TTC Girl - March 2012

[littlemissnaughty7]

i would say lassie that you ovulated on cd 15/16 as they say its between the dip and the rise of temps hun,

[dee]

Hi Dee! Welcome :)
There is also a March 2ww thread! Join in there as well :)

Fingers crossed for a positive for you very soon!thankyou lassie and i will have a look at the 2ww thread:happy:

[dee]

welcome, mydream and dee :Dthankyou nks798

[prayforprincess]

oh hope&dream I am so sorry. I thought for sure you would get your bfp. Its a new month and lets pray that March is our month. I am so sorry and I know how you are feeling, it is so discouraging. It just makes me wanna throw all this swaying stuff out the window and bang it out just to see the bfp - but then I remember how much I want a girl. But it hurts, I know. Hang in there -- I am praying for all of us this month.

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks Pray for princess! I'll know for 100% tomorrow.

I've posted a revised plan in the members swaying section would love everyones feedback.

[PeonyPrincess]

Hope, you must be dying for those hours to tick past. Still holding out hope for you, as you did for me.

I have been a bit distracted everyone else. I will reply to posts later. Just to let you know that last night I got a BFP! Haven't even told DH yet as he is away. I think I might take him out to dinner on Saturday night and tell him. He is normally a big drinker and in February he didn't drink to raise money for a good cause. I will tell him that must be why his swimmers finally worked!

Lassie, it sounds like you O on CD15 from what you have described.

[Mochagirl]

Sorry, Hope - I really wanted this to be your month.

[_Lala_]

Omg!! Congratulations Peony!!:running:What wonderfully exciting news! I am so happy for you! here's hoping that BFP luck continues for the rest of us. Go stuff your face full of chocolate cake, hot chips and the like. What a great surprise for your dh when he gets home!

[Mochagirl]

Congrats, Peonyprincess!!!! That's great news!

[PeonyPrincess]

Thanks Lala. I hope everyone else gets a BFP soon. I am always so much more disappointed for everyone elses BFNs then I was my own.

[PeonyPrincess]

Thanks Mocha. It has not sunk in yet. Maybe if I get some symptoms it will.

[Lassie1982]

OMG pp that is fantastic!!!!!
I'd put a ton of emoticons in here but I'm at work on tap a talk so I can't.
But woooohooooo so happy for you!!!!!
Massive congrats chick - brilliant news :)

[KraizyDaizy]

Hooooraaaaay pp! Congrats on you pink dream. Refresh me on your sway if u have a moment?

[dannikins]

HUGE CONGRATS PP:cheerteam:

[_Lala_]

Yes Peony you must write your attempt down in the sway forum, would love to read it through. Have you got any symptoms yet?

[PeonyPrincess]

Thank you! KD, I was thinking I should post my sway but will wait until I am at least past when AF is due I think.

I'll see if I can do a short version...I am already struggling to remember a few things as I had moved on to planning my next attempt in my mind.

Ended up with a 3 day cut off. (Did not plan this but I O very late). I have to ask DH how many times he released leading up to our attempts. He still doesn't know about the BFP, so I'll ask him on Saturday. In January he had been releasing every second day just to keep sperm as healthy and fresh as possible. I doubt he would have done it as often in Feb as he was not drinking any alcohol and was very busy at work. We did 2 attempts. CD14 (PM). I just fell asleep afterwards. And CD15 (AM). I stayed in bed for 20mins afterwards, just lying there praying. I had been an emotional wreck on CD14 as I didn't know what was going on with my cycle (no +OPK) and was very teary which was unusual for me. I did not use anything. No rephresh, no sylk. Just decided to leave it up to my body. I had barely any EWCM all cycle. My pH was always around 4.4 when I used to test it but I haven't been checking for a while. My temp spiked high on CD19, so FF says I O on CD18 (latest ever- it was my earliest ever in Jan- crazy cycles!) I had been on the a-gender diet since the 1st of Jan. They don't say to cut out meat, but I had. No alcohol, no chocolate. I pretty much ate the opposite of what I normally do. Made things from scratch and did not snack between meals on junk like I normally do. I lost about 3.5kg (7lbs), so I weighed 53kg. I would have been a similar weight when I conceived my boys though.
I O in a new moon phase but was also hoping to O in a girl moon. But it looks like it was a boy moon. I have a feeling it is another boy already, but it is not bothering me. I think I was just really ready to be pg. I will be 35 in April.
Did not get any pg symptoms in the 2WW. Ended up testing at the end of the day at 10DPO and discovered I had a really dark line. Was not expecting it one little bit. Sorry, not as short as I had planned. I was always good at uni assignments...I am good at crapping on!

[PeonyPrincess]

Lala, today (11DPO), my boobs are a bit tender. But I used to get that before AF anyway. I also used to get spotting from 9 or 10DPO, and I have not had any. My naturopath put me on vitex and vit B6 to help the spotting and sore boobs. This was my second month taking vit B6, but I had been on the vitex since October 2011. It had not stopped the spotting on its own, so she'd said to include B6 as well.
I forgot to mention what I was taking. The above, plus a multivitamin with folic acid, and fish oil capsules. And a zinc tablet at night. Not the recommended girl things mostly, but good for a healthy egg, mum and bub!

[sweetsister]

Hope, you must be dying for those hours to tick past. Still holding out hope for you, as you did for me.

I have been a bit distracted everyone else. I will reply to posts later. Just to let you know that last night I got a BFP! Haven't even told DH yet as he is away. I think I might take him out to dinner on Saturday night and tell him. He is normally a big drinker and in February he didn't drink to raise money for a good cause. I will tell him that must be why his swimmers finally worked!

Lassie, it sounds like you O on CD15 from what you have described.

:wave: Hi everyone :wave:just want to say congratulations to peonyprincess:cheer:!!!
Im on cd8 and finished my clomid finally and dont intend to use it again,its giving me terrible hot and cold flashes this month,Anyone else doing a clomid cycle this month?
I just saw on msn about this huge solar storm that will affect us the next 3 days aah! I hope it doesnt affect us for ttc a girl ill be attempting around 14 15 16 th? I was sure March was a good girl month but with this i wonder?

[HappyLea]

:cheerteam: CONGRATULATIONS Peony!!! We will be due days apart lets hope we get our :DD:

[PeonyPrincess]

Thanks sweetsister and HappyLea. Sweetsister, that clomid does sound like it causes some horrible symptoms for some women. Was it Hope that said she found it better to take it at night? I know nothing about solar flares. How interesting. FX the clomid will do its trick for you and the others this month and then you will soon forget about how horrible it is.

HappyLea, the doctor will probably say my EDD is 15th of November, based on LMP. I say it is the 18th because I know my O date. What is yours?

[HappyLea]

I think dr will give me 9th November from LMP but i think it is 13th November from 0 date :D so we are probably about 5 days apart :D

I do hope it was :pinksperm: that got to our eggs

I got my 1st dr appt on Monday to be refered to Midwife team, its still hasnt really sunk in yet. I only have a sore left boob and i feel nauseous at times but eating normally solves that for me. You getting any symptoms?

[nks798]

ahh! how exciting, congrats PP! :D

[littlemissnaughty7]

YAY YAY YAY !!!!! CONGRATS PP HUNI, IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU GO EAT THE HOUSE OUT LOL !!

[littlemissnaughty7]

AFM my temps are still high so im still waiting to see if i did indeed O or that this cold is making them that way, by the looks of things il be O'ing in the full moon next time eeeek !!

[mydream]

Thanks for the warm welcome ladies!

[prayforprincess]

Congrat PP!! So happy for you! Hopefully its your little :DD: in there!

[littlemissnaughty7]

your welcome mydream we are a great bunch of gender dreamers on this thread x

[auroara78]

Peony, how exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am SO THRILLED for you!!!!! Whooo hoooooo whooo hooooo!!

Praying for a :DD: for you, but I do love how you just wanted to be pg and I know you'd love a lovely bundle of blue too!

I still think your sway sounds good, and you did the right things with the diet for sure! November is a beautiful birth month!

[littlemissnaughty7]

when is your scan auroara hun ?

[auroara78]

My OB doesn't do a 12 week NT scan, so I won't have my gender scan until 19 weeks, which will be last week of April. I've already got it planned since DS2 turns 1 on the 29th, we'll have his party on Sat., April 28th, and I'll try to find out that week leading up to his party, because I want to announce it to my family at his party what the baby is.

I'd rather know if it's a boy or girl and then announce it instead of having my oldest sister ridiciule me during his party about how I'll never get a girl, and I'm bound to have all boys, yada, yada, I'd rather just say "the baby is________" Instead of going thru his party with speculation, I think that would just make me more tense.

And yes, I love my family, but they are psycho like that, the party is about DS2, but they will corner me in my house somewhere, and berate me about the new baby's gender, because everyone is so invested in this concept. My mom only has ONE grand daughter and TWELVE grandsons. The first one born was my niece Katie. Even my brother, who is usually cool and chill and doesn't really care about this stuff, said on the phone to me the other day: "It would be nice if you had a girl since then they would the book ends of the family, and all the boys would be in the middle."

I know if I am having a girl, my oldest sister will be pissy (she's the only one with the one girl, so whatever) because she has this ego thing that she's the only one that was able to have a girl, and she likes having that title, or being special like that....I think my other sister will be really happy for me, but it might bring back some of her own GD issues (she has 4 boys, whom she loves and adores, but she really, really wanted a girl.)

Anyway, sorry for the novel, but as you can see, the gender issue is very fraught in my family! It just makes my own gender desire/disappointment worst, because I am the kind of person who wants to please other people and I feel if I don't have a girl, I will let down my whole family, though I know I'd love my little bundle of blue :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

that would drive me crazy not to have a 12 week scan, could you not book one privately somewhere ?

its exactley the same in my family apart from all my 3 sisters have at least 1 girl im the only one with none, my one sister sounds the same as yours she can be quite pissy too as she is the only one with 2 girls (and 1 boy) in the family and she doesnt like me very much as im the littlest one (shes the next littlest) my other 2 sisters are lovely and when i do get pregnant will be praying i have a girl because they know how long ive wanted this,

[nks798]

auroara78, I understand that. my mother-in-law wants a girl badly. she has 4 grandsons.. but she does have 2 daughters of her own. she's always said even if she doesn't get a granddaughter, at least she had 2 daughters herself. I really want to be able to give her a granddaughter though. I have 1 niece.. so my mother is covered on that. my mother in law would do flips if we had a girl. I just really want to make her happy on her dreams of a girl! hopefully all of us ladies get a BFP and PINK soon :)

[HopeandDreamG]

Peonyprincess~ I am sooooooooo thrilled for you, as you know!!! I am so happy, its really cool that is was so unexpected too. You totally thought you were out! Hoping you are over the moon :)

I had mentioned taking the clomid at night before bed. Someonw suggested it to me, forgot who. I didn't have any symptoms-don't know if I would of otherwise, but its worth a try.

Just got back from the blood lab. Will know this afternoon for 100%, I already know its a BFN, temp is pre-O 97.5, and HPT BFN this am, AF due tomorrow, hoping it comes right on time, so a fresh start can begin! Not feeling too bummed. I work this afternoon, so hopefully doc leaves a message on my cell, and I'll post as soon as I know- its a def BFN (it is)

[mydream]

Big Congrats Peony!!!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

i hope its a shy BFP H&D hun, have you had any symptoms at all ??

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss~ I'm pretty sure its not a shy one- temps are pre O temps. 2dpo I had major thirst and for several days, but I came down with a sinus infection. And for a few days I felt fluterring in the pelvic area! There's no way. I have a break later from work at 4:45 I'll call doc they should know by then.

[sweetsister]

Peonyprincess~ I am sooooooooo thrilled for you, as you know!!! I am so happy, its really cool that is was so unexpected too. You totally thought you were out! Hoping you are over the moon :)

I had mentioned taking the clomid at night before bed. Someonw suggested it to me, forgot who. I didn't have any symptoms-don't know if I would of otherwise, but its worth a try.

Just got back from the blood lab. Will know this afternoon for 100%, I already know its a BFN, temp is pre-O 97.5, and HPT BFN this am, AF due tomorrow, hoping it comes right on time, so a fresh start can begin! Not feeling too bummed. I work this afternoon, so hopefully doc leaves a message on my cell, and I'll post as soon as I know- its a def BFN (it is)

Hi hopeandreamg i have already been taking clomid at nights the first time i did one in morning and one at night i had extremely bad headaches and a few hot flashes at night,this time i took 2x at night and no headaches just wicked mood swings ,leg cramps and flashes all day,so im thinking the second round isnt as bad as the first.It feels like poison pills i really hate the stuff thnk god im done:)
Fx for you Hon:)

[HopeandDreamG]

Are the symptoms just on the days you take them? or through the whole cycle?? That sounds really tough. If I had to think hard I would say the only thing I noticed was being a bit more emotional...like more easily tearful-in a good way though. Like getting tearful in expression of appreciation to a friend etc. iykwim.... Hoping you get a BFP soon and don't have to deal. Where are you with attempts?

[sweetsister]

Are the symptoms just on the days you take them? or through the whole cycle?? That sounds really tough. If I had to think hard I would say the only thing I noticed was being a bit more emotional...like more easily tearful-in a good way though. Like getting tearful in expression of appreciation to a friend etc. iykwim.... Hoping you get a BFP soon and don't have to deal. Where are you with attempts?

My symptoms were the last 2 days taking pills and few days after that so far...oh i get like these yelling outbursts where i cant control myself LoL ,like dh better not even TRY argue with me:nono:this only hit me the second time taking it though ,oh and my boobs hurt too!!
And i should be attempting around the 14th-17.Your lucky your o.k with yours i hope you wont need to do it again too:luck:

[HopeandDreamG]

I pretty much know I'll be taking it again, so will see if month 2 on it is different. I'll keep you posted!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey H&D did you get your results hun ?

[prayforprincess]

To all you Ladies taking clomid:
Does taking clomid make you ovulate earlier, later or the same time?
Can you take supplements with it or no?

[littlemissnaughty7]

well with my 3 past O's on clomid it was cd 16, cd 17, and cd 19, with my fake O this last round of clomid it was cd 13, so to be honest i havent got a clue lol, i take clomid, folic acid, acidophilus and aspirin.
but i do know your not allowed to take saw palmetto or vitex with it,

[prayforprincess]

do you need to take zyrtec or no? the clomid dries u up?

Also, I know it is supposed to sway girl -- do any of you ladies know someone who had a boy taking clomid?

I am just curious in all this info about it b/c if I do not conceive this month I think I might take it next month (even tho i don't need it) if it really sways girl a lot.

[HopeandDreamG]

hey H&D did you get your results hun ?

Didn't read anything will tomorrow. Late night working, had a minute, just wanted to tell you ladies that its a BFN spoke to doc. I knew it, here we go March! Now just hoping AF shows on schedule-due tomorrow.... catch up later

[Mochagirl]

Sorry for the BFN, Hope! :HH:

[prayforprincess]

We all are sorry Hope...March is our month!

So I was thinking of adding an attempt to my plan. Have to do it carefully since we are abstaining. So what do you ladies think of this:
We dtd the night of my +opk after dh having abstained for over 9 days. I lay there for 90 minutes, get up & wipe and use a tiny fingertip of replens. Then 90 minutes later we dtd again. Lay there for 10 minutes then up and wipe.

I was thinking maybe that 1 hour after the 2nd attempt I could apply another tiny fingertip replens, go to bed and dtd 1 more time (a 3rd time in 10 hours) at 6am before my dh goes to work.

Thoughts?? Maybe I should just stick to the 2 attempts back to back since I am abstaining and knock out the am attempt. Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

[sweetsister]

do you need to take zyrtec or no? the clomid dries u up?

Also, I know it is supposed to sway girl -- do any of you ladies know someone who had a boy taking clomid?

I am just curious in all this info about it b/c if I do not conceive this month I think I might take it next month (even tho i don't need it) if it really sways girl a lot.

It hasnt changed my o day to earlier or later but everyone reacts different to it.
And it sways girl because it dries up cm and makes it thick and hostile ,for this reason,but that also make it difficult to get pregnant at all,and you might have to use lubes which are boy friendly,then you are kind of back where u started IMO?If you dont need it i wouldnt take it,and i had creamy cm doing the diet alone so better off without it ?

[sweetsister]

Didn't read anything will tomorrow. Late night working, had a minute, just wanted to tell you ladies that its a BFN spoke to doc. I knew it, here we go March! Now just hoping AF shows on schedule-due tomorrow.... catch up later

Aw sorry Hon! Ill be here still waiting,we are on opposite ends of our cycles and keep running into each other hey,everytime your out im starting and vice versa!

[sweetsister]

To all you Ladies taking clomid:
Does taking clomid make you ovulate earlier, later or the same time?
Can you take supplements with it or no?

I found this info Atomic posted about clomid and supplements...
Clomid with other supplements - DO NOT take Clomid with any other supplements that affect hormones (peppermint tea, soy, vitex, saw palmetto, licorice, green tea, cohosh, and any of those Chinese herbs that we're really not too sure about). Clomid affects a very delicate balance of hormones and triggers a chain of cascading hormonal reactions and we do not want to interfere with any of those. Some hormonal herbal supplements will actually render the Clomid inactive.

That having been said, some people have taken vitex for an entire month or more (so AF-AF, every day without stopping) and then stopped the vitex on CD 1 and begun Clomid THAT month after having been on the vitex non-stop for an entire month or longer. I know of two people who did conceive baby girls doing this. Be sure that if you choose to take vitex all month, you use reliable birth control and do not TTC while taking vitex from O-af. Vitex is not safe to take during pg.

[KraizyDaizy]

3DPO hurry up TWW!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Hey everyone! Thanks for all the well-wishes. I was reading what you all said about the families. No-one in mine has any idea I was even TTC, let alone sway. They will be very surprised to say the least. My MIL will be very vocal about wanting it to be a girl. She has 4 grandsons and has always made her hope of a grand-daughter very clear. We are going on holiday in a week and she will be there. I don't want to tell her, but as I typically drink a lot of wine I think she will spot it a mile away.
Hope, it has got to be March. It just has to. Sorry you had to go through the long wait and get a sore arm and be told it was not good news.
KD, hopefully it will only be a 1WW and you will get that BFP.
LMN7, was it you that asked about anyone having a boy while on clomid? It was a few pages back and I can't remember. Anyway, I know Lemon had a boy on clomid. It is not 100% of course, but does sway really well for girls. My best friend had to take it for her first child (a girl) and didn't need it to conceive no.2 (a boy).
I look forward to checking in to see how you are all going with attempts and the waiting game.

[KraizyDaizy]

Okay so this has never happened that I can remember since I have been checking my cervix. My cervix is so high that I cannot even feel it? is this a sign of pregnancy? I mean I know I am just 3dpo, but it's not like me not to be able to at least touch it the slightest little bit. Just wondered if any of you pregnant ladies might be have had this happen. I am just so hopeful and my DH is already wanting to tell people we r pregnant before we even know. He is just too funny. He will be so disappointed cause he really tried this time with minimal whining about DTD multiple times.

[atomic sagebrush]

Kraisy, how sure are you that you ovulated before?? I would have another attempt in case you're Oing NOW. That's usu. the cause of high cervix - ovulation.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi guys, PFP i had 2 boys on clomid but i was taking other boy friendly supplements the main one being flaxseed linseed which is a major boy sway (it makes your cm very stretchy)

hope im sorry about the BFN hopefully your AF will come tomorrow and you can start again,

AFM my temp is still high WTH !!! so i have started the drug to induce a bleed yet as i may have ovulated, but i do have a cold..... anyone on here have a cold before if so what did it do to your temps ??

[littlemissnaughty7]

KD mine only does that at ovulation hun,

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraisy, how sure are you that you ovulated before?? I would have another attempt in case you're Oing NOW. That's usu. the cause of high cervix - ovulation.

Well I thought I was very sure. On cd14 +OPK pains started around 11pm, cd15 PEAK on monitor with major O pains from 6pm to midnight or so, cd16 no pains watery cm, cd17 no pains creamy cm, cd18 no pains creamy cm. Check out my chart, you think I am OING NOW! I am at work and will not be able to till after 5pm grrrrrrhhhhh! really could I be?

[KraizyDaizy]

KD mine only does that at ovulation hun,

so you can't even feel yours at O? I am a little freaked out that I need to DTD but I am at work!!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

you could be double ovulating hun, but your chart def sugests you ovulated,

[KraizyDaizy]

you could be double ovulating hun, but your chart def sugests you ovulated,

I guess the Clomid can do that? also would I not be having O pains or something? and my cm is creamy or I think that is what it is? crazy!!!

[auroara78]

Can you leave work early and tackle your DH? Or go home or your lunch break for an "afternoon delight?"

[KraizyDaizy]

Can you leave work early and tackle your DH? Or go home or your lunch break for an "afternoon delight?"

I did mention lunch to him so maybe so or just right at 5pm when I get off work. I checked it again and it is coming down I think as I felt just the tip of it. I also sent a message to the forums at FF to see what they thought about me Oing twice.

[sweetsister]

I did mention lunch to him so maybe so or just right at 5pm when I get off work. I checked it again and it is coming down I think as I felt just the tip of it. I also sent a message to the forums at FF to see what they thought about me Oing twice.

When you ovulate twice though it happens within a 24 hour period of the first time,so i bet you are oing now:)

[KraizyDaizy]

When you ovulate twice though it happens within a 24 hour period of the first time,so i bet you are oing now:)

shouldn't I feel something if I am indeed Oing again? and my cm is creamy so I just don't know, but will definitely catch my DH as soon as I step into the door this evening!!!! should I use an OPK would that show anything? My monitor just said HIGH for today and you can hardly see a second line. The surge for sure had a second prominent line for my PEAK.

Atomic, how can you tell if you are Oing twice?

[sweetsister]

Hmm you never know just cover your bases..its a good sign anyways:)

[KraizyDaizy]

Hmm you never know just cover your bases..its a good sign anyways:)

Not sure I know what I feel about Oing twice, that is if I am. If so that would mean I am Oing in the Full Boy Moon phase and I was so hoping to stay in the New Girl Moon grrrhhh!

[HopeandDreamG]

To all you Ladies taking clomid:
Does taking clomid make you ovulate earlier, later or the same time?
Can you take supplements with it or no?

You can't take SP or Vitex with clomid. For 6 weeks up to my attempt I took them and stopped at CD1, but now that I got a BFN, SP and Vitex are out! The supps I take it with clomid are acidopholus, folic acid, and baby aspirin.

[HopeandDreamG]

do you need to take zyrtec or no? the clomid dries u up?

Also, I know it is supposed to sway girl -- do any of you ladies know someone who had a boy taking clomid?

I am just curious in all this info about it b/c if I do not conceive this month I think I might take it next month (even tho i don't need it) if it really sways girl a lot.

You DO NOT need zyrtec. I had ABSOLUTELY NO cm. Couldn't even get from my cervix-nothing!

[HopeandDreamG]

I guess the Clomid can do that? also would I not be having O pains or something? and my cm is creamy or I think that is what it is? crazy!!!

High cervix=O'ing. Don't think CM consistency is reliable with clomid. Maybe 2nd egg...get it girl!

[HopeandDreamG]

:rofl: and may I ask what do you do for work that you can be checking your cervix? LOL

[KraizyDaizy]

:rofl: and may I ask what do you do for work that you can be checking your cervix? LOL

Well there is a bathroom you know LOL!!! I always check it no matter where I am LOL!!! I am an accountant LOL!!!! Constantly checking and rechecking everything including my cervix LOL!!!!:giggle:

[Princess of Pink]

Well there is a bathroom you know LOL!!! I always check it no matter where I am LOL!!! I am an accountant LOL!!!! Constantly checking and rechecking everything including my cervix LOL!!!!:giggle:

I do the same thing at work too...10am every day I POAS and check my cervix!! LOL...I work at a University in the Department of Oral Health and Medicine. They have antibacterial hand soap rofl

[HopeandDreamG]

I do the same thing at work too...10am every day I POAS and check my cervix!! LOL...I work at a University in the Department of Oral Health and Medicine. They have antibacterial hand soap rofl

Hysterical, and I love your baby duster...wanting to post under you to get some-and I want all your pink dust :)

Kraisy~that is too funny :)

[Princess of Pink]

Hysterical, and I love your baby duster...wanting to post under you to get some-and I want all your pink dust :)

Take it and run with it...I have so much it's not funny!! Even my friends all have girls...I have a few on girl #3 threatening to end the friendship so that they get a boy! I have never been friends with someone who gave birth to a boy...I am bad luck hehehehehehe

[HopeandDreamG]

POP~ will you be my new best friend?

[littlemissnaughty7]

aggghhh princess of pink can i be your best friend please lol,

[HopeandDreamG]

She's mine littlemiss! LOL

[auroara78]

LOL Little miss & Hope and Dreams...

and KD, did you ever get your husband to come to "lunch"? hehehehe

[KraizyDaizy]

LOL Little miss & Hope and Dreams...

and KD, did you ever get your husband to come to "lunch"? hehehehe

He is a stay-at-home dad, but still has hectic days with our 3 1/2 year old, and today was very busy for him. So many things to do and so little time, so we did not have an afternoon delight. But I will get it when I get home LOL!!!

[auroara78]

Awesome! Go frisk him tonight, tiger!

[dannikins]

KRAIZY

i could never find my cervix either!
at any time in my cycle, its like it kind of hides around a corner if that makes sense....

[KraizyDaizy]

KRAIZY

i could never find my cervix either!
at any time in my cycle, its like it kind of hides around a corner if that makes sense....

Well I think I am finding it LOL!!! Mine is tilted, backwards or what ever so it is hard to get too. When I had my HSG for my third pregnancy, they had to literally prop my booty up on a stack of towels to get to it. Once they did, that was some pain!

[KraizyDaizy]

Okay, DTD and I hope it was not too late!

[KraizyDaizy]

I got my response from FF in the VIP question section and I asked about me ovulating twice, she gave me this response:

Hi! The positive OPKs suggest O should fall somewhere from day 14 to 17 and with more temps we could see that O date bump over some more (it's possible). BUT does it mean you're ovulating twice? No. We can release more than one egg in a cycle, but when that happens it usually happens within 24 hours of one another and does not reflect on a chart.

So who knows, but what about more temps moving my O date, can this happen? Look at my chart and tell me if you think so too?

[prayforprincess]

I had to catch up with you girls as I was getting my hair done all afternoon. I laughed reading the last 3 pages. I need pop to be my bff too!
Kraizy -- I think you did the right thing bd-ing again. You can never be too sure.
I can never ever find my cervix. I reach up there and I don't know what I am feeling -- its all squishy to me. I can't tell the difference between low and high. It all feels the same to me. I have to go by my cm, not my cervix. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
So I think I have decided to add 1-2 more attempts. All on the same night tho. We dtd on +opk or the night before (if I see that it is almost positive) and then dtd 3 hours later, and then dtd for the 3rd time at 6am. So 3 times in 10 hours., tiny tiny bit of replens in between attempts. Since we are abstaining that ensures that his sperm count will be really low every time since I am giving it no time to juice up again.
Do you girls think this is good?

[dannikins]

kraizy, i had a look at your chart, and im thinking CD 15 or maybe 16.
and looks like you are more than covered for BD...:)

i know when i couldnt find my cervix, i mentioned it of FF, and they said for some women, it can take a a few days to come back down, and that i should keep cheking at different stages in my cycle.
i checked all over the place but still couldnt find the bloody thing.....
its like its hiding towards my belly button, and i cant reach around to get to it.

[Princess of Pink]

Maybe I have had too many kids and my cervix is falling out...cause when not O'ing it's really low....I don't even have to reach for it at all lol...my finger is not even all the way in and I can feel it. When I O it goes real high though and I have to do yoga style poses to reach it!!

I will be bffl with all of you...hopefully then there will be no pink dust left for me!!

I know I'm not meant to be in this section of the forum....but I feel like this is the only place I will ever have a successful sway rofl :giggle:

[_Lala_]

Yay Pop, thanks for being BFFs with all of us...I need all the help n pink dust I can get! And you can have my blue dust. When are you attempting for your blue?
Dont get me started on the cervix. Sometimes it's easy to find n sometimes I can go all the way
past it and it feels like its to one side, really weird. I just hope my opks are accurate so I can go by them because relying on CP isn't always that reliable.
I am cd10 now, just want the next week to hurry up so we can get started. But at the same time I am starting to feel really nervous n worried. I had a peek on the UK SMOG forum (even though I'm from Australia) n there are a lot of women on there who didn't get their pink bundle and are really struggling with GD. It's like a snapshot into my life if this baby is a blue one. I keep get really emotional thinking about the anguish n devastation I will feel if I don't get my girl. This is seriously torture. I want to stay as positive as I can but it really all comes down to luck and that scares the hell out of me!:tissue:

[amari]

Hey, ladies! So sorry I have been MIA lately. It has been hard for me to be on the computer too much, I was sick and we are having some issues at home with one of my kids too. HOpe everyone is doing well! I hope to be able to be on here more now and KIT! Amari

[KraizyDaizy]

4dpo, hurry up and implant little girl!!! :pinksperm:

I am to the point in this game that I will be happy with another boy as well. I look at my 3 year old and he just melts me, so another would do the same I am sure. It will just be sad to know the dream of pink is over.

I have also been doing some CSI detective work with my friends who have girls/boys and I am starting to think that swaying just does not work. I mean my friend has 5 girls and her diet is all meat and salty the entire time, so why does she not have at least one boy?

Another friend just found out that she is having a boy. At 15 weeks 3 days there is a definate wee wee there. This baby was not planned and she was does not eat meat at all!!! She does have a girl that is 12 years old though and she is over the moon excited she got the boy she was not even trying!!! He should have been a girl right?????

Anyways, this is why I am not swaying too hard at all anymore. Two years is enough!

I pray you all get your dream come true and if you don't I pray your little boy becomes the dream you didn't know you couldn't live without.:baby:

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all how are we well i have bloody sinusitus agin not sure if that can give you a high temp but ive got one, i cant taste anything or smell anything it stinks ! still waiting on temps to come down so i can start my drug to make me bleed, its taking forever !!!

pop stay with us as long as you like huni hopefully our blue dust will rub off on you and your pink dust will rub off on us lol,


lala dont be scared huni just look at all the people that do get there pink and blue bundles, all we can do is our best but the more you stress and worry that will not help hun, i dont know if it will help you but its helped me... i thought of a lovely boys name to call our next bundle if it is a boy (i hope its not) but just to see hoe id feel, and i picked a lovely name and now i close my eyes and i see him a tiny little blue bundle and it makes me smile and i dont feel scared as if i dont get my princess next il get him instead, just a thought hun ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

amari hi hun, havnt seen you in a while, did you attempt this month ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

does anyone use any seasonings.... i know they have mrs dash in america but what about the uk ?

[sweetsister]

I was wondering if you were attempting too Amari ?
Kraizy i hear u:) i think this just tips the scale the diet in your favor a bit more ,but really its just a game of luck 50/50 chance of girl,boy. But it at least makes me feel brave enough to try for it,honestly im not sure if i would if there wasnt a diet or something to make me confident just a little bit that ill get a girl ,you know?

[sweetsister]

I ordered mrs dash on ebay from a company that has food items from the u.s.,and they are uk based.I love mrs.Dash and im totally addicted to it now !And use it even off the diet.But before i had that i just used alot of black pepper:p

[littlemissnaughty7]

aggggggghhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! i just read that mrs dash original has onion in it were not allowed onion !!!!!!

[prayforprincess]

littlemiss- I use Mr.Dash. The onion does not matter - the amount of onion that you eat in Mr. Dash will not hurt your sway in the least.
My girlfriend loves onions, uses onions on everything - raw, cooked -- whatever. She is having her 2nd girl in 3 weeks.
A little onion cannot sway one way or another -- especially the powder that is in Mrs. Dash.

[sweetsister]

So listen to this, i just remembered what happened last night and it kinda spooked me,i fell asleep on the couch woke up and started looking for my sister,i then couldnt find her so went to my DH office downstairs opened his door and asked him where she is?His eyes were huge ,he was like WHAT?My sister lives in another country!!!i was sleep walking,but i remember all of it and knew what i was doing?Until i asked for her i didnt realize what i was asking and snapped out of it,I have never done this in my life,do you think it is a side affect from the clomid?My hormones out of balance maybe?Sleepwalking!!!Or maybe im just losing it? :bigsmile:

[Lassie1982]

You can pretty much count me in as a March ttc.
BFN in 12dpo, no symptoms, temps still high but im sure I would have had to have had a bfp, or some symptom at least by now.
So now af just needs to arrive, hurry up out of the way so I can get down to starting again.

I think I'm going to keep things pretty much the same for this month, there is nothing that I feel I want to change.

Best of luck to all :)

[KraizyDaizy]

sorry to hear that Lassie, but you know it's not over till AF shows her ugly face! Rooting for you!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

sweetsister that could be a side effect from the clomid i had a weird experience too recently i was crossing the road with my son in his pushchair and i walked out in front of a car at a crossing, i said sorry but then i did it again straight away on the other side of the crossing, it was really weird it was like i didnt know what i was doing !!!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

So listen to this, i just remembered what happened last night and it kinda spooked me,i fell asleep on the couch woke up and started looking for my sister,i then couldnt find her so went to my DH office downstairs opened his door and asked him where she is?His eyes were huge ,he was like WHAT?My sister lives in another country!!!i was sleep walking,but i remember all of it and knew what i was doing?Until i asked for her i didnt realize what i was asking and snapped out of it,I have never done this in my life,do you think it is a side affect from the clomid?My hormones out of balance maybe?Sleepwalking!!!Or maybe im just losing it? :bigsmile:

Sweetsister, the only times I have ever sleep-walked have been while I was pg. So I wouldn't mind betting it is a hormone thing. DH is a really light sleeper, so he would find me wandering around the house and send me back to bed!

[PeonyPrincess]

KD, when you were asking about CP when pg I decided to see what mine was like now. It is definitely not as high as when I O, kind of somewhere in the middle, and it feels like the shop is shut for business! I think it is great that you got in that extra attempt. It can't hurt. FX for you this month.

[PeonyPrincess]

Lala, I hope you can relax this week and be really happy with your sway. I was really emotional right around when I was TTC in Feb which is unusual for me, but sometimes I think the best way to relieve the worry and pressure is to have a big cry. You always feel much better afterwards. I am already completely convinced I am pg with DS3, but I believe I still gave it a good try and the perfect baby for my family is in there. You should look up "The Great Sperm Race". You can watch it online. It is a documentary that I watched a few months ago. It really made me think that it is a friggin miracle that any of the sperm survive and make it to the egg. The one that ends up getting there has had to overcome a miriad of obstacles, so it is what was meant to be. I am sure a little piece of me would still always look at little girls and think it would have been nice to have one of my own, but it would not make the little boy any less of a miracle.

[PeonyPrincess]

Hey, ladies! So sorry I have been MIA lately. It has been hard for me to be on the computer too much, I was sick and we are having some issues at home with one of my kids too. HOpe everyone is doing well! I hope to be able to be on here more now and KIT! Amari

Hey Amari. We've missed you. Hope everything is ok with your DS. Has DH had his surgery?

[prayforprincess]

Sorry to hear that Lassie.

So...I think its HAPPENING again. Early o for me AGAIN this month!! This morning nothing -- I was going to take an opk around 4pm, but then I though "naa, I won't be o-ing for a few more days". Then I hopped in the shower and decided to check myself. All the sudden watery stretchy cm. OMG, not again! Its only cd10. I got outta the shower and checked again, a lot of watery stretchy cm. So now I am holding my pee and peeing on 4 different opk's at 9pm tonight.
If those are positive or almost positive then tonight will be the night!
I have not used rephresh in 2 1/2 days tho -- due to use it tomorrow morning. I am thinking to use just a fingertip now. A tiny bit up there. Or I could use a 1/2 app. tonight and then make our 1st attempt at 6am, then 8am then again at 1pm. Its Sunday so dh will be home all day.

What do you girls think? Dtd Tonight or wait til the am??

Of course I am going to my mil house tomorrow and have to eat a bite of corned beef. Of course I would be eating corned beef the night before I am o-ing. Whatever -- a little bit once won't hurt 13 weeks of being on this diet.

[mydream]

Prayforprincess- if the OPK is positive tonight. I would use a fingertip of Rephresh an hour before and dtd tonight !

[prayforprincess]

Thanks.
I was thinking about it and I think, as of now, that tomorrow night will be the night. My watery stretchy cm started today. That means that tomorrow night will probably be the perfect night. I doubt my opk's will be positive tonight, now that I think about it. Getting there maybe. Tomorrow afternoon they will probably be stronger and by tomorrow night or Monday morning they will be positive. I am due to take an app. of Rephresh in the am. I will do that then dtd tomorrow night.
Should I take the whole app or just 1/2 knowing I will probably be dtd tomorrow night.
I just checked my ph and it is low...like 4-5. Maybe just take 1/2 rephresh in the am and begin our attempts tomorrow night (provided the opk's don't turn positive before that).
Yes??

[HopeandDreamG]

Pray~ def ONLY us 1/2, I am positive on that. Your diet is soooo strong and controlling the ph anyway. I don't really think it does anything except block conception! I know you know this when you go to use 1/2 the whole thing comes out. Be careful! Let us know what the OPK says. I think you are probably right in waiting, get a little closer to O to give the sperm a chance to get there.

Sweetsister~ that sleep walking is wild. I start clomid again tomorrow night will keep you posted!

Peony~ still so happy for you!!

Littlemiss~ hope you feel better soon, I am just getting over a sinus infection. ONly good thing I couldn't bother to eat, couldn't taste anything anyway!

Kraisy~ glad you got another attempt in just in case. Hope the 2 WW goes fast.

Lassie~ sorry your thinking your out.. hope Af doesn't show.

Amari~ I thought you were on for March?? whats the plan, know you've been MIA a bit. Hope to see you more

Hi everyone else...

[HopeandDreamG]

OH and Princess of Pink PLEASE dont leave us. WE NEED YOU:cheerteam:

[prayforprincess]

I agree Hope&Dream thanks. I will only use half in the morning and I will try to get it up in there with my finger. I know trying to use the application, no matter what all of it comes out. So I'll squirt it out on my finger and only use 1/2 in the am and then we will make our attempts hopefully tomorrow night.
You think I should do:
Nothing w/ 1st attempt, little sylk w/ 2nd attempt & replens 1 hour later, nothing w/ 3rd attempt
or
Nothing w/ 1st attempt, little sylk w/ 2nd and 3rd attempt.

??

[HopeandDreamG]

I like option 2, nothing with first attempt (bc you'll have the rephresh in there anyway) and a bit of sylk with attempt 2 and 3. I don't think replens an hour later does anything. The sperm are gone in 5 min, and the rephresh has you covered anyway. I think you are better off, totally relaxing after DTD.

[Lassie1982]

I like option 2, nothing with first attempt (bc you'll have the rephresh in there anyway) and a bit of sylk with attempt 2 and 3. I don't think replens an hour later does anything. The sperm are gone in 5 min, and the rephresh has you covered anyway. I think you are better off, totally relaxing after DTD.

I send this, another vote for option 2.

[Lassie1982]

PFP - i was going to suggest DTD tonight AND tomorrow night? Or are you going for one attempt only (sorry if you have mentioned it already, i may have missed it)

[sweetsister]

Sweetsister, the only times I have ever sleep-walked have been while I was pg. So I wouldn't mind betting it is a hormone thing. DH is a really light sleeper, so he would find me wandering around the house and send me back to bed!

You know i dont sleepwalk but if you wake me from a deep sleep when im pregnant i do some wierd things ,dh said i would wake up saying wheres my baby ?When im full on big belly pregnant!And it takes me awhile to figure it out,come to think of it i sometimes now if ive fallen asleep on the couch wake up and ask dh to hurry and close the baby gate so they dont fall down the stairs ,but they are asleep in bed !So your probably right its hormonal:suprise:

[sweetsister]

I agree Hope&Dream thanks. I will only use half in the morning and I will try to get it up in there with my finger. I know trying to use the application, no matter what all of it comes out. So I'll squirt it out on my finger and only use 1/2 in the am and then we will make our attempts hopefully tomorrow night.
You think I should do:
Nothing w/ 1st attempt, little sylk w/ 2nd attempt & replens 1 hour later, nothing w/ 3rd attempt
or
Nothing w/ 1st attempt, little sylk w/ 2nd and 3rd attempt.

??
I would also suggest keeping it light on the jellies ,if you are doing the diet so well it does make it hard to conceive,i think a little goes a long way:)
And i also have major ewcm early today but couldnt test cause i ran out of OPK !!So will have to be in the dark until monday AGGGH nothing ever goes as planned does it!
Good luck with your attempts:luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck:
Looks like ill be babydancin tonight too:highfive:

[amari]

Hi, girls. Pray, I would do lite on rephresh too. Esp if your ph is Already low.

My af (if you can call it that, so super lite) came early on the provera so I will be starting Clomid on the 13th. I'm trying to back off in the aspartame and I was trying to maintain my weight but in doing so I gained a pound, oops! It's a fine line! Guess I should at least drop that 1 lb before I o?

[PeonyPrincess]

Seriously Amari, you are so teeny tiny already. I would not be the least bit concerned about that 1lb. And everywhere I look lately I see fat women with baby girls-ugh. I have 5 friends who are currently pg and 2 who recently had babies. All of them are having or have had boys. It is like there is something in the water here!! I don't like my chances of bucking the trend.

GL to everyone having attempts and planning.

[littlemissnaughty7]

my weight is 105 lbs now and i was 107 when i failed on clomid at 50mg, i was around 115 when i conceived both my sons on 50mg clomid, amari what is your weight at now and what cals/pro/fat/sodium do you stick too ?? did clomid make you ovulate last time if so what was the dose ??

[littlemissnaughty7]

PFP i think you should do the 2nd option too hun,

[prayforprincess]

PFP - i was going to suggest DTD tonight AND tomorrow night? Or are you going for one attempt only (sorry if you have mentioned it already, i may have missed it)

Dh is abstaining (fr was too stressful), and we originally were going to try one attempt. But I really wanna get pg, so we are going to do multiple attempts now; but because of the abstaining we can't space them out like one could if you do fr.
So if we make multiple attempts it has to be in a short period of time to make sure the sperm count stays low.

[prayforprincess]

Took and opk last night and this morning -- both clearly negative.
So no baby dancing yet. I still have watery cm, so it'll be coming in a few days...just not today. My guess is that our attempt will be Tues night -- if I had to guess. We'll see how these opk's turn out. In the past I feel like when I get a fertile sign my body gears up to o quickly -- that is why I got scared.

Thank you for your input. I just did a full app. rephresh this morning since I know our attempts won't be tonight. I am going to use no jellies during our 3 attempts, just maybe a tad, tiny bit of sylk on attempt #2 & 3. No jump and dump. I really really wanna get pregnant and I think all j&d will do is decrease my chances of getting pg, his sperm count will already be so low.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ Is your dh using licorice root? I'm thinking about maybe giving dh a little less. Worried its effecting his sperm quality too much.

Sweetsister~ Good luck with your baby dancing!!

Peony~ the way I see it odds ARE in your favor for a baby girl if everyone else is having boys!!

[prayforprincess]

He is taking LR 2x a day -- not 3.
Why would you be concerned it is ruining is quality?
My dh normally had very good quality from my experience. Even in IVF I would have him fr for 4-5 days before giving his sample (which they say to have him release 2-3 days before and then abstain) -- and we have always had 100% fertilization. So I think if anything, his sperm could use a little hurt - cause his diet & drinking does not seem to affect his sperm at all. Its as if they are not even phased by it. I didn't want to totally destroy them so that is why I am only having him take the LR 2x not the recommended 3x a day.

[amari]

Peony-Yes, odds are def in your favor, they weren't swaying like you are!

littemiss-I feel like my last cycle on clomid was so messed up. I don't know when I o'd, and they say I hyperstimmed so I was off this last cycle and did not O on my own. I weigh between 93-95 now. I eat between 1300-1600 a day, about 40g protein I guess and about 20-30 g fat a day. I'm just guessing. Are you on fitnesspal? I am boyboygirl if you want to be friends. I o'd the first cycle on cd 21.

sweetsister-No! Nothing ever does go as planned. I am trying not to make my ttc plan too tight b/c it never goes the way you plan anyways, right? How many attempts are you thinking of?

[HopeandDreamG]

In my thread on reviewing my sway plan Atomic suggested maybe I stop the licorice root, that perhaps its effecting my Dh sperm too much quality and quantitiy. She says it continues to work after stopping it. I just listed options for her to look at. One was reducing to 2 times a day. take a look if you have a minute.

I conceived 3 times REALLY easy, just really wanting March to work, but want a girl conception more, iykwim.

[HopeandDreamG]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/review-my-swaying-plan/8978-march-attempt-need-make-changes.html#post158590

[prayforprincess]

I did read.
You should maybe try dropping dh to LR only 2x a day. That is what I am doing.
And yesterday, dh was lazy and I found out that he only took it 1x. So most days he is taking it 2x day, but a few days only 1x. Last month he took it from af-o only 1x day; and I did conceive.
I didn't feel that would be enough to affect him at all - especially since he misses doses.
I am happy with the 2x day for now, especially since we are not doing j&d or any jellies other than rephresh every 3 days.
3x a day might be overkill for older men -- good for guys in their 20's..not so good for men in their late 30's and 40's.

[KraizyDaizy]

5dpo and had a tiny bit of blood when I blew my nose this am (TMI), so I might be getting the sinus infection a lot of the ladies on here have been reporting or could the blood be a preg sign?

[sweetsister]

I have proper nosebleeds when im pregnant,they say its from the extra blood in our bodies while pregnant,i would think you would be a little further along for it to affect you but maybe this is just a warning that you could be you never know?

[amari]

Hope it's an early pg sign!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey guys, well my sinus infection still has my temps up so still im waiting agggghhhhhhhhh,

amari what dose were you on last time on clomid hun ? and how do i add you as a friend ?

[HopeandDreamG]

On myfitnesspal if we are friends, we can check out what we are eating?

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss~ I just looked you click on the friends tab and invite a friend.

[littlemissnaughty7]

ahhhhhh thanks hun, i dont know about whether we can see each others food, probably i would of thought,

so amari ive added you as a friend now hun, anyone else ?

[HopeandDreamG]

I am shrinkdr add me too

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok hun done,

[HopeandDreamG]

accepted it! now to figure out how it works!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

lol me too !

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari~ I friend requested you too! If anyone else is interested let me know

[HopeandDreamG]

Ok I think I got it. Go to friends, when you see me, click on my name then click on view diary. I think I did the settings so you can view it. Let me know if it works

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes i can see it now how do i do it ?

[HopeandDreamG]

I can already see yours, but this is how you can change settings: my home, settings, diary settings. AND other stuff: My home, settings, profile privacy settings.

[amari]

I was first on 100 then on 150, so I will be back down to 100 this time. Yes, if we are friends we can look at each other by looking at their food diary. You have to look up member and then send a friend request like on FB. I am so confused about the balance between weight loss/maintaining and then wanting to actually O on clomid. It is hard to know what and how much to eat. I always wonder am I eating too much healthy food or not enough, or too much? Or too much sweets etc. Anyways, that's how you do it...

[amari]

Oh! I just saw the requests!

[KraizyDaizy]

Had my cd21 progesterone blood work this am and am praying it's way over last time!!! I hope to hear back from the nurse this afternoon or tomorrow.

[littlemissnaughty7]

ooh good luck KD hun, well im on antibiotics now for my sinusitis, not sure if thats any good for a girl sway ?

[prayforprincess]

Good luck kd with your blood work! Can't wait to hear.

Hi All others-
So I woke up this am with a lot of ewcm. I will be on my opk's like a hawk today.
I think our attempt will either be tonight or tomorrow night. Wahoo.

Ofcourse I was at my MIL last night to celebrate my son's 3rd bday and ate dinner. I mean I ATE. I has some corned beef -- I know really bad. Some boiled veggies, some homeade mac and cheese (it was soo good I could have eaten much more), irish soda bread w/ butter and a little piece of bday cake with icecream. I am terrible. That was such a cheat meal.
I keep telling myself one meal will not do anything -- its the overall trend. I have been really good since my af and that was my one cheat. I am going to be soooo good today -- only like 700 calories and tomorrow only 900. I gotta let my body know last night was a one time only thing.

Funny tho -- my mom said to me this morning on the phone "Starving people in some countries go weeks without eating much and then kill a lion and eat the whole thing. They all have more girls b/c most of the time they are starving. So eating one meal won't ruin anything"
Thanks mom, So what you are confirming is that I did eat a lot but telling me not to feel bad about it.

[prayforprincess]

ooh good luck KD hun, well im on antibiotics now for my sinusitis, not sure if thats any good for a girl sway ?

Yikes -- I am almost positive that anitbiotics sway boy. Not sure why, that is just what I have read in the past.

[auroara78]

PFP, I agree with your mom and what AS always says...one meal isn't going to hurt anyone's sway, because it really is the overall trend. Luckily my mom is a terrible cook and we were at her house on the day I o'ed, Christmas Day, so I picked at her dry ham and barely ate any meat and usaully i love potatoes but she sauteed them with these huge onions (and I like my onions very tiny) and I couldn't really eat anything but some bread because all her food was so dry and yucky.

PFP, I so think you will get preg this month for sure!

KD, I really hope the little bleeding is a good sign! I am really hopeful for you this month! Hope your prog. levels come back good.

Hope & Dreams, glad you are trying this month too.

Little miss, I'm not sure why, but according to IG, antiobotics sway boy. I don't know how much, or why they sway boy, maybe AS will chime in to tell us why or tell us don't worry about it.

I am good, my MS is mostly over, I still get a bit nauseated when I don't eat, and I'm really, really tired today because I stayed up way too late, chatting it up with DH. It was nice for us to have time together with kids asleep, but now I can barely keep my eyes open! Too much of a good thing!

[sweetsister]

:wave: Ladies:)
I wouldnt worry about one meal cheat your mom is probably right PP:)
I did Thalassotherapy this morning has anyone tried it before?It was so relaxing and im thinking full of ions and girl energy hopefully?Then i get home to my 2 boys wrestling farting and littleone biting me 'hes teething' and he loves to rip my hair out just for fun ,so officially not relaxed anymore!
Anyways im having tons of ewcm but waiting for my opk tests in the mail and cant test yet!?!?No cramping yet though so hopefully tomorrow:)
I am sooo hungry today ,i took a peek at the ttc boy forum and wish i wouldnt have im so jealous what they are eating:p
my eye is twitching as im writing this eating an old stale ricecake piece of cardboard:o
Cant wait to eat again!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

OMG do they really what am i gona do AS where are you ??????????

[sweetsister]

OMG do they really what am i gona do AS where are you ??????????

Hon post her a question in the dream members section she will answer quicker.

[Mochagirl]

PFP, I agree with your mom and what AS always says...one meal isn't going to hurt anyone's sway, because it really is the overall trend. Luckily my mom is a terrible cook and we were at her house on the day I o'ed, Christmas Day, so I picked at her dry ham and barely ate any meat and usaully i love potatoes but she sauteed them with these huge onions (and I like my onions very tiny) and I couldn't really eat anything but some bread because all her food was so dry and yucky.

:rofl: That sounds exactly like my situation at Christmas. I'd been so stressed about spending O-week staying with the in-laws and not being able to control what I ate at all, but I forgot what a terrible cook MIL is, so it was really no sacrifice at all to pick at the meat and fill up on veggie side dishes. It would have been waaaay worse if I'd been at my Mom's house for Christmas since I love her cooking!

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok ive just pm'd her i hope she can tell me not to worry or there going in the bin lol,

[sweetsister]

Have you just started them?Because antibiotics sway boy for sure ive read that too!Just not sure how much if you are on the girl diet?

[littlemissnaughty7]

i started them yesterday, ive taken 4 now !!!!, do they stay in your system for long ??

[Mochagirl]

LMN - I had something similar happen to me right as I was about to make an attempt. For me, it was a steroid inhaler prescribed for a cough that wouldn't go away. I took it for 3 days then heard back from atomic, who said it for sure sways boy. I stopped immediately, and O was still several days away...I was assured it should be out of my system by then (I didn't end up getting pregnant that cycle anyway). I'm pretty sure antibiotics do sway boy, and I'm not sure how long they stay in your system - hopefully you'll hear back from atomic soon. If you don't absolutely need them (forgive me, I forget why you're taking them) then I'd say stop taking them now. Make sure your health comes first, though - if this is something you need to take, you should continue to take them... Good luck!

[littlemissnaughty7]

i have sinusitis, my nose is blocked and i cant breath through it, i have no taste buds and i have no sense of smell, and have bad headaches, im about 4 weeks away from my attempt anyway as im waiting to see if i did indeed ovulate this month as my temps have been up but ive been ill,

[Mochagirl]

I did a search and found these threads on I-G. Tamara seems to think antibiotics only sway by raising your PH, but I'd wait to hear what atomic says before making any decisions. Those IG girls are very PH obsessed....

Tamara, How long do antibiotics stay in your system for? - In-Gender.com (http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/230291/2158219.aspx)

Help! How long until antibiotics are out of my system? - In-Gender.com (http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/74436.aspx)

antibiotics...should i forget about swaying this cycle? - In-Gender.com (http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/239698/2230640.aspx)

Oh! I just found this genderdreaming thread:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/6971-antibiotics-swaying-girl.html

Atomic seems to say she doesn't think they sway that strongly after all. Check it out.

[Mochagirl]

I'd say you should take them for sure, LMN - it sounds like you're feeling miserable!

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh mocha thanks hun you didnt need to find that info for me but thanks so much im glad you did as thats really reassuring info, so il just keep my ph low and dry my cm up if i need too, your a star huni x:kissy:

[prayforprincess]

PFP, I agree with your mom and what AS always says...one meal isn't going to hurt anyone's sway, because it really is the overall trend. Luckily my mom is a terrible cook and we were at her house on the day I o'ed, Christmas Day, so I picked at her dry ham and barely ate any meat and usaully i love potatoes but she sauteed them with these huge onions (and I like my onions very tiny) and I couldn't really eat anything but some bread because all her food was so dry and yucky.

PFP, I so think you will get preg this month for sure!


Thanks auroara -- I hope so. I kinda have a good feeling I will -- I just hope I wil get pg with a girl!

Mydream put things into perspective for me too -- she said if one meal or day could make such a difference then we could all just be on the LE diet for one day and conceive our girls. But no, we have to be on it for 6+ weeks to even begin to sway, so it truly is the overall trend and not one day.

[prayforprincess]

mocha, that was so kind to find all that info.

littlemiss, if its thought to sway boy just b/c it raises your ph then take them. you are on the diet and taking clomid, clomid alone takes care of your ph and will trump the antibiotic for sure. plus the diet etc.. you are lowering your ph a lot anyway. we don't even know for sure that a low ph sways at all. plus you are a ways away from your attempt, no?

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes PFP im miles away from our attempt yet il be missing march by the looks of it :sad:

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss~ I also remember Atomic not feeling like antibotics sway. She often has said if you have a choice between antibotics or steroids to pick the antibiotics. You have the threads now anyway!! I also think you are far away enough from your attempt you said 4 weeks, they won't be in your system anymore. Also stopping antibotics mid way makes infections fierce!

PFP and sweetsister~ Good luck with your attempts coming.

Auroara~ Glad your m/s is almost gone!

Kraisy~ can't wait to see your blood results

I am CD4, second dose of clomid later. Really loving the longer day light and thinking this is PERFECT baby girl making weather!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

LMN7, my mum had 3 boys and I was an unexpected surprise. She was on the pill, but got sick and was taking antibiotics, and forgot that they would make the pill less reliable, and hey presto I happened! So I would definitely take them and get yourself feeling better. Sinusitis is just horrible.

[amari]

Sorry you are feeling bad, if your attempt is 4 wks away that seems far enough to continue with the meds, no?

Praying- I gave cheats like that, you are soo strict I wouldn't think twice!

Hope- I'm cd4 too! I'm suppose to start Clomid tomorrow. Weird thing is I have egg white cm and cramping?? I might take an opk in a little bit just for the hell of it, I'm barely off my period so it must be just that, right ?

[_Lala_]

Hi girls,
PFP - dont worry at all about a lil cheat like that, you have been so good with your diet I doubt one meal would make a difference at all!
Lilmiss - I would def keep taking your antibiotics. You're 4 weeks away, which is a long time really, and I think it's best you feel 100% before your attempt. And by what the research says, it might not even sway boy so no point stressing, particularly since you are doing so many other things to sway.
As for me, I am CD13 and seem to have a lot of CM, although I have found rephresh contributes to that. Still neg opks but I'm sure it will happen soon, usually I O about CD16 but my cycles have been a bit all over the place lately so I wouldn't be surprised if I O earlier. DP is abstaining so I was planning on only doing 1 attempt approx 24-30 hrs after a pos opk, but I really want to get pregnant this cycle (I want a 2012 baby) n I saw PFP I think, was going to abstain n then do another attempt almost immediately after the first attempt. Do you guys think that is a good plan? Surely the sperm wouldn't have had much time to replenish so sperm count would still be low, or is it too risky to have that much sperm up there? I want to get pregnant this cycle but I don't want to do anything to jeopardise my sway for a girl. What do you ladies think?

[Lassie1982]

So im officially here :)
CD1! Second month TTC here i come :) Im thinking of changing some thing - i started a new thread - let me know your thoughts i need all the help / suggestion i can get!


PFP - dont worry, as all the other said, one meal isnt going to ruin your sway, and i think we *need* to have a small cheat every now and again to reward ourselves (well, thats what i tell myself anyway) Really hope this is your month for you - positive thinking HAS to count for something! FX hun :)

LMN7 - i havnt had a chance to read thoroughly what the official advise is, but i would wholeheartedly recommend you take your antibiotics, your body needs to be relatively healthy to conceive, so you are best to take them, its not worth risking your overall health, prolonged sickness, or your condition worsening. I really hope you feel better soon!!

lala - im too new to have any advice for you on your questions but just wanted to say GOOD LUCK!!! your getting close to your attempt :)


Amari, HopenDream and everyone else - FX!!! Lets make some Christmas babies :)

[nks798]

good morning, ladies. so, had a cheat ..at Church on Sunday. I didn't go over by too much but I went over especially on sodium and our attempt will be this weekend. really.. just wanting to get pregnant. getting bored with the diet.. is anyone else on the same boat? it's not a high price to pay or anything.. it's just so bland and I don't have a lot of time to try and explore much more. really just want to get pregnant now and hope for the best :) a healthy baby is what we want and a girl would be a bonus!

[nks798]

Lets make some Christmas babies :)

yes, Christmas babies.. our Christmas presents :)

[Lassie1982]

Nks I'm in the 'bored' boat aswell LOL. I used to salt even salty foods!
That said, it probably a lot healthier to be salt free :)
I am being extra restrictive on the diet though, I just want to give it the best shot.
As bland and boring as it can be, I'm like you and think it is well worth it in the end if we get our DG, and if not, at least we can say we tried.
I'm so thankful to have found this site, I have learnt so much already.

[Lassie1982]

Has anyone got children born in the same month? If yes, how do they take it, any jealousy?
Our DS is a December baby(well he's not a baby anymore, turning 8 this year!)and if I'm lucky enough to conceive this cycle then there is a good chance that this one will be aswell.

[KraizyDaizy]

LMN7,
I have a friend who got pregnant while on the pill after being on antibiotics and she had a girl, so I think they sway girl. This is my unscientific opinion LOL!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

yes, Christmas babies.. our Christmas presents :)

I am hoping for a Thanksgiving baby, my due date might be 11/27, but a Christmas baby would be nice as well!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

Has anyone got children born in the same month? If yes, how do they take it, any jealousy?
Our DS is a December baby(well he's not a baby anymore, turning 8 this year!)and if I'm lucky enough to conceive this cycle then there is a good chance that this one will be aswell.

None of my boys are the same month. I have July, August, September, and October babies and so praying for a November girl. We have so much birthday cake these months! It is actually very exhausting and I am so glad to make it through all the expense of parties for each one of them. I really don't like to sharing birthdays so we are really strapped for money those months but they all have their special day just for them.

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks guys for all your well wishes......... but i dont think it matters anymore as i got a BFP !!! this morning on FRER !!!!!! i am gob smacked to say the least and im now very scared we just conceived our 3rd boy as we did nothing to sway and actually swayed boy !! il tell you why....

i thought i ovulated earlier in the month and i thought i was waiting for AF and as it was late i was drinking parsley tea !!! (i hope this hasnt hurt our unborn baby) to bring on AF not only is that full of vitamins its also very alkalining! we had sex once after 8 days of abstinance we didnt do pull out, i think i got up after a few mins and went to the toilet and wiped away, i think we dtd right on O, and i had an orgasm !!!! i had been drinking wine too, im not sure on my O day il try and get my ff chart for you to see does anyone know how i do that ??

[sweetsister]

None of my boys are the same month. I have July, August, September, and October babies and so praying for a November girl. We have so much birthday cake these months! It is actually very exhausting and I am so glad to make it through all the expense of parties for each one of them. I really don't like to sharing birthdays so we are really strapped for money those months but they all have their special day just for them.

Omg! if you lived where i do you would have to have a nameday as well as a birthday i was just thinking :3kids: will have to do for me as of now i i have 2 children and have to celebrate 4 times a year!!And it gets $$$$ it is a relief when the bdays are done for the year:)

[nks798]

ahh!! congrats, littlemissnaughty7! all you can do now is wait but I really hope it's your girl :)

[sweetsister]

thanks guys for all your well wishes......... but i dont think it matters anymore as i got a BFP !!! this morning on FRER !!!!!! i am gob smacked to say the least and im now very scared we just conceived our 3rd boy as we did nothing to sway and actually swayed boy !! il tell you why....

i thought i ovulated earlier in the month and i thought i was waiting for AF and as it was late i was drinking parsley tea !!! (i hope this hasnt hurt our unborn baby) to bring on AF not only is that full of vitamins its also very alkalining! we had sex once after 8 days of abstinance we didnt do pull out, i think i got up after a few mins and went to the toilet and wiped away, i think we dtd right on O, and i had an orgasm !!!! i had been drinking wine too, im not sure on my O day il try and get my ff chart for you to see does anyone know how i do that ??

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH :holysheep:I just saw this what!!!Congratulations!!!:running:
Listen the diet is the most IMPORTANT if your body has been used to being on it with that i think you have a great chance of having a girl it takes a while for your system to go back to boy territory,dont stress about the small stuff i think you did a pretty good job!:cheerteam:

[auroara78]

LittleMiss, big big CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :celebrate:

Little miss, don't worry about any of that....there was this IG swayer who swayed girl and purpposely had a ton of orgasms to help the sperm get up there (she was doing way frequent BD as she thought the diet was going to sway enough and she really wanted to get pg) and she got a girl. I know tons of women in RL who I have a better good feeling have big O's and they have girls! Really, I wouldn't let that one thing bother you about it has to be a boy! I stilll truly believe swaying helps the odds improve beyond 50-50 but nothing is 100 % or even close! FX it's your pink beanie!

And for all the ladies trying to concieve in March, my oldest sister was concieved in March, and born on Dec. 22nd! The only thing she did not like about her birthday being so close to Christmas was the fact that my mom wrapped her bday presents in christmas wrap...so obviously, don't do that! LOL ...I think babies make the best Christmas present :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks guys but i wasnt using any ion stuff and we dtd about a week after the new moon, and i wasnt using rephresh or coke or crystal light !!!!!!!!! ive proper chuffed it all up,

[KraizyDaizy]

CONGRATES Littlemissnaughty7!!!!! So happy for you!!! Many blessings on your pink bundle!!!

[auroara78]

Little miss, my one sister was concieved in full moon :) and i concieved my 1st son in new moon, so there! :) Don't worry about gender, just enjoy the moment :)

[prayforprincess]

Littlemiss-- I am so happy for you! That is great! Congrats!

At least its all over and you can eat again. I am so jealous. I don't know how much longer I can do this for. I am having a really down day and wanting to give it all up. Of course then my mother tells me this morning "if you go back to your normal ways then you'll be guaranteed a boy". Thank mom.
I am just feeling so defeated and I haven't even o'ed this month yet. I just feel like dtd all the time just so I get pg. I don't know. Cd13 and no even close to +opk yet. Normally I don't o til cd16 or 17 so this is not unusual for me or anything -- I am jsut getting impatient and frustrated. I hate all this ttc -- I just want my bfp already

Littlemiss- do you know when you dtd in relation to your ovulation day. It was just once on o...or before?

[littlemissnaughty7]

im not sure when i ovulated hun i either dtd on O day or 3 days before O day, how do i add my chart from FF ??

[Wishing4Princess]

lilmiss, Congrats!!!

[prayforprincess]

I think if you go to your chart page and then highlight the web address on top, click copy then come over here and paste it.

[littlemissnaughty7]

<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1fd7c2">My Ovulation Chart</a>

[KraizyDaizy]

Littlemiss were you on Clomid at all?

[KraizyDaizy]

I was talking to my DH on my way to work telling him that I hoped to get my progesterone blood work back today and he said, "I hate this time" meaning he hates the TWW as well. I think it's going to be hard on him too if we get a BFN. It was sad. He tried so hard this time. I have already left a message for the nurse to get my results and I am hoping she calls me soon cause I am on pins and needles!!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes i was on clomid but it was a very late O day,

[KraizyDaizy]

yes i was on clomid but it was a very late O day,

Well that alone should sway girl from what I hear. I am on it too, so we will see. Congrats on your news! I am sure your DH is over the moon excited?

[littlemissnaughty7]

he is yes im just gobsmacked i cant believe it,

[littlemissnaughty7]

i dont know if im happy or not, nothing went to plan im so peeeeed off it happened like this as i wanted to give it my best shot !!

[rainbowflower]

thanks guys for all your well wishes......... but i dont think it matters anymore as i got a BFP !!! this morning on FRER !!!!!! i am gob smacked to say the least and im now very scared we just conceived our 3rd boy as we did nothing to sway and actually swayed boy !! il tell you why....

i thought i ovulated earlier in the month and i thought i was waiting for AF and as it was late i was drinking parsley tea !!! (i hope this hasnt hurt our unborn baby) to bring on AF not only is that full of vitamins its also very alkalining! we had sex once after 8 days of abstinance we didnt do pull out, i think i got up after a few mins and went to the toilet and wiped away, i think we dtd right on O, and i had an orgasm !!!! i had been drinking wine too, im not sure on my O day il try and get my ff chart for you to see does anyone know how i do that ??

OMG congratulations!! :D :D
still sounds like a good sway even with the big O. Wine lowers pH, OV day BDing won't sway either way - sounds very promising to me!

[coocoobananas]

Congratulations Littlemiss! Just think you definately would have the low testosterone on your side and a bunch of other factors! Plus I was reading successful sways last night and most of the. Accidentally had the big o and I kinda want to!;) I mean not being able to dtd with dh has been torture! I wouldn't normally care but bring told not to because of abstinence?!? Wow, I guess I don't like being told what to do lol!!
I'm in with all the ladies waiting for th opk this week! I feel like I am about to give it all up. I have slipped on the pills, just getting sloppy and right when it's getting to the most important time?!? I am hoping this is because my testosterone is low and I am thinking eh, whatever!! Remember this is a good time to chill out and relax!!
Btw I would have been against december baby but seeing I am being selective on sex I shouldn't be greedy;)
My sister and I are bot December babies! 21 and 27..yes no christmas wrapping paper and joint gifts with Christmas!! It's a pretty special time though!

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss~ CONGRATS WOMAN!!!! thats awesome, and honestly sooooo often I hear of women who got a surprise BFP and ends up its a girl, because they were relaxed. Pretty much what happened to me. Timing does not sway, you were on clomid, and doing the DIET-most important. NO WORRIES. Great SWAY!!! :cheer:

Amari~ How awesome we are the exact CD!!! YAY YAY YAY!!

Lala~ I think you may be confusing CM with the rephresh! I don;t think its increased CM production from rephresh. If you test from the cervix the rephresh is up in there and mixes with the CM.

Lassie~ I am thinking if I conceive I can schedule for 12/12/12, I will have a C-section so it can be planned....

NKS~ I wouldn't worry about soduim, honestly do not think it sways. I think what sways is losing weight which makes your body acedic and makes your body think you can only support a female that requires less calories from conception throughout life.......

PFP~ don't be down, we are in the BEST time of year for getting our much desired baby girls, I can just feel it. It makes soooooooo much sense. Our internal clocks def sense the days are getting longer, spring is just about here, conception now means baby born in dead of winter, and who can survive in the winter? :XX:

LETS GO MARCH :cheerteam:

[Mochagirl]

Congrats, LMN - what a shocker!!! It seems to me that 'oops' babies almost always end up being girls - I hope that happens for you :luck:!

[amari]

Little miss! Congrats!!! So happy for you!!!!!:cheerteam: Go get something yummy to eat and tell us all about it!!

Hope-Yay! Cycle buddy! I just took my first clomid today!! :cheer:

[prayforprincess]

Hope&Dream you are great! You always say something that makes me smile.

Well...I had tons of wet, slippery, clear & very stretchy cm at noon today when I got outta the shower. So much. Not sure how much zyrtec works on me, can't imagine if I wasn't taking it.
So...tonight is the night! We are making our attempts tonight! I know myself, I usually get all this ewcm the day of or day before my +opk. I am taking an opk at 4pm and am sure it will read something. Even if it is not totally positive we are still gonna dtd tonight -- 3 attempts in 4-5 hours.
Then tomorrow, maybe. Undecided still. We will see how my temps and the opk's go. If they are + today then no attempts tomorrow, if they are positive tomorrow then maybe we'll do one more tomorrow night. I will have dh release when he gets home from work and then we will dtd an hour later with his 2nd batch.
That's the plan! Hope and pray for a pink pink pregnancy!! Please please please let this be my lucky month!!
All our lucky month's!!

[suregena]

Congrats little miss!!! :D

[prayforprincess]

shoot...I just thought of it.
Do you think I should use something before our attempt tonight? Maybe a tiny tiny bit of rephresh a few hours before?
I only say that because I am sue for the full application in the morning, meaning at our attempt tonight it will have been 2 1/2 days since I last used an application.
Fingertip rephresh? Maybe fingertip replens now??
Ahh, need opinions.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all thanks so much for your congrats, im hoping this is my girl with all my heart but im so unlucky lol, ive been cramping on my left today so had a bath to calm it down which it has, now im either 8dpo or 11dpo i had a dip in temp today surely i must be 8dpo right as 11 seems very late to me what are your thoughts ??

[littlemissnaughty7]

PFP i would only use a half app the morning of or the night before attempt thats what AS told me to do hun,

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi suregena hun how are u ?

[HopeandDreamG]

Just a little bit prayforprincess. Really a Little little bit of rephresh. Don't want to see a bfn. And I think it's your internal ph that sways if it even does. Sperm is gone in 5 minutes. And rephresh is not past the cervix. You've decreased sperm count enough with the abstain and then the releases before extra attempts. It's BFP time.

[littlemissnaughty7]

KD hun did you get your results ?

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari- when do u O? I should be on cd15.

[littlemissnaughty7]

coocoo why would you not because of abstinance ?

[prayforprincess]

Thanks littlemiss but I cannot use half -- our attempt is tonight...in only 4 1/2 hours!

You are right Hope&dream, its bfp time!! You are sooo motivating! We don't know if ph even sways, and no matter what my ph is in my vg if its not low up there then nothing I use will help me. I should just go for it and use nothing, no? Its not like I haven't been using the rephresh, I used it on Sunday morning. And with attempt #2 & 3 tonight I will use a drop of sylk.
Many people conceive girls without rephresh or replens or anything -- I need to tell myself that.

[HopeandDreamG]

Yes. And I am one of them. Was losing weight and was relaxed. Didn't know what rephresh was! I only said tiny bit bc I didn't think you'd want to do none! Maybe don't use any and just use a tiny bit of sylk on dh it will get in your nooks and crannies.

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh and good luck:HH::don't be tense or stressed ;)

[prayforprincess]

Well I was thinking -- if we messed up our fr or he did not abstain long enough then I would touch up on the rephresh. But I did use a whole app. sunday morning and will use another tomorrow morning after our attempts when it is due. So I am using it every 3 days. Just not doing touch ups. Sylk with attempts.
Rephresh lowers sperm count, not gives you a girl. And I already have his sperm count lowered by 11 days abstaining and then dtd again 2 hours later. I don't need to lower it even more by killing it off with more rephresh than recommended.
Do you agree?
1/4 app of rephresh if we messed up lowering his count, but we didn't -- its perfect. So no need for a touch up of rephresh.
Tell me if u think i am crazy.

[auroara78]

love that *nooks and crannies* hehehehe

[auroara78]

PFP, the rephresh decision is totally your call. I didn't use it for my attempt because it was preventing ME from getting preg. It's a totally personal thing, but for that being said, I think you are doing a lot that is already lowering his sperm count and maybe rephresh is too much? Again, don't want to persuade you out of it, just some food for thought.

[Lassie1982]

Congrats Little miss! WHat an awesome surprise :)

[HopeandDreamG]

PFP- you are right on. Not crazy at all. You lowered already and don't need to anymore. I think you will just reduce chance of bfp.

[_Lala_]

Fantastic news LittleMiss!!!:cheer:You must be absolutely thrilled!! I hope your BFP rubs off on the rest of us!
PFP I wouldn't do a touch up on Rephresh either. As you said you used it 2 1/2 days ago n it should last 72 hours. Also, we have all been on this diet n lifestyle for so long now that I couldn't bare the thought of another whole month of this, n I'm sure you feel the same way! You are doing so many other things I would just try to get pg.
Still not sure whether to do just the one attempt or to follow PFP n try another attempt immediately after? I had a fade in on my FR opk this morning, so will test using my CB digital this arvo...not long to go now:nails:

[prayforprincess]

no rephresh it is then! just a little sylk.
I will use the scheduled application of rephresh tomorrow morning. After our attempts tonight. We may do another attempt tomorrow night, depends. We will use his 2nd release.
Probably nothing will come out of it since I will use the rephresh in the am.

I checked my ph -- its in the 4's. So low enough that I don't need it right now. Opk's at 4pm were not positive, but test line was clearly there now. So they will be positive tomorrow, meaning I will probably o on Thursday. That is why we will probably add that attempt tomorrow night too.
So I'll have a 2 day cut off roughly, give or take a few hours. Most ideal time for conception!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1fd7c2">My Ovulation Chart</a>

How wonderful LMN7!!! Congratulations on your BFP! So that is why your temps had not gone down. Your body had other ideas. Enjoy some real food. And you obviously have a tough little bean in there to stick around despite the parsley tea...it must be a girl!

I could not open the link for your FF chart. I think you to go to sharing, and then get code, and then you want to copy your BB code. I have never been able to get anything to work on mine, it only ever says Invalid File when I try, but I know a lot of the others can do it.

[PeonyPrincess]

P4P, I love your plan! It sounds just right. GL.

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks PP il try and do that

[KraizyDaizy]

KD hun did you get your results ?

No and I am not amused at all! I thought the nurse would call me but she never did! I hope I know something tomorrow and will post as soon as I can. Thanks for thinking of me.

[amari]

Amari- when do u O? I should be on cd15.

I really can't say, I just have to take the opk's and pay attention! I am freakin starving for some reason though so I hope it is obvious and not on day 23 or something! What is your plan this cycle?

[amari]

I have an advice question, I wasn't working out at all since swaying, then I started doing the elliptical for 60 min for about 2 weeks, then I got sick and didn't do it for a week. I am on cd5 and just started clomid today. I can't decide if I should start it up again until my attempt or just leave it out. The factors I am considering are I am trying to neither gain or lose weight right now, the only problem is that I am really really hungry, so it is hard to not eat extra calories. It is so ridiculous to not gain weight as I am small, but I don't want to gain anything right before O. Anyways, any thoughts? Thanks for your input!

[PeonyPrincess]

Amari, I would not exercise, simply because it will increase your metabolism so you will likely lose more weight and definitely be hungrier!

KD, so frustrating that you are still waiting on your results.
I had bloods done yesterday and then my naturopath mentioned a couple of things that would have been good to include in the tests. I phoned the doctor back and asked the receptionist to pass on my request to include iron and vitamin D, so I have a base level. She was really rude and said I would need to make an appointment. I explained the doctor just needed to phone the lab who already had my blood and request that they be added on. This morning I found it it didn't happen. She said the doc said I would need another appt. I said I had already phoned the lab and they said the doc just needed to phone them and they could do it. Friggin annoying. Like I really want to wait another 2 weeks for an appt (I am away next week) and pay more money to have something done that is unnecessary. I'll be going somewhere else if they stuff up my simple request. So hard to find a good doctor in Darwin.

[amari]

thanks, peony,

that sucks about your bloodwork, they always seem to make things so difficult!

[sweetsister]

I have an advice question, I wasn't working out at all since swaying, then I started doing the elliptical for 60 min for about 2 weeks, then I got sick and didn't do it for a week. I am on cd5 and just started clomid today. I can't decide if I should start it up again until my attempt or just leave it out. The factors I am considering are I am trying to neither gain or lose weight right now, the only problem is that I am really really hungry, so it is hard to not eat extra calories. It is so ridiculous to not gain weight as I am small, but I don't want to gain anything right before O. Anyways, any thoughts? Thanks for your input!

Amari i wouldnt exercise either at this point, it will probably make you even more hungry as well!And i have also been sooo hungry lately not sure why it could be the clomid hormones,ive been eating apples ,strawberries,and i have rice cakes but seriously dont recommend them they are horrible and raise blood sugar,but for me they help get me through:)Hopefully someone has better tips ,im also wondering this?

[suregena]

hi suregena hun how are u ?

I'm good! Trying to reorganise myself... working towards getting back on the diet (oh my god, I have gained all the weight back in a few weeks!!! Gah!) and taking vitex in pill form this time and frolic acid. Started a little late as my AF ended days ago but I took my first bbt temp this morning and plugged it into fertility friend. Fingers crossed May or June are my months! Congrats again lady!!!

[suregena]

Hahah! Frolic acid. I mean folic. Comedy iPhone.

[_Lala_]

Good luck for getting back on the swaying wagon Surgena, I bet it was nice to indulge in normal foods for a while! I'm so jealous!
Well I got a smiley face on my CB opk about an hour ago (6.30pm) so now I need to make a decision as to when to dtd. I used Rephresh this morning so that will still be in my system and I don't think I would need to do a top up as I don't want to kill all the sperm. In my head for some reason I think it would be better to dtd in the morning as blood sugar will be low for both of us, not stressful n we will be warm, although I still may make DP have a hot shower. However, if we dtd in the morning (approx 12hrs away) is that too big a cut off if we are only dtd once, or should I wait to dtd tomorrow night, approx 28hrs after pos opk? I REALLY want to get pg this cycle!!
Also, PFP has atomic given you any advice on your plan to dtd 2 times immediately after each other (if DP can do it)? I want to know if this is a good idea or will put me in boy territory with too much sperm. Please let me know your opinions girls, I need all the advice I can get! im getting excited that it's all happening soon! Eek
Love to you all, x

[prayforprincess]

Hi Suregena -- good to see you again. I am sure once you get back on the diet the pounds will just fall off.

Amari -- I would NOT exercise. Especailly speratically. It will raise your metabolism and make you more hungry and more toned -- both not good. Be a couch potato!!

Lala - do not wait 28 hours after +opk. Most women will ovulate in 24 hours. You want the sperm there waiting for the egg -- that is your best chance at getting pregnant. It is in your best intrest to make multiple attempts. As you said, this diet sucks and we wanna get bfp's as soon as possible while still swaying pink.
Dtd multiple times will not put in in boy zone -- that is not what is doing the sway, maternal condition is and if you are strong on your diet then you have nothing to worry about. For women who are not on the diet, then yes fewer sperm may sway in their favor, but that is not what is swaying for us. Plus, you dtd multiple times is not adding that much more sperm b/c the count is still so low. Especially because you used rephresh before your attempt, you really should do multiple to give yourself a chance. If you dtd 1-2 hours after you just dtd then the sperm count is so low you have nothing to worry about. Dtd, wait 1-2 hours then dtd again, wait 1-2 hours and dtd a 3rd time. That will give you a better chance. Plus, you don't know if abstaining really made his sperm count junk so this way in case it has, you still have a shot at getting pg. Dtd now, as quickly after getting a +opk as possible...do not wait.

[prayforprincess]

So, we made 2 attempts last night.
Dtd waited 90 minutes and then dtd again. No touch up rephresh and no jump and dump. Used tiny tiny bit of sylk with 2nd attempt.
I used 1/2 application of rephresh this morning. And now we will dtd again tonight using dh 2nd batch. He will come home and release and then we will dtd 1-2 hours later.
If my opk's are not 100% positive today then we will dtd again tomorrow night using his 2nd batch.
I will most likely o on Friday. I have a good feeling about this cycle.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all well not sure whats going on but my test this morning was not very dark at all.... im hoping bub is ok not sure what to think, how many days after implantation does the test turn positive ?

[mydream]

congrats littlemiss!!! I am not sure about the answer to your ? but I am praying all is fine!! try not to worry!

[auroara78]

Not sure Little miss, I hope everything is OK.

I have a good feeling about your cycle resulting in a BFP, PFP.... :fingers: crossed!

[KraizyDaizy]

LMN7 I am praying for you. Your bean will be fine, it's just early.

Finally got my progesterone blood work results and this month my level went down from the whopping fly to the moon with excitement 38 to an okay not optimistic 28.2. I know my doc said that level still means that I actually ovulated, its just a little lower and to call her if I got my next cycle. Grrrhhhh! I mean I am happy I Oed, but just thought it would be higher somehow. I did the test on cd21 just like last month, but maybe I Oed later or earlier than the same cd15 and that made the numbers off? I know my temp was lower on cd21 and then shot up on cd22, so maybe if I had the blood work done the next day it would have been higher due to the temp rise? My temp went down a tad this morning as well, so I am bummed....I do not want to take Clomid any longer than I have to and it seems like I may have to take it again booohoooo!!!!

Just went to FF chart and looked at my notes and I adjusted some temps that I work up earlier or whatever and thought I needed to adjust them. So I went back in today and changed them to the original temps and I have the same O day, but my chart just looks more accurate. Care to take a look, it's in my siggy?

[prayforprincess]

Head up KD -- you ovulated and did a lot of bd-ing. You have a great chance for this month!! I am rooting for you.

Littlemiss- Its still early. Didn't u say u thought you were only now 9dpo?? Its not going to be dark at that point. It does not start to get darker, like as dark as the control line until after 14dpo. Up til then, the test line is always lighter than the control line. But there is a line -- so that is positive! I am sure it is just early still. Give it a week and then line will get darker. It does not happen overnight. Don't forget that it takes 2-3 days for the hcg to double to even show a "darker" line.

Thanks Auroara -- I am feeling pretty good. Just hope all the little girl swimmers are strong and mighty and push those boys out of their way.
We are going to continue to dtd every night using his 2nd batch (so release when he gets home and dtd 1-2 hours later)until I get a dark confirmed +opk.

I think I will be o-ing on Friday. So we will have had 2 attempts 0-3, 1 attempt o-2, 1 attempt o-1.

My mother in law is forcing us to go to Disney with my dh's whole family in October. I am thinking "great, I just might be 32 weeks pg flying to Florida." All I am thinking is that my behind is going to be parked on the lounge at the pool and my husband, his mother, sister, brother and aunt can take care of the 3 crazy boys running around.

[KraizyDaizy]

Thanks so much for the encouragement PFP! I really appreciate it!!!

[auroara78]

PFP, can I ask some history on your 3 boys? Like did you always know you wanted a girl, or did the longing grow from having 3 boys in a row? hehe just curous because I only wanted girls from Day 1 and hearing boy twice was shocking (though, I don't know why, based on everything I've read here, I live a very "boy" lifestyle)...was just curious when you knew for sure that you really were going to do everything in your power to try for a girl?

I definitely took DS2 harder than 1 because after the inital surprise that DS1 was a boy (I kept thinking he had to be a girl, no real reason), I had hope that I had another chance with my 2nd, and I was even more sure that 2nd was a boy because that baby just *had* to be a girl (because I already had my boy, so why not girl?)

This time, even though I did sway and changed behaviors, I am very aware that I could hear boy for a 3rd time, and I think being so prepared (I'm hoping!) will help me so if I do hear boy again, I can at least be happy that I tried. I hope if I do hear boy that I don't second guess what I did to sway, etc. I really, really long for peace with whatever this bean is.

[pearl]

Hello, pink swayers!!! I have two boys, DS#1 is almost 7 and DS#2 is 5. Dreaming to have a little girl !!!! I am going to try this month (March) and today is my first day on Clomid (50mg), also LE diet, low sodium, low pottassium since January, SP suppl, B6 and FAcid. My ovulation is on March 26-28. I have a very nice swaying plan from gender dreaming, so hopefully we will get our girls at the end of this year. I practically do everything to sway pink :)))

[KraizyDaizy]

Hello, pink swayers!!! I have two boys, DS#1 is almost 7 and DS#2 is 5. Dreaming to have a little girl !!!! I am going to try this month (March) and today is my first day on Clomid (50mg), also LE diet, low sodium, low pottassium since January, SP suppl, B6 and FAcid. My ovulation is on March 26-28. I have a very nice swaying plan from gender dreaming, so hopefully we will get our girls at the end of this year. I practically do everything to sway pink :)))

Nice to meet you Pearl, welcome to the club!

[maybeoneday]

Congratulations on your BFP LMN7, that is great news. FX all works out fine. I am sure all will be fine and pink.:HH:

I got my :) this morning so will be attempting tonight! eek! Will try and get in more than one attempt as really want a BFP this month. The swaying seems to be falling by the wayside (but I have lost over a stone so look good! :-) )

Good luck with your attempt P4P and it must be about time for you sweetsister as we are eternal cycle buddies :-)

GL to everyone else testing or attempting for those last 2012 baby attempts! xx

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all well im ok at the mo i took another frer and the line does look darker so im not stressing anymore, girls do any of you think the left/right side that you felt implantation on means boy or girl ??

[prayforprincess]

Welcome Pearl.

Auroara -- I guess before I had children I never really thought about my desire for a daughter because I just always assumed I would have one. As a child I used to beg my mother for a little sister. Never got one.
Then when I got pregnant with ds1, I did not think much about it. I would have loved for it to be a girl but I knew my dh really wanted a son, so I was happy to give him a son. He was so thrilled he yelled out "F*#k YA!" during the ultrasound scan. After ds1 was born I knew that I needed my next to be a girl since dh already had his boy. I started obsessing over it but was not educated in swaying so did not really know much about how to make it happen. I knew about the Shettle's method but could not calculate my ovulation well so, we just tried to get pregnant and I relied on luck and god to gift me with a girl. And then I got Tommy. I cried hysterically when I had the ultrasound and they told me boy. I felt like my back was to the wall and my next child just had to be a girl. It would be my last chance. Ofcourse my Thomas is the most handsome boy ever and I would not trade him for anything. Then with ds3 I was really obsessed but again not educated enough. I heard about the calcium/magnesium but put my husband on the pills. I knew about lowering sperm count so we dtd every day from af-o. We were trying for a cut off but I ended up bd-ing thru o. At the time 2 of my gf's became pg and I just wanted to be pregnant too. I never thought I would have a third boy. It was devistating at his u/s. I had pretty bad GD for a few weeks. I went straight from my u/s to the fertility specialist and asked if they were doing IVF with PGD. I knew I had to have a 4th child and it had to be a girl. I was not taking any chances. I could not live without a daughter. So after giving birth to ds3 I was confidant that my next would be a girl since we were doing IVF. I would have never imagined in a million years that 3 cycles and a frozen cycle later I still would not have my daughter, that what I though was a guarantee would be such a failure and I would be again leaving fate up to chance. Chance and luck has never been on my side so I am very scared to sway. But its all I have left as HT just was not working for us.
I will be crushed at the thought that my dream of having a daughter will never come true. Sometimes I want to bargin with above, I say that if I could just have my daughter I never have to get anything I want for the rest of my life. That is all I need to complete my life -- take all my other wants and needs and throw them away. Never grant me another wish but please gift me with my daughter.
I just dont want to live forever wondering what she would have looked like, what it would have been like to raise her, how she would have changed our lives, feeling jealous of mother's I see with their daughter's or hearing than another is pg with a daughter. I hate feeling like that -- I just want to be happy for other's but instead I think "how did she get a dd and I cannot". The only way to put all these feelings to rest is to have my own dd -- and these feeling consume my thoughts, my days, my whole life. I truly want it to be over, I want to move forward and move on from this and focus on more important things. I don't want to live the rest of my life with these feelings -- that would just be eternal torture.

[_Lala_]

Welcome Pearl
I just dont want to live forever wondering what she would have looked like, what it would have been like to raise her, how she would have changed our lives, feeling jealous of mother's I see with their daughter's or hearing than another is pg with a daughter. I hate feeling like that -- I just want to be happy for other's but instead I think "how did she get a dd and I cannot". The only way to put all these feelings to rest is to have my own dd -- and these feeling consume my thoughts, my days, my whole life. I truly want it to be over, I want to move forward and move on from this and focus on more important things. I don't want to live the rest of my life with these feelings -- that would just be eternal torture.

PFP this made me emotional reading your post - it is precisely the exact way that i feel. It really would be torture for me to go through life and not have a daughter. Everyone always says to me 'oh you so need to have a little girl' or 'i can't wait til you have a little mini-me' etc, and to think that that may never happen is more than i can really bare. So i am trying to stay positive, but there is no way that my DP would ever agree to have another one if this turns out to be a boy - he was happy with one child! i guess i'm just wishing for all the luck in the world to help this come true for me.
So DP and i dtd this morning (about 3hrs ago), only ended up being once because he had to go to work early. I am happy that we did it first thing in the morning, didnt do a J&D and he didnt have hot shower beforehand, but I'm hoping that being warm in bed helped toast those spermies a little bit. Fingers crossed this gets me my little girl i have dreamed about since i was a girl myself. Eek, i'm feeling nervous!!

Good luck with your attempt Maybe...hope all goes according to plan.
Welcome Pearl
Fingers crossed that everything works out for you KD...this can all get very frustrating. You're not out.
Hi to everyone else

[amari]

Littlemiss-Glad you are feeling better! You got a BFP so early! That is prob why it was so light!

KD-GL testing coming up soon, right? I know it sucks being on clomid. I hate it too. It feels like you have no control over your fertility. I'm right there with you.

Pearl-Welcome and good luck to you!!

PP-HOpe your attempts are going well!

Sweetsister-I don't know if it the clomid hormones or just us having lost weight and our bodies not liking it but, yes, the hunger is getting hard to take. I had to have my evening snack which I usually have as my dessert later after dinner around 9:30 as a mini meal at 6 tonight instead. I will have dinner in a bit. I really do hope this is my month and everyone else's esp who has been on the diet for awhile b/c it is getting to me!

HOpe-How's my cycle buddy doing?

Hi anyone I missed!

[sweetsister]

Congratulations on your BFP LMN7, that is great news. FX all works out fine. I am sure all will be fine and pink.:HH:

I got my :) this morning so will be attempting tonight! eek! Will try and get in more than one attempt as really want a BFP this month. The swaying seems to be falling by the wayside (but I have lost over a stone so look good! :-) )

Good luck with your attempt P4P and it must be about time for you sweetsister as we are eternal cycle buddies :-)

GL to everyone else testing or attempting for those last 2012 baby attempts! xx

Im laughing because i finally got a positive opk MSDay:) Well it is first thing in the morning and i tested which i normally wait til afternoon so im happy i did!We really are cycle buddies hey?
I dtd last night with preseed SCARY and took half the reccomended dose of robitussin even SCARIER but i think its even a worse fate that id have to be on the diet another month!It is so much easier dtd on clomid with preseed though,ill sasy that:giggle:
Amari i do think its the clomid i am hungry from the time i wake up and while i eat still even when im done eating STILL hungry!
Im going to start eating as soon as i know ive ovulated i cant beleive it will harm my chances of a pink bean implanting?What do you all think?
:cheerteam: just think about next christmas we all might have a little December baby girl ladies:HH::awe::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck: