infertile with both tubes completely blocked :( ) not trying to scare you in any way, just using this as an example of no ovulation not meaning no periods, fingers crossed for af for you!! (feels very odd saying that!!) xx

[atomic sagebrush]

You can have a DELAYED ovulation, even delayed for quite some time, but this doesn't mean the cycle will be anovulatory. Anovulatory cycle is when you don't ovulate but eventually your estrogen level will drop and your uterine lining will slough off. Not at all the same thing as ovulating late, and then getting a true period.

I think you should have an attempt. The crampy feeling sounds like it could be related to ovulation so I'd be in with attempt to cover and then every 4 days from here on in till AF starts.

Ovulation takes a varying amount of time to come back. Some people it comes back the very next month perfectly normally, others go for 3-6 months with spotty, irregular ovulation.

What I DON"T want you to do is stop attempting. Then you really WILL start wasting time. Be sure you're having regular unprotected sex from here on in every 4 days (MOnday/Thursday pattern, not those days per se, but that many days apart). You will most likely ovulate eventually if you haven't already and this will ensure you're in with an attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

i dont know much about this im sorry.. i can only imagine how frustrating it must be!! if you dont ovulate do you not have a period? i thought you had bleeding anyway as some people dont know they arent ovulating until they start ttc and get tested (happened to a friend of mine, normal af but no bfp after months.. turns out shes infertile with both tubes completely blocked :( ) not trying to scare you in any way, just using this as an example of no ovulation not meaning no periods, fingers crossed for af for you!! (feels very odd saying that!!) xx

It depends on the person. It's pretty rare for people on this site to get a "period" every 28 days if they are not ovulating. It can happen but it is in the extreme, extreme minority (I can literally count on one hand the times that this has happened and all but one of those people were NOT getting regular bleeds every month without ovulating, just on occasion.) I can only recall ONE person who was having regular cycles and not ovulating, and it was very far from clear as to whether that was a normal state of affairs for her or had only happened just in that one month and then she drew the conclusion that it was always happening to her.

Most people on here have delayed ovulation, but they do ovulate eventually, and then will get their period about 12-14 days after ovulation occurs, even when ovulation is several days/weeks late.

When you have a true anovulatory cycle, what typically happens is that people will go quite some time, generally longer than a regular cycle, and then their estrogen will drop for whatever reason and this triggers a bleed. It's not a period, it's a breakthrough bleed. It typically occurs over the course of months and NOT once every 28 days (again, this is pretty rare)

Are you sure your friend was actually not ovulating or simply that the eggs couldn't get down the blocked tubes? This is two different things. If she was ovulating, then the eggs just stayed up at the top of the tubes till they died and hormonally, she was having a period, it's jsut that there were never any eggs that could be fertilized and thus she couldn't get pregnant. It's not the same circumstance as someone who is legit not making/releasing any eggs at all and is only having bleeding because their estrogen suddenly drops. Now, it's of course possible that she could both have had completely blocked tubes and been not ovulating at the same time but that's not going to be the norm for 99.9% of people.

[4blue2pink]

thankyou for explaining Atomic, i think you may be right about my friend, i only know what she has chosen to tell (i dont want to pry into a very upsetting situation..) what i do know is that she conceived her children very easily then re-married and ttc with new husband, nothing happening.. went to docs who ran tests and said she wasnt ovulating.. she then underwent some type of keyhole surgery involving dye that showed both tubes were completely blocked, they dont know what is blocking them but they tried to unblock by "forcing/flushing" the dye through during surgery but it failed :( she is diagnosed as unexplained infertility which has occurred at some point in the last 5 years since her youngest was born, shes only 30, the only option they now have is to raise the money for ivf

[dreamofdaughter]

Thanks AS and 4blue.

Atomic, so if I could be ovulating, my LH test would be positive, right? I am going to go take a test right now. I took one yesterday and it was false.

[atomic sagebrush]

thankyou for explaining Atomic, i think you may be right about my friend, i only know what she has chosen to tell (i dont want to pry into a very upsetting situation..) what i do know is that she conceived her children very easily then re-married and ttc with new husband, nothing happening.. went to docs who ran tests and said she wasnt ovulating.. she then underwent some type of keyhole surgery involving dye that showed both tubes were completely blocked, they dont know what is blocking them but they tried to unblock by "forcing/flushing" the dye through during surgery but it failed :( she is diagnosed as unexplained infertility which has occurred at some point in the last 5 years since her youngest was born, shes only 30, the only option they now have is to raise the money for ivf

Awww, poor thing - I hope and pray they are able to get the money together to do IVF!!

That would be a very rare situation (to be both not ovulating but having regular periods, and having oth tubes blocked). I don't think anyone who is reading this should now start thinking that is happening to them, because it almost certainly isn't. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks AS and 4blue.

Atomic, so if I could be ovulating, my LH test would be positive, right? I am going to go take a test right now. I took one yesterday and it was false.

And you took a test and it was positive, yes?? i want you to have attempt like I said above because all this stuff you're describing sounds ovulation-y. :)

[4blue2pink]

Awww, poor thing - I hope and pray they are able to get the money together to do IVF!!

That would be a very rare situation (to be both not ovulating but having regular periods, and having oth tubes blocked). I don't think anyone who is reading this should now start thinking that is happening to them, because it almost certainly isn't. :)

thankyou, its so so rare the doctors are baffled which just makes it worse because they cant get answers :(

[4blue2pink]

everything crossed for you dreamofdaughter!!

[dreamofdaughter]

Hi ladies,

I just wanted to update this because even though AS and I have been discussing on my private thread, I want to make sure anyone else who might experience something similar gets some reassurance.

I did take an LH test and it was very clearly positive. I had a very strong cramp sensation, like period pain all evening yesterday. It was not on one side like my ovulation pain but felt like BAD cramps across my pelvic area. DH and I were planning on dtd but I felt so terrible and nauseas that I decided to just sleep and let whatever was happening to me take its course. And, come to think of it, it was not just pelvic pain, my lower back was really hurting too!

Backtracking a bit...since I was supposed to ovulate last month, I have had very unusual (for me) discharge which looked to me like ewcm but the timing was really weird as well as the amount. Now, I normally produce a lot of ewcm but since I started swaying the amount has decreased. But what I was seeing was a lot. It was after "supposed" ovulation AND it lasted pretty much until today. So, I assumed I must have some kind of yeast infection. I don't often get YI though since I cut dairy out of my diet. I took an anti-fungal pill once I confirmed I was not pregnant (so day 28 test since it was very clearly negative) and I did a boric acid insert which my ob/gyn suggested years ago to use for YI (but I don't think you can use it if pregnant which is why I was waiting for the test result). Even with the pill and the insert, the discharge did not go away. So I went to the Dr and he said maybe it is BV. Well, I have never had BV so I was a bit worried cause then I started googling and saw BV was possibly tied to PID. (Sometimes google is *such* a bad idea...). So, of course, given I was having bad pelvic pain, I thought, I must have somehow gotten PID. Maybe from swimming too much in the ocean on my holiday last month?? No clue. Definitely not from an STD. I know it sounds nuts from me to think maybe PID but this pelvic pain was so abnormal for me, and come to think of it, it started around week 3 of my cycle (making me get my hopes up it was implantation pain). I get very minor cramping during AF but typically only one or two days not days and days on end. And, because the pain wasn't localized, it didn't even occur to me it could be OV because for me, my ovulation pain is usually one-sided.

Ok, on with my long story...so my vaginal swab turned up negative for BV and yeast and everything else he tested for. And I know they had a very good sample cause I did the sample collection myself and made sure I got some of the discharge.

Atomic said this all sounded like hormones causing me to produce ewcm as my body was trying to gear up to ovulate. I think she was bang on correct! Why? Because I woke up this morning and the discharge was gone AND the pain is gone and I feel pretty normal again (no nausea). DH and I had an attempt late today, we probably missed OV but worth a shot anyway. LH test is still positive as of today. Not that it really means anything as it could stay positive after I ovulate and the test is reading the number on the way down.

Thank you 4blue for your support and thank you to AS!!! for your help. I have to say, I went into the custom plan thinking paying for the plan was all I really needed but the coaching you have given me and the reassurance is truly priceless. Things really make sense and it's so impressive how well you can piece together what is happening from these threads. You're definitely a swaying guru! ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much! Very helpful to others! :) Really appreciate it!

[4blue2pink]

so glad you know whats going on now :) it must be such a relief!! everything crossed to see a bfp announcement from you soon!!

[dreamofdaughter]

Thank you 4blue! Honestly, even if no BFP, if I just get my period back in a couple weeks I will be very happy! At least then we can try again!

[Noemi2017]

I also didnt have ovulation for 3 months. I added 4 eggs weekly and full fat yoghurt daily and that month my ovulation returned:)

[dreamofdaughter]

Thanks for the encouragement, Noemi! I hope you get your BFP soon! :)

[Noemi2017]

Thank to you dreamofdaughter, i hope your ovulation will return soon:pray:

[dreamofdaughter]

AF started this morning with light spotting and then heavy flow by lunch. 50 days since last period. I have gained a solid 4 pounds and my weight is hovering around 106 now (5'3). I've gone off LE for about 2 weeks now so I don't want to attempt this cycle esp because my flow started in the morning instead of at night like it was with swaying. Just glad to have period back. LE starts tomorrow.

[atomic sagebrush]

I mentioned this elsewhere but just for anyone else reading - I suspect the heavy period was because of the longer than normal cycle and I do suggest trying this month.

I am finding people are reading wayyy too much into the "heavy period/light period" concept. I do not want you guys to skip months on this basis as it's just an interesting thing we're monitoring and I do not think you can predict in any way the gender you will conceive on this basis.