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Heart desires pink LP
October 14th, 2018, 09:06 AM
Hi atomic
I'm just so very sad today by looking at another BFN. This will be 5 BFN 's since we started trying.
This cycle I even added attempts and we Bded at O-4, O-2, O. I really thought I'd get pregnant by now.
I'm doing only a light pink sway the past 6 months, and I'm 30 and in good health. We conceived our DS the first month we tried. It's so hard to even try for baby #2 with a toddler around. I have no energy most days. My cycles are getting a bit irregular. I have long 40+ day cycles and then 32 day ones. My ovulation day keeps changing widely and without opks I'm clueless.
I'm heartbroken each month after the anticipation builds up and then hope. . We've wanted a baby for more than a year now, but had to put off ttc until May. Now it just feels like so long and an emptiness has settled in me:(
I think I just want to be pregnant more than anything now. All I can think of is being pregnant, I'm reading about it all the time, symptom spotting and consumed by it.
It shouldn't be so hard, should it?
What can I do to really boost and increase my chances of pregnancy with a bit of pink odds? When should I see an obgyn?
Thank you


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atomic sagebrush
October 14th, 2018, 06:43 PM
Next month I want you to BD every 4 days with one additional attempt at positive OPK. What you did there was actually not great chances of conception. It'e entirely possible you were really only in with one viable attempt - O-4 too early, O Day, may have been too late. e4d plus one always ensures you have at least 2 viable attempts in the fertile window. And I want you doing the e4d sooner than o-4 and longer than after O Day in case of early or late O.

While I know it feels like it's taking forever, the average time to conception (without swaying) is 3-6 months so you're still in that window.

Can you tell me about anything else you guys are doing (or not?) We can def. add in some things to boost odds of conception, although I'd like to see you give e4d plus one at pos OPK at least a month before we do.

Heart desires pink LP
October 15th, 2018, 09:13 AM
Thanks atomic. I think this month I actually did E4D and one attempt at pos opk.
We Bded on Sunday and got first pos opk on Tuesday noon. I Bded then. Got positive all day wed and until Thursday midday. We Bded on Thursday night. I ovulated early Thursday.

Going forward, are you recommending that I do Mon /Thursday pattern of E4D and one attempt at first sign of pos opk?

So here are things we are doing :
So I included one full fat dairy serving and some 3-4 whole eggs/week in my diet to support ovulation.
I'm vegetarian by upbringing
I eat 1600 cals or so to my comfort.
Not exercising the past 3 months
Using preseed during BD
No hot showers or FR for DH before
No jump and dump. I lay about 20-30 mins after.
BD in missionary
No defined pattern to sex prior to attempts
Supplements : only folic acid
No douche etc
Been doing one attempt at pos opk until this cycle, where we did E4D and one attempt at pos.
In the last few cycles, CM is barely detected. Usually I get lots of EWCM.

Is there anything else I could be doing?
Appreciate your help very much!
Thank you



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atomic sagebrush
October 15th, 2018, 04:05 PM
Yes that's what I'm saying. e4d in the Mon/Thurs pattern and then one more attempt at pos OPK.

I would add in female O and also spend part of the time on your belly insead of just on your back.

I want you to drop the "no defined patterns" idea and DTD every 4 days in Mon/Thurs pattern. Even though it wasn't the case this month, it is VERY easy for people to O early or late. That is the benefit of the e4d is that you will be covered in case u O before you've started BD or after you've stopped. Plus, it may help boost fertility a little too.

Heart desires pink LP
October 16th, 2018, 12:04 PM
Got it!! I've been treating BD as a one week in the 'fertile window' project. I think that will change with E4D from end of AF to beginning of AF.
Thanks very much! Hope you are having a great day!! :)

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atomic sagebrush
October 17th, 2018, 12:26 PM
Perfect!! This will happen SOON! :)

Thanks! Hope you are, too!