Help with FF chart

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi. I am wondering if someone can help me with my FF chart. Link is below. This is the scenerio:

1) I usually show O on FF 2 days after a positive digital OPK. (This month positive was CD 12 so this morning CD 15 I was expecting a dip in temp). I did not get a dip I actually got a rise. So I am wondering if I actually O'd on CD 12. I guess its possible to have much shorter surge this month.

2) My Ovacue Vag wand did say I O'd CD12 but I actually thought it wasn't correct.

I know I can wait a few days with more temping till it confirms/shows O, I just want to figure it out now in case I need to DTD again for conception to even have a chance.

I'm also a little thrown off because positive digital came earlier in my cycle its been either CD 14 or CD 15 with O two days later in both cases.

[HopeandDreamG]

Its been 2 more days and FF hasn't shown O. Can anyone help? Was it CD 12 and it will show up with a little more temping. I'm not going to have anymore attempts I'm keeping it at the one on CD12 bc even if it shows O on CD 15, I'm still good. Thoughts????

[rainbowflower]

it could have been CD12 - it's the "low" temp on CD15 that is likely confusing it. You haven't had 3 sustained high temps yet so that's why FF hasn't given you crosshairs, but they do seem to be higher on average than the pre-OV temps so I think you have OVed.

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks rainbowflower. That makes sense that the lower temp on CD15 is confusing it...which was then confusing me!! Thanks for looking! Of course, this was my first attempt, and everything was different then all the other months I charted... Positive OPK much earler, then a much shorter time between postive OPK and O then any other month! Go figure, first attempt and everythings different! Maybe a good thing for ttc girl? Maybe I really changed things up?

[rainbowflower]

it's always the way that things change when you start TTC! I have known quite a few women (not swaying) who had very regular cycles and the first cycle starting TTC they OV late or whatever!

[atomic sagebrush]

I am still in the "not sure you Oed camp" because two of those temps were the same as your pre-potential-O temps and you don't usually O that early...I think that's partly why FF has not given you crosshairs yet. (see my post on your other thread.)

I wish we had an ultrasound to know for sure but I think we just can't know yet either way.

[HopeandDreamG]

Atomic~ hope this isn't totally annoying- I know I will know in a few days, I'm just wondering if I even have a shot at conception this month. Do you think O was CD 15? Please look at chart again... If I did O on CD 15 I have a chance for DTD on CD 12 right?

[rainbowflower]

I still think OV might have been CD12 for you - CD15 is just a long time after your pos OPK, so I'd be surprised if OV was that late
the low on CD15 could just have been a "fallback rise" (search in FF for other charts with this)

when did you have fertile CM?

[HopeandDreamG]

I will search fallback rise. CM was so hard to tell because of rephresh, and on CD 13 I had tons of what I thought was EWCM but I think it was semen and rephresh. On CD 13 my cervix was so high I couldn't reach, then on CD 15 (10:30 pm) I felt it was open and that was the first time I ever felt that. I guess I missed it in other cycles. It felt like a small opening/hole.
Ovacue vag wand confirmed O on CD12. Do you think either way with DTD CD12 I have a chance of conception?

[rainbowflower]

of course, you always have a chance of conception if you DTD in the fertile window... 3 days before OV wouldn't be as high as DTD on OV day, though.
Here are a few fallback rise charts on FF:
Fertility Charts Gallery - FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ChartGallery/138054.html)
Fertility Charts Gallery - FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ChartGallery/138018.html)

[HopeandDreamG]

Rainbowflower and Atomic~ Check out the chart. I finally got my crosshairs. I'm still a little surprised. Could it be wrong? (I ask despite feeling like that makes me look like a maniac). I guess this cycle could just be that different then the others??

And can you please confirm that timing doesn't matter, because it looks like I DTD day of O!

[rainbowflower]

it could be wrong, but that is exactly where I'd have put them too

timing definitely doesn't matter. some recent studies showed that more girls were conceived on OV day... if it did sway then every study would find exactly the same thing and because they vary so drastically timing probably doesn't sway at all

[HopeandDreamG]

Good to hear.. Do you have link to that study? If it wasn't there it would be CD 15 right? I'm no expert, but from the charting I've been doing I was thinking thats where it was going to be-just didn't have confidence in my interpretations when it came to being an attempt month!

[Out of the Blue]

I'm not Rainbow or Atomic but I thought I'd give you my :twocents: as well...I think FF is right in this case and you did O on Fri. I say, timing-schmiming!!! I think you are just fine! Congrats, girl! Hope you get a swift BFP from this!

[HopeandDreamG]

I'm not Rainbow or Atomic but I thought I'd give you my :twocents: as well...I think FF is right in this case and you did O on Fri. I say, timing-schmiming!!! I think you are just fine! Congrats, girl! Hope you get a swift BFP from this!

LOL!!! Thanks :) :)!!!

[rainbowflower]

Good to hear.. Do you have link to that study? If it wasn't there it would be CD 15 right? I'm no expert, but from the charting I've been doing I was thinking thats where it was going to be-just didn't have confidence in my interpretations when it came to being an attempt month!

there are many, but this is a good one: Timing study (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199512073332301)
in particular have a look at figure 4

the more charts you see, you sort of get better at interpreting them! although everyone can have a bizarre/confusing one now and again ;)

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks... And YAY!!! Figure 4- more girls where conceived O day!!! (i believed you just cool to see) And 2 days before more boys were conceived!!!

:) :) :) :) A little less then a week to test....I want PINK!!!