Opk question

[Mom25boys]

From my past few cycles I noticed that I only get a positive OPK on the day I ovulate. I get a second line- not strong enough in the am. Then about 1 PM I'll get a strong positive and then within 2-3 hours i will get excruciating ovarian pain. Next morning temps confirm ovulation. Then I have 15 day luteal phase. Usually on cycle day 16 AF will start about the time i got the O pain. This time it was strangely exact.

Because I BD on the day of the positive, for example this past time, after the pain. Is there anything I should change. I know the pain doesn't necessarily mean I O, but if it does, I would be BD hours later. 3:00 pain. BD late night at 11, for example.

What do you think?

Thanks :)

I have concieved all 5 boys easily on first try. But all with several attempts in the fertile week. 2-4 times spaced out.


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[strawberrybella89]

This happens to me too! I'm trying to time out my attempt and a medium darker opk so i dont miss ovulation

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[atomic sagebrush]

Getting a pos OPK at 1 pm is totally normal (even after a neg test in the morning)

15 day LP is really not at all common and hardly ever happens regularly.

It is likely you are ovulating a day later than you think you are and having a 14 day LP.

"O Pain" has been studied and found to really not be predictive of when someone ovulates. I know it's tough to believe when it happens in such a regular pattern but given the timing of the OPK + the 15 day "LP" (which is probably not 15 days) I suspect you are Oing the day after the positive OPK. But even if you weren't Oing that day, BD on ovulation day is still good chances of conception. If we pretend that the pain is really O, it happens 3 hours after your pos OPK, and thus if the pain was O, the egg would live for several hours after that anyway. I do not think it's at all necessary, but if you wanted to try to have attempt sooner, that would be ok.

[Mom25boys]

Ok. I will keep it at one attempt. That makes sense. I just want you to see my past two times. I don't put in my ovulation. I just put in my positives and temps. So this is what I have. Maybe you can make some sense out of it https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/89300244289b1ac223ae469433a0d4a6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/bfe9e16061cf36348fbd1c25a08337ea.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/5626c4c1da6ef9116ad1e0324f013e18.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Mom25 - you have been at this for a while, though. do you want to start thinking about changing it up from one attempt?? That is totally fine to do if you want! We can go to e4d now and that way no matter what you'd be covered (and introducing the element of chance into the mix may help us get BFP sooner. Sometimes we outwit ourselves with what we imagine is an ideally timed attempt but it very well may be an attempt earlier or later may be better.

[atomic sagebrush]

Look on the first chart, the graph looking one (unfortunately the other ones are not very useful to me). See how the temp on CD 20 is really not nearly as high as the later temps? It very well may be that you hadn't ovulated yet. I often see people have that temp dip, and then a kind of inbetweeny temp, and then on the next day, a big rise. This can often trick the algorithm FF uses into giving crosshairs the wrong day.

I would suggest possibly starting your temping sooner. As O approaches your temps will generally be lower so small rises can trick the algorithm. Your temps earlier in the cycle may be a bit higher and thus your crosshairs can then end up on the right day (since that inbetweeny temp won't appear so high in comparison to the naturally lower temps right before O) HOpe that makes sense! I just think you're not giving the program the full picture only temping right before O when your temps will be lower than the average follicular phase temp.

[Mom25boys]

Ah, ok. I get it. The ones from before are all over the place so I thought to skip them until closer. I'll start temping now. Maybe I'll do e4d also. I need to look into it to understand. Thanks so much.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Nope we need those ones even when they're a little see-saw-y. Because right before O, they will be much lower because that's when you make the most estrogen, but to accurately pin down the crosshairs we need to know more than just those low temps, we need sort of more of a snapshot of your follicular phase temps. It's fine to skip temping on your period but after that do start temping.

[Mom25boys]

This is with early temps but not afterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180914/045220d776f022b78b614e46d3999035.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yep see how the crosshairs are later? It's a dotty line because you hadn't had the 3 post O temps yet but all your temps after that were higher.

Also more likely with the OPK timing