Pink swayers' December thread

[zanacal]

Swayers in waiting, swayers and BFPers all welcome :D

[Mochagirl]

Thanks for starting a new thread, Z! I like that we're in a new month now - a fresh start after an awful Fall. :luck:

[ladybug]

I am jumping back on the TTC train as well :)....I stopped the pill and now I am just waiting for my first AF and I will start...I am doing a loose sway as I only have 1 tube now and it has adhesions, so I am not expecting to happen quickly...Mocha we can put the fall in the past together!!! Goodluck!

[Mochagirl]

I am jumping back on the TTC train as well :)....I stopped the pill and now I am just waiting for my first AF and I will start...I am doing a loose sway as I only have 1 tube now and it has adhesions, so I am not expecting to happen quickly...Mocha we can put the fall in the past together!!! Goodluck!


You betcha, ladybug! Onwards and upwards. I predict a pink 2012 baby for both of us :HH:

[ladybug]

I really hope so Mocha :):hug2:

[Mochagirl]

Well, my temp is still up today. One more day at this level and I'll be getting my crosshairs for Thursday. My cm is now creamy too, so I don't feel like O is imminent anymore.

I don't think I really O'd because I never did get that +OPK and I was taking them religiously, but I think just to be safe I'm going to stop taking Vitex and wait until af arrives to start taking it again.

[amari]

Good luck, mocha. Hope you get your O soon!

[zanacal]

Hi ladybug!

Good luck to everybody hoping for a Christmas BFP :D

[Out of the Blue]

Awwww...Ladybug! :hug2: So glad you're back! Just like old times! :fx: that you get a speedy BFP

:wave: Amari & Zan

Mocha, hoping you did O and that it's your little girl just beginning. Good for you for stopping the Vitex...if you're not preg, it won't hurt to stop it for awhile, especially if you did O.

AF ended but then the next day I had EWCM (yesterday) & now today, nothing. I used 1/2 a tube of RepHresh yesterday and another 1/2 today. We've not started to BD yet...maybe tonight... :nails: DH has been taking care of himself (I hope!). I may switch to 1/3 of a tube of RepHresh every a.m. while we DTD every night. It makes it tricky to gauge how much goes in there but I can't find the large single tubes of RepHresh so I don't think they exist where I live. Checking CM when using it will also be tricky...it'll be hard to tell what type of CM is in there and I don't want to "disturb" it in there...

[Mochagirl]

Wow - your attempt is so close, Jen! I'm so excited for you!!!!

I'm planning to keep taking OPKs just in case, but I definitely don't feel fertile now, so I don't think it's coming anytime soon. My cervix is still open, but not nearly as soft and high as before, and my cm is definitely creamy (but abundant). I'm a little worried about the Vitex I've taken the past couple of days if I actually AM pregnant, but hopefully it'll be ok - I know lots of women keep taking it while pregnant. I'm also wondering if I should start taking my prenatal like I'd mentioned in that other thread...but I just don't even know if I'm in the 2WW or not.

I've heard that for most women with regular cycles and natural, uncomplicated m/c, af can come back as early as 4 weeks. I'll be 3 weeks from my m/c on Monday, which means just a week and a few days until I can (hopefully) start to expect O. If it doesn't come that week, I guess I'll take an HPT...but I just don't feel like I caught this eggie even if I actually DID O this week :(.

[Out of the Blue]

Mocha, the Vitex is a tricky thing, isn't it! I don't know if quitting it all right away is the best or if you should taper it off slowly...I would PM Atomic for some advice.

I'm so sorry you're feeling like you didn't catch her this time...You never know, especially since you're supposed to be super-fertile now!

Now that it's time to TTC, I'm freaked out and second-guessing things even though I don't know what I'd do differently. I just want to be preg w/a healthy bean and today, my heart is aching for her to come soon. I know you and ladybug feel the same way so I'm sending you both :HH: and good thoughts today!

[Mochagirl]

I know exactly how you feel, Jen. I just don't feel like I'll feel complete again until I'm pregnant - and the sooner the better. TTC is stressful enough under normal circumstances, but after a m/c when your body isn't predictable it's excruciating!

[amari]

Mocha and Jen-Sorry you're having tough times, Hugs. I hope it ends soon for you both!

mocha-so you are pretty sure you didn't o after all then?

Jen-are you just going to bd every day through o or are you doing fr and then bd'ing at a certain point? i'm so curious about everyone's plans!

i just realized i totally screwed up and had dh taking the licorice root, didn't realize he wasn't suppose to take it until af started. plus i guess with me starting clomid he shouldn't really be taking it anyways. i am also continuing to drop weight maybe too much? was down to 95.4 this morning, haven't had a period yet so not sure if i should eat maybe a few more empty calories and then drop them again once i end af? it's so confusing!

[Mochagirl]

mocha-so you are pretty sure you didn't o after all then?


I have no idea!! I *think* af is going to give me crosshairs if tomorrow's temp is high, but I don't know if that means anything if I never got an OPK. I also don't know if all that spotting I had in with the EWCM means it wasn't O. I'm going to assume I'm in the 2WW until proven otherwise. I've stopped Vitex, peppermint tea, and RRL tea at atomic's suggestion, but I'm going to continue to take OPKs in case O still decides to come before af. If I don't have af or O by December 12th (4 weeks after O), I'll take an HPT.

Just to confuse things, I did take an OPK today, and it was way darker than yesterday, but cm is now definitely creamy and not eggwhite.

Oh, and as for your questions - we never took licorice root, so I can't help you there. As for the weight/eating issue - I'd definitely eat some more calories since you're so skinny you can't afford to lose anymore! When I was trying to maintain my weight last summer after dropping too much too fast, I made sure I ate 1800 calories per day - I found that was the perfect amount for me to stop losing weight but also not gain weight.

[auroara78]

hope you're in the 2WW with me, Mocha

I'm 6 dpo now and I am thinking of testing at 10 dpo, tho if i get BFN I won't get majorly down until AF decides to show...

Amari, I wouldn't lose any more weight hun or you may stop O'ing altogether

Thanks Z for starting the new thread for Dec!

[Mochagirl]

hope you're in the 2WW with me, Mocha


Me too! Hopefully we'll ALL be due date buddies :HH:

As usual, I'm obsessing over my chart and still trying to figure out when/if I O'd. As I do more research, I'm thinking that it's more and more possible that I DID O sometime in the wee hours of December 1st, as I think FF is going to tell me when I get my crosshairs. Yes, I never got a +OPK, but I was only testing once a day most days (I still don't have any ics - just expensive store-bought ones) so I might have missed my surge - either that or my post-m/c hormones gave me a false negative.

That weird red bleeding I had that began late at night on the 30th and ended on the morning of the 1st? Apparently that could have been ovulation bleeding - a sign of a particularly strong ovulation, according to several sites I found online. The other, brown blood that was in my EWCM leading up to that was probably leftover blood from my m/c. I've also found out that you can ovulate as long as your HCG is under 25, and I know mine was 13 as of Nov 28th. Now as to whether you can get pregnant if your HCG isn't under 5...I have no clue. Anyone?

Anyway, If I really did O when I think, then I really only got one attempt in, about 24-36 hours before O. The second attempt was probably past O+12, so I don't think I'd have any chance with that one. I'm not feeling great about the attempt. The timing was ok, I guess - though I would have preferred that we'd dtd again on 30th. Also, I used Sylk AND jump and dump after having dh release about 3 hours before our attempt. Too much? I used rephresh on Nov 28th, then again on the morning of the 1st - I'm hoping this second time was AFTER I O'd as otherwise I would worry I killed all the sperm.

I think I'm going to assume I'm in the 2WW, but I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope for that BFP :(.

[amari]

Mocha-yes,i've had spotting at o before. what are crosshairs?

auroura-i already stopped getting my period and ovulating, i will be starting clomid for the first time once i get my period. i did eat a bit more yesterday and today though b/c i want this medicine to get my period to work! thanks for the advice though!

[Mochagirl]

Mocha-yes,i've had spotting at o before. what are crosshairs?


I use the website fertilityfriend.com to chart, and it will automatically pinpoint your O day for you after you have 3 elevated temperatures in a row (in combination with other fertility signs). When the your O date is determined, 'crosshairs' appear on your chart showing one line indicating your O day, and another line showing your coverline temperature. I don't have my crosshairs yet, but here's my chart. I think it likely the crosshairs will appear tomorrow (so possibly by the time you read this post):

22b67e Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/22b67e/)

[amari]

I haven't charted or read about that stuff in so long because when I did do it a few years ago it stressed me out! ; )

[indigoviolet]

Mocha- that sounds spookily similar to my attempt!! Really hope you get the same result as I did! I did rephresh the morning before dtd and some rephresh after, J&D and dtd about 3 or 4 days before O. I couldn't work out O properly either this month (for the first time ever). As you know, I wasn't officially attempting but didn't want to miss a precious month so was making it as hard as poss to get pg, it still happened, so hopefully it will for you too. Praying you get a positive result!
I think you can def get pg if hcg still in system, would have thought it would just help new pg along. Also you had such a low level on 28th by time sperm met egg it would be at least half that amout or even less.

[sweetsister]

Hi ladies ,im now at 3dpo and cant beleive im still here ttc, and now its December !But i feel dare i say it....ok i will i just might have caught the eggie this time...im feeling twitches and that feeling like a foreign object is in there..u know?I also oddly didnt have any o pains this time just dull aches which i have been having pAINFUL o pains before ?So i wonder?Anyways i hope this is our lucky December everyone!!
Mocha i hope you oed i cant use ff its too much work for me,but sounds good for you! xx
Actually i just realized December is a really GOOD month to ttc as well be so busy getting ready for xmas that it will fly by so if we dont conceive then it will go fast to the next month of trying but if we do then that tooo!

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, Indigo - you make me feel better :HH:. I've just been googling whether you can get pregnant with HCG in your system and keep finding conflicting answers. I did another HPT today - not a FRER but a store brand early result one that's supposed to be almost as sensitive as a FRER. It's so ambiguous I probably wouldn't consider it a BFP if I was testing for pregnancy, but there's definitely SOMETHING there that looks like an evap with no actual colour - just a shadow. As I said, I had an HCG of 13 last Monday, and I've heard that anything 5 or below is considered negative. I think a FRER is supposed to be able to read an HCG of 10, but surely I have less than that by now...?

[indigoviolet]

I think it has a half-life of 48 hours so on Wednesday it should have been down to 6 or 7. I know of so many people getting their bfp in the cycle right after a m/c so they would have had similar hcg levels as you. So I assume it is completely possible and even favourable (I'm sure not only does it sway pink but you are more fertile after m/c). Try not to worry and start thinking positive fertile/ implantation thoughts!

[amari]

I think it has a half-life of 48 hours so on Wednesday it should have been down to 6 or 7. I know of so many people getting their bfp in the cycle right after a m/c so they would have had similar hcg levels as you. So I assume it is completely possible and even favourable (I'm sure not only does it sway pink but you are more fertile after m/c). Try not to worry and start thinking positive fertile/ implantation thoughts!

yes, I agree with this!

[Out of the Blue]

Just have a quick min so I can't stay long but wanted to say:

YAY, Indigo!!!!! BIG CONGRATS!!!

:fx: for you SweetSister...hoping your sweet girl is on her way right now...sorry it's been so long for you thus far.

M.J. - looked at your chart just now & YAY for crosshairs!!! I think you O'd and if so, you're super fertile so just sit back and go on auto-pilot for a few days. I don't know a lot about HCG levels and whether or not you could get preg but I would think that if you indeed O'd, you could get preg...I don't think you would have O'd if the levels were too high! OHHHHH.....so excited for you!

Well, we didn't have an attempt yet but will tonight for sure! I've been putting a bit of RepHresh in there for the past 3 days...not a lot but enough to help. We'll use Sylk too. I'm so ready for another baby...better be on your way, stork!!!

[lemon2012]

HELLO!
Are you on the December chitchat thread as well?

Out of the Blue...what is your sway plan? Frequent bding and rephresh?
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mocha girl.....hopefully you caught it and that you od....it must be frustrating!
Amari....what day are you on? Checking and trying to figure things out often gets more frustrating I think as well.

[HopeandDreamG]

Out of the Blue~ Good Luck Tonight!
Mocha~ I agree I think you O'd also, and I agree with MOcha if you O'd pregnancy is possible and many ladies get preggo first month after M/C.
Amari~ What did you hear about licorice root? I had Dh taking it for awhile.. Is it supposed to be from AF-O?

[Mochagirl]

You ladies are all so amazing and supportive...what would I do without you?? :HH:

I was just in the bathroom and decided to check my cervix and found brown spotting with a teeny bit of red streaking. Not sure what that means after O? Maybe O didn't come after all, and this is a precursor to an early af? (if I'm not going to get a BFP, the best case scenario would be an early af, because it would mean I could make another attempt 2 weeks from now). Maybe it's still spotting from the m/c? On my u/s 2 weeks ago there was still a teeny amount of tissue present, but I figured with a full week of bleeding after that it was probably gone by now. Is there such a thing as post-O spotting? It's too early for implantation unless FF has my O date wrong.

[Mochagirl]

I just found this online when searching about spotting at 3dpo:

"...the irritation caused by egg lining or Corpus Luteum (something like that!) as it implants high in the falopium tubes can cause bleeding....and this would be a few days after o."

I'll try to stay hopeful, though part of me thinks this spotting just means my m/c still isn't complete :(.

[Mochagirl]

Jen - I am soooooo excited that your attempt is so close. I have a great feeling about your chances of getting a December BFP!!! :HH:

[lemon2012]

Mocah...I have read if you have a temp shift it means you have ovulated!
If you get positive OPK but no temp shift that would be false.
SOOOO!!!!!!!!! I am going to say you o'd...now, time to relax:)
HAHHA, speak for myself!
Anyone think a really really sore back is pms or pg???? Just wondering, I vote PMS!

[Mochagirl]

Mocah...I have read if you have a temp shift it means you have ovulated!
If you get positive OPK but no temp shift that would be false.
SOOOO!!!!!!!!! I am going to say you o'd...now, time to relax:)
HAHHA, speak for myself!
Anyone think a really really sore back is pms or pg???? Just wondering, I vote PMS!

That's exactly what I was wondering. Is it possible to get a temp shift like that if you haven't O'd? If not, that's great news!

Oh, and I think a sore back could go either way - pregnancy or pms. Here's hoping it's a prego symptom for you!

[amari]

Out of the Blue~ Good Luck Tonight!
Mocha~ I agree I think you O'd also, and I agree with MOcha if you O'd pregnancy is possible and many ladies get preggo first month after M/C.
Amari~ What did you hear about licorice root? I had Dh taking it for awhile.. Is it supposed to be from AF-O?

Atomic said the licorice root was just af-o, i hadn't realized this. I had dh stop it, but i don't know. what is everyone else doing?

[dannikins]

fingers crossed to every one for BFPs this christmas...:)

[Mochagirl]

Woohoo! I just found this on FF: "All your other signs can occur with or without actually ovulating, but your chart will only show a biphasic temperature pattern when you ovulate."

I guess that means I ovulated...I just wish I'd had a better attempt.

[lemon2012]

MOCHA:
Your attempt was great.....and you are fertile right? Coming off a mc? Try to think postively!
I think we might be close in proximity!
Did it rain today? lol

[Mochagirl]

I'm in K-W - where are you?

[lemon2012]

hahhahah
LONDON!!!
TOO FUNNY!

[Mochagirl]

Wow - we ARE close! :rofl:

[amari]

I got my period!! I start clomid on thursday!

[Mochagirl]

Woo hoo for af! I always feel like CD is a fresh start and anything is possible!

[Out of the Blue]

fingers crossed to every one for BFPs this christmas...:)
Thx and :holysheep: !!!!! Check out your ticker!!!!! Congrats, Mama!



I got my period!! I start clomid on thursday!
YAY!!! Now you’re ready to get this pink party started!!!




Out of the Blue...what is your sway plan? Frequent bding and rephresh?
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thx, lemon! :fx: that your cute little pinkie is starting to make herself at home in there so you’re just feeling a bit sore from that.
I guess we’ll be doing frequent BD and I’ve been trying to put ½ an applicator of RepHresh in there every a.m. It’s becoming very tricky to figure out how much goes up there but since I’m doing it every day (and it lasts for 3) I’ve got it covered. What’s really annoying, though is checking CM now…I figure I won’t worry too much about that either since we’ll continue to BD so I’ve got that covered as well :wink:



Out of the Blue~ Good Luck Tonight!
Amari~ What did you hear about licorice root? I had Dh taking it for awhile.. Is it supposed to be from AF-O?
Thx so much! I feel like I need some luck and positive thoughts this time around!

I think w/DH taking L.R., his system just needs a bit of a break so that’s why it’s suggested that he take it AF-O. I didn’t realize it but DH had started taking it a few wks ago (before AF) but he’s been only taking 1 every a.m. instead of 1 3x a day.

[Out of the Blue]

You ladies are all so amazing and supportive...what would I do without you?? :HH:
Awwww...back at ya! :hugs: and :cheerteam:
I could never do this w/out you all! You guys sure do keep me sane and positive!


Jen - I am soooooo excited that your attempt is so close. I have a great feeling about your chances of getting a December BFP!!! :HH:
Awww…tons of :HH: to you, Mocha! I logged on just now and I’m kind of tearing up a bit from all the support from you guys. TTC again is really scary for me but you are giving me such hope. I’m sending you so many positive pink vibes, M.J. You’re girl is sooooo close! Just close your eyes and try to picture her!

Mocha, I think w/your bleeding, it could be implantation or could also be some left over bits of your m/c but if it’s the latter, I would think you’re still okay if you O’d b/c if you O, you have every shot at getting preg still. I saw that you still have crosshairs this a.m. and judging from your CM pattern, I really do think you O’d, even if you never got a +OPK. The very 1st OPK I took after my m/c (a wk later) had NO color on the 2nd line. It was the last of that brand so I opened up a new stash of a different brand and dipped it into the same pee and there was a definite positive line there. Moral of the story, don’t trust your OPKs, ladies! They may not be sensitive enough. Trust in the temping as it’s proven to be way more accurate, especially if you’re consistent. :cheer:

Edited to add:
Remember, M.J., if you did O, you're really fertile this first time so don't worry that you didn't have a "better" attempt...I think it was perfect! :)

[Out of the Blue]

Well, we did it…it was our 1st attempt…DH was really sweet; he shaved (I like him clean-shaven, lol), changed the sheets and lit some candles. Usually, he never thinks of that stuff. Been doing the ½ app of RepHresh in the a.m., used Sylk while BD (I was reaaally dry!) and tried to make DH keep it shallow…it was a struggle. It sucks just laying there and not being able to let myself get into it…I just keep trying to picture our little girl. I had this pic in my head of DS1 and 2 w/her in the middle. They were all holding hands and smiling at me. She had light brown hair w/curls like DS1. I think I’ll try to keep this pic every time we BD. After we did it, I just laid there and read a magazine for 40 min, then dumped it. I want to get preg this time if at all possible so I’ll probably keep the frequent BD w/30+ min before I dump it. It feels like I may O in a wk so we’ve started sort of soon but it can’t hurt I think. A part of me is wishing I would have just gone for it on my 1st PP O in Nov. but I can't change things now. S/he'll come when they're ready!

[purplepoet20]

I am due to O sometime in the next 3 days... With my cycles being back to normal I have no idea what to expect, but if I had to guess about my cycles before my boys I did O around CD11-12. Hubby and I had planned to DTD everyday but we both have been sick since last Monday. So far we DTD last tues-fri and will DTD again after O, so maybe we will hit the 3-4 days before O or after. I am not sure if we will get preg this month but I think maybe I should spend a little more time loosing weight. I am loosing about 2-5lbs a week but I really want to loose it all before getting pregnant so I hopfully wont be 200 lbs on delivery day (DS1-180 DS2-190).

I have been a little more and more depressed as time goes on with this swaying. I keep thinking about my childhood desires to have a house full of boys. I don't know if I myself really want a girl or if I only want one for my MIL and Hubby. My MIL deserves a girl since she doesn't have one of her own but she is a great grandma figure to her step-granddaughter and her goddaughter's little girl (MIL's sister passed away 12 years ago and she stepped in as Nana). Maybe I should talk to her and see what she wants. Maybe I should tell her about swaying. I do listen to her as a mother-figure and I know she would be able to clear things up for me.

I think the dreams, wishes, and hope that swaying puts in your head is making me depressed... I am truely happy with what I have and would love more children no matter the gender. After 1998 I never thought I would fall in love ever again and let alone have children.

[auroara78]

Purplepoet, I know how you feel. I have wanted girl(s) since I was a little girl myself, but my two sons fill my heart with so much happiness, that I really wonder sometimes WHY I still want it so badly..is it to fulfill an old dream, should I just move on? Obviously I want a third child, so i am trying to keep my focus on that, that I feel that my family is not complete yet, and whoever belongs to us will come down the line, whether that is another boy or a girl....

Mocha--I think your attempt is still fab, and I do think you O'ed!! Glad to have you here in the 2WW! Also, Mocha, at about 3/4 dpo I had a drop of blood but thought it was due to the irriration of rephresh still bugging me! Maybe it was some of kind of pregnancy thing!

OOTB--I think you had a great attempt too by thinking about what your girl would look like! I often dream that our little girl would look similiar to DS1 with blonde curls and blue eyes. DS2 has blue eyes too, but his hair is light brownish. DS2 is more of a "manly man" look and DS1 is a "pretty boy" so to speak so easier imagining a girl from looking at him. GOOD LUCK!

Amari--Whoo hoo on getting a period! Hope your attempt here soon goes swell!

Lemon--what dpo are you? When are you going to test? I am 8 dpo, and I will test with FMU using FRER at 10 dpo, on Weds morning! I am so excited but scared too! My symptoms so far are lower back ache and definitely something is going on with my boobs...they are not bigger but sore and hot. Who knows? I am surely over-anyalzing everything!

[Mochagirl]

Remember, M.J., if you did O, you're really fertile this first time so don't worry that you didn't have a "better" attempt...I think it was perfect! :)

Thanks, you're sweet - but I think rephresh, sylk and jump and dump might make it just too hard to get pregnant (I really wish I hadn't jumped and dumped - I only did it because I thought O was still days away). Last summer I couldn't get pregnant until I dropped all 3.

Your attempt sounds absolutely awesome, though. Sending you sticky pink vibes!!!

[Mochagirl]

Purplepoet - good luck with your attempts. I really hope this is your month! :HH:

[Mochagirl]

Mocha--I think your attempt is still fab, and I do think you O'ed!! Glad to have you here in the 2WW! Also, Mocha, at about 3/4 dpo I had a drop of blood but thought it was due to the irriration of rephresh still bugging me! Maybe it was some of kind of pregnancy thing!


Awww, thanks. Here's hoping that post-O spotting is a good sign for us both!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Awesome amari :)

[amari]

Wow-so many of you are in the 2ww! how exciting! sending pink dust to you all!!

jen-how romantic of your dh! really sweet of him! are you going to dtd now through o?

when is everyone testing?

[lemon2012]

Hi everyone,
Thanks for the notes everyone!
Aurora...I feel I could have written your post! I cannot help but want it soo badly it makes me sad and ache for the little girl I have never met! Good luck when you test!
Out of the Blue.....it is bound to happen! How much rephresh are you using...? I have a hard time figuring out how much goes in! Every other day is your plan? What about close to o?
PS: i am cd 13...BFN! using cheapies
I have no idea what to do...get rid of the products? more attempts? no frequent release? is anyone doing frequent release?
No diet for me! Is anyone off the diet? I have eaten out 3 times! I am eating so much I gained a few pounds already!

[HopeandDreamG]

Indigo- I keep looking to see if you have a pregnancy ticker yet!!

[amari]

anyone know anything about am vs. pm dtd? do either of them sway girl?

[dannikins]

i have heard am is best for girls.

[rainbowflower]

I don't think either matters really
some say men have highest sperm counts in the morning, others in the evening. Really I doubt it would be enough to make a difference






I haven't been around much lately - busy with RL stuff and we were away for the weekend... but currently 8dpo. Please please please can AF stay away for another few days so I don't have a LP defect any more! If AF stays away I will start my sway when AF arrives ready to TTC in January!

[Mochagirl]

rainbowflower - I hope af stays away for you :HH:

I took one last FRER this morning to make sure I get a BFN before the real testing begins - finally, a true BFN - even with FMU. Now there's no danger of me seeing a faint line in 5 days or so and getting excited only to discover it's just leftover hormones from the m/c. Hopefully this will be the last BFN I'll ever see....

[amari]

Good luck rainbow flower, stay away!!

[Out of the Blue]

PP – you’re doing an amazing job losing weight! If it feels right, talk to your MIL. She sounds sweet! So sorry you’re down…Swaying, especially as long as you have can really start to be depressing. Please try to not give up your dreams…You have an amazing family but I know you have more to come! We’ll be here to cheer you on regardless of swaying or not!
:cheerteam:


Purplepoet, I know how you feel. I have wanted girl(s) since I was a little girl myself, but my two sons fill my heart with so much happiness, that I really wonder sometimes WHY I still want it so badly..is it to fulfill an old dream, should I just move on? Obviously I want a third child, so i am trying to keep my focus on that, that I feel that my family is not complete yet, and whoever belongs to us will come down the line, whether that is another boy or a girl...

Perfectly put! Exactly how I feel, Auroara! :HH:

I often dream that our little girl would look similiar to DS1 with blonde curls and blue eyes. DS2 has blue eyes too, but his hair is light brownish. DS2 is more of a "manly man" look and DS1 is a "pretty boy" so to speak so easier imagining a girl from looking at him. GOOD LUCK!
Same w/our boys…Pretty boy and manly-man, lol! Hoping if we have a girl, she resembles DS1 b/c as cute as DS2 is, wouldn’t be pretty if he was a she!

Lemon, :fx: for a sneaky BFP!!! Yes, it’s very tough to try to only squeeze half of a tube of RepHresh in there. I think yesterday it was only 1/3 but I’m putting a bit in every a.m. and then we’re trying to BD every p.m. through O. I’m not sure if it’s a good strategy to use some RepHresh every day or not but I figure I’ll be covered if I only get a bit in there sometimes.

Rainbow…Really hoping you’re able to lengthen your LP. I’m sending heaps of positive thoughts!

Hopefully this will be the last BFN I'll ever see....

Hoping so!!! :cheer:

[Out of the Blue]

I had to take DS2 to the doc yesterday for an ear infection. Today, headed there again w/DS1 b/c he's got the same thing...poor kid just got over it a wk ago so he'll have to get another round of stronger meds. I'm hoping he won't have to get tubes in his ears but if so, it'll give him relief.

We BD again last night...Poor DH just can't get into the mood b/c I'm avoiding O. I just told him to look at my boobs and wouldn't you know it, he came right away! Hoping this will work again! I'm already sick of DTD and I think this is only the 2nd night...It feels like my body is progressing and should O within a week (???). Now that it's TTC time, I'm second-guessing my sway. I really want my girl since this will be our last kid but I just want a healthy baby and then I'll deal w/GD later!

Auroara, wasn't it you who had issues w/the RepHresh? I felt a bit sore in there yesterday, maybe b/c we DTD and then I put more lube in there the next a.m. It didn't do this to me last time, however, I didn't use it as often either.

I'm so excited for all you pink mamas in the 2ww!!! We seriously need a spreadsheet to keep track of you all, lol! I'm throwing BFpinkP dust all around!!!

[auroara78]

Jen,

Hahah yeah I feel the same way about DS2...if our girl looked like him, well....she woudn't be exactly very girly looking! It's funny how our two sons are similiar as one is a pretty boy and the other one is more manly looking.

YES!!! It was me who had the problems with Rephresh. It really tore me up down there. My VJ is traumatized!! It's been over a week now, but it still feels "off" to me and my DH and I had sex last night (really didn't want to, since I'm still in this blasted 2WW) and he even noticed how dry I was. He was kind of frustrated and was like "what am I doing wrong?" What he was doing wrong was by bothering me! Well, anyway, I managed to muster up enough to finish having sex, and then it got all irrirated down there again. I really wonder why I had such a bad reaction to the represh, and why now, even after a week of it being over, I'm still not myself.

Like I said before, it made my area very red and dry, and I never detected any EWCM while using it, but I'm sure of course there was still somewhere up there.

My only concern now is whether I want to bother with it again in Dec if I get a BFN. Not sure if I want to re-traumatize myself!

Lemon, sorry to hear about the BFN! I still say it ain't over till AF shows!

[auroara78]

rainbow flower, good luck on BFP!

[auroara78]

Oh not to hog the thread, but I'm gonna test now prob on Sat! May test tomorrow morning but really dont want to deal with the news right before work, so I'm gonna try to hold off until 13 DPO, so that the result may be more accurate! At least, I hope I can hold off that long!

[zanacal]

It's so lovely to have this thread busy - the blue swayers usually put us to shame (Hi ladies :D)!

Good luck to everybody having their attempts around now, it's a busy time for ttc and I'm hoping some of the magic of the season rubs off on you all! I'm sending you all lots of sticky baby dust :D

Jen - those must be some good boobies you've got there :giggle:

Just two more days and we'll know whether we're team blue or team pink - why don't I have any sixth sense whatsoever?! I honestly have no idea what we'll hear but I'm trying to prepare myself for blue.

[amari]

Good look aurora and zan! How exciting for you both!!

[Mochagirl]

Jen - those must be some good boobies you've got there :giggle:


:rofl: I was thinking the same thing! Between nursing 3 kids for 2 years apiece and doing this LE diet for going on 6 months now my boobs have completely deflated. There's no way dh would be mesmerized by them like that (though he's sweet enough he'd never admit that)! :bigsmile:

[rainbowflower]

aurora - do you have an infection that might be causing that pain?

zana - not long now!

Jen - lol that must make things easier!

[Mochagirl]

Ok, so the plot thickens...I started having strong af-type cramps this afternoon, and around my boys' bedtime, I felt a wet sensation so thought I should go to the bathroom to check. There were two spots of brown blood on my underwear and pinkish brown on the toilet paper when I wiped. After the first wipe, it was gone.

When I first saw the blood my first thought was that af had come a week early (which I suppose could be possible after a m/c since everything's so out of whack) - these cramps definitely feel like af. But the blood is gone now - when I check my cm it's just sticky white with a bit of leftover brown gunge here and there. Could this have been implantation bleeding? I'm only 5dpo, but if I really O'd in the wee hours of December 1st, then I'm almost 6dpo. Also, on one of my past BFP charts I had a HUGE implantation dip at 5dpo. Could this just be more leftover stuff coming out from the miscarriage? I'm not sure what to think.

[amari]

I felt implantation with both my sons and had implantation bleeding with #1. I thought it was my period! It could def be that! Only time will tell. 2ww is so tough! :cheer: hope so!!

[Mochagirl]

Thanks, amari - you make me hopeful. Did the cramps feel just like af cramps? Was the blood brown and gunky (sorry for the tmi).

[Jamie86]

So AF arrived on monday and so this is going to be our first month really TTC (last month we BD once unprotected a couple days after my 1st positive OPK but that was a very last minute decision and all we did) but I'm getting nervous and have a few questions. I made a thread with a couple of these questions but with so many options of where to post things I'm never sure if I post in the right spot to get an answer.

I'm thinking of doing more of a "sway lite" so I don't stress myself out but I had a couple of questions based on things I was considering

1. What is the purpose of baby aspirin? I starting taking it but then I read some things that said it was bad to take it while TTC and then stop after conceiving (I'm not sure why exactly) and so I was a little worried and not to mention I kind of hate taking a ton of pills daily.

2. I also am trying to figure our about the timing and frequency of sex. We are going to attempt to do FR as in DH releasing every day from the end of AF on (let me know if I should be doing it differently) but I was not sure of when we should actually start with having sex. My cycle can range from 28-35 days and so I never really know when I will O until I start seeing my OPKs get darker so I didn't know if we should just start when my OPKs are starting to get dark and then how many times should we be attempting? Also on the days we do attempt should DH also be releasing once before our attempt and if he doesn't will it make a big difference? (FWIW I'm also planning to do rePHresh and maybe benadryl)

3.I'm also starting to worry about my testosterone levels. My skin is always really bad and I get a lot of breakouts but it has started to clear up (although still not good) and my sex drive is really low compared with when I conceived my boys so I know those are good signs. But I haven't added any saw palmetto or anything and I'm wondering if I should or if there are other ways to lower testosterone. Any opinions on that?

[Out of the Blue]

He was kind of frustrated and was like "what am I doing wrong?" What he was doing wrong was by bothering me!
:rofl:...I almost spit out my tea when I was reading this. Too funny, Auroara!!!


Well, anyway, I managed to muster up enough to finish having sex, and then it got all irrirated down there again. I really wonder why I had such a bad reaction to the represh, and why now, even after a week of it being over, I'm still not myself.

Like I said before, it made my area very red and dry, and I never detected any EWCM while using it, but I'm sure of course there was still somewhere up there.

My only concern now is whether I want to bother with it again in Dec if I get a BFN. Not sure if I want to re-traumatize myself!

I usually have EWCM by now but it’s non-existent so I’m thinking it’s b/c I’m putting RepHresh in there too often maybe. Also, it may be b/c of this that I’m a bit sore in there…??? I had a Y infection right before my period so maybe I was still a bit sore b/c of that and then the RepHresh made it worse…??? I didn’t put any in this a.m. and will see how things go tomorrow. I don’t want to overdo it and just be sore and not preg but I want enough in there to do the job…

I’m hoping you won’t have to worry about using it again b/c you’ll be getting a BFP soon…!!! :fx: Good for you for trying to hold off. I think 13dpo is perfect! I’m going to try to hold off testing until at least 12dpo once I’m in the 2ww. Ohhh…so exciting you’ll be testing soon!

[Out of the Blue]

Hey, lemon...Any news...??? :cheer: :fingers:

[Out of the Blue]

Thanks, amari - you make me hopeful. Did the cramps feel just like af cramps? Was the blood brown and gunky (sorry for the tmi).

Mocha, w/DS2 and this last pregnancy, both times I swore AF was coming...I kept checking and wore my diva cup or pads just incase...I never had any imp. spotting but soooo many women do. Guess it's just a waiting game but I'm very hopeful for you!!!

[Out of the Blue]

So AF arrived on monday and so this is going to be our first month really TTC (last month we BD once unprotected a couple days after my 1st positive OPK but that was a very last minute decision and all we did) but I'm getting nervous and have a few questions. I made a thread with a couple of these questions but with so many options of where to post things I'm never sure if I post in the right spot to get an answer.

So exciting, Jamie!!!

I'm thinking of doing more of a "sway lite" so I don't stress myself out but I had a couple of questions based on things I was considering

1. What is the purpose of baby aspirin? I starting taking it but then I read some things that said it was bad to take it while TTC and then stop after conceiving (I'm not sure why exactly) and so I was a little worried and not to mention I kind of hate taking a ton of pills daily.
I think it's to reduce pH levels? Girls, can anyone confirm on this? Since I'm still BF, I cannot take aspirin and anything I can't do on my sway just goes in one ear and out the other... :oops:

2. I also am trying to figure our about the timing and frequency of sex. We are going to attempt to do FR as in DH releasing every day from the end of AF on (let me know if I should be doing it differently) but I was not sure of when we should actually start with having sex. My cycle can range from 28-35 days and so I never really know when I will O until I start seeing my OPKs get darker so I didn't know if we should just start when my OPKs are starting to get dark and then how many times should we be attempting? Also on the days we do attempt should DH also be releasing once before our attempt and if he doesn't will it make a big difference? (FWIW I'm also planning to do rePHresh and maybe benadryl)
As long as your DH is releasing, he can either release in you or somewhere else. It's up to you how many times he releases in you and when but the more times in you, the greater chances of getting preg. I don't believe in timing so if you want timing advice, maybe someone else can help you. You could just try to BD a few days before you think you'll O and then continue even after you get a +OPK maybe. It's also up to you if you want him to release more than once a day...For me, I figure I'm on the diet and using RepHresh/Sylk and reaaaaaally want to get preg this time so he's only doing it once a day.

3.I'm also starting to worry about my testosterone levels. My skin is always really bad and I get a lot of breakouts but it has started to clear up (although still not good) and my sex drive is really low compared with when I conceived my boys so I know those are good signs. But I haven't added any saw palmetto or anything and I'm wondering if I should or if there are other ways to lower testosterone. Any opinions on that?

Off the top of my head I think drinking Peppermint Tea and lowering your protein/fat/cal intake helps lower your T levels. I know there's a few really good theads...I'll try to find them for you!

Hope my responses help!

[Out of the Blue]

:rofl: I was thinking the same thing! Between nursing 3 kids for 2 years apiece and doing this LE diet for going on 6 months now my boobs have completely deflated. There's no way dh would be mesmerized by them like that (though he's sweet enough he'd never admit that)! :bigsmile:

Here's the story...(I'm kind of embarrassed to admit all this but I've written more exposing things on this site by far!...) First off, DH is such a boob man! Waaaay back before pregnancy I did have nice little boobs… Mocha, I’ve been preg &/or BF since the summer of 2007 so mine have really been put through the wringer too! When I was preg this last time and thought I had a bleed, I tried wean DS2 too quickly…It was a disaster as now he’s doubled his drinking and also has refused to drink from my left side (b/c I wasn’t producing as much). I tried power-pumping on that side to compensate but it just didn’t work and I didn’t have the time. Fast-forward to now, DS2 still won’t touch “ol’ lefty” and is pretty much permanently attached to the right. I now have a sweet, perky little A and an almost C. It ain’t pretty, girls! Maybe DH just focuses on one side or something… Sorry…this post has been TMI but just wanted to say my boobs are nowhere near perfect!!!

BD session #3 happened last night. Boy is this getting old, lol. It's just so completely awkward when I can't get into it. I couldn't get a nice pic of our girl in my head this time b/c it just seemed like it was all too much work. Boobs saved the day again for me...Thank GOD! I didn’t put any RepHresh in this a.m. and may not tomorrow either. Hope we can keep this up until I O…

[Jamie86]

Hope my responses help!

Thanks so much they do help!

Atomic has confirmed for me it's to lower PH so I might start that but I'm just so torn on a lot of these things.

And after reading on here I'm not sure I put a lot into timing either so I think I'll just try not to think to much about that but I am a little worried about DH doing FR because he has had a pretty low sex drive and 2 times a day or even daily is like a chore for him and I don't want this to become too much work.

I've read that eating less refined sugar and simple carbs lowers testosterone and I'm hoping that's the case because I'm probably not going to lower my protein intake too significantly. I know this is not good for a girl sway but I had gestational diabetes with both pregnancies so I try to eat very low carb which is usually high in protein. I was not going to worry about it but then the more I read I started to panic a little thinking that maybe I should take saw palmetto.

Thank you so much for the help! I've read most of this on here but for some reason I can't help but ask the question to "hear" it from someone else directly to me because now I'm getting a little nervous but I'm also so excited.

[Out of the Blue]

Jamie, here's a really quick little bit on lowering T levels:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/nutraceuticals/555-lowering-testosterone-levels-naturally.html

I'm trying to lower my sugar intake as well b/c I just think sugar is so bad for your body anyway and if I can exclude it, I will! You can definitely sway w/out sugar! I'm also not eating a lot of pasta/rice and I never eat bread anymore...The majority of my carbs come from fruit, although I do eat air-popped popcorn frequently. I wish I could take S.P. but since I'm BF, I can't. I just try to trust in doing the things that I can to help maybe tip the balance in favor of pink.

I dont' think the swaying nervousness will ever go away until you actually deliver a sweet pink bundle. I think even if I was told I was having a girl at a 20 wk u/s, I wouldn't believe it until I was holding her in my arms.

[Jamie86]

Jamie, here's a really quick little bit on lowering T levels:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/nutraceuticals/555-lowering-testosterone-levels-naturally.html

I'm trying to lower my sugar intake as well b/c I just think sugar is so bad for your body anyway and if I can exclude it, I will! You can definitely sway w/out sugar! I'm also not eating a lot of pasta/rice and I never eat bread anymore...The majority of my carbs come from fruit, although I do eat air-popped popcorn frequently. I wish I could take S.P. but since I'm BF, I can't. I just try to trust in doing the things that I can to help maybe tip the balance in favor of pink.

I dont' think the swaying nervousness will ever go away until you actually deliver a sweet pink bundle. I think even if I was told I was having a girl at a 20 wk u/s, I wouldn't believe it until I was holding her in my arms.

Thanks so much for all your help! Yeah I really don't think this nervous feeling is going to go away either especially when swaying for a girl with all the things I've heard about it being easier to confuse a boy for a girl than a girl for a boy. I looked at your signature and my two boys were also born in 08 and 10 (March 2008 and June 2010 to be exact).

[Mochagirl]

Mocha, w/DS2 and this last pregnancy, both times I swore AF was coming...I kept checking and wore my diva cup or pads just incase...I never had any imp. spotting but soooo many women do. Guess it's just a waiting game but I'm very hopeful for you!!!

Thanks, but I'm starting to lose hope again. I had more spotting this morning - thick very dark red (almost black). I have a feeling all this spotting just means the m/c is still not complete. I spotted through O, at 3 dpo, in the evening of 5dpo and the morning of 6dpo...I think that's far too much for me to actually get pregnant. :( My temp did go slightly up today, but nothing dramatic.

[Mochagirl]

Jamie - welcome, and good luck with your sway. It sounds like atomic and OoTB answered all your questions, just know there's no 'right' or 'wrong' way to sway - we all have special circumstances of some sort we have to take into consideration.

[rainbowflower]

Thanks, but I'm starting to lose hope again. I had more spotting this morning - thick very dark red (almost black). I have a feeling all this spotting just means the m/c is still not complete. I spotted through O, at 3 dpo, in the evening of 5dpo and the morning of 6dpo...I think that's far too much for me to actually get pregnant. :( My temp did go slightly up today, but nothing dramatic.

oh, you poor thing... so sorry it's dragging out for you. :( I don't know if it would prevent implantation - there's a chance I guess, but your body will only conceive again when you are physically ready anyway, stressful as that is. As you know I spotted right up until my AF turned up (bleeding of some sort every day), it makes it all even more frustrating.

perhaps you are destined to get a Christmas BFP

[Mochagirl]

I now have a sweet, perky little A and an almost C. It ain’t pretty, girls! Maybe DH just focuses on one side or something… Sorry…this post has been TMI but just wanted to say my boobs are nowhere near perfect!!!


:rofl: I've had that before when I've gotten confused and nursed all night on the same side.


BD session #3 happened last night. Boy is this getting old, lol. It's just so completely awkward when I can't get into it.

We did frequent BD all summer, and BOY did it get old for us too. DH couldn't get into it unless he thought I was, so I had to brush off my acting skills when really dtd was the LAST thing I wanted to do most of the time. He's also not a fan of fr unless I 'help' him take care of himself ever night, and that became a chore too. This time around I'm taking it easier on myself and dtd only after a +OPK (or a nearly +) and just getting him to release once before we dtd.

[Mochagirl]

oh, you poor thing... so sorry it's dragging out for you. :( I don't know if it would prevent implantation - there's a chance I guess, but your body will only conceive again when you are physically ready anyway, stressful as that is. As you know I spotted right up until my AF turned up (bleeding of some sort every day), it makes it all even more frustrating.

perhaps you are destined to get a Christmas BFP

I thought I remembered that you said you spotted through your first post-m/c cycle. You're right that it makes for a stressful TTC time. For me the spotting isn't every day. I bled up until CD7, then spotted every day up until CD13. After that I had a day with no spotting, then blood mixed in with my EWCM on and off from CD15-18, when I O'd. I had two days with nothing, then very brief an minor spotting on 3dpo, and more spotting on 5dpo/6dpo starting in the evening and ending in the morning. The sporadic spotting is sooooooo confusing because I keep thinking I'm done and back to normal, then BOOM I find brownish red when I wipe again!

Did you have a confirmed O in that first cycle? When did af return?

And as for a Christmas BFP, I wish! Unfortunately, it's going to be a Christmas sway and a January BFP. The thought of trying to stick to the diet when I'm staying with my in-laws for a whole week with no control over meals makes me want to cry. If af returns 4 weeks after my m/c, I'll be due to O on the 26th!

[Jamie86]

Jamie - welcome, and good luck with your sway. It sounds like atomic and OoTB answered all your questions, just know there's no 'right' or 'wrong' way to sway - we all have special circumstances of some sort we have to take into consideration.

Thanks so much! I think that's why I am having a hard time with this because I like things with a "yes" or "no"; "right" or "wrong" answer so it's hard for me to accept although I know I have to let it go (I'm a bit of a control freak :) )

[Jamie86]

:rofl: I've had that before when I've gotten confused and nursed all night on the same side.



We did frequent BD all summer, and BOY did it get old for us too. DH couldn't get into it unless he thought I was, so I had to brush off my acting skills when really dtd was the LAST thing I wanted to do most of the time. He's also not a fan of fr unless I 'help' him take care of himself ever night, and that became a chore too. This time around I'm taking it easier on myself and dtd only after a +OPK (or a nearly +) and just getting him to release once before we dtd.

I actually have always had breasts that were to COMPLETELY different sizes and could never find bras that fit. I developed early (wore a c cup in the 5th grade) and my breasts were always so saggy. I had stage 4 whatever the medical term for sagging boobs is (I think thats the worst as far as sagging). And so just this past year I got a lift/implant (the implant was really just to put the volume back that the lift took out and well as make them the same size) and I'm so happy with them but now I'm feeling guilty that it could stop me from breastfeeding this time around but we are not sure of how many children we wanted to have and my boobs were so hard to deal with (I had a hard time with bras, shirts, dresses and just self esteem) so I just didn't want to wait however many years it was going to be before we were completely done.

[Mochagirl]

Thanks so much! I think that's why I am having a hard time with this because I like things with a "yes" or "no"; "right" or "wrong" answer so it's hard for me to accept although I know I have to let it go (I'm a bit of a control freak :) )

Yup - I'm the same way. I think you'll find a lot of us boy moms are control freaks - probably has something to do with the high testosterone....

[Sunset]

Yup - I'm the same way. I think you'll find a lot of us boy moms are control freaks - probably has something to do with the high testosterone....

:agree: I'm total control freak too!

[auroara78]

Well ladies, i broke down and tested today and it was a BFN :(

I'm only 10 dpo, so not totally discouraged, although now all my symptoms have vanished, but sore boobs, but i always get sore boobs either before preg or AF so that is no help whatsoever!

Jaime, glad to have ya along! Good luck!

Mocha, I hope the spotting is still a good sign...keep us updated...maybe it's just implanation bleeding, hopefully?

Jen/OOTB: LOL, you make me laugh so much! Thank you! It's delightful to read all the posts, but yours has been cracking me up. Thanks! Good luck with getting a BFP soon!!

Rainbow, I dunno if it was an infection...not to be TMI, but aren't infections supposedly to be discharge-y? I've never had an infection so not sure if the irriraration was an infection, or just an irriration. It's worlds better now, though I'm still not in any mood to DTD.

Lemon, any news on BFN/BFP? Have you retested? Did AF come? Woman, we need details!!!!

Zan, I am so EXCITED to hear whether you'll be team pink or blue! Hoping you hear :babyf:!!!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry about the BFN auroara - hopefully you'll get that BFP in a couple of days!

[Jamie86]

Well ladies, i broke down and tested today and it was a BFN :(

I'm only 10 dpo, so not totally discouraged, although now all my symptoms have vanished, but sore boobs, but i always get sore boobs either before preg or AF so that is no help whatsoever!

Jaime, glad to have ya along! Good luck!

Mocha, I hope the spotting is still a good sign...keep us updated...maybe it's just implanation bleeding, hopefully?

Jen/OOTB: LOL, you make me laugh so much! Thank you! It's delightful to read all the posts, but yours has been cracking me up. Thanks! Good luck with getting a BFP soon!!

Rainbow, I dunno if it was an infection...not to be TMI, but aren't infections supposedly to be discharge-y? I've never had an infection so not sure if the irriraration was an infection, or just an irriration. It's worlds better now, though I'm still not in any mood to DTD.

Lemon, any news on BFN/BFP? Have you retested? Did AF come? Woman, we need details!!!!

Zan, I am so EXCITED to hear whether you'll be team pink or blue! Hoping you hear :babyf:!!!


Thanks! And 10DPO is still early on peeonastick.com she tested every day and got a very very faint positive on 11DPO but absolutely nothing on 10DPO so there is still hope!

[Jamie86]

:agree: I'm total control freak too!

But you still got your DD so that gives me hope!

[amari]

Mocha-it felt a bit like period but i guess i had other symptoms too like heartburn. you are 8dpo?

jen-out of curiousity, why are you doing low sugar? i usually eat so low sugar, on the le diet i have eaten so much more sugar and simple carbs than my whole adult life combined! i think i am thinking 1.it is different than what i am used to 2. it will drop my blood sugar drastically 3. a lot of girl moms i know eat like this!

[Mochagirl]

I'm only 6dpo so I don't have a lot of symptoms yet - I have chills constantly, which I had leading up to my last BFP, and I did have heartburn last night, though that could have been the huge bowl of pasta primavera I ate :oops:. I also have cramps and I've been on a big cleaning binge around the house, which is SO not me.

amari - everyone approaches the diet differently. If you look at the food I'm eating, it's pretty much nothing but simple carbs and sugar.

[maybeoneday]

Wow, you girls have been busy!

Had to swap my working days this week so haven't been around much. We had DS1's nativity on Monday. He was a King(he wanted to be a pirate but I had to break it to him that was not possible!) and they did so well. My boys are also 2008 and 2010 so looks like the perfect age gap to me!! DS1 is January and DS2 is March and they are both VERY different!

I am 5DPO and feeling a bit crampy today. I think I feel more positive this month than before but can't help feeling that I want it over by Christmas so I can eat real food again at my leisure!

GL to all those attempting and testing. xx

[maybeoneday]

Just two more days and we'll know whether we're team blue or team pink - why don't I have any sixth sense whatsoever?! I honestly have no idea what we'll hear but I'm trying to prepare myself for blue.

Zan, I will be thinking about you tomorrow but I know whatever you hear, it will be a perfect addition to your family. x

[maybeoneday]

Here's the story...(I'm kind of embarrassed to admit all this but I've written more exposing things on this site by far!...) First off, DH is such a boob man! Waaaay back before pregnancy I did have nice little boobs… Mocha, I’ve been preg &/or BF since the summer of 2007 so mine have really been put through the wringer too! When I was preg this last time and thought I had a bleed, I tried wean DS2 too quickly…It was a disaster as now he’s doubled his drinking and also has refused to drink from my left side (b/c I wasn’t producing as much). I tried power-pumping on that side to compensate but it just didn’t work and I didn’t have the time. Fast-forward to now, DS2 still won’t touch “ol’ lefty” and is pretty much permanently attached to the right. I now have a sweet, perky little A and an almost C. It ain’t pretty, girls! Maybe DH just focuses on one side or something… Sorry…this post has been TMI but just wanted to say my boobs are nowhere near perfect!!!

I was always really lop sided when feeding both my sons, they always took a preference to my right as well but after I stopped feeding, they slowly began to look more even (a bit saggy, but even!!). On the whole, my hubby found it quite funny rather than sexy though!!

Thanks for sharing, made me smile. xx

[maybeoneday]

I thought I remembered that you said you spotted through your first post-m/c cycle. You're right that it makes for a stressful TTC time. For me the spotting isn't every day. I bled up until CD7, then spotted every day up until CD13. After that I had a day with no spotting, then blood mixed in with my EWCM on and off from CD15-18, when I O'd. I had two days with nothing, then very brief an minor spotting on 3dpo, and more spotting on 5dpo/6dpo starting in the evening and ending in the morning. The sporadic spotting is sooooooo confusing because I keep thinking I'm done and back to normal, then BOOM I find brownish red when I wipe again!

Did you have a confirmed O in that first cycle? When did af return?

And as for a Christmas BFP, I wish! Unfortunately, it's going to be a Christmas sway and a January BFP. The thought of trying to stick to the diet when I'm staying with my in-laws for a whole week with no control over meals makes me want to cry. If af returns 4 weeks after my m/c, I'll be due to O on the 26th!

Mocha, I am sorry things are still sorting themselves out and I really have no advice to give you on the bleeding or even if it would prevent implantation but try not to lose hope yet, you never know.. (hugs)

As for Christmas with the in-laws, I too am not at home in control of food or drink... We are in France for Christmas with my mother in law, so I guarantee there will be French cheese and lots of wine and champagne up for grabs. To be honest I am kind of dreading it pregnant or TTC as we cannot eat French cheese or drink when pregnant and they are both rubbish for swaying as well!

[Mochagirl]

Oh, so true maybeoneday. It would be sooooo hard to be in France and not eating gooey cheese and drinking wine!!!

[zanacal]

I SO hope all of you trying at the moment get a BFP before Christmas - new baby aside, being able to eat all that wonderful food on the big day would be the best gift! My fingers and toes are crossed for every one of you :D

[Jamie86]

Sometimes reading on here makes me really nervous because I am really not putting much into the "girl diet" I am just trying to eat in a way that reduces my chances of gestational diabetes (so I am eating very little sugar and starches although I do mess up occasionally). I also feel like I conceived both my boys while on very strict diets with DS1 I was doing weight watchers very strict and had just lost 15lbs in 2 months and with DS2 I was going to a "diet doctor" and taking phentermine and eating barely anything and lost over 15lbs in 1 month. So I'm hoping that it will be enough to do something "different" from what I did with my sons rather than to stress myself out over a specific girl diet. Although reading on here how disciplined you ladies are I'm feeling like a big ole slacker.

[Mochagirl]

Jamie - I think as long as you're doing something different than last time, you're swaying! Don't let the diet details get you stressed - personally, I'm just doing what works for me. What works for you could be something completely different. Besides, health concerns like gestational diabetes are far more important than dieting to sway.

[amari]

Sometimes reading on here makes me really nervous because I am really not putting much into the "girl diet" I am just trying to eat in a way that reduces my chances of gestational diabetes (so I am eating very little sugar and starches although I do mess up occasionally). I also feel like I conceived both my boys while on very strict diets with DS1 I was doing weight watchers very strict and had just lost 15lbs in 2 months and with DS2 I was going to a "diet doctor" and taking phentermine and eating barely anything and lost over 15lbs in 1 month. So I'm hoping that it will be enough to do something "different" from what I did with my sons rather than to stress myself out over a specific girl diet. Although reading on here how disciplined you ladies are I'm feeling like a big ole slacker.

I absolutely agree with mocha. we all do it a little differently. we all ate so differently to begin with before the sway. you have to figure out what feels right for you and what is right for your health. i find that i have to eat breakfast no matter what, so i do! and it is actually my most cals of the day, but i can't really change it. but i still am eating way fewer times a day than i was before the sway. good luck, we're all here to help!

[dannikins]

good luck zanacal!!!!!
crossing everything for you...:)

[Mochagirl]

Well, I've pretty much given up hope for this cycle. When I woke up this morning I'm spotting again, this time red with clots and heavy af cramps. At this point I'm praying this is the beginning of af because if it is I might JUST be able to squeak in our attempt before we leave for our trip to the in-laws on the 22nd. I still don't know how we'll manage our attempt if I O while we're there since we're sharing a bedroom with all 3 kids.

This is CD 25 for me, but only 7 dpo (I normally have 26-28 day cycles). Anyone know if it's possible to have a shorter than normal LP in the cycle right after a m/c, or should I assume this isn't af starting and I'll have to wait until my normal 12-13 dpo for her to arrive?

[Indira]

Sorry Mocha :( I would think your lp could be shorter the first cycle after a mc, also considering you didn´t get a +opk, your hormones could be a little messed up right now, just my thinking. I hope you can have another attempt soon and catch the egg :luck: :HH:

[zanacal]

I'm sorry mocha, I'm so frustrated on your behalf. FX you get an early AF and an attempt before you go to your MILs. {hugs}

[Out of the Blue]

YAY, Zan!!! Replied to your other thread but I'm still riding your high!!! YAY for little pink impending bundles of joy!!! And YAY for you!!!

:babygirl::awe::babygirl::awe::babygirl::awe::baby girl::awe::babygirl::awe::babygirl::awe::babygirl: :awe::babygirl::awe::babygirl:

[Out of the Blue]

We did frequent BD all summer, and BOY did it get old for us too. DH couldn't get into it unless he thought I was, so I had to brush off my acting skills when really dtd was the LAST thing I wanted to do most of the time.

Yeah...DH knows I can't get into it for sway purposes but it really does seem to help when I grab his @$$, wriggle around and let out some little noises, lol.

M.J….:HH:!!! I know you don’t hold much hope for this cycle and it’s okay to feel that way but I’ll always keep the hope alive for you, okay? Maybe this isn’t your BFP cycle but I’m still cheering you on and keeping the BFP torch alive. Sorry if my words are corny but seriously…That’s what I’m here for…I’ll always keep hope alive for you, even if you can’t.
:hugs::cheerteam:

[Out of the Blue]

:wave: Jamie!
Did someone say “control freak”…??? I think I just heard someone calling my name! :rofl:
Regarding boobs, I completely understand your decision to get the surgery! I was so mortified when I got dressed and looked in the mirror one day! :holysheep: I tried stuffing the left w/6 breast pads and it looked a bit better but things were still off. Now it’s cold weather here so I’m bundled up and no one can tell anymore. I figure it’ll resolve itself when I get preg again. He’s not showing any signs of being done w/BF anytime soon. Boob man, just like Dad!

Sometimes reading on here makes me really nervous because I am really not putting much into the "girl diet" I am just trying to eat in a way that reduces my chances of gestational diabetes (so I am eating very little sugar and starches although I do mess up occasionally). I also feel like I conceived both my boys while on very strict diets with DS1 I was doing weight watchers very strict and had just lost 15lbs in 2 months and with DS2 I was going to a "diet doctor" and taking phentermine and eating barely anything and lost over 15lbs in 1 month. So I'm hoping that it will be enough to do something "different" from what I did with my sons rather than to stress myself out over a specific girl diet. Although reading on here how disciplined you ladies are I'm feeling like a big ole slacker.

I think the others shared my opinion on this already but just wanted to reiterate that everyone is different and there’s no one right way to sway…You just do what you can and what makes sense to you. The “perfect sway” doesn’t exist even if others talk about it. There are absolutely NO guarantee what so ever. Our bodies are all different and things that work for me, may not work for you and vice-versa. I know you know all of this already but just wanted to put it in writing for you so maybe you’ll feel a bit better. There are times where I just start 2nd guessing my sway left and right but I’ve been at this long enough to know I just can’t let myself go there b/c it’ll tear me apart and take me to places in my mind that I don’t want to go. Please try not to get down. We’re all feeling the same way on some level. :HH: and :bighug:

[Out of the Blue]

Well ladies, i broke down and tested today and it was a BFN :(

I'm only 10 dpo, so not totally discouraged, although now all my symptoms have vanished, but sore boobs, but i always get sore boobs either before preg or AF so that is no help whatsoever!

Auroara, 10 days is super early still...I think you may be happily surprised this weekend! :fingers: :cheer:

BTW, your posts make me laugh too! Sounds like your DH and my DH are quite similar, lol.

[Out of the Blue]

jen-out of curiousity, why are you doing low sugar? i usually eat so low sugar, on the le diet i have eaten so much more sugar and simple carbs than my whole adult life combined! i think i am thinking 1.it is different than what i am used to 2. it will drop my blood sugar drastically 3. a lot of girl moms i know eat like this!

Here's the thing...Sugar is really a girl swayers BFF...Lots of empty cals and drops those blood sugar levels nice and low!!! I've been avoiding it though for the most part for a few reasons...

1.) Last year, I completely overhauled my diet and was a super health freak. Among other things, I wouldn't touch sugar b/c it supresses the immune system, promotes inflammation, surpresses the release of human growth hormone (making you age much quicker) & unnecessarily raising insulin levels. I just hate to add it back into my diet now if I can somehow avoid it.

2.) After my m/c, I have come to rethink my personal sway...I want healthier eggies and sugar doesn't help.

Sugar is something that is very beneficial and effective in a girl sway, especially if you're only incorporating increased levels for a few mos. I say USE IT!!! I started adding a bit of sugar into my diet a few nights ago (YAY for candy canes!!!) I won't be doing too much of it or the fake sugars though. I do use stevia sometimes if I really need something sweet however it does sway boy. Oh, well...

[Out of the Blue]

Had to swap my working days this week so haven't been around much. We had DS1's nativity on Monday. He was a King(he wanted to be a pirate but I had to break it to him that was not possible!) and they did so well. My boys are also 2008 and 2010 so looks like the perfect age gap to me!! DS1 is January and DS2 is March and they are both VERY different!

I am 5DPO and feeling a bit crampy today. I think I feel more positive this month than before but can't help feeling that I want it over by Christmas so I can eat real food again at my leisure!

YAY!!! 6dpo now! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Yep! Looks like a few of us in this thread are on the same kiddo plan…DS1 – 4/08 and DS2 – 2/10 (A Valentines baby :awe: ) We wanted our little 3/12 bundle but it just wasn’t meant to be. Can’t wait to see what little soul comes along next. S/he will be our caboose, even though we’d love 4 (especially 2 boys, 2 girls). We’ll just be happy w/a 3rd healthy LO honestly! If he’s a boy, GD will just have to disappear, lol. That would be really cool if we all got our 2012 girls the same month!!!

DS1’s nativity sounded really sweet, especially how he was deflated when told he couldn’t be a pirate! Boys are so cute that way…

Have a great time in France! Whenever I’m there, I just have a nice, long morning stroll, going from pastry shop to pastry shop...No joke! Don’t get me started on the cheese! I feel the weight gain just thinking about it!

[Out of the Blue]

We took a break from BD last night...Our whole family is sick (DS1 - double ear infection, DS2 ear infection, DH - lost his voice w/bad cold and possible ear infection). I'm okay, though. I just have a scratchy thoat and a bit of a cough. Also we just found out one of our friends has less than 6 mos to live. He's been sick for a while but we've all been trying to stay positive that he could win this battle. Looks pretty bad unfortunately. With all of that going on, we just weren't in the mood. As I'm typing this, I'm really hoping that DH remembered to do a release in the shower this a.m....YIKES!!! I didn't use any RepHresh again today but will squirt what will hopefully be a half tube in tomorrow a.m. The plan is to resume DTD for a few more days. Come on, O!!! Hope I've got a nice, healthy eggie this time!!!


Sorry for all the post bombs above! :oops:

[auroara78]

Jen & Mocha, I am so hoping we all get our BFPs so we can be due date buddies!! Yay woudln't that be awesome!

I've stayed strong and not tested, yay for waiting until Saturday!! Hopefully a nice suprise Sat morning and that will just make the weekend so exciting!

Hubby has worse timing on matters...when I ovulate I have to cattle herd him into the bedroom, seriously, it's tough to pin him down! When I'm totally not interested, he's all like 'cmon, you know you want to...' yesterday when we were in the kitchen he lowered his tighty whiteys and flashed me....I like, really? Our 4 year son could've walked into the kitchen and seen him do that, LOL....some men....

Then last night after the kiddos were down to bed, we watched "Decoded" on History chanel and I was really into watching it until suddenly my eyes got so heavy, I mean I could not hold them open, and I fell asleep super early (for me) at like 10:30...the last few nites I cannot make it past 10 pm! So maybe this is a good sign?? I've slept from 10:30 pm until 7 am this morning and I feel like I got like 3 hours or sleep or something, I am so tired and can't stop thinking of my bed...this is the most promising sign yet!

And big GRATS to Zan!!! Whoo hoooooooo!

[Out of the Blue]

Hubby has worse timing on matters...when I ovulate I have to cattle herd him into the bedroom, seriously, it's tough to pin him down! When I'm totally not interested, he's all like 'cmon, you know you want to...' yesterday when we were in the kitchen he lowered his tighty whiteys and flashed me....I like, really? Our 4 year son could've walked into the kitchen and seen him do that, LOL....some men....

:rofl: times 100!!! DH is the same way...Mr. Hands ALL THE TIME until it's FR time...Then it's him who's hiding from me!

Ohhhh...could be an early sign for sure, Auroara!!!! :fx:

[zanacal]

Lol, my DH thinks it's funny to do that - but it reminds me of my children who also think it's funny to get their willy out at any given opportunity! Last night we were doing exercises before bed (DS2 had some major energy to burn so I was getting them to do star jumps and press ups!) and we were having great fun and laughing lots - and then I realised they were laughing so much because they both had their willies poking out. Honestly!

[ladybug]

Ok ladies I got my +OPK this morning... We dtd last night...I really wasn't expecting to O until Saturday but it came early...I am not really sure how it all works because I only have one tube, but I hope I am really Ovulating....Let the 2ww start!!!:)

[Out of the Blue]

WOOOOOOHOOOOO, Ladybug!!! Hope your wait is short and your BFP comes speedily!

[Jamie86]

My DH does the randomly getting the willy out thing to (I'm talking in the middle of the kitchen at 3pm when he gets home from work and every other time of day). We got married really young and we are still pretty young so I kept thinking it was just because he is young and that men must out grow that at some point but the more I talk to other women it seems that it never happens. We are working to potty train DS1 (he is 3.5 but has a developmental delay) and he loves to hold his hands out to his sides and see all the ways it can spray (wonderful huh?) and DS2 grabs his every chance he gets and laughs.

[Out of the Blue]

My DH does the randomly getting the willy out thing to (I'm talking in the middle of the kitchen at 3pm when he gets home from work and every other time of day). We got married really young and we are still pretty young so I kept thinking it was just because he is young and that men must out grow that at some point but the more I talk to other women it seems that it never happens. We are working to potty train DS1 (he is 3.5 but has a developmental delay) and he loves to hold his hands out to his sides and see all the ways it can spray (wonderful huh?) and DS2 grabs his every chance he gets and laughs.

My DH is 37 now and he's still at it...Probably no hope for your DH, lol.

I'm wondering if I can flash my boobs and DH to get him in bed while we're TTC...??? I may have to try it as long as the kids aren't in the room (although DS2 sees my boobs about 8x a day anyway...).

[Jamie86]

My DH is 37 now and he's still at it...Probably no hope for your DH, lol.

I'm wondering if I can flash my boobs and DH to get him in bed while we're TTC...??? I may have to try it as long as the kids aren't in the room (although DS2 sees my boobs about 8x a day anyway...).

I've tried the boobs thing trying to show him how silly he looked doing that randomly but he thought it was great and decided it was "nap time" for the kids so I definitely think it's a good plan when TTC.

[zanacal]

Yes that'll do it! We think it's silly when our DH's do it but they think it's a come on when treated to the same thing!!

[Mochagirl]

Why do men think they can turn us on by flashing us? Honestly, there's nothing uglier than a man's penis - remember that Seinfeld episode about 'good naked' and 'bad naked'? :rofl:

[Out of the Blue]

Why do men think they can turn us on by flashing us? Honestly, there's nothing uglier than a man's penis - remember that Seinfeld episode about 'good naked' and 'bad naked'? :rofl:

:rofl: Bwaaaaah, haaaaa, haaaa!!! On a sidenote, I really miss Seinfeld...:(

[Mochagirl]

:rofl: Bwaaaaah, haaaaa, haaaa!!! On a sidenote, I really miss Seinfeld...:(

Me too - it was one of the best shows ever.

[Jamie86]

Why do men think they can turn us on by flashing us? Honestly, there's nothing uglier than a man's penis - remember that Seinfeld episode about 'good naked' and 'bad naked'? :rofl:

Haha DH and I talk about that episode a lot sometimes in the middle of doing something (usually that would obviously look terrible if naked) we will say "do you think this would be good naked or bad naked?"

[auroara78]

Haha yeah ladies!!
Very funny Mocha!
I feel so happy that I'm not the only wife whose gotten blinded by flash of a penis at a random time! Esp. a not hard penis...sorry for TMI!! hahah

And Zan, my first son loves to randomly flash his wanker at us, then giggle about it...my husband gets gruffy and says "put that thing away" makes my son laugh harder. Can't wait for second son to start doing it /sarcasm

[auroara78]

....and back to our reguarly scheduled programming.....

Ladybug, welcome to the 2WW!
:luck: Good Luck :luck:

[amari]

Zan-Congrats on your baby girl-you must be through the moon!!

[Jamie86]

So I'm not sure if this is a good place to put this but I really need a place to have a little vent. I normally don't vent about my DH because he is a wonderful husband and father but I'm feeling a little annoyed and want to know if I'm being ridiculous (and don't worry you can be honest). My husband plays golf every saturday and usually once during the week because he works 6am-230pm and there is still a pretty good amount of time to play. This last week because it has been raining and he is working outside he didn't have to work monday (my in laws watched the kids and went Christmas shopping) and then every other day he got off early. Yesterday he asked if I minded if he went and played golf (he loves golf and will play in the rain) and gold a haircut and I said no problem. Well the golf course decided to close due to the rain so instead he went to a golf store and hit balls in the simulator and then got his hair cut and got home 1.5-2 hours before the kids went to bed. I'm basically saying all this to say it's not like he has had very little free time recently other wise I might not be upset.

Well late last night I found out I passed my final section of the CPA exam YAY! I feel like he just doesn't understand how big of an accomplishment this is and doesn't' even try to. Today he texted me at 10am saying he was thinking of playing golf after work but would see how things were when he got off. He came home for a few and made it very clear that he was just going to be in one of those pouty moods (he wasn't angry just pouty) if he didn't get to go. I said he could do what he wanted and I know I should communicate with him why it bothered me and he's going to say I should have just told him but am I wrong for being upset that it didn't even occur to him 1st of all that I had been home with the kids all day yesterday without him while he went out and 2nd that today was kind of a "special" day and it would be nice to get some acknowledgement.

Again I'm sorry if you girls don't want me to put this type of stuff in here I'll be more than happy to take it off but I just wanted to get it out and maybe get some opinions.

[zanacal]

I'm with you on all of that Jamie - it's good to have an outside interest but there has to be a balance with family time. My DH is rarely home until just before or after the children have gone to bed but that's because he's working. I would be so cross if it was because he was doing something for pleasure!!

[Jamie86]

I'm with you on all of that Jamie - it's good to have an outside interest but there has to be a balance with family time. My DH is rarely home until just before or after the children have gone to bed but that's because he's working. I would be so cross if it was because he was doing something for pleasure!!

Yeah DH has been blessed with wonderful work hours that allow for him to help a lot with the kids and he is usually really good about it. And he is a very good golfer who has a dream of playing in bigger tournaments than the ones he currently competes in. I guess that is one of the main reason I am so upset, I am very supportive of his dream that many would not be supportive of but he doesn't acknowledge my accomplishments and my dream beyond a "good job babe."

But also hats off to you as well as so many other ladies because I think I might go crazy if DH was working that long each day.

[zanacal]

Oh I'm definitely crazy!! I too forgot to say a big congratulations on passing your exams! What is the subject?

[Mochagirl]

In the summer I sometimes feel like a single parent because my dh works all day then plays in two different baseball leagues that amount to about 3-5 evening games (often over supper/bedtime) a week. I definitely get annoyed!

[Jamie86]

Oh I'm definitely crazy!! I too forgot to say a big congratulations on passing your exams! What is the subject?

It was my last section of the CPA exam, there are 4 sections and I have previously (in the last few months) passed the other 3 and I just passed the audit section. So now after gaining enough working hours I will be a certified public accountant.

[Jamie86]

In the summer I sometimes feel like a single parent because my dh works all day then plays in two different baseball leagues that amount to about 3-5 evening games (often over supper/bedtime) a week. I definitely get annoyed!

I understand that last spring dh decided to play in a softball league as well as 2 gold leagues and had a class he was taking for work one night a week until 9pm. I thought I was going to go nuts!

[HopeandDreamG]

Jamie~ First, I think this is a great place to "vent" and I think I can speak for everyone and say that no one would want you to tale it down! 2nd- HUGE CONGRATS..thats quite an exam what a great accomplishment. You should be very proud. I think we all have different tolerance levels and it seems that often DH's need more relaxation and can tolerate more if they get it. That being said I think your needs of wanting celebration, recognition, and consideration are just as important. We are more likely to get our needs met when we meet others needs. But you need to let others know what your needs are!! If that makes sense!

[zanacal]

I didn't know what CPA was because I'm in the UK! I'm an Accountant too and I did my studying and exams whilst working full time - I have no idea how I'd ever do it with young children! That's a great achievement and definitely worth celebrating :D

[Jamie86]

I didn't know what CPA was because I'm in the UK! I'm an Accountant too and I did my studying and exams whilst working full time - I have no idea how I'd ever do it with young children! That's a great achievement and definitely worth celebrating :D

I always forget to look where others live when I'm on message boards. Yes I knew it would be incredibly difficult to do it with the children and while working so I decided to do it in this time in my life before I started working full time. I actually worked last tax season part time and will be starting a paid internship in January. I guess I'm a little frustrated because no one in my life seems to understand how difficult it was and I'm being a little childish and just wanting some recognition.

[Jamie86]

Jamie~ First, I think this is a great place to "vent" and I think I can speak for everyone and say that no one would want you to tale it down! 2nd- HUGE CONGRATS..thats quite an exam what a great accomplishment. You should be very proud. I think we all have different tolerance levels and it seems that often DH's need more relaxation and can tolerate more if they get it. That being said I think your needs of wanting celebration, recognition, and consideration are just as important. We are more likely to get our needs met when we meet others needs. But you need to let others know what your needs are!! If that makes sense!

That does make sense and I definitely know I should have told him. I'm just having now of those moments where I wish he showed me he was proud of me without me having to tell him to. A couple weeks ago he tied for 1st place in a golf tournament and gave all his winnings to the charity that sponsored the event and I told everyone who would listen and I was just kind of hoping for a little of the same (although I know it's a little silly).

[dannikins]

HUGE CONGRATS ON YOUR BABY GIRL ZANACAL.......:)

you must be so thrilled......!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zanacal]

I am dannikins, thank you!

[sweetsister]

That does make sense and I definitely know I should have told him. I'm just having now of those moments where I wish he showed me he was proud of me without me having to tell him to. A couple weeks ago he tied for 1st place in a golf tournament and gave all his winnings to the charity that sponsored the event and I told everyone who would listen and I was just kind of hoping for a little of the same (although I know it's a little silly).

Congrats Jamie that is a huge accomplishment !And i think you have to tell him how u feel and spell it out what and how you want him to react because men need you to do that he probably doesnt even know you are bothered,i think most men like to be told ?IMO but thats just me i always say i am upset if i am ,,probably should keep more in:)

[rainbowflower]

Congratulations Jamie - I hope you go out and celebrate properly!
Zana - eee!! you lucky thing, does it feel real yet?? :)


AFM - guess I'll be a regular back in here again.... restarting the diet today ready to TTC in Jan, although there are a lot of new babies around lately so I'm feeling broody and we might crumble and have an attempt in a few weeks should I OV around Christmas ;) would only have been on the diet around 3 weeks, but I just have a good feeling.

[amari]

congrats, Jamie!! Wooohooooo! Way to go!!

[Mochagirl]

At what point can you consider spotting af? I'm getting such mixed signals right now and I don't know whether yesterday was CD1 or whether I'm still in the 2WW. As you all know, I've had spotting pretty much through my whole LP - the spotting's always been brown, appears in the morning, and is gone by afternoon. Yesterday I had my normal brown spotting in the morning, then it stopped to be replaced by bright red spotting in the afternoon. There was even a small gush that soaked my liner. It continued red into the evening, then tapered back to brown, and only when I wiped. My cramps were TERRIBLE all day. This morning I woke up to nothing on my pad but very scant brown spotting when I checked my cervix. Then, about an hour later another small gush of bright red - it feels like enough that I need to wear a normal pad. I'm on CD26, which is on the early side for af for me, though not unprecedented.

Here's the weird part - I was hoping my temp would go down today to signal that af had started, but it went UP. Now, it was a strange night where I woke up to pee at 5 thinking it was something more like 2 (otherwise I would have taken my temp then) and ended up waking for the day 45 minutes later and took my temp. Do you think that quick jaunt to the bathroom 45 minutes was enough to raise my temp?

22b67e Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/22b67e/)

If this is af, would I consider yesterday or today CD1? As I said, the red blood yesterday tapered off and turned brown before becoming red again this morning.

[Out of the Blue]

Jamie, vent away! That’s what this thread is for…basically everything! Personally, I’d be ticked too, even if I hadn’t just passed my CPA exam! That’s quite an accomplishment on your part! When you’re feeling like you can have a good conversation w/DH, let him know how you feel. I hope he’ll understand. :HH: Sometimes guys can be kind of, ummm, let’s just say “thick”. They can’t pick up on the nonverbal (and sometimes verbal) signs we’re giving. My DH leaves at 06:30 and is gone until 7 or later most days. It’s tough and some days, I am just ready to either explode or fall asleep on the couch b/c my days are so exhausting. His days are beyond exhausting too, though. Neither of us get much alone time. 

[Out of the Blue]

sweetsister, I'm loving that ticker...:cheer: Are you actually going to wait 5 more days to test???

[rainbowflower]

Mocha - for "normal" cycles you need to ask yourself: do you need to use a towel or liner? If you don't, it's just spotting... BUT saying that, if you had retained tissue it might not be AF either, it could be the retained tissue breaking down or coming out. When my AF returned it was definitely heavier and redder than the spotting had been, but was still quite light flow compared to my normal AFs.

you're right that your temp being higher indicates it's not AF, but it is possible to get AF whilst temps are still high above coverline

unfortunately with this being your first cycle it might be nothing like any of your other cycles ever have been and the next few might be very different too.

[Out of the Blue]

AFM - guess I'll be a regular back in here again.... restarting the diet today ready to TTC in Jan, although there are a lot of new babies around lately so I'm feeling broody and we might crumble and have an attempt in a few weeks should I OV around Christmas ;) would only have been on the diet around 3 weeks, but I just have a good feeling.

Yes...do join us here, even if you're not ready to TTC. We seem to have a lot of fun on this thread!

I'm exciting for you to TTC and I say do what feels right at the time...if it seems right, go for it! A sway is a sway...even Atomic says that you don't necessarily have to be on the diet 6 wks before it sways! :)

[rainbowflower]

Yes...do join us here, even if you're not ready to TTC. We seem to have a lot of fun on this thread!

I'm exciting for you to TTC and I say do what feels right at the time...if it seems right, go for it! A sway is a sway...even Atomic says that you don't necessarily have to be on the diet 6 wks before it sways! :)

thank you :) I'm actually only 3lbs heavier than I was at my lowest (6 weeks ago) and don't have much to lose anyway so perhaps the 6 weeks on the diet before TTC would be too long anyway. Talking myself into this aren't I? ;)

[Out of the Blue]

Mocha, ditto on everything rainbow said...it's just so hard to tell w/this cycle for you. FWIW, I've done temping tests a few times b/c I was curious; I would wake up, take my temp, go pee, jump back in bed for an hr(ish), take my temp again and it would be either the exact same temp or something very close. Read into that what you will. Also, as you know, I'm still hopeful for you...:HH:

[Out of the Blue]

thank you :) I'm actually only 3lbs heavier than I was at my lowest (6 weeks ago) and don't have much to lose anyway so perhaps the 6 weeks on the diet before TTC would be too long anyway. Talking myself into this aren't I? ;)

That's GREAT! If it were me, I would go for it, especially if you feel good about it!

[auroara78]

Rainbow, it would be awesome of you to join us!!

Mocha, your body is giving you confusing signs! The bleeding but then the temp being up....confusing, imo! Hang in there, sweetie!

Jamie, I would be pissed too! My husband likes to play his stupid xbox game "modern warfare 3" and sometimes he carries on his headset and laughs like he's a 20 yer old with nothing better to do. I'm like really? you're a grown 33 year old man with two kids! /hugs, vent away, that's what we're here for! to support and love each other!

[Mochagirl]

rainbowflower: I agree with Jen - if you feel good about having an attempt after only 3 weeks on the diet, go for it! It's nice to have you back as a swaying companion :HH:

My flow is definitely enough for at least a liner - I actually have a proper pad on right now because yesterday I soaked a liner when I had that gush. If it weren't for all this m/c business and the resulting questioning of every sign my body's giving me, I would have put a tampon in yesterday when I had that gush of blood and considered it a light flow and CD1. It's only because I've been spotting contantly and have no idea what's going on that I'm questioning it. I'm also a tampon girl, so I have no idea what a 'light' flow looks like on a pad (sorry if that sounds gross). The pad I've been wearing (a 'regular' thin maxi) has been on for maybe an hour and has definite red blood on it - not drops but a thick red line (soooo sorry for the TMI visual)

My doctor called today to check in on me and wondered why I hadn't booked that follow-up u/s he gave me the requisition for. I explained that I find it emotionally draining to go there and be surrounded by happy pregnant women, so he said he'd look into trying to book me somewhere that doesn't specialize in pregnancies. He also said he could order another blood test for me. I was really hoping to not have another u/s (barring any complications) until I'm pregnant again. Do you think I should follow through and have these tests? Will they be able to tell me anything I don't know already? I'm really sick of being poked and prodded....

[Mochagirl]

Oh, and Jen - I love the idea of temp experiments! I've always wondered myself if getting up in the night changes your temp - like any mom of multiple young children, I'm ALWAYS up several times in the night.

[Mochagirl]

I think if my temp is up again tomorrow I'll use a FRER. I'll be 9dpo, so a BFP wouldn't be unheard of, especially if the spotting that started on 5dpo was IB. I've been scouring charts on FF and also reading symptoms on twoweekwait.com (check out all the BFPs who had lots of spotting/bleeding BFP with Spotting | www.twoweekwait.com (http://www.twoweekwait.com/bfp-with-spotting?page=1)) and I'm seeing that it's POSSIBLE, though quite rare to get a BFP with this much blood. I'd be more hopeful if it weren't for the bright red blood. I'm also super cranky today, and just generally feel like I normally do when I have my period. I realised that I'm CD26 today, which is completely within my 'normal' range to get af.

[Out of the Blue]

WARNING…THIS POST MAY BE TMI!!!

OMG…Last night during our attempt, DS1 (3.5 yrs) burst in as DH was just starting to come. AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! We have one of those kid-proof door handles but DH apparently hadn’t latched the door. DS must have heard us (insert noises here, lol), saw the door ajar and then BOOM!!! Poor DH…he couldn’t stop as he was just starting but far enough along he couldn’t do anything about it. DS couldn’t stop looking and started climbing on the bed. AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I know this has happened to most of you out there but we never thought it would happen to us last night, especially like that (as DH was just starting to make his deposit). AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! DH tried to finish up as best as he could and then went into the bathroom. DS kept saying, “Mama, what are you doing?...What was Dada doing?” He knew he’d seen something forbidden and had this big smirk on his face. I think it opened up a whole new world in his head and he was just fixated on all this new stuff he’d seen and wanted to see more of what Mama and Dada did alone in the bedroom, lol.

After DH put him back to bed again, he kept knocking on the door (which was now closed and very much kid-proof) wanting to talk about what happened and asking us to explain it to his turtle puppet. AHHHHHH!!!!!! WTH???? AHHHHHHH!!!!! Finally, he went to bed! Then this morning when I was dropping him off at school, he brought me up to his teacher and started to say, “Last night, Mama…bla, bla, bla…” I couldn’t quite make it out and started to panic. It turns out he was just telling her that last night, I couldn’t find his monkey scarf to wear in the morning. AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I really hope he forgets about this otherwise when he’s older, he’ll be saying “I saw Mama and Dada making my sister”, lol. Please tell me he’ll forget about this…!!!

[rainbowflower]

you ladies are so nice :)

I've done that too - often I'd get up, BF my DS, and get back in bed and my temp wouldn't have changed. Also it doesn't seem to vary much even if I'm in a light sleep and rolling around. Thirdly it also doesn't seem to change much even if I go downstairs and back up again!

Mocha - how much are private early pregnancy scans where you are? Perhaps you should have this ultrasound now to know what is happening to your retained tissue, to measure your lining thickness (and perhaps to look at your ovaries)
and then book a self-funded early scan when you do get your BFP anyway?

[rainbowflower]

LOL Jen!!! How embarrassing ;)

[Out of the Blue]

My doctor called today to check in on me and wondered why I hadn't booked that follow-up u/s he gave me the requisition for. I explained that I find it emotionally draining to go there and be surrounded by happy pregnant women, so he said he'd look into trying to book me somewhere that doesn't specialize in pregnancies. He also said he could order another blood test for me. I was really hoping to not have another u/s (barring any complications) until I'm pregnant again. Do you think I should follow through and have these tests? Will they be able to tell me anything I don't know already? I'm really sick of being poked and prodded....

Mocha, I say don't get the u/s unless you really want it. Your body knows what it's doing and is taking care of business whether that means resuming the m/c, resuming your natural cycle or starting your new bean. That's why I didn't go back to my doc...I didn't see the need and she understood.

[Mochagirl]

:omg: Jen :rofl:. We've almost been caught before, but never as badly as you did. I'm really sorry to be laughing when I know you're traumatized, but thanks - I really needed a laugh today when I'm feeling so depressed :oops:. How old is ds again? Don't worry - I'm sure he'll forget. Just tell him you and dh were having a tickle fight or something.

[Mochagirl]

Mocha - how much are private early pregnancy scans where you are? Perhaps you should have this ultrasound now to know what is happening to your retained tissue, to measure your lining thickness (and perhaps to look at your ovaries)
and then book a self-funded early scan when you do get your BFP anyway?

I think they're just in the midst of changing the laws in Canada to allow private diagnostic scans. I looked on the website for the place I'd been thinking of going for a private gender scan and they have a notice that 'soon' they'll be offering diagnostic scans for early pregnancy as well. If they become available soon enough, I'll do it for sure! There's no way I can wait until 11 weeks to know that my baby's ok!

[Mochagirl]

Mocha, I say don't get the u/s unless you really want it. Your body knows what it's doing and is taking care of business whether that means resuming the m/c, resuming your natural cycle or starting your new bean. That's why I didn't go back to my doc...I didn't see the need and she understood.

My instinct is telling me the same thing....but at the same time a small part of me is worried that all this bleeding is due to some retained tissue and I can't get pregnant again until it's gone. I'd hate to wait 3 weeks only to find out THEN that this is the case and have to delay TTC even longer. Oh well, I'm going to wait until Monday to make the appt anyway, and maybe by then I'll have a better idea what's going on.

[Out of the Blue]

:omg: Jen :rofl:. We've almost been caught before, but never as badly as you did. I'm really sorry to be laughing when I know you're traumatized, but thanks - I really needed a laugh today when I'm feeling so depressed :oops:. How old is ds again? Don't worry - I'm sure he'll forget. Just tell him you and dh were having a tickle fight or something.

DS is 3.5...I think it would be waaaaaay worse in about 2 yrs. I think DH is the most traumatized. He even said, "You're going to type this up tomorrow and share it w/your swaying friends, aren't you?"...:rofl: I said, "Of course!".

Regarding the "tickle fight"....Yeah....don't think so. Looked NOTHING like a tickle fight and certainly didn't sound like one either.

[rainbowflower]

wait a sec, you're saying you can't have an early scan to check on a pregnancy (for non-gender purposes) over there at the moment?? :omg: or are you saying you'd have wanted to save up your scan to use at a time when you might be able to see the nub?

[Out of the Blue]

My instinct is telling me the same thing....but at the same time a small part of me is worried that all this bleeding is due to some retained tissue and I can't get pregnant again until it's gone. I'd hate to wait 3 weeks only to find out THEN that this is the case and have to delay TTC even longer. Oh well, I'm going to wait until Monday to make the appt anyway, and maybe by then I'll have a better idea what's going on.

:HH: :( :hugs:

[auroara78]

I'm feeling down in the dumps this morning...

So I tested this morning even though I KNEW I shouldn't have...(I need to start listening to that "voice" in my head, lol)

and it was still BFN @ 12 dpo...Sigh...anyone get a late BFP? I was using First Response early detection so I dunno, I think I'm out. My period isn't due until Tuesday, so I'm gonna try to stop testing since it bums me out and just see if AF comes.../sigh

A pychic emailed me today from IG and said she saw girl for me in the futre, and guesed I had two boys. She doesn't go on IG anymore so I had to email her, and she also sensed my husband's reluctance/indifference about TTC, and she saw some money issues had held me back from having baby 2 for a while. She said: " I honestly felt it may take a bit longer (to get number 3) but thats just instinct."

Sigh...hope that means I'll get lucky in Dec. I do feel good about a Christmas attempt giving me a baby girl. Now I gotta think: do I want to deal with Rephresh again? it irrirated the crap out of me, but kept my ph at 4.5...which was beautiful and killed my EWCM, which I usually have a ton of....if I do rephresh again, I would definitely try to BD at least twice, since I feel the rephresh might make it harder for the sperm..../sigh

How can I tell my husband all I want for Christmas Day is his penis, gift wrapped, and mine for however many attempts I want at it!! haha

[Out of the Blue]

I'm feeling down in the dumps this morning...

So I tested this morning even though I KNEW I shouldn't have...(I need to start listening to that "voice" in my head, lol)

and it was still BFN @ 12 dpo...Sigh...anyone get a late BFP? I was using First Response early detection so I dunno, I think I'm out. My period isn't due until Tuesday, so I'm gonna try to stop testing since it bums me out and just see if AF comes.../sigh

A pychic emailed me today from IG and said she saw girl for me in the futre, and guesed I had two boys. She doesn't go on IG anymore so I had to email her, and she also sensed my husband's reluctance/indifference about TTC, and she saw some money issues had held me back from having baby 2 for a while. She said: " I honestly felt it may take a bit longer (to get number 3) but thats just instinct."

Sigh...hope that means I'll get lucky in Dec. I do feel good about a Christmas attempt giving me a baby girl. Now I gotta think: do I want to deal with Rephresh again? it irrirated the crap out of me, but kept my ph at 4.5...which was beautiful and killed my EWCM, which I usually have a ton of....if I do rephresh again, I would definitely try to BD at least twice, since I feel the rephresh might make it harder for the sperm..../sigh

How can I tell my husband all I want for Christmas Day is his penis, gift wrapped, and mine for however many attempts I want at it!! haha

Awww...:hug2: Have you used this website? Symptoms by Day Past Ovulation | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test/results-by-day-past-ovulation.php) This may give you some hope!

Which one on IG? Was it IC1111? Just curious...she'd said "girl" for me too and also said something about her being a twin soul (I lost both). I thought her predictions were pretty good!

Regarding the RepHresh, maybe you'll be healed up in there and it won't do that to you this time...???

Just tell DH that's what you want for Christmas! I tell my DH that everyday as I'm chasing him around the house and trying to drag him up to bed, lol!

:fx: for you!!!

[Mochagirl]

wait a sec, you're saying you can't have an early scan to check on a pregnancy (for non-gender purposes) over there at the moment?? :omg: or are you saying you'd have wanted to save up your scan to use at a time when you might be able to see the nub?

In Canada, with a 'normal' pregnancy, scans are covered by our government-funded medicare for 11 weeks and 20 weeks. It's entirely possible if you're under the care of an OB you can request more scans than that, and I know for sure that high risk pregnancies get more scans than that. With my twins, after my first 11 week scan when I found out there were two babies, they started scanning me every week to keep an eye on them. If I'd known I had twins earlier than that I'm sure they would have given me early scans as well.

Since I use a midwife, the general procedure is - call them when you get pregnant to book your first appointment for about 10 weeks. Then you just sit and wait and hope that things are ok. When you finally meet with them, they book your 11 week NT scan if you want one. Since I'd never had a m/c before now, the 10 week wait was frustrating, but not scary. This time things will be different. Again, if I had an OB maybe I could request an earlier scan, but a midwife doesn't even meet and talk to you until you're 10 weeks along. Since my non-OB family doctor is taking such an interest in my case, though, he might be willing to requisition an early u/s after I get my BFP if I tell him how nervous I am. He's kind of clueless in the world of obstetrics and does whatever I ask of him! :rofl:

[rainbowflower]

that's a lot like it is here then the NHS fund the basics; a dating scan (11-13 weeks) then a scan to check for anomolys at 20 weeks. If you have pregnancy/growth issues, suspected ectopic or MC, multiples, or have had multiple MCs you get additional scans... but it's not common and they offer them reluctantly. We also book in with a MW at around 8 weeks and they sort out the scan.

there are private clinics here, though, where you can pay for additional scans on your own. You still get your normal NHS scans on top and it's all separate. I booked an early reassurance scan with my first pregnancy, they did it at 9 weeks and we paid £60. That pregnancy didn't end well, but it was still nice to have the scan and keep the pictures (treasure them now). Perhaps if you do want an early scan to check for a heartbeat it's an option for you to get that privately?

[Mochagirl]

We only have one local private u/s place, and they're the ones that say that 'soon' they'll offer diagnostic scans, but they don't offer them yet. I'll just hope they implement them on time for me!

[auroara78]

And Jen, OMG hilarious story about last night!
I commend him for still finishing, and omg, I would have freaked out esp. since the son was talking about "last night"...
ROFL, so funny!
Sorry to be laughing so much at it....it's one of those cosmicly terrible but funny things!

[auroara78]

And Jen, if I tell my husband we have to have sex lots because I'll be ovulating, his penis will droop so low he won't be able to get it up for another month! LOL

I'll just have to keep seducing him and I guess act like I can't get enough of him so that's why I have to keep "having him" and all that mumbo jumbo...geez, I'll have to pull out the best acting job I can, LOL.

[Mochagirl]

And Jen, if I tell my husband we have to have sex lots because I'll be ovulating, his penis will droop so low he won't be able to get it up for another month! LOL

I'll just have to keep seducing him and I guess act like I can't get enough of him so that's why I have to keep "having him" and all that mumbo jumbo...geez, I'll have to pull out the best acting job I can, LOL.

:rofl: My dh is similar, auroara - though since I NEVER initiate sex (I have a pretty low libido) he always guesses what's going on when I start wanting to dtd.

[lemon2012]

Hi girls,
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the rephresh and frequent bding vs release.

We are out this month...I am on cd 4.
We tried 0-2,0-1 and o with frequent compressed release before and rephresh.
Nothing!
What should I drop?
rephresh?
FR?
Also, how many times shld we bd?
I am so confused! I really thought it would happen by now!

aurora? out of the blue? maybeoneday?
What are your sway plans? If you are not BFP!

[Mochagirl]

lemon - I replied to your PM as well, but I think if you want to change things up and drop one thing I'd drop the rephresh. Either that or use way less of it. As I said, I wasn't able to get pregnant until I dropped it, though I may use just a teeny amount this time so I don't have any regrets for having a bad sway.

[auroara78]

Yeah, I'm seriously contempating dropping it as I think I'm allergic to it and I'm almost 200% positive it prevented me from getting pregnant...sigh, but then I'll have the whole PH issue to deal with, as my ph is normally high 5's....not that I don't want another boy or wouldn't love him to pieces (I would totally love him, I already got his name picked out), but I was trying to tip the odds to favor girl sperm...I dunno anymore, part of me just wants my family complete, and the other part of me wants to do it "right" and do a proper "girl" sway so I won't have any regrets in the end....

BLAH!

[auroara78]

Lemon and all the other BFNers, let's all come together for a :hugs:

[Mochagirl]

I know, auroara - it's a tough balance between wanting to sway so you have no regrets, and wanting to actually get pregnant. Last time I ended up dropping everything but the diet, Vitex and antihistamines and I got my BFP...but then I had my regrets that I hadn't swayed hard enough. I don't know what I'll do for my next attempt...

Now to continue the saga of Mochagirl's confusing body signals...I just went to the bathroom and there was no new blood on my pad. When I went to check my cervix, I found reddish-brown tinged EWCM. WTF?? My cervix is starting to soften a bit and is slightly open, whereas it's been firm and tightly closed since O happened (if it actually did happen). Maybe I didn't really O last week and now my body's gearing up to try again? I'm going to hold my pee for the next 4 hours so I can do an OPK to see what it says.

[zanacal]

Mocha, I'm with Jen and still keeping the hope alive for this month. I'm pretty sure my cervix re-opened close to when AF was due on the month I got my BFP because it made me think I had been imagining all my symptoms!

Jen - I nearly wet myself reading your story! DS1 was looking at me and saying 'what?' because I was cracking up so much! I'm so sorry, that must have been so uncomfortable for you both!

Regarding the Rephresh, I wonder if the best approach is to use a whole applicator but only every 3 days. Perhaps that would be less irritating than using less but putting it up there every day. If you're only having 1 or 2 attempts you could try and time it so that you're not using it too close to your attempt/s if you're concerned about using it too much.

[Out of the Blue]

And Jen, OMG hilarious story about last night!
I commend him for still finishing, and omg, I would have freaked out esp. since the son was talking about "last night"...
ROFL, so funny!
Sorry to be laughing so much at it....it's one of those cosmicly terrible but funny things!

Auroara, DH knew if he didn't finish, he'd be in trouble…:mad: At the moment, I was just like, hurry up and make your deposit, dude! I'm terrible, I know!

[Out of the Blue]

Lemon, I was wondering where you were! I'm so sorry you’re out this time! :sad: I agree w/Mocha…I’d go easy on the RepHresh. Are you doing J&D? I can’t remember. If so, you may want to wait a few min before you dump.

[Out of the Blue]

Mocha, :fx: for you...So sorry this cycle is so darn confusing!

[maybeoneday]

ootb, I am sorry for the intrusion at the key moment by your son, but it really is very funny! I am sure he will forget in no time and you can make up a story about it! - I have a friend who caught his parents at it and he was 19 - think he was far more traumatised!!

Mocha, I am sorry your body is still being confusing.... See how it goes over the weekend, then make your decision. At least it would hopefully put your mind at rest that all is well and you can TTC to your heart's content!

Auroara, sorry for the BFN, you are not out yet but hugs anyway. xx

Lemon, also sorry for the BFN. It is so hard knowing what to drop for the best, I really do understand. I have dropped the rephresh and didn't really like it! Made my CM all lumpy IYKWIM??

This month DH released 5 times in 3 days and release 2, 4 and 5 were in me. I had a +OPK on days 2 and 3, so FX I have done enough this month. I continued to take Vitex AF to O but stoppe the SP as I ran out!

GL for your next attempt will keep me FX for you. xx

[dannikins]

haha, sorry jen but that is funny.
i have had kids walk in on us, but not at the end like that.....so its easier to cover up what your doing, and usually they are still half asleep and not too aware of whats happening.

my sister i feel sorry for, she is 14, and her bedroom is right up against my muns, and when my mother and her BF are at it, she can hear everything.....

[amari]

I've been packing all day, that story is hilarious and horrifying, Jen!

Everyone else I will try and catch up soon! Gotta get ready for the trip some more... xoxo

[lemon2012]

I think it was the rephesh but I really only used a small amount!
I think I need to dtd deep and not shallow (although last month dh thought it was o plus 12,...yes, he knows the lingo and everything!!!) and we did deep....not really meaning to j and d but I have to leave for work at 715 am! So, likely it came out....????

Z says to try 2-3 days before attempt and full rephresh. I think I might try that.
Just concerned about number of attempts. I don't want to leave it at one attempt and be filled with regrets but I also don't want to sway blue and then be filled with regret.

[lemon2012]

Ootb...are you still bding?
How is it going?
did you o? I think you were bding everyday right?

[lemon2012]

Lemon and all the other BFNers, let's all come together for a :hugs:

HUGS to all of us!!!!

Auroara......I am EXACTLY the same!!!!
I am not allergic and did not mind the rephresh but replens made things clumpy and painful.
I want to be pregnant but I want to know I did the best I could.......but, I am getting desperate now.
Do you think number of bding changes outcome?
Should I bd a lot to get pregnant? Does that sway boy?
So confused and I just want to relax and enjoy Christmas.
I o in about 10 days!!!
Anyone else?
Any advice?

Oh and to top if off I had soup....prob high in sodium! DS1 is getting a cold and we are having friends over tomorrow. There goes the diet!

[lemon2012]

ootb.....just read your post.
Oh dear! That will be tough for you and DH to get over as well......!!!
But I am still smiling....he is young and they do get over things like this and really it just shows mommy and daddy love each other:)
And besides, let's hope he saw mommy and daddy making sister:) YEAH!

How are things going? Are you still using rephresh everyday,.....I ask bc I am contemplating it for next attempt. Drop it or use it...?
The diet is off....I can't do it and survive especially with Christmas!

PS: are you Jen? I keep seeing sites with jen and wonder who that is!

[lemon2012]

dannikins......You are 14 weeks! How do you feel?
Will you find out gender? How are the other kids with the new baby on the way?

[lemon2012]

ootb, I am sorry for the intrusion at the key moment by your son, but it really is very funny! I am sure he will forget in no time and you can make up a story about it! - I have a friend who caught his parents at it and he was 19 - think he was far more traumatised!!

Mocha, I am sorry your body is still being confusing.... See how it goes over the weekend, then make your decision. At least it would hopefully put your mind at rest that all is well and you can TTC to your heart's content!

Auroara, sorry for the BFN, you are not out yet but hugs anyway. xx

Lemon, also sorry for the BFN. It is so hard knowing what to drop for the best, I really do understand. I have dropped the rephresh and didn't really like it! Made my CM all lumpy IYKWIM??

This month DH released 5 times in 3 days and release 2, 4 and 5 were in me. I had a +OPK on days 2 and 3, so FX I have done enough this month. I continued to take Vitex AF to O but stoppe the SP as I ran out!

GL for your next attempt will keep me FX for you. xx

maybeoneday can you tell me more about your attempt?
you say he had 5 releases in 3 days,...what was the timing and did he abstain before etc.
what day are you????
I am cd 4 and planning next week!

[HopeandDreamG]

Lemon and all the other BFNers, let's all come together for a :hugs:

Is there room for 1 more. BFN for sure. :(

[lemon2012]

Hope I am sooooooo sorry!:hugs:
What happened? Your temps suggested pg.
I hope you are okay!

PS: I am sorry, I realized I just posted a billion messages in a row!
When it rains it pours...or in Canada, snows...lol

Let's get some good girly BFP before Christmas or on Christmas:)

[dannikins]

im good thanks...:)
had my OB appointment yesterday and all is good.
my next scan is in 4 weeks. second week in jan.
i have been planning on waiting untill the birth to find out the gender, but this last couple of weeks, i dont think i will wait that long....

hubby wants to know, hes sure its a girl and wants to buy stuff.....lol..
im still trying to convince myself its another boy, to avoid disappointment, but im not having much luck there either, i have been getting my hopes up, and im terrified of having them shattered......

the worse of it is when people ask the stupid , obvious question, 'do you want a girl this time?'
OF COURSE I DO!!!!!!
but i find my self putting on a big smile and pretending i dont care what it is.

the kids are good with it. a bit excited, my five year old has fat issues.....lol..
walking home from school last week and said, 'mum, you need to stop eating too much food, your getting fat.'...lmao.
and then a few days later at school, was kissing him goodbye, and he gave me a funny look and said' mum, your belly is getting really fat.'

and he keeps asking me 'when is the baby gunna come out?' and constantly asking to listen to the heartbeat, hes a real little mother....loves babies and cute stuff.

[pinkin2011]

Hi Girls I am wanting to join you all in hopes of a bfp soon, will be trying start of jan so I really hope it happens ... For ALL of us! I started using rephresh this cycle and what a dif it made I had low ph ewcm didnt go over 4.5 I am so happy about that so will be using it for this attempt.. How is everyone else going??

[Mochagirl]

Sorry for the BFN, HopeandDream - I'm pretty sure I can officially join the BFN club tomorrow since I *think* maybe today was CD1 (the red bleeding continued pretty much all day). I'll see what my temp is tomorrow and will take a test if it's high, but all symptoms point to af.

[rainbowflower]

Is there room for 1 more. BFN for sure. :(
you're not out yet - temps are still high and you're past your LP length, it's not over until the witch shows


pinkin - welcome!! good to know that RepHresh works so well for you. I'll be using it but don't think I'll be testing pH to see if/how much it has worked.

maybe- good luck! sounds like well timed BDing

[zanacal]

I'm sorry Hope, I had high hopes for you this month. I'm still hopeful it ain't over for you this month yet!

lemon - how many times to DTD is a tricky one because it really is a fine balance between lowering sperm count enough and getting pregnant. For me and DH, I felt it was super important to only have one attempt - because we've always got pregnant first attempt (3rd with DS2 but I was BFing) with boys and with him frequent releasing. He also has super high pH. We were extremely lucky to get pregnant with just one attempt with lowered sperm count from the extreme frequent releasing and a Jump and Dump and I'm not sure what our plan would have been if we hadn't got pregnant. I suspect I would have dropped the Jump and Dump and then reduced the amount of releasing before adding in more attempts but we're all different - we all have different levels of fertility, some of us are more concerned about getting pregnant quickly etc. so you have to do what feels right for you.

[Mochagirl]

My temp was way down today almost to my coverline and I'm still bleeding, so I think I'm officially out for the month. I'm hoping I can consider yesterday CD1 since I had a light flow almost all day, but I'm thinking since my temp didn't go down until today this should be CD1. What do you all think?

We leave for Nova Scotia on the 22nd and I normally ovulate between CD13 and 16. If today's CD1 then I should O between the 22nd and the 25th - If I O on the 22nd or earlier I'll be done our attempts before we leave, but if it comes later I don't know what I'll do. I suppose at least I should be happy that I'll only have a few bad days on the diet around O now instead of a whole week. I thought maybe af wouldn't come until mid-week next week, which would have meant I'd be away for the entire week leading up to O eating MIL's meat-filled meals.

[Mochagirl]

Ok, I decided to call today's bleeding 'light', so now FF gave me a new chart with today as CD1. I hope that's right! It feels good to have a fresh start - hopefully once af is done the spotting will stop as well. I almost wish the flow was heavier, though - I would feel like I have a better chance of getting everything out of there.

I did cave and take an HPT this morning, and all it did is make me more confused. There was no line, but if I held it up to JUST the right light, I could see a shadow where the second line should be. I took the test (a FRER) right apart to check and noticed that on the actual testing part there's an indent where the second line should go - I opened another old test and saw the same thing. Do you think I was just seeing the shadow from that indent? I want to start taking Vitex again, but I'm afraid to if there's even the slightest chance I might be preggo.

[maybeoneday]

maybeoneday can you tell me more about your attempt?
you say he had 5 releases in 3 days,...what was the timing and did he abstain before etc.
what day are you????
I am cd 4 and planning next week!

Hi Lemon, I am by no means an expert but I will of course fill you in on my plan for this month!!! Usually DH releases from CD1 through to +OPK (about day 14) then we DTD but I was finding I wasn't getting pregnant so decided to change things a bit....

DH was actually away with work in the States for a few days during AF, so did not start to release daily until CD6. He then released daily until CD 13 when he released himself then we DTD. Day 14 (+OPK), he released once, then we DTD again then Day 15 (+OPK), we DTD again (without a release first as he said it might fall off...... :) ) I am now 8DPO and hoping to hold off till Monday to test but may cave tomorrow evening.. Will let you know! I definately feel more tired at the moment and have sensitive boobs, so who knows! Good luck with your attempt. xx

[lemon2012]

Hi Lemon, I am by no means an expert but I will of course fill you in on my plan for this month!!! Usually DH releases from CD1 through to +OPK (about day 14) then we DTD but I was finding I wasn't getting pregnant so decided to change things a bit....

DH was actually away with work in the States for a few days during AF, so did not start to release daily until CD6. He then released daily until CD 13 when he released himself then we DTD. Day 14 (+OPK), he released once, then we DTD again then Day 15 (+OPK), we DTD again (without a release first as he said it might fall off...... :) ) I am now 8DPO and hoping to hold off till Monday to test but may cave tomorrow evening.. Will let you know! I definately feel more tired at the moment and have sensitive boobs, so who knows! Good luck with your attempt. xx

Hey Maybe...thanks for the info!
Aren't we all experts...lol! Seriously I wish I did not know as much!
Did you use any rephresh or anything?

So basically DH did release cd 6 to 13,...released and DTD 13, release and DTD 14 and then DTD 15???
How long after release did you DTD?
Did you o on cd 15? I gather since it was the second day of pos OPK right? Did you get a temp dip?

It sounds like my attempt last month...compressed fr from cd 8 to 10, release and DTD, release and dtd, then dtd on o day...I think, my temp dipped that day. BFN:( but I think it was the fact that it was shallow and I used rephresh a bit and one day actually used rephresh douche before so I made it very hard to succeed...???? Or, I am not that fertile and this will take a lot longer even on o day!

How long have you tried?
I also felt something at cd 8 or so and even up until AF...I had very noticeable PMS. I hope it is BFP for you!
Do you temp as well?

THANKS AND GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!

[rainbowflower]

Mocha - sounds sensible, I've had tests that I've done that have been negative but I can also see the shadow where the line would be and I think it was the indent too. If it had colour, it's a genuine VFP, if it's colourless it's more than likely an evap or the indent




My little boy is one year old now! We've had a lovely birthday for him today, I can't believe it's gone so quickly... and I can't believe love can feel like this. I think I'm addicted!

[Mochagirl]

My bleeding's continued all day today without a break, so I think it's safe to assume that HPT really was negative and this is af. I certainly hope so, because I bought some wine to have with dh tonight! I'm feeling a little better now that I'm at CD1 - it's a fresh start, and hopefully a less confusing cycle. Only 2 weeks or less (hopefully) until I O!

A question for the ladies who've had losses - did your O after your first af come at the regular time?

[Mochagirl]

There's no mistaking now that this is my period - the flow's quite heavy now. Phew! I'm so relieved to finally know what's going on. I guess that means I should start back on the Vitex and peppermint tea....

[rainbowflower]

have a relaxing evening
yes, I OV'ed on CD10 after my first AF - unusual for me as I normally used to OV late

[Mochagirl]

Woohoo! That gives me hope, rainbowflower! An early O would be fantastic because it means we could do our attempt while we're still at home!

[maybeoneday]

So basically DH did release cd 6 to 13,...released and DTD 13, release and DTD 14 and then DTD 15???
How long after release did you DTD?
Did you o on cd 15? I gather since it was the second day of pos OPK right? Did you get a temp dip?

It sounds like my attempt last month...compressed fr from cd 8 to 10, release and DTD, release and dtd, then dtd on o day...I think, my temp dipped that day. BFN:( but I think it was the fact that it was shallow and I used rephresh a bit and one day actually used rephresh douche before so I made it very hard to succeed...???? Or, I am not that fertile and this will take a lot longer even on o day!

How long have you tried?
I also felt something at cd 8 or so and even up until AF...I had very noticeable PMS. I hope it is BFP for you!
Do you temp as well?

THANKS AND GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!

I didn't use Rephresh as didn't really like it and ran out so didn't buy any more!

I don't temp as find it a bit stressful and never really got on with it so I just rely on OPKs. I only usually get one day of +OPK, then ovulate the next day, so in getting 2 days, I am not sure when I ovulated but it may have been day 15 (which only makes me 8DPO today).

We DTD a couple of hours after the releases to give DH time to recharge (his words...)

We are on month 3 of TTC and if not pregnant this month will take a break till after Christmas, then do a hardcore 6 weeks on the diet and attempt again!

Good luck and let us know what you decide. xx

[lemon2012]

Thanks maybe!
8 dpo!
2 more days to test right?
I REALLY HOPE YOU GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I was right with how many times you bd....?????
DH is sick of me talking about it...lol!

You girls will love this...and yes, he is quite aware of my desires!
Here is DH's sway:
He says he will lock me in our room and just provide rice and water and then when it is time he will boil his "ahem", smoke several packs of cigarettes, drink a bottle of scotch,,,,then, you will love this, hammer his "goodies" and then provide a deposit. hahahhaha,...clearly he is fed up! lmao!
ENJOY his humour!
If I don't get pregnant, I might be locked in my room anyway...lol!

So, plan is....no plan!
CLEARLY!
Christmas is coming, we are tired and we want to relax...!
So, we have to make sure it counts.
He will not frequent release but maybe release and then hours later we can dtd???? Last month releasing then ttc did not get us pregnant. I am getting older and we need to complete our family!

So, suggestions...bc DH's plan is horrible......lol!

[Out of the Blue]

Wow! After being gone for 2 days, I've got a lot to catch up on! Hoping someone got a BFP this weekend...??? :fingers:

Well, we've been doing a great job keeping up w/the BD...so much so that on Sat we ended up doing it 2x. Things got a bit hot and I sort of got into it too much. :oops: I ended up w/a big O but at least it was before DH had his. I guess that makes it better (?)...oh, well. My temp went up a bit today but not the spike I was hoping for so I may O today or tomorrow (???) or I may end up not even Oing this cycle at all. If I don't get a BFP this time, it wasn't for a lack of trying, lol!
We'll probably give it a go tonight as well although maybe we shouldn't since I've been enjoying it too much lately...:flowerz:

[auroara78]

LOL, Jen @ "enjoying it too much lately"

On Sat afternoon, as DS2 napped and DS1 was totally engrossed in a movie, my husband lured me to the bedroom under false pretenses for some sex. So we had sex. It was OK, wasn't in the mood (was two days from AF, not at feeling anything and still upset about BFN again).

So we finish, we get up, I make him coffee, etc etc I'm lazying around on the couch trying to read a book while DS1 still watching a movie on the computer and I tell DH that I'm really "tired" today, and he says "maybe its because your egg is being fertilized" I tell him, "Ummm, I'm not ovulating, but thanks for the thought." LOL

Then yesterday, I tell him that I'm frustrated over the BFNs (I confess and tell him about the 3 negative pregnancy tests), and he says "but you're ovulating? I saw the test lying around, and I knew you'd need the big guns ready."

Hmmm? A negative pregnancy test makes an ovulation test? LOL, seriously, sometimes men crack me up. I guess he didn't read the box that says for a pos ovulation test it needs two lines, not one line???

LOL, at least he tried. I guess he thought he was being brave by having sex with me (and starting it) when he thought I was ovulating!!! Haha, how romantic!!

I think I've decided that I'm going to use Rephresh I'll do more than one attempt, since my one attempt + full applicator of Rephresh = BFN, though our attempt had been on a Sunday and the full applicator of Rephresh had gone in late Friday night....still trying decide on a sway plan for our Christmas attempt, since I should be O'ing on Christmas Day!

[auroara78]

So far my thoughts for my sway in Dec. include:

peppermint tea, lower calories, working out, IF I use rephresh (2-3 attempts before O), if no represh, ONE attempt, lots of negative ions, will be new moon, in a girl sign (I figure the moon stuff can't hurt since it's all working out for me in favor of a 'girl')

and if I do concieve, how cool will it be that the baby would be created on Christmas Day! And Sept. is such a beautiful month to have a birthday in! (I'm trying to get my gears switched to thinking more 'positively' now)

[rainbowflower]

auroara - I like the thought of that! I'm expecting to OV some time between Christmas and New Year and September is my IDEAL month to have a baby too so it would be just perfect.... PMA!

[auroara78]

rainbowflower,

so glad you're joining us for a december attempt!! Hopefully we'll get some beautiful BFPs in January!

[Out of the Blue]

Then yesterday, I tell him that I'm frustrated over the BFNs (I confess and tell him about the 3 negative pregnancy tests), and he says "but you're ovulating? I saw the test lying around, and I knew you'd need the big guns ready."

Hmmm? A negative pregnancy test makes an ovulation test? LOL, seriously, sometimes men crack me up. I guess he didn't read the box that says for a pos ovulation test it needs two lines, not one line???

LOL, at least he tried. I guess he thought he was being brave by having sex with me (and starting it) when he thought I was ovulating!!! Haha, how romantic!!

TOO FUNNY!!! Your DH is really sweet!

I'm hoping the RepHresh works for you this time. O'ing on Christmas sounds very auspicious!!! I think your plan sounds great! I really wish I was working out for this sway but I know it would be a real struggle to keep it up enough to sway pink. GOOD FOR YOU!!!

[Out of the Blue]

Rainbow, I'm really excited for your 1st attempt! BTW, belated Happy B-Day to your son. The 1st B-Day is really a big one, especially when it's your 1st LO turning 1 year. Such a wonderful and bittersweet thing. :HH:

[Mochagirl]

I'm glad I have so much wonderful company in my December sway. I'm hoping for pink September bundles for all of us! :HH:

[auroara78]

Oh, Mocha, wouldn't that be awesome!! I keep thinking about getting like a mother's ring or necklace when I'm thru having kids, and the sapphire would look so cool in it :P I'd have the diamond/cubia Z for April (DS2) and I guess rose quartz or opal? (October for DS1) and then sapphire would look so neat with it...hehe I'm getting ahead of myself but it'd be sooooo cool if all of us got preggers at end of month / early next month and ended up with gorgeous september bundles of *pink* hopefully!

Also, I really want to hurry up and get a BFP becuz if our late Dec Christmas attempt is a NO, I will be skipping Jan, as I don't want my two kids to share a birth month if possible!

[dannikins]

my big scan has been booked for the 12th of jan!!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

My bleeding's continued all day today without a break, so I think it's safe to assume that HPT really was negative and this is af. I certainly hope so, because I bought some wine to have with dh tonight! I'm feeling a little better now that I'm at CD1 - it's a fresh start, and hopefully a less confusing cycle. Only 2 weeks or less (hopefully) until I O!

A question for the ladies who've had losses - did your O after your first af come at the regular time?

Mocha you can check out my O charts. The very first one was the first AF after loss. It's august. Had O regularly since. Check it out if you like.

[HopeandDreamG]

[QUOTE=zanacal;112110]I'm sorry Hope, I had high hopes for you this month. I'm still hopeful it ain't over for you this month yet!

Thanks Z. I'm definitely out though. Had a blood test to confirm. Really disappointed bc noe I'm in a crohns flare which makes me not even able to ttc for December. Feeling a little better will start fresh for January. Our sways where so similar. Glad you heard pink!!!

[Mochagirl]

Mocha you can check out my O charts. The very first one was the first AF after loss. It's august. Had O regularly since. Check it out if you like.

Thanks, HopeandDream - I did check them out. One question - I notice that for the two cycles after your loss you O'd around day 16-17, but in your Nov cycle you O'd on day 12. Which one of those is 'normal' for you? Did you find you O'd later than usual on the first couple of cycles after your loss? I'm reeeeeaaallly praying for an early O because our attempts are going to become logistically difficult once we leave for our trip on the 22nd.

I also notice you had a short af in August - just 3 days of heavy bleeding? Today is my third day of real flow, and it's definitely tapering off. I think it will just be light tomorrow and hopefully disappear shortly after that.

[pinkin2011]

Today I went to the dr for a check up and I told him I am ttc again , He is our family dr and a very good one... He laughed and said well I can already tell you the gender it will be a boy he said coming from your husbands family there are only boys and he laughed.. My 3 yr old son then went on to say I want a baby sister which he always says and my dr laughed at him and said yes maybe oneday. I always read so much into what everyone says now i feel like giving up as my MIL believes I will never get a girl and tells me not to even mention anything about having a baby girl because its just not going to happen.. Really upset my day it has! So I had a cheese and bacon roll for lunch and now I feel worse!!!! I just feel like whats the point putting myself thru this not just the diet but the stress of everything else that goes with it when I will get another boy anyway. Sorry but I am just down about it all now..

[Jamie86]

It seems a lot of girl sways I'm seeing only involve one attempt but I really want to do more than one. Will this "cancel out" the sperm lowering measures (frequent release, rephresh etc) or are others doing this as well?

[Mochagirl]

pinkin - sorry you had a rough day. That's very insensitive of your doctor and MIL to say that. My brother's like that - he always jokes that I'm going to end up with a troop of boys if I keep trying to have a girl. Try not to feel down. Lots of boy moms get their girl against supposedly unsurmountable odds. :HH:

[Mochagirl]

It seems a lot of girl sways I'm seeing only involve one attempt but I really want to do more than one. Will this "cancel out" the sperm lowering measures (frequent release, rephresh etc) or are others doing this as well?

I think it probably depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant. Personally, I'm older (37) and after this m/c particularly want to be pregnant again ASAP, so I'm not going to leave it to one attempt. It took us 4 months to get pregnant last summer, and that was with sometimes up to 7 attempts in one month, so I don't like my odds of getting pregnant with one attempt.

I think I remember you saying you're young? Maybe one attempt would be enough for you.

For me, my big question is whether to do fr or rephresh or both. Last summer we didn't get pregnant until we dropped the rephresh. I wonder if frequent release in combo with rephresh and all the other stuff we do to lower sperm count was just too much for dh's aging sperm. I think we'll either do frequent release with no rephresh, or not do fr but use rephresh. So many decisions....

[pinkin2011]

thanks Mocha I just want to prove everyone wrong I so wish I could.Why cant they just keep their comments and thoughts to themself.. I have been doing so well on this sdiet I am also finding around my nails the skin is peeling and I heard that is from a diet lacking in vitamins. wounder how true that is. should be true anyway because i pretty much eat the same thing everyday!!!!!!!!!!!! How are you going anyway Mocha when are you due for your next attempt?

[rainbowflower]

It seems a lot of girl sways I'm seeing only involve one attempt but I really want to do more than one. Will this "cancel out" the sperm lowering measures (frequent release, rephresh etc) or are others doing this as well?
we'll be doing more than one attempt too. We have never conceived first month before, and want to get pregnant fast.
I'll be using RepHresh which will lower the pH between attempts so shouldn't cancel out the lower sperm count

[Mochagirl]

Yeah - this diet really does a number on our diets, pinkin. I'm on CD4 now and hoping to have my attempt in about a week.

[Jamie86]

We actually have conceived the 1st month with both our other children but I also would like to conceive fast this time as well if at all possible. So I'm thinking we might do FR and rephresh along with a few attempts. Although I don't think I'm going to do extra rephresh the day of BD. I'm just not sure there are so many options.

[KraizyDaizy]

Hi ladies, I am again swaying another month for a precious baby girl! I would love to wait with you all. Many blessings on +HPTs!!!

[auroara78]

Welcome Kraizy Daisy!

Mocha, I love how you and Jen are both in the camp of having multiple attempts! Wishing for a fairy on IG BD'ed like I think 6 days in a row and got a girl, I do think its possible, definitely with rephresh helping to keep the Ph down, since I think raising ph is one of the reasons frequent BD'ing is a no no. I also realize more sperm is supposedly bad for a girl sway, but since my boys were one shot pull out wonders (what does that say about that LOWERED sperm count?? According to sperm count theory alone, they should have been GIRLS!) I am considering doing the opposite hoping for an opposite effect...essentially BD'ing as much as can (poor DH, can he handle it? LOL) and using Rephresh to keep PH in check.

We'll see. I'm sure if I dropped rephresh totally we'd get pregnant easily, but I feel that using rephresh is going to require more BD'ing to get pregnant. I really want to get pregnant in late Dec as like I said I need to avoid Jan, and I really don't want to spend months on this diet TTC'ing.

It's so hard not obessing about swaying, LOL.

Jen, have you O'ed yet? You guys done BDing? How many attempts did you get in?

Lemon, are you O'ing soon? What's going on with you, babe?

I am waiting for AF to show up today, and so far there is like NO sign which is pissng me off, LOL. I do NOT want a late AF, that's just gonna throw off my ovulation and make me annoyed, lol. I really want to O on Christmas Day, so she better show up today or else :P

[Out of the Blue]

Also, I really want to hurry up and get a BFP becuz if our late Dec Christmas attempt is a NO, I will be skipping Jan, as I don't want my two kids to share a birth month if possible!
Auroara, I completely understand that! Hoping you get it on this first try so you don’t have to sit out a month…Come on, AF!!! I hope you get it today so you can get your pink party started soon!!!
:luck: :pinksperm: :luck:

Regarding your strategy, I say go w/your gut and do what feels right. IMHO, as long as you don't get into it too much :p BD a bunch is good if you're using something like RepHresh. Also, trust in the diet. I think it's one of the biggest factors by FAR. :HH:



Jen, have you O'ed yet? You guys done BDing? How many attempts did you get in?

Check out my chart (in my siggie)...No O yet. It feels like my body is still trying to decide whether or not to do it this cycle. It's frustrating and I'm trying to relax but I'm not having much success. I have this dream of waiting until Christmas day to test and then getting that long awaited BFP but I'm feeling like I honestly may be out this cycle. :(

[Out of the Blue]

Hope, so sorry you are out and now you’ll not be able to TTC until Jan That sucks, Mama! :( Since it’ll be awhile, go treat yourself to a nice cheat day or two! You deserve it!!! :HH:

[Out of the Blue]

my big scan has been booked for the 12th of jan!!!!
WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!! :running: So exciting!!!!! :flowerz:

[Out of the Blue]

Today I went to the dr for a check up and I told him I am ttc again , He is our family dr and a very good one... He laughed and said well I can already tell you the gender it will be a boy he said coming from your husbands family there are only boys and he laughed.. My 3 yr old son then went on to say I want a baby sister which he always says and my dr laughed at him and said yes maybe oneday. I always read so much into what everyone says now i feel like giving up as my MIL believes I will never get a girl and tells me not to even mention anything about having a baby girl because its just not going to happen.. Really upset my day it has! So I had a cheese and bacon roll for lunch and now I feel worse!!!! I just feel like whats the point putting myself thru this not just the diet but the stress of everything else that goes with it when I will get another boy anyway. Sorry but I am just down about it all now..
HUGS, HUGS and more HUGS for you, Mama! Yesterday was a bad day for me too. I’m so sorry. Try not to punish yourself about lunch. Just move on b/c one meal isn’t going to break things for you. It's the overall trend that matters! Your MIL sounds like my Mom unfortunately. Although I lost my girl, it felt good to let my Mom know she was indeed a girl b/c it felt like maybe it’s possible again. I think your Dr. probably thinks he knows more than he understands about how we get the genders we do. He may be really good but they don’t teach that stuff in Med school, lol…honestly, I think we know much more than they do (thanks to this site and Atomic :Flower: ), especially since we’re immersed in this every day. He means well but try not to let his words effect you. We’ll help you keep your dream alive here, Pink!!! :cheer:

[Out of the Blue]

It seems a lot of girl sways I'm seeing only involve one attempt but I really want to do more than one. Will this "cancel out" the sperm lowering measures (frequent release, rephresh etc) or are others doing this as well?

I’m of the “DTD like rabbits” camp myself :p …Check out my chart below... We’re using RepHresh & lots attempts. Ultimately, do what feels right for you!!!

[Out of the Blue]

Hi ladies, I am again swaying another month for a precious baby girl! I would love to wait with you all. Many blessings on +HPTs!!!

:wave: Welcome, Daizy!!! Thanks for joining us! :cheer:

[auroara78]

Ahhh, so no pos OPKs either yet, Jen?

BTW, my 4 year old loves your siggy, he loves the star throwing and now asks us to pretend like we're throwing stars LOL! he loves the pillow fighitng in your siggy too.

sometimes he'll be on my lap and i'll be reading posts on this website and he just watches all the siggys, LOL.

[Out of the Blue]

Hey, if you're reading this, I have a favor to ask...Can you send me some O vibes today??? As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like I won't O this cycle. You don't have to respond by posting, just send me some silent O vibes, lol! :flowerz:

[Out of the Blue]

Ahhh, so no pos OPKs either yet, Jen?

BTW, my 4 year old loves your siggy, he loves the star throwing and now asks us to pretend like we're throwing stars LOL! he loves the pillow fighitng in your siggy too.

sometimes he'll be on my lap and i'll be reading posts on this website and he just watches all the siggys, LOL.

Too funny...TFS! Both my little guys do the same thing...They looove looking at siggies too and that's why I chose the ones I did. :)

No +OPKs yet...it actually looks like what color was building the last few days is going. After taking Vitex, I usually have a nice fade-in w/two days of +OPKs. Had hardly any color yesterday. Oh, well. If it's meant to be, it'll happen. You need AF and I need O!!! Sigh...

[Mochagirl]

Oh, Jen - I'm sending you all the O vibes I can. Keep BDing regardless of those OPKs - remember that FF gave me crosshairs without a +OPK, so you could have just missed the surge. I just KNOW this is going to be our month - your body's just taking its time to make the healthiest egg possible this time! :HH:

[zanacal]

O vibes Jen, I hope it happens soon!

[Out of the Blue]

Oh, Jen - I'm sending you all the O vibes I can. Keep BDing regardless of those OPKs - remember that FF gave me crosshairs without a +OPK, so you could have just missed the surge. I just KNOW this is going to be our month - your body's just taking its time to make the healthiest egg possible this time! :HH:

Oh, Mocha...You just made my day! Been kind of sad yesterday and today. Sending all those positive vibes back at you!!! We really need this! :HH:

[Mochagirl]

:hugs: Jen - I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure that egg is going to pop out soon. I see good things for us for 2012. Good riddance 2011.

[amari]

Hi, ladies! Just checking in from Mexico! Hope you all are doing well! The connection isn't very good here so not really getting on the computer. Just wanted to say hi and send you happy thoughts for everything pink!

We are doing are thing here...having a hard time finding food! I am hungry and have to go to dinner tongiht with everyone, I either won't eat enough again and just get a salad or eat way to much everything by getting risotto? Not sure which is worse??

Any news here?? xoxo Amari

[Out of the Blue]

:wave: Amari! Hope you're enjoying Mexico!