clomid user, will i be doing too much ???

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi guys, just need some advice on my planned sway, il be using clomid, il be on the LE diet, i was planning to do an extreme sway from IG, GDC its called, im doing a 0+12 with it, plus il be using cranberry supps for DH, along with liqourice root, sudafed, acidophilus, and for me folic acid, acidophilus, baby aspirin, citirizine and clomid, was planning on using replens, vinegar douching, vinegar tampon, and lime to lower DH ph, is this all too much with clomid if so what would you take out, im desperate for DD i have two DS, any input would be great,

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, this is WAY TOO much on Clomid - but I already told you that on your other threads so I'm assuming you are looking for others' input here and so I will bow out. :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes i remember what you have told me was looking for others input but your input is always amazing :happy: so what would you take out ???

[DoulaMama]

Holy moly! That's a lot of stuff! Honestly, from what I have read about the damage that Clomid can do, I'd take all gels, douches, tampons etc out of your sway. To me, it's just too risky. If it was my sway I'd do the LE diet-hardcore, plus frequent release from AF to O with him releasing inside of me everytime....or a one time shot after FR on O-1, or a one time shot after abstinence on O-1. No gels, douches, etc. except maybe some sylk. I wouldn't jump and dump. If I didn't get pregnant the first month, I'd DTD every day with preseed as I'd really want pregnancy to happen. Just my 2 cents. To me, having a really bad uterine lining or possible cancer and never being able to conceive would be much worse than getting another boy. This is me though. You need to do what you feel is right for you. xoxo

[zanacal]

Woah, does anybody get pregnant doing all that?! I can imagine potentially taking a heck of a long time to get a BFP even without Clomid.

I do understand your reluctance to drop absolutely everything when you want a girl so much and I would probably go for some girl sway things but I would take it very easy. If you're set on only one attempt then I would do this at +OPK and not at O+12 - and if I didn't get a BFP first month then I'd add in a couple of more attempts before O the following month. I would do frequent release or a compressed frequent release before the attempt and avoid abstinence. I wouldn't take an antihistimine (other gals' experience is that there's no cm anyway while on Clomid!) and if I was adamant about using one of the acid gels then I'd use just a tiny bit of Replens (as you already have that) an hour or two before our attempt or a teeny weeny bit of Sylk as a lube. I certainly wouldn't go anywhere near lime/vinegar douches etc.

[atomic sagebrush]

For you, I would do ONLY diet and then the vitex/SP in the month before like we talked about.

For DH, I would do only frequency pattern and possibly the licorice root the first month and then drop if you don't get pg.

I think this topic needs an essay and if you can bear with me a couple days I'll ~try~ to write one up.

[littlemissnaughty7]

ooh ok that sounds fab AS but only when you have time hun, i thought this was all way too much, just wondered what you would all get rid of, i have 3 months on clomid before i go bk to my doc who said that they would then prob give me another 3 months, even though ive had it 3 times in my past, (once over 3 years ago, and twice 18 months ago,) they said the risk with cancer is not a guarantee as its just something that may happen but it hasnt been def linked to clomid as studys are not conclusive enough yet, but im not sure i would want another 3 before taking a break to see if my cycles would start on there own, i am going to stick to abstinence and prob the 0+12 as DH was a frequent releaser with both my sons, il get rid of the EGS from IG, (aghhh i brought loads of stuff, including a centrifuge) not sure about the douching and tampons and gels though kind of want to do something, err this is driving me mad lol x

[atomic sagebrush]

Personally, I just don't want anyone to take ANY risk of cancer (be it proven or unproven beyond a reasonable doubt) for swaying tactics that are NOT EVEN proven to begin with.

Stick with abstinence if you must but I would really really NOT do O+12. Clomid eggs ~may~ not live as long and FOR SURE you are at much greater chance of releasing two eggs so if you do O+12 and release 2-3 eggs, you will basically just do spot on O for the second egg. You're reducing your odds of pg for something that a)isn't even proven to sway anyway and b)will up your chances of BD spot on O if you release 2 or 3 eggs! JMO but I think it's better to DTD on pos OPK because you CAN get pg that way and you will NOT be DTD right on O of any egg.

If you GOTTA douche, do ONLY a before douche and DO NOT do lime tampon.

[littlemissnaughty7]

what are the benefits from douching and tampons and gels anyway, i get them mixed up

[littlemissnaughty7]

hmmmmmmmmm the fact that it will prob take a while doing this method is making me think now, if i did the 0-1 like most are suggesting how would you suggest to keep ph low up to that attempt, and how often should i do this (method of keeping ph low) ??

[zanacal]

I'm going to speculate that your pH will be low anyway because you'll be dry from the Clomid - and it's the EWCM at your fertile time which increases pH (if you're not DTD, which would be another reason for pH to go up).

[littlemissnaughty7]

well zanacal i presume it will be low, (fingers crossed) im def not going to take citirizine, may use some replens if ph is on the higher side, not sure about the douche may do one before attempt but not after, an prob get rid of vinegar tampon too, what do you think ?

[atomic sagebrush]

I would feel much better about that little miss. GL.

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh thanks AS whats your opinion on the EGS from IG ?

[atomic sagebrush]

what are the benefits from douching and tampons and gels anyway, i get them mixed up

Douching - lowers pH temporarily, kills sperm and washes away EWCM and if you do it after sex, removes some semen as well

tampons - lowers pH for however long it's in there, kills sperm and may absorb some semen and EWCM

jelly - easier and more sanitary, longer lasting, lowers pH, and if you use Rephresh it lasts for 3 days, if you use Sylk it's also a good lube

[atomic sagebrush]

hmmmmmmmmm the fact that it will prob take a while doing this method is making me think now, if i did the 0-1 like most are suggesting how would you suggest to keep ph low up to that attempt, and how often should i do this (method of keeping ph low) ??

Your pH may be low to begin with if you have very little CM and also because of diet.

Personally, I think you may need to let go of the pH idea a little bit in favor of conception. lots of us have had pH opposites, both for boys and for girls.

RepHresh I think is the best and safest way. If you MUST use something, I would use RepHresh the full 3 days before my attempt day.

[littlemissnaughty7]

that was my exact thought too when i just read your comment on what they all do, just not sure what to do with my EGS plan, could i do it but with a 0-1 attempt do u think ???

[littlemissnaughty7]

extreme sway plan sorry that should of been,

[littlemissnaughty7]

AS hun i have had a +opk last night and this morning on clearblue digital, i cant believe it, it must be down to the vitex, i was due to start it again today should i postpone this now due to me ovulating, saying that will i def ovulate now ive had those +opk's, i should do right ??, and im still thinking of taking the clomid even if i do get regular cycles back, is that wrong ??? sorry so many questions just a bit excited i may have my cycles back,

[littlemissnaughty7]

still +opk getting excited !

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok looks like i have ovulated had some major pains this morning, and cm is white and creamy and not very stretchy now, just wondereing if i was to do a 0+12 is there any pointers i can get on when to pin point it as i think i ovulated in the night, how would i know when to start counting 12 hours past,

[littlemissnaughty7]

any help on the above question please or the one i wrote a few posts ago,

[littlemissnaughty7]

AS hun not sure if you have seen this but just wanted your take on it please if you have 5 x

[littlemissnaughty7]

sorry hun ive just seen that you have sent me a PM thanks x

[atomic sagebrush]

that was my exact thought too when i just read your comment on what they all do, just not sure what to do with my EGS plan, could i do it but with a 0-1 attempt do u think ???

I answered this on your other thread but when on Clomid I would prefer if you did not do EGS.

If you MUST do EGS, I would prefer if you did SEVERAL attempts in your fertile window with EGS rather than just one attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

AS hun i have had a +opk last night and this morning on clearblue digital, i cant believe it, it must be down to the vitex, i was due to start it again today should i postpone this now due to me ovulating, saying that will i def ovulate now ive had those +opk's, i should do right ??, and im still thinking of taking the clomid even if i do get regular cycles back, is that wrong ??? sorry so many questions just a bit excited i may have my cycles back,

Yes, if you're ovulating then don't start the vitex now. (if you had been taking it all along you could prob. have continued until you were due to stop Clomid but I don't want to confuse your body)

I personally would still take the Clomid even if I did have a cycle. You never know if this will repeat itself next month or not. Clomid will only help your sway.

[littlemissnaughty7]

not sure what to think now my temp has come down but no AF is this normal, thought i had some cramps yesterday, but none today feel maybe a bit bloated, my temp has been real high for 10 days now its come down in the last 2, ive been real sick though had a real bad bug sweep through my family all throwing up the last few days, ive been up loads in the nights too so temps arnt prob that reliable, could i really not have ovulated ???

[atomic sagebrush]

It might have been a fake one. It does happen sometimes. That's actually ok tho because even if you didn't ovulate THIS month, your body is having "practice cycles" which can indicate that it will start ovulating in the future.

One time when I was BF I had a fake O that was so real I took like 7 HPT and then went to the doctor and had THEM give me a test too. :/

[littlemissnaughty7]

well i must of ovulated as i got AF today yayyyyyyyy !!!!!, sad i know lol, 12dpo so thats about right for me if i remember correctly, so hoping i do it again this month, il start vitex again today too, thats right isnt it i should take it again right or do i stop it now...... eekk mental block !!!!!

[zanacal]

Vitex from AF-O if you're not using Clomid this cycle - glad you O'd!

[atomic sagebrush]

well i must of ovulated as i got AF today yayyyyyyyy !!!!!, sad i know lol, 12dpo so thats about right for me if i remember correctly, so hoping i do it again this month, il start vitex again today too, thats right isnt it i should take it again right or do i stop it now...... eekk mental block !!!!!

Hey, that's great news! Wow vitex!!

Yes, do start taking vitex now from AF-O unless you're doing Clomid this month???