Basic outline of my girl sway (opinions please)...

[Jamie86]

I posed this in the girl swayers December thread but I thought I would get some opinions of some of those not in that thread (not that you ladies aren't wonderful because you all are!).This isn't one of those big fancy ones but I'll will type one of those up after I get opinions and what not (I have a few comments and questions). I'm getting a little nervous about the rephresh that it might really hurt my chances of conceiving this month after reading more on here. We are fairly young (25) and conceived on the 1st try with both of our previous children. Really my only sway plan as of now is
-I'm eating fewer calories and trying to keep it low sugar/carb (but not really the low everything diet) I don't eat breakfast (try not to eat until 11-12 but sometimes have a small snack at 10) and then try not to eat after 7-8 (depending on how things go with the kids sometimes I don't get a chance to eat until after 7 and some days I mess up on my diet but I still really try not to eat at all past or before a certain time)
-I take baby aspirin every other day
-RePHresh every 3 days from end of AF to O
-Folic acid daily but no other vitamins
-Frequent release with DH we have missed one day and only one of those releasing was having sex and I have had one O since the end of AF but don't plan on anymore
-Plan to attempt 2DBO 1DBO and on O. But plan to have DH release once in the morning before attempt. Will also both have hot bath before.


A few questions:
-Heard on here that benadryl might sway better than rephresh but I'm trying to do something different this time and when I conceived DS2 I was on phentermine that made me very very dry down there. And so far (used it twice) no negative effects of rephresh, I do feel a little moist the morning after (I've been using it at night) and my vaginal odor that has been around for quite a while (some of you might have seen the post) seems to have been greatly reduced if not gone completely YAY!)
HOLY COW I'm longwinded! Here is my actual question did the fact that the phentermine made me so dry mean my CM was lowered as well or are those to completely different things (I feel dumb for not knowing that)?

-2nd question I'm trying to decide if I should get DH to release the morning of the attempt or if this would be "over kill" I was thinking maybe something like no release before the 2DBO attempt, haven't decided about the 1DBO attempt and maybe then release before the O attempt.

How does this look? Any suggestions or do you think we are really hurting our chances of conceiving or not doing enough?

[rainbowflower]

if you conceived first cycle each time before I'd be inclined to just have one attempt around OV instead of 3 and see how it goes?
Benadryl and RepHresh sway in different ways - if you felt dry, CM would have been reduced

it's a fine balance between lowering sperm count to sway and enough to get pregnant - if you conceived fast before your DH probably has a good sperm count and you're probably naturally fertile so you could get away with a stronger sway than a couple with lower fertility

[Jamie86]

if you conceived first cycle each time before I'd be inclined to just have one attempt around OV instead of 3 and see how it goes?
Benadryl and RepHresh sway in different ways - if you felt dry, CM would have been reduced

it's a fine balance between lowering sperm count to sway and enough to get pregnant - if you conceived fast before your DH probably has a good sperm count and you're probably naturally fertile so you could get away with a stronger sway than a couple with lower fertility

I'm really trying to figure out what to do with that because I also want to get pregnant quickly if possible and I know it's a fine balance but I think putting everything into that one attempt might cause me more stress than it's worth. I have a cycle that ranges from 28-35 days and although I'm using OPKs I'm afraid of missing when I actually O. Last month we decided to TTC after 2 days of positive OPKs (I was resisting and DH convinced me after a date night) and we made one attempt and my OPK remained positive for 2 days after and I really was just never sure when I Oed. We weren't doing any real sway techniques. I think if my cycle was more regular I would be comfortable with that, we did conceive both my sons so quickly but both times we were just naturally having sex every 2 days so I was never really sure which one did it (my 1st we weren't trying for my 2nd we had just decided to stop preventing and said if we didn't get pregnant that month we would really start actually trying but we did).

[rainbowflower]

will you be temping just to check?

[Jamie86]

will you be temping just to check?

I never have because until the last couple of months when I've had like 3-4 days of positives, I could detect very easily with just OPKs (even though it was irregular I just checked every day from CD 9-10 on) and AF always showed up 14 days after the positive. I know I should temp but I'm unsure if it's too late for this cycle anyway to get a baseline (I'm on CD10). I might try to start tomorrow just to see what I get. But I have noticed with the 1st cycle it has done that AF showed up 14 days after the 1st positive and with last month it was 14 days after the 2nd so maybe I should just stop testing after I get the 1st like the directions say (I'm just a POAS addict :) ).

[atomic sagebrush]

1)I understand you're not doing LE Diet but data indicates a low protein, high carb diet sways pink

2):agree: aspirin, rephresh, no vitamins

3)if you miss a day with frequent you might want to have him release twice for a day or two if he can.

4) :agree: with 3 attempts BUT rainbow makes a good case that you might want to try just one attemptthe first month sinceyou've gotten pg easily before.

5)It's not that I think benadryl may sway "better" than RepHresh, but just that if people are having trouble conceiving, they should drop RepHresh before Benadryl because the Rephresh only works in the VJ while Benadryl works throughout your repro tract.

6)Phentermine vs. Benadryl - We've seen ph opposites and CM opposites. Despite that, I still am convinced that drying up CM is one of the major ways that Mother Nature sways gender and since drying up CM ALSO produces low vaginal pH, I personally feel drying up CM is the way to go for everyone even if you've conceived another boy with less CM.

7)DH releasing twice - I think if you do one attempt, he should not release beforehand, but if you do the three attempts, it makes a lot of sense to do just what you suggest, one release 2DBO, for sure use second release on O day, and then play it by ear on 1 DBO and see how he's feeling and if he's even up for it.

[Jamie86]

1)I understand you're not doing LE Diet but data indicates a low protein, high carb diet sways pink

2):agree: aspirin, rephresh, no vitamins

3)if you miss a day with frequent you might want to have him release twice for a day or two if he can.

4) :agree: with 3 attempts BUT rainbow makes a good case that you might want to try just one attemptthe first month sinceyou've gotten pg easily before.

5)It's not that I think benadryl may sway "better" than RepHresh, but just that if people are having trouble conceiving, they should drop RepHresh before Benadryl because the Rephresh only works in the VJ while Benadryl works throughout your repro tract.

6)Phentermine vs. Benadryl - We've seen ph opposites and CM opposites. Despite that, I still am convinced that drying up CM is one of the major ways that Mother Nature sways gender and since drying up CM ALSO produces low vaginal pH, I personally feel drying up CM is the way to go for everyone even if you've conceived another boy with less CM.

7)DH releasing twice - I think if you do one attempt, he should not release beforehand, but if you do the three attempts, it makes a lot of sense to do just what you suggest, one release 2DBO, for sure use second release on O day, and then play it by ear on 1 DBO and see how he's feeling and if he's even up for it.

1) I have definitely reduced my protein a lot, although I don't know if it has been long enough (I think I read you are suppose to to the diet for 6 weeks) . I just can't do high carb because of the gestational diabetes.

2) YAY!

3)Yeah I'm thinking we might do that but I'm going to wait to see when O happens as we are only on CD10 now and he has released 5 times already and last month I didn't O until CD 17-18 so when I start getting closer if it's soon I will get him to release twice a day. Right now his sex drive is lower than in the past (probably good right?) and he is having a hard time with even just the once a day.

4) I might reduce my attempts but I really would like to get pregnant quick this time as well because I will be starting work in january and I know my stress is going to go way up and my previous points about not being able to pinpoint O recently I know I should temp but I just think one attempt might stress me way to much so maybe 2? I just don't know this is the most confusing stressful part to me.

5)Oh ok I see what you are saying (I actually just saw someone else mention it in the december pink swayers thread and couldn't find the post they were referring to) so if you were me would you add benadryl as well?

6)Thanks for that info I'm just trying to decide what to do that is different from my previous pregnancies.

7) If we do multiple attempts I think we will do this if he's up for it he is totally willing but I really don't want to make it too much of a "job"

[atomic sagebrush]

1) Absolutely right on that, anyone with blood sugar issues should not do high carb. Thanks for clarifying.

3)That makes perfect sense and I agree low sex drive is a good sign.

4)If I had my druthers everyone would do the 3-5 attempts in the fertile window and get pg as quick as possible. Don't start temping if you don't already, just do the 3 attempts starting on the day of a pos OPK. Less stress. :agree:

5) I would add Benadryl (actually I woudl add Zyrtec because Benadryl makes me a zombie)

6)Different isn't always good. some things are a step in the wrong direction. Sometimes I cringe when I see people say "well I have to do the opposite of what I did before"...um, no, you don't. That's like a person saying, the last time when I did the Atkins diet I didn't lose any weight, so now I'm going to do the opposite of that and start eating nothing but birthday cakes. Birthday cake is even WORSE and if Atkins didn't work, maybe it was because the person did something "wrong" or didn't stick with it long enough or maybe it was just bad luck.

7)Makes total sense to me! Good luck.

[Jamie86]

1) Absolutely right on that, anyone with blood sugar issues should not do high carb. Thanks for clarifying.

3)That makes perfect sense and I agree low sex drive is a good sign.

4)If I had my druthers everyone would do the 3-5 attempts in the fertile window and get pg as quick as possible. Don't start temping if you don't already, just do the 3 attempts starting on the day of a pos OPK. Less stress. :agree:

5) I would add Benadryl (actually I woudl add Zyrtec because Benadryl makes me a zombie)

6)Different isn't always good. some things are a step in the wrong direction. Sometimes I cringe when I see people say "well I have to do the opposite of what I did before"...um, no, you don't. That's like a person saying, the last time when I did the Atkins diet I didn't lose any weight, so now I'm going to do the opposite of that and start eating nothing but birthday cakes. Birthday cake is even WORSE and if Atkins didn't work, maybe it was because the person did something "wrong" or didn't stick with it long enough or maybe it was just bad luck.

7)Makes total sense to me! Good luck.

Thanks for all of this it made me feel a lot better! I keep having these mini freak outs but posting on here really helps me feel more at ease. I am especially glad to see what you have said about doing things differently. It makes me feel a lot better about not stressing that everything has to change. I'm debating between benadryl and zyrtec but I might lean towards benadryl since I tend to be so high strung it doesn't really knock me out it just kind of mellows me a bit.

[atomic sagebrush]

It is actually safe to do both Zyrtec and Benadryl and this was confirmed by 2 doctors and a pharmacist. They act on different functions of the body and so you can't OD if you take them both together, so you may even want to consider doing the one a day Zyrtec and then keeping the Benadryl in reserves if you need it, to take an hour before your attempt.