Tell me your intuition was wrong!

[Lilyflower]

I’ve been in this site for quite a while and had many thought-provoking conversations about intuition and whether or not you can really “know” what you are having - especially if you have a strong preference for a specific gender.

I really would love to hear stories of your intuition being very strong... and totally wrong! Preferably where you thought you were not going to get your desired gender.

Since getting pregnant with #2, I have a strong (like crazy strong) feeling that it’s a boy and all I’ve ever wanted is a girl. With DS1, I had a feeling too and was right but this time, I have never felt more certain of anything in my life. I feel it in my bones. I just know beyond a shadow of a doubt and I’m trying to come to grips with it.

So any stories you can tell me of intuition being way off would be greatly appreciated!! Feel free to include anecdotes about friends or loved ones where this happened

[Nell_]

This happened to my cousin! She brought blue things too, even took blue out fits to hospital her sister brought boy clothes for the baby her intuition was so strong!! Nope sweet baby girl popped out chriatmas eve! You have NO way of knowing until you hold that baby in your arms if you don't find out in scan or nlood test ��try not to worry I know what you mean though. I always dreamt of one of each but just feel it won't happen and that my future says boys only! It's the strongest feeling but we really have no way of knowing ��

[Lilyflower]

This happened to my cousin! She brought blue things too, even took blue out fits to hospital her sister brought boy clothes for the baby her intuition was so strong!! Nope sweet baby girl popped out chriatmas eve! You have NO way of knowing until you hold that baby in your arms if you don't find out in scan or nlood test ��try not to worry I know what you mean though. I always dreamt of one of each but just feel it won't happen and that my future says boys only! It's the strongest feeling but we really have no way of knowing ��

Wow! So interesting!! She must have had such a strong feeling if she bought clothes and all - did she have a preference either way?

[atomic sagebrush]

I was 110% sure that DS 3 was a girl (and I had NO gender preference when I got pregnant with him. Everyone assumes that I secretly wanted a girl, but I was just happy to be having another baby after 13 years at the start of the pregnancy. It was the intuition being so strong that actually gave me the gender desire, not the other way around). And he is the boyingest boy who ever boyed.

We have one thread here where we talked about intuition but there was a reallly good one that I had earlier this year. Does anyone remember it?? Panther and I were talking about the studies that "claim" that intuition proves gender and I went thru and analyzed them, and it was really sketchy. Intuition doees not predict gender!

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and I talk to people literally every week who will argue with me telling me "I know it's an opposite, I feel it with every fiber of my being" who then turn around and are shocked they're really getting their DG!

[Lilyflower]

We have one thread here where we talked about intuition but there was a reallly good one that I had earlier this year. Does anyone remember it?? Panther and I were talking about the studies that "claim" that intuition proves gender and I went thru and analyzed them, and it was really sketchy. Intuition doees not predict gender!

Yes, we talked about this in my thread where I thought I ruined my sway and was sure it’s a boy. How do I link the thread? The article you included debunking the whole “mother’s intuition” thing is really interesting.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ah I think I can find it now that I know it was your thread, Lily.

To link threads you just copy and paste the stuff from the browser bar into the body of the post but lets see if I can do it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Here is the thread, I apparently never went back to find the study and now I can't get it to come up. But it's a legit study, I read both of them, it's just that finding studies often takes more time than I have. If anyone can find it please feel free to post it. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/66202-help-i-think-i-ruined-my-sway.html

[Nell_]

Wow! So interesting!! She must have had such a strong feeling if she bought clothes and all - did she have a preference either way?

No i dont think so! Was just a very strong intuition!

[Maureenhdez]

This is interesting! I wonder if it’s the same with intuition before pregnancy? I have been freaking out since last night, thinking that if I ttc this month it would prob end up being a boy. I didn’t feel that way at all last month, it was actually the opposite. I was so excited. Now I am terrified.

I was just thinking of all the things this past month that added up which may possibly sway boy ( 5 days of cheating, eating breakfast since I lost too much weight the months before, getting more sleep than usual because of being downstaffed at work, and less exercise this month because of being downstaffed at work, so I’m now working an average of 2 days a week 12 hour shifts as a nurse, instead of 3. And I stopped the extra day of exercise bc of the excess weight loss). We also did pullout 3 days ago and O is fast approaching. I was planning to BD tonight to have a 3 day cutoff. Now I’m getting really nervous I have too many sway tactics on the blue side [emoji17]

Do you think I should skip this month? And maybe try again next month instead? I woke up at 4:30 this morning worrying about it, was able to drift back to sleep, but can’t stop thinking about it. Is this my intuition or maybe God telling me to skip this month? Or is it just my fear?


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[atomic sagebrush]

I do not EVER recommend skipping months for intuition. I don't believe intuition tells us anything (please read my above link in which I go over the data on intution in detail) and it ESPECIALLY doesn't tell us anything when we have gender desire.

Now, if you're saying "should I skip this month because my sway may be weaker" again I"d say no unless you will live 1000 lifetimes of regret if you TTC this month and get an opposite. If you think you will, ok to skip it, BUT try to keep in mind that you can skip this month and then very well end up in a month that may be WORSE. We have no way to know if you're boy or girl friendly this month, and it could entirely be possible that you're skipping a good month in favor of a lesser month and you'd never know!

There is ALWAYS something that is less than ideal. Always.

[Maureenhdez]

Does it sound to you like my sway is weaker this month, since I had to take out a few things bc of the weight loss? Do you think I should add the exercise back in?

Also, should I BD tomorrow instead of tonight since we BD with pullout 3 days ago?


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[Pretty]

I would have bet the house this LO was a boy! Also, she was conceived with 1 attempt on O day. I didn’t exercise at all, I didn’t count calories or fat (definitely would have been over limits) but I did do vegetarian. I did heavily drink leading up to our attempt too.

[hopper]

My intuition was girl on DS1. Like Atomic, I think I gave myself a preference as the "intuition" was SO overwhelmingly strong!!
Knew in my bones DS2 was a boy but didn't trust myself after being so wrong on #1.
I fully believed DS3 was a girl because in my head the universe just owed me lol! Madness. I took that news particularly hard.
This time I had absolutely NO clue as to gender BUT from the moment I got that BFP I said to DH "I just have a feeling it's twins!" And I was right.
So my intuition on gender has been mostly wrong but I completely randomly knew I was having twins this time which I still find really strange lol.
I think the whole gender intuition thing becomes all skewed when you have a desire for a particular gender. I don't really think it can be trusted when you want a girl more than a boy and vice versa. Not saying that you can't be right, just that the heart wants what the heart wants and hope can be a dangerous thing at times.

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[Lilyflower]

My intuition was girl on DS1. Like Atomic, I think I gave myself a preference as the "intuition" was SO overwhelmingly strong!!
Knew in my bones DS2 was a boy but didn't trust myself after being so wrong on #1.
I fully believed DS3 was a girl because in my head the universe just owed me lol! Madness. I took that news particularly hard.
This time I had absolutely NO clue as to gender BUT from the moment I got that BFP I said to DH "I just have a feeling it's twins!" And I was right.
So my intuition on gender has been mostly wrong but I completely randomly knew I was having twins this time which I still find really strange lol.
I think the whole gender intuition thing becomes all skewed when you have a desire for a particular gender. I don't really think it can be trusted when you want a girl more than a boy and vice versa. Not saying that you can't be right, just that the heart wants what the heart wants and hope can be a dangerous thing at times.

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Wow isn’t that interesting that your intuition was right on with DS2 and about having twins but not with DS1.

I would love for my intuition to be wrong this time because your description of “feeling it in my bones” accurately describes how I feel that I’m having another boy. And it’s so funny because no matter how much I comfort myself through understanding it can be wrong, I can’t help but thinking I can’t possibly be wrong because of how strong I feel and how strong my intuition usually is.

Isn’t the brain a funny and crazy thing! But like you say, it truly can play tricks on you when you have a preference and project your fears as “knowledge “. At least that’s what I hope is happening to me!!

Congrats on your upcoming twins btw!! So exciting :)

[Nell_]

You could very well be right it's 50/50 will you be finding out, 😊

[2blue1pink]

I don't really believe in intuition at all. I thought all 3 boys were going to be a girl. And my very first pregnancy, we thought for sure our dd would be a boy. I even had a sonographer tell us she thought girl for DS1 based on nub theory. So...no.

Recently we had a patient who would have been an excellent candidate for Dr.Phil. She swore she was pregnant and had even felt movement. Um, no. Nothing.

[atomic sagebrush]

Does it sound to you like my sway is weaker this month, since I had to take out a few things bc of the weight loss? Do you think I should add the exercise back in?

Also, should I BD tomorrow instead of tonight since we BD with pullout 3 days ago?


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I think I'm too late to answer this.

Other than an act of God I never recommend postponing swaying because like I said above, for all we know we're skipping a better month in favor of a worse-er month. We just can't know and

Once you get the weight stable if you can manage to add exercise back in, great.

I don't quite follow your question. I don't understand why you'd BD tomorrow instead of tonight and what the BD with pullout has to do with it. I understand you've already done wahtever it was, but if you clarify for me then I can answer for upcoming months if the situation arises again.

[Maureenhdez]

I think I'm too late to answer this.

Other than an act of God I never recommend postponing swaying because like I said above, for all we know we're skipping a better month in favor of a worse-er month. We just can't know and

Once you get the weight stable if you can manage to add exercise back in, great.

I don't quite follow your question. I don't understand why you'd BD tomorrow instead of tonight and what the BD with pullout has to do with it. I understand you've already done wahtever it was, but if you clarify for me then I can answer for upcoming months if the situation arises again.

Thank you! I was looking back at a post I was reading that said to DTD e4d (or at least to avoid DTD until 4 days has passed from the last BD). But looking back, I think it was unprotected BD e4d, in which the pullout method wouldn’t count as a BD, if I understand correctly.

We ended up DTD that night, but I haven’t gotten O yet, so it would be at least a 5 day cutoff, and that’s if I magically O today[emoji53] so I’m prob out this month. At first, it looked like I would O as my opk started getting darker the following day, but then lightened up. They continue to go back and forth from dark to light over the past few days[emoji17]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, the pullout method does not count as an e4d attempt.

Have another attempt!! If t's been that long and you have not ovulated, please have another attempt.

[Maureenhdez]

I had thought that one attempt was suggested as part of a girl sway? I thought you would only do e4d as a last resort after months of not being able to conceive.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I had thought that one attempt was suggested as part of a girl sway? I thought you would only do e4d as a last resort after months of not being able to conceive.


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I like everyone to start off with one attempt and then after 2-3 months (or more, or less, depending on age and circumstance) then go to every 4 days. Not after many many months, no.

e4d still IS one attempt really though. the earlier aattempts are generally too far prior to the opening of the fertile window, and that leaves only one attempt that is really viable. Even in the "worst case" scenario of O-3 and O Day, if there was anything left from O-3 it will have fertilized the egg before the O Day shot could have capacitated and made it to the egg, and if there isn't, then the O Day shot will have a chance. It's just that I have more faith in the one true attempt (although the e4d has been getting good results, I think the one attempt is more proven) so I have you guys stick with that at first.

[Maureenhdez]

Ok thank you! My O seems to range anywhere from CD15-20, so it doesn’t make it easy to plan BD. I was trying to BD 3 days before my earliest O which would be CD12, but this month I O today (CD18), so a 5.5 day cutoff. That does make sense that maybe I wasn’t even in my fertile window with our attempt. I have heard of some conceiving 8 days before O[emoji50]

This is my 2nd month ttc. I would like to try to stick to one attempt if possible. Maybe I will have DH not do FR x 7 days prior and cut out shallow release(we have only been doing halfway shallow release, not full). I figured with me being 36 and him 42, it may prevent conception at all to do full shallow release.


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[Throwaway_panther]

Ah, Lily you and I are obsessed with the intuition, aren't we?

It's such a hard thing, especially when so many things can cloud it. I really struggle with intuition in general since I have a lot of other mental issues on top of that. With DD, DH swore she was a girl from BFP and was right, which threw me since he's not one at all for "feelings." I thought DD would be a girl too, and was right, but felt that way because I wanted a boy so bad and "never get what I want." so... intuition, or was it self fulfilling prophecy, you know?

Here I would way in hindsight my intuition did say boy for this pregnancy, but I've been so convinced otherwise since maybe early second trimester that I'm not sure how I ever thought it could be a boy. Mostly from dreams and scans and the same feeling -- life doesn't do me well, hard to believe it might start to.

So I don't know if anyone else has quite the same psychological obstacles as me in here, but I know for me intuition is a tricky bird for me even outside of gender.

[Blue2]

Ah, Lily you and I are obsessed with the intuition, aren't we?

It's such a hard thing, especially when so many things can cloud it. I really struggle with intuition in general since I have a lot of other mental issues on top of that. With DD, DH swore she was a girl from BFP and was right, which threw me since he's not one at all for "feelings." I thought DD would be a girl too, and was right, but felt that way because I wanted a boy so bad and "never get what I want." so... intuition, or was it self fulfilling prophecy, you know?

Here I would way in hindsight my intuition did say boy for this pregnancy, but I've been so convinced otherwise since maybe early second trimester that I'm not sure how I ever thought it could be a boy. Mostly from dreams and scans and the same feeling -- life doesn't do me well, hard to believe it might start to.

So I don't know if anyone else has quite the same psychological obstacles as me in here, but I know for me intuition is a tricky bird for me even outside of gender.

Intuition is such a fickle thing. Hindsight is 20/20 but even when people would ask me what my "boy names" were when I was pg but didn't yet know gender with DD, I always felt odd saying boy names. They felt like a lie when I would answer people. So I was disappointed but not surprised when genetic tests revealed DD was on the way.

We BD on Friday 11/30 and I haven't even had a +PT yet but I have the same insatiable salt cravings I did during the 2WW w/ DD back in May 2017. Reeeeeally hoping this is just my body trying to tell me to get more salt for implantation or something?

The logical part of my brain says "you've done hours worth of research, you've bought all kinds of tests & products to help sway blue, you have months worth of your biometric data running through algorithms to pinpoint your O-day, you've done all you can to get blue"

The emotional (pessimistic) side of my brain says "you know it doesn't matter, your husband is over 40 & smokes cigarettes, you already have a DD, you didn't know about HE dieting before dtd to ttc, so you're destined to have DD2"

[Throwaway_panther]

Intuition is such a fickle thing. Hindsight is 20/20 but even when people would ask me what my "boy names" were when I was pg but didn't yet know gender with DD, I always felt odd saying boy names. They felt like a lie when I would answer people. So I was disappointed but not surprised when genetic tests revealed DD was on the way.

We BD on Friday 11/30 and I haven't even had a +PT yet but I have the same insatiable salt cravings I did during the 2WW w/ DD back in May 2017. Reeeeeally hoping this is just my body trying to tell me to get more salt for implantation or something?

The logical part of my brain says "you've done hours worth of research, you've bought all kinds of tests & products to help sway blue, you have months worth of your biometric data running through algorithms to pinpoint your O-day, you've done all you can to get blue"

The emotional (pessimistic) side of my brain says "you know it doesn't matter, your husband is over 40 & smokes cigarettes, you already have a DD, you didn't know about HE dieting before dtd to ttc, so you're destined to have DD2"

Ah, your last paragraph really resonates with me! With DD, I at least felt the solace of finding this site and seeing how extreme I was swaying girl without knowing. With this baby, I can logically think of how vastly different me and DH's lifestyles were... but then come right back to reality of all the miscarriages we had while swaying, the IVF failures, etc.

Though in my "do as I say, not as I do" advice, I'd point out your salt cravings don't mean anything about gender... and afterall, the OWT is salty and sour mean boy, eh? Haha. Take heart!

[Parying4agirl]

I was totally off
I thought girl at my 18 weeks scan cos i thought i saw 3 lines but then i had more scans and truly believed i saw boy bits over and over again.
My heart said boy, i started looking for boy names, told my fam to be prepared for a boy as they were all jeering for a girl, even through to birth i felt boy... but hey shes all girl!!!!
My sickness was the same as ive had with the boys, even had dreams about having a girl which i had with the boys and old tale says the gender is opposite to the dream gender, so yes i was wrong 100%

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok thank you! My O seems to range anywhere from CD15-20, so it doesn’t make it easy to plan BD. I was trying to BD 3 days before my earliest O which would be CD12, but this month I O today (CD18), so a 5.5 day cutoff. That does make sense that maybe I wasn’t even in my fertile window with our attempt. I have heard of some conceiving 8 days before O[emoji50]

This is my 2nd month ttc. I would like to try to stick to one attempt if possible. Maybe I will have DH not do FR x 7 days prior and cut out shallow release(we have only been doing halfway shallow release, not full). I figured with me being 36 and him 42, it may prevent conception at all to do full shallow release.


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But they didn't though. They think they did, but they ovulated earlier than they think they did.

Please always cut out shallow release. It really cuts conception and has never been shown to sway anyway.

Yes I prefer you guys drop things like FR first. I'd have him do regular release every 2-4 days instead.

[clarkrl2]

Mine was! I was so certain my second was a girl because everything was so different. I was even calling the baby she and her.

[Maureenhdez]

Ok thanks! I will have him do that and make those changes. [emoji4]


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