TTC boy this summer... sway buddies?

[aira22]

Hi everyone! I'm new but old lol. Registered years ago and tried swaying (here and on IGsite) and even went HT but without "success" (in terms of having the DG ) LOL you all know we love our opposite babies like crazy! So.. DH and I decided to give swaying one more chance. Lately I have been quietly stalking almost all threads about ttc blue on here but that shall end now!

I would love to find some ladies to share the crazy sway journey to having our DSs :babym: in the end! Who's in?

I will post my sway tactic as soon as possible, but right now I have to decorate a birthday cake as long as DD3 is still sleeping :giggle:

Looking forward to finding many sway buddies soon!

[Throwaway_panther]

Oh wow, did you transfer an XX then? We're in a very similar boat -- we had two spectacular failures of IVF and moved to swaying (had swayed for well over a year beforehand but finally went HT after several unexplained losses). Currently 10 weeks pregnant after swaying but will probably be a girl -- with the luck I've had, I can't see it finally having turned around :P But I bargained with the universe -- if this pregnancy gives me our son, I'll go back for those frozen XX we have!

[atomic sagebrush]

let me know how I can help!

[ChezIBY]

Panther, youre expecting???? OMG, congratulations!! How do you feel?

Geez, I was so happy to read that that I forgot the original post, sorry - aira22, best of luck! I'm going to sway blue sometime in the future but my period has yet to return as I am still weaning/BF my first, and I plan on letting it run a few cycles to make sure I'm back on track (cycles used to be regular as clockwork before DD) before attempting anything. Let us know how it goes for you :) :) Fingers crossed, blue dust etc :)

[aira22]

FX for a healthy (boy)pregnancy panther!! Why do you think it will be a girl? Is it just a feeling or do you have hints?
I love the bargain idea! I also have frozen XX, but I also have already 3 lovely :ballerina:
Yes, the HT experience was really expendable for me, but I wanted to try everything (was always thinking of NBP signature lol). When you read about OHWs you want to be one of them but forget they are the exeptions and you will likely be on the other side..
I didn't transfer XX, just my XY transfers failed twice. I could write a loooong story about my IVF rollercoaster but thats not the thread here. I don't want to bore natural swayers. is there a 'venting and crying over failed IVF cycles thread'? lol

Thanks ChezIBY for your well wishes. Yeah I hope this time around it will happen for me.

Atomic thanks for your helpfulness! I had quite a few questions but since this site is so informative and almost everything I wanted to know was asked before, I could find al the answers by reading old posts. So you already helped me a thousand times without knowing haha I should say already THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT WORK here!

[tkelly621]

Hi! Four beautiful amazing little girls here . Ages 10,8,7,3. We really hadn't planned on anymore but the fever has hit me and I don't think there's any going back now. Would love a boy to complete our family bc this will definitely be the last. We did try swaying blue last time but I think wanting a baby quickly got the best of me. I am ovulating within the next couple days but we are waiting until t least next month to start trying. ( I don't want winter babies ) I just ordered opks and a couple supplements to try. Would love someone to chat with about it bc I don't plan on telling anyone . Don't want to hear the comments about having 5 kids or about hoping it's a boy

[aira22]

This is how I plan my sway with attempt in about 6 weeks:

I have to say, that I came to the point where I don't reeeeally believe in swaying, but I prefer it over doing nothing. Also I'm a 'project girl' lol I'm going to try a moderate sway although I know I will get swaycessed at some point.

DIET:
Having breakfast of course. Bread with Eggs or cheese or ham. Cereals with full fat milk. As I can't prepare different menus on each meal, I need to find foods that my kids will eat as well. And of course it needs to be done fast in the morning. Unfortunately they don't like avocado on wholemeal rye bread topped with seeds
Green Tea with lemon. At the moment I mix 1 bag of green tea with 1 bag chamomile tea which makes the taste less bitter. I think theres nothing to say against chamomile!?

snacking. I really can't avoid snacking as I am involuntarily eating everything my kids start to eat and then decide not to eat... I don't want to throw food away, so I'm eating it lol the best way to keep the blood sugar up
this will be all kind of fruits (primarily bananas, apples, berries), cookies, crackers... most of it are carbs... Ok I need to add nuts here.

lunch is usually leftovers from dinner and if necessary I'll add some eggs or meat to have enough proteins.

snacking again

dinner would be something like pasta with meat sauce, fried rice with vegetables and meat, pizza, fries with sausages .. again it needs to be something my picky children would eat.

bedtime snack is usually potato chips, nuts... side note: when I conceived my girls this was usually ice cream or chocolate.

I realize I'm totally lacking dairy and wide range of vegetables :think:

SUPPS:
I'm not too strickt with that as I get distracted much by my kids and I forget to take the extra dose of this and that at a certain time of the day...
but I do take:
Multivitamin (it has almost 100% RDA of everything) once a day
Folic acid 400mg 1-3x/d
Cal + VitD 1x/d
CoQ10 3-6 times a week.
Fish oil 1000mg every other day (I read that we should take only 500mg daily, so I'm doing the 1000mg eod, do you think that is ok?)
I'm going to be more serious with that in the following time leading up to real attempt.

FREQUENCY:
BD every 2 days after AF till O. 3 attempts when +OPK. My problem here is that my cycles are short and I ovulate on CD 11-12 already and AF takes almost a week. There is not really time for regular BD between AF and O. I'll aim to fit in 1 or 2 times unprotected before the 3 BDs.
Think I will use preseed and Guaifenesin for sure.


DH: Has stopped running, but complains about getting fat already, that was his only sport at the moment. He's very stressed at his job and very lousy with taking any supplements. I can get him to take the Multivitamin 3-4 times a week maybe. He also almost stopped smoking cigarets and drinking alcohol. There is not much more to get him to do for swaying.

Let me know what you think of this! All comments are welcome! :kissy:

[tkelly621]

Aira... how many kids and what genders do you have now? Your life sounds so similar to mine especially when it comes to eating. I already eat a pretty boy friendly diet BUT I do love ice cream and chocolate... both no no for boys? I definitely ate it everyday with all four of my girls. I also have a short cycle. Why bd so much for a boy? I was planning to only BD after positive ovulation test. Am I wrong on that? Hmm... I thought I had things pretty figured out

[tkelly621]

Also... DH drinks beer on weekends .... is that okay for boy sway? Or should I make him stop for now. ?

[tkelly621]

I used preseed with my last baby and got a girl, so now I'm hesitant. I do have a lot of ewcm normally so maybe it was to much?

[Throwaway_panther]

I'm so sorry your transfers didn't work aira! I am so jealous of the HT OHWs... the process was so hard, expensive and heartbreaking for so many of us! And haha, I honestly am just trying to convince myself it's a girl to prepare myself. I have slight feelings it is (though DH and my bff think boy, and DH was right on DD), but mostly influenced by a dumb dream I had early on and me thinking that after two IVF cyfcles and 7 losses before, I worry DH can't make healthy boys...

And Chez, I'm so happy to see you! And wow, I was just thinking, "Is she already weaning?"... then I realized your little one turns one NEXT MONTH! That year went by so fast!! I can't believe how time has flown! And I'm feeling ok! This pregnancy has been so easy that I forget I'm pregnant all the time (except for today, where suddenly clothes started fitting snug!). Definitely anxious all the time though haha

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: yes we've been having people take 1000 EOD when they can't find 500.

The BEST thing your husband can do is quit smoking! That is the greatest!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I used preseed with my last baby and got a girl, so now I'm hesitant. I do have a lot of ewcm normally so maybe it was to much?

It's fine to skip it if you feel more comfy that way! I never touched the stuff and I have 4 boys, altho the woman who invented it has 5 LOL!!

[aira22]

Hi telly621! I totally understand you not telling people. I'm also not telling anyone as having 3 kids is already little bit freaky over here. Can't wait to see my MILs face when we tell her I'm expecting a 4th child haha. :drama: I'm surrounded by people who think nowadays 2 kids is more than enough and then a woman should go on with her job.
I was like that once and of course I thought I would have a son first and then a daughter and then I'd become a successful business woman ;)
I also think the 4th one will be our last. I really enjoy having kids and staying at home so if there wouldn't be some limiting factors I'd have 5 more kiddos. :laundrypole: But we life in a flat, not a house so it gets crowded already or lets say cuddly :) , money is tight and I'm already 35. With my IVF try I found out I'm already near menopause, so I hope I can have at least one more baby soon. Of course I'd be thrilled it was a boy.

Soooo lets do this together! I will ovulate in one week approx. but am going to wait one month too for our attempt. I'm really thankful that DH is out of town during O because I already just cannot wait lol. I know I would rush this sway because I want to be pregnant and regret afterwards not having taken the time to do it all ...'neatly' ;). My DD2 and DD3 resulted from hastily sway attempts and just wanting a baby fast. And of course other things that I am aware of now after reading several essays from atomic. (small time gap between babies, IG-diet, conceiving after a loss, wrong sups, etc..)

Let July be our month to add that little brother to our girl bunch! :boybear2:
Looking forward to reading about your tactics

[aira22]

AAAhhh sorry, I'm late with my posts.. I should update the page before posting lol

tkelly:
I have 3 daughters (5,3,1)

I think ice-cream and sweets are ok, but empty calories and you should avoid that if you don't want to gain too much weight. also it makes your blood sugar spike and fall down quickly when it should be on a steady high.

yeah, as much BD as possible after +OPK :ttc: having only one attempt (with waiting 4 days prior) got me DD2, that was shettles timing I think.

I think no alcohol would be better. But my husband has meetings and events where he 'has to' drink with business partners :rolleyes: he promised me to limit that though...
If your DH is willing to stop drinking beer for the sway, then make him ;)

Preseed.. hmmm.. I also used it with DD3. I'm also not sure bout this one.

[aira22]

I can understand your worries panther. I was convinced we simply can't have a boy. That I can't carry one. I even tried forcing fate by transferring healthy XY 6dHB but it resulted in BFN! twice! And that was the outcome of 4 stimulations over 2 years (with one DD in between conceived naturally lol) so I am totally done with that!!! as you said its too expensive and heartbreaking. My husband said I completely changed in this phase and he wanted back the wife he married no matter if there will be a son for us in the future. We won't go back there.
That was only one month ago... I started to google about this and found the one of atomic's essays where it says that there is nothing to this theory. that really gave me hope and ecouraged me to try one more sway now.
I'm happy for you having an easy pregnancy! is it different from the one when you had your daughter?

[aira22]

Is it enough to lift children all day instead of lifting actual weights? :pickuphappy: Is there enough physiological effect when I carry my youngest child of approx. 26 lb in the back carrier doing everyday stuff.
The exercise is the hardest part for me. I'm too lazy and too tired for 'real sport'... but do you think this is a crucial part of the sway and I should bring myself to do a regular training?

[tkelly621]

i have began to walk everyday but i am limited to exercise bc i tire easily and my muscles suck. I also have a three year old so i have to keep up with her :)

[tkelly621]

im with you Aira, i feel like i cant have a boy at this point. His dad has two of each, my parents had a mix also... not sure how much that comes into play.. my sister in law also has 4 girls.. just lost a baby at 12weeks though. They are convinced they cant make boys either but funny enough her husband is one of 4 boys.

[Throwaway_panther]

I can understand your worries panther. I was convinced we simply can't have a boy. That I can't carry one. I even tried forcing fate by transferring healthy XY 6dHB but it resulted in BFN! twice! And that was the outcome of 4 stimulations over 2 years (with one DD in between conceived naturally lol) so I am totally done with that!!! as you said its too expensive and heartbreaking. My husband said I completely changed in this phase and he wanted back the wife he married no matter if there will be a son for us in the future. We won't go back there.
That was only one month ago... I started to google about this and found the one of atomic's essays where it says that there is nothing to this theory. that really gave me hope and ecouraged me to try one more sway now.
I'm happy for you having an easy pregnancy! is it different from the one when you had your daughter?

We might be a little different in that I spoke with Braverman who's first theory was that my first loss was a boy (which I always thought) triggering an autoimmune reaction causing losses of boys. But our cycles yielding only unhealthy boys, and two of theme even having the same trisomy (which a geneticist told us was unusual) has me thinking I am cursed with my choice of husband :P since I think I could carry a monkey at this point based on my fertility. Just very hard to have had two professionals say something to this affect and not take it into consideration! DH is one of 3 boys and 1 girl, but his brother and dad both had issues with fertility as well (though both had more boys than girls!). But we likely lost girls in all our losses too.

But yes, this pregnancy is night and day from DD'd, and from my losses too.

[krkr]

following

[tkelly621]

interesting .. and sad for you. Are you pregnant now Panther?

[tkelly621]

how much folic acid is necessary? i got 800mg ones plus whatever it in my diet.. do i take my prenatal as well? I dont want to take to much as i have weird reactions to things sometimes

[aira22]

this is what changed my mind:

https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/47852-we-only-dont-make-boys.html

I hope I don't have an allergy to boy embryos lol I believe I had a chemical recently. I didn't test because I was scared - didn't want a surprise BFP without swaying but my temps stayed up for 4 days after expected AF which never happens and period was super heavy and prolonged. Maybe this was a boy? Of course I was sad because I had my hopes up to be pregnant (stupidly that's what I wanted after IVF BFN) but I was also relieved bc I wanted to sway lol super crazy I know. I'm so grateful for this website because in real life I'd be declared insane :hide: and here it's all normal haha

[aira22]

I found this about folic acid:


FOLIC ACID and other B vitamins Of course, everyone swaying should take at minimum 400 mcg of folic acid. The B vitamins are water soluble vitamins and your body uses what it needs at the moment and excretes the rest. To get the most out of them, you should take smaller doses at several times during the day.

To best absorb B vitamins, you should take them along with Vit. C (see below) and with other B vitamins. Excess alcohol consumption and birth control pills can interfere with folic acid absorption, as can green tea and high salt intake. The TTC boy diet and baking soda drinks are particularly hard on your folic acid levels and ALL blue swayers should be taking extra folic acid - minimum of 2000 mcg.

hope you can make something of this

I dropped the high sodium intake already. Until few weeks ago I thought it was a thing...I'm not messing with baking soda either so I think something between 400mg and 2000mg should be ok. this info is from the 'complete guide to taking supplements' (https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/1628-complete-guide-taking-supplements.html)
which is from 2011 and maybe thoughts on that regarding blue sways have changed since? Maybe Atomic can shed some light on this?

[aira22]

Is there anyone with thoughts on gelatine? Didn't read much about that lately. I remember recommendations to take gelatine (with pineapple or other fruit juice?), but that was some years ago... Is that a past thing?

[Sora]

Joining you girls, TTC in July and already mother of two little girls aged 3 and 2 !

I'm also wondering about supps right now. Got my hands on vit D 1000 IU. Wondering about acid folic and other vits (A, C, E) but nobody at home seems able to give any information whatsoever :mad: "ask your doc blabla". Prob is I don't want to talk about trying for another baby now, for a lot of reasons... Many prenatals don't seem to offer enough and I'm a bit worried about missing something or doing something wrong again and failing.

As for timing, frequency... DD1 was conceived 3 days before O and DD2 was spot on on O-day, both from one lonely attempt so this time I'm doing things differently, having DH release every 2-4 days with or without condoms and we will BD from OPK+ to the day after O, night-morning-night like atomic recommended.

[aira22]

Welcome Sora!
I'm TTC in July as well! I'm going to use this June cycle as a training just without BD lol. Today is CD7 and in 2 days I'll start to use OPKs to get used to them.

At what day time do you guys test for O?
I used these tests rarely but got good results at 16pm. This time round I want to do it 2 times a day.

And I'm temping, but I find it very hard to do it right since I almost never get to sleep several hours undisturbed before waking up. How do you do it with kids that wake you up regularly? Does it even make sense or can I leave it out bc that way there is no reliable information on ovulation anyway?

also interested in clarification of supp dosages.

[Sora]

Hi aira !

I did test OPKs for the first time during my May cycle, with great success. I've never had to use it before because my cycles are very regular but OPK just confirmed things.

I've heard many people say that early and/or late afternoon are the best times to test for O, provided you didn't drink too much just before doing the test and have not gone to the bathroom a couple hours ago. OPK + arrived the exact day I thought it would and lasted for as long as I thought before fading.

I don't do temp cause you need to do it at the same exact hour everyday which is nearly impossible with toddlers around and a little illness can throw it off even if you don't feel the symptoms so not sure about it. I'd rather stay with OPK's and calculations.

If I may ask, how long is your cycle ?

[aira22]

My cycle is about 26 days. I think I'll ovulate on CD12 but I'm not sure, that's why I need a training cycle to practice OPKs and temping. I also have to make a supps plan bc I noticed I forget to take them or can't remember if I took them already lol

[aira22]

Sora, I just finished reading your thread. Very interesting. Cool, that you have a swaying doctor behind you. May I ask what his role in the sway is? Does he take blood and tell you about mineral levels? Does he give you suggestions on what to eat? what does he say about exercise/lifting weights?

[Sora]

Sora, I just finished reading your thread. Very interesting. Cool, that you have a swaying doctor behind you. May I ask what his role in the sway is? Does he take blood and tell you about mineral levels? Does he give you suggestions on what to eat? what does he say about exercise/lifting weights?

I haven't been able to get another appointement with the doctor since I lacked time and money. He is the one behind all recent books and updates on French Gender Diet. Yes, we spoke about minerals level, you know French Gender Diet believes calcium sways pink and potassium sways blue. Although he really insisted on NOT banishing calcium altogether. He just wants blue swayers to get it from other sources than dairy and substitutes (rice, almond milk etc...) since there were failed sways both in people still keeping up with their dairy intake and/or using substitutes a lot. He said that the only thing I had to do was simply raise my potassium levels above calcium/magnesium. He doesn't take blood to see mineral levels anymore because it doesn't tell much about the overall changes the body is undergoing.

Also he doesn't recommend potassium or cal/mag supps anymore to any swayer since it's never as effective as slowly getting them through diet. He compared taking these supps to trying to fill a bottle of water by dumping a full bucket over it -> a bit of water will still end up inside the bottle, sure, but most of the bucket's content will end up on the floor.

We didn't talk about exercises but did talk about the possibility of some medical conditions such as PCOS and some medical treatments (Clomid or other things) interfering with the sway. But there's not enough studies about it to be sure. He just asks people to stop the BC pill as soon as they start the diet and have their DHs use condoms instead until everyone is ready to TTC. And to wait another month before TTC if you recently had to take medicine of some sorts. Of course people who need everyday medical care for serious health conditions will have to try anyway while taking their meds and pray it doesn't sway opposite.

Also he doesn't believe in timing either. But we didn't talk about frequency.


My cycle is about 26 days. I think I'll ovulate on CD12 but I'm not sure, that's why I need a training cycle to practice OPKs and temping. I also have to make a supps plan bc I noticed I forget to take them or can't remember if I took them already lol

Okay, well, yes, it normally should be CD12. So the OPK+ should appear at the very least the afternoon before. I've got a 31 days cycle, O-day falls on CD17 and I've had OPK+ appear on CD16 without fail (started the OPK from CD10 to be sure).

[tkelly621]

Ugh yeah. I made the mistake of starting to use opk on cd 14, not realizing that shorter cycles make for earlier ovulation usually 🤦🏼*♀️ So I missed it completely this month. We weren't ttc this month anyway but I wanted to get a good idea of O day .

[Sora]

Don't worry tkelly, you're not the only one to have made that kind of mistake :gloomy:

It's because docs, scientists, websites, studies (whatever) only mention the average 28 days cycle with O-day on CD14 ! The end result is a lot of people believe O-day is always on CD14 whatever the cycle lenght... The only thing true is that the cycle does end 14 days after O. But O itself can happen anywhere from, let's say, CD8 to CD20 !

[tkelly621]

I actually didnt even have my tests yet anyway, so it didnt matter :-p next month ill be on top of it :)

[Sora]

That's the attitude ! :agree: You go girl ! I'm sure it will all work fine !

[aira22]

I'm doing OPKs now at 6pm, from tomorrow on I want to do them twice a day (11am and 6pm) to be really sure when LH surge starts and ends. CD10 today.
Also my Proboiotics arrived and I feel quite prepared :cool: Tomorrow I'll go big shopping for nuts, juices, lemons, meat, eggs, ... carrying home all that stuff will be my weight training for tomorrow.

How long are your cycles tkelly and sora? Did you bulk buy food and ration it to have an overview what to eat daily?

[Sora]

My cycle is 31 days. It's CD1 today for me. Will test OPK again around CD17.

I've ordered One A Day Woman online, finally found one that shipped to my country ! I should be ok too with sups now. Already taking some vit D. As for food, I'm going by the day. I just keep in mind that I should have meat twice a day. I'm not much of a nuts lover except for chestnuts so going with that only. I buy lot of juices though. My doc told me I should drink at the very least 3 full glasses of them everyday. I buy only 100% fruit juices too. That reminds me though that I will soon have to buy whole grain cereals again... :cool:

[aira22]

Ah.. so this is your TTC cycle already or are you waiting another cycle?

Today morning I felt so confident about all the things I'm going to do, and now I read a thousand more things I probably should add to the sway. :suprise: is anyone using brewers yeast?
Also I was out at the playground with the girls today and when we came home I strait went to the toilet and forgot to take a sample for my OPK :rolleyes: so it is still a challenge to think of everything... I already set an alarm for the next days.
Sora, are you going with the chestnuts just because you like them or are they good for the sway in particular? And the juices, by mentioning 100% fruit, do you mean smoothies?
I'm drinking lemon water as well as fruit juice (from the box... may switch to freshly squeezed but its so expensive) and green/black tea and thinking of ACV drink as well, wondering about gelatine, maybe wheatgrass shot 1-2x/week...let's not forget water. lol, too much drinking!! Still need to figure out amounts here!

I'm also thinking of adding fast food/convenience foods to my diet lol bc it has salt and meat. probably not the best quality but it is something I usually don't do. For sure my kids would love it. :cheer::cheer::cheer: I just feel, I need to change habits... And I don't seem to have gained weight till now (on and off HE for 1 year, more strictly for 4 weeks now). Any thoughts on that?

And I started a weekly pilates class now! woohoo! I know, once a week is not much, but better than nothing right? I am just soooo lazy when it comes to sports. I mean, I already get a lot of exercise through my everyday life with the kids and household and stuff. I just can't get myself motivated for youtube videos :oops:

[Throwaway_panther]

Don't worry tkelly, you're not the only one to have made that kind of mistake :gloomy:

It's because docs, scientists, websites, studies (whatever) only mention the average 28 days cycle with O-day on CD14 ! The end result is a lot of people believe O-day is always on CD14 whatever the cycle lenght... The only thing true is that the cycle does end 14 days after O. But O itself can happen anywhere from, let's say, CD8 to CD20 !

A cycle can end anywhere from 15 days and sooner after ovulation, FYI! A healthy luteal phase is a anywhere from 11-15 days, and some would argue even 10 days can be fine.

[Sora]

A cycle can end anywhere from 15 days and sooner after ovulation, FYI! A healthy luteal phase is a anywhere from 11-15 days, and some would argue even 10 days can be fine.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend or making a mistake... :sad: I just mentionned this because I've had no less than three different ob-gyns telling me as such. Thought it was mostly true and at least, better information than when the medias make everyone believe that O is always at CD14. :(

[Sora]

Ah.. so this is your TTC cycle already or are you waiting another cycle?

Today morning I felt so confident about all the things I'm going to do, and now I read a thousand more things I probably should add to the sway. :suprise: is anyone using brewers yeast?
Also I was out at the playground with the girls today and when we came home I strait went to the toilet and forgot to take a sample for my OPK :rolleyes: so it is still a challenge to think of everything... I already set an alarm for the next days.
Sora, are you going with the chestnuts just because you like them or are they good for the sway in particular? And the juices, by mentioning 100% fruit, do you mean smoothies?
I'm drinking lemon water as well as fruit juice (from the box... may switch to freshly squeezed but its so expensive) and green/black tea and thinking of ACV drink as well, wondering about gelatine, maybe wheatgrass shot 1-2x/week...let's not forget water. lol, too much drinking!! Still need to figure out amounts here!

I'm also thinking of adding fast food/convenience foods to my diet lol bc it has salt and meat. probably not the best quality but it is something I usually don't do. For sure my kids would love it. :cheer::cheer::cheer: I just feel, I need to change habits... And I don't seem to have gained weight till now (on and off HE for 1 year, more strictly for 4 weeks now). Any thoughts on that?

And I started a weekly pilates class now! woohoo! I know, once a week is not much, but better than nothing right? I am just soooo lazy when it comes to sports. I mean, I already get a lot of exercise through my everyday life with the kids and household and stuff. I just can't get myself motivated for youtube videos :oops:

No it's not my TTC already thank God ! DH doesn't seem much into it lately, I wonder if he's just afraid of a failed sway or changed his mind about a 3rd child :nails:

I'm with you worrying about not doing enough... I've wondered about yeast, idk... And you're not the only one forgetting to do your OPK ^^" it's weird having to think about taking a sample when you rush to the toilet. :suprise:

I've heard chestnuts were particularly good for blue but no, I'm just taking them cause they are the only nuts I could eat hourly without feeling nauseous :giggle:
I didn't think of smoothies, more like... just the juice you know ? Some fruits drink are just mostly water and added sugar, 100% is just fruit juice and only that. Sorry if I'm rambling ^^"... I've had some vegetable juice too.

Ah fast food ! Of course the kids will love it :giggle: ! It has been so long since I've had those...

You're doing youtube vids too ? I started one month ago with fitness class, sometimes a bit of pilates. A bit lazy too and it's hard with kids around, I feel for you ! :drama:

[Throwaway_panther]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend or making a mistake... :sad: I just mentionned this because I've had no less than three different ob-gyns telling me as such. Thought it was mostly true and at least, better information than when the medias make everyone believe that O is always at CD14. :(

Don't be sorry! You didn't offend at all! I just mentioned it so anyone reading too knows more what our cycles are like! If someone is assuming ovulation is 14 days before the end of their cycle, they might miss their window!

OBGYNS are often used to just following their medical school knowledge, which is often outdated and incorrect (especially for women's health) -- here in the U.S., they still initially date pregnancies by LMP assuming a 28 day cycle even though only an estimated 14% of women have cycles like that :P

[tkelly621]

Ugh! well, i might not be able to sway at all. Took a HPT this morning and got a line... im praying its not positive for real but i am also getting positive or dang close to positive OPK which i should get my period soon.. so there shouldnt a line , right??? I have been crying all morning and sick to my stomach. We have been talking about it but havent even started TTC and didnt want to at least until july/even august we were thinking bc i screwed up OPK's for this month. UGh!

[Sora]

Don't be sorry! You didn't offend at all! I just mentioned it so anyone reading too knows more what our cycles are like! If someone is assuming ovulation is 14 days before the end of their cycle, they might miss their window!

OBGYNS are often used to just following their medical school knowledge, which is often outdated and incorrect (especially for women's health) -- here in the U.S., they still initially date pregnancies by LMP assuming a 28 day cycle even though only an estimated 14% of women have cycles like that :P

For real ? :omg:

To my knowledge, here now it's becoming systematic to ask you about not only your LMP but also your cycle lenght, whether it's regular or not, and when you think you might have ovulated/DTD lately... well, everything that can help pinpoint the exact date of conception. Also they often offer to do an ultrasound to confirm, well, quite a lot (date of conception, if things are off to a good start, if there are more than one heartbeat...)

[Sora]

Ugh! well, i might not be able to sway at all. Took a HPT this morning and got a line... im praying its not positive for real but i am also getting positive or dang close to positive OPK which i should get my period soon.. so there shouldnt a line , right??? I have been crying all morning and sick to my stomach. We have been talking about it but havent even started TTC and didnt want to at least until july/even august we were thinking bc i screwed up OPK's for this month. UGh!

Wait calm down dear, I can't understand, take a deep breath first, driving yourself sick won't help anything right now...

So what you're saying is you're close to your period but you had a positive HTP ? Or you're close to OPK ? And you DTD lately ?

[aira22]

oh tkelly! don't be sad! why did you take a HPT yet? Did you suspect something? I was in a similar position last cycle. I had a feeling that I might be pregnant but hoped not. I didn't dare to take a test and I was even late with my period. But eventually AF showed up. So be patient and wait a few days more and try not to drive yourself crazy in the meantime ;)

Hope it's not for real so you can have a good sway before you real BFP and have your mind put at ease.
But if it is (a line is a line), congrats!! It might be your boy already!

[aira22]

I'm with you worrying about not doing enough... I've wondered about yeast, idk... And you're not the only one forgetting to do your OPK ^^" it's weird having to think about taking a sample when you rush to the toilet. :suprise:

I've heard chestnuts were particularly good for blue but no, I'm just taking them cause they are the only nuts I could eat hourly without feeling nauseous :giggle:
I didn't think of smoothies, more like... just the juice you know ? Some fruits drink are just mostly water and added sugar, 100% is just fruit juice and only that. Sorry if I'm rambling ^^"... I've had some vegetable juice too.

Ah fast food ! Of course the kids will love it :giggle: ! It has been so long since I've had those...

You're doing youtube vids too ? I started one month ago with fitness class, sometimes a bit of pilates. A bit lazy too and it's hard with kids around, I feel for you ! :drama:

So... I now ordered Brewers yeast and Gelatine. I bought chestnuts vegetable juice and grapefruit juice (forgot to pick up pineapple juice). Now I must be ready, right? :giggle:
I got juice that is 100%, but from concentrate (I always thought concentrate was bad) but freshly squeezed is ridiculously expensive.

keep on 'rambling', that's what a chat tread is all about. At least I like it :happy:

I also don't eat fast food often but maybe it could help because it is something we didn't do the we got our girls. I just want to change everything here lol

I meant, I started an actual pilates class, where I go OUTSIDE :suprise: (it's like an 1h holiday lol)
... the youtube videos, I can't really do them seriously. As you mentioned the kids aren't of any help. As soon as I want to start class, they will start to mess around with the laptop turning it off and on, sit in front of the screen, need to get something from up the shelf, start a fight, need help on the toilet, need a drink, think I am bending down just so they can climb on me, want to be picked up, have a tantrum, .... you mommas know what I'm taking about haha

[Sora]

So... I now ordered Brewers yeast and Gelatine. I bought chestnuts vegetable juice and grapefruit juice (forgot to pick up pineapple juice). Now I must be ready, right? :giggle:
I got juice that is 100%, but from concentrate (I always thought concentrate was bad) but freshly squeezed is ridiculously expensive.

keep on 'rambling', that's what a chat tread is all about. At least I like it :happy:

I also don't eat fast food often but maybe it could help because it is something we didn't do the we got our girls. I just want to change everything here lol

I meant, I started an actual pilates class, where I go OUTSIDE :suprise: (it's like an 1h holiday lol)
... the youtube videos, I can't really do them seriously. As you mentioned the kids aren't of any help. As soon as I want to start class, they will start to mess around with the laptop turning it off and on, sit in front of the screen, need to get something from up the shelf, start a fight, need help on the toilet, need a drink, think I am bending down just so they can climb on me, want to be picked up, have a tantrum, .... you mommas know what I'm taking about haha

Oh yes I know :hair: especially the fights and tantrum and wanting to be picked up juuuust at the right time (although they completely ignored you for the past hour). Happens also when you answer your phone or are testing your OPK :tissue:

I wanted to do a class outside too but husband already started one for himself so money is already short in that field :tissue: But I don't mind too much getting stuck with youtube videos since I tend to feel sick when in public.

100% but from concentrate ? Oh maybe ? That's weird I don't remember mine being from concentrate ? Will have to check again.
I agree though, freshly squeezed is so expensive (but so good !).

Yeah you should be ready now ! Is gelatine THAT good ?

I feel the same about wanting to change everything lol ! Mostly for us, it would be frequency I guess and meat.

[aira22]

I'm not sure about gelatine, just heard of it and it's something easy and cheap, so I thought it can't hurt... but it is sooo disgusting (at least for me lol)


I think I'm about to ovulate any moment and try to notice every tiny thing that's going on down there. My OPK was positive on CD12 10am. I really like to pin down O and hope it's exacly the same next cycle which will be my TTC cycle. Of course I know that everything will be different then and I'll be freaking out lol.
I quite messed up my temping the last days by staying up late and hardly getting sleep. Can't use these temps. Well, I'll know more when AF starts.

How is everyone else doing with their blue sways?

tkelly, did you test again already or did AF even show up?

[Sora]

I'm not sure about gelatine, just heard of it and it's something easy and cheap, so I thought it can't hurt... but it is sooo disgusting (at least for me lol)


I think I'm about to ovulate any moment and try to notice every tiny thing that's going on down there. My OPK was positive on CD12 10am. I really like to pin down O and hope it's exacly the same next cycle which will be my TTC cycle. Of course I know that everything will be different then and I'll be freaking out lol.
I quite messed up my temping the last days by staying up late and hardly getting sleep. Can't use these temps. Well, I'll know more when AF starts.

How is everyone else doing with their blue sways?

tkelly, did you test again already or did AF even show up?

So OPK was on time :) !

Gelatine alone seems yuck >< ! Why not in a panacotta :running: ?

Temping is so easy to mess up >< that's why I prefer OPK.

I think I'm doing quite okay with the 9 servings of fruits between juices, pureed fruits and whole fresh fruits. But need to buy chestnuts again. Meat has also been a bit hard to swallow lately, the weather was warm and stormy and I'm not very hungry at times like this. How is your diet going ?

[aira22]

So OPK was on time :) !

Gelatine alone seems yuck >< ! Why not in a panacotta :running: ?

Temping is so easy to mess up >< that's why I prefer OPK.

I think I'm doing quite okay with the 9 servings of fruits between juices, pureed fruits and whole fresh fruits. But need to buy chestnuts again. Meat has also been a bit hard to swallow lately, the weather was warm and stormy and I'm not very hungry at times like this. How is your diet going ?



Yeah, OPK was as expected :)

My diet is going ok. could do better but its not easy to have that much fruit and vegetables. Or that much food in general... Also the juice is something completely unnatural for me. I only drank water and sometimes herbal tea. Now I feel my teeth rebelling against all that sugar and acid lol.
I cooked some eggs and have them in the fridge, so I can have them as a snack or for a fast breakfast. I always said I eat breakfast but in reality it's that I serve breakfast to the girls, help them eating and wipe spilled drinks, I pick up dropped spoons, settle fights over the last pice of fruit and if I'm lucky I manage to do their hair. Then "our" breakfast is over and after the next challenge (get dressed to go out) we rush to kindergarden. The only thing I get to eat is bites of the kids left overs in between running around (sounds so sad lol). So I'm in fact somehow skipping breakfast... :omg: just didn't notice till now lol.

I'm getting somehow nervous already, since it's THE 4 weeks before day X now haha.
Just found out that my VitD supp is more a Calcium supplement with a tiny VitD dose so I ordered a VitD-only supplement. Hope it arrives soon.

What do you think of a questions only thread for us summer boy TTC-ers? :hugs: to have all our concerns in one place that atomic would read because its no chit-chat thread? I think I'm going to start one... I didn't dare to do so because we are in the free forum but I think she mentioned in your thread...so why not?

[baby42019]

We’re going to try next month, and now I’m nervous. I’ve been trying to pin down O with opks and got a positive on CD 15, and it was still pos late afternoon CD 16 and then I ran of tests and baby was sick, and hubby was gone, so I was out of luck.
Trying to stick to the HE diet is killing me. I’m not used to eating so much so often.


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[aira22]

I can totally understand you baby42019!
I am too nervous now. :nails: I'm trying to get into full on swaying mode lol and it's hard!! I'm counting days and hope I'll get a BFP fast! I'm having trouble to think of all the eggs and nuts and dates and fruits and the folic acid supps and the probiotics and fish oil and the OPKs and green tea and lemon water and juice drinks (reminds me of buying robitussin and coconut water) all day long when you have 1000 other things to do.

But let's try to relax and imagine how our effort will be rewarded!!! OOHHMMMMMM.......:ttcboy::xy::bluecheer::bigsmile:

[Sora]

We’re going to try next month, and now I’m nervous. I’ve been trying to pin down O with opks and got a positive on CD 15, and it was still pos late afternoon CD 16 and then I ran of tests and baby was sick, and hubby was gone, so I was out of luck.
Trying to stick to the HE diet is killing me. I’m not used to eating so much so often.


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At the very least baby42019, you have a good idea now of when OPK+ may happen. I had trouble too before with sticking to HE diet, I feel like I'm going to put on weight before it's all said and done despite exercising (don't need that ><). But now I've gotten used to eating more and idk about you all but I feel a bit... stronger ? I mean, it's like I am more energetic, feeling full all the time. It's not bad per se. Snacking would be the hardest, I've never EVER been that much of a snacker. I try not to get hungry and use fruits for snacking, it makes me feel a bit better than eating something else...


I can totally understand you baby42019!
I am too nervous now. :nails: I'm trying to get into full on swaying mode lol and it's hard!! I'm counting days and hope I'll get a BFP fast! I'm having trouble to think of all the eggs and nuts and dates and fruits and the folic acid supps and the probiotics and fish oil and the OPKs and green tea and lemon water and juice drinks (reminds me of buying robitussin and coconut water) all day long when you have 1000 other things to do.

But let's try to relax and imagine how our effort will be rewarded!!! OOHHMMMMMM.......:ttcboy::xy::bluecheer::bigsmile:

Do you have a LCD writing tablet aira ? You could use it to keep tabs on what you're eating/taking ? When I started the diet, I used a notebook but I've had some probs lately and it has been sleeping on my desk... but I do use my tablet still. Some models can even stick on fridges :highfive:

[tkelly621]

Sorry ladies.... FALSE alarm!!! haha i took an HPT because i was having cramps at a very odd time in my cycle and about time that implantation would occur, so i took a HPT and an OPK at the same time just for fun. ( i have a ton of them so why not ) ..... so apparently when you dip them together and they touch, the ink from the OPK can bleed into the HPT causing a line. I waited til the next day and took a FRER but it was negative.. im glad! i wasn't quite ready yet and because i screwed everything up this month, i had no idea when ovulation actually happened so i would have gone my whole pregnancy wondering .

So, anyway.. My diet is already pretty boy friendly.. i have put on about 15pounds over the winter and have been jogging and doing some light exercising trying to lose some of it BUT have been unsuccessful, i am nowhere near overweight.. however, i am as heavy now as i was when i gave birth to my last child so i am not comfortable with my body right now and am afraid to get pregnant and gain a TON of weight and then not be able to lose it. This will be my fifth baby.

Are you ladies planning to use Preseed? Im afraid to use it becasue i used it with my last and SHES a she :-p haha BUT i was not super serious on swaying. we only BD once the same day my OPK was positive

[Aisha11]

Hi ladies! I am also swaying blue this summer, may be August, because I am just beginning the diet. We have two pretty girls and DH also has 2 girls from his ex wife.
So, 4 girls in our family. I found a lot of information here and really believe in success, but some points make me nervous.
DH is smoking cigars and not very happy to give up, also he has a lot of cardio and he is a sweet tooth.
Also I don’t want to gain any weight. I am 63kg and my height is about 167sm, with enough muscle mass.
I always skipped breakfast for all my life and had pretty good lunch and usually no dinner. And I am sure I ll gain on HE with a lot of carbs, fruits and juices. Is it possible to hold my weight on HE?



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[aira22]

tkelly: that's great! So you're back in the game. Now you can have a good sway before your BFP. I'm on a boy friendly diet for at least one year now as well but having the extra calories and supps put into the game now. Only the exercise part is hard for me lol.

I'm as well no sure about the preseed. I used it with DD3, so... don't know. But for sure I'll use Guaifenesin. This cycle my CM was almost non existing. Though drinking lemon water and green tea.

did you sway with any of your daughters? I did with two of them lol



Hi and Welcome Aisha11!
I think it is definitely possible not to gain to much weight if you are exercising enough. But you should not loose weight on the boys diet!
My DH won't change his lifestyle much as well, so it's on us ladies. But we can do it! :cheer:

[tkelly621]

I have been on a pretty boy freindly diet for awhile now also... i have issues with my blood sugar so i have to eat REAL food every couple hours or i feel pretty lousy. I have taken supps for years too .. just added a couple more.

As for my other children... I had no idea about swaying nor did i care what i had my first go around.. we actually avoided sex when i had EWCM bc it grossed me out.. had no idea it was "fertile" time. Hence, a girl. Second one, again.. we were just wanting a baby so we did it whenever..... third was a complete shock... totally not planned( found out i was pregnant when my second was only 5 months old)..... then the fourth, i had read into gender swaying but didn't wanna get to crazy about it... we tried a couple things... ate a few "boy" friendly things, used preseed, and BD ON the day of my positive OPK. This time, i plan to wait at least 24 hours and then do it a second time 48 hours later. thats the plan anyway, but i ovulate somewhere around the 4th of July, so not sure how that'll pan out since we always have plans and are out late.

AF showed up today, so now im feeling the pressure! haha, if i dont get a positive feeling about when Ovulation is occuring, im not gonna go for it this month.. we really arent in any hurry. I actually go back and forth in my head with it bc of how sick i get :( its miserable and i dont wanna be nauseous and puking for the rest of the summer. IF i got pregnant first try, i would be about 8 weeks or so when we go on vacation and i've done it newly pregnant before and it was NOT fun. Beach + heat + nauesea = NOT FUN! haha

[tkelly621]

i should have asked atomic about collagen... i drink it everyday for back/neck pain. Not sure if it has any affect on swaying one way or the other?

[aira22]

oh poor thing with all the nausea in your pregnancies... I'm actually looking forward to that bc I was never sick with my girls and hope that if I'd feel different, it's also the opposite gender lol. But I can imagine that a holiday wouldn't be fun when sick (and having 4 kids running around haha)! how old are your girls? Mine are 5,4,2 so still a good deal of :running::fight:
I for sure am going for it next ovulation. I find the eating so much and having so many drinks and the supps and doing exercise and thinking of everything quite hard. So I hope the sway works out fast and I get a baby boy soon! :giggle: AND I'm almost 35. So, no time to waste.
I'll be ovulating around the 13th.

Yeah, ask her! (you have to make a new thread) I also would like know whats the difference between collagen and gelatine in a nutritional aspect.

[tkelly621]

MY girls are 10,8,almost 7(july 10) and my youngest turned 3 in May... theyre all pretty calm kids for the most part.. thank god.

I would be ecstatic to not have the sickness this time around.. i would automatically assume it was a boy or there was no baby growing in there for real. haha It sucks when absoleutely NOTHING helps... and no relief even after throwing up. I lost 10-15lbs with each one of my pregnancies, which this time.. i could afford to lose. Im about 15 lbs over what i wanna be right now anyway. maybe wouldnt be a bad thing.. but no, its not fun... i feel like a bad mom to my other kids when all i wanna do is lay around. I need to get that all out of my head and i have before.. obviously -- have done it 4 other times... but this time i am fully preparing myself and thinking about it to much

[Sora]

Strange it seems that none of my recent posts did appear :worry:

Anyway, I too have had nausea for both my pregnancies tkelly, but the worst was with DD1, I went through EVERY symptom, a by-the-book pregnancy if you can call it that. Each month there was something new to add to the list. Also, the placenta was weird and there were legitimate fears at the second trimester of it not being able to support the baby to the end :tissue:

DD2 was a walk in the park despite the nausea.

But for both I remember the intense stomach burns. I never did have stomach aches before so I was quite stressed out when it started. It's something I'm certainly NOT looking forward to and like aira, I hope this one will be different in lots of good ways. I'd like to know the kind of pregnancies my friends always talk about, with minimal symptoms and energy to spare :running:

My girls are 3 and 2. Lots of work haha !

[aira22]

Hey girls, how are your diets going? I'm slowly getting used to the amount of food. Also getting a routine with the daily to do list :)
I noticed something. since I'm on this diet, I somehow lost my sweet tooth!! Do you feel the same? I stopped craving chocolate and cake and want burgers and fries lol. maybe it's because I don't have low blood sugar episodes anymore.
I had my first garlic clove today and just want to warn you guys :prof: DON'T chew it up raw. I thought it couldn't be that bad but it IS! lol

[tkelly621]

I crush my garlic into tiny peices and put into my food when its almost done cooking.. that way its still pretty raw, but its small and its mixed with other food.. example - burgers :-p

Love me some burgers and fries!! I am doing fine on the diet since its pretty much what i already eat like. CD5 here! should ovulate sometime within the next week. EEEEKKKK!!! not completely sure we're ready this month so may put it off another month of two. We'll see how it plays out.

I do have somewhat of a dilemma when it comes to the diet. I know Magnesium sways girl, but i have had bloodwork done and am on the very low end( having alot of symtoms of defient magnesium) so, now i have supps but am hesitant to take them.. maybe ill wait til the TWW? Ugh. so hard bc i want these symtoms of feeling horrible to go away but dont want to mess up my sway either.

[aira22]

OMG, I had this garlic taste in my mouth for 2 days!! lol I mix it into food now ;)

I'm excited tkelly!!! please keep us updated!

I'm waiting for AF to arrive next week so things are slowly getting serious here as well.

I think atomic said that minerals probably don't sway. So if you need them to feel better I wouldn't hesitate. But if you believe in the mineral idea and your symptoms are not too bad, then wait till TWW. May help with implantation cramping as well :D
Maybe Sora can tell us more on the Magnesium idea, I think she is following a mineral based diet.?

[Sora]

I crush my garlic into tiny peices and put into my food when its almost done cooking.. that way its still pretty raw, but its small and its mixed with other food.. example - burgers :-p

Love me some burgers and fries!! I am doing fine on the diet since its pretty much what i already eat like. CD5 here! should ovulate sometime within the next week. EEEEKKKK!!! not completely sure we're ready this month so may put it off another month of two. We'll see how it plays out.

I do have somewhat of a dilemma when it comes to the diet. I know Magnesium sways girl, but i have had bloodwork done and am on the very low end( having alot of symtoms of defient magnesium) so, now i have supps but am hesitant to take them.. maybe ill wait til the TWW? Ugh. so hard bc i want these symtoms of feeling horrible to go away but dont want to mess up my sway either.

You're trying to keep an eye on the minerals too tkelly or have you read something on the forum about magnesium ? Cause I read that atomic don't believe in calcium swaying pink anymore (but potassium would still help with blue). Was there some post I missed ?

I'm not quite sure magnesium sways cause I've always been very low on it when conceiving my girls. If you feel you miss it too much, maybe listen to your body and take the supps ? It wouldn't do for you to conceive while feeling weak... :worry:

Still on the fence about calcium though. I miss milk and all but calcium was one of the minerals I always had in huge amounts and it didn't help with the blue dust at all haha ! And as I often said, most of my friends with boys absolutely hate dairy, with the exception of the cheese on pasta/pizza. It's an all out war to have them drink hot chocolate or get them near a fondue or even some kind of yoghurt. Can't help but think that had I been more like them, I would already have my baby boy now. :tissue:

[tkelly621]

i thought i read somewhere on there that magneisum shouldnt be higher than calcium and potassium but maybe that was debunked? i decided to start taking it anyway... it says to take 4 a day, but im just taking 1 or 2 for now. Should ovulate by the end of the week. I am feeling the pressure and so nervous. As much as i dont wnat to find out the sex of the baby if i get pregnant, i am not one to be patient when it comes to that stuff so i wonder if i can hold out. HAHA!!! i dont want to be disapointed even though i know i would get over it quickly and how cool of a surprise would that be. EITHER way... to wait. so exciting.

[Sora]

My doc said that whatever you do, potassium should be the highest one BUT not to miss magnesium and calcium, just make sure they are lower than potassium. I guess the "forbidden" foods in FGD diet (and some other diets) are taken away NOT because eating one would magically sway pink but because it brings the most cal/mag and also, since it was swayers favorite food before the diet, you risk them being tempted to eat them in great amounts rather than force themselves to eat, say, two steaks or 9 servings of fruits/veggies.

[Bromedha]

Hi.. I'll be TTC this December and will be swaying for a boy. Will start serious diet by September. For now am taking my women's one a day pill and fish oil, single dose... The thing I am worried is one a day has 380 mg elemental calcium.. Even during my earlier pregnanc ies doctor prescribed only 120 mg... Isn't it too much calcium... I am not planning to avoid calcium but don't want to take huge doses.. Please correct me if I am doing this wrongly

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[Throwaway_panther]

Re: minerals.

Magnesium in excess can cause diarrhea, fyi, which could deplete nutrients and sway pink. This more than anything has made me wonder if that's why people though it swayed girl. But it takes a decent amount to get to that -- people take magnesium therapeutically all the time for muscle issues and migraines without that issue.

Calcium: Sora, I just caution you to pin all your girls on calcium, or that's why people you know have boys. Calcium isn't just found in dairy -- it's found in a lot of other things, including seafood, vegetables (like broccoli!) and more. There's even been an actual study that linked more boys with diets of higher calcium. So do what you need to do, I just think thinking your eating of dairy is what gave you girls isn't accurate! It's never one thing and always down to odds (and to throw in an anecdote, I've read every single how we got our boys" post and there's TONS of dairy eaters in there. Tons. It's what made me not care about calcium for my sway, since I also had virtually none with DD! I was full on lactose intolerant before her!)

[Pearl327]

Hi Ladies,

My DH and I decided last night that we are going to try for a fourth and fingers crossed another DS in October/November time.

I am looking forward to getting to know all of you and learning what has changed since I last swayed blue. My little man is turning 5 very soon.

My biggest challenge now is to start exercising and lifting weights again. I am planning to start slowly back into kettlebells next week. And increase my egg intake.

[Bromedha]

Pearl, please share the knowledge of your first successful day [emoji5]

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[Bromedha]

*sway

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[Sora]

Yes Pearl, since you already had sucessful sways, please do help enlighten us as to what we could do to be as lucky as you :bighug: !

Panther : Thank you for your input. Yes calcium does exist in other foods, my doc insisted that even without dairy, I would and should get it from these other sources and that the goal was to get more potassium inside me, not deprive me of cal/mag whatsoever. I've read the posts too and it's true there are dairy eaters amongst boys' mom. Anyway I heavily suspect now that I swayed pink because of abstinency+one attempt+terribly low levels in vit/minerals for DD2 since it had only been 8 months since DD1's birth... But irrationnal though it may be, I can't shake the fear of swaying pink with dairy. Even though they do eat cheese and a bit of yoghurt, I can't help but notice that my friends get dairy in very small amount. + it often is diet dairy (skimmed and all) yet they have so many boys !!:nails:

I bet though it's because each of them are way into 9 servings of fruits a day ! :bowdown: I swear I've never seen so much fruits in one house haha !

Edit : What you said about magnesium and diarrhea reminds me of something my diet doctor mentionned -> he had a patient who tried to sway blue on her own but got an opposite. When going through her diet before TTC, he noticed that although her sway was near perfect, she was regularly drinking detox tea/draining herbal tea (she just wanted to keep an eye on her weight and health). He concluded she had washed all her nutrients down hence the failed sway. So I guess whatever you do, try to avoid things that would cause a loss of nutrients somewhere somehow... :worry:

[Throwaway_panther]

Sora: I totally understand the irrational!! I really couldn't shake Shettles for awhile there since I had thought I made 2-3 attempts at O with DD -- turns out, knowing my cycle better and learning more since then (she was our first try TTC and I did nothing then), it was totally 2 attempts with a 2 day cut off. Not that much of it matters, since I was swaying SO pink unintentionally! I was relapsing into my eating disorder so barely eating anyway :/ Gah! Why did I waste so much time worrying about Shettles lol? My own sister was a shettles opposite!

Pearl: AHH! You're swaying again?! I feel like you're a GD celeb in my mind haha! So excited to see you active again!

[aira22]

It's so nice to see more blue swayers here! :wave: Hi Bromedha and Pearl! Looking forward to read your sway tactics :)

minerals: I try to stay relaxed about it. I have the idea of dairy = girls somewhere in the back of my head since I read it many times, but I also read about the many boy mums eating lots of it. I try not to think too much and stick to what atomic suggests (cereals with milk, yogurt for bedtime snack, cheese as a snack,...).

Anyway I find it interesting that it's about the potassium ratio. Sora, how do you keep track of that? Do you use apps/calculators or just try to ingest as much potassium as possible and hope it will be more than cal and mag?

What are your "potassium foods"? I think I should prefer these now since its my 2 final weeks to O-day. :think:

Pearl: Did you exercise a lot with you blue sway. That is really the hardest part for me... I try to integrate it into my everyday life (lifting stuff and kids, doing some squats here and there), but I feel its not enough.
And lots of eggs? Thats what I'm doing already. An egg a day..... :wink:


tkelly: I'm sharing your excitement! Are you doing any "last minute" stuff? extra weight lifting, coconut water, guaifenesin, grapefruit juice, ..? lol That what I'm planning for AF-O. :giggle:
Had some spotting last night which means AF will start any day.

[Sora]

Aira : For the potassium, I try mainly to eat as much potassium as possible. I don't do supps cause even my doc said it is better to get it through diet than through other means and I saw a post from atomic that said something along those lines too if I remember correctly.

"Potassium foods" do cross over with what I've read here of boys' moms diets and what I've been able to observe IRL, that is mainly meat and fruits, potatoes, other veggies like pumpkin for example. Coffee is the richest drink potassium-wise but is also known to sway pinkso I stay away from it (no prob there, I HATE the stuff). On the other hand, dried fruits are quite the potassium source. Nuts too but they also do pack a lot of magnesium and as Panther pointed out, too much of that could give you diarrhea. I've heard nuts once a week is good enough but I often forget them ^^" ! You can also add beans, chick peas, lentils to the top of the list.

The only thing I could tell you is to just follow through with the meat twice a day, with beans/chick peas/lentils, and don't hesitate to snack on fruits (fresh, dried, juices)... My friends with boys all had huge cravings of fruits just before TTC. I remember two of them coming home with whole bags of pineapples, bananas, mangos not two weeks before conceiving. I was so weirded out but they were like "I don't know why, I usually love fruits but since starting TTC, I CRAVE them, all fo them !" :giggle:

About exercises, I do squats but haven't started weights. It is a bit hard for me lately cause the kids and bouts of insomnia that leave me very tired during the day.

[Throwaway_panther]

Some ideas for high potassium foods:
Dried fruits (especially dates!)
Sweet potatoes
Potatoes
Full fat milk
Avocado!!!
Nuts
Fattier fish (salmon, sardines)
Mushrooms

[Bromedha]

Thanks panther... Today only I looked for this information

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[aira22]

Thank you Sora and TP!
That means I'm doing good yay! :cool: I have nuts, dried fruit (dates, apricot, figs, raisins) and 2x meat daily. I really feel my diet is ok, just hope to get little more exercise in.

[Sora]

I'm sure you're okay too !

Not happy with myself, these past few days have been a bit chaotic and I had trouble having a good breakfast and enough servings of fruits. I tried to graze through the day but couldn't get my hands on much proteins except for the meat :tissue: I only have one month left, this is no good time to throw the towel :nails:

Edit : And OPK+ is here as planned. Only one month left for sure now :nails:

Question : did any of you notice changes in your body/cycle with the diet and sway ? I've been feeling strangely happy for a little more than 3 weeks now even though I've had a horrible year. Last AF was surprisingly not painful (didn't know it was possible). And my skin is different too, less pale... I hope it means things are going to be okay :pray:

[tkelly621]

Eeeek.... got my positive opk today :) nervous

[tkelly621]

I've been drinking a lot of lemon water, eating a ton, drinking green tea 🍵 which a lot of people find gross but I like it 😋

[aira22]

Eeeek.... got my positive opk today :) nervous

hope you have some good BD now lol :bluesperm: :bluesperm: :fingers:

I'm having CD1 today :suprise: so...it's on!!



Not happy with myself, these past few days have been a bit chaotic and I had trouble having a good breakfast and enough servings of fruits. I tried to graze through the day but couldn't get my hands on much proteins except for the meat :tissue: I only have one month left, this is no good time to throw the towel :nails:

Edit : And OPK+ is here as planned. Only one month left for sure now :nails:


You'll be fine. Don't throw the towel! Everyone here has days where we're not eating 100% HE stuff. I had this concern too but I think "natural" boy moms were not doing things and eating the same every day. Only us swaying moms try to do such thing lol. Don't worry! Stay as happy as you are now since you started the diet :flowerz:



This is our time! We can do this! :highfive: :bluecheer: team blue woohoo!! :bluecheer:

[baby42019]

On CD 2 here:/ really trying hard to stick to the diet. Eating meat is so difficult for me. I’m not vegetarian by any means, but I would never eat meat everyday.
I think my mom was right, that I have a dairy allergy. I never was fully sure if she was correct but I didn’t care because I was an almond milk, soy creamer junkie until HE diet when I switched to whole milk, yogurt and cheese. I have a terrible rash now on my hands, mostly my middle and ring fingers (so weird, right?). But we are going to ttc this cycle so I’m trying to stick with it. With both my girls I was drinking almond/rice/soy milk and no dairy at all except for a very occasional slice of cheese.


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[Sora]

On CD 2 here:/ really trying hard to stick to the diet. Eating meat is so difficult for me. I’m not vegetarian by any means, but I would never eat meat everyday.
I think my mom was right, that I have a dairy allergy. I never was fully sure if she was correct but I didn’t care because I was an almond milk, soy creamer junkie until HE diet when I switched to whole milk, yogurt and cheese. I have a terrible rash now on my hands, mostly my middle and ring fingers (so weird, right?). But we are going to ttc this cycle so I’m trying to stick with it. With both my girls I was drinking almond/rice/soy milk and no dairy at all except for a very occasional slice of cheese.


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Baby, is the weather warm at your place right now ? I've had a similar rash ten years ago, thought it was because of soy, turns out it was urticaria caused by summer heat and worsened by how much frictions our hands go through without us even noticing. If so you just have to relax as much as you can (stress worsens it) and wet your hands with fresh water as much as you can. Could also be a perfume or some hand-cream you use maybe ? It never goes well with sun and perspiration. :worry: Just saying cause I think that if it was dairy related, the rash would have spread to other parts of your body by now and you would feel sick while digesting...

But if it IS allergic in nature, milk is the worst offender so staying on cheese only should do the trick and you would still have your sway. Most boys' moms I know hate milk anyway and just do the occasional cheese/yoghurt. Also, I've seen more boys than girls with vegans so everything is possible.

Aira : Thanks for your words ! Yes we can do it but I'm so worried ! Plus husband just came down with a fever today, WHY ?????:sad:
It may seem harsh but sometimes, I'm afraid I will do everything right and still fail in the end because of things outside my control, like DH or the weather ! The universe doesn't seem to want to give me that baby boy ! :tissue:

[baby42019]

Baby, is the weather warm at your place right now ? I've had a similar rash ten years ago, thought it was because of soy, turns out it was urticaria caused by summer heat and worsened by how much frictions our hands go through without us even noticing. If so you just have to relax as much as you can (stress worsens it) and wet your hands with fresh water as much as you can. Could also be a perfume or some hand-cream you use maybe ? It never goes well with sun and perspiration. :worry: Just saying cause I think that if it was dairy related, the rash would have spread to other parts of your body by now and you would feel sick while digesting...

But if it IS allergic in nature, milk is the worst offender so staying on cheese only should do the trick and you would still have your sway. Most boys' moms I know hate milk anyway and just do the occasional cheese/yoghurt. Also, I've seen more boys than girls with vegans so everything is possible.

Aira : Thanks for your words ! Yes we can do it but I'm so worried ! Plus husband just came down with a fever today, WHY ?????:sad:
It may seem harsh but sometimes, I'm afraid I will do everything right and still fail in the end because of things outside my control, like DH or the weather ! The universe doesn't seem to want to give me that baby boy ! :tissue:


Hmm..it makes sense if it were milk it would’ve spread, but it’s not that warm where I live (Pacific NW). It’s in the mid 70s (21-26C). And nothing else has changed lotion, soap, etc. I googled urticaria on hands, which led me to stress urticaria on hands and yes! Oh my gosh, that’s exactly what it looks like. I don’t feel particularly stressed out, but I guess I am:/

Maybe the impending ttc is stressing me out. I found out last week my sisters husband had a vasectomy (they have two girls also) so if I don’t have a baby boy, my dad won’t have had a grandson (no son either). Of course I want a baby boy for myself also but my dad would just be over the moon. As I’m 38 now, this is my last baby, so I’m really hoping for blue this time.


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[Sora]

Hmm..it makes sense if it were milk it would’ve spread, but it’s not that warm where I live (Pacific NW). It’s in the mid 70s (21-26C). And nothing else has changed lotion, soap, etc. I googled urticaria on hands, which led me to stress urticaria on hands and yes! Oh my gosh, that’s exactly what it looks like. I don’t feel particularly stressed out, but I guess I am:/

Maybe the impending ttc is stressing me out. I found out last week my sisters husband had a vasectomy (they have two girls also) so if I don’t have a baby boy, my dad won’t have had a grandson (no son either). Of course I want a baby boy for myself also but my dad would just be over the moon. As I’m 38 now, this is my last baby, so I’m really hoping for blue this time.


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That must be urticaria then Baby, for sure ! Mine also started around these temps (23-27C). It's warm enough really and stress do make your body warmer by accelerating your pulse (despite the cold feeling you get sometimes when in fear). Well no worry about it then, that thing comes and goes when it pleases but it's not dangerous. Don't take meds for it, it doesn't help much... Best thing to do is to just take it in strides really, not think too much about it. It worsens only if you start worrying about having it appear at all times, it's a vicious cycle. If it surges, you just go and wash your hands with cold water as much times as you need to for it to recede. Do think of it as some kind of dust you got on your fingers that will eventually disappear on its own (that's what it does). The less you will notice it, the more it will forget about you and go away. That's what I did and after a few months, it stopped completely. It only came back recently cause of a huge stress too. Washed it, no new signs since.

Hang on there :hug2:

I totally get you about the whole last chance and blue and getting a son not only for you but for family members too. I'm the oldest child so I'm the only one as of now to have children. But I'm not sure we can afford more than three children and although I'm only 32, time flows fast and I fear I will be too old later, especially since the oldest you get, the less chances for swaying blue or so I heard. I now it's no magical switch either...
DH is from an all-boy family so they were elated by our two girls really, but still, I fear one day, DH will look at his friends who all have little guys and start wondering why I couldn't give him one. On my side, there are only purple families :giggle: (boy/girl) and it was so easy for them it sometimes makes me feel like a failure, like I can't even have both just by TTC when I feel like and be done with it... Don't know if you get my ramblings :giggle:

[aira22]

long time no see ;) I'm on CD5 now! time went by so fast! I'm having a hard time with the diet lately because I have to force myself to eat when I'm not hungry and forget the snacks and the exercise :oops: but I'm motivated to attempt this month. only one more week to go! :)

I had a hormone and physical checkup at my ob-gyn and the results were quite a bummer. My testosterone level is as low as can be, he found a myoma (how do you even write this?) and of course my AMH of zero-point-nothing with FSH of 12. So I was a little demoralized about being pregnant soon...not to talk about even swaying blue. But all gone now, I can never know if I'm not trying, right?

Sooo.... what about you ladies?

baby, is your rash gone? will you attempt this cycle? did you start the OPKs already?

sora, hows your husband? how is your diet going?

tkelly, any news? hows your 2ww?

[Sora]

Hey aira you're back !

Still on June cycle, waiting for AF in a week or so. DH's fever went down in 24hours but now he is complaining of a cough and taking meds. I'm more than worried. I get this impression I will do a good sway and still fail because of someone else or some outside influence. Even had a nightmare last night about forgetting my three attempts at OPK+ and ending up pregnant with another girl.

Like you I have trouble with the diet. It has been very warm at home lately and I'm not hungry at all. The only thing I want to snack on is ice-cream. I even have trouble with fruits and juices cause their sugar makes me even more thirsty. I wish to drink water and only water :worry: And let's not talk about exercises. It's so warm I can't lift anything, not even my legs :giggle: I'm all couch potato and I hate that. I'm not thin by any means and now I feel all fat and ugly :tissue:

[aira22]

I wish to drink water and only water :worry: And let's not talk about exercises. It's so warm I can't lift anything, not even my legs :giggle: I'm all couch potato and I hate that. I'm not thin by any means and now I feel all fat and ugly :tissue:

Ahh I can SO understand you! I'm having exactly the same trouble here, but I try to go through with it now. I hope I get pregnant soon, so I don't have to do this much longer lol.

[Sora]

We're so girls moms :giggle: can't stand all that food :giggle:

[tkelly621]

Hi ladies!! Currently 5dpo. The wait is driving me a bit crazy ��

[aira22]

tkelly thats so exciting! I'm like 10 days behind you... how do you feel? how do you feel about your sway? did you fit in the 3 attempt after +OPK? Are you going to test early or waiting for AF not to show up?

[shinay]

Hi ladies!! Currently 5dpo. The wait is driving me a bit crazy ��Congrats on getting to tww. How many attempts did you do? Also do you chart your temps as well? I think I am 2dpo. FF says I o'ed on the day I got +opk (july 1st) but with temps and other symptoms lile cervix and CM, I think my ovulation was july 2nd to 3rd. The wait is killing me as well. Since I have lots of cheapies HPT, I might start testing early (POAS addict) [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[shinay]

And I just want to say that it is awesome to see much more people ttc boy and we all start around the same time. Praying we all get our bfp soon [emoji173]

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[tkelly621]

I used opk... positive opk on Friday -- only managed two attempts Saturday and Sunday ( for some reason the second bd was painful and I spotted until the next afternoon) my husband is convinced it worked. Haha . I am extremely gassy. Like, not passing gas but my belly feels all bubbly and it's kinda painful . Definitely odd for me. My boobs almost always are sore so I can't go off that .

[tkelly621]

I actually feel pretty good about our attempts and timing. I don't temp. I'm gonna start testing at 7dpo... haha I'm a POAS addict :p I have a ton of hpts so why not

[shinay]

I used opk... positive opk on Friday -- only managed two attempts Saturday and Sunday ( for some reason the second bd was painful and I spotted until the next afternoon) my husband is convinced it worked. Haha . I am extremely gassy. Like, not passing gas but my belly feels all bubbly and it's kinda painful . Definitely odd for me. My boobs almost always are sore so I can't go off that .


I used opk... positive opk on Friday -- only managed two attempts Saturday and Sunday ( for some reason the second bd was painful and I spotted until the next afternoon) my husband is convinced it worked. Haha . I am extremely gassy. Like, not passing gas but my belly feels all bubbly and it's kinda painful . Definitely odd for me. My boobs almost always are sore so I can't go off that .

Hahaha i hope he is right though! Yipeee 2 more days till testing. Fx hard for you that this is IT! You gotta let us know as soon as you test!
I dtd the night of positive opk and next 2 days, but only 2 attempts would have made it in time if anything. Praying 2 attempts are good enough for both of us to get our little boys! I know it is still too early, but my boobs are super sore/tender, and cramps all day everyday. I have never had sth like this after ovulation. Usually closer to AF only. I hope it is a good sign though. What can we do to make the fly by faster? Dh commented that why I would need to test early, just wait till I miss my period. Yeah right, like that is gonna happen. I am too impatient for that. [emoji23]

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[Thunderstruck7]

Thought I'd pop in to say hi... My partner and I are ttc a little blue bundle too, although it's winter here not summer lol. We're going for eod pattern as I struggle to get positive opks.. it was more stress than what it was worth. Currently about 2 weeks away from o! I'm excited about this month as we've been on our ttc journey for approx 18 months.

Good luck ladies I can't wait to see BFP with lol sticky blue beans 🤞[emoji170]

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[aira22]

Hi thunder! Nice to see the blue team growing :) Are you still doing the HE diet and exercise and everything? How many children do you have already?

I'm on CD7 so 5 days til O :suprise: getting excited now as it is our first round. I started cough sirup today and it tastes soooo gross. I wish I'd bought tablets lol.

tkelly and shinay: keep us updated with your P-sticks!

[shinay]

Thought I'd pop in to say hi... My partner and I are ttc a little blue bundle too, although it's winter here not summer lol. We're going for eod pattern as I struggle to get positive opks.. it was more stress than what it was worth. Currently about 2 weeks away from o! I'm excited about this month as we've been on our ttc journey for approx 18 months.

Good luck ladies I can't wait to see BFP with lol sticky blue beans 🤞[emoji170]

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Hi Thunder. Cool to have more blue swayers. I would do EOD as well since it will increase your chance of conception. Maybe you can also use some preseed as well to help sperm stay alive longer once they made it inside. Did you test opk 2 or 3 times a day when it gets closer to O? You might have a short surge, but I agree with trying EOD. Also, did you ask atomic what else you can do to help with conception? I thought blue diets and bd plan would boost fertility. I am so sorry this journey has been long for you. Fx this is your month.

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[shinay]

Hi thunder! Nice to see the blue team growing :) Are you still doing the HE diet and exercise and everything? How many children do you have already?

I'm on CD7 so 5 days til O :suprise: getting excited now as it is our first round. I started cough sirup today and it tastes soooo gross. I wish I'd bought tablets lol.

tkelly and shinay: keep us updated with your P-sticks!

Hahaha that's the exact reason why I got the tablets. I cant stand the taste of cough syrup. Yucky! Are you planning to do EOD or have dh release every couple days outside plus 3 attempts at +opk?

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[Thunderstruck7]

I have 3 kiddies of my own 2 girls then a boy following shettles 100% I now have a new partner (been together over 3 years) who has 3 girls of his own and together we'd love a little boy.

Reason this journey has been so long is because I had an ectopic pregnancy which took my cycle 7 months to recover, then mix in holidays and travel we've really only had 4 unsuccessful cycles, half is due to me stressing and also my DHs health issues

I am naturally more inclined to lean towards HE diet but have also added lemon water, coconut water and V8. I take a pregnancy multivitamin, vit D, probiotics, and an extra folic acid. DH is on supplements of zinc, probiotics and fish oil. While cutting down on caffeine for the both of us.

For ds1 I never did any exercise and I haven't been doing anything special now.

I haven't bothered asking Atomic anything, I have read and re-read everything I can find, and for me I think it's finding what works best for keeping stress down and enjoying this journey.

Oh I will have a swig of the cough syrup when I feel I can stomach it lol

Dh will be happy either way, I'm the one more set on having a boy. But will be just as happy if we were blessed with a girl.

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[Thunderstruck7]

Oh and opks are difficult to test as i work out in the community, no office etc. And don't like restricting fluids for testing either. I was doing them 3 times a day when I could.

I've just decided to stay temping, I think the hindsight will take the pressure off.

At this stage we're hoping to be eod then add an extra shot or two if I am certain o is happening.



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[tkelly621]

Hha they have no idea how us woman are poas addicted.

[tkelly621]

Extremely bloated today and tired ... testing in the am ���� fully expecting a negative... so early but I have seen it happen

[shinay]

I have 3 kiddies of my own 2 girls then a boy following shettles 100% I now have a new partner (been together over 3 years) who has 3 girls of his own and together we'd love a little boy.

Reason this journey has been so long is because I had an ectopic pregnancy which took my cycle 7 months to recover, then mix in holidays and travel we've really only had 4 unsuccessful cycles, half is due to me stressing and also my DHs health issues

I am naturally more inclined to lean towards HE diet but have also added lemon water, coconut water and V8. I take a pregnancy multivitamin, vit D, probiotics, and an extra folic acid. DH is on supplements of zinc, probiotics and fish oil. While cutting down on caffeine for the both of us.

For ds1 I never did any exercise and I haven't been doing anything special now.

I haven't bothered asking Atomic anything, I have read and re-read everything I can find, and for me I think it's finding what works best for keeping stress down and enjoying this journey.

Oh I will have a swig of the cough syrup when I feel I can stomach it lol

Dh will be happy either way, I'm the one more set on having a boy. But will be just as happy if we were blessed with a girl.

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I am so sorry for what you have gone through. It is heartbreaking for me to hear anyone have miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies.

It sounds like you have a good plan in play. EOD will definitely bring down the stress level from trying to catch that first +opk. Hopefully EOD will bring you your beloved boy very soon.

I exercised 3 times a week for a good 3-4 months, but have been slacking off this past month due to busy schedules. I hope it didnt mess things up.

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[shinay]

Extremely bloated today and tired ... testing in the am ���� fully expecting a negative... so early but I have seen it happenEekkkk! The time is near. I am (im)patinetly waiting for your test tmr [emoji23]

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[shinay]

Extremely bloated today and tired ... testing in the am ���� fully expecting a negative... so early but I have seen it happenThat is right. I didnt bother saying anything to dh as I dont wanna tell him how many tests I have laying around waiting to be used hahaha

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[Thunderstruck7]

I am so sorry for what you have gone through. It is heartbreaking for me to hear anyone have miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies.

It sounds like you have a good plan in play. EOD will definitely bring down the stress level from trying to catch that first +opk. Hopefully EOD will bring you your beloved boy very soon.

I exercised 3 times a week for a good 3-4 months, but have been slacking off this past month due to busy schedules. I hope it didnt mess things up.

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I've never even considered eod as a pattern that would sway, I was very much stuck on the shettles school of thought but after reading nearly everything I can find that atomic has written in regards to boy sway I'm convinced that this will suit our life style much better (when ds1 was concieved I wasn't working and I had all the time in the world to chart every aspect of my cycle)

Either way as long as it all goes smoothly that's all that really matters

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[shinay]

Thanks Shinay

I've never even considered eod as a pattern that would sway, I was very much stuck on the shettles school of thought but after reading nearly everything I can find that atomic has written in regards to boy sway I'm convinced that this will suit our life style much better (when ds1 was concieved I wasn't working and I had all the time in the world to chart every aspect of my cycle)

Either way as long as it all goes smoothly that's all that really matters

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I think diet plays the big role in it. I didnt know EOD would sway boy either. It does make sense when I read Atomic's essays on how it would increase sperm counts and there would be lots of sperm around for the egg at any given time. I would say do what you did when you had ds1. And please give us any tips and tricks if you recall anything from your ds1.

This will be our first baby. I am swaying but not really hardcore. I always want to have at least 3 kids and at least one boy. So swaying early will at least give me more chances, but healthy baby is all that matters at the end of the day. We would feel so blessed to have a baby after so many things delayed ttc for the past 2 years [emoji173]

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[Sora]

Glad to see new blue swayers ! It looks like I will be the last one BD with O day around July 30th :suprise:

Lots of blue dust to you all !

Aira you still have trouble with exercising ? It's so hot out there I just fall asleep whenever the girls are not around !

[tkelly621]

BFN this morning but that was to be expected :p

[aira22]

Hahaha that's the exact reason why I got the tablets. I cant stand the taste of cough syrup. Yucky! Are you planning to do EOD or have dh release every couple days outside plus 3 attempts at +opk?

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I'm planning on doing the 3 attempts at +opk (and also day before). I'd prefer the EOD, but DH is out on business trips a lot. I'm happy he'll be home for the few days around O this month so the plan is to do as much BD as we can :ttc:

[Thunderstruck7]

I think diet plays the big role in it. I didnt know EOD would sway boy either. It does make sense when I read Atomic's essays on how it would increase sperm counts and there would be lots of sperm around for the egg at any given time. I would say do what you did when you had ds1. And please give us any tips and tricks if you recall anything from your ds1.

This will be our first baby. I am swaying but not really hardcore. I always want to have at least 3 kids and at least one boy. So swaying early will at least give me more chances, but healthy baby is all that matters at the end of the day. We would feel so blessed to have a baby after so many things delayed ttc for the past 2 years [emoji173]

Sent from my SM-G920I using TapatalkI believe that diet is probably one of the biggest factors to a sway and also sperm quality. Like I said I followed shettles and that's been debunked, so not recommending it because I'm not even following that now.

I ate a lot of things high in potassium, bananas, potatoes, v8 juice, coconut water, lemon water, salt and vinegar chips and I completely cut out dairy. I know now that's not recommended at all. I also had green tea and soda water.

Sperm quality was an issue, the father was a daily, if not twice daily releaser, so putting a stop to that, having him take zinc and also ice his jewels and take cooler showers (he exercised a lot and had long hot showers, so keeping things cool was the key). Afterwards he only released every 4 days either protected, outside or on his own, we then had 1 attempted at O.

Having the 'big o' when dtd also was what we did different. For both DD1 and 2 I never had the big o but did just before/ with the father for ds. Style was 'doggy'

We literally changed my cycle to fall inline with the full moon, partly his religion/ culture believed in this. It was a very long and drawn out process. So I ovulated 2 days after the full moon which is supposed to have positive ions which sway boy. He also prayed a lot (for a son) and would use incense, the smoke from this is also apparently full of positive ions but I didn't know until now.

Things I'm doing this time.
I'm no longer sticking to only one attempt at o.
Including full fat dairy into my diet.
No way I'm changing my cycle to ovulate around the full moon.
Not asking DH to ice frequently, he does occasionally as he naturally runs hot.
Cut back and virtually stopped all alcohol and caffeine.
For attempts at O we'll use deep/ doggy
And achieving the big o is a must [emoji6]
And as mentioned we're doing eod, so between every 2 to 4 days leading up to possibly every day through ovulation if it happens that way.

Hope that helps, and good luck!

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[aira22]

Aira you still have trouble with exercising ? It's so hot out there I just fall asleep whenever the girls are not around !

I even fall asleep when the ARE around! lol But I force myself into it now. It's end spurt.. 4-O today!!! My plan was to do something everyday for the last week leading up to O. And I failed already for the first 2 days but I'm not going to cheat the next days. haha

[Sora]

I even fall asleep when the ARE around! lol But I force myself into it now. It's end spurt.. 4-O today!!! My plan was to do something everyday for the last week leading up to O. And I failed already for the first 2 days but I'm not going to cheat the next days. haha

Don't mention it ! I sworn I would add weights in while still keeping with 45min cardio/day at the start of the month (to prevent too much weight gain with the diet) but it's soooo hot ! And now a week has already gone by :tissue:

We can do this :cheerteam:

[tkelly621]

8dpo(yesterday) ----- sorry if TMI but i the first pee of the morning, i wiped and saw pink and brown with some mucus.... my first thought was IB? I read its the most common at 8dpo, BUT my period is due in 5 days so maybe just early spotting :-/ had nothing the rest of the day and nothing still today so far.

9dpo- took a First response and a wondfo - both BFN which was expected especially if i implanted just yesterday.... ive read it can take days after to be positive.. but AF is due Thursday... sooooo haha we'll see i guess. Im super crampy and oddly constipated( i am a super super regular person ) I felt really good about our attempts but it is only the first month TTC so i cant really expect it to be positive this fast, can i ? Ugh, this is stressful

[shinay]

8dpo(yesterday) ----- sorry if TMI but i the first pee of the morning, i wiped and saw pink and brown with some mucus.... my first thought was IB? I read its the most common at 8dpo, BUT my period is due in 5 days so maybe just early spotting :-/ had nothing the rest of the day and nothing still today so far.

9dpo- took a First response and a wondfo - both BFN which was expected especially if i implanted just yesterday.... ive read it can take days after to be positive.. but AF is due Thursday... sooooo haha we'll see i guess. Im super crampy and oddly constipated( i am a super super regular person ) I felt really good about our attempts but it is only the first month TTC so i cant really expect it to be positive this fast, can i ? Ugh, this is stressful

That sounds like IB tkelly. If you actually had implanted yesterday, it would probably take a few more days for hcg to go up like you said. This is also my first month ttc as well, so I am the same. I feel very positive but don't want to keep my hope up too high as well. But boy diet supposes to help with fertility so it might be possible that we will get lucky. Fx fx fx hard for all of us! [emoji4]

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[tkelly621]

Hoping ���������� Gl to you

[aira22]

:fx: for you tkelly and shinay!

I'll be in you boat soon! ;)

I got +opk today eek! It's only CD10 :suprise: so it's a bit messing up my plans and BD pattern. Hope to get in at least 2 attemps bc last month O was the same day as +opk, and today will be only 1 attempt.. so nervous!! need some blue dust and luck now! :bluesperm:

[tkelly621]

My pos was cd11 so early also

[shinay]

:fx: for you tkelly and shinay!

I'll be in you boat soon! ;)

I got +opk today eek! It's only CD10 :suprise: so it's a bit messing up my plans and BD pattern. Hope to get in at least 2 attemps bc last month O was the same day as +opk, and today will be only 1 attempt.. so nervous!! need some blue dust and luck now! :bluesperm:Yay for +opk. Goodluck aira! You got this. Add in as many attempts as you could [emoji4]

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[Sora]

:fx: for you two also !

Good luck Aira ! Hope it goes well !

[tkelly621]

11 dpo ---- BFN! :/ ----- my body has played some crazy tricks on me !!! Now i know why and how so many woman FEEL like theyre pregnant when theyre not. So many weird symptoms that are completely out of the norm for me ive had, and still negative. AF due in 2 days. feel crampy, have for days.. like AF is coming.. keep checking for blood. lol

[shinay]

11 dpo ---- BFN! :/ ----- my body has played some crazy tricks on me !!! Now i know why and how so many woman FEEL like theyre pregnant when theyre not. So many weird symptoms that are completely out of the norm for me ive had, and still negative. AF due in 2 days. feel crampy, have for days.. like AF is coming.. keep checking for blood. lolYou are not out till AF is here. I saw on tww thread that there is someone getting bfp at 12dpo, so I would say dont give up yet.

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[Sora]

Don't worry too much tkelly, whatever they say, pregnancy tests still work better when you're past the supposed day of AF. For DD1 I only had a BFP after AF was supposed to start. Before that I only got BFN. :fx:

And for DD2, since she was a surprise baby, I only tested when I was already 10 days late in my period :giggle: You couldn't get a bigger + (and a huge heart attack seeing that 3+weeks pregnant in the test window)

Don't think too much about it, you'll just give yourself symptoms. :giggle: That's what happened to me with DD1 (we were trying for close to a year), I even set my cycle off by thinking too much about tests and kits. The body sometimes responds a little too well to our desires and fears.:giggle:

[aira22]

I'm officially in TTW now :)
Had my temp rise today CD13 that means egg popped CD11 or 12. Hopefully it met a beautiful :bluesperm:

I managed to have 4 attempts in the 36h after +opk. I'm only worried that after that, yesterday, I had a real low blood sugar- and dehydration-day (due to work) so I hope that didn't mess up fertilization.

sorry that you got bfn tkelly, but as shinay and sora said, your not out until AF appears.

My plan is to wait and not test early... I hope I can do it lol I know I will get ALL pregnancy symptoms in one week. That's really cruel!

[aira22]

TWW of course:giggle:

[tkelly621]

BFN this morning...12 dpo ---- spotting now but pink & brownish.... no real AF yet, probably tomorrow . Onto next month :-p its really okay... i wouldnt' mind a May-Sept baby. Kinda what we were hoping for anyway, not sure why i feel so disappointed... i guess because i ffeel like TTC is exhausting! hahah trying to keep up with the diet, supps, opks..etc.... GL AIRA!!!!

[Sora]

It's normal to feel disappointed anyway tkelly, even if you still have time and all :hug2:

Let's say it gives you time to refine your sway even more and accumulate blue dust under your pillow :bluecheer:

Good luck Aira :bluecheer: !

[tkelly621]

this constant annoying cramping though... got me like WTH!!!!!!!! this is so not normal for me, but BFN at 12dpo - i can consider myself pretty much out. I have taken 4 differnet tests too so its not that. LOL

[shinay]

Aira: wow 4 attempts...that will up your odds of boy sperms. Woohoo!!! Welcome to tww! Which day are you planning to test?

Tkelly: i am sorry you havent got bfp yet. I know it sucks to have symptoms but still get bfn [emoji20] i hope for miracle tomorrow with bfp for you. If not, I hope AF comes soon so you can start fresh and get pregnant soon. Boy diets will boost fertility and conception, so I know it would take all of us ttc boy a few months to conceive max.

I got a really faint line last night on IC. So today I tried a frer and got a faint line. Praying it will get darker next couple days. I wish you guys can join me in DDG very soon.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/817b61d2e1ec6da8230099776bfcad07.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/0af21a3c31c202b9c30f702e721ecfa0.jpg

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[Sora]

AF started today ! Soooo anxious now !!!!! :nails:

[aira22]

Wow shinay huge congrats!! First round TTC and BFP - not bad. On what dpo did you test?

[aira22]

Good luck for this cycle Sora!

[Sora]

Thank you Aira, hope you get a that BFP !

[shinay]

Wow shinay huge congrats!! First round TTC and BFP - not bad. On what dpo did you test?I started testing at 8dpo. The morning test was stark white. The night test was super duper faint line that I was not sure if it was even there or i saw it because i wanted to see a line so much lol. But 9dpo shows a much better line. I wish you and Sora best of luck!!!

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[baby42019]

I’m out this cycle:/ We were so busy this week, and then for some reason I didn’t get a positive OPK yet, probably today, but dh is on a 48hr shift and won’t be home til Sunday. I’m really bummed out, I was looking forward to being done with the HE diet.


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[Sora]

Idk about being done baby, I've seen a post where atomic recommend not stopping the diet as soon as you get the BFP but instead carrying on at least through the first semester before gradually going back to your old habits. Looks like sudden change in diet during pregnancy has been responsible for miscarriages and it seems to go with some sad stories I've read here and on French forums about people succeeding in their sway only to loose their baby a few months later. It seems to be particularly true of baby boys. :worry:

[aira22]

Oh no baby, that sucks! But maybe one month more makes your body even more blue friendly - that's what I'm going to tell myself when I get a BFN lol

[aira22]

Hey ladies... whats happening? Anything we need to know? LOL

I'm 5 or 6dpo now, waiting for the time to go by... no symptoms so far. Trying to carry on with the diet but not very good at it. As soon as ovulation was confirmed, I let go of running a tight ship haha

[tkelly621]

OH YAY!!!! COngrats on the postiive pregnancy test!!! How exciting!!!!!!


Crossing my fingers for a BFP for you, AIRA!!!! Im on cd3 --- blahhh!!! All this waiting drives me insane! haha

[aira22]

8dpo, no symptoms whatsoever...I'm surprised, thought I would (imagination-)feel something by now lol

[Sora]

Maybe it's a good thing, means you're totally serene about it ?

[tkelly621]

when do you plan on testing AIRA?

cd7 for me. Should O somewhere around the cd12.... soooo , i will start testing OPK tomorrow :)

[Sora]

Eh that's weird, lately none of my posts seems to appear :nono:

:fx:for you aira !

[aira22]

Sooo.. 10dpo, symptoms started haha twinges here bloating there, some moments I'm like wait, am I feeling light headed right now? Oh, that was a hot flash! Ah, that's nausea kicking in! And the next moment all gone and I'm like, don't be silly! Anyway it's too early to feel stuff already :giggle:
I really don't know when I'm going to test. One one hand I like to think it had worked, on the other hand I want to know the truth and not feel like a fool if it hadn't... My plan was to hold out till AF was due but it's still 4 more days aaahh!

And my diet? I'm quite a bit angry with me for letting down on it. I fell back to old cookie-cake-fruit and ice cream. :rolleyes: all carbs and no protein. Kids took over control again: breakfast is toast and jam, lunch is pasta and dinner is fries and ketchup. :3kids: yesterday I went and bought myself a lamb shawarma and felt better afterwards lol I need to get ma stuff together and keep on doing the nuts and dried figs and all that...!
And let's not talk about exercise! I'm like "I can't do too exhausting gymnastics because I might be pregnant" lol what a stupid excuse I know. I'm just too lazyyyy! shame on me. need to fix that too.

OK enough venting here. Thanks for your well wishes! What about you ladies?

[Blue-dream]

Hello all I have been a silent reader of this website. Good Luck to all you ladies trying to sway blue. I have a daughter and now trying for a baby boy. I have a question while trying to sway blue, should dh abstain from ejaculating before +opk? I am 34 and dh 37. I use clear blue digital ovulation test and did get a smiley last month and BD'ed O-2 O-1 and on O but still got a BFN but he ejacuted 2 days prior to the O-2 too. This month I am not sure if he should hold of at least 2 days before dtd. What do you all suggest. I am following the diet as much as I can!

Thanks in advance for any replies.

[aira22]

Hi Blue-dream! I think it is ok that he ejaculated 2 days prior to your attempts. In fact it's a blue friendly tactic to BD every other day or have DH release every second day prior to the attempts. But 4 days will be good either since everything between 2-4 days is recommended.

[aira22]

Other blue swayers, where are you??? I feel like I'm monologizing here! LOL Need some distraction in my 2ww.

I am having light AF type cramps now... don't know if that's good or bad. I am only not going out to buy a test because it's raining and with kids that will be too stressful lol (all the umbrellas everywhere.. especially under their feet and the water jumping which will make us and everybody near us soaking wet) we will never make it there and back sane haha

[Blue-dream]

Thanks aira22. I hope you get your BFP this month. So for boy sway is it favorable to dtd O-1 and on ovation day?

[Thunderstruck7]

I'm here aira22 [emoji16] but I'm no expert so correct me if I'm wrong.

Blue dream are you doing opks to help you pin point ovulation?

The recommendation is 3 attempts from first positive opk. So that evening, next morning and evening. Multiple releases are said not to impact sperm quality if only overa few days during your fertile window.

I've gone with the every other day bd pattern for this month as I found that testing for a positive opk too difficult and stressful which affected my cycle. We also added an extra attempt when I thought I was at my peak.

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6a760f

[Thunderstruck7]

Ah don't mind me... I re-read you're original post sorry bluedream.

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6a760f

[Blue-dream]

Thanks Thunderstruck7 for the reply. Yes I am using Clear Blue digital ovulation predictor. My periods is pretty regular and I track with FF. As per FF there are 4 fertile days. But, as close to ovulation is what sways blue, I check on the second day of fertile period with CB. Last month got firm smiley that way. But this time I am also planning to use internet cheapies to track. What opk kit were you using?

[Sora]

Other blue swayers, where are you??? I feel like I'm monologizing here! LOL Need some distraction in my 2ww.

I am having light AF type cramps now... don't know if that's good or bad. I am only not going out to buy a test because it's raining and with kids that will be too stressful lol (all the umbrellas everywhere.. especially under their feet and the water jumping which will make us and everybody near us soaking wet) we will never make it there and back sane haha

I'm here aira but idk why 2 out of 3 of my posts never appeared this week :giggle: It's starting to annoy me :nono: !

I have soooo much trouble lifting weights and snacking lately ! It's too hot here, the kind of heavy warmth that just puts you to sleep ! I'm afraid I'm just setting myself for failure that way :nails: Sometimes I wonder if we should try this month at all or wait for August... But August can be warm too haha !

[aira22]

Thanks aira22. I hope you get your BFP this month. So for boy sway is it favorable to dtd O-1 and on ovation day?

Yes. O-1 and O day is good for a blue sway. As thunderstruck said, as soon as your positive on the OPK, have 3 or more attempts on same day and next day (which will be O-1 and ovulation day). On the rest of the cycle DTD every 2-4 days.

[aira22]

I'm here aira22 [emoji16]

thank you! :heart:

[tkelly621]

Do you go by positive opk or the darkest positive ?? I had a positive lastnight and then today it's even darker? So when does ovulation happen!? Starting after the first positive or the darkest positive ?39961

[Blue-dream]

As my periods are regular I just try to dtd on the day of ovulation and the day before as per FF. Just out of curiosity I test with opks. May be I am not doing the right thing to sway blue, let's see what others reply.

[Sora]

Arg that's incredible ! None of my posts did appear these last days ! It's always telling me that they will appear once a moderator will approve of them !

[aira22]

Do you go by positive opk or the darkest positive ?? I had a positive lastnight and then today it's even darker? So when does ovulation happen!? Starting after the first positive or the darkest positive ?39961

That is a good question, I'd wonder about that myself. I'd say the FIRST positive is the important surge. I'm sure there is an essay about it... let me look it up...here it is:
https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/1723-getting-started-opks.html?1723-getting-started-with-OPKs=
I hope the answer is somewhere there!


Update on myself (if anyone is interested): 13dpo now and slightly starting to feel positive as my usual spotting did not occur till now. Normally I get light spotting few days ahead of AF and that's due in 2-3 days. Also cramping has eased off. The bad thing that happened is that I caught a cold (in SUMMER!??) and that makes my temping rubbish. I'm feeling tired and hot the whole day (but no real fever), have a sore throat and congested nose. Interestingly I still am able to smell things. Could that mean an elevated sense of smell? I'm happy that I didn't test till now and was able to keep me that positive excitement. And that's mostly thanks to my kids that keep me distracted the whole day haha :running: :fight:

[Blue-dream]

That's really a good sign aira22. I am glad you could control yourself without testing. When are you planning to do the test?

[atomic sagebrush]

Sora, I sent a message to tech support about this. For some reason I often find your posts awaiting moderation and once I find them, I approve them but I don't know they are there until I stumble across them (so in threads like this one, where I don't regularly read it, I don't see it to approve them). If this happens again just sent me a message and tell me where the post is and I"ll approve it. I don't know why this happens, I know they know about it already but I assume it's not fixable. Just let me know via PM and I can approve them right away. So sorry for inconvenience.

[tkelly621]

Three days of attempts... I am exhausted!! Haha .... a little strange but hVe any of you tested hubbys sperm ph? I tested what I wiped off me afterwards and it was in the 9 territory.. green . I thinks that's good isn't it? Sorry tmi. Ttc is gross ��������

[Blue-dream]

Ha ha very true it's so exhausting! Good luck tkelly621. Did you ovulate yesterday? Also did you take any cough syrup? If so when should we start taking it? I just got Robitussin chesty cough syrup yesterday. But I see that Dextromethorphan isn't good and should be avoided if planning pregnancy.

[Sora]

It's okay, thank you anyway for looking into it atomic. Idk why that happens, when I came on the forum everything was fine at first and I very rarely had a missing post but now, I always get that moderation message even on my own thread. It's frustrating because I can't support the girls here or ask a question of my own and I'm so close TTC now I was starting to panick all on my own :nails:

[Blue-dream]

Sorry for asking so many questions girls. When we sway blue I think it's suggested husband releases every 2-4 days. So can we have sex after AF untill fertile period protected and then stop using protection during fertile period?

I am planning on having unprotected sex just 2 days before, day before and on the day of O.

Also constant smiley on CB is a positive surge? Should I also wait until I get dark like on internet cheapies?

Please let me know if I am thinking right to sway blue.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's okay, thank you anyway for looking into it atomic. Idk why that happens, when I came on the forum everything was fine at first and I very rarely had a missing post but now, I always get that moderation message even on my own thread. It's frustrating because I can't support the girls here or ask a question of my own and I'm so close TTC now I was starting to panick all on my own :nails:

I think we need to try having you log out and log back in again and also possibly turning your internet router off and on (just turn it off for a minute or so then turn it on and allow it to reboot)

I had approved quite a few of your posts. That is why I had already noticed "why are Sora's posts always needing moderation" but I thought maybe I was imagining it and hadn't contacted tech support till yesterday. I don't know why this glitch occurs, it does occasionally happen from time to time but it's never happened to one person again and again like this. So I do have the message in, but you may want to try the other things in case that helps.

So sorry for inconvenience.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry for asking so many questions girls. When we sway blue I think it's suggested husband releases every 2-4 days. So can we have sex after AF untill fertile period protected and then stop using protection during fertile period?

I am planning on having unprotected sex just 2 days before, day before and on the day of O.

Also constant smiley on CB is a positive surge? Should I also wait until I get dark like on internet cheapies?

Please let me know if I am thinking right to sway blue.

Hey, just to let everyone know, I can't keep up with these support threads where lots of people are posting lots of questions in them. If you want me to respond when you have questions like this PLEASE start a thread to ask them because otherwise I won't be able to reply to you most of the time.

Yes if you believe in Shettles you can have protected sex with a non-spermicide condom or pullout from AF-fertile period.

BUT some evidence indicates that the hormones in semen may make you more fertile and blue friendly (which is how most of us with all boys got our boys - we BD unprotected in our nonfertile times of the month and then when we were fertile, had many attempts around ovulation) and so some blue swayers prefer to have unprotected sex when not fertile as well. It's totally up to you and what you feel comfortable with - if you're worried about timing, you would use protection, if you are a believer in more sex = more boys idea, you could BD unprotected when not fertile. OR you could split the difference and BD with protection when you're sure you're not fertile, then switch to protection to avoid any O-5 thru O-3 attempts if you wish, then hit it with your planned attempts O-2, O-1, and O Day.

Yes the solid smiley is surge. NO you don't wait till u get a dark positive, you should go off first positive of any brand and start having attempts at that point in time, since in many months you won't ever get a dark positive.

[tkelly621]

Thankyou!! I got my positive around 930 Sunday night . I didn't do cough syrup, I drank green tea which helped a lot! I was surprised actually!

[tkelly621]

I'm also doing the pineapple core . It's so gross though. The texture is bleh. If I don't get pregnant this month,, I will order regular bromelein tabs

[Blue-dream]

How many green tea you drank per day? Also as that interferes with folic acid absorption how much folic acid you took? Are BD'ing with no protection every other day?

Oh talk about pineapples!! I just ate some yesterday and with my teeth sensitivity felt disgusting :(

[Blue-dream]

Thank you so much for the reply atomic. I have started BDing without protection now. As per FF I ovulate next week on Saturday. So will not BD 2 days before O and then give 3 attempts.

[Bromedha]

Thankyou!! I got my positive around 930 Sunday night . I didn't do cough syrup, I drank green tea which helped a lot! I was surprised actually!Hi ... How much green tea helped you ?...I always get very less...

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[aira22]

That's really a good sign aira22. I am glad you could control yourself without testing. When are you planning to do the test?

I think when I'm 2 or 3 days past AF was due. That's in 2 or 3 days. I'm really thinking it could be :suprise:


Three days of attempts... I am exhausted!! Haha .... a little strange but hVe any of you tested hubbys sperm ph? I tested what I wiped off me afterwards and it was in the 9 territory.. green . I thinks that's good isn't it? Sorry tmi. Ttc is gross ��������

haha, yeah ttc IS gross lol I didn't test DH sperm but I think it is always alkaline...green is good.


Thankyou!! I got my positive around 930 Sunday night . I didn't do cough syrup, I drank green tea which helped a lot! I was surprised actually!

I also drank green tea, 2 cups a day and I had the feeling it dried my CM up. I drank it 3 months or so and around the first ovulation it "worked" but then I felt like I got less and less EWCM every month...don't know if there is a relation though. If this isn't a BFP, I'm going to try without it next time. Anyways I stopped it already in the TWW. I hope it didn't hurt my sway because this cycle there was hardly any EWCM :drama:

[tkelly621]

I was putting two bags in hot tea 2x a day.

[tkelly621]

I'm taking over 2000mg of folate

[aira22]

seems I have the same posting problem as Sora now aswell..:hair:

[Sora]

I see that post though Oo...

I've got a new prob now. Should have had my OPK+ today but all my tests turned up negative :worry: Don't tell me O got delayed for whatever reason :nails: Idk what to do now... Should I still BD every 2-4 days ? I'm afraid to tire DH before the fertile window opens if it even opens that month. Of course it had to happen now after 3 cycles of perfect charting ! :mad:

[Bromedha]

Everyday ? Or only AF to P
I was putting two bags in hot tea 2x a day.

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[Bromedha]

I had this problem last pregnancy and thought it could be due to TTC stress
I see that post though Oo...

I've got a new prob now. Should have had my OPK+ today but all my tests turned up negative :worry: Don't tell me O got delayed for whatever reason :nails: Idk what to do now... Should I still BD every 2-4 days ? I'm afraid to tire DH before the fertile window opens if it even opens that month. Of course it had to happen now after 3 cycles of perfect charting ! :mad:

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[tkelly621]

i would continue! better to BD right around O in my opinion

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm also doing the pineapple core . It's so gross though. The texture is bleh. If I don't get pregnant this month,, I will order regular bromelein tabs

don't do bromelain tabs. They have appeared to cause bleeding for some people and may contribute to subchorionic hemorrhages forming.

[atomic sagebrush]

seems I have the same posting problem as Sora now aswell..:hair:

Just let me know when it happens, I have that message in to tech support about it already and I can approve any post that doesn't show up. (this is an exception to my "no PMs rule" because this is the exact kind of technical issue I want to be able to help with.)

[tkelly621]

oooh okay. Thankyou, ATOMIC!!! wont bother with them then. :-p

[Sora]

I had this problem last pregnancy and thought it could be due to TTC stress

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i would continue! better to BD right around O in my opinion

Thank you guys ! It helps a bit... I have been stressed out at the start of the cycle : planning a friend's wedding then missing it entirely because my train ran into a technical problem, quarreling with my mother in-law, traveling out of town with the girls for 5 days only to run into a big heat wave when we got back... But I honestly didn't think it would have an effect on O since it was still days away. Damn you stress, damn you ! :mad:

Anyway we'll carry on with BD and I'll keep an eye out with OPKs. My only fear now is to miss the + and get only one attempt during fertile window.:nails:

[Blue-dream]

Hi aira22 did test for pregnancy yet?

[aira22]

HI everyone, it's a BFP! :pregnant: I'm so happy and nervous at the same moment lol hope you all follow me soon! :noaf:

Sora, what happened with your ovulation?
tkelly, what dpo are you now? Still eating pineapple core? I heard of pomegranate juice and Brazil nuts to help implantation as well...

How it everyone else doing?

[Sora]

HI everyone, it's a BFP! :pregnant: I'm so happy and nervous at the same moment lol hope you all follow me soon! :noaf:

Sora, what happened with your ovulation?
tkelly, what dpo are you now? Still eating pineapple core? I heard of pomegranate juice and Brazil nuts to help implantation as well...

How it everyone else doing?

Congrats aira ! I hope it's your DS ! :running::bowdown::fx:

Well idk what happened to me. O should be in full swing, we should be doing our three attempts, but... OPK all came out negative. So i'm in the dark, idk what to do anymore. We're still attempting in case O is there still but well... I doubt I would get false negatives now after three months of perfect OPK+ right on time :tissue:

Full of doubts now, even wonder if we should call it off for this month (if it isn't too late). I'm even wondering if I could have O sooner but it would surprise me immensely, I've never been one to O sooner than expected. If something happens, I'm usually late, period. But well, now that I don't know what's going on, I'm afraid of having only one attempt and swaying pink inadvertently.

[Thunderstruck7]

Congratulations Aira! [emoji253][emoji253][emoji322][emoji322] so many BFPs on this site this month it's amazing!

Here's to a happy and healthy 9 months and it's your little blue sticky bean you'd been hoping for xx

[Blue-dream]

Oh wow congrats aira22. Wish you a healthy happy pregnancy and hope it's a boy ☺️

[aira22]

Congrats aira ! I hope it's your DS ! :running::bowdown::fx:

Well idk what happened to me. O should be in full swing, we should be doing our three attempts, but... OPK all came out negative. So i'm in the dark, idk what to do anymore. We're still attempting in case O is there still but well... I doubt I would get false negatives now after three months of perfect OPK+ right on time :tissue:

Full of doubts now, even wonder if we should call it off for this month (if it isn't too late). I'm even wondering if I could have O sooner but it would surprise me immensely, I've never been one to O sooner than expected. If something happens, I'm usually late, period. But well, now that I don't know what's going on, I'm afraid of having only one attempt and swaying pink inadvertently.

Thank you! :)

Your O-confusion sounds really annoying. My advice would be: keep on BDing! EOD is a blue friendly method as well. FX everything turns out all right!

[Bromedha]

HI everyone, it's a BFP! :pregnant: I'm so happy and nervous at the same moment lol hope you all follow me soon! :noaf:

Sora, what happened with your ovulation?
tkelly, what dpo are you now? Still eating pineapple core? I heard of pomegranate juice and Brazil nuts to help implantation as well...

How it everyone else doing?Congrats aira

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[Sora]

Thanks for the advice aira ! Yes, we carry on with the BD anyway, you never know and I try to tell myself that in all eras mothers have been able to conceive blue without the help of OPKs :ttc:

[tkelly621]

Omg you guys! I just got a vvvvcvfl on a Walmart test!!! Freaking out....will update tomorrow morning . 8dpo today �������� and oh my gosh, congratulations AIRA!!! Does that mean we’ll have close due dates???

[Blue-dream]

Wow congratulations tkelly621. So glad many are getting BFP. I pray that it's your baby boy.

Girls with CB should I use fmu for ovulation test? Because it says use fmu. But did the test yesterday evening around 5:30pm and it came out as non fertile. As per FF my fertile days start from tomorrow and I ovulate on Sunday.

DH released on Sunday morning so planning to do it tonight also. And then I plan to BD Friday, Saturday and Sunday hoping I ovulate as I did every cycle.
I am 34 and DH 37.

Please let me know if this sounds like a good plan for a boy.

[Sora]

Congrats tkelly !!!!! Hope it's all good and you get your boy !

OMG OPK turned out ++++ finally ! I thought I was done for this time around ! Well DH is not on holidays anymore of course but we'll manage !

And now I'm starting to worry, did I sway fine and all ? I had so much ice-cream because of heat lately, not good ! And I ate less ! Yesterday wasn't hungry, felt crampy ! Aaaahhh ! :running:

[aira22]

Omg you guys! I just got a vvvvcvfl on a Walmart test!!! Freaking out....will update tomorrow morning . 8dpo today �������� and oh my gosh, congratulations AIRA!!! Does that mean we’ll have close due dates???


EEEkkk tkelly!!!!! vvvvfcongrats haha Can't wait for the update, but a line is a line. Yes, that means we're both due April!! I'm so happy for you! I hope this is your blue bundle :ttcboy:

[aira22]

Congrats tkelly !!!!! Hope it's all good and you get your boy !

OMG OPK turned out ++++ finally ! I thought I was done for this time around ! Well DH is not on holidays anymore of course but we'll manage !

And now I'm starting to worry, did I sway fine and all ? I had so much ice-cream because of heat lately, not good ! And I ate less ! Yesterday wasn't hungry, felt crampy ! Aaaahhh ! :running:


Yeah Sora, now go for it!!! :giggle:
I can sooo understand you worrying about the sway. And it will get worse once you get a BFP lol I think ice cream is not bad at all! it makes up for eating less, think about it that way.
I had no food for 7hrs right on ovulation day, not enough exercise, a very low testosterone level and I had the least amount of EWCM ever, blah ... and I'm thinking about that stuff every day... I know -ridiculous! :drama:

Ok, :fx: for a BFP in 2weeks!

[aira22]

DH released on Sunday morning so planning to do it tonight also. And then I plan to BD Friday, Saturday and Sunday hoping I ovulate as I did every cycle.
I am 34 and DH 37.

Please let me know if this sounds like a good plan for a boy.

Sounds like a good plan to me! I hope your ovulation is on time! :fingers:

[Tharyla]

Hi girls,

Can I please join?

I’m 29 with one DD who will turn 3 in a couple of months. I am hoping for a boy this time so I started the diet 3 weeks ago. Ovulation is in 2 days but I will miss this cycle to be better prepared. I am starting to get nervous. :nails: Next ovulation is supposed to be 1 Sept.
Congrats to everyone with BFPs

[Sora]

Of course you can ! Welcome ! :bighug:

You're right about skipping that O, better be well prepared, 3 weeks seems a bit short for the diet to settle in.

[tkelly621]

Still getting positives on cheap tests but negative on first response lastnight ��������*♀️

[Blue-dream]

Thanks aira22. I did get a solid smiley today morning. BD'ing straight 3 days but only in the night though as husband is working on weekends.

[Blue-dream]

Post the pics if possible tkelly621. May be the FR batch is faulty.

[Blue-dream]

Also girls do you all think I should BD just 3 nights or tonight, tomorrow morning and then again tomorrow night?

[tkelly621]

Sorry! Forgot to update y’all. I got my bfp on frer @10dpo. So strange that there cheap ones picked it up first ����


Aira... when is your due date then??

Good luck everyone . I went with the day after positive opk, day after and day after .. all around same time ������������������ So nervous but team green soooo haha we won’t know for along time

[aira22]

Also girls do you all think I should BD just 3 nights or tonight, tomorrow morning and then again tomorrow night?
I think the more BD the better :bigsmile:



Sorry! Forgot to update y’all. I got my bfp on frer @10dpo. So strange that there cheap ones picked it up first ����


Aira... when is your due date then??

Good luck everyone . I went with the day after positive opk, day after and day after .. all around same time ������������������ So nervous but team green soooo haha we won’t know for along time

Yeah! congrats for confirmed BFP :cheerteam: My due date is around 5th of April.

[Blue-dream]

Two attempts done and planning on one more tonight. Lots of ewcm this morning but couldn't BD as we just did last night.

Should BDing tonight be ok? As per FF I ovulate today. Should I also BD tomorrow? That will be straight 4 nights of BD!

Edited to add: managed to do BD this afternoon too! Lots of ewcm. Now not sure if we should do it tonight or tomorrow.

[Blue-dream]

Congratulations tkelly621. Wow this is a good month many on this thread are getting BFP and I hope it's all boy babies.

[Blue-dream]

Sora how did you go with your BDs? How many attempts did you manage to fit in?

[Sora]

Sora how did you go with your BDs? How many attempts did you manage to fit in?

Hey Blue, my BDs were a little bit crazy since O was delayed in my case. We did 3-4 attempts around the original O date, just in case OPK was a false negative. Finally OPK+ came in three days after our last BD. So that would make it :

July 28th 1 attempt (original date of OPK+)
July 29th 2 attempts morning/night
July 30th (original O date in the morning) nothing cause DH was tired and feeling a bit unwell because of the heat.
July 31st normal BD to have a regular release
August 1st OPK+ finally !!!! BD that night
August 2nd 2 attempts morning/night after DH came home (cause of couuurse O had to delay til DH was back to work)
August 3rd 1 attempt at night after DH's work.
Now resting and will pick back up on every 2-3 days at least 2 days from now.

And of course I'm on 2WW now.

[Blue-dream]

:cool: that's a lot BDing and definitely boy friendly. I like how all you ladies always reply to messages.

I got non flashing smiley on Friday morning and BDed - Friday night 1 attempt, Saturday night 1 attempt and Sunday mid morning as I had lots of ewcm and if possible will BD tonight also.

Hope we all get our baby boys this month.

[Sora]

:cool: that's a lot BDing and definitely boy friendly. I like how all you ladies always reply to messages.

I got non flashing smiley on Friday morning and BDed - Friday night 1 attempt, Saturday night 1 attempt and Sunday mid morning as I had lots of ewcm and if possible will BD tonight also.

Hope we all get our baby boys this month.

Seems like a good plan Blue ! I hope it works for you !

Do not refrain on asking questions, this is what this thread is for too ! Of course, if you really do have a doubt about something, better create a new thread or use your TTC thread if you have one to ask atomic directly ! She will have more precise answers for you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes! I can't keep up with the support threads where lots of people are posting, so whenever you have a question please just hit me up and ask me by starting a new thread in the forum! I answer all questions you guys ask and am ready and waiting to help, just that these support threads are way too busy for me to be able to keep up to speed with. :)

[aira22]

Good luck to you Sora!! Definitely a lot of BD there! :highfive: In that way, your delayed ovulation was a good thing. Happy 2ww!

Blue-dream: good luck to you too!!! :bluesperm:


can't wait for your BFP announcements :fx:

With me, the waiting just goes on... I got an appointment end of august for the "heart beat scan". I don't feel any different to how I felt in my last pregnancies (only tiredness and mild nausea), so I'm a bit nervous... I was hoping for some major difference but for 6 weeks it's maybe a bit early.

[aira22]

Sorry! Forgot to update y’all. I got my bfp on frer @10dpo. So strange that there cheap ones picked it up first ����


Aira... when is your due date then??

Good luck everyone . I went with the day after positive opk, day after and day after .. all around same time ������������������ So nervous but team green soooo haha we won’t know for along time

I replied already some days or so ago, but the message must have got stuck somewhere...

Huge congrats tkelly on confirmed BFP!! My due date is somewhere around 5th of April..

I'm also thinking of going team green, but only if it's a girl :rofl: no, serious...I think it's a good thing, but also must be too hard, when you're so curious (and I ammm!!) I know I will be staring at the ultrasound monitor every time hoping to catch a glance at the nub lol

[tkelly621]

Sounds good ,ladies!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!!! 2ww is awful!!!!!! --- now that i have my bfp, my mind goes right to what if its another girl? haha i dont wanna feel disapointed. I havent called for an appt yet, i was waiting for my lines to get darker... i guess im kinda of in denial still.

what do you guys think about our BD's. I got a postiive opk, we BD the day after(trying to get as close to O as possibe , then the next day and the next day... same time.. we gave it 24 hours in between each so sperm could regernate :-p i cant help but be nervous that its another girl... which i would LOVE reguardless but we need a little boy in this house <3

im also having some anxiety already... with feeling off. Ive been mildly nauseous here and there usually if i let myself get hungry, but i am also having bad hot flashes, and times when i feel weak & shakey :( makes me anxious and scared to go anywhere. Im petrified of how im gonna feel in a couple weeks :( we go on vacation Aug 25 -- i will be 7 weeks, so it should hit me by then but im HOPING and praying NOT.

[aira22]

tkelly, I can so understand you with the thoughts on another girl lol but at some point "it" has to work finally right? I mean, we deserve it :cool: And just when I was wondering how many girls a family could possibly have, I saw a show on youtube where a family had 12 daughters!! One son. And I was like come on!

I'm also having quite the same symptoms (almost 6 weeks now) mild nausea, hot flashes, tiredness and feeling weak at some moments. Crazy enough I hope this changes to "stronger" symptoms in a couple of weeks haha because with my girls I had nothing more than that the entire pregnancy.
But I hoe for you that NO more symptoms come up!! Especially not in your vacation!

[Blue-dream]

Also girls last night we could not BD as husband was sleepy and tired. I now just have wet feeling but no ewcm. Do you girls think we should BD tonight as well? Now I am thinking should have BDed last night :(

But for tonight it would give 36 hrs for sperms to regenerate.

[aira22]

blue-dream when was your +OPK? Did you ovulate already? Do you use the temping method to confirm ovulation?
I remember reading in one of atomic's essays that 24h after ovulation the egg starts to die if not fertilized by then. So IN MOST CASES no need for BD more than 48h after +OPK because NORMALLY eggs comes within 24h after LH surge. BUT the thing is, if anything gets messed up with ovulation and it gets delayed, you are on the save side to keep on BD every other day or so after the suspected ovulation for some days.

So the very best timing days are: (O-3, O-2), O-1, O, (O+1) in this time frame you should get at least 3BDs.

did you use guaifenesin tablets/syrup?

[Blue-dream]

Hi aira22 I don't temp. I only use CB digital purple one. Got a smiley on Friday morning. BDed Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon. On Sunday had lots of ewcm and end of the day it was just watery. Today - Monday is almost dry now.

Also as per FF I ovulated on Sunday. This is just based on the color codes. It was same even last month but didn't conceive last month. Could be because of very less or no ewcm during sex.

So you think I should BD tonight or wait till tomorrow and just carry on with EOD this week?

[Sora]

But O is not always 24h after, to my knowledge, it can happen 36-48 hours after the first OPK+ :think:. IDK about you since we always talk about that first positive but I tested my entire fertile window during those 3 months + and OPKs stay positive for a total of 36 hours at the very least. The positive comes in the afternoon, is still there the day after, still there the morning after and disappear around 3 pm.

I don't believe in different symptoms meaning the other gender anymore. DD1 and DD2 were as different as night and day. Couldn't eat much with DD1 and had massive pregnancy symptoms : nausea, rash, stomachache, cramps, pain in my legs so strong I could barely walk, insomnia... DD2 was a walk in the park and I desperately craved salt. Because of that, DH was pretty sure it was a boy (that and Shettles timing). In the end both were pink.

[Blue-dream]

Ok now I am with you Sora in the 2ww. Managed to sneak in BD last night. Now will just take it easy for 2 days!

[aira22]

good luck blue-dream! If your o was on Sunday, then you got 4 attempts in the fertile window. That's very good!!! :fx:

[baby42019]

What do you all think about an attempt when sick? Does that favor girl? Today is O day, but I was sick with a high fever yesterday so no attempts. I feel much better today, fever broke in the night, but i don’t know if this cycle is already ruined. As it is, we could get an attempt tonight but hubby wakes too early to try in the morning also.


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[aira22]

But O is not always 24h after, to my knowledge, it can happen 36-48 hours after the first OPK+ :think:. IDK about you since we always talk about that first positive but I tested my entire fertile window during those 3 months + and OPKs stay positive for a total of 36 hours at the very least. The positive comes in the afternoon, is still there the day after, still there the morning after and disappear around 3 pm.
yes, you are right, that can be sometimes... no one knows when it really happens. Each body is different and sometimes o won't happen even after seeing +opk because of stressful events and you would get another +opk some days later.... Only thing that helps is temping, so one can confirm it has really happened at some point.


I don't believe in different symptoms meaning the other gender anymore. DD1 and DD2 were as different as night and day. Couldn't eat much with DD1 and had massive pregnancy symptoms : nausea, rash, stomachache, cramps, pain in my legs so strong I could barely walk, insomnia... DD2 was a walk in the park and I desperately craved salt. Because of that, DH was pretty sure it was a boy (that and Shettles timing). In the end both were pink.

I know its not true, but I can't help worrying about it...

[atomic sagebrush]

What do you all think about an attempt when sick? Does that favor girl? Today is O day, but I was sick with a high fever yesterday so no attempts. I feel much better today, fever broke in the night, but i don’t know if this cycle is already ruined. As it is, we could get an attempt tonight but hubby wakes too early to try in the morning also.


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We honestly don't know and generally we err on the side of caution and skip months where you're ill, unless you've been trying a very long time or are over 40.

[baby42019]

We honestly don't know and generally we err on the side of caution and skip months where you're ill, unless you've been trying a very long time or are over 40.

Thank you! That’s kind of my knee jerk reaction. I’m not over 40, but getting close lol I can probably wait til next month :/


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[atomic sagebrush]

I PROMISE after having been in contact with 1,234,567,890 people on the two sites since 2008 plus my own pregnancies and my mom's pregnancies and all our friends' pregancies and also having read at least that many studies on the subject, symptoms do not predict gender in any reliable way. I know no one ever believes me but i have a compulsion about telling you guys that after having a girl with the lowest heart rate of my 5 pregnancies and having a boy with every girl craving and symptom in the book (and the latter nearly destroyed me!!!)

[tkelly621]

Time will tell if we can have a boy but we are definitely done after this. No more. Five already seems insane . I’m having trouble believing I’m pregnant . lol

[Blue-dream]

Thanks aira22. Hope it's my month.

This 2ww is not good!!! I wish we knew instantly. LOL ..

[Blue-dream]

Hi Sora how are going with your 2ww?? How many dpo are you?

[Sora]

Hi Sora how are going with your 2ww?? How many dpo are you?

Hey Blue ! I... may be 7dpo... or something ? Not thinking about it much and not in a hurry to test. IDK, am a little bit afraid ? As if the test could tell me already "it's another girl you failed haha enjoy your nine months !". That's crazy I know :giggle:

As an aside, I'm really not convinced with temping. First, it's difficult when you already have kids, cause you have trouble waking up at the same hour every day and too many things can throw it off : fever, insomnia... Look how many of us were sick this summer... And there was that heat wave. Pretty sure my body was warmer than usual during these 2 weeks or so before O and all the showers would have just thrown off the basal temp i think ? It's just my opinion of course but I remember seeing so much girls trying to temp and being even more lost and failing to conceive for months...:worry:

[Sora]

Wish we could do Harmony test :rolleyes:

[Blue-dream]

That's really good Sora. I am trying to stay away from testing but can't stop thinking about it though! I am still 5 dpo.

I know! it would have been good to have a urine harmony test kit ��

[Sora]

Hello girls, very sleepy lately. It usuallly happens when I'm at the start of a new pregnancy so I wonder... :think:

[Blue-dream]

That's really good Sora. I am sure you will get your BFP and of course your boy with the amount of BD you have done this month.

I just don't feel any different! Until I strongly feel something I have decided not to test.

[Sora]

That's really good Sora. I am sure you will get your BFP and of course your boy with the amount of BD you have done this month.

I just don't feel any different! Until I strongly feel something I have decided not to test.

Hehe same as you Blue ! I'll wait til I'm very late in my period...

[aira22]

Hello girls, very sleepy lately. It usuallly happens when I'm at the start of a new pregnancy so I wonder... :think:

my fingers are crossed!!

[aira22]

I just don't feel any different! Until I strongly feel something I have decided not to test.

I can recommend this strategy. relax and time will give you the answer. it was really less stressful now than other times when I tested early - and daily- and after seeing no line, I started googling nervously what could be the least possible dpo to get BFP still. Not good.

nevertheless I'm curiousssss for your results!

[tkelly621]

Good luck ladies !! Any updates ? How are you feeling AIRA? I’m 5 weeks todya and already feeling yucky! I’m not excited for what’s to come . Looks like my dream of not feeling yucky isn’t gonna happen :’(

[aira22]

Good luck ladies !! Any updates ? How are you feeling AIRA? I’m 5 weeks todya and already feeling yucky! I’m not excited for what’s to come . Looks like my dream of not feeling yucky isn’t gonna happen :’(

Oh no... stay strong tkelly!

I'm 7weeks now and not feeling that yucky but with constant mild nausea. So far it hasn't become worse. My "problem" is my TIREDNESS! I'm like sleepy all day long and sooo exhausted. My brain is in standby too. I'm doing weird stuff like pouring salad dressing into the fried noodles on the stove instead of the salad bowl beside it... or wearing a dress inside-out and noticing it when I'm in the store doing groceries.
Apart from that, everything is fine and I'm looking forward to my first scan next week.

[Blue-dream]

Oh tkelly hope you feel better!

Good luck with your scan aira.

I kinda have lost hope that this is not my month :(I have no symptoms other than feeling dizzy that too during day not as soon as I wake up.

Last month had such horrible bloating, breasts were so tender and thought I was pregnant but turned out to be negative.
This month with no symptoms at all I have no hopes ☹️

I am 9dpo as per FF.

[aira22]

Don't give up hope blue-dream! I had no symptoms whatsoever in the BFP cycle. The waiting is hard.

[Blue-dream]

Thanks aira22. That's comforting. I am not sure if I should test tomorrow as I will be 11dpo.

[Sora]

Oh no... stay strong tkelly!

I'm 7weeks now and not feeling that yucky but with constant mild nausea. So far it hasn't become worse. My "problem" is my TIREDNESS! I'm like sleepy all day long and sooo exhausted. My brain is in standby too. I'm doing weird stuff like pouring salad dressing into the fried noodles on the stove instead of the salad bowl beside it... or wearing a dress inside-out and noticing it when I'm in the store doing groceries.
Apart from that, everything is fine and I'm looking forward to my first scan next week.

You never had that kind of symptoms before aira ? It is exactly what I had with DD1 (not that I'm saying yours a girl, you know I don't believe in symptoms telling the gender). The tiredness should fade after the second month or so... The mild nausea, not so sure, maybe during the 4th to 5th month.:omg:

Hang on tkelly ! If it can help, I've never known a pregnancy without nausea and one of my friend have never had any with her children. So jealous ! But she couldn't feel the taste of her toothpaste and her favorite perfume smelled horrible to her although it was still perfectly fine to me.


Oh tkelly hope you feel better!

Good luck with your scan aira.

I kinda have lost hope that this is not my month :(I have no symptoms other than feeling dizzy that too during day not as soon as I wake up.

Last month had such horrible bloating, breasts were so tender and thought I was pregnant but turned out to be negative.
This month with no symptoms at all I have no hopes ☹️

I am 9dpo as per FF.

Don't loose hope Blue ! My symptoms have been weird too. At first it felt like a new pregnancy, then yesterday it felt like AF would start and now it's a mix of the two. I have tiredness, tender breasts, a hard tummy and am crying about everything which is what usually happens when I'm preg but on the other hand I've got some lower-back pains and CM looks more like we're nearing AF than otherwise, and don't start me on the bloating :nails:
I'm now nearing 14 dpo and still not wanting to test, I'm really afraid :worry: