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Reline
January 1st, 2019, 01:34 PM
First of all thank u so much for all your work. I am a 30-year-old woman who got my first daughter in August 2016. If I have to be completely honest, I was quite disappointed when I found out the sex because I had hoped so much for a boy, because both my mother, my sister and my sister-in-law all have boys as the first child. I had just heard a little about swaying on other internet sites but I had no idea that Genderdreaming existed. I have always eaten breakfast but now that I read about the different diets I realize that I had a pinkfriendly diet. I didn't eat much meat or protein at all. I didn't eat so much vegetables. I always liked sweets and pastries. I ate a lot of dairy products. Drink a lot of diet cola. I didn't eat all the time, but ate only when I was hungry. I've always been slim. I dont have many muscles. I have a big brother who first got a son and then a daughter. My big sister has only one son. My mother had a son, two daughters, a miscarriage and then a son when she was 42 years old. My husband is soon turning 34 years and he has 6 brothers and two sisters. I have a girlmom personality. I'm pretty shy, don't talk much, but at the same time I like to have control and I worry about the smallest things and think too much, which is a little boymom personality? When we were trying for our first child, we had just one or two attempts near ovulation. So we only had intercourse near the ovulation once or twice and we did nothing on the whole cycle, because I had heard that you get a boy if you only have intercourse around ovulation. I would love to have a son, but I am so afraid that it will be a daughter, I would rather have only one child than two daughters. But when I read about swaying I get so much hope. My question to you Atomic, with all your experience, do you think I have a chance to get a son? When you read the information about me, do you think the chance is greater that I get a girl again? I am ready to buy a personalized plan and invest in swaying but I am soooo afraid to fail.
Thank u so much in advance for your reply
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atomic sagebrush
January 1st, 2019, 04:16 PM
If you really can't handle another daughter your best bet is going to be IVF. Swaying can help but it is not 100% - we get about 70% success rate and I don't want to make promises to you that I can't keep. There is a lot we could change to help sway blue (and I think you have just as good a chance as anyone!!) but I can't promise you that you will get a girl.
If you want to get a plan I will help you however I can. It's just that when I see someone who says they are very afraid to get an opposite and that they'd rather not have a second of their same gender, I can't promise that even the best sway succeeds - too much is left in the hands of fate even with an ideal sway.
Welcome to the site!
Reline
January 1st, 2019, 05:00 PM
If you really can't handle another daughter your best bet is going to be IVF. Swaying can help but it is not 100% - we get about 70% success rate and I don't want to make promises to you that I can't keep. There is a lot we could change to help sway blue (and I think you have just as good a chance as anyone!!) but I can't promise you that you will get a girl.
If you want to get a plan I will help you however I can. It's just that when I see someone who says they are very afraid to get an opposite and that they'd rather not have a second of their same gender, I can't promise that even the best sway succeeds - too much is left in the hands of fate even with an ideal sway.
Welcome to the site!
Thank u so much Atomic. I think i just have to read a little bit more about swaying and hopefully get the courage to sway. There is only one thing that I have reflected on and that is childbirth. I have observed that most of those who get boys (as their first child) have slightly longer and more difficult births than those who get girls and those women who have a very simple delivery with their first child, often get more daughters. What do you think of this? Is this something that you have noticed?
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atomic sagebrush
January 2nd, 2019, 02:51 PM
Nope not anything I've noticed at all. We have had plenty of people who had easy births with boys (myself included) and difficult ones with girls.
Reline
January 2nd, 2019, 05:08 PM
Nope not anything I've noticed at all. We have had plenty of people who had easy births with boys (myself included) and difficult ones with girls.
Thank you very much for your reply Atomic. I live in Sweden, do you think it would make it harder for me to sway because the vitamins and products here differ from the USA? I feel it still a lot I don't know about swaying and I am thinking to sway maybe in the fall, do you think I should buy a personalized plan right now or should I wait a bit?
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atomic sagebrush
January 3rd, 2019, 02:53 PM
No many of my clients are from Sweden! We use very few supplements or products on this site as we've found they don't even work.
When to buy the plan is totally at your discretion. Some people like to have the plan very far in advance so they can get all their questions figured out. Others prefer to wait till more like 3 months before (that way they can do the diet for 6-12 weeks with my help) The only thing I'd advise against is waiting til the very last minute, that's just a stressful situation and you won't have enough time to get everything figured out before TTC!
Reline
January 3rd, 2019, 04:31 PM
No many of my clients are from Sweden! We use very few supplements or products on this site as we've found they don't even work.
When to buy the plan is totally at your discretion. Some people like to have the plan very far in advance so they can get all their questions figured out. Others prefer to wait till more like 3 months before (that way they can do the diet for 6-12 weeks with my help) The only thing I'd advise against is waiting til the very last minute, that's just a stressful situation and you won't have enough time to get everything figured out before TTC!
Thank you Atomic. I read a little about what was included in a personalized plan and I wonder what sperm count means? How does it work? My husband will probably not be willing to sway so this makes me a little nervous if it can ruin my sway? Another question I have is that I am currently on the pill and have done so since the end of 2016. What are your thoughts about it? Should I stop with them long before ttc?
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Reline
January 3rd, 2019, 05:08 PM
With the pill i mean birth control pills. (Please excuse my bad english)
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atomic sagebrush
January 4th, 2019, 12:59 PM
Most of our husbands would do nothing to sway. We focus on what we can do ourselves with a few little suggestions for the husbands.
Yes for a boy I'd come off the pill as soon as you can and use other forms of birth control that are not affecting your hormones.
Sperm count is just a way to help improve the amount of healthy sperm your husband makes. This is not difficult at all, mainly requiring sex or "release" for him every 2-4 days and some vitamins which he may be willing to take, as they are pretty minor and have no side effects.
Reline
January 5th, 2019, 05:18 PM
Most of our husbands would do nothing to sway. We focus on what we can do ourselves with a few little suggestions for the husbands.
Yes for a boy I'd come off the pill as soon as you can and use other forms of birth control that are not affecting your hormones.
Sperm count is just a way to help improve the amount of healthy sperm your husband makes. This is not difficult at all, mainly requiring sex or "release" for him every 2-4 days and some vitamins which he may be willing to take, as they are pretty minor and have no side effects.
Thank you Atomic. As I mentioned earlier, I am new here and I feel that I need to read more about swaying because there is still a lot I dont know. I have tried to read a little but I dont know where to start, I become overwhelmed because there is so much information. What is your advice? Where and how is the best way to start reading about swaying for a boy here on GD?
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atomic sagebrush
January 7th, 2019, 01:39 PM
Here's a good place to start: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/27056-he-diet-faq.html
The Complete Index is here (although this is a LOT of info all at once) https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html
I have a lot of links that are stickied at the tops of these forums. I would scroll thru and see the ones that are on the topics you are wanting to know about, and read them. Skip anythign that isn't of interest for now. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/
https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-boy-best-practices/
And then this forum has info for both pink and blue, but lots of good stuff in here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/
Reline
January 8th, 2019, 04:59 PM
Here's a good place to start: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/27056-he-diet-faq.html
The Complete Index is here (although this is a LOT of info all at once) https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html
I have a lot of links that are stickied at the tops of these forums. I would scroll thru and see the ones that are on the topics you are wanting to know about, and read them. Skip anythign that isn't of interest for now. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/
https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-boy-best-practices/
And then this forum has info for both pink and blue, but lots of good stuff in here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/
Than you so much Atomic for this threads, I’ve already learn so much, even though I haven't had time to read everything. I have a question about the attempts, when u say do 3 attempts on O-day, do u mean having sex 3 times in one day? Like once in the morning, once in the middle of the day and once in the evening? And O-day, is it when i get a smiley face on the opk-test?
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atomic sagebrush
January 9th, 2019, 02:51 PM
No I want you to do OPK and have attempt the night of the positive OPK, again the next morning, and again the following night (so that is 3 attempts in 2 days.)
O Day is the day AFTER positive OPK, usually.
Reline
January 9th, 2019, 04:54 PM
No I want you to do OPK and have attempt the night of the positive OPK, again the next morning, and again the following night (so that is 3 attempts in 2 days.)
O Day is the day AFTER positive OPK, usually.
Thank u Atomic!! You explain in such a good way! I have just one question; In one thread I came across this: ”You can do everything "right" and still conceive an opposite. It's because it's not what you do that sways, it's how your body reacts to what you do, so if your body is still doing the "girl stuff" even if you eat the most boy-friendly diet you can get your hands on, you will still be more likely to conceive a girl.” This make me so nervous!! What does it mean? How can I change it so my body wouldnt do girl stuff? Is it about the attitude?
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atomic sagebrush
January 10th, 2019, 12:12 PM
You can't, hun. That's just the way it works. Swaying is not 100% or even close to it. If it was, the entire human race would have died out a long time ago. People have to keep having some boys and girls all the time no matter what their tribe or culture is eating/doing, so there are some biological factors at play that are always going to be out of our control.
We do what we can do and end up going from about 66% likely to have another of our same gender with a pink friendly lifestyle, to 66% likely to have the opposite gender. For some people this may even be a little more lik 70-75%. But that appears to be the best we can do - there's just some setting(s) in our body that prevent swaying from being 100% ever.
Reline
January 13th, 2019, 04:21 PM
You can't, hun. That's just the way it works. Swaying is not 100% or even close to it. If it was, the entire human race would have died out a long time ago. People have to keep having some boys and girls all the time no matter what their tribe or culture is eating/doing, so there are some biological factors at play that are always going to be out of our control.
We do what we can do and end up going from about 66% likely to have another of our same gender with a pink friendly lifestyle, to 66% likely to have the opposite gender. For some people this may even be a little more lik 70-75%. But that appears to be the best we can do - there's just some setting(s) in our body that prevent swaying from being 100% ever.
Thank you so much for your response Atomic. It scares me that my body can be very girly and that I can't do anything about it. But what also scares me is that my husband may have no teosterone. He is very calm and never gets angry, like never! Could this be a problem for a blue sway? Then I wonder about the personalized plan. How does it work? Do I get a detailed plan for my situation? Is it based on my age, weight, eating habits etc? Or is it a general that works for all people who want to sway blue? Is the plan detailed? Is it exactly what amount I should eat and how often?
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atomic sagebrush
January 13th, 2019, 06:11 PM
You can do something about it and become more boy friendly, just that it won't ever be 100%, that's all.
Testosterone in men has never been proven to sway and in fact, we know of many balding men (balding men have lots of testosterone) who have all daughters, like Bruce Willis. I would not worry a bit about your husband's demeanor, we do not even know that his personality has anything to do with the gender of offspring.
The personalized plan is everything BUT diet (with some diet tips) and yes it's all personalized to you based on age, weight, eating patterns, health history, etc. Then, in the coaching that comes with the plan, I help you on a day to day basis with your diet using the foods that YOU like and will eat rather than having me make some diet up for you that you may not even like at all. It works much better than prepackaged diet plans. We do also have a general plan but just get the personalized one instead.
Reline
January 20th, 2019, 02:08 PM
You can do something about it and become more boy friendly, just that it won't ever be 100%, that's all.
Testosterone in men has never been proven to sway and in fact, we know of many balding men (balding men have lots of testosterone) who have all daughters, like Bruce Willis. I would not worry a bit about your husband's demeanor, we do not even know that his personality has anything to do with the gender of offspring.
The personalized plan is everything BUT diet (with some diet tips) and yes it's all personalized to you based on age, weight, eating patterns, health history, etc. Then, in the coaching that comes with the plan, I help you on a day to day basis with your diet using the foods that YOU like and will eat rather than having me make some diet up for you that you may not even like at all. It works much better than prepackaged diet plans. We do also have a general plan but just get the personalized one instead.
Thank u Atomic! I have a question about the frequency. So if it is better to bd a lot for a blue sway because it makes the women more boy friendly, but we cant tcc before i’ve been swaying with diet, vitamins and workout for at least 6 weeks, so is it ok to use protection in those weeks?
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atomic sagebrush
January 20th, 2019, 06:28 PM
It's believed to be exposure to the hormones in semen that may make you more boy friendly, so it's better to have unprotected sex out of the fertile window.
Reline
January 21st, 2019, 03:58 PM
It's believed to be exposure to the hormones in semen that may make you more boy friendly, so it's better to have unprotected sex out of the fertile window.
Thank u Atomic. I see that the personalized plan include vaginal ph, but i dont understand how im suppose to mesure that? Cause as i understand it, is not the urine you test, its the cm? But the cm is not that fluid, so how should i do?
Another thing i wonder is the chewing gum like Extra, which contains sweeteners, is it bad for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
January 21st, 2019, 04:45 PM
We have not found that measuring pH is helpful. We have seen too many pH opposites for me to believe testing pH tells us anything at all. When we say the plan "includes pH" it means that we have done things that should "raise pH" even though I don't believe pH matters one bit and testing it for sure doesn't matter.
Yes I"d avoid the artificial sweeteners in Extra if at all possible.
Reline
January 22nd, 2019, 04:08 PM
We have not found that measuring pH is helpful. We have seen too many pH opposites for me to believe testing pH tells us anything at all. When we say the plan "includes pH" it means that we have done things that should "raise pH" even though I don't believe pH matters one bit and testing it for sure doesn't matter.
Yes I"d avoid the artificial sweeteners in Extra if at all possible.
Thank you so much Atomic, it feels like a relief, because I dont know much about changing my ph. As I have mentioned before, I live in Sweden and I am thinking to sway this fall, is it any special month that you think is best suited for blue sway? it is very cold here during autumn / winter. do not know if it has any significance?
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atomic sagebrush
January 24th, 2019, 03:00 PM
While I"m unaware of any data from Sweden, a good few studies done in Italy found there was a boy peak in Sept-Novemnber (and I suspect it would, if anything start even earlier in Sweden, so maybe even into August.)
Reline
January 25th, 2019, 02:25 PM
While I"m unaware of any data from Sweden, a good few studies done in Italy found there was a boy peak in Sept-Novemnber (and I suspect it would, if anything start even earlier in Sweden, so maybe even into August.)
Thank you Atomic, but has the month when you ttc big importance? I have read that many blue swayer sway for about 6 weeks before ttc, I understand that it can be enough to go on the diet for 6 weeks but is it enough when it comes to the vitamins and exercise? Should you start with the vitamins and exercise before? I started lifting weights a few months ago and trying to increase weights over time
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atomic sagebrush
January 25th, 2019, 04:06 PM
No only a couple percentage points of difference. It's great if it can work out to TTC in those fall months, but it's no biggie if you can't. I got two boys in "girl" months and my girl (and me) in boy months!
Vitamins can be started as far in advance as possible. I like you guys to start easy weight lifting as far in advance as is feasible for you. Please note, I mean EASY! You don't need and in fact shouldn't, start off doing super intense weight lifting if you've never done it before!!
Reline
January 26th, 2019, 05:54 PM
No only a couple percentage points of difference. It's great if it can work out to TTC in those fall months, but it's no biggie if you can't. I got two boys in "girl" months and my girl (and me) in boy months!
Vitamins can be started as far in advance as possible. I like you guys to start easy weight lifting as far in advance as is feasible for you. Please note, I mean EASY! You don't need and in fact shouldn't, start off doing super intense weight lifting if you've never done it before!!
Thank u Atomic! You are so kind, always responding to my annoying questions. Im wondering about the full HE diet in Dream members section, does it inklude more information/ more details about the diet? Is it information gathered in one page or is it more like chatforums where people are writing things about the He diet?
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atomic sagebrush
January 27th, 2019, 02:59 PM
I have some additional essays and there are other forums in there and I'm always trying to more as I go along. I did make a shorter version of the HE Diet here https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html and the FAQ is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/27056-he-diet-faq.html I do always appreciate the Dream Memberships as it allows me to answer questions (in the paid and free forums alike) as a job and not have to work outside the home - I'd not be able to answer questions at all in that case. :)
Reline
February 2nd, 2019, 01:55 PM
I have some additional essays and there are other forums in there and I'm always trying to more as I go along. I did make a shorter version of the HE Diet here https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html and the FAQ is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/27056-he-diet-faq.html I do always appreciate the Dream Memberships as it allows me to answer questions (in the paid and free forums alike) as a job and not have to work outside the home - I'd not be able to answer questions at all in that case. :)
Thank u Atomic. I absolutely want to support Dream Member sections because you are gold for us. I want to read a little more before I get there and before I buy a personalized plan. When it comes to eating 9-11 servings of fruits, does it mean 9-11 whole fruits per day? Then I wonder if sleep affects swaying? because I don't always get a lot of sleep a night and some nights I sleep very badly, can it ruin my blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
February 3rd, 2019, 12:04 PM
Just portions of fruit/veg and they're smaller than most people assume. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/add-color/fruits-and-vegetables-serving-sizes Things like juice and even the lemon in the lemon water count.
Sleep is good for a blue sway but I've never been the best sleeper and I have 4 boys. But the level of bad sleep I had when I got boys was nothing like what I had with my girl (I got very very sleep with her) So do your best but don't panic if you're not able to get 8 hours or anythign.
Reline
February 3rd, 2019, 12:32 PM
Just portions of fruit/veg and they're smaller than most people assume. https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/add-color/fruits-and-vegetables-serving-sizes Things like juice and even the lemon in the lemon water count.
Sleep is good for a blue sway but I've never been the best sleeper and I have 4 boys. But the level of bad sleep I had when I got boys was nothing like what I had with my girl (I got very very sleep with her) So do your best but don't panic if you're not able to get 8 hours or anythign.
Thank u Atomic. Do I need to eat 90 g of protein per day for blue sway? I don't know how i am suppose to get so much protein a day? Is it most red meat that is good for blue sway? which red meat is best? Does beef work because I really don't like lamb. Is canned tuna good for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
February 4th, 2019, 03:37 PM
90 g is a goal to aim at but what really matters is that you're eating more than you were when you got girls. So if you go from 40 g to 70 g that's still good.
It's actually not too difficult to get that amount of protein. If you give me a rough description on your food I can help you.
Any meat you like and will eat is fine. Beef is great. I've never eaten lamb. White meat is ok too though.
Tuna is fine but no more than 2x a week on fish due to risks of mercury overload when TTC.
Reline
February 5th, 2019, 02:11 PM
90 g is a goal to aim at but what really matters is that you're eating more than you were when you got girls. So if you go from 40 g to 70 g that's still good.
It's actually not too difficult to get that amount of protein. If you give me a rough description on your food I can help you.
Any meat you like and will eat is fine. Beef is great. I've never eaten lamb. White meat is ok too though.
Tuna is fine but no more than 2x a week on fish due to risks of mercury overload when TTC.
Thank u Atomic. I know that when I got my girl I did not eat much protein or vegetables, then my diet has changed recently, partly because I have read about bluesway for a while and partly because I started training but I still have to make big changes with my diet before I ttc. However, I have always eaten breakfast. An ordinary working day, I usually eat breakfast at 6.30, two toast (whole grain bread) with butter and cheese. At 10 am I eat crispbread with cheese. At 12.30 I eat lunch, it varies a lot what I eat for lunch, usually something vegetarian and if I eat meat, it is usually not a big piece. Usually not so much vegetables. At 3 pm I usually eat a banana. After four o'clock I usuaally start to eat small meals/snack, it can be fruit, oatmeal, crispbread or something unhealthy like cake or cheesesandwish. I dont eat any dinner. In the evening before I go to sleep I eat either eggs with bread or granola with natural yogurt. I've started eating more cottage cheese, peanut butter and nuts (almonds, walnuts) recently.
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atomic sagebrush
February 5th, 2019, 02:32 PM
I know it's hard when you're a light eater, so just focus on eating more than you were when you got girls. Don't worry if you can never eat as much as some of us with all boys do, just so you're moving in a blue friendly direction.
I would def. like to see a little more protein sneak in there, like with the banana. Bananas alone are not good boy friendly foods because they raise your blood sugar and then crash it, and have little other nutrients aside from potassium. I'd love to see you have a small amount of protein with the banana to be sure your blood sugar does not spike then crash - peanut butter or nuts is good with bananas.
Reline
February 7th, 2019, 02:01 PM
I know it's hard when you're a light eater, so just focus on eating more than you were when you got girls. Don't worry if you can never eat as much as some of us with all boys do, just so you're moving in a blue friendly direction.
I would def. like to see a little more protein sneak in there, like with the banana. Bananas alone are not good boy friendly foods because they raise your blood sugar and then crash it, and have little other nutrients aside from potassium. I'd love to see you have a small amount of protein with the banana to be sure your blood sugar does not spike then crash - peanut butter or nuts is good with bananas.
Atomic, you are amazing! I had no idea that the banana is affecting my blood sugar that way. So how much more do I need to increase my food intake? Do I need to eat more between meals? Do you think it is better that I start eating dinner instead of eating just before I sleep. Is cottage cheese blue friendly? Is chicken bluefriendly? What about pastries and buns? Is it good if I eat it with protein or it's better not to eat it at all? forgive me if I overpower you with questions, but a final question; How do I do if I want to become a Dream Member?
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atomic sagebrush
February 7th, 2019, 05:37 PM
What I want you to do is not necessarily eat more than you are (if you can't!) but focus on eating more than you were eating when you got your girls.
Try to eat protein and carbs at every meal and snack. Your eating patterns are at your discretion, you just want to avoid eating anything that's just straight up pure sugary carbs like candy or bananas unless you are eating protein at the same time. Also try not to get really hungry between meals.
Dinner vs. before bed, I leave at your discretion. I like you guys to have that bedtime snack, so if it's a choice of one or the other I'd be inclined for you to keep the bedtime snack.
Foods are not "blue/pink" friendly the way you're thinking of them. Most foods can be a part of a sway diet, it's the overall nutrient content of your diet that matter and not magic foods. Yes, you can have cottage cheese, chicken, and pastry and buns. BUT pastry and buns have a lot of calories for not a lot of nutrients, so you may be better off keeping them to a minimum and focusing more of your food on the healthiest options like fruits, veg, and meat.
Anything that is pure carbs (such as pastry and buns) needs to be with protein if at all posible.
To become a Dream Member, use this link and the first option is Dream Memberships! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/payments.php
Reline
February 10th, 2019, 04:19 PM
What I want you to do is not necessarily eat more than you are (if you can't!) but focus on eating more than you were eating when you got your girls.
Try to eat protein and carbs at every meal and snack. Your eating patterns are at your discretion, you just want to avoid eating anything that's just straight up pure sugary carbs like candy or bananas unless you are eating protein at the same time. Also try not to get really hungry between meals.
Dinner vs. before bed, I leave at your discretion. I like you guys to have that bedtime snack, so if it's a choice of one or the other I'd be inclined for you to keep the bedtime snack.
Foods are not "blue/pink" friendly the way you're thinking of them. Most foods can be a part of a sway diet, it's the overall nutrient content of your diet that matter and not magic foods. Yes, you can have cottage cheese, chicken, and pastry and buns. BUT pastry and buns have a lot of calories for not a lot of nutrients, so you may be better off keeping them to a minimum and focusing more of your food on the healthiest options like fruits, veg, and meat.
Anything that is pure carbs (such as pastry and buns) needs to be with protein if at all posible.
To become a Dream Member, use this link and the first option is Dream Memberships! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/payments.php
Thanks Atomic. So now I have become a Dream Member. Do I get any benefit? Which pages / information do I get access to for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
February 10th, 2019, 04:32 PM
Thanks so much for your Dream Membership! You get access to these forums https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/dream-member-gender-swaying-private-forum/ and also several other private forums for posting ultrasound pics and IVF (if you're interested in that)
Reline
February 14th, 2019, 06:59 AM
Thanks so much for your Dream Membership! You get access to these forums https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/dream-member-gender-swaying-private-forum/ and also several other private forums for posting ultrasound pics and IVF (if you're interested in that)
Thank u Atomic. Is it better to snack all the time and have smaller meals or better to have larger meals with a little bit longer space inbetween?
Is 100 g of protein from meat as much worth as 100g from e.g. egg or nuts or something else? Or is it more boyfriendly to get the protein from animals?
I’ve also noticed that those who have been on the diet only for 6 weeks have better results than those who have used the diet for longer. Why is that do u think? Why is tea good for blue?
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atomic sagebrush
February 14th, 2019, 04:21 PM
Whatever will work best for you, and it's fine to switch back and forth between all different sorts of methods as your needs vary day by day.
We honestly don't know if meat is better than eggs or nuts or whatever. We just don't know enough to say for sure. What I do know is you have to eat way more eggs/nuts to get the same amount of protein and that may be tough - not impossible, but tough if you're already full from other stuff. I always ate eggs and nuts with my boys, but did eat meat as well.
I think that is a coincidence. We have found that people who have trouble conceiving have more girls than the population as a whole, and so some couples who go on many months not conceiving may be more "set" for pink. And additionally, some people end up gaining too much weight and being on a high sodium, low calcium diet too long (if they're doing those things) But this is in no way a sure thing and we have had several people such as honeybee and meoab who struggled for years to conceive and ended up with boys in the end.
We don't know why tea is better for blue. It's just a strong trend we've noticed. I got all four of my boys with tea and switched to coffee to get my girl - not that this proved anything, but I believe it does something tangible for blue, even though I don't know what it is yet.
Reline
February 16th, 2019, 03:28 PM
Whatever will work best for you, and it's fine to switch back and forth between all different sorts of methods as your needs vary day by day.
We honestly don't know if meat is better than eggs or nuts or whatever. We just don't know enough to say for sure. What I do know is you have to eat way more eggs/nuts to get the same amount of protein and that may be tough - not impossible, but tough if you're already full from other stuff. I always ate eggs and nuts with my boys, but did eat meat as well.
I think that is a coincidence. We have found that people who have trouble conceiving have more girls than the population as a whole, and so some couples who go on many months not conceiving may be more "set" for pink. And additionally, some people end up gaining too much weight and being on a high sodium, low calcium diet too long (if they're doing those things) But this is in no way a sure thing and we have had several people such as honeybee and meoab who struggled for years to conceive and ended up with boys in the end.
We don't know why tea is better for blue. It's just a strong trend we've noticed. I got all four of my boys with tea and switched to coffee to get my girl - not that this proved anything, but I believe it does something tangible for blue, even though I don't know what it is yet.
Thank u Atomic! I want to talk about supplements. I have been taking a pill a day for many years (even when I conceived my daughter) of a multivitamin that contains this:
A-vitamin 250 µg (31)
D3 7,5 µg (150)
E-vitamin 10 mg (83)
B1 0,7 mg (64)
B2 0,8 mg (57)
Nikotinamid (B3) 9 mg (56)
B6 0,8 mg (57)
Folic acid 200 µg (100)
B12 1 µg (40)
C-vitamin 60 mg (75)
Biotin 15 µg (30)
Pantothenate 2,5 mg (42)
Iron 7,5 mg (54)
Zink 7 mg (70)
Copper 0,45 mg (45)
Iodine 75 µg (50)
Manganese 0,5 mg (25)
Chromium 25 µg (63)
Selenium 30 µg (55)
Molybdenum 50 µg (100)
Kalcium 120 mg (15)
Magnesium 58 mg (15)
I still take this tablet. Since January, I have started taking three new supplements. One pill a day vitamin d: Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) 10 µg
One pill a day b12: Vitamin B12 (cyanokobalamin) 1 mg.
one tablet a day calcium / magnesium: 74 mg magnesium/39mg kalcium
Do you think I should stop or continue with any of these for blue sway? What other supplements do you think I should add? I live in Sweden, so we do not have the same brands as in the US.
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atomic sagebrush
February 16th, 2019, 04:47 PM
Those are all fine. :agree:
Can you get a fish oil or probiotic?
Reline
February 16th, 2019, 06:17 PM
Those are all fine. :agree:
Can you get a fish oil or probiotic?
Thank u Atomic! Is probiotic a supplement containing good bacteria? Should i take both fish oil and probiotic or both? Wich amount should I take a day? Do u think im getting enough of folic acid and vitamin D? I’ve noticed that some blue swayers take Guaifenesin? I’ve googled it and we have something here in Sweden that helps to dissolve the mucus from the airways and make it easier to cough up. Is it right? Should DH start taking fish oil as well? He takes multivitamins and vitamin D.
I weigh 125 lbs and am 65 inches long and I weighed as much when I conceived my daughter. How much do you think I should gain weight? Thank u for your time!
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atomic sagebrush
February 18th, 2019, 02:04 PM
Yes! It has the healthy bacteria that help digest your food and get more nutrients from it, and even make some nutrients for you.
Yes, you need both probiotic and fish oil, they're two totally different things.
Yes DH can take fish oil too.
What is the chemical name of the medication that is like guaifenesin?? there are some other similar medications that are ok, but others need to be avoided and I'll be able to check that for you.
3-5 lbs is a good weight gain.
Reline
February 24th, 2019, 02:51 PM
Yes! It has the healthy bacteria that help digest your food and get more nutrients from it, and even make some nutrients for you.
Yes, you need both probiotic and fish oil, they're two totally different things.
Yes DH can take fish oil too.
What is the chemical name of the medication that is like guaifenesin?? there are some other similar medications that are ok, but others need to be avoided and I'll be able to check that for you.
3-5 lbs is a good weight gain.
Thank u Atomic. How do I know what amount of probotic and fish oil I should take each day? There are many different types of fish oil, which type do you recommend? The guaifensin we have in Sweden contains ethanol, glucose and sucrose, do u think thats right?
atomic sagebrush
February 25th, 2019, 12:18 PM
There is no set amount on probiotic.
Fish oil 500 mg a day, no more.
I don't recommend brand names. There are too many all around the world and I cannot keep up with them all.
Yes that's normal for guaifenesin syrups
Reline
March 4th, 2019, 07:11 AM
There is no set amount on probiotic.
Fish oil 500 mg a day, no more.
I don't recommend brand names. There are too many all around the world and I cannot keep up with them all.
Yes that's normal for guaifenesin syrups
Thank u som much Atomic. Should DH also take max 500 mg fish oil or can he take more? What do you think of protein powder? He drinks protein powder that contains casein. What do you think about quark? He eats that like every day. The guaifenesin we have in Sweden makes me a little nervous. It contains so much ethanol and it says that you have to consult a doctor if you are going to take it and plan to get children. Is it enough that I take it or must DH also take it? Thank you so much for your time Atomic !!
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atomic sagebrush
March 5th, 2019, 12:56 PM
I prefer hubbies take 500 also. We used to do 1000 and since research indicates that may be enough to lower cholesterol (and in turn sex hormones, since they're made from cholesterol) I've dialed that back and I feel we've gotten better results since that time.
I prefer real foods to protein powder, but of the protein powders available, the casein/whey type is much better than soy.
Quark is also better than soy although again I prefer meat whenever possible.
Most medications say you should consult a doctor. CAn you get the kind that is a pill form?
Only you need to take the guaifenesin unless you have reason to believe that your husband has really thick, clumpy semen.
Reline
March 5th, 2019, 02:23 PM
I prefer hubbies take 500 also. We used to do 1000 and since research indicates that may be enough to lower cholesterol (and in turn sex hormones, since they're made from cholesterol) I've dialed that back and I feel we've gotten better results since that time.
I prefer real foods to protein powder, but of the protein powders available, the casein/whey type is much better than soy.
Quark is also better than soy although again I prefer meat whenever possible.
Most medications say you should consult a doctor. CAn you get the kind that is a pill form?
Only you need to take the guaifenesin unless you have reason to believe that your husband has really thick, clumpy semen.
Thank u so much Atomic! It does not seem like we have guaifenesin in pill form, how does it differ from liquid form? Is it enough that I only take guaifenesin before ttc or do I have to start early with it just like the other vitamins? I wonder the same thing about probiotic, do I have to start early with it or is it enough that I start about 6 weeks before ttc? A very stupid question but how do I know if my husband has really thick, clumpy semen?
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atomic sagebrush
March 7th, 2019, 08:59 PM
It just has a different set of ingredients so if the ethanol was worrying you, pills don't have that.
It's not a big deal though. The liquid is fine.
Guaifenesin is only month that you are TTC, it's not like vitamins.
He probably doesn't have it, I'm not convinced many men do. It would just come out more like clumps and not so much liquid. (I honestly think this is probably not even a real thing)
Reline
March 23rd, 2019, 06:39 AM
It just has a different set of ingredients so if the ethanol was worrying you, pills don't have that.
It's not a big deal though. The liquid is fine.
Guaifenesin is only month that you are TTC, it's not like vitamins.
He probably doesn't have it, I'm not convinced many men do. It would just come out more like clumps and not so much liquid. (I honestly think this is probably not even a real thing)
Thanks Atomic! I've read somewhere that almonds sway pink, what do you think about that? Because I have started eating a lot of almonds as a snack. Is it good to drink fruit tea or does it sway pink? Is it better to drink regular black tea? Because green tea lowers my blood pressure. Is it bad if DH runs? He runs about one to two times a week for about 30-40 min
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atomic sagebrush
March 23rd, 2019, 08:20 AM
You can have almonds as a snack for boys. I regularly ate 1/2 cup almonds or walnuts every morning when I got my last two boys. The trick is that you must have more animal-based fats and proteins than vegetable based. So you can have almonds, but you ALSO need to be eating a good amount of animal based fats and proteins at the same time for your best chance at a boy. Getting more vegetable based fats than animal may sway pink.
Both green and black tea are great. Occasionally people notice that green tea messes up their cycle, but most don't have this effect. Have whichever you prefer.
Fruit teas are fine and we don't believe they sway, but be sure there are no herbs in them - especially licorice and peppermint.
DH running has been shown in studies to sway pink. If there's any way he can give that up for a while then that's great, if not, 1-2 times a week is sure better than daily!
Reline
March 25th, 2019, 01:50 PM
You can have almonds as a snack for boys. I regularly ate 1/2 cup almonds or walnuts every morning when I got my last two boys. The trick is that you must have more animal-based fats and proteins than vegetable based. So you can have almonds, but you ALSO need to be eating a good amount of animal based fats and proteins at the same time for your best chance at a boy. Getting more vegetable based fats than animal may sway pink.
Both green and black tea are great. Occasionally people notice that green tea messes up their cycle, but most don't have this effect. Have whichever you prefer.
Fruit teas are fine and we don't believe they sway, but be sure there are no herbs in them - especially licorice and peppermint.
DH running has been shown in studies to sway pink. If there's any way he can give that up for a while then that's great, if not, 1-2 times a week is sure better than daily!
Thank you very much Atomic! My husband eats a lot of dates, what do you think about that? Is it good for blue sway? Is it good to use coconut oil to fry instead of rapeseed oil? I read once that feeling defeated sway pink and I remember that I definitely had that feeling when I conceived our daughter. Do you have any advice on how to get rid of that feeling?
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atomic sagebrush
March 25th, 2019, 04:53 PM
I think dates are fine - it's the rare food that in and of itself sways strongly in a particular way.
Yes please use coconut oil instead of rapeseed oil (or butter/ghee/lard/schmaltz if you eat any of those things) Olive oil is better than rapeseed oil but may be less good than animal fats are.
Just try to do little things that make you feel successful - playing a video game, completing some little projects, marking things off your to do list - it doesn't have to be a massive effort, just little things really add up!
Reline
March 30th, 2019, 05:33 PM
I think dates are fine - it's the rare food that in and of itself sways strongly in a particular way.
Yes please use coconut oil instead of rapeseed oil (or butter/ghee/lard/schmaltz if you eat any of those things) Olive oil is better than rapeseed oil but may be less good than animal fats are.
Just try to do little things that make you feel successful - playing a video game, completing some little projects, marking things off your to do list - it doesn't have to be a massive effort, just little things really add up!
Thanks Atomic! I have a question about gaining weight. With my weight today I should gain 3-5 lbs but does it matter when I gain these pounds? Is it good to gain right now (im planing on ttc this fall) or just before ttc? What is best when it comes to Dh:s weight for blue sway? Is it good if he also gain weight or is it good if he is in good shape? Because I have noticed that many football players get boys and they are in good shape.
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Reline
March 31st, 2019, 02:14 AM
Thanks Atomic! I have a question about gaining weight. With my weight today I should gain 3-5 lbs but does it matter when I gain these pounds? Is it good to gain right now (im planing on ttc this fall) or just before ttc? What is best when it comes to Dh:s weight for blue sway? Is it good if he also gain weight or is it good if he is in good shape? Because I have noticed that many football players get boys and they are in good shape.
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With football i mean soccer, we call i t football in Europe.
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atomic sagebrush
April 1st, 2019, 04:29 PM
I would set out trying to hold steady on your weight. If a little weight comes on over time (and it will) then that's ok. I don't want you to quickly gain 5 lbs and then try to hold steady for another several months, that will be hard.
DH should stay where he is at, not gain or lose weight (unless he's overweight, in which case he can lose some, but not too much)
Reline
April 4th, 2019, 01:17 PM
I would set out trying to hold steady on your weight. If a little weight comes on over time (and it will) then that's ok. I don't want you to quickly gain 5 lbs and then try to hold steady for another several months, that will be hard.
DH should stay where he is at, not gain or lose weight (unless he's overweight, in which case he can lose some, but not too much)
Thank u Atomic! Many today have started to use collagen for skin care. Do you have any experience with collagen and do you know if it has any impact on swaying?
I have read that cereal are good for blue sway. I wonder what kind of cereal are good? Whole grains? Fibers? Wheat?
I have started drinking tea every day, how many cups are recommended for blue sway? Can I drink tea with milk? Or is it better to drink the tea without milk?
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atomic sagebrush
April 6th, 2019, 12:56 PM
I haven't had enough people using it when swaying to know for sure. I really very much doubt anything we use on our skin sways.
Any kind of cereal you like that is healthy. AVOID things like rice krispies, corn flakes, and sugar cereals as they are pure carbs and burn off very quickly. Whole grain cereals are good.
Anywhere from 1-4 cups a day. Some have even more than that but if you haven't had it in the past I'd still with a small amount.
Fine to have tea with milk! I always had it that way and got 4 boys drinking tea.
Reline
April 8th, 2019, 01:07 PM
I haven't had enough people using it when swaying to know for sure. I really very much doubt anything we use on our skin sways.
Any kind of cereal you like that is healthy. AVOID things like rice krispies, corn flakes, and sugar cereals as they are pure carbs and burn off very quickly. Whole grain cereals are good.
Anywhere from 1-4 cups a day. Some have even more than that but if you haven't had it in the past I'd still with a small amount.
Fine to have tea with milk! I always had it that way and got 4 boys drinking tea.
Thanks Atomic! I need to gain 3-5 lbs for boy sway. Is it ok if the weight gain consists of muscles? Because I have started to notice that I have started to gain muscle because I go to the gym 2-4 times a week and lift weights. Or should weight gain consist of eating much larger amounts of food? I also wonder if dried fruit is good for blue sway? And does granola count as cereal?
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atomic sagebrush
April 8th, 2019, 01:19 PM
Yes we WANT it to be at least partly, hopefully mostly muscle.
We eat more because we want the nutrients, not because we want to add fat. :agree: gaining weight in the form of muscle is ideal for blue.
Dried fruit is ok, but it's very very sugary. It's fine to eat sometimes but overall I think it is best to "spend" your calories on things that are really nutrient dense and are not just basically candy (dry fruit is so sweet, it is practically like eating candy!)
Granola is GREAT, especially when it has nuts!
Reline
April 9th, 2019, 03:37 PM
Yes we WANT it to be at least partly, hopefully mostly muscle.
We eat more because we want the nutrients, not because we want to add fat. :agree: gaining weight in the form of muscle is ideal for blue.
Dried fruit is ok, but it's very very sugary. It's fine to eat sometimes but overall I think it is best to "spend" your calories on things that are really nutrient dense and are not just basically candy (dry fruit is so sweet, it is practically like eating candy!)
Granola is GREAT, especially when it has nuts!
Thank u so much Atomic! Do you have any good advice on how to increase your appetite? I feel that sometimes I have to force myself to eat, especially when I'm tired. It scares me a bit because I'm afraid it might ruin my blue sway. Then I wonder how I in the best way can eat more salt?
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atomic sagebrush
April 10th, 2019, 01:22 PM
Don't worry about eating salt. The theory on salt never made any sense and we gave up on it and our results are higher than ever. Just eat to taste.
If you have a light appetite and can never eat as much as some other people, that is ok! The important thing is that you're eating more than you were! Don't compare yourself to other people, compare yourself to yourself!
Reline
April 13th, 2019, 02:19 PM
Don't worry about eating salt. The theory on salt never made any sense and we gave up on it and our results are higher than ever. Just eat to taste.
If you have a light appetite and can never eat as much as some other people, that is ok! The important thing is that you're eating more than you were! Don't compare yourself to other people, compare yourself to yourself!
Thank you Atomic. I have a question about folic acid. I read that you need to take 2000mcg folic acid per day for blue sway. According to the Swedish Medicines Agency, the recommendation is to take a maximum of 500 mcg per day. Isn't it dangerous with too much folic acid? I know that ur rekommendation her on GD is always safe so im just wondering. Another question is that my husband now takes medication for pollen allergy and will probably do so during the summer. Could it affect our blue sway if we want ttc in the fall? Thank you so much for your time Atomic !!
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atomic sagebrush
April 15th, 2019, 10:11 AM
I conceived a baby boy with a neural tube defect taking 800 mcg a day plus eating a super healthy diet that had lots of additional folic acid in it. Many, many sources (including a lot of prenatal vitamin manufacturers and gynecological organizations) recommend 1000 in addition to a diet that has FA/folate in it. Some of the things people use for sways such as green tea may block folic acid (and indeed, I was drinking a very small amount of green tea when I conceived my son with the NTD). Excess sodium, herbal supplements (which people take against my wishes very often) and the things like baking soda drink, Ural, Alka Seltzer some people insist on using also block and cause excess excretion of folic acid and folate.
I have the blue sway recommendation for FA/folate set at that level to protect against any neural tube defects even with the green tea, high sodium, herbs, and other things people may ingest over my wishes. Also in case of twins, which may need that higher level of folic acid. Boys may even need somewhat more to begin with, since they need more of all nutrients. It just seems like a good idea to me and my research indicates it is fully safe if you take it as directed and wean off at the end of the first trimester.
Most of us who have baby with NTD are told to take 4000-5000 mcg with subsequent pregnancies. It is not believed harmful for anyone without the MTHFR mutation to take folic acid in this amount, and it is fine for everyone to take folate in that amount (so if you are worried about it, just use folate, it can't harm you.) during the first trimester. You will just urinate out any excess. After that point taking extra FA may be harmful but we have you wean off at that point to the amount in a prenatal.
Reline
April 17th, 2019, 12:58 PM
I conceived a baby boy with a neural tube defect taking 800 mcg a day plus eating a super healthy diet that had lots of additional folic acid in it. Many, many sources (including a lot of prenatal vitamin manufacturers and gynecological organizations) recommend 1000 in addition to a diet that has FA/folate in it. Some of the things people use for sways such as green tea may block folic acid (and indeed, I was drinking a very small amount of green tea when I conceived my son with the NTD). Excess sodium, herbal supplements (which people take against my wishes very often) and the things like baking soda drink, Ural, Alka Seltzer some people insist on using also block and cause excess excretion of folic acid and folate.
I have the blue sway recommendation for FA/folate set at that level to protect against any neural tube defects even with the green tea, high sodium, herbs, and other things people may ingest over my wishes. Also in case of twins, which may need that higher level of folic acid. Boys may even need somewhat more to begin with, since they need more of all nutrients. It just seems like a good idea to me and my research indicates it is fully safe if you take it as directed and wean off at the end of the first trimester.
Most of us who have baby with NTD are told to take 4000-5000 mcg with subsequent pregnancies. It is not believed harmful for anyone without the MTHFR mutation to take folic acid in this amount, and it is fine for everyone to take folate in that amount (so if you are worried about it, just use folate, it can't harm you.) during the first trimester. You will just urinate out any excess. After that point taking extra FA may be harmful but we have you wean off at that point to the amount in a prenatal.
Thank you so much Atomic for this explanation. How much gelatin juice can you drink per day for blue sway? Can I use gelatin powder from the Great Lakes brand that is from beef and not pork? Regarding 9 servings of fruit, must it be fruit or can it be vegetables too?
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atomic sagebrush
April 17th, 2019, 01:36 PM
Yes the Great Lakes stuff is fantastic.
I wouldn't go overboard with the gelatin drink. 1-2 a day is plenty.
Yes it can be vegetables and we count juice, lemon water, coconut water as fruit/veg.
Reline
April 23rd, 2019, 01:10 PM
Yes the Great Lakes stuff is fantastic.
I wouldn't go overboard with the gelatin drink. 1-2 a day is plenty.
Yes it can be vegetables and we count juice, lemon water, coconut water as fruit/veg.
Thanks Atomic! I have a question about when DH is riding bike. Is the influence of biking long-lasting? If he bikes a few times now this summer and we ttc this fall, can the biking ruin our blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
April 23rd, 2019, 01:16 PM
No it would be fine by then!!!
Reline
April 28th, 2019, 02:25 PM
No it would be fine by then!!!
Thanks Atomic !! I have some questions about the personalized plan. How does it work? Will I answer some questions and then you make a plan for me? How long does it take before I get the plan? Will we have daily contact? Do I have to write you every day? When changes occur in my conditions, such as my weight, life situation, diet, exercise, will my plan be adjusted? I think I want to tcc sometime in October or November. I also wonder if there have been any results for the year 2018 on peoples sways?
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atomic sagebrush
April 29th, 2019, 01:07 PM
Yes the personalized plans are made just for you based on some questionnaires. It usually takes me about 7-10 days to do a plan but I actually just finished all my outstanding plans today and could get one done right away. We have as little or as much contact as you want. I will almost always answer you within 24 hours (which is not always or even usualy the case in the free forums) and often more than one time in a day if need be. But you do not need to message me daily! Just whenever you want on your end.
Then I am your coach and I work with you as we go to change things based on weight, life situation, etc.
We are at 71% success rate for boys in 2018.
Reline
May 12th, 2019, 06:03 AM
Yes the personalized plans are made just for you based on some questionnaires. It usually takes me about 7-10 days to do a plan but I actually just finished all my outstanding plans today and could get one done right away. We have as little or as much contact as you want. I will almost always answer you within 24 hours (which is not always or even usualy the case in the free forums) and often more than one time in a day if need be. But you do not need to message me daily! Just whenever you want on your end.
Then I am your coach and I work with you as we go to change things based on weight, life situation, etc.
We are at 71% success rate for boys in 2018.
Thank you Atomic. I wonder if DHs sleeping position has any meaning? I have realized that my husband always sleeps on the stomach or on the side so that the area around his genitals is often pressed and of course warm during the night. Do you think this can ruin my blue sway? I have tried to talk to him that he should try to sleep more on his back, but he is not so compliant.
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atomic sagebrush
May 13th, 2019, 10:10 AM
No I don't think that matters. People can't help the way they sleep and I think trying to make him do that will only disturb his sleep - which can sway pink. Let him rest in whatever position he feels comfortable, and if he's able to sleep nude or in baggy pants that's all you need to do.
Reline
May 14th, 2019, 03:27 PM
No I don't think that matters. People can't help the way they sleep and I think trying to make him do that will only disturb his sleep - which can sway pink. Let him rest in whatever position he feels comfortable, and if he's able to sleep nude or in baggy pants that's all you need to do.
Thank you Atomic. I stopped taking birth control pills in January and my period is getting more regular, but I am starting to lose a lot of blood during that time. Do I need to think more about what I eat when I have my period, bc I loose a lot of blood? Do I need to increase the intake of food / liquid when I have my period? I go to the gym when I have my period as well.
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atomic sagebrush
May 15th, 2019, 12:11 PM
It's probably the fish oil. Skip another day between doses.
Reline
May 23rd, 2019, 04:51 PM
It's probably the fish oil. Skip another day between doses.
Thank you Atomic. I have now been a member of GD for a while and I get so much hope when I read about swaying and about everyone who succeeds in getting their DG, but then I see so many examples in real life where mothers who do not follow any he diet at all or have muscles or is healthy or takes any vitamins and yet they get boy after boy. For me it is so clear that it is always the personality that decides. By judging the personality of a woman I can immediately know if she has a boy or a girl, for those with a little more dominant personality, who is social and outgoing always have boys. This makes me disappointed and makes me want to give up and it remove the joy and hope within me that I find here at GD. May I ask you Atomic and please forgive me if you find it a rude question, but what makes you believe so much in swaying, when there are so many exceptions? Thank u for ur time
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atomic sagebrush
May 24th, 2019, 01:04 PM
I promise it is not always the personality that decides. Personally, I see far more people for whom the physical stuff is true rather than the personality stuff. I'm not social or outgoing - if anything I've only become so because I started taking part in IG and Gender Dreaming - and I got my girl AFTER that.
There is also what the husband brings to the table, their frequency of intercourse, and sheer luck to consider. All these things play a part, as does their life history that you can't even see by looking at them.
I believe in swaying because firstly it makes sense that there would be some mechanism that could help select the gender of offspring that had the best shot to survive to pass down genes to future generations. Secondly, because both in studies and our results here, swaying seems to work. We have studies (good studies!) that show things like maternal diet, a woman's muscle mass, her BMI, smoking, jogging/biking for DH have different gender ratios. We have gotten the desired results for both pink and blue every year the site has existed and the odds of that happening if gender really was a coin flip are astronomical https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/59132-coin-flips-random-thoughts.html
Swaying is not 100% or close to it, but for those of us who have had 3,4,5 of the same gender already and know in our guts we are not going into conceiving with anything like a 50-50 chance, for me I would have happily taken the 50-50! Even if swaying could only get me to 50%, it was better than the 100% boys I'd had before, LOL. So you guys can't go into it expecting a guarantee, but it does help raise your chances or we'd not see the results we are seeing.
I'm not here to talk you into anything you don't want to do. If you don't believe in swaying, don't sway. But I believe in it and I'm happy to help anyone who wants my help, however I can. :)
Reline
May 26th, 2019, 03:27 PM
I promise it is not always the personality that decides. Personally, I see far more people for whom the physical stuff is true rather than the personality stuff. I'm not social or outgoing - if anything I've only become so because I started taking part in IG and Gender Dreaming - and I got my girl AFTER that.
There is also what the husband brings to the table, their frequency of intercourse, and sheer luck to consider. All these things play a part, as does their life history that you can't even see by looking at them.
I believe in swaying because firstly it makes sense that there would be some mechanism that could help select the gender of offspring that had the best shot to survive to pass down genes to future generations. Secondly, because both in studies and our results here, swaying seems to work. We have studies (good studies!) that show things like maternal diet, a woman's muscle mass, her BMI, smoking, jogging/biking for DH have different gender ratios. We have gotten the desired results for both pink and blue every year the site has existed and the odds of that happening if gender really was a coin flip are astronomical https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/59132-coin-flips-random-thoughts.html
Swaying is not 100% or close to it, but for those of us who have had 3,4,5 of the same gender already and know in our guts we are not going into conceiving with anything like a 50-50 chance, for me I would have happily taken the 50-50! Even if swaying could only get me to 50%, it was better than the 100% boys I'd had before, LOL. So you guys can't go into it expecting a guarantee, but it does help raise your chances or we'd not see the results we are seeing.
I'm not here to talk you into anything you don't want to do. If you don't believe in swaying, don't sway. But I believe in it and I'm happy to help anyone who wants my help, however I can. :)
Thank you so much Atomic! I understand that O-day is usually the day after a postive opk test. But when I do the opk test I get two days in a row that are positive, is the O-day the day after two days with positive opk tests? Do you get smiley face on O-day?
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atomic sagebrush
May 26th, 2019, 07:37 PM
Well, it's an average of 36 hours which is actually the SECOND day after the positive OPK.
You count time to O from the FIRST positive. So you will ovulate somewhere 12-48 hours after that first positive, and most will O about 1 1/2 days after the first.
Yes you can get a smiley face on O Day BUT whether or not the test goes negative does not tell you if you have ovulated or not. The positive OPK is just a signal your body sends to itself saying "hey, ovulate sometime soon" and then it decides when to do that based on several variables. So you can have a test go negative and not have ovulated yet, and you can also have a test that stays positive for days after O has occurred. The OPK only test for the signal hormone. They can't tell us if the egg was released or not, or when that happened.
Reline
June 2nd, 2019, 03:10 PM
Well, it's an average of 36 hours which is actually the SECOND day after the positive OPK.
You count time to O from the FIRST positive. So you will ovulate somewhere 12-48 hours after that first positive, and most will O about 1 1/2 days after the first.
Yes you can get a smiley face on O Day BUT whether or not the test goes negative does not tell you if you have ovulated or not. The positive OPK is just a signal your body sends to itself saying "hey, ovulate sometime soon" and then it decides when to do that based on several variables. So you can have a test go negative and not have ovulated yet, and you can also have a test that stays positive for days after O has occurred. The OPK only test for the signal hormone. They can't tell us if the egg was released or not, or when that happened.
Thank you Atomic. I have some thoughts again; 1. I understand that stress can sway pink and that it can be good to relax before tcc blue, but I work full time and have a girl and she is almost three years, so my life is quite stressful. Do you think it can affect my blue sway?
2. When it comes to weight, is it the weight gain itself that is good for blue sway or is it enough that I weigh between 3-5 lbs more than I weighed when I got my daughter? I mean, is it better to increase weight just before I ttc or is it just as good to have increased 3-5 lbs a few months before ttc and then keep that weight until ttc?
3. I started lifting weights about 7 months ago and I have noticed that I have got muscles, I increased the weights successively and today I lift 7-8 kg, can it be too much? or is it okay? How much cardio is needed? I usually walk 1km at a fast pace before I start lifting weights. Is it enough? I weigh about 126 lbs and have increased 2 lbs since I started training. Thanks for your time atomic!
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atomic sagebrush
June 3rd, 2019, 02:29 PM
No I don't think it can affect your sway. Everyone has stress (and I constantly get questions from PINK swayers tellling me how they are sure all their stress will ruin their sway!) Please don't stress about stress, everyday stress is not the kind of stress that sways.
We don't know if the timing of weight gain matters. Just gain a little weight preferably in the form of muscle if you can, whenever it happens. Trying to time it only adds stress to the equation anyway.
There is no such thing as too much in the weight department. That's great!!
126 is still fairly thin, I'd keep cardio to 30 min. a day 3x a week unless you see big gains.
Reline
June 3rd, 2019, 04:00 PM
No I don't think it can affect your sway. Everyone has stress (and I constantly get questions from PINK swayers tellling me how they are sure all their stress will ruin their sway!) Please don't stress about stress, everyday stress is not the kind of stress that sways.
We don't know if the timing of weight gain matters. Just gain a little weight preferably in the form of muscle if you can, whenever it happens. Trying to time it only adds stress to the equation anyway.
There is no such thing as too much in the weight department. That's great!!
126 is still fairly thin, I'd keep cardio to 30 min. a day 3x a week unless you see big gains.
Thank u Atomic, is it important to do cardio for blue sway? is it at least 30 minutes or can you do less? how is cardio defined? Is it enough to go at high speed or do you have to do more? Can you tell me about good forum for different boysway as well as tips on food or various meals one can eat for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
June 4th, 2019, 12:57 PM
If you are worried about excess weight gain, cardio helps prevent that. If you won't gain weight even on HE Diet then it's not important, just do the weights.
No it doesn't need to be 30 full minutes, can be less. It must not be more than 45 min of exercise consecutively.
Yes anything that gets your heart beating for 15-30 minutes.
Lots of meal ideas here! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/1397-recipes-meal-suggestions-ttc-blue.html
Reline
June 9th, 2019, 10:12 AM
If you are worried about excess weight gain, cardio helps prevent that. If you won't gain weight even on HE Diet then it's not important, just do the weights.
No it doesn't need to be 30 full minutes, can be less. It must not be more than 45 min of exercise consecutively.
Yes anything that gets your heart beating for 15-30 minutes.
Lots of meal ideas here! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/1397-recipes-meal-suggestions-ttc-blue.html
Thanks Atomic, I wonder if Preseed is good for blue sway? on some forums it says that it is good at others not. I read that you never used it. The problem is that we can't bd without any kind of lubricant, we have to use something, sorry for tmi, but is it ok if we use pressed for blue sway or are there other options?
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atomic sagebrush
June 10th, 2019, 01:08 PM
Anything marked sperm safe, conception friendly is fine.
Whoever is saying Preseed isn't good for blue is incorrect. We use it for most of our blue sways, many blue swayers such as yourself do need some lube and have very little EWCM even at ovulation.
Reline
June 23rd, 2019, 06:54 AM
Anything marked sperm safe, conception friendly is fine.
Whoever is saying Preseed isn't good for blue is incorrect. We use it for most of our blue sways, many blue swayers such as yourself do need some lube and have very little EWCM even at ovulation.
Thank you Atomic. I think the hardest thing about swaying is what food to eat and I need recipes that can help me plan my everyday life. The forum that you advised me in the previous post contains old information and most of the recipes are very American. I live in Sweden and I do not eat pork so many of the recipes I find difficult to follow. I have read that you can buy 21 days plan meals, I wonder if it is an online book that you download or is it a book that you send by postorder? Do the recipes and recommendations still work in the book or have some become old? Does it contain mostly American recipes and ingredients? Thank you for your reply Atomic!
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atomic sagebrush
June 26th, 2019, 11:04 AM
The thing is, I'm American, and so most of my recipes are American. I would not want to take your money for something that would not work for you!
Very little about the blue diet has changed in 10 years. Only the pink diet has evolved over time. The HE Diet is really just the same with the exception of limiting the milk replacers, flaxseed, and wheatgrass juice, and trying to get more animal fat than vegetable.
There's really nothing wrong with any older recipes in that thread as long as you keep those things in mind.
It's an online book.
Please feel free to describe what it is that you're struggling with? I am happy to help you in this thread.
Reline
June 30th, 2019, 03:23 PM
The thing is, I'm American, and so most of my recipes are American. I would not want to take your money for something that would not work for you!
Very little about the blue diet has changed in 10 years. Only the pink diet has evolved over time. The HE Diet is really just the same with the exception of limiting the milk replacers, flaxseed, and wheatgrass juice, and trying to get more animal fat than vegetable.
There's really nothing wrong with any older recipes in that thread as long as you keep those things in mind.
It's an online book.
Please feel free to describe what it is that you're struggling with? I am happy to help you in this thread.
Thank you for your patience, Atomic. I am a person who works best when I have a routine or a schedule to follow. In order to succeed in swaying blue I must have some sort of food schedule to follow or I will be stressed. I think that if I manage to plan exactly what food I can eat during the weeks I can buy the ingredients and then I will not be stressed. If I do not plan the food, I will not be able to follow the diet and then I will be stressed and i feel that i would ruin my sway. I would need to have a food schedule for each day for a few weeks, so I know what I can eat for breakfast, snack, lunch, supper. I am willing to pay for such a schedule if you can help me. I work 8 hours a day and have a child to take care of and I have to work out so I do not have much time in the days, therefore a food schedule would help me, because a blue diet is not natural to me, if I do not plan it my diet becomes very pinkfriendly.
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atomic sagebrush
July 3rd, 2019, 11:50 AM
I understand, so what I would do in your situation is think about your diet. What are the things that you like to eat that have protein and carbs in them? (and hopefully some good fats and fruit and veg as well.) Breakfast, lunch, dinner? Write them down and see how many there are. Do you have a week of meals right there (most likely will) and then I would plan around that. Then in between meals, select some snacks that you like that have protein and/or healthy fats and small amounts of carbs in them.
I don't think I could do a good job planning meals for someone who isn't in America. I also think that not wanting to plan things for oneself is something I see a lot in people who are swaying blue, and it very well may be beneficial for your sway for you to do this yourself! :)
Reline
July 23rd, 2019, 08:17 AM
I understand, so what I would do in your situation is think about your diet. What are the things that you like to eat that have protein and carbs in them? (and hopefully some good fats and fruit and veg as well.) Breakfast, lunch, dinner? Write them down and see how many there are. Do you have a week of meals right there (most likely will) and then I would plan around that. Then in between meals, select some snacks that you like that have protein and/or healthy fats and small amounts of carbs in them.
I don't think I could do a good job planning meals for someone who isn't in America. I also think that not wanting to plan things for oneself is something I see a lot in people who are swaying blue, and it very well may be beneficial for your sway for you to do this yourself! :)
Thank u Atomic. I wonder if DH needs to take zinc? Do DW need Iron Tablets? What amount of calcium should I take? Have you ever heard dentists get more girls?
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atomic sagebrush
July 24th, 2019, 05:51 PM
If you guys are taking multivitamins they should have enough zinc and iron.
Is there calcium in the multi?
Yes we have heard that dentists have more girls! But we've had dentists come on here and sway successfully too.
Reline
July 25th, 2019, 03:26 AM
If you guys are taking multivitamins they should have enough zinc and iron.
Is there calcium in the multi?
Yes we have heard that dentists have more girls! But we've had dentists come on here and sway successfully too.
Thank you Atomic. My multivitamin contains 120mg of calcium and I take another vitamin containing 600mg of calcium and 300mg of magnesium. My multivitamin contains 7.5 mg of iron.
Do you know what it is that makes dentists have more daughters? Is it the way they sit or is it a particular substance they use that affects them? Are there any statistics on the amount of dentists with daughters? Are there statistics on how many dentists have succeeded with their sway? My DH is a dentist and it feels hard to have even more things that will ruin my sway. Is there anything we can do? If he is off work a few days before tcc would that help? Or does it have a longer lasting impact?
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atomic sagebrush
July 25th, 2019, 07:06 PM
We don't know for sure; the idea is that it may be the chemicals they're exposed to.
I can't answer any of those questions. I can't keep stats that are that specific. The study I read that found dentists had more daughters was simply a slight variation off the gender ratio - barely any difference at all. It was still about 50-50.
I suspect that it's an ongoing thing and not something a couple days can make different.
Reline
July 26th, 2019, 03:21 AM
We don't know for sure; the idea is that it may be the chemicals they're exposed to.
I can't answer any of those questions. I can't keep stats that are that specific. The study I read that found dentists had more daughters was simply a slight variation off the gender ratio - barely any difference at all. It was still about 50-50.
I suspect that it's an ongoing thing and not something a couple days can make different.
Thank u Atomic. And do u think my calcium intake that i wrote about in previous post is ok? Or do u think i should drop anything? Than u for ur time.
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atomic sagebrush
July 26th, 2019, 03:35 PM
Do you need it for any reason?? While that's about as much as I took when I got my 3rd and 4th boy, I know most blue swayers would be nervous about taking that much. It's fine with me as long as you're taking Vitamin D with it! But if you're nervous about it it is fine to wean off it as well.
Reline
July 26th, 2019, 05:12 PM
Do you need it for any reason?? While that's about as much as I took when I got my 3rd and 4th boy, I know most blue swayers would be nervous about taking that much. It's fine with me as long as you're taking Vitamin D with it! But if you're nervous about it it is fine to wean off it as well.
Thanks Atomic. I didn't get the recommendation from a doctor but I started taking it because I started taking magnesium and I read that the body needs calcium to absorb magnesium. Do u think i should only take the magnesium and reduce the dose of calcium?
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atomic sagebrush
July 27th, 2019, 02:26 PM
Are you worried about calcium possibly swaying pink??
Please try to keep in mind that much of this stuff I do not know. I personally (and the best science supports) believe that calcium is either neutral or sways blue, but some believe it sways pink. It's your sway, so please follow your gut instinct and do what you think is best.
Reline
July 29th, 2019, 02:55 PM
Are you worried about calcium possibly swaying pink??
Please try to keep in mind that much of this stuff I do not know. I personally (and the best science supports) believe that calcium is either neutral or sways blue, but some believe it sways pink. It's your sway, so please follow your gut instinct and do what you think is best.
Thanks Atomic. I read the 5 day sample menu published by nuthingbutpink in 2012, but I noticed that the menus contain a lot of sugar and sometimes the meals contain alcohol. Can you still follow those menus? I also wonder why lemon is considered boyfriendly? Doesn’t it lower blood pressure? Are potassium drinks as good as gelatin drinks? the menus also contain 40.5 g of protein. But for blue sway is more protein recommended per day now? Right?
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atomic sagebrush
July 30th, 2019, 01:45 PM
Can you link me to what you're talking about specifically? I want to be sure we're looking at the same thing. It sounds to me like you're looking at the girl diet or else maybe someone posted the wrong thing.
Blood pressure being high or low has nothing to do with swaying.
Lemon has been said to be "alkalinizing". I don't even believe in the acid/alkaline diets for swaying but a little lemon water doesn't hurt anything and it keeps people from drinking more harmful things.
The recommendation for blue sways is (and always has been) 90+ grams. I would love a link to what you're looking at.
Potassium and gelatin drinks do two different things and are not interchangeable.
Reline
July 30th, 2019, 02:12 PM
Can you link me to what you're talking about specifically? I want to be sure we're looking at the same thing. It sounds to me like you're looking at the girl diet or else maybe someone posted the wrong thing.
Blood pressure being high or low has nothing to do with swaying.
Lemon has been said to be "alkalinizing". I don't even believe in the acid/alkaline diets for swaying but a little lemon water doesn't hurt anything and it keeps people from drinking more harmful things.
The recommendation for blue sways is (and always has been) 90+ grams. I would love a link to what you're looking at.
Potassium and gelatin drinks do two different things and are not interchangeable.
This is the name of the thread: TTC Blue 5-day Menu Plan for HE diet.
This is the link: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-blue-he-5-day-sample-menu/52978-ttc-blue-5-day-menu-plan-he-diet.html.
If you click on the pdf-file in that post you will find the menu that i read. Thank u for your help.
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atomic sagebrush
July 30th, 2019, 03:40 PM
No, that is correct and is the blue menu. Blue swayers can have sugar. That has never been forbidden for blue. Small amounts of alcohol like dark beer and red wine have always been allowed. Sugar and small amounts of alcohol are ok on the blue diet and always have been"
The "day's total 40 g protein" that was listed in one place in there is a typo. That was meant to go in the pink plan, not the blue one (I honestly do not even know how it got in there!) I didn't even include the protein tally in the blue diet book. Literally every meal in there has 30 g protein or more.
That is a good menu plan, is still 100% accurate, and I'll contact someone to take the typo out. Thanks for calling it to my attention.
Reline
August 5th, 2019, 03:42 PM
No, that is correct and is the blue menu. Blue swayers can have sugar. That has never been forbidden for blue. Small amounts of alcohol like dark beer and red wine have always been allowed. Sugar and small amounts of alcohol are ok on the blue diet and always have been"
The "day's total 40 g protein" that was listed in one place in there is a typo. That was meant to go in the pink plan, not the blue one (I honestly do not even know how it got in there!) I didn't even include the protein tally in the blue diet book. Literally every meal in there has 30 g protein or more.
That is a good menu plan, is still 100% accurate, and I'll contact someone to take the typo out. Thanks for calling it to my attention.
Thanks Atomic. Does the 21 days meals contain snacks or recipes only? Are there more examples like 5 day sample menu? I like the concept that you get examples of what you can eat for a whole day.
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atomic sagebrush
August 6th, 2019, 12:01 PM
It's got meal suggestions, snack suggestions,and some recipes.
It is somewhat "American" foods though! Just so you know.
Reline
August 12th, 2019, 03:01 PM
It's got meal suggestions, snack suggestions,and some recipes.
It is somewhat "American" foods though! Just so you know.
Thank u Atomic, I will think about it. Were can I read about peoples boy sway? Both the ones that have succed and the ones that have failed? Is there a forum? Or a link?
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atomic sagebrush
August 13th, 2019, 10:34 AM
Yes there's a forum, here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/
Reline
August 15th, 2019, 03:11 PM
Yes there's a forum, here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/
Thanks so much for the link Atomic! Just what I was looking for! I wonder about to have unprotected intercourse out of the fertile windows because it's good for the woman to get exposed to the semen, but does it affect if you use Preseed? Does Preseed destroy the effect? When it says it's bluefriendly that DH release every 2-4 days, does that mean every other day? or every third day or every fourth day?
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atomic sagebrush
August 17th, 2019, 12:17 PM
We don't have enough information to know for absolute sure but there is no evidence that it does. The hormones should not be affected by any ingredient in Preseed.
It doesn't have to be that exact a schedule is what I"m saying. Sometimes every other day, sometimes every 3 or 4, it's all good however it works out. Putting men on a tight schedule for release sometimes messes with their heads so I think it's best to keep it loose on the schedule.
Reline
August 18th, 2019, 11:32 AM
We don't have enough information to know for absolute sure but there is no evidence that it does. The hormones should not be affected by any ingredient in Preseed.
It doesn't have to be that exact a schedule is what I"m saying. Sometimes every other day, sometimes every 3 or 4, it's all good however it works out. Putting men on a tight schedule for release sometimes messes with their heads so I think it's best to keep it loose on the schedule.
Thanks Atomic. Do you have to eat red meat every day for blue sway? If you do not eat red meat for one day, what is good replacement? Are burgers from mcdonald or other fast food good? I also wonder how I will manage to eat and drink everything in one day? 9 servings of fruit, tea, coconut water, regular water, vegetables, juices, snacks and meals? I don't know how to have time for all that? LOL[emoji23]
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atomic sagebrush
August 20th, 2019, 11:33 AM
No you don't. You can have any meat at all instead.
Burgers are ok but are very calorie dense. They are NOT great for swaying blue (real unprocessed foods are good for that.) The only reason why Ingender says they sway blue is because Ingender still believes the debunked idea that salt sways blue and fast food has lots of salt. It's fine to have them when you want to, but don't make them a mandatory part of your sway.
The amounts of food are just a goal to aim for. It's fine if you can't get up that high most or even any of the times. Those of us with all boys did not ever eat all that stuff in one day. Just do your best, the important thing is that you're eating more/differetly than you were when you got your girls, and most important of all, than you were recently. You just want your body to "notice" that you have more nutrients coming in.
Reline
August 20th, 2019, 02:15 PM
No you don't. You can have any meat at all instead.
Burgers are ok but are very calorie dense. They are NOT great for swaying blue (real unprocessed foods are good for that.) The only reason why Ingender says they sway blue is because Ingender still believes the debunked idea that salt sways blue and fast food has lots of salt. It's fine to have them when you want to, but don't make them a mandatory part of your sway.
The amounts of food are just a goal to aim for. It's fine if you can't get up that high most or even any of the times. Those of us with all boys did not ever eat all that stuff in one day. Just do your best, the important thing is that you're eating more/differetly than you were when you got your girls, and most important of all, than you were recently. You just want your body to "notice" that you have more nutrients coming in.
Thanks Atomic. I have noticed that women who have many sisters often get boys and that the oldest sister in a family of many daughters often have boys. Is this something you've noticed? Can swaying help even in such cases? I also wonder if the month you ttc is of great importance? I'm thinking of starting my sway in October and ttc in December and if it doesn't work I will ttc again in January etc. Do you think it is a bad idea to ttc in the winter for blue? I live in Sweden.
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atomic sagebrush
August 22nd, 2019, 12:01 PM
Yes, I have noticed that, and I don't know why it is (one of those things I'd love to study). But as an oldest girl with many boys myself I promise that yes, swaying can help!
It's not a bad idea per se but some evidence seems to indicate that more girls may be conceived especially in the early spring months (March-May). It's only a small % and I got two of my boys in those months!!
Reline
August 24th, 2019, 11:08 AM
Yes, I have noticed that, and I don't know why it is (one of those things I'd love to study). But as an oldest girl with many boys myself I promise that yes, swaying can help!
It's not a bad idea per se but some evidence seems to indicate that more girls may be conceived especially in the early spring months (March-May). It's only a small % and I got two of my boys in those months!!
Thanks Atomic. I wonder if Acidophilus and probiotic are having the same effect for blue sway. Do I have to use both or is it enough with one and if so which one is best? Is it better to take probiotic in liquid or tablet form? I live in Sweden and I have found two brands of Probiotic. Which of them do you think works best? Here is the content of the first brand:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190824/3e0ecf3c5e3a54f2661f805a3db336eb.jpg
Here is the other one: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190824/d9c565a7e7f60ad8d1ad64fc7cff1adb.jpg
Thank u for ur time
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atomic sagebrush
August 25th, 2019, 03:19 PM
Acidophilus is a probiotic so they're basically the same, but I'd take the one wihtout the papaya and betaine in it.
Reline
August 26th, 2019, 01:07 PM
Acidophilus is a probiotic so they're basically the same, but I'd take the one wihtout the papaya and betaine in it.
Thank u so much Atomic! I wonder if it is very important for DH to take guaifensin? I will take it when we are going to ttc but he does not know about my sway, so can it affect my sway if only I use it? There are not many brands here of guaifensin, but I have found a brand in tablet form. Would you please look if it is good and if I can take it? How many tablets should I take when I approach ovulation?
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atomic sagebrush
August 26th, 2019, 01:13 PM
No it's not important at all and in fact most men don't take it.
Yes that's the right stuff. You can take up to 1200 per day, but I'd prob try more like 400-800.
Reline
August 27th, 2019, 02:44 PM
No it's not important at all and in fact most men don't take it.
Yes that's the right stuff. You can take up to 1200 per day, but I'd prob try more like 400-800.
Thanks Atomic! I know I've already asked you about the vitamins but I feel I need to have a clearer composition so please Atomic be patient with me! Right now I take: 1 tablet multivitamin, 1 vitamin D tablet 10 µg, 1000 µg folic acid, 500mg fish oil. I take these in the morning.
In the evening I take magnesium 250 mg. Here are my questions:
1. I will start taking probiotic, how far before ttc should I take it? I want ttc in December. The probiotic that I will be taking contains 48 mg of vitamin c. Is it ok?
2. Is the amount of vitamin D I take enough? I read somewhere that you recommended 1000 µg of vitamin D for blue sway. Could it be right? I live in Sweden, so here we will not see the sun much at all in the months leading up to December.
3. I have so far taken calcium containing 300 mg. My multivitamin contains 120mg of calcium. I know calcium is good for blue sway and with vitamin d but do you think I should reduce the amount? I will eat and drink a lot of dairy products during my sway too. What would you have done if you had swayed blue?
Im also gonna take guaifensin during ovulation and I will increase folic acid to 1700 µg. Finally, do you have the opportunity to take a look at what my multivitamin contains and if it contains anything that can sway pink?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/794b27af4ca9de7b45f15cd6c47f5d88.jpg
Thank u very very much Atomic and am sorry if its to many questions!
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atomic sagebrush
August 27th, 2019, 03:31 PM
1)Probiotic as far in advance as possible.
2)Yes I recommend up to 1000 IU of Vit. D.
3)I got my last two boys taking tons of calcium and also drinking tons of dairy. I think you're getting enough so I wouldn't take any more than you're already taking but if you're ok with taking it, I definitely got 2 boys taking that amount.
4)Those vitamins are fine!!!
Reline
August 28th, 2019, 07:21 AM
1)Probiotic as far in advance as possible.
2)Yes I recommend up to 1000 IU of Vit. D.
3)I got my last two boys taking tons of calcium and also drinking tons of dairy. I think you're getting enough so I wouldn't take any more than you're already taking but if you're ok with taking it, I definitely got 2 boys taking that amount.
4)Those vitamins are fine!!!
Big thanks Atomic! I have some more questions:
1. I forgot to mention that I take a tablet of Vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin) 1 mg half an hour before breakfast. Is it OK?
2. How much probiotic should I take?
3. I've probably mixed the units μg and IU together. I thought you meant 1000 µg of Vitamin D, but then 1000 IU will be about 25 µg? Is it ok for the body to get so much vitamin D through supplements?
4. My last question concerns DH multivitamin. It contains 3 mg of ginseng and 375 mg of guarana. Can this sway pink ?! Here is the entire table of contents for his multivitamin. Would you please take a look at it? Thank u! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190828/c001faad91f5155fd9cbf1582026503d.jpg
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atomic sagebrush
August 28th, 2019, 01:45 PM
How much B12?
Whatever the dose is of the probiotic on the bottle.
Oh sorry I should have caught that yesterday, I wasn't feeling very well. Yes the Vitamin D is measured in IU not ug. I did extensive research into all these nutrient recommendations and I believe the Vit. D is fine at 1000 IU.
I do not want your husband to take ginseng or guarana. We don't know how either of them sway and ginseng may inhibit cell division (this may be a reason why it could possibly help to prevent or slow down cancer) Since sperm is made of rapidly dividing cells, I think it's best to stay away from it.
Reline
August 28th, 2019, 02:45 PM
How much B12?
Whatever the dose is of the probiotic on the bottle.
Oh sorry I should have caught that yesterday, I wasn't feeling very well. Yes the Vitamin D is measured in IU not ug. I did extensive research into all these nutrient recommendations and I believe the Vit. D is fine at 1000 IU.
I do not want your husband to take ginseng or guarana. We don't know how either of them sway and ginseng may inhibit cell division (this may be a reason why it could possibly help to prevent or slow down cancer) Since sperm is made of rapidly dividing cells, I think it's best to stay away from it.
I take a B12 tablet containing 1 mg (milligrams). This is not a recipe I have been given by any doctor but I chose to start taking it myself, because I was told that it helped against fatigue and hair loss. So I can definitely stop taking it if it's not good against blue sway.
Ok I will try to get my husband to change multivitamin. Do you want to take a look at the table of contents for this multivitamin, it does not contain ginseng or guaranahttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190828/7dbf8b37dad985b06a795bb47617079e.jpg
Thank u!
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atomic sagebrush
August 29th, 2019, 01:21 PM
I prefer that you guys stick to the recommended daily allowance which is only 2.6 micrograms (I am hoping you are taking 1000 MICROgrams not milligrams.) Please wean off that gradually - DO NOT just suddenly stop taking it, please wean off over a month or so by gradually spacing doses further and further out. There are risks and side effects (some known, and some we don't know are also possible, of course) from taking high doses of nutrients and I do not ever recommend that.
Those are fine vitamins for your husband to take. :)
Reline
August 29th, 2019, 03:36 PM
I prefer that you guys stick to the recommended daily allowance which is only 2.6 micrograms (I am hoping you are taking 1000 MICROgrams not milligrams.) Please wean off that gradually - DO NOT just suddenly stop taking it, please wean off over a month or so by gradually spacing doses further and further out. There are risks and side effects (some known, and some we don't know are also possible, of course) from taking high doses of nutrients and I do not ever recommend that.
Those are fine vitamins for your husband to take. :)
Oh my goodness Atomic !! Im glad that I asked you about B12, I realize now that I take way too much, so I have taken a lot more than recommended intake! I have taken 1 milligrams which is equivalent to 1000 micrograms. Is it dangerous? I've been taking it for 8 months now. Can it affect my sway? I have thought about ttc in December. How do I wean off that? The tablet is very small, should I split it up? Or should I take every other day? I also wonder how much magnesium do you recommend for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
August 29th, 2019, 04:46 PM
I'm glad too. They should not even sell those high doses IMO. While you can't "overdose" on it - luckily you excrete a lot and it's hard for your body to absorb much via supplements - it has been linked to making cancer grow much faster and women with high levels of folic acid and B12 in their bodies had a higher chance of a baby with autism. Plus, so many of these things are said to be fine and safe, only to find out years later they were harmful all along, so I personally just prefer that you guys stick with a reasonable dose in the ballpark of what your body uses normally.
Just start spacing the doses out more. Instead of taking it every day, take it every other day, then stretch that out further and further. Plenty of time to be off it by December.
I prefer you guys take no more than 200-250 mg magnesium. You can take more than that - such as, I know some take it for sleeping - but it causes diarrhea and then you're just losing nutrients (and electrolytes, which can be harmful, in addition to being unpleasant) Then you'll also be getting some from foods and stuff.
Reline
August 31st, 2019, 03:37 PM
I'm glad too. They should not even sell those high doses IMO. While you can't "overdose" on it - luckily you excrete a lot and it's hard for your body to absorb much via supplements - it has been linked to making cancer grow much faster and women with high levels of folic acid and B12 in their bodies had a higher chance of a baby with autism. Plus, so many of these things are said to be fine and safe, only to find out years later they were harmful all along, so I personally just prefer that you guys stick with a reasonable dose in the ballpark of what your body uses normally.
Just start spacing the doses out more. Instead of taking it every day, take it every other day, then stretch that out further and further. Plenty of time to be off it by December.
I prefer you guys take no more than 200-250 mg magnesium. You can take more than that - such as, I know some take it for sleeping - but it causes diarrhea and then you're just losing nutrients (and electrolytes, which can be harmful, in addition to being unpleasant) Then you'll also be getting some from foods and stuff.
Thank you so much for your help Atomic !! I promise this is my last question about vitamins: Is it okay for me to start taking two tablets of my multivitamin? Because it fits well with my vitamin D and my folic acid. If I do so Then I will take exactly 25 µg of vitamin D and 1900 µg of folic acid. I will also take 241 mg of magnesium. What I'm still not sure about is calcium. If I take two tablets of my multivitamin, I will get 240 mg of calcium. Is it enough? Or should I continue to take extra calcium? Here's a picture again of my multivitamin, is it ok if I take two tablets? The picture below shows the amount I get from a tablet. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190831/d055c746335557c92a926ab2bb38310a.jpg
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atomic sagebrush
September 3rd, 2019, 12:38 PM
Because that multivitamin has low doses of everything it is ok to take two. Please note, anyone else reading this, it is generally NOT a good idea to take two multivitamins. You don't want to get any more than 100% of anything other than Vit. D and folic acid. Reline's vitamin has low doses so it's ok to take two, but most it isn't.
You'll also be getting some calcium via diet. I would just roll with what is in there and not take more.
Reline
September 3rd, 2019, 01:20 PM
Because that multivitamin has low doses of everything it is ok to take two. Please note, anyone else reading this, it is generally NOT a good idea to take two multivitamins. You don't want to get any more than 100% of anything other than Vit. D and folic acid. Reline's vitamin has low doses so it's ok to take two, but most it isn't.
You'll also be getting some calcium via diet. I would just roll with what is in there and not take more.
Thanks so much Atomic !! I have some questions again;
1. When I have period pain I usually take a pain tablet (ibuprofen), can it affect my blue sway?
2. Now when I start taking two tablets of my
multivitamin I will get 120mg of vitamin C and my priobiotic contains 96mg of vitamin C. Is it ok for blue sway? Or too much?
3. As I mentioned before, my DH is a dentist and it is known that there are theories that they have more daughters. Is there anything he can do to increase the chances of having a boy? (In addition to sway stuff like diet, exercise, supplement and bd-pattern) Is there anything we should be thinking of?
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atomic sagebrush
September 4th, 2019, 01:03 PM
Occasional use of painkillers is fine. Painkillers may sway slightly pink but the occasional use of anything is fine.
Yes that's fine. I truly do not think Vitamin C sways pink (in fact, I think normal intake sways blue) but the pH people say otherwise.
I would be sure your husband isn't wearing tight fitting underwear, isn't jogging/biking, and if he has to sit for long periods he should get up and walk around every hour or so.
Reline
September 5th, 2019, 01:25 PM
Occasional use of painkillers is fine. Painkillers may sway slightly pink but the occasional use of anything is fine.
Yes that's fine. I truly do not think Vitamin C sways pink (in fact, I think normal intake sways blue) but the pH people say otherwise.
I would be sure your husband isn't wearing tight fitting underwear, isn't jogging/biking, and if he has to sit for long periods he should get up and walk around every hour or so.
Thanks Atomic! Do I need to take my supplements at certain times of the day? I usually take all my supplements in the morning after eating breakfast. The only thing I take in the evening is magnesium. So after breakfast I take multivitamin, vitamin D, fish oil, folic acid and probiotic. I mostly think if certain supplements can affect the effect of other supplements?
Another question I have is if you know if blood donation can affect blue sway? DH has started donating blood a few times a year and after doing so he usually takes iron tablets.
Thank u for ur time!!
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atomic sagebrush
September 6th, 2019, 02:04 PM
I do like you guys to take small doses of folic acid throughout the day if at all possible. If not, it's fine, but I have read it's better used by the body to take some in the morning, some at lunch, and some at dinner.
If DH wants to donate blood a few times a year that's fine. Men are a lot less susceptible to anemia than women are. If he takes a little iron now and then to make up for it, even better.
Reline
September 16th, 2019, 11:21 AM
I do like you guys to take small doses of folic acid throughout the day if at all possible. If not, it's fine, but I have read it's better used by the body to take some in the morning, some at lunch, and some at dinner.
If DH wants to donate blood a few times a year that's fine. Men are a lot less susceptible to anemia than women are. If he takes a little iron now and then to make up for it, even better.
Thanks Atomic! Now I have some thoughts again: 1. Do you notice any difference in the body when taking probiotic? I have taken it soon for a month but I do not notice any difference.
2. Do you think I should drink gelatin juice throughout the cycle or just around ovulation?
3. How important is it that I reach up to about 90 g of protein in one day? It feels like no matter how much I try, I have a hard time reaching up to that amount. For example, if I start the day with two toasts with two boiled eggs and a glass of freshly squeezed juice at. 7.00, first snack at. 9.30 I eat oatmeal with yogurt, nuts and berries with a cup of black tea, at. 11.30 am I eat an apple with some nuts, at 12.30 I have lunch with either meat, chicken or fish, some vegetables and either rice, potatoes, bulgur, or pasta, at. 2.30 pm I eat a fruit with some nuts, at. At 4:30 pm I either eat cheese and nuts or toast with peanut butter, at. At 18.00 I have dinner with meat, chicken or fish, vegetables, and either rice, bulgur or pasta, at. 7.30 pm I eat some fruit and cheese or nuts, at. At 9pm I eat a bowl of granola without sugar with yogurt and nuts. How much protein do you think I achieve after such a day? I will also try to drink regular water and coconut water. Thanks so much for your time !!
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atomic sagebrush
September 16th, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sometimes it makes people have diarrhea when they first start it, but other than that, probiotic should have no effect.
I really doubt the gelatin juice does a whole lot and I got 4 boys without it. It's up to you - it did not seem to be associated with possibly more opposites (the milk replacers and wheatgrass supplements DID seem associated with more opposites)
As long as you're eating more protein than you were when you got your girls, but most of all than you were recently, it's all good. The important thing is to send your body that message that times are better than they were, so if you were eating 30 g protein and are now eating 70, that's great!
But that having been said, I cannot tell you how many grams of protein that is. It looks like a LOT! I'd be shocked if it wasn't 90 g, but I can't know without knowing the portion sizes and stuff.
If you're getting stuffed full and don't have room for more protein, err on the side of cutting back on carby foods. Protein plus carbs = boys, but you don't need that many carbs. For instance:
Breakfast: have 1 toast with eggs or even just juice and eggs if the juice is sweet tasting (like orange or pineapple). That is still protein + carbs and saves you a bit of calories. If you wanted to boost protein, you could have 3 eggs and juice and be less stuffed.
If you're stuffed with your snacks, have just one of those things. Have yogurt and berries, for instance. Or an apple and nuts. That is just sooo much food it's no wonder you may have less room for protein which is very filling. I would have just one snack with more protein between the two snacks.
Lunch: I'd either skip or cut way back on the rice, potatoes, bulgur, pasta to give yourself more room for the meat.
Snacks, again, I'm not sure you need two snacks between lunch and dinner. I'd try a bigger serving of protein in ONE snack rather than two. I have never eaten that often and I have 4 boys!
Dinner - again, if you're too full for meat, cut back on the starches
Snacks - 2 snacks is probably not necessary.
I suspect you're so full from eating everything that you don't have enough room to eat protein.
Reline
September 17th, 2019, 02:03 PM
Sometimes it makes people have diarrhea when they first start it, but other than that, probiotic should have no effect.
I really doubt the gelatin juice does a whole lot and I got 4 boys without it. It's up to you - it did not seem to be associated with possibly more opposites (the milk replacers and wheatgrass supplements DID seem associated with more opposites)
As long as you're eating more protein than you were when you got your girls, but most of all than you were recently, it's all good. The important thing is to send your body that message that times are better than they were, so if you were eating 30 g protein and are now eating 70, that's great!
But that having been said, I cannot tell you how many grams of protein that is. It looks like a LOT! I'd be shocked if it wasn't 90 g, but I can't know without knowing the portion sizes and stuff.
If you're getting stuffed full and don't have room for more protein, err on the side of cutting back on carby foods. Protein plus carbs = boys, but you don't need that many carbs. For instance:
Breakfast: have 1 toast with eggs or even just juice and eggs if the juice is sweet tasting (like orange or pineapple). That is still protein + carbs and saves you a bit of calories. If you wanted to boost protein, you could have 3 eggs and juice and be less stuffed.
If you're stuffed with your snacks, have just one of those things. Have yogurt and berries, for instance. Or an apple and nuts. That is just sooo much food it's no wonder you may have less room for protein which is very filling. I would have just one snack with more protein between the two snacks.
Lunch: I'd either skip or cut way back on the rice, potatoes, bulgur, pasta to give yourself more room for the meat.
Snacks, again, I'm not sure you need two snacks between lunch and dinner. I'd try a bigger serving of protein in ONE snack rather than two. I have never eaten that often and I have 4 boys!
Dinner - again, if you're too full for meat, cut back on the starches
Snacks - 2 snacks is probably not necessary.
I suspect you're so full from eating everything that you don't have enough room to eat protein.
Thanks Atomic, you are so wise. When it comes to lemon water, is it the water itself that is good for being hydrated or does the lemon matter? I mean is it just as good to drink plain water or it gets even better if you have lemon for blue sway? Then I wonder how important you think it is with fresh air? Is it important to spend time outdoors? What is your best tip for quickly getting some protein when you are in a hurry?
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atomic sagebrush
September 18th, 2019, 10:45 AM
The lemon is supposed to be for alkalinity. Now personally (and science agrees with me) the acid alkaline diets are nonsense and do not work at all, but if people want to put some lemon in their water there's no harm to it.
I don't think fresh air matters either way.
When I got my 3rd and 4th boy, I ate 1/2 cup of nuts, either almonds or walnuts, every morning for breakfast. I also often snacked on cheese. Both cheese and nuts are super easy ways to get some protein fast! Yogurt is also good.
Reline
September 18th, 2019, 12:58 PM
The lemon is supposed to be for alkalinity. Now personally (and science agrees with me) the acid alkaline diets are nonsense and do not work at all, but if people want to put some lemon in their water there's no harm to it.
I don't think fresh air matters either way.
When I got my 3rd and 4th boy, I ate 1/2 cup of nuts, either almonds or walnuts, every morning for breakfast. I also often snacked on cheese. Both cheese and nuts are super easy ways to get some protein fast! Yogurt is also good.
Thanks Atomic. I will take a total of 1900 mcg folic acid, that is the total amount of my multivitamin + folic acid tablets. Do you think that's enough? Or do you think I should increase it for blue sway?
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atomic sagebrush
September 19th, 2019, 11:42 AM
Yes that's great. No more than that is needed.
Reline
October 1st, 2019, 02:27 PM
Yes that's great. No more than that is needed.
Hi Atomic! I have some questions again. I've always eaten two slices of toast with cheese for breakfast. But now that I has started with the HE diet I have stopped eating bread in the morning and instead eat cereals with yogurt, weetabix or eggs. I have always had an easy time of losing weight and harder to gain weight. Do you think I will lose weight now that I have replaced the bread?
I also wonder if you have any tips on how to do when, for example, I go to a cafe with friends or are invited to parties and where there are most cakes and pastries. Do you have any tips on how to get protein then?
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atomic sagebrush
October 2nd, 2019, 12:08 PM
If you're eating the same number of calories you will not lose weight. It's fine to eat toast and cheese, though - it's protein + carbs!
Eat the cake and pastry! Sugar does not sway pink. It really doesn't. I've literally never turned down a pastry in my entire life and have 4 boys. It is a complete myth that sugar sways pink. The occasional meal without protein is no big deal. We all have had that happen from time to time, even a couple times a week. You do not need to stick to HE Diet 100% of the time, particularly in the area of protein plus carbs. All you're trying to do is keep your blood sugar up, and you can do that with pure carbs provided you have something to eat (even if it's just more carbs) sooner rather than later.
The ONLY scenario in which blue swayers need to be cautious regarding sugar is if they're gaining too much weight, or if they're like so many all-girl moms and eat ONLY or mostly empty carbs, plus eating very little over the course of the day.
So don't be the person who skips breakfast, then eats a candy bar and a diet coke for lunch, and a salad for dinner!
But it's fine to eat a good breakfast, then go to the cafe and have coffee and a pastry for lunch, then has a good dinner after that a couple times a week. That is no big deal and is how those of us with all boys actually tend to eat (while we are more heavy eaters than girl moms, we aren't eating the full on HE Diet all day every day!)
Reline
October 2nd, 2019, 02:23 PM
If you're eating the same number of calories you will not lose weight. It's fine to eat toast and cheese, though - it's protein + carbs!
Eat the cake and pastry! Sugar does not sway pink. It really doesn't. I've literally never turned down a pastry in my entire life and have 4 boys. It is a complete myth that sugar sways pink. The occasional meal without protein is no big deal. We all have had that happen from time to time, even a couple times a week. You do not need to stick to HE Diet 100% of the time, particularly in the area of protein plus carbs. All you're trying to do is keep your blood sugar up, and you can do that with pure carbs provided you have something to eat (even if it's just more carbs) sooner rather than later.
The ONLY scenario in which blue swayers need to be cautious regarding sugar is if they're gaining too much weight, or if they're like so many all-girl moms and eat ONLY or mostly empty carbs, plus eating very little over the course of the day.
So don't be the person who skips breakfast, then eats a candy bar and a diet coke for lunch, and a salad for dinner!
But it's fine to eat a good breakfast, then go to the cafe and have coffee and a pastry for lunch, then has a good dinner after that a couple times a week. That is no big deal and is how those of us with all boys actually tend to eat (while we are more heavy eaters than girl moms, we aren't eating the full on HE Diet all day every day!)
Thank u Atomic !! You usually recommend that you eat protein and carbs at every meal, does it have to be done exactly at the same time? I mean is it okay to eat a fruit and then after a half hour or an hour to eat some nuts? Or should I eat the fruit and eat the nuts immediately after that? What is best? I just want to do what's best for blue sway, no matter how hard it is, is it a little better to eat protein and carbs at the same time or it doesn't matter if I eat them with an hour apart?
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atomic sagebrush
October 2nd, 2019, 02:41 PM
I recommend that because overall it's best, but at the same time no one can stick to a sway diet every meal, every time, for months on end. That's why I allow cheating is because we live in the real world and need to stay flexible. It makes no sense that we have to eat this very particular way always to have a baby of a certain gender. No one else does this!! Most people have a boy and a girl without even trying, so it cannot be that you have to always eat a very specific type of diet!
We can't test these things and we don't know. If it makes your life easier to eat them within 30 minutes rather than at the same time, that's fine, although I'd not go much longer than that regularly.
The point of all this is, if you fall short sometimes and have only time for a banana or a pastry at the cafe, that is fine. Just try to eat again sooner, because you're trying to avoid your blood sugar dropping after you eat (and eating only carbs makes your blood sugar drop faster than protein and carbs).
Reline
October 5th, 2019, 10:43 AM
I recommend that because overall it's best, but at the same time no one can stick to a sway diet every meal, every time, for months on end. That's why I allow cheating is because we live in the real world and need to stay flexible. It makes no sense that we have to eat this very particular way always to have a baby of a certain gender. No one else does this!! Most people have a boy and a girl without even trying, so it cannot be that you have to always eat a very specific type of diet!
We can't test these things and we don't know. If it makes your life easier to eat them within 30 minutes rather than at the same time, that's fine, although I'd not go much longer than that regularly.
The point of all this is, if you fall short sometimes and have only time for a banana or a pastry at the cafe, that is fine. Just try to eat again sooner, because you're trying to avoid your blood sugar dropping after you eat (and eating only carbs makes your blood sugar drop faster than protein and carbs).
Thanks Atomic, I ordered guaifenesin tablets from the US but the customs office forbade me to take them to Sweden. So now I don't know what to do. There are no guaifenesin tablets here. Does any cough medicine work well against mucus? or does it have to contain special ingredients? I have found a liquid cough medicine containing this:
sodium citrate, citric acid monohydrate, carbomer, glycerol, ethanol, glucose, sucrose, sucralose, sodium benzoate (E211), sugarcane (E150), honey flavoring, lemon flavoring with flavoring, flavoring, effect, flavor with warming effect, flavor enhancer and flavor with masking effect and water.
Do you think I can use this? How much do you think I need because it is liquid? Thank u so much for ur time!!
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atomic sagebrush
October 5th, 2019, 12:59 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, most of us with all boys, myself included, didn't take the stuff.
That cough syrup is not medicinal to the body. All it is is flavoring agents to keep the throat lubricated from saliva (like a cough drop, only in syrup form) I would not bother taking it, plus it does have artificial sugar in it which most blue swayers avoid.
I would just try to keep drinking your lemon water and have some grapefruit juice 1-2 cups a day. These things can help your body make enough EWCM.
BUT do be careful not to drink too MUCH water either! You can make yourself very sick doing that. I know the inclination with swayers is to do more, more, more, but please just drink a reasonable amount of liquid, it's all you need.
Reline
October 7th, 2019, 12:04 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, most of us with all boys, myself included, didn't take the stuff.
That cough syrup is not medicinal to the body. All it is is flavoring agents to keep the throat lubricated from saliva (like a cough drop, only in syrup form) I would not bother taking it, plus it does have artificial sugar in it which most blue swayers avoid.
I would just try to keep drinking your lemon water and have some grapefruit juice 1-2 cups a day. These things can help your body make enough EWCM.
BUT do be careful not to drink too MUCH water either! You can make yourself very sick doing that. I know the inclination with swayers is to do more, more, more, but please just drink a reasonable amount of liquid, it's all you need.
Thanks Atomic. I feel worried that I will not take guifenesin, I once read that you wrote that guaifenesin is Highly recommended, has really seemed to be very effective for blue. Its the best option for blue sway. It makes me very nervous because I don't want anything to ruin my blue sway. Does blood orange juice and lemon water have the same effect as guaifenesin?
I also have another question. This month I got a positive ovulation test on Friday afternoon, I tested early on Saturday morning and got positive again and then I tested early on Sunday morning and got positive again. My app where I enter my temperature every day says I have ovulation on Monday. How should I do when I have such a cykle? Should I bd on Friday night, then Saturday morning and Saturday night? Should I bd once on Sunday and once on Monday or should I bd twice on Sunday? I want to add that I use Clearblue's digital test where you get a happy face in positive test, so you can't read the test wrong.
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atomic sagebrush
October 7th, 2019, 04:07 PM
It is NOT the best option for a blue sway. I don't know what you read, but the only time I would ever have given that recommendation would have been for someone who did not have time to do diet and exercise, and who could not have the 3 or more attempts. Diet, exercise, number of attempts, and making lifestyle changes (like stopping smoking) work. Guaifenesin is something we do because it may help a tiny bit, but it's never been proven. Guaifenesin is about 10 kilometers down the list from the things that are proven and that I believe in. Again, I and 99% of all the other boy moms on here never used guaifenesin, and of all the boys on Planet Earth, 99.999% were conceived without guaifenesin. It just cannot be that important, otherwise where would all the boys have come from in 1900 when it hadn't been invented??
No, citrus juice will not have the exact effect of the medication but it will still help you stay hydrated and may help a little bit to make more EWCM.
Are you using the Clearblues with the flashy and the solid smileys?
Reline
October 8th, 2019, 12:48 PM
It is NOT the best option for a blue sway. I don't know what you read, but the only time I would ever have given that recommendation would have been for someone who did not have time to do diet and exercise, and who could not have the 3 or more attempts. Diet, exercise, number of attempts, and making lifestyle changes (like stopping smoking) work. Guaifenesin is something we do because it may help a tiny bit, but it's never been proven. Guaifenesin is about 10 kilometers down the list from the things that are proven and that I believe in. Again, I and 99% of all the other boy moms on here never used guaifenesin, and of all the boys on Planet Earth, 99.999% were conceived without guaifenesin. It just cannot be that important, otherwise where would all the boys have come from in 1900 when it hadn't been invented??
No, citrus juice will not have the exact effect of the medication but it will still help you stay hydrated and may help a little bit to make more EWCM.
Are you using the Clearblues with the flashy and the solid smileys?
Im using the one with the solid smiley.
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atomic sagebrush
October 9th, 2019, 05:59 PM
So are you telling me that you are having the flashy smiley Friday/Saturday/Sunday, or the solid?
Temperatures aren't always right. I would start BD the first solid smileys (or even sooner if you don't believe in timing) and then just carry on trying at least 1x a day if possible till after you've confirmed ovulation. If you can't BD every day, every other day.
Reline
October 13th, 2019, 01:48 PM
So are you telling me that you are having the flashy smiley Friday/Saturday/Sunday, or the solid?
Temperatures aren't always right. I would start BD the first solid smileys (or even sooner if you don't believe in timing) and then just carry on trying at least 1x a day if possible till after you've confirmed ovulation. If you can't BD every day, every other day.
Thanks Atomic. Which exercise is best for blue sway? I have mostly used dumbbells for arms and shoulders and made squats with weights. Usually do not much cardio. But I read that walking is good for blue because the leg muscles increase testosterone. Should I continue with weights or do you think I should walk more?
I have another question. I usually eat something just before going to bed, I never sleep hungry. But I always wake up hungry in the morning and I usually have breakfast after about 45 min. Is there any reason why I'm so hungry in the morning despite eating right before I sleep? I’m thinking if I eat the wrong things or if I should think about something particular. I usually eat granola with yogurt before I sleep.
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atomic sagebrush
October 13th, 2019, 03:43 PM
I prefer you continue doing exactly what you're doing. Squats are great for boys as are arm weight workouts. Walking is fine, but it is nothing compared to squats! Squats work all the muscles in the hip and thigh area and that raises testosterone far more than walking.
Overnight your body has no food coming in. It has digested the food even if you ate the night before. It's natural for many of us to be hungry in the morning (I always am and got 4 boys that way, LOL) You're not eating the wrong things and there's nothing wrong with that.
Reline
October 14th, 2019, 11:45 AM
I prefer you continue doing exactly what you're doing. Squats are great for boys as are arm weight workouts. Walking is fine, but it is nothing compared to squats! Squats work all the muscles in the hip and thigh area and that raises testosterone far more than walking.
Overnight your body has no food coming in. It has digested the food even if you ate the night before. It's natural for many of us to be hungry in the morning (I always am and got 4 boys that way, LOL) You're not eating the wrong things and there's nothing wrong with that.
Thanks Atomic. However, I get a little confused about the workout. I don't know if I should work out a lot or a little. I have previously read that for blue sway you should work out a maximum of 45 minutes 3-4 days a week. But now I read on a thread that you should not work out too much either because it can sway pink?
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atomic sagebrush
October 15th, 2019, 01:02 PM
I think we may be having a language issue here. Those things mean the same thing.
Working out a maximum of 45 minutes means no more than 45 minutes. I don't want any blue swayers working out more than 45 minutes. 45 minutes is the most anyone should work out in one day for blue.
You actually can do up to 5 days though.
Reline
October 17th, 2019, 02:35 PM
I think we may be having a language issue here. Those things mean the same thing.
Working out a maximum of 45 minutes means no more than 45 minutes. I don't want any blue swayers working out more than 45 minutes. 45 minutes is the most anyone should work out in one day for blue.
You actually can do up to 5 days though.
Thanks Atomic. What I reacted to and what made me a little worried was that in the thread I was reading, a blue swayer asked if she should start exercising and lift weights, because she was walking a lot in her job, but she got the recommendation not to start exercising or lift any weights, bc it was enough for her to walk in her work. So that's why I got a little worried if my training could be too much and sway pink.
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atomic sagebrush
October 17th, 2019, 05:13 PM
She is walking on her feet all day, 8 hours a day, for 5 days a week. That is getting into the realm of overexercise. 45 minutes a day 3-5 days a week is nothing like that and is what I recommend for blue sways. Some blue swayers, I even have them do both cardio 30 minutes and then also the weights at a different time of day. Still, nothing like walking 8 hours a day for 5 days a week.
Reline
October 18th, 2019, 03:12 PM
She is walking on her feet all day, 8 hours a day, for 5 days a week. That is getting into the realm of overexercise. 45 minutes a day 3-5 days a week is nothing like that and is what I recommend for blue sways. Some blue swayers, I even have them do both cardio 30 minutes and then also the weights at a different time of day. Still, nothing like walking 8 hours a day for 5 days a week.
Thanks Atomic. Then I will try not to overwork, if I have walked a lot one day I do not need to work out, but try to work out another day so that my body does not get overworked. I have another question. My husband has allergies so he has taken antihistamine medication. Do you think it can affect our blue sway? He does not need to take the medicine all the time but some periods increase the allergy and then he usually takes the medicine.
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atomic sagebrush
October 19th, 2019, 01:57 PM
Perfect!!
Antihistamines have been said to sway pink, but we did not get good results with them. We got the same number of boys and girls with and without them. I would not have him be miserable, he should take the medication as needed.
Reline
October 23rd, 2019, 04:21 PM
Perfect!!
Antihistamines have been said to sway pink, but we did not get good results with them. We got the same number of boys and girls with and without them. I would not have him be miserable, he should take the medication as needed.
Thanks Atomic. I can't really decide how to do about unprotected intercourse. I have read that it is good if the woman gets exposed to semen couse its bluefriendly, but I am afraid that we start having unprotected intercourse from the beginning of the cycle but then when i get closer to ovulate we get prevented and can not have many attempts which makes it sways pink. So what's best? Having unprotected intercourse throughout the cycle and being exposed to semen or protecting us until ovulation and having only unprotected intercourse during ovulation?
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atomic sagebrush
October 24th, 2019, 12:26 PM
I got my boys having unprotected sex out of the fertile window as did most of us with all boys. That is always the birth control method my husband and I used - we had unprotected sex anywhere from 3-5 times per week when I wasn't fertile, then when I was fertile we used pull out or condoms or did other stuff. When we were trying, we just kept going in the fertile window.
I am not sure what the concern is coming from - are you worried your husband won't be able to perform in the fertile window if he had sex before, or that his sperm count will be low, or is this about timing??
Reline
October 24th, 2019, 01:32 PM
I got my boys having unprotected sex out of the fertile window as did most of us with all boys. That is always the birth control method my husband and I used - we had unprotected sex anywhere from 3-5 times per week when I wasn't fertile, then when I was fertile we used pull out or condoms or did other stuff. When we were trying, we just kept going in the fertile window.
I am not sure what the concern is coming from - are you worried your husband won't be able to perform in the fertile window if he had sex before, or that his sperm count will be low, or is this about timing??
No, I dont belive in timing at all. What worries me most is that we begin to have unprotected intercourse and as we approach ovulation we get prevented due to illness, work and life simply, which means we can't make as many attempts and may end up having only a few attempts before ovulation.
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atomic sagebrush
October 24th, 2019, 02:12 PM
But that happens to everyone now and then. Even if you don't get as many attempts as you'd like, more is still better.
Reline
October 29th, 2019, 03:44 PM
But that happens to everyone now and then. Even if you don't get as many attempts as you'd like, more is still better.
Hi Atomic! Now I'm worried again. I don't really know how to do about my weight. I almost always weighed 57kg, both before I got my daughter and after. When I started training and lifting weights a few months ago, my weight increased to 59/60 kg. I have been thinking about ttc in December. I started following the HE diet at the end of September and felt that I was starting to gain weight fairly quickly. Today I weigh 61/62 kg, so I will probably go up even more until December. How should I think about my weight? I understand that you should increase some weight for blue sway, but I read that you can sway pink if you go up too much in a short time. I try to eat healthy and have reduced carps, but as I eat more and more often, I gain weight.
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atomic sagebrush
October 30th, 2019, 12:18 PM
Tell me what you're eating and I'll tell you how to fix it.
Reline
October 30th, 2019, 02:06 PM
Tell me what you're eating and I'll tell you how to fix it.
Thanks Atomic. I eat a little varied. I eat less carbs than I did, I ate LOTS of carbs before! I do not eat as much bread and have tried to reduce pasta, rice, potatoes. Almost never eats buns, cakes or sweets. For breakfast at. 6.30 I usually eat a bowl of Greek yogurt with weetabix, or cereal or sometimes two crispbread with two boiled eggs. Drink fresh juice or a cup of warm milk with a tea bag. Kl. At 9.30 I eat a bowl of oatmeal with milk, nuts and fresh fruit. At 11:30 I eat some nuts or a fruit. At 12.30 I have lunch consisting of meat, chicken or fish with rice / pasta / potatoes. Here I have tried to reduce carbs. At 14.00 I eat nuts or fruit or cheese. At 3.30 pm I usually eat a banana with some nuts. Kl. At 4.30 pm I eat either cheese, fruit or nuts or yogurt. At 17.30 I have dinner with meat / chicken / fish with rice / pasta / potatoes. At 8.30 pm I eat a bowl of granola and yogurt or two boiled eggs with avocado or banana with peanut butter. I know it's a lot of food but the problem is that if I'm not eating all this then I get hungry and feel my blood sugar drop and that was exactly the behavior I had when I got my daughter, that I was hungry between meals. If I do not eat a good breakfast at 6.30 then I will be hungry even earlier than 9.30. As soon as I remove one of the snacks or reduce the amount, I become hungry and feel my blood sugar drop. I am also worried that if I remove more carbs then I will lose weight because I have an easy time to lose weight. But do you think I've already gained too much weight? I weight 61 kg now.
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atomic sagebrush
October 31st, 2019, 12:52 PM
I got all my boys right around 61 kg. I think that it's best to just try to reduce food intake ~slightly~ and/or up exercise slightly. This doesn't have to be drastic, just a couple bites less food here and there, and then a few more minutes' exercise a day. Your body will tend to adjust over time - as you weigh more, you burn more calories, so eventually you will level off.
Reline
November 1st, 2019, 03:17 PM
I got all my boys right around 61 kg. I think that it's best to just try to reduce food intake ~slightly~ and/or up exercise slightly. This doesn't have to be drastic, just a couple bites less food here and there, and then a few more minutes' exercise a day. Your body will tend to adjust over time - as you weigh more, you burn more calories, so eventually you will level off.
Thanks Atomic. What is the best way to go in ur opinion? That I try to keep the same weight (61kg) until when I'm going to ttc in December? Or should I try to lose some weight now so I gain weight again just before ttc? Or should I try to keep the weight at 61kg and just before I should ttc increase the weight 1-2 kg? Then I will weigh 62-63 kg, which means that I gained about 6 kg from when I got my daughter.
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atomic sagebrush
November 2nd, 2019, 02:34 PM
Please just try to hold steady. Don't lose weight to regain it, that only depletes your reserves for no reason. We have no evidence that gaining weight right at the moment of conception does anything at all for a sway.
Reline
November 5th, 2019, 03:56 AM
Please just try to hold steady. Don't lose weight to regain it, that only depletes your reserves for no reason. We have no evidence that gaining weight right at the moment of conception does anything at all for a sway.
Thanks Atomic, I read that flaxseed (linseed) can sway pink. I usually eat crispbread that contains flaxseed. Do you think it could be a risk?
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atomic sagebrush
November 5th, 2019, 01:07 PM
I don't like anyone to have flaxseed more than 2-3 times per week (and if you've been having it daily for a while, I think you should drop it for a few months totally before eating it again). It definitely has hormonal effects and may be quite harmful in large amounts during pregnancy.
Reline
November 11th, 2019, 04:13 PM
I don't like anyone to have flaxseed more than 2-3 times per week (and if you've been having it daily for a while, I think you should drop it for a few months totally before eating it again). It definitely has hormonal effects and may be quite harmful in large amounts during pregnancy.
Hi again Atomic. I feel like I'm starting to have a good look at my blue sway in terms of diet, exercise, vitamins and bd. What still worries me a lot and makes me nervous is the personality factor. I don't know what to do to get a more boy mom personality. I have no opportunity to play games, nor do I have time to take on challenges. I keep trying to think I can have a son, but it's not that easy. very often I think I can't have a son. What should I do? [emoji20]
I also wonder if it is ok to eat oatmeal every day and is a BMI of 23.1 ok for blue? Thank u!!
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atomic sagebrush
November 11th, 2019, 05:03 PM
Reline, your questions have all been very "boy-mom-ish". Don't worry about that.
Everyone can have a son or a daughter.
Yes, it is fine to eat oatmeal every day.
BMI 23 is fine for blue.
Reline
November 12th, 2019, 01:45 PM
Reline, your questions have all been very "boy-mom-ish". Don't worry about that.
Everyone can have a son or a daughter.
Yes, it is fine to eat oatmeal every day.
BMI 23 is fine for blue.
Thanks Atomic! That makes me happy. I really hope so.
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Reline
November 16th, 2019, 06:29 AM
Thanks Atomic! That makes me happy. I really hope so.
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Hi Atomic! The last few weeks I have felt that I have had low blood pressure, it has been a long time since I had low blood pressure, but I often used to have it before I started swaying and often at that time when I got my daughter. I wonder if the reason is that I have eaten a little too healthy the past few weeks. I eat very little carbs, I eat mostly chicken, eggs, cheese, yogurt, nuts, fruits and vegetables. I do this in order not to gain weight and I have managed to keep the same weight in recent weeks (61-62kg). I try to eat all the time, I never let myself get hungry, but I'm afraid I eat a little too healthy? So I'm getting pinkfriendly? I'm not losing weight, but since I've started to feel low blood pressure sometimes, I'm afraid I've become punkfriendly. I find it a bit difficult to find a balance between following the HE-diet but at the same time not gaining too much weight. Thanks for your advice Atomic!
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atomic sagebrush
November 16th, 2019, 01:37 PM
There's nothing pink friendly about any of that. Keep doing what you're doing. Have you checked your blood pressure or are you just assuming??
EAting a bit of extra sodium will help so if you haven't been salting your foods, I would salt to taste.
Reline
November 18th, 2019, 12:44 PM
There's nothing pink friendly about any of that. Keep doing what you're doing. Have you checked your blood pressure or are you just assuming??
EAting a bit of extra sodium will help so if you haven't been salting your foods, I would salt to taste.
Hi Atomic. When you follow the blue diet, it is good if you stay hydrated. Does it matter in the way you stay hydrated? I mean is it as good to drink water as to drink a cup of tea? Or is it the tea / caffeine itself that is good for blue? I drink quite a lot of water during the day, but if I also drink tea and coconut water or juice I then need to pee in the middle of the night and wake up to go to the bathroom so I have trouble falling asleep again, which affects my sleep. Do you think I should try to drink a little less water so there is room for other liquids such as tea and juice / coconut water?
I also wonder if chia seeds are bad for DH. I have stopped eating chia seeds and flaxseed but should he stop too? Is there food that is bad for DH, I mean that is bad for his semen?
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atomic sagebrush
November 18th, 2019, 01:05 PM
Yes please drink less water. All liquids are the same for our purposes.
I would have DH drop the flax seed for sure and possibly the chia. I don't trust flaxseeds for swaying at all and the chia are very much of an unknown
Reline
November 18th, 2019, 03:02 PM
Yes please drink less water. All liquids are the same for our purposes.
I would have DH drop the flax seed for sure and possibly the chia. I don't trust flaxseeds for swaying at all and the chia are very much of an unknown
Sorry Atomic, but I didn't really understand. Do you think I should drink less water but increase the drinking of other liquids? Or reduce the drinking of all liquids? Thank u!
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atomic sagebrush
November 19th, 2019, 12:12 PM
I think you should drink to your level of thirst but it is ok to use things like tea and juice to do that. You DO NOT need to drink all that tea, juice, milk, coconut water, etc and then ALSO drink water. It's fine to only have the tea, juice, milk, coco water. Lemon water is NOT important, I am fine with you guys dropping that. I never drank lemon water and only rarely had plain water when I got my boys.
I don't want you miserable waking up in the night to pee. Go ahead and cut back, cut back on plain water first, then lemon water, and use the other beverages to make up your liquid intake.
Reline
January 6th, 2020, 12:06 PM
I think you should drink to your level of thirst but it is ok to use things like tea and juice to do that. You DO NOT need to drink all that tea, juice, milk, coconut water, etc and then ALSO drink water. It's fine to only have the tea, juice, milk, coco water. Lemon water is NOT important, I am fine with you guys dropping that. I never drank lemon water and only rarely had plain water when I got my boys.
I don't want you miserable waking up in the night to pee. Go ahead and cut back, cut back on plain water first, then lemon water, and use the other beverages to make up your liquid intake.
Hi Atomic! I haven't written here in a while. I wonder how to do with the supplements when you get pregnant? Which supplements should you continue with and which ones should you stop with? The supplements you should stop with, how should you wean off? Today I take
two tablets Multivitamin
25 µg vitamin D
1900 µg folic acid
500 mg fish oil
priobiotic
241 mg magnesium.
When I need to wean off a certain supplement, how do I do it? Do I start taking every other day, then every third day etc? Thank u for ur answer!
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atomic sagebrush
January 6th, 2020, 04:24 PM
What multivitamin are you taking?
The multivitamin (probably, once I have checked the brand), the probiotic, and the Vit. D are safe all thru pregnancy.
Fish oil, I would take every other day thru pregnancy
Magnesium - is there any magnesium in your multivitamin?? If not, it's fine to continue all thru pregnancy. If there is magnesium in your prenatal I would have you wean off now by spacing doses further and further (just like you describe, every other dy, then every 2, etc) till down to one per week, then you can drop them.
The folic acid, continue at that dose till the end of the first trimester of pregnancy, then wean back to the amount in a prenatal by slowly spacing doses further and further out till down to just the amount in the prenatal.
Reline
January 6th, 2020, 05:11 PM
What multivitamin are you taking?
The multivitamin (probably, once I have checked the brand), the probiotic, and the Vit. D are safe all thru pregnancy.
Fish oil, I would take every other day thru pregnancy
Magnesium - is there any magnesium in your multivitamin?? If not, it's fine to continue all thru pregnancy. If there is magnesium in your prenatal I would have you wean off now by spacing doses further and further (just like you describe, every other dy, then every 2, etc) till down to one per week, then you can drop them.
The folic acid, continue at that dose till the end of the first trimester of pregnancy, then wean back to the amount in a prenatal by slowly spacing doses further and further out till down to just the amount in the prenatal.
Thanks Atomic! This is what my multivitamin contains: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/5fce2a5303b0601143dd2f5afaf1f40c.jpg
I usually take two tabletts a day of my multivitamin.
Do u think i have to continue with the priobiotic? Or can I drop them?
My multivitamin contain 58 mg magnesium a tablett and i usually take two. Then i take additionally 125 mg magnesium. So i take a total of 241 mg magnesium a day. Thank u!!
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atomic sagebrush
January 6th, 2020, 05:19 PM
Ok. I guess it's all right to take two since most of the nutrients are lower dose.
You can continue with that amount of magnesium all thru pregnancy.
You don't HAVE to take probiotic but many sources think it's a good idea to take them during pregnancy.
Reline
January 6th, 2020, 05:22 PM
Ok. I guess it's all right to take two since most of the nutrients are lower dose.
You can continue with that amount of magnesium all thru pregnancy.
You don't HAVE to take probiotic but many sources think it's a good idea to take them during pregnancy.
Thank u Atomic for ur quick answer! One more thing. Do I have to take a special type of fish oil for pregnant or can I continue with mine? Should I start taking fish oil every other day from tomorrow?
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atomic sagebrush
January 7th, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nope you can just continue!
Sure you can take it every other day whenever you want to!!! that is how you'd start weaning off it anyway
Reline
February 29th, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nope you can just continue!
Sure you can take it every other day whenever you want to!!! that is how you'd start weaning off it anyway
Hi Atomic. I haven't written here in a long time. I did sway blue in December and got pregnant from the first attempt but a week ago I got a miscarriage. I was in weak 12. I'm totally devastated. I made a perfect sway. I couldn't believe how everything could sit so perfectly. Everything became perfect, my diet, my workout, my weight, my vitamins, the vitamins of dh, his realeses, the number of attempts. I know many people get miscarriage and it is very common but I still can't understand how I could get it, when I ate so healthy, took vitamins, none of us smokes, none of us drink alcohol, my last pregnancy was completely without complications, we have never had a miscarriage in our family, my period and my ovulation came at the exact time each month. Both me and my husband have always been perfectly healthy. How can you get a miscarriage after all this? I can't help but think of the vitamins I ate. If it could have affected the fetus? I continue to eat the same amount of vitamin D and the same amount of folic acid, I reduced the fish oil to every other day instead of every day, continued with magnesium. Could this amount have affected the fetus? Do you have any experience of people who have swayed blue and had miscarriage? I know there is no answer to why I got miscarriage, but Im just trying to understand, maybe to try to feel a little better.
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atomic sagebrush
March 1st, 2020, 01:28 PM
Most miscarriages have nothing to do with anything you did or didn't do, it's just that something went wrong. Nothing in the blue sway should contribute to miscarriage in any way. I would definitely have your thyroid checked as sometmes thyroid problems are associated with later losses at about 12 weeks. But in most cases we never know why they occurred.
Were you weaning off folic acid at that point??
Reline
March 1st, 2020, 02:00 PM
Most miscarriages have nothing to do with anything you did or didn't do, it's just that something went wrong. Nothing in the blue sway should contribute to miscarriage in any way. I would definitely have your thyroid checked as sometmes thyroid problems are associated with later losses at about 12 weeks. But in most cases we never know why they occurred.
Were you weaning off folic acid at that point??
I tested for the thyroid in week 6 and I had to take medicine for my thyroid so I started using medicine immediately. I had the same problem in my pregnancy with my daughter but it was not detected as early as this time, but it was discovered after two months. I started wean off the folic acid in week 10. I used to take 3 folic acid tablets a day a 500 µg. I stopped with one of the tablets in week 10 then the week after I stopped with another tablet then I got my miscarriage. Should I have stopped using folic acid earlier? Can too much folic acid cause miscarriage?
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atomic sagebrush
March 2nd, 2020, 01:16 PM
No, you came off the tablets just fine. Many people drop folic acid all of a sudden at 12 weeks and we suspect this may cause some losses.
I hope it's obvious I would not have you guys take extra folic acid if it could cause miscarriage. Folic acid PREVENTS miscarriage and I want you to do what you did in any subsequent pregnancies.
The two most likely causes of miscarriage at 12 weeks are thyroid and chromosomal abnormalities. I think they need to get you on thyroid medication immediately upon BFN this time. Chromosomal abnormalities are like lighting, they usually don't strike twice in the same place (although I know that is little consolation) and the odds are good you will not have another loss. :heart:
Reline
March 2nd, 2020, 03:09 PM
No, you came off the tablets just fine. Many people drop folic acid all of a sudden at 12 weeks and we suspect this may cause some losses.
I hope it's obvious I would not have you guys take extra folic acid if it could cause miscarriage. Folic acid PREVENTS miscarriage and I want you to do what you did in any subsequent pregnancies.
The two most likely causes of miscarriage at 12 weeks are thyroid and chromosomal abnormalities. I think they need to get you on thyroid medication immediately upon BFN this time. Chromosomal abnormalities are like lighting, they usually don't strike twice in the same place (although I know that is little consolation) and the odds are good you will not have another loss. :heart:
Thanks Atomic, I read this that u wrote on one thread; ”Once you've had more than one loss and particularly 3 or more, I strongly suggest dropping folic acid all together (even in fortified foods) and switching over to folate only”.
Is it only if u have had more than one loss? Can some people not take folic acid? I feel like if i had another loss i wouldnt try again cause its to hard to go through.
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atomic sagebrush
March 2nd, 2020, 04:07 PM
It is fine if you'd like to switch to folate. It is not something I recommend for one loss. Yes, a small minority of people don't tolerate folic acid well (but most of them already are aware of that.) Everyone can tolerate folate perfectly fine. So if you'd like to switch to folate that's fine.
I understand it is so tempting to want to find something that you can point to and say "aha this is the thing that I can change that will guarantee I don't have a loss". But unfortunately, there is no guarantee I can give you (if there was, I'd already have you do that thing!) Even switching to folate is not a guarantee. I just want you to understand that so you can make peace with the idea that this was nothing you did or didn't do.
Reline
May 27th, 2020, 07:52 AM
It is fine if you'd like to switch to folate. It is not something I recommend for one loss. Yes, a small minority of people don't tolerate folic acid well (but most of them already are aware of that.) Everyone can tolerate folate perfectly fine. So if you'd like to switch to folate that's fine.
I understand it is so tempting to want to find something that you can point to and say "aha this is the thing that I can change that will guarantee I don't have a loss". But unfortunately, there is no guarantee I can give you (if there was, I'd already have you do that thing!) Even switching to folate is not a guarantee. I just want you to understand that so you can make peace with the idea that this was nothing you did or didn't do.
Hi Atomic! Whats ur opinion on ice cream when swaying boy? Thank u!
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atomic sagebrush
May 27th, 2020, 12:15 PM
i ate tons of it when I got my boys. I am completely fine with you guys having ice cream as a part of a sway diet, just don't make it a food group unto itself (especially if you're gaining lots of weight fast)
Reline
July 28th, 2020, 09:28 AM
i ate tons of it when I got my boys. I am completely fine with you guys having ice cream as a part of a sway diet, just don't make it a food group unto itself (especially if you're gaining lots of weight fast)
Hi Atomic, I did a boysway in December and got pregnant immediately then I had a miscarriage in February, the doctor said that it seems that the fetus stopped developing already in week 6. I did another sway this June and got pregnant again from the first attempt and now I had a miscarriage in week 6 again. I'm completely broken, I do not know what to do or how to continue living. I do not understand what is wrong. I have always had very regular periods and ovulation. Do you have any experience of someone who has been in the same situation as me? I get mad thinking that there's something about the boy sway that makes me miscarry. I had a completely flawless pregnancy with my daughter without any complications. Please give me an answer, please help me!
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atomic sagebrush
July 28th, 2020, 03:13 PM
Oh no I'm so so sorry.
There is nothing in the blue sway that could cause any harm, but please tell me what exactly you were taking in terms of supplements. Sometimes people start taking supplements that are not what I recommend and I just want to rule that out. Even things that seem harmless like herbal teas, I want to know about them.
I would have testing done to be sure you don't have any underlying conditions that may be causing this. Some people can have one healthy pregnancy and then after that they have issues with their body attacking the fetus so we need to be sure you don't have that going on.
Reline
July 29th, 2020, 10:45 AM
Oh no I'm so so sorry.
There is nothing in the blue sway that could cause any harm, but please tell me what exactly you were taking in terms of supplements. Sometimes people start taking supplements that are not what I recommend and I just want to rule that out. Even things that seem harmless like herbal teas, I want to know about them.
I would have testing done to be sure you don't have any underlying conditions that may be causing this. Some people can have one healthy pregnancy and then after that they have issues with their body attacking the fetus so we need to be sure you don't have that going on.
I have only taken vitamin D, folic acid, my multivitamin, fish oil (500mg), priobotic and magnesium (125mg). You've looked at my vitamins before and approved them. I have not taken anything more. I have stayed away from all herbs, I drink no tea, no soft drinks, no caffeine, no alcohol. I do not take anything that has sweeteners or additives. I have only used natural ingredients. One thing I keep in mind is that I usually need to take medicine for my thyroid gland when I get pregnant. I would be tested for this in a week, when I enter week 7. Could that be the reason for my miscarriages? That I must take the medicine immediately when I test positive for pregnancy? When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started taking thyroid medicine only after 1-2 months into the pregnancy.
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atomic sagebrush
July 29th, 2020, 08:33 PM
Yes it absolutely can, they need to test your thyroid immediately and possibly even have you take the medicine before you conceive.
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