Boy sway attempt help

[Bluedust]

Just after some advice in regards to my boy sway plan (wont be ttc untill Jan but want to start now).
Im curently taking: centrum 1 a day, fish oil 1 every second day, probiotics 1 a day, folate.
Husband: doesnt know im swaying :) but taked swiss men 1 a day and i just started him on probiotics, anything else he should be taking?

When i concieved both my daughters i would never have breakfast could go all day with a few cups of coffee and then just dinner hardly had any snack was always under weight people use to ask me if im unwell. My daughters are now 10 and 8 and last 2 years i have gained weight started walking eat much more healthy.

So curently my 1 day eating would look like:
Breakfast around 7.45am before i leave for work bowl of cereal/oats with some sunflower seeds and full cream milk.
Snack: fruit together with a biscuit or plain yoghurt with some blueberries/ strawberries
Lunch: usually a salad sandwich in brown bread (i think i need to add protein to lunch dont i?) And then also another fruit or vegetable
Snack: i usually have another fruit or biscuits with cheese
Next snack when i get home from work: coconut water and usually another piece of cheese
Dinner: 1 of the following: meat with veggies and rice or chicken with veggies and potatoes or lasagne or pasta with mince meat or with chicken
Snack: black tea with nuts or chips or chocolate (dark)

In adition: i eat about 3 eggs per week, i am into peanut butter, and lots of cheese the past few weeks. I have 1 or 2 avacadoes per week.

I have cut back my coffee from 2 a day to 1 and then will also stop that too.
I drink 2L of water with lemon slices.

I also staerted doing weights workout focussing on my arms 15mind 3 x a week.
I also recently purchased a bike and do bike 2 times a week about 20 to 30mins.

My huaband runs maybe 2 times a week (this upsets me for my boy sway) is it okay if he only stops running the month we ttc??


Ive never used an OPK to track ovulation and will use one this cycle just to see if i can figure out how they work.

During attempt month im a bit confused about the best practise for attempts. Is it 3 attempts at ovulation peak or more attempts before im a bit confused.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

[Bluedust]

Bump

Im just trying to gather as much info far in advance so i cant start buying what i need slowly and not have to buy at once.

After reading further and looking throught the boy results i think i also want to start taling COQ10, do i get husband to start taking this too? and take roobitussin my understanding this is to be taken during the week of attempts not in advance?

Sorry for all the questions

[atomic sagebrush]

Hubby can take carnitine and arginine if you want to give it to him, in addition to the coq10.

yes i'd like to see some protein with lunch!! Definitely. But otherwise looking great.

RE hubby running, the studies found the more men ran, the pinker it was. 2x a week is not a dealbreaker, but if you can get him to give it up even better. Even if just the month of attempt, although I do think that stopping 3 months in advance is best.

How many attempts you have is up to you - some people want to do timing and they don't have earlier attempts. They only have attempts during the fertile window Personally, based on our experiences and also what the science indicates, I like you guys to be having unprotected sex every 2-4 days during the early part of the cycle and then have the attempts in the fertile window. It's up to you what you think will be best for you.

:agree: yes robitussin (just guaifenesin, not the kind with other ingredients) is fine to take starting 5-7 days before O and going through the day of O or even 3 days later. (we honestly don't know what is best.) NO need to take this in advance of the month you plan to try.

[Bluedust]

Thank you,
Just in regards to husbands supplements

Centrum mens 50+
Fish oil 1 every second day
Vitamin d daily
Coq10
And ill try to see if i can add 1 more of the ones you just mentioned

Does this sound okay?

Also, im reading that coconut oil is good but im confused how to consume it? Do i melt 1 spoon with water and drink it?

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: perfect!

the carnitine is likely better than the arginine if you have to pick one. And probiotic may help too.

You can use coconut oil for cooking or even just eat it off a spoon (if you keep it cold in the fridge, it's actually not terrible this way.) Or you can stir it in anything like peanut butter or melt in a soup or casserole.

[Bluedust]

Thank you again,

With hubby's carnitine does he take this 3 month in advance or just the month we ttc?

[Bluedust]

Also another question, i read that you mention having unprotected sex in the months before ttc helps a bit for a boy sway. But we dont want to fall pregnant at the moment at all so dont want to risk it. Does having regular sex but using condom have any affect as well or is it just the semen that actuall helps? So my question is, is it pointless to have protected sex in the months before ttc or does is still help a bit?

[MiaMelb]

Also another question, i read that you mention having unprotected sex in the months before ttc helps a bit for a boy sway. But we dont want to fall pregnant at the moment at all so dont want to risk it. Does having regular sex but using condom have any affect as well or is it just the semen that actuall helps? So my question is, is it pointless to have protected sex in the months before ttc or does is still help a bit?

The regular protected BD will help with sperm quality and can perhaps to used to practice the many attempts in fertile window BD pattern if this is out of the usual for DH but you will loose the benefit of regular exposure to sperm which sways blue. I definitely get the double edged sword aspect of this concept though.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you again,

With hubby's carnitine does he take this 3 month in advance or just the month we ttc?

Just as far in advance as he can. If it isn't a full 3 months that's no biggie, but if poss do start before the month you plan to TTC since sperm take about 2 months to form

[atomic sagebrush]

Also another question, i read that you mention having unprotected sex in the months before ttc helps a bit for a boy sway. But we dont want to fall pregnant at the moment at all so dont want to risk it. Does having regular sex but using condom have any affect as well or is it just the semen that actuall helps? So my question is, is it pointless to have protected sex in the months before ttc or does is still help a bit?

We honestly don't know how it all works but it appears to be exposure to the semen itself.

Is it possible for you guys to have protected sex during the fertile window and unprotected sex out of the fertile window?? That is what many of us with all boys do.

[Bluedust]

Okay thanks it all makes sense now, i think December we'l start tk ditch the condom because if i fall pregnant somehow it wont matter much, so it would be 2 months before we ttc.

[Bluedust]

Im also thinking of mixing 1 spoon of brewers yeast to my v8 drink once a day, is that still recomended?

In terms of weight gain whilst on the HE diet how much is too much?
Currently im 168cm tall and 67kg aged 32.
When i had both my daughers i was between 50kg to 54kg the most. I was 21years old and then 23years old (not sure if this info helps).
I just want to know how much is the limit amd when does the weight gain negatively effect a blue sway?

Thanks heaps

[Bluedust]

In regards to Guaifenesin, ive been looking and i cant find robitussin in Australia with only guaifenesin ingredient. The best i could find is called robitussin chesty coughe forte ingredients: guaiphenesin 200mg and bromhexine hydrochloride 8mg. Is this one okay??

[LMSM]

Ideally you’d have only guaifenesin as active ingredient....
IHerb is my go to as has things that aren’t readily available in Oz ( no, I’m not affiliated lol)
From a quick search, found these two... I think I had the liquid one, as was over tablets when I was swaying, but it was an alcohol/sugar free one though ;)
Hope you f8nd a good one :)
40582

Ps: I am exactly the same size as you (50/54kgs when conceived all three girls, for 1.68m. Now more like 62 as haven’t lost all pregnancy weight from dd3 ..oops).... I think your curren5 weight is within normal range for your height but remember to not seek weight gain per se ( you’re already heavier than when you conceived dd1&2) , but getting a good solid nutrient rich diet :) that’s paramount ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Im also thinking of mixing 1 spoon of brewers yeast to my v8 drink once a day, is that still recomended?

In terms of weight gain whilst on the HE diet how much is too much?
Currently im 168cm tall and 67kg aged 32.
When i had both my daughers i was between 50kg to 54kg the most. I was 21years old and then 23years old (not sure if this info helps).
I just want to know how much is the limit amd when does the weight gain negatively effect a blue sway?

Thanks heaps

Yes the brewer's yeast is good if you can manage it (it can be pretty gross tasting!)

I would try to hold steady where you're at, I would not have you gain more than 5 lbs.

Yes the chesty cough one is fine. The other ingredient in that is very similar to the guaifenesin. :)

[Bluedust]

Thanks for all the detailed info, appreciated. Maybe the current weight gain will help with the boy sway lol lets hope so.

[Bluedust]

Yes the brewer's yeast is good if you can manage it (it can be pretty gross tasting!)

I would try to hold steady where you're at, I would not have you gain more than 5 lbs.

Yes the chesty cough one is fine. The other ingredient in that is very similar to the guaifenesin. :)

Thanks atomic for the info. Im currently waiting for my folate order to arrive from iherb, hopefully this week.

[Bluedust]

Ideally you’d have only guaifenesin as active ingredient....
IHerb is my go to as has things that aren’t readily available in Oz ( no, I’m not affiliated lol)
From a quick search, found these two... I think I had the liquid one, as was over tablets when I was swaying, but it was an alcohol/sugar free one though ;)
Hope you f8nd a good one :)
40582

Ps: I am exactly the same size as you (50/54kgs when conceived all three girls, for 1.68m. Now more like 62 as haven’t lost all pregnancy weight from dd3 ..oops).... I think your curren5 weight is within normal range for your height but remember to not seek weight gain per se ( you’re already heavier than when you conceived dd1&2) , but getting a good solid nutrient rich diet :) that’s paramount ;)


Thanks for taking the time to provide detailed response, much appreciated. Fingers crossed all the xtra weight this time will work in favour of a boy :)

[Aus]

Ideally you’d have only guaifenesin as active ingredient....
IHerb is my go to as has things that aren’t readily available in Oz ( no, I’m not affiliated lol)
From a quick search, found these two... I think I had the liquid one, as was over tablets when I was swaying, but it was an alcohol/sugar free one though ;)
Hope you f8nd a good one :)
40582

Ps: I am exactly the same size as you (50/54kgs when conceived all three girls, for 1.68m. Now more like 62 as haven’t lost all pregnancy weight from dd3 ..oops).... I think your curren5 weight is within normal range for your height but remember to not seek weight gain per se ( you’re already heavier than when you conceived dd1&2) , but getting a good solid nutrient rich diet :) that’s paramount ;)

Be carful with that Air power guaifenesin. I purchased that one and it didn’t realise on the back that it has inactive ingredients listed. When I showed it to Atomic she didn’t like all the herbs etc. added and told me not that one. I am taking Robutussin instead. If you are in Australia the only place you can get the Red chesty robutussin with only guaifenesin in it is from Woolworths.


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[LMSM]

Thanks Aus, good to know ;)
I didn’t buy the air power one myself, just did a quick search on the website but will make sure I don’t buy it once am back swaying :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Be carful with that Air power guaifenesin. I purchased that one and it didn’t realise on the back that it has inactive ingredients listed. When I showed it to Atomic she didn’t like all the herbs etc. added and told me not that one. I am taking Robutussin instead. If you are in Australia the only place you can get the Red chesty robutussin with only guaifenesin in it is from Woolworths.


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Oh Aus was that the one you took??? Oh gosh thank you SO MUCH, great catch! :superhero:

[Aus]

Oh Aus was that the one you took??? Oh gosh thank you SO MUCH, great catch! :superhero:

Yes that was the one. No problems! Glad I could help!


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[Bluedust]

I purchased brewers yeast today, i added 1 spoon into my v8 juice and drank it. Just wondering how much is a recommended amount to help with blue sway?

Thanks in advance

[Bluedust]

Just after some advice in regards to my boy sway plan (wont be ttc untill Jan but want to start now).
Im curently taking: centrum 1 a day, fish oil 1 every second day, probiotics 1 a day, folate.
Husband: doesnt know im swaying :) but taked swiss men 1 a day and i just started him on probiotics, anything else he should be taking?

When i concieved both my daughters i would never have breakfast could go all day with a few cups of coffee and then just dinner hardly had any snack was always under weight people use to ask me if im unwell. My daughters are now 10 and 8 and last 2 years i have gained weight started walking eat much more healthy.

So curently my 1 day eating would look like:
Breakfast around 7.45am before i leave for work bowl of cereal/oats with some sunflower seeds and full cream milk.
Snack: fruit together with a biscuit or plain yoghurt with some blueberries/ strawberries
Lunch: usually a salad sandwich in brown bread (i think i need to add protein to lunch dont i?) And then also another fruit or vegetable
Snack: i usually have another fruit or biscuits with cheese
Next snack when i get home from work: coconut water and usually another piece of cheese
Dinner: 1 of the following: meat with veggies and rice or chicken with veggies and potatoes or lasagne or pasta with mince meat or with chicken
Snack: black tea with nuts or chips or chocolate (dark)

In adition: i eat about 3 eggs per week, i am into peanut butter, and lots of cheese the past few weeks. I have 1 or 2 avacadoes per week.

I have cut back my coffee from 2 a day to 1 and then will also stop that too.
I drink 2L of water with lemon slices.

I also staerted doing weights workout focussing on my arms 15mind 3 x a week.
I also recently purchased a bike and do bike 2 times a week about 20 to 30mins.

My huaband runs maybe 2 times a week (this upsets me for my boy sway) is it okay if he only stops running the month we ttc??


Ive never used an OPK to track ovulation and will use one this cycle just to see if i can figure out how they work.

During attempt month im a bit confused about the best practise for attempts. Is it 3 attempts at ovulation peak or more attempts before im a bit confused.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Sorry for all the questions... if i was to alternate between tuna, boiled egg, chicken, or lamb chops for my lunch (as im missing protein there) is that good? I feel like im doing well with everything else but just want to make sure these are okay for protein at lunch time?

[3littleladies01]

I purchased brewers yeast today, i added 1 spoon into my v8 juice and drank it. Just wondering how much is a recommended amount to help with blue sway?

Thanks in advance

Hi atomic
I’m doing the same as bluedust - bought BY and put it in my V8 - quick question - are we ok to do this daily? I drink V8 daily at lunch but wasn’t sure if I put the BY in everyday or not? Don’t want to overdo it if it’s not good too?

Sorry to jump in bluedust (but hoping it may help you too)

Thanks x


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[atomic sagebrush]

I purchased brewers yeast today, i added 1 spoon into my v8 juice and drank it. Just wondering how much is a recommended amount to help with blue sway?

Thanks in advance

I would stick to that much each day OR have maybe twice that much 2-3 days a week.

Going too heavy on things that contain a lot of B Vitamins can disrupt ovulation so I'd like to keep it at that level.

[atomic sagebrush]

I purchased brewers yeast today, i added 1 spoon into my v8 juice and drank it. Just wondering how much is a recommended amount to help with blue sway?

Thanks in advance

I would stick to that much each day OR have maybe twice that much 2-3 days a week.

Going too heavy on things that contain a lot of B Vitamins can disrupt ovulation so I'd like to keep it at that level.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi atomic
I’m doing the same as bluedust - bought BY and put it in my V8 - quick question - are we ok to do this daily? I drink V8 daily at lunch but wasn’t sure if I put the BY in everyday or not? Don’t want to overdo it if it’s not good too?

Sorry to jump in bluedust (but hoping it may help you too)

Thanks x


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I prefer to keep it in amounts that seem reasonable since it can a)upset tummies and b) the B Vitamin factor. i don't know htat more is bad or worse, this is just my gut instinct.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry for all the questions... if i was to alternate between tuna, boiled egg, chicken, or lamb chops for my lunch (as im missing protein there) is that good? I feel like im doing well with everything else but just want to make sure these are okay for protein at lunch time?

Yes those are all great!! Do keep tuna to 2x a week to limit mercury exposure.

[Bluedust]

Hi atomic
I’m doing the same as bluedust - bought BY and put it in my V8 - quick question - are we ok to do this daily? I drink V8 daily at lunch but wasn’t sure if I put the BY in everyday or not? Don’t want to overdo it if it’s not good too?

Sorry to jump in bluedust (but hoping it may help you too)

Thanks x


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Hi 3littleladies01,
Please feel free to ask :) how do you feel about your sway? When will you start ttc?

[Bluedust]

Hi Atomic,
December will be our first month for ttc so this is my last period/cycle before we actually start to try. Ive been using ovulation kits and have been getting a positive on cd14 for the past 2 months (havent tracked before that, but my period is always regular either 27, 28 or 29 day cycle). I want to use this cycle as a practise so my question is when and how often should our attempts be for blue? Ive been reading but a bit confused as sone are doing eod or o-3 etc.. whats your recommendation (i dont believe in shettles timing or anything)?
Edit to add: past month we have been doing it either every second day or 3rd day to help with sperm.

[atomic sagebrush]

If your husband can keep up with it I would have you guys doing unprotected sex every other day up to every 2-3 days throughout the cycle. Then in addition to that (just keep going with the pattern however it falls, if you can) have 3-5 attempts at or around the positive OPK - just before if at all possible, just after is most likely.

I usually have people BD the night of pos OPK, again the next morning, and then again the following night BUT that's only because so many people want timing and/or their husband can't BD very much without running out of steam and not being able to perform any more. If you're having those regular attempts, the morning of O Day BD is really not at all necessary, just skip that one. Be sure to get at least one in the night of pos OPK and then hopefully 2-4 more just before and just after that. (O-3 is less ideal simply because it's less likely odds of conception, it does NOT sway pink though, but O-2, O-1, and O Day are all great times to have intercourse for a boy!)

[Bluedust]

If your husband can keep up with it I would have you guys doing unprotected sex every other day up to every 2-3 days throughout the cycle. Then in addition to that (just keep going with the pattern however it falls, if you can) have 3-5 attempts at or around the positive OPK - just before if at all possible, just after is most likely.

I usually have people BD the night of pos OPK, again the next morning, and then again the following night BUT that's only because so many people want timing and/or their husband can't BD very much without running out of steam and not being able to perform any more. If you're having those regular attempts, the morning of O Day BD is really not at all necessary, just skip that one. Be sure to get at least one in the night of pos OPK and then hopefully 2-4 more just before and just after that. (O-3 is less ideal simply because it's less likely odds of conception, it does NOT sway pink though, but O-2, O-1, and O Day are all great times to have intercourse for a boy!)

Okay thanks for the detailed response as always. I think at the moment my husband can go everyday if i let him.. i dont know if its all the supplements hes taking or what lol so we'l try the every other day method practice this month and hopefully the real deal next month. Im getting so nervous now that its so close.. im worried if we get another girl :(

[atomic sagebrush]

I know it's so scary to make the leap - all you can do is your best and then turn it over to a higher power or luck and rest easy knowing you did what you could. :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

[Bluedust]

Okay so I was saying November will be our practice month however my husband wanta to ttc this month (he told me today!!) As he will be drinking in December for work xmas dinners/lunch etc. So today is cd10 i started taking guaifenesin thia morning.. other then continuing HE diet and supps is there anything extra i should add or avoid this week?? Every day Im drinking 1 glass v8, 1 glass coconut, 1 glass orange juice, and also squeesing half lemon into my water too.

Bd: tomorrow cd11, cd13, and then i usually ovulate either cd14 or 15 so will see how many attempts we get in then as well. Im thinking of doing the 3 attempts once i get a positive opk.
Does this all sound good for boy? I also purchased the preseed to use all week too anything else?

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh ok great!!

No I think you guys are right on target! Keep up the good work and yes if at all possible get in the 3 attempts, but if that's too stressful, since you've had earlier attempts it's less imperative for you to sneak in that morning attempt. 2 around pos OPK will be enough if you get in that CD 13 attempt. I'd def. try for 13, 14, 15 if you normlly O CD 14 or 15.

[boyswayhere]

This might sound rather odd but my sister and I both had girls and both DTD whilst near a beach. Both my partner and her partner’s family are majority boys. Could flight journeys or being next to a beach sway girl in any way? My friends (7 of them) all had boys in the same year, they live in London. I just find it rather strange.

[Bluedust]

So we BD last night which was cd 11, ill skip tonight and keep going every day after that and have 2 attempts day of positive opk. Fingers crossed.

[atomic sagebrush]

I doubt things like flying on planes and being near the beach sway. If they did sway in any strong way, we'd see stewardesses and people who live in Honolulu having tons of girls and it just doesn't happen.

There do tend to be runs on gender sometimes but at the same time your friends were having boys, the folks in the next house over were having girls. While many times friends do share common diets and lifestyles, the most common explanation is just sheer luck, every once in a while it happens. I had a group of 7 ladies I worked with who all had boys but the catch was, some of them had had their boys in other years and other work places...it was just sheer luck we all happened to be working in the same place at the same time and all had boys! We just realized it when we were comparing notes, that some of them had sons already and then one girl got pregnant, and it was a boy, then the next year two more of us did, and we both had boys too. It was just random chance.

[Bluedust]

Okay so i was planning to skip bd tonight but I just got my flashing smiley on the clearblue opk.. so i have decided to bd tonight. My question is if we bd everyday for the next 5 days (adding a second attempt day of solid smiley) does this sway blue? Ive read your other responses and essays but im confused about the too many attempts swaying pink part. So if we were to bd every day will that be good for blue or will it lower sperm count?

[ObsidianBlossom]

I’m sorry if too much information but exposure to semen.... does that mean any sort of contact with it or coming inside? I’m swaying pink so not sure why I’m reading - just to make sure I do opposite of what’s on this thread lol x


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[Bluedust]

Update!
I think we can skip my previous question because i just got a solid smiley of clearblue opk ( Wednesday).. its 1-2 days earlier then expected so im glad we have been bding past few days. So my attempts look like this:
Sunday morning O-3, monday night O-2, Tuesday night O-1, we will bd tonight Wednesday O day (solid smiley), tomorrow night Thursday O-1 and then continue every other day? Or should we also do the Friday incase of late ovilation? Please tell me this is all good for blue??

[atomic sagebrush]

Okay so i was planning to skip bd tonight but I just got my flashing smiley on the clearblue opk.. so i have decided to bd tonight. My question is if we bd everyday for the next 5 days (adding a second attempt day of solid smiley) does this sway blue? Ive read your other responses and essays but im confused about the too many attempts swaying pink part. So if we were to bd every day will that be good for blue or will it lower sperm count?

The problem is that we don't always ovulate when the Clearblue thinks that we should. So if you start your daily BD on the flashy smileys, sometimes people have those for several days before it goes to peak. In the chance that this happened, that could put you in with many releases for your husband and some of them would be out of the fertile window, which may be more pink friendly. But worse (and this happens quite a lot) if he starts too soon, many husbands run out of steam and then cannot BD any more. This can end up to be not only many releases back to back, but also one attempt in the fertile window if he's only able to ejaculate once in the fertile window and then can't get an erection or release for his later attempts. So I like you guys to do every other day when it is flashy, and go to every day at solid (even more than one time day when solid if possible)

[atomic sagebrush]

Update!
I think we can skip my previous question because i just got a solid smiley of clearblue opk ( Wednesday).. its 1-2 days earlier then expected so im glad we have been bding past few days. So my attempts look like this:
Sunday morning O-3, monday night O-2, Tuesday night O-1, we will bd tonight Wednesday O day (solid smiley), tomorrow night Thursday O-1 and then continue every other day? Or should we also do the Friday incase of late ovilation? Please tell me this is all good for blue??

Yes this is all perfect! FX that hubby can keep up the pace!

If he can do Friday then yes let's do that, otherwise it will likely be ok if it doesn't work out.

[atomic sagebrush]

I’m sorry if too much information but exposure to semen.... does that mean any sort of contact with it or coming inside? I’m swaying pink so not sure why I’m reading - just to make sure I do opposite of what’s on this thread lol x


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We don't know. We assume it's internal only but we don't have the data to know for sure.

[Bluedust]

Okay so we have bding every day since Sunday morning, last time was Thursday as I had a migraine yesterday... so that makes 5 attempts before and 1 day after ovulation (according to OPK). Let the 2ww begin please send me heaps of boue dust :)

Im assuming i continue taking all my supplements? Centrum 1 a day, vitamin d 1 a day, probiotic 1 a day, folate 1 morning and 1 night, plus fish oil 1 every second day. Thanks heaps

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes! Blue dust headed your way and you can keep on wiht those supplements.

[Bluedust]

Bfn today @14dpo :( just waiting for my period now so i can start my next cycle already.

[atomic sagebrush]

Bfn today @14dpo :( just waiting for my period now so i can start my next cycle already.

Do you think you could have ovulated later?

[Bluedust]

I got my period the next day after i wrore this :) last cycle i got my solid smiley on cd 13, and woke up to pain (must have been ovulating) on cd 14. When i count back 14 days it shows ovulation on cd 14 and our attempt that day was like past midnight so i think that was late maybe. Thats okay i have a better feeling about this month (wishful thinking i think).
Today is cd2, i will have hubby release eveyry 2 to 3 days. Then once in my fertile week im planning to do every other day. My question is if doing eod, what do i do when i get my solid smmiley do i do every day so 2 days in a row then akip a day and attempt again incase of late ovulation?

[atomic sagebrush]

YES please do at least 2 days in a row on solid smiley. Every other day can end up being only one attempt in fertile window if we are unlucky so please try really hard to attempt the night of first solid smiley and second solid smiley and then if there's any way to get in another attempt the morning of the second solid smiley please do. Then go back to eod in case of delayed o.

[Bluedust]

Hi Atomic, So next week will be our "attempt" week so im getting a bit nervous now and want to give it my best shot. Im doubting my understanding of the attempts for some reason. We have been bd every 2 to 3 days since af ended. Its cd8 now and i will start opk testing tomorrow. My understanding for boy attempt is as follows: O-2, O-1, O, O+1 morning, O+1 night, then skip a day and attempt again. Does this sound okay? Or should we start with O-3 and skip O-2 then do O-1, O, O+1 morning and night?
Sorry Im a bit of a planner and need to know and cant just "see how we go"..

[MiaMelb]

GL with attempt week, sounds like you're heading in the right direction. Thought I'd clarify your days though to make it easier to follow if someone else reads this. When you get a +opk you will likely O 24 hrs after that. This means that day of +opk will likely be O-1. The recommendation is generally attempt on the night of +opk and them am and pm of the following day. That'd give you attempts O-1 and 2 x O day. Generally you should BD again the following day incase O ends up a bit later, and then back to every other day til bfp/af.
I've always been unsure about getting the two attempts in the one day so I'm going to aim for 3 attempts; O-2, O-1 and O.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes if hubby can manage all that that is what I LOVE to see. But rather than "O+1 morning and night" I want you to do O Day morning and night. O+1 attempt is just to cover our bases in case O is later than we expect (since it's normal for ovulation to vary by 12-36 hours even when it's regular).

O-3 is at your discretion. I can go either way on it. I worry that many guys will run out of steam aiming at that many days back to back so I'm inclined to skip the O-3 which generally has low chance of conception, but I've gotten some of my boys BD that day. It's just one of those things that probably varies depending on what each couple can do.

[Bluedust]

Thanks for the explanation again it really does make better sense now. Im glad i asked as i was confused about the attempts, it makes sense about the O day morning and night and not the next day.

Thank you heaps xx

[Bluedust]

Thank you for the response I just saw this didn't realise it earlier :) don't know why.

ETA: this was response to MiaMelb :)

[Bluedust]

Update! I just received my solid smiley 4pm cd12 (this is normal for me as my cycles range between 27 to 29 days). Ive been testing every morning past couple days and its been flashy smiley. Because last month we missed the egg i thought ill start testing twice a day and lucky i did. I just tested at 4pm and got a solid smiley, if i didnt test we were going to skip bd tonight. We bd last night too, will again once hubby gets home from work this evening and hopefully tomorrow morning as well. And will try to do tomorrow night too not sure if hubby can.. fingers crossed. Just wanted to share because if i didnt test twice today the bd tomorrow might have been late again. Please send me all your blue dust xx

[MiaMelb]

Catch the egg! Great to know you've already got in an attempt yesterday too.

[Bluedust]

Catch the egg! Great to know you've already got in an attempt yesterday too.

So we bd the night before solid smiley, the following night which was after a few hours of solid smiley, and then again this morning. Im hoping to bd tonight as well but if hubby cant tonight then will my attempts still coubt as 3 attempts? Or is the night before too early? I will try tonight but not sure if hubby can do it again he has a long busy day at work today so ill see how we go :(

ETA: i have egg white cm yesterday ( i dont really get this much so i think the robitussen helped) and ovulation pains early this morning (i get this every month)

[MiaMelb]

No that's 3 attempts in my books. The BD the night before
+opk should still be a viable attempt (may end up being O-3). If he can, go again tonight but if not give him the night off and get one last attempt (incase of delayed O) in tomorrow.

[Bluedust]

Thank you :) we'l see how we go

[Bluedust]

Our attempts this month looks like this; eod after af to +opk. Attempts around +opk the night before the +, i got the +opk at4pm so we bd that eveving, the following morning and night. Please work please work :bluesperm::fx:

[atomic sagebrush]

Perfect!! Tons of blue dust headed your way!

[Bluedust]

Perfect!! Tons of blue dust headed your way!

Atomic just when i thought we did everything perfect my husband injured his back yesterday :(( thank god it was after our 3rd attempt but i know you recommend continuing eod after this doesnt look like we can get a nother attempt in atleast untill tomorrow night which would mean 3 days after our last attempt :( i hope i didnt end up ovulating late this cycle aarrhhh

[atomic sagebrush]

Agh I'm so sorry to hear that, but you got the 3 attempts in which is great! FX that you Oed right on time!

[Bluedust]

Well i drugged up hubby with painkillers and managed to get another attempt in pheww! The only thing is it was last night where as i would have wanted it to be the night before but oh well i can obly plan so much.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes and for all we know that was meant to be that way! Good luck!

[Bluedust]

Hi Atomic, my period is due tomorrow i tested this am and its bfn i can feel AF coming with the stomavh cramps :(( i dont know what to do differently next month? It will be cycle 3 I know its a short time but with dd1 i fell pregnant whilst on the pill and dd2 fell pregnant 1st cycle.so i think i just had high expectations and now im really upset. I dont know do you have suggestions for next cycle?

ETA: what are your thoughts on red raspberry leaf tea? I read that it helps if you drink upto O day but dont want to try if it sways pink.

[atomic sagebrush]

It takes an average of 3-6 months to get pregnant even under ideal circumstances. It probably just wasn't the month this month. Tell me everything you did this month and I'll tell you what if anything to change.

I rarely recommend RRLT. I don't trust it for pink or blue. I think it could potentially sway either way based on its biological effects, and while I'll sometimes have a couple who have been trying for 6+ months add it in, it's more as a "Dumbo's feather" and not because I really think it helps people conceive. If you want to try it, up to you. I would drink it daily from AF to O, then every other day from O-AF, and once you get BFP, gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week. (I"m not saying you should use it, just that is how I'd use it if you want to.)

[Bluedust]

It takes an average of 3-6 months to get pregnant even under ideal circumstances. It probably just wasn't the month this month. Tell me everything you did this month and I'll tell you what if anything to change.

I rarely recommend RRLT. I don't trust it for pink or blue. I think it could potentially sway either way based on its biological effects, and while I'll sometimes have a couple who have been trying for 6+ months add it in, it's more as a "Dumbo's feather" and not because I really think it helps people conceive. If you want to try it, up to you. I would drink it daily from AF to O, then every other day from O-AF, and once you get BFP, gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week. (I"m not saying you should use it, just that is how I'd use it if you want to.)

You're right I guess it was only our 2nd month ttc... things we did:
Been doing HE diet for few months now but since cd1 i made sure i didnt miss eating really good (incl salmon, red meat, chicken etc) for both of us so i think in terms of diet everything was fine. Things ive been having every day for sure incl: v8 original, coconut water, and a glass with lemon squeezed in it, i also drink about 2L of water. I strawberries and blueberries, 1 or 2 eggs a day, cheese, full cream milk, mixed nuts incl almonds, walnuts, avocado, full fat plain greek yoghurt, oats and granola mix with pumpkin seeds and milk every am and late pm, fruit and veggies.

We've been taking our supplements for a few months now too. Ive stopped drinking coffee i was having 2 a day. Hubby has 1 every few days but we drink black tea every day is that fine?
DW aged 32: centrum multi everyday, probiotic every day, vit d every day, folate (1 morning 1 night), fish oil 1 eod.
DH aged 34: centrum mens 50+, vit d daily, coq10 daily occasionally fish oil.
I started taking robutissenstarting the week of expected ovulation which i think worked because i never saw that much EWCM when i wiped before in my life.
Started using clearblue advance digital opk cd9 empty circle, cd10 flashy smiley, cd11 flashy we bd, cd12 am flashy then 4pm solid smile so we bd that evening, cd 13 solid smiley bd am and pm. I tested again cd14 (using clearblue and another brand) and it was negative. We couldnt bd again untill cd16 because hubby injured his back but have been continuing since then eod (this is more sex than usual for hubby i think thats why we have 2 girls probably had 1 attempt :)

I always get real atrong ovulation pain it has woken me up a few times, its usually on the left side where i had a dermoid cyst removed a few years ago maybe scar tissue? Not sure..
We used preseed on 2 of our attempts around ovulation.
AF due today/tomorrow hasnt arrived yet.

[atomic sagebrush]

I honestly think you guys had a great attempt, it just wasn't the month.

Don't worry about feeling more pain on the left - the side you feel O pain does not mean the side you ovulated from.

[Bluedust]

In term of bd we've been doing eod and then when im ovulating (so when i get dolid smiley) im thinking of doing 3 days in a row for the 3 attempts instead of doing 3 in 2 days so thinking of skipping the morning attempt and doing 3 days in a row will that affect a blue sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

I prefer the morning attempt because three in a row may end up with the third attempt being after the egg has dropped. But as long as you're doing the EOD prior to that, I'm ok with it since you'll have 3 attempts in the fertile window anyway.

[Bluedust]

Thank you once again! Fertile window is approaching in a few days and i hope this is our month xx

[atomic sagebrush]

Mee too! Good luck!

[Bluedust]

Hi Atomic, i have a question about clearblue digital opk i hooe you can help. I nornally get 2 days of flashy smile then a solid smile ive been using this for 3 months now. Ive been testing since cd9 (recommended by the instructions according to my cycle length) its been begative ubtill this morning cd11 without any flashy in between does this sound normal? I will be testing with another one tonight as i have 2 but im really co fused if i should take this as positive and go with the 3 attempts or not. I "think" i ovulate around 24 to 36 hours after my first solid smiley not 12 hours so more on the longer side if that makes sens so im guessing i will ovulate cd12 or 13 aaahhh im just confused now.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes it can go straight to peak. I would have the 3 attempts but if you'd like to wait till tomorrow (agh today!) that's ok.

[Bluedust]

We had 2 attempts yesterday (i dont want to take any chances lol) so one am after my positive and one really late midnight. We will bd again tonight after hubby comes from work. Im thinking of bd tomorrow as well incase of late ovulation then skip a day and bd again.
I also tested with a different clearblue monitor this am and a different brand which shows 2 lines and they are both positive so im glad we bd yesterday.
I read somewhere exposure to semen can bring ovulation forward but couldnt find it later ia that true? Because we've been having a lot of unprotected sex past 3 months whereas before he has nkt finished in me for a few years.
Thanks for quick reply.

[atomic sagebrush]

~Maybe~ but it's all very sketchy and unproven and not at all reliable so I don't really recommend relying on it to do that.

Swaying in general can and does move ovulation all around for a variety of reasons so I think it's just best to keep in the back of your mind that you may O sooner or later regardless of the reason.

[Bluedust]

Thanks i think im the tww now fingers crossed.

[atomic sagebrush]

FX and TX too!

[Bluedust]

Aaahhhh i just got my bfp and im only 10dpo!! Thanks Atomic for all your support and for sharing all your knowledge with us.
So I continue my supplements (centrum, folate, vit d, probiotic, fish oil)? I feel like when i go see my GP next week he will tell me to take elevit or something.. what do you recommend? Also with folate ive been take 2 a day 1000mcg 1 morning 1 night do i continue the same amount throughout untill 12 weeks?

[atomic sagebrush]

Huge congrats! Centrum is a fine prenatal and has everything Elevit does. I think you guys should just continue taking what you've been on but if you want to wean from one to the other, that's fine, just do it gradually over the course of a few weeks rather than suddenly dropping from one to the other.

Yes continue the extra folate all thru the first trimester and then gradually wean off by spacing doses further and furhter out till down to one per day, then you can drop them.

[Bluedust]

Huge congrats! Centrum is a fine prenatal and has everything Elevit does. I think you guys should just continue taking what you've been on but if you want to wean from one to the other, that's fine, just do it gradually over the course of a few weeks rather than suddenly dropping from one to the other.

Yes continue the extra folate all thru the first trimester and then gradually wean off by spacing doses further and furhter out till down to one per day, then you can drop them.

Thanks again!

[Bluedust]

Huge congrats! Centrum is a fine prenatal and has everything Elevit does. I think you guys should just continue taking what you've been on but if you want to wean from one to the other, that's fine, just do it gradually over the course of a few weeks rather than suddenly dropping from one to the other.

Yes continue the extra folate all thru the first trimester and then gradually wean off by spacing doses further and furhter out till down to one per day, then you can drop them.

Hi Atomic, im curently 6weeka 2 days had my first ultrasound to confirm dates all was good we saw a heartbeat too.
However, i have been admited to hospital with hyperemis gravidum (hope i spelt it correct). I had 2 IV drips as i was dehydrated. They also gave me 2 medicines. Ondansetron which did nothing. Then they gave me metoclopramide (maxalon). This took the edge off but not 100% it also wares off after a short few hours and i have to take it again. I am really bad, i camt eat or drink without having to vomit. I cant go to work and even struggling with day to day activities. Do you have any suggestions? I have been reading that acupuncture might help so im thinking of calling somewhere tomorrow to make an appointment. Have you heard of anyone else experience this and can provide some help. Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes lots of us have had HG. I'm so sorry to hear you're struggling with it. I didn't ahve HG but did have severe morning sickness and what worked best for me was sucking very sour candy all day. These kind of tricks usually don't help much with HG, but maybe coupled with the medication it can get you through. I would just eat whatever you think you can keep down, even if it's ice cream or soda pop. You just want to stay hydrated and keep some calories moving through.

I hope it eases off for you very soon. :heart:

[Bluedust]

Hi Atomic, ill be 11 weks this Friday and past few days i have started to feel MUCH better.. just wanted to ask where and how i can post my sway? When i was reading through the site i enjoyed reading through other people's sways so id really like to help others too. I am booked in for my NT scan in 3 weeks as i wanted to be 13 weeks hoping to get a good nub shot.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey! It's here ! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/