SYLK and Gender

[annabel♥lee]

Updated 7-11-15

NOTE from atomic: Since sunset posted this thread, we have seen disappointing results with all the jellies. They don't seem to be swaying much if at all and are seemingly neutral, getting the same success rates as the site as a whole. Additionally, they are really cutting odds of conception considerably with a great many people unable to conceive while using them. While most people do wish to start out using them, it should be among the first things that is dropped and please never add attempts while keeping Aci-Jel or any of the other jellies...one attempt has gotten by far and away better success rates for pink than the jellies and it's much easier to get pregnant with one attempt if you do not use jelly!!

Please everyone continue to share your experiences using Sylk not only with gender but also with how easily you conceived on it (or not!)

I saw the Preseed & Gender thread, thought I'd mkake a Sylk & Gender thread. I'm already pregnant so I shouldn't be obsessing about this stuff but I am.....

If you used Sylk to get pregnant, what gender did you have/are you having?? Thanks. :)

(maybe Atomic will sticky it)

[zanacal]

I've stickied it for you :D

[Sunset]

okay this off topic as i guess as i never used Sylk for my attempt, but thought I would put it out there, Sylk raised my ph like mad!! No other vaginal gel made my ph shoot up like Sylk did so I urge women to try it out first to see how it affects their ph before using it! My ph was usually in the low 4's and Sylk made it shoot up right to the high 6/low 7... crazy stuff! I ended up using aci gel and represh for my attempt as it didn't raise my ph.

[atomic sagebrush]

Great idea for a thread and interesting info Sunset!!

[annabel♥lee]

Thanks for sticky-ing this! :)

Sunset, OH NO! That worries me because I wasn't checking my pH! Was it your first time using it? i had been using it for about 6 months so hopefully my body was used to it. I wonder if your body just wasnt used to it so it went nuts???

[atomic sagebrush]

annabel, that's what I think happens with some of the very low pH products - if you're not used to it, your body "panics" and tries to wash it away, and the fluid it uses to wash it away is alkaline. That may not be such a bad thing tho - the initial burst of low pH will kill off some sperm and then the more alkaline fluid comes along to help whoever is left, make it to the egg.

[Brat23]

I used Sylk and Acijel and had boy #3 HTH

[purple sky]

Great thread. I was considering Sylk but maybe will just stick with rephresh

[annabel♥lee]

Brat - I remember seeing you on IG! :) I think there was a Sylk thread over there that you posted in. Seemed like there were a ton of people in that thread who got girls with it so I'm trying to remain hopeful.

[Brat23]

Brat - I remember seeing you on IG! :) I think there was a Sylk thread over there that you posted in. Seemed like there were a ton of people in that thread who got girls with it so I'm trying to remain hopeful. Oh yes almost everyone had girls. I was one of the few opposites don't let me discourage you. Go with your gut lots of luck! Wishing you pink!

[Lassie1982]

I was also planning in using the sylk.
No idea about my PH, have never checked it.
I suppose i should test to make sure.
How do i check it? Just gets some strips and stick it up there? Or try and get some CM and put that on the strip?
(if this info is elsewhere, apologises, pls point me to it)
Where would i get the test sticks from? Chemists I assume?
Do i need to wait a certain amount of time after using sylk, or just check straight away and then a couple of hours afterwards?

[atomic sagebrush]

Lassie - Honestly, if you haven't checked pH already, you don't need to. I think for many of us, getting too worked up over our pH only serves to raise testosterone and we've seen quite a few pH opposites anyway.

If you are doing RepHresh WITH Sylk, then there is no way you can have a pH spike, because RepHresh is designed to chemically react with everything it comes into contact with to lower pH. So even if your body does react badly to they Sylk and try to wash it away with CM, that CM with then chemically react with the RepHresh and the pH will be super low anyway. RepHresh + Sylk = no worries.

If you do decide you'd like to check pH just for fun, you have to order pH sticks from online, eBay has several sellers. You want a stick that goes from 4.5 thru 10 - I used urion brand (this was when I was doing a traditional sway on the other site) but anything works as long as it measures pH from 4.5-10. BTW - got a boy with pH 4.5!! :/

[atomic sagebrush]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/2065-how-check-ph-dh-dw.html

[Lassie1982]

Thanks atomic, that's a relief! One less thing to add to the equation.
I was going to be using the rephresh AND the sylk so will stick to that.
Rephresh every third day from AF, with the last one being the day before BD, and the sylk for the BD - sound right?

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: perfect!

[Zosh]

Hi Ladies, I was just going through the Failed Girl Sways, and I noticed that like 55% (6/11) of failed girl swayers used SYLK, whilst NONE of the successful girl swayers used it. (please correct me, if I'm wrong). I know that there are number of overall factors that determine the success of a sway, but I just wanted to put that statistic out there. Personally when I was experimenting with SYLK, it made by PH skyrocket from high 4's to high 6's. And Yes, many women have had many daughters whilst using SYLK. But my guess is that it can either increase/decrease PH, so please test, test, test before you decide to use it in your attempt.

[Lassie1982]

Hi Ladies, I was just going through the Failed Girl Sways, and I noticed that like 55% (6/11) of failed girl swayers used SYLK, whilst NONE of the successful girl swayers used it. (please correct me, if I'm wrong). I know that there are number of overall factors that determine the success of a sway, but I just wanted to put that statistic out there. Personally when I was experimenting with SYLK, it made by PH skyrocket from high 4's to high 6's. And Yes, many women have had many daughters whilst using SYLK. But my guess is that it can either increase/decrease PH, so please test, test, test before you decide to use it in your attempt.

Maybe the key is to use it in conjunction with RePhresh?

[fresas]

I used Sylk and I think it made my pH go from around 5 to 7. This was after using repHresh, too. This was around ovulation.

The first time I used Sylk, it also made my pH go up also. There was no repHresh involved and this was not around ovulation. I was just seeing what Sylk did.

I personally will not use it for swaying if I sway again, but that is because of how it reacted with my body.

There are a lot of other elements that go into the sways you were looking at, but if you feel uncomfortable with using Sylk, then don't use it. You can always practice with it, too. The practice is always fun. ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Ladies, I was just going through the Failed Girl Sways, and I noticed that like 55% (6/11) of failed girl swayers used SYLK, whilst NONE of the successful girl swayers used it. (please correct me, if I'm wrong). I know that there are number of overall factors that determine the success of a sway, but I just wanted to put that statistic out there. Personally when I was experimenting with SYLK, it made by PH skyrocket from high 4's to high 6's. And Yes, many women have had many daughters whilst using SYLK. But my guess is that it can either increase/decrease PH, so please test, test, test before you decide to use it in your attempt.

Thank you for sharing this info! I do know of quite a few people who did conceive girls after using Sylk, just sharing so people are aware. The only way we could ever really know what jelly is best, is side by side studies with hundreds of couples who weren't swaying.

The ONLY reason I suggest Sylk over any other jellies, is because it's a good lube and many pink swayers desperately need a lube for BD. Plus, unlike Acijel, I know people have gotten pg easily while using Sylk. If you don't need a lube or don't feel comfy with Sylk, then don't use it! :) The only jelly I am really and truly sold on is RepHresh. The rest are all optional and TBH have just as much to do with the fact that I know that people like to use something right before BD because it makes them feel happier about their sway (psychological benefits) as anythign to do with swaying.

I do think that for many people, using Replens/Sylk/Acijel WITH RepHresh will help to counteract any rise in pH BUT I do know of a couple people who have had pH rise even with RepHresh. Remember tho, we aren't really even sure if pH has anything to do with swaying gender anyway! Sylk may sway pink regardless of what your pH does after you use it simply by making it harder for sperm to make it into the cervix or causing some to capacitate sooner...we really just don't know.

[atomic sagebrush]

Brat did use anything else like replens or rephresh? How much aci-jel did you use and how often? My gut really still wants to use a little aci-jel an hour before my attempt, but I don't think I am going to use any sylk. I also will be doing the rephresh after AF every 3 days and 1/2 app 12 hours before.

I have read a little bit about Brat's sway and it sounds like it was a perfect IG sway. A lot of people have said they no longer believe in swaying because Brat's sway didn't work out!! So I am assuming she did not use RepHresh because they have the incorrect info about RepHresh on IG - the IG Faq claims a "reactive lube" raises your pH higher and higher, but it doesn't. A reactive lube is designed to react with the stuff it comes into contact with to raise OR lower the pH of the stuff itself to a certain level (rather than just blending with whatever it comes into contact with.). RepHresh is designed to bring the pH of everything it comes into contact with, to 4.5-5. If the pH is lower, it will raise it just a little (which is why it's not a good idea to do lime douche with RepHresh) and if pH is higher, then it will lower it.

I hope Brat sees this and chimes in!

[Lassie1982]

So whats to verdict on Sylk then?
I have been using it ONLY for swaying purposes, I dont need a lube.
Am using rephresh, should I use Sylk as well? If there's a chance it might help sway i'll use it...but *should* I or is it really just for those that need lube?

[HopingForPigtails]

This probably doesn't amount to much but when we were TTC #1, we were obviously not swaying and I was having hormonal imbalances so was taking Vitex, using Rephresh (or Replens- I can't remember which one!) and used Sylk as well. However, I think the night we conceived, if taken a Robitusson for a cold- which gives you more CM. We had a boy. My diet is completely boy friendly, though- and I think diet/hormone levels is a huge part of this!!

[atomic sagebrush]

So whats to verdict on Sylk then?
I have been using it ONLY for swaying purposes, I dont need a lube.
Am using rephresh, should I use Sylk as well? If there's a chance it might help sway i'll use it...but *should* I or is it really just for those that need lube?

It is up to you, Lassie. I think RepHresh alone works great and if I had my 'druthers I would have people use JUST RepHresh both for financial reasons and also because the more stuff you use, the lower the odds of pg. I keep the Sylk in the mix because many pink swayers do need a lube and also because some people really feel the need (because of the "other site") to use something right before DTD, if for no other reason than psychological.

[dramabird]

I think RepHresh alone works great and if I had my 'druthers I would have people use JUST RepHresh both for financial reasons and also because the more stuff you use, the lower the odds of pg.

So would you recommend that folks who aren't getting pg after a couple of cycles drop Sylk before dropping, say, antihistamines or licorice root or abstaining (or diet, of course)?

On a somewhat related note ... I wonder if it would be beneficial to create a hierarchy of the different sway components in a list of priority (as best as is known)? I know a lot of us, after a couple of cycles of throwing everything at a sway, start trying to figure out what to drop -- would it possible to put together a checklist of the things to absolutely keep at the bottom (such as LE diet, skipping breakfast/low glucose, etc.) with the "firsts to go" toward the top? It might help cut back on the posts of "oh no, I'm not getting pg, what do I drop?" (I'm in the 2ww myself, so I could be asking that same question at the beginning of April! :))

[atomic sagebrush]

The problem is, I don't KNOW in which order to drop things. All I would be doing is pulling it out of my butt LOL and since I honestly don't know, it makes more sense to me for you guys to decide what to drop individually, KWIM?? A good case can be made for dropping/keeping anything and I"m a bit concerned that were I to make such a hierarchy, that would lock people into a one-size-fits-all sway and that's what I'm really trying to avoid. Some couples might want to drop abstain first if their husband hated it, while others might want to drop LR instead if he was having ED because of it. A couple who was 22 years old might want to keep abstain many months longer than a couple who was 32. A gal who always had a lot of CM might want to keep antihistamine and then might drop RepHresh instead but someone without CM but whose husband had super high pH would want to drop antihistamine first...it's all about what works for the individual couple.

NEVER drop diet. ALWAYS drop timing. The rest, I think is subject to each couple's needs and desires.

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't think we can generalize unless we have people who aren't doing ANYTHING to sway other than just Sylk vs. TTC naturally. Sways are such complicated things that I think it's pretty tough to pick out one factor in isolation. Esp. something like Sylk where we can't even really know how much the people used, when they used it, how much got lost while BD, etc. Sylk isn't the kind of thing like cal-mag whether you're taking it or you're not...people use varying degrees of Sylk and mix it with other things so it isn't as cut and dried as all that.

We just don't have the numbers to know for sure and also, I think some people who use "sway tactic X" tend to have things in common...like the old debate over FR vs. abstain. There are reasons why some people choose FR vs. abstain, just like there are reasons why people use Sylk vs. other jellies.

As far as the sways I've seen, I've def. seen successful sways with Sylk.

[Lucky-happy-blessed]

I know I'm a bit late to this, but I just answered the pre-seed question so I thought I'd answer this one too!

I've only used sylk to ttc once and the result was my darling 5th boy, I'm sure that that was not the reason why, but still I'm going to drop sylk from my sway this time

[pink carol]

Hi, I'm new here and a bit late for this thread but thought I'd add my input! I wasn't obssessive about measuring my ph. After all I had read, my gut told me Aci-jel and Sylk were the way to go (and I used lavish amounts of both) for a perfect 3 and a half-day cut-off. Well, I'm expecting a boy.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks ladies for sharing your experiences!! We've seen so many pH opposites, I think it just can't be that effective.

No one's too late for these threads, they're ongoing and we want as many responses as we can! Keep em coming!!

[Vanz2010]

I'm thinking of using sylk so thanks for posting your experiences with it.

[babydust]

I used sylk as a lube when I conceived my DD. I did a one time cut off 2 or 3 days before I O'ed. I think syll kept my ph the same. Might have raised it a tiny bit. Had to use small amount of lome douche until I O'ed though because I had a lot of Ewcm to wash away and ph to lower. This time I only used repHresh and antihistamines and found that my ph stayed low and think/sticky creamy cm. Using repHresh really decreased stress level. Also dtd closer to O decreased the stress of having to keep ph low after my cut off through O. Was constantly checking ph! Haha. Hth

[babydust]

Oh, I also used a lot of replens finger when I conceived my DD.

[babydust]

One more thing that I just remembered....I didn't need any lube this time around. I used repHresh every third day starting at the end of AF and then used 1/2 app 11 hours before our attempt. Used the rest of it to smear it on my VJ as I didn't want to put it all up and ruin chances of pregnancy ;). But yeah, when we dtd (TMI!) my cm was creamy thick and sticky. Also had taken benedril
Just before our attempt. But the repHresh still worked and I didn't have to worry about using any lube.

[Rainbow baby]

Just saw this, I used silk with slack ig diet and got a boy.
I used left over silk as a lube cause no ewcm when bedding number 4 no other swaying = boy

[mummypink]

I used a small bit of Sylk both times we bd with my sway too alongside the LE diet for 4 weeks, I didn't really need the lube but thought it might help my sway - I'm pregnant with my 3rd boy so if we do try again in the future I def won't be using Sylk! xx

[mrs magoo]

Hmmm rethinking sylk!

[babygirl]

used sylk with my last pregnancy and got a boy

[Rainbow baby]

Oh dear looks like it may help the little Y's along some how! I will be sticking with refresh too!

[Pangea]

It's not looking good for sylk is it! I bought some when I was preparing for my sway, but I read this thread and decided not to use it. I used preseed and conceive plus for my boys, so this time I'm using nothing.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh dear looks like it may help the little Y's along some how! I will be sticking with refresh too!

Well, that's why we do these poll threads, is so we can tell these things because otherwise it's kind of hard to tell. People were getting good results with Sylk on IG.

If pH sways, then Sylk sways pink because it's very low in pH - I don't want anyone to panic too much and drop it if they wanted to use it, because you have to look at the big picture. I've seen plenty of opposites with all the jellies, even Acijel.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm going to go into more detail in this in another post, but it is def. appearing that people are getting more boys than they "should" be with otherwise good sways, using the Sylk. I have NO IDEA why that would be because on IG the results were very good (and the Sylk also seemed to make it a lot easier to get pg than Acijel did) and on paper it should be great for a pink sway. At this point I am not entirely sure what is going on, if it's even for reals or just a statistical quirk, and I would still use it with no qualms at all for TTC a girl, but I just wanted people to be aware.

[mrs magoo]

Have they changed formula at all? Is there another lube to use instead of sylk?

[atomic sagebrush]

you can use acijel or ky instead

[lulu_heart]

I used lime douche before and after dtd my first 2 attempts and sylk during dtd. (used a teaspoon) My ph was constantly rising during the night. Third attempt I skipped lime douche after dtd, used sylk during and inserted and swooshed around about 2 teaspoons of sylk straight after dtd. In the morning the sylk was still there and ph 4.5. So it kept it down all night. Im in the 2ww, but will remember to update. :).

[Hopeful37]

interesting. Aren't all these lubes suppose to be neutral? Thanks for the info. Still new at all this and taking a lot of notes before I attempt to start my sway in May

[Hopeful37]

what is PCOS? thanks :)

[atomic sagebrush]

interesting. Aren't all these lubes suppose to be neutral? Thanks for the info. Still new at all this and taking a lot of notes before I attempt to start my sway in May

No. Most lubes sway pink, only the ones sold as sperm safe and conception friendly sway blue.

[atomic sagebrush]

what is PCOS? thanks :)

Polycystic ovarian syndrome

[Hopeful37]

Well, that cleared up a lot!! Thank u. I would have never guessed that .

[atomic sagebrush]

bumping updated thread and for more responses

[Mama2many]

Well this was very interesting! I was doing Rephresh and Sylk with my youngest daughter. I ended up using the Rephresh a few days before I ovulated and used Sylk at bd.

Beaking it down....

Cd-10 used Rephresh
Cd-11 nothing
Cd-12 had sex used Sylk
Cd-13 had sex used Sylk - opk
Cd-14 ovulation day + opk

I was going to use Rephresh again this time a few days before ovulation and Sylk again but I'm cutting the Sylk out now. Glad I saw this.

I used lime with my 4th son btw (along with the IG diet).

[atomic sagebrush]

This is an old thread but I'd love to hear from people who used Sylk - especially if you got a boy! I no longer believe in the jellies AT ALL since I've seen gobs of boys conceived on them and our stats show pretty clearly that they are doing nothing at all to help a pink sway! Plus they are really cutting odds of conception to practically nothing!

Anyone?

[XXforhubby]

My DS3 we used Sylk and with my DD we used good ‘ol KY the water based version. For those that don’t know me, I swayed girl both of those times [emoji6].


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