Beginning to lose all discipline

[Boymom287]

I have been trying for 10 months and on clomid, halfway LE dieting for 4 months. I’m catching myself snacking more and more and allowing a bit more meat into my diet. I am tempted to just throw out the diet altogether and stay on the clomid? I don’t know what to do! We are a family of meat eaters! Meet, eggs, nuts...we live on that stuff so it is so hard to stay strong when I am just not getting pregnant! Advice? Words of wisdom? Encouragement? Anything would help!
Thank you for listening to my rant [emoji854]


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[clarkrl2]

Unfortunately I have no advice but I know the feeling of being so over the diet. I’m vegan so I enjoy the food but hate the no snacking. I’ve been so good with the rules but for some reason today was not easy.

[ThinkingofPink]

How strict are you? What limits are you staying in throughout the day? Maybe there is a little wiggle room somewhere for you. Before stopping the diet all together I would at least see if you could stick to it but add in a cheat day a week to curb the cravings.

[dreamofdaughter]

I agree with ThinkingofPink. Add a cheat day so you can stay on the diet. Atomic always says one day is not going to have a deleterious effect because if only one day mattered we would only need to change our diet for one day.

I am able to deal with not snacking by drinking hot water and a little ginger. Can you try to add something like a glass of water or sparkling water before you eat the snack? Or maybe atomic has a suggestion for a snack that doesn't spike your blood sugar?

[Boymom287]

My typical day consist of coffee as soon as I wake up with a slash of almond milk, if I had my last meal at 7:00 the day before I will make myself some egg whites with spinach or an English muffin with jam around 9:00, otherwise I’ll go to the gym and eat something like veggies with hummus around 11:30 and maybe a tortilla crisped up with iced coffee. I try to hold off on eating again until dinner which is typically a veggie, rice or potatoes and some kind of meat. I just give myself smaller proportions. If I’m still hungry after the kids go to bed I have nonfat Greek plain yogurt with frozen berries. [emoji51]
Most days I am good about snacking but I have been sick and I’ve just been eating around the clock little things like saltines, plain pasta, soup etc and now homemade oatmeal cookies from my mother. I know oatmeal is bad so I won’t have more than 2!
Any recommendations??


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[Boymom287]

I agree with ThinkingofPink. Add a cheat day so you can stay on the diet. Atomic always says one day is not going to have a deleterious effect because if only one day mattered we would only need to change our diet for one day.

I am able to deal with not snacking by drinking hot water and a little ginger. Can you try to add something like a glass of water or sparkling water before you eat the snack? Or maybe atomic has a suggestion for a snack that doesn't spike your blood sugar?

Thank you girls! I will try the hot water and ginger. That might work for me!


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[Nell_]

Diet coke is good to help between meals! Or how about a coffee. Are you eating your calorie allowance maybe that's why you're hungry? You're doing great though!! Are you on Clomid for swaying then? Sure atomic will have lots of advice x

[Boymom287]

Yes I have been having Diet Pepsi here and there and I have about 3 cups of coffee/day. And in regards to the clomid, yes and no. I have unexplained infertility. My first son was unexpected (birth control baby), my second son took 2 years and 3 rounds of clomid and my 3rd son (heart stopped at 18 weeks) was unexpected. I seem to ovulate just fine but just can’t get pregnant! I think we may have to test hubbys sperm next.
Thank you girls for all this advice. I can’t tell you how much it helps!


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[dreamofdaughter]

Thank you girls! I will try the hot water and ginger. That might work for me!


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Check with atomic first though about adding the ginger. I only *just* started doing it (before I was drinking plain hot water) and I add the tiniest amount but I wouldn't want to mess up your sway if it's a no-no ;) For me, hot water eases hunger better than cold water and I can't stand pop so all I am saying is before you reach for the snack, if you can just drink something (sounds like you already do that with pop/coffee?) and see if you can avoid the snack, you will probably feel less stressed about when you do really need that snack, you know?

It was only when I stopped tracking (but still skipped breakfast and no snacks) that I got pregnant (even though it was a CP). I had a pretty good idea of what to eat after 6 months on the diet and I really don't worry if I eat some chicken/salmon at one of my meals because it's such a small portion I really can't believe it's going to convince my body times are suddenly good. I was eating some kind of meat at every meal before swaying and I was a cereal addict!

Good luck :)

[Nell_]

Yes I have been having Diet Pepsi here and there and I have about 3 cups of coffee/day. And in regards to the clomid, yes and no. I have unexplained infertility. My first son was unexpected (birth control baby), my second son took 2 years and 3 rounds of clomid and my 3rd son (heart stopped at 18 weeks) was unexpected. I seem to ovulate just fine but just can’t get pregnant! I think we may have to test hubbys sperm next.
Thank you girls for all this advice. I can’t tell you how much it helps!


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So sorry for your loss. Sometimes getting pregnant can take ages so hard though isn't it! I ended up having ivf as nothing for over a yr but right before i started i got pregnant but mc at 6 wks so just went ahead with ivf. Hoping naturally this time i did have endo but seems to have ckeared up since having my gorgeous baby boy. xx

[atomic sagebrush]

My typical day consist of coffee as soon as I wake up with a slash of almond milk, if I had my last meal at 7:00 the day before I will make myself some egg whites with spinach or an English muffin with jam around 9:00, otherwise I’ll go to the gym and eat something like veggies with hummus around 11:30 and maybe a tortilla crisped up with iced coffee. I try to hold off on eating again until dinner which is typically a veggie, rice or potatoes and some kind of meat. I just give myself smaller proportions. If I’m still hungry after the kids go to bed I have nonfat Greek plain yogurt with frozen berries. [emoji51]
Most days I am good about snacking but I have been sick and I’ve just been eating around the clock little things like saltines, plain pasta, soup etc and now homemade oatmeal cookies from my mother. I know oatmeal is bad so I won’t have more than 2!
Any recommendations??


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I need totals for fat, protein, and calories even just a rough estimate.

It looks to me like you're eating barely any fat which may not only explain the cravings but can potentially contribute to not conceiving.

When you've been sick it is fine to relax some rules and eat something. In fact I INSIST you eat some oatmeal cookies immediately LOL

[atomic sagebrush]

Check with atomic first though about adding the ginger. I only *just* started doing it (before I was drinking plain hot water) and I add the tiniest amount but I wouldn't want to mess up your sway if it's a no-no ;) For me, hot water eases hunger better than cold water and I can't stand pop so all I am saying is before you reach for the snack, if you can just drink something (sounds like you already do that with pop/coffee?) and see if you can avoid the snack, you will probably feel less stressed about when you do really need that snack, you know?

It was only when I stopped tracking (but still skipped breakfast and no snacks) that I got pregnant (even though it was a CP). I had a pretty good idea of what to eat after 6 months on the diet and I really don't worry if I eat some chicken/salmon at one of my meals because it's such a small portion I really can't believe it's going to convince my body times are suddenly good. I was eating some kind of meat at every meal before swaying and I was a cereal addict!

Good luck :)

It's one of those things that unless I've seen a good number of people doing it and have a good feel for both safety and how it affects your sway, I can't sign off on it. Probably fine but I just can't sign off on it.

:agree: once you get the swing of it it's fine to ditch the tracking. Just that I can't endorse what anyone is eating without at least a rough estimate!

:agree: some chicken or salmon even weekly is fine. Important thing is eating less than you were recently and when you got your boys.

[Boymom287]

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Here is a semi typical day. Husband has been wanting pasta a lot lately. Its sauce is filled with zucchini, broccoli, bell pepper, onion, sausage, tomatoes and heavy cream. I try to sometimes sub the noodles for Zoodles or spaghetti squash but tonight I probably won’t. Only because I have been so darn hungry lately!
Thank you so much for all of your guidance atomic and everyone else! I eat meat daily but like I said, definitely less than I was a few months ago and when I had my boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Let's up protein and fat to 50-60 g for both of them.

Sorry if I'm being dense but do you have calories here?

Just a reminder in case you have been doing this, you don't count protein and fat in fruits and vegetables. And in low carb vegetables like the zucchini, broccoli, etc you count NOTHING in them, they're free and unlimited.

[Boymom287]

Let's up protein and fat to 50-60 g for both of them.

Sorry if I'm being dense but do you have calories here?

Just a reminder in case you have been doing this, you don't count protein and fat in fruits and vegetables. And in low carb vegetables like the zucchini, broccoli, etc you count NOTHING in them, they're free and unlimited.

I don’t think it showed in that screenshot but my calories are typically between 1500 and 2000. Depending on how many glasses of wine I had that night [emoji854] I will up my protein and fat this go round. Thank you so much for your input!


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[Boymom287]

Also do spaghetti squash and butternut squash, Brussels sprouts, things like that count? At what veggies do I draw the line?


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[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: yes up protein and fat for sure, it really helps.

Spaghetti squash and brussel sprouts are low carb, free, and unlimited.

Butternut squash count cals but nothing else.

Rule is, if it tastes sweet/starchy, count the cals. There are some inbetweeny foods like carrots and turnips, and we generally count the cals in them but if you forget it's no biggie.