Vitamin E and some more questions

[Twogirls0607]

First of all hello from mama from South Europe. I am reading this forum for few months already (so sorry for my english) and i found a lot of info. I have two girls age 4 and 2 and we would love third to be boy.

I tried to adjust diet and supplements to my country but i cant find ANY info about swaying (taboo).

I am using complex (there is 10 vitamins and 10minerals) which i find ok for my diet, 2500 folic acid, green tea and made changes in my diet and lifestyle, which was very girl friendly

I recently found omega3 supplement which has vit E and D3. I am not sure if i should take it becouse it has 12mg of vit E , and i am taking already 9mg E in complex of vitamins. That would be 21mg of vit E, isn't that much? I believe i can find just omega3, and keep taking my complex, what do you think?

Once again BIG hug from me, i guess you dont know how helpfull you all are

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome!

Yes I prefer you stick with the lower amount of Vit. E if possible. Larger amounts of Vitamin E may not be beneficial. BUT, 12 mg of Vit. E is really not so much. If you can't find any other supplement you like, that one is still ok. Some people take 400-800 mg Vitamin E and that is WAY too much. 12 mg is a small amount and is probably ok, if you can't find any other option.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you atomic for answer me.. I hope i did not misunderstood, you think i should stop taking that omega with 12mg vit E?

Sorry but i am confused, its 21mg a day (9mg in multivitamin and 12 in omega)

Multivitamin in my country always have about 12-15 amount of vit E. Its hard (inpossible) to find vitamins without E, but maybe i can find omega without vit E.

I read in many sites that adults can take about 15mg a day synthetic form of vit E, so that part is what im worried about.

[atomic sagebrush]

If you can find an Omega without the extra Vit. E, please do.

If you can't, it's no big deal and you should take it anyway. It is not that high.

I'm sorry I knew my first answer was too confusing!!

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you atomic for your patience and answers, I am quite new in all this, I never in my life took vitamins not even folic acid in my two pregnancies, just iron in my 8 and9 month 2nd pregnancy.

I read that is not recomended too much synthetic vit E when ttc, also read about people who had way bigger amount but they have other health issues

Today will see in drugstores what can I find, probably omega without E, and continue multivit with 9mgE

Should I post my sway attempt?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I agree too much Vit. E is not good, but the amount you're taking (even with the other supplement) is not that high. Some people are taking 400-1000 mg Vit E and that is more than I like!

So if you can find the Omega without the Vit. E, that is great, if not, it is still going to be ok. :)

Yes please post your sway and I will go over it for you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I agree too much Vit. E is not good, but the amount you're taking (even with the other supplement) is not that high. Some people are taking 400-1000 mg Vit E and that is more than I like!

So if you can find the Omega without the Vit. E, that is great, if not, it is still going to be ok. :)

Yes please post your sway and I will go over it for you.

[Twogirls0607]

Hi from me again, hope someone will answer..

I changed my fish oil to another that does not have vitamin E. So im taking prenatal, actualy complex that have 10vit and 10 minerals. I take one large cup of green tea a day and one cup of coffee, folic acid about 2500-3000 mcg a day, and my cycle suddenly changed. Its already 16cd and no positive opk test. My last cycle was 30days long. Should i avoid something or add?

[atomic sagebrush]

It's very likely the green tea. Let's leave that out for a while.

How much Vitamin B6 is in your vitamin?

[Twogirls0607]

I thought of that but wasnt sure.. In my bbt chart last 2 cycles my o was 18-19 day which is unusual but cycles were longer so it seems ok. In multivitamin is 1.05mg of vit b6, it says is 75% of recomended daily intake (sorry for my english). So i just stop taking green tea tommorow?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes just drop the green tea, I've seen this delay O for quite a few people. That level of B6 is not likely to be causing any trouble so just continue. It may take a few days or even a couple weeks after stopping the green tea before things get back to normal again.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you so much for answer! I did leave green tea out of diet, today i have temp lower than these days so i will see what happens tomorow. My opk is little darker but still neg. So glad i didnt ttc this cycle, do you think next will be ok? Im going to foliculemetry next cycle, hope i will know the o day.

Does the hair coloring affects somehow boy sway?

Big thanks again :kissy:

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I think next month will be great! Plus we will be in the "boy peak" months then!!

I think we had a translation error, what are you doing next cycle? I'm sorry I can't quite figure that word out.

I always dyed my hair since I was 18 years old and I have gotten 4 boys while doing so. :)

[Twogirls0607]

That is great! Im colloring my hair today and tommorow, so just wondering does it affect anything.

Im so sorry for my translation, usualy write in a hurry so i dont menage to translate very good. Its follicle ultrasound, dr is monitoring my ovaries so we can catch egg.

Can you tell me why is boy peak months? Cant remmember i read about that

[atomic sagebrush]

I would try to keep hair coloring as far apart as you can (so don't go get it touched up every 2 weeks or whatever) just to be cautious!

BD on ovulation doesn't really sway so just be sure you are having more than one attempt. One attempt has been a strong pink sway. If you want to stick with timing (even though it does not work) you can have an attempt on O-1, then on the morning of O Day if you possibly can, and then again the following night (night of O Day). 3 or more attempts has been blue friendly.

[Twogirls0607]

Yes, i know about timing, from one attempt we got uor dd2, we are planning one attempt after pos opk and the next morning, its very hard to be intimous in our home, with our girls that are very active. And with all that to add dh job, he have to be all day available. But with monitoring/ultrasound we will know days before and day of o, its not the first time i do that, what i wanted to say, i want to be sure when my o is, by folowing follicles growth, so i can do the best of us for sway. We will deff.try third attempt, hope it will be possible.

I do my hair coloring once in 3 months, hope its ok.

Thank you again for your time atomic!

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: yes once in 3 months is perfect - that's what I did too when TTC.

:agree: your plan looks great to me! Good luck and blue dust!

[Twogirls0607]

Hi everybody, i had some trouble this cycle. My period was 3 days late and when it came it just dont stop, its day 12 and i stil have some spotting, old brown spots on my underwear.

I did my blood check and still waiting for apointment with my dr to read results, with my other dr i did folliculometry (not sure if i spell right) everything looks ok, on my cd 9 i had follicle on my left ovary 22mm but endonetrium seems to be small, 3,5cm, after two days it was 7,5 cm.

We decided to take a pause this month and dr told me about inositol . i had very stressful week which i think messed things up. She (dr) thinks that inositol could make endometrium better and regulate my cycle a little bit.

What should i expect with inositol,is it really helpfull, what could be the problem, reason for my long period this cycle, besides stress? Is it maybe all those vitamins i take? Is it maybe still green tea affecting my hormones? (i stop drinking it when i realise that my ovulation is few days later than usual and so my period is always late)

[atomic sagebrush]

DO NOT take inositol. We don't even know what the problem is here. Inositol can sway pink (we have 12 of 13 girls conceived with inositol + pink sways) and if you take it when you don't need to it can really mess things up. Inositol is brand new to doctors, they haven't seen the side effects that I have seen and are suddenly telling everyone and their duck to take it without any experience or knowledge about the trouble it can cause for people.

A 3 day late period is no big deal. That just means you ovulated 3 days late. That does not need any regulation whatsoever. I'm more concerned about so many days of bleeding. Can you please give me a recap of everything - and I mean EVERYTHING even aspirin - that you took this last 6 weeks???

[Twogirls0607]

Silly me, already started inozitol, for 2 days. My dr said i should be helpfull for my lining, so that doesnt work that way? Its medication from Italy called Isofolic, contain myo-inositol and small amount of folic acid.

Ok, for the past 6 weeks i took ibuprofen for head pains, about 2 or 1 times a week, and on my period because its painful.

I took omega 3 fish oil, green tea (i stop that few weeks ago) i drank gellatin this cycle af-o actualy i stop that cd10 .
Folic acid about 3000mcg
About 3 times i had my stomach pains so i took medication for that (that never caused me trouble)
My multivitamin have
Vit c 60mg
Niacin 12mg
Vit E 9mg
Pantoteic acid 4,5mg
Vit B6 1,05mg
Vit B2 1,05mg
Vit B1 0,825mg
Folic acid 150mcg
D- biotin 37,5 mcg
Vit B12 1, 875mcg
Zinc 10,6mg
Iron 9,9mg
I 100mcg
Rutin 1mg
Lutein 300mcg

I think thats all, i m eating way healthier than before, one cup of coffe only, no cigarettes

And i almost forgot few times a week i take bs drink, and this cycle i took it af to cd10, once a day.

[Twogirls0607]

Sorry for my two in a row posts i just wanted to ask one more thing.

Since im 5kg overweight i decided to do light HE diet, with extra bananas and potassium rich foods. I dont think that could mess up my cycle this way but multivitamin and green tea maybe could, these are things i never used before. So if i stop using multivitamins and green tea, and keep going with my folic and healthy vit rich foods, gellatin and fish oil with omega 3, would that still be ok for my boy sway? That is because i think my body maybe dont need all that extra stuff, i was felling much better without that complex of vitamins and so my cycles were reggular with o on 12-13 day.

Sorry again if im difficult to understand and i really appreciate that you answer all my doubts atomic

[atomic sagebrush]

how much fish oil are you taking?

Unless your doctor has scanned you and seen that your lining is poor (and bleeding that long indicates to me that your lining is plentiful!) you have no reason to take inositol. Really can't recommend that.

[Twogirls0607]

I take it once a day, and this is what is on box
1000mg fish oil
180mg EPA
120mg DHA

I was on ultrasound and there my dr could see about lining, cd 10 it was 7,5 mm and cd8 3,5. I dont know there is so much info, but if i start why my cycle messed up i think i dont need inositol. Dont have pcos or any hormonal problem before this

Spotting finaly stopped today. If you can read my last two posts i would really appreciate if you tell me your opinion about my swaying.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ah yes it's likely the fish oil. Let's try cutting that back to every 2 days instead. Some people are super sensitive to the blood thinning effects of the fish oil and taking that much will cause extended bleeding times. So you'd only take those fish oils 3x a week instead of daily.

I also do not think you need the inositol and strongly urge you not to add it in. Doctors have been handing it out like candy the last few months and acting liek it's harmless but they've done that in the past with things that have ended up being harmFUL and so I really advise against taking it without cause.

That lining is perfectly fine for that part of the cycle and you can see that lovely difference between CD 8 and CD 10 which means it was growing just as it should.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry for my two in a row posts i just wanted to ask one more thing.

Since im 5kg overweight i decided to do light HE diet, with extra bananas and potassium rich foods. I dont think that could mess up my cycle this way but multivitamin and green tea maybe could, these are things i never used before. So if i stop using multivitamins and green tea, and keep going with my folic and healthy vit rich foods, gellatin and fish oil with omega 3, would that still be ok for my boy sway? That is because i think my body maybe dont need all that extra stuff, i was felling much better without that complex of vitamins and so my cycles were reggular with o on 12-13 day.

Sorry again if im difficult to understand and i really appreciate that you answer all my doubts atomic

There is no benefit to eating a bunch of bananas. All bananas are is empty carbs (and they are not even good sources of potassium compared to other fruit and veg!) and if weight is an issue you're simply giving yourself empty carbs wihtout any other benefits for your sway. I suggest going and looking up other potassium foods that are lower in calories and eating those instead and ditching the bananas totally.

Why are you stopping multivitamins?? One of the best things for a blue sway! The ones you were taking did not even have the megadoses in them and are fine to continue. And if you do want to stop multivitamins, please wean off of them. Don't stop them all of a sudden, that can be even worse for your health!

[atomic sagebrush]

Post from previous page - That amount of ibuprofen should be ok.

Your multivitamins are absolutely perfect and fine, I strongly urge you to continue. Whatever is going on, it is very unlikely that the multivitamin is the issue.

I strongly suggest dropping the baking soda drink. While I don't know for sure if that could cause this bleeding, it is not healthy at all and doesn't even work for swaying. I think this is something that could absolutely be making you feel very unwell, and I think you are mistaking the multivitamin for making you feel poorly when really it's the baking soda drink.

[Twogirls0607]

Atomic, thank you so so much for your answers!

I did not stop taking multivitamins and i will do take fish oil every other day. Bs drink i used to take way before my sway, im not sure that could be the issue but i will cut that off then, just in case. I will work on potassium rich food then, if you can give me some suggest i would really appreciate that

I dont drink inositol, just had 4 bags(2 days) i thats it. From reading all i could find, i think its not nessesery for me, i dont have big problems, just my few cycles were longer, ovulation seems to be later.

So my linning is ok, that is great to hear!
Problem is that i cant buy preseed or any sperm friendly lubricate here in my region, and i do believe in rising my ph, that is the reason i took bs drink, and i cant imagine putting eggwhites, it seems complicated to me. Now my ph is about 6, i would like to raise that for at least 7,5 when o.

Someone suggested me to eat pineapples for linning? Is that ok?

You helped me so much, i was very nervous about that bleeding and everything

[atomic sagebrush]

All fruits and vegetables have tons of potassium so I'd find things that were lower in calories (if you need fewer calories) and higher in other nutrients than bananas are. Here's one list but there are many others online. https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-rich-in-potassium#1

Pineapple is great for blue :agree: If you go too heavy on it (as in take supplements instead of eating pineapple) then it may cause bleeding though, so I'd stick with just eating fresh pineapple in a sane amount.

I got my 4 boys and never used any sperm safe lubricant. Please no egg whites, that is not safe. I would be thrilled by a pH of 6 and not at ovulation. I got my 4th boy with a pH of 4.5 that never went up till I was already pregnant!

I would have you do the fish oil every 2 days for now since you are clearly having symptoms from it. I want to get the extended bleeding under control before you go to every other day.

[Twogirls0607]

I already started fush oil every 2 days, i believe it can be the cause of bleeding. I dont know if i can relate those 2 things but i cut my finger just a little bit the other day, but it was to long bleeding, way more than usual.

Thank you for that list, and yes i already found potassium rich foods and i of course include them in my diet. I try to drink tomato juice but i like it better in my cooking, potatos and carrots i eat almost every day. Dry fruits, grapefruit, (oranges cant find now) pears, apples, i take them few times a week. I think i adjust diet preety good for my region(i cant find here a lot of stuff and supps that you mention in essays).

You are so helpfull, i always read your answer with such a excitement, i cant talk to anybody here, nobody knows anything about swaying its almost taboo.

Oh and its preety expensive here to buy fresh pineaple, can i replace it with canned one, cut in circle? I thought about eating 2-3 circles a day would be fine?

Right before period my ph is between 5 and 6 and in my o days, especialy when i have big O is almost 7, i hope this is fine. Have to say i cut off my sweets, chocolate (which i consumed alot) and soda drinks (coke, pepsi, etc), well all unhealthy food that i took while having girls, and i think that actualy can lower ph. My skin looks better also!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes exactly! That's just what happens if your blood is not clotting normally. I know it's hard to believe but some of us (myself included) are super sensitive to the blood thinners and will bleed massive amounts even taking doses that others have no symptoms on.

It's said that the canned pineapple no longer has the active bromelain that helps with lining. You can try papaya instead if you can get that more easily, it has a chemical that acts very similar. Pomegranate juice is also said to help with lining.

Yes that pH is great! Lots of people would be thrilled with that as their natural pH for swaying blue! There are some people who insist on having that ridiculously high pH but it doesn't exist in nature, that is not something that really ever happens even among those of us with all boys. The pH of the semen when you start BD will get that even higher and it will all be in natural range where sperm thrive.

I think you're very much on the right track! Keep up the good work and sending you tons of blue dust.

[Twogirls0607]

That is so great to hear, about ph! With my girls i usualy eat sugar, sweet and a LOT of dairy. Skip meals every day. I just have my milk in cereal now, we just decided to try that way this time ttc. I believe that lower my ph big time.

Pomegranate i think i can find, but juice - is everything but not natural. I remmebered one store with fruits and veggies, i will check tomorow for pineapples, hope they have it. Papaya even harder to find :suprise: now i can find grapes, apples, pears, plums, pumpkins, lemon, oranges somewhere, avocados,grapefruit. Dry fruits also

I forgot, i had my pos opk today, cd 19, guess that green tea still have some influence, hope next cycle would be better (we are ttc next cycle, mid october)
Tons of ewcm, and i checked ph today it was little above 6.

Thank you for blue dust atomic!

[atomic sagebrush]

Don't stress about the pineapple/papaya - remember, I do not even think you have any issues at all with your lining! I promise I never ate those fruits when I had my boys!

Pomegranate juice is better than the fresh fruit anyway (opposite of the pineapple and papaya!)

CD19 is still in normal range, not bad at all! FXFXFX!! :)

[Twogirls0607]

According to my dr measures, today when def is o day, my lining im sure is just fine. You are absolutely right! I dont go anymore this cycle to ultrasound for follicles but i will maybe go next so we can be sure everything is ok. I will prob go to another dr, which have more experience. My papa test is great, blood is fine.

Earlier this evening me and husband checked his ph (we did that months ago-he changed diet a lil bit, put healthier stuff in his meals) and is about 9!

God i hope this will work.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, great pH for hubby. Sending you tons of blue dust!

[Twogirls0607]

I read article about bd-ing but i still have some questions. Sorry :)

We decided to bd every other day. If we bd 8-10-12-14-16 cd, and for example i have 17 day pos opk we still should do 3 attempts, or that is too much?

Do we have to use condoms that bd before opk?

[atomic sagebrush]

No that's not too much but you may want to stretch it by a day earlier on to be sure your husband has enough mojo to do the three attempts. So maybe more like CD 8, 11, then 14/16/17/18 kind of thing. But only if you are pretty sure you'll ovualte more like CD 17-18 and not around CD 14, because in that case you'd want more attempts prior to CD 14!

[Twogirls0607]

Well last few cycles it was around 18 19 and this cycle 21 cd my ovulation. That exactly is why im asking, for him to not waste all the good ones before my o day.

So if pos opk is on 19 day for example, we could bd 9-11-14-17-19night-20morning and night. That should be ok?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes!

[Twogirls0607]

8 days before my husband had a fever, or alergie-not sure, but hes felling better now, should we sway this cycle? I expect my ovulation in about 20days.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh I think it's fine to try this month! That was plenty of time to work itself out.

[Twogirls0607]

I have 2 pos opks! Because of some stress we made pause this cycle anyway, but just wanted to know if that happens again. Yesterday and today at same time i had very dark positive opk. When to bd?

Temp is a little bit lower ( i changed to digital ) than last few days , it was actualy 3 days of 36.4 C and today is 36.3 C.

[atomic sagebrush]

I want you to attempt the night of the FIRST positive OPK (not the darkest but the first), again the next morning if possible, then again that same night (so two times in one day if you can). Then the following night if possible. Then, every other day after that in case of delayed O.

[Twogirls0607]

Ok thank you atomic .

And before positive opk what should be the pattern? We cant figure out what way is the best way. I think we could abstain 2-3 days before pos opk. Is that ok? Im confused, we made 2 girls with 10+ days abstaining, and first one is when i had pos opk just one attempt that night. So if i take timing out of story could just abstaining be a reason for girls? Dh have a low drive so i hope that is not the reason..

Wanted everything differrent with this (final) baby.

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally like to see you guys having unprotected sex every 2-4 days when you aren't fertile. This is what most of us with all boys do, regular unprotected sex when not fertile, then when not trying, we use protection during our fertile window, and whne we are trying, we stop using protection. Some evidence indicates that regular exposure to the hormones in your hsuband's semen may help both make you more fertile and can also sway blue.

Abstaining is believed to sway pink and one attempt is also believed to sway pink so those two things combined could definitely have swayed pink for you.

You don't need to abstain 2-3 days but yes just overall your pattern should NOT be long periods of abstain OR long periods of back to back intercourse either. Just overall have sex every 2-4 days, and then hit it in the fertile window 3-5 times.

[Twogirls0607]

Hi its been a long time, still nothing with us. Every month its some new chalenge, flu, his job, wrong result of tests etc. Now im waiting af to start and we will try this cycle (i hope so)

I have some more questions

What do you think about these foods
Young beef
Smoked chicken
Smoked pork
Bacon
Goat milk
Milk chocolate every once in a while
Camomile tea
Lemon tea (i put half lemon and some sugar or honey)

Last two i dont use now but i usualy do in this time of the year.

If you remember my last posts, i still do what i did, takin vitamins, folic acid, fish oil every second day , my cycles were messed up and finaly changing to normal, about 30-32 days

[atomic sagebrush]

They are all fine for a boy. I would go easy on pork and bacon because pork does have higher amounts of Omega 6 fats. I would also go light on smoked meats as they ahve nitrates in them. Bacon also has very little protein and is pretty much a waste of calories for very few nutrients.

I would not have chamomile more than 2-3 days a week in case there is some medicinal effect.

Everything else is fine.

[Twogirls0607]

Thanks for fast answer!

Camomile i used to drink very often earlier, but its been almost a year how i dont drink it. When its so cold outside we like to get warm with this tea, like a tradition, my family loves it. I think i will give it just to my kids now :) at least for next few months.

I hope this thread is helpful for someone else too!

I eat bacon a few times a week, like 1-2 times and in a small amount with cream chesse and green leafy veg, in a tortilla, whole baked potato or something like that. In my last pregnancy i craved for bacon and i ate it like crazy!

[atomic sagebrush]

Small amounts of camomile and bacon are fine. We just don't want to have huge amounts every day!

[Twogirls0607]

Thanks, i will do as you say, just tea i will pass. Just in case :)

Based on my story of my past few cycles if you remember atomic, would you recommend me to use soy isoflavones? My cycles are pretty messed up over 6months already and i am really stressed about it. This one was late 5days, af came today. So i again cant be sure when my o day was.

If i take soy , should i be monnitored or not? I really want to have normal ovulation already, just like before, i hope that soy can help.

Is there anything else i could do, and not to ruin my blue sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

I have seen soy mess up people's cycles even MORE so I don't suggest it. I also have reason to believe that contrary to what they say on some sites, soy sways pink and I'd not recommend it.

5 days late for your period, while annoying, is not terrible. It's really quite minor and not unusual. You don't need to know when ovulation occurred, you just need to be having regular sex if possible and then whenever you think you're about to ovulate, start having MORE sex. And since your ovulation has been delayed, keep having sex even after you think you've ovulated. This isn't an insurmountable problem, just keep having sex. Remember, most people never knew when they ovualted (or even that they did! ovulation has only been discovered recently) and still people have boys without knowing when ovulation is. It's just not the case that we must know when O happens to conceive a boy. :)

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you atomic, you are very kind and your answers always calm me down. I see that this thread have so many views, im maybe boring, but i dont have anyone here to talk to about this. So thank you again for your patience.

Like other blue swayers i think i desperately want a little boy after two girls, so i just want to kinda have something to do different when i ttc them.

Of course i would love another girl too, but i want to do everything i can to have boy.

In stores here i have only one kind of soy and to be honest it doesnt seem good so i will skip that.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's my pleasure to help - I so want everyone to get their desired gender!

:bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

[Twogirls0607]

Hi its me again :) well my question is how you drink gelatin? I have in stores little packages of 10g and from that you can make 400-450ml of gelatin. How much should i eat/drink, and is my husband suppose to drink it?

Im reading about blood sugar. Mine is high, normal but its on higher side. How can i affect that and should i ?

[atomic sagebrush]

Put a little bit in a glass of juice and drink it down. Just a small spoonful is plenty. Here's a really good article on it! https://butternutrition.com/what-you-dont-know-about-gelatin-may-hurt-you-5-things-you-need-to-know/

It's fine to have somewhat high normal blood sugar when swaying blue. Too high BS levels can be unhealthy though, so please go easy on carbs, particularly white flour and sugar. You don't want to aggravate any underlying PCO tendencies.

[Twogirls0607]

So i dont have to wait, i mean to prepare it like it said on pack? I used to put a little bit water/juice and gelatin, wait for 10min it gets hard and then put that in juice and warm it up, then in a fridge to cool and eat it like that. This is wrong? If i understand right, just put some in juice, mix it and drink , dont have to wait anything?

Does my husband have to drink it?

I think im doing good on blood sugar

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh not that I've ever heard! That sounds really complicated. But I'll be honest - since so few people have ever done the gelatin, I confess I'm nowhere near as expert with it as I am about other topics.

If hubby is willing, it may help. If he isn't, I think it's more helpful to you than it is to him.

[Twogirls0607]

Really? We put it in many kinds of food, sweets and cakes mainly, its beef gelatin. I hope this is the same thing! I cant find it anywhere in big packages like i read, just these. Do you maybe want a picture of it? From pictures from sites that you sent me, it looks the same.

He said he can try :)

Im so sorry for my language, hope you can understand me, i understand everything, just my writing is not so good.

[atomic sagebrush]

Beef gelatin is fine and if you have ways to put it into lots of foods, that is great and it is supposed to help. It's just that very few blue swayers have done the gelatin juice so unlike most of our sway tactics where I've done tons of research and thinking about them, I really haven't done that with the gelatin because I have hardly ever gotten questions on it!

I understand you just fine! No worries at all! :)

[Twogirls0607]

Update from me:
We dtd
2days before pos opk. 3before o
On day we had pos opk (cd14) 1before o
Day after O day

I had positive opk about 4pm and we dtd about 8pm. We couldnt make it in morning se we did at 4pm day after positive opk.

I tested today and it was again very dark line (so its 2 days in a row)

Are we doing ok for boy sway? Do we need another attempt?

I used bsf because my ph was lower than i expected. I have sooo much ewcm.

About my diet : mich more calories than with girls, red meat, meat almost everyday ( beef, chicken, fish sometimes, pork) breakfast everyday, fruits and vegetables( mostly potato, carrot, all kinds of beans, there is much more but i do t know translation of it)
I ate cereals, which i never did in my life, eggs, full fat milk, milk cream in sandwich, toast.
I avoided soda based drinks, white flour, candies, sugar and chocolate- in last 4 months i ate about 50g of chocolate-which i have everyday when i conceive girls. (When i slowed down with sugar, my ph goes high, which is why i avoided it)
I drank alkaline water (8+) , lemon water, gellatin.
My prenatal, fish oil eod, folic acid about 3mg
My dh ate very rich calories foods, veggies, fruits, basicly we ate much healthier than before, he took zinc complex(15mg), folic acid and fish oil with vitamin e.
Moon was after new moon, i wear gold, using my phone and laptop is in same room.

Your honest opinion, how much chance do we have for boy if we catch eggy?

I edited my diet, hope you can understand all

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry I only just now saw this - I would have had you keep attempting at least one or two more days but whatever you did was the right thing.

I don't like BSF but that is always your choice.

I think everything is looking great! I can't tell anyone what their chances are, all we can do is look at the overall success rate of the site which is about 2/3 of those who sway, get boys. I think having that many attempts will help boost your chances and your diet looks wonderful to me. :agree: Good luck and blue dust!

[Twogirls0607]

Well we didnt had anymore attempts. Just those. If i count it all i was affraid of o+12 theory . my first attempt was 4 hours after positive opk. Second was 24hrs after first pos opk. That night i think i ovulated, so my last atempt was about 6-8 hours before ovulation. Thats why i decided not to bd anymore. Hope there was some boys waiting for egg.

Can there be a problem with two days in a row pos opks? Does that mean that i ovulated after first day or second?

One more thing, i was not measuring my bbt last 2 cycles. But wanted to see how it will be after those opks. Just have to say that i dont sleep that well i i cant take it on the same time every morning (thats why i stoped measuring, it sometimes all over the place i cant trust it), and changed my termometar.
Morning after pos opk was 36.1
That night i think was o (i had so so much ewcm that day- not from bsd watery, i was really strechy)
Next morning was 36.2
Than again 36.2
And today 36.5

Can i count this occurate? It doesnt show ovulation, its just slow rising. And similar to that were my last few cycles.

Thank you atomic so much for blue dust and your answers. Just wanted to say about diet, i was on the fence to order it but because we live in total different places on earth i dont think i could follow it right. So i tried to take calories and everything i could read here and adjust it to my region.

Now i see i wrote my attempts wrong in last post.

[atomic sagebrush]

No there's nothing wrong with two days of pos OPK at all. Totally normal. it doesn't tell you when you ovulated, though. OPK don't tell us about ovulation, they just tell us about the surge of hormone that triggers ovulation. So you can still have the hormone in your body and have already ovulated, or the hormone can come and go really quick and you won 't ovulate for several hours or even days afterwards. The two things are related but not directly correlated.

If you haven't been temping before and after we can't use it to pin down ovulation. We have to look at the patterns and not temps in isolation.

Yes it's fine to take the overall info about the diet and use it in your region. That is what I want you guys to do!! Perfect!! It's not about the foods, it's about getting more nutrients, keeping your blood sugar up, and getting a higher amount of protein and especially fat from animal and saturated fats rather than vegetable based Omega 6's.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you i was waiting for your answer. I still feel little unthankfull for using all info tho. You are very nice, helping so much! I hope i did good job adjusting diet, especialy about fat. I used to prepare everything on veg oil, margarine and i changed it to animal fats, including full fat milk. I tried to add so much different stuff in my meals.

Well i didnt check my blood sugar now but about 2-3months on my changed diet i checked it with other standard gin analysis and it was on higher side but it didnt was too high to go over line what normal is.

If you could answer me about my two attempts, could it be enough? Im affraid it was too early , if my ovulation was later. I read about timing and starting to really not belive in that, but i got that in my mind for so long its not easy to let it go. You had your boys from similar situation right (i mean from 2-3days before o)

I had much more big o than with my girls, hope that i can count that in boy favor..

Oh and yes, i always forgive to ask you in my posts about exercise. I didnt do any this time around. I was busy , tired enough with running for my kids and i decided not to exercise as i felt really tired and thought that it might sway girl, being exhausted. I am few kg overweight but i think i have very strong organism. Whole year i didnt have even a flu, alergie, nothing, i hope i did right thing. With my girls i was skinny, underweight and walking, exercising so i wanted to do different this time around.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's ok no one needs to check their blood sugar! YOu did great on the diet.

Yes 2 attempts can be enough. I got my boys with two attempts and with 2-3 day cutoff for 3 of them (the 4th boy was a bit of a surprise as I didn't know I was ovulating - def. had 2 attempts tho). Then I got my girl with one attempt early n the morning of O Day. We aim at 3 based on some of our results but the main thing is having more than one.

While I do like weights for blue I didn't do them when I got some of my boys. If you can't do it, you can't do it! Better than overexercising for sure.

[Twogirls0607]

That is great, i hope we did it with just two attempts!

Im 21cd now, just one more week so i can test. Days go by so slowly :)

I will update whatever happens.

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck and blue dust!

[Twogirls0607]

Small update- i think i had yesterday at 8dpo, implantation bleeding. It was just one wipe and very light pink mucus.. (Sorry if tmi) i hope this is a good sign!

Thank you atomic! Especialy for blue dust,i need it!

[atomic sagebrush]

AA exciting!! Good luck!

[Twogirls0607]

13dpo my test is negative.. I guess im out,now waiting for af to come.. Maybe next months i will do some stuff even better

Edit: cd15 also bfn, and my af is here.

[atomic sagebrush]

Aww, I'm sorry to hear that - but onto next month!! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you.. My af is almost gone, just a little spotting so i think my cycles are now fine with ov on cd15. I got a terrible flu, fever, dont know how to name it, and i think i will skip this one, i lost about 1kg, and totaly ruined diet, i was so sick.

Can affect sway if dh now drinks his suplements every other day? His libido is great now- not sure if supps have to do something with this, he cant even take zinc every day, he could just dtd every day but we try not to, every2-3 days.

I also want to try doing weights. Is it ok if i just do 30mins of weight exercise from yt, using 1,5 kg, 4times a week? That is 2 series of exercises, later i could try 45mins?hope you can understand my writing :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh I hope you're feeling btter now!

Do you think the libido was caused by the supplements? As a general rule I like you guys to take them daily. Fine to leave the zinc out.

Yes that's a great amount of exercise for you! Perfect!

[Twogirls0607]

Well i dont know what to think. We usualy dtd once a week, so when we started last cycle ttc, we dtd more often. Dont know if its vitamins but i wonder if there is possibility.

Yes i feel better now, but day before af came and til yesterday i was feeling so bad, i could barely eat. So this cycle we will skip def, dont want to do something wron and also it will be few weeks with weights already when we ttc in february.

Is there something more he should use? He is taking
Omega3
VitE
Folic acid
Zinc with vit c, selen, cyprium
He took gelatin with me

[atomic sagebrush]

So he is not taking a multivitamin at all but is taking Vit E and Zinc?? How many mg?

[Twogirls0607]

Thats right. We thought this is enough vit for him since he have very god diet, that man can eat everything!

He is taking comples with zinc, and that complex contains
Zinc 15mg
Vit c 300 mg
Selen 55micrograms
Cyprium 1mg

Beside that he takes
Omega3 1000mg
Vit e 9mg
Folic acid about 800micrograms

I write down in one of this pages my complex what contains, should be ok if he takes that, or this is enough?

I did read about l arganine and l carnitine but i cant find it

[atomic sagebrush]

I prefer he take a multivitamin BUT luckily none of those are very high doses. Often, the nutrients sold alone (instead of a vitamin blend) are really high doses. But he can simply continue with those just as they are.

I would like him taking Vit. D 1000 IU in addition to that.

I don't think arginine and carnitine are necessities. It's fine to leave them out, my husband never took them and we have 4 boys.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you ! I am for some reason very stressed about high doses of vitamins and when i buy it i always look what amount is recomended and alowed. Would it be better if he takes multivitamin, or if he just continue this way plus vit d? What option you think is better? Maybe he will switch to my multivitamin, it will be even easier for us.

In my country its very rare that someone takes vitamins this long before pregnancy, and usualy girls take some folic acid, a lot not even that. I didnt. Thats why i hope it will work this time. Only people with fertility isues, they take doctors recomended amount of drugs and vitamins.

You are very helpful atomic, thank you so much.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am also very stressed about that and I HATE the high doses. You done good! :agree:

My sole concern with the vitamins taken independently was just to be sure they weren't high doses. Since his aren't, he's fine to continue as they are, but yes do add in the Vit D!

That is interesting about the vitamins - I added that to my notes! Several of my blue swayers have told me that same thing - they are from countries where people rarely take vitamins (France and the Balkan nations, in particulr). I don't think vitamins are a magic bullet but I do think they really help!

[Twogirls0607]

Dont know what happened to my post.

Anyway, i wrote that here gender dreaming is like a taboo, and so are fertility drugs, especialy in small towns where everybody knows everybody, its hard. And if someone even saids he knows something especialy for boy sway, its completely nonscence and its wrong.

We have some isues with house and probably have to move so if it goes the way we want, we will pause ttc for 3-4 cycles. Wil continue boy food but in smaller amounts, and 6 week- to month prior we will try to do our best. I will update what is going on .

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok that sounds good! Let me know when you're ready to get going again!

I know in many countries it is really forbidden to discuss these feelings! Just know that you are not alone, many of us all around the world completely understand!! I wanted a boy sooo badly with my first, I was just lucky enough to get him and I have been blessed to have him for 27 years (it's so hard to believe!) I'll do what I can to help you get a boy.

[Bbabyfever]

Great thread. Learnt a lot!
I'm also from Europe, 2 girls, and will start boy sway in the upcoming weeks. Im now trying to take everything in and this info really helped.

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[Twogirls0607]

Its not like its forbidden, its like if i would talk about it people would think im crazy. I am member of forums from my country and people dont even want to discuss this. Like its not etical (sorry for spelling). But also we think about it and my sister in law for example desperately wanted a baby girl, but got a boy and they just dont accept possibility of swaying. I can talk about this with my husband only, and he is very supporting and he is willing to do whatever. :)

Bbabyfever that is great, i was hoping that someone can find this thread helpful. What do you do for your sway?

Atomic you helped me a lot. I read a lot of forums and articles but here are the most informative and most logic stuff. The more i read here it makes more scense.

[Bbabyfever]

Well at this point Im just in the research phase, just taking notes.
However, I may conclude that Im very girl friendly in diet and BD.
Since it'll be our last child, I'm very stressed for a "fail". I'm thinking about IVF option too, however husband is fine with a 3rd girl as well.

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