Implantation bleed - can it be brown blood?

[dreamofdaughter]

Hi ladies,

Today is CD19 for me. 7DPO.

This afternoon, I felt cramping/heaviness like a period and I have brown blood/discharge. Could this be implantation bleeding or is IB typically red blood? I am 9 days away from AF and I *never* spot this early. I maybe spot 2-3 days before my period is due but, even then, spotting is not that "normal" for me. I realize with swaying there isn't really normal anymore. Trying not to get my hopes up too much but looking for other women's experiences with IB. I am not temping anymore so I don't know if I had an associated temp dip.

The only other "symptom" I have is fatigue - but I don't read much into fatigue when one has young children around, lol.

[4blue2pink]

ive never had IB so cant comment from personal experience, but i dont see why it couldnt be brown, brown blood is old blood and if its only a small amount (which IB is) it could take a little while to work its way out if you see what i mean? im pretty sure IB can be pink, red or brown.

fingers crossed for you!! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It can be, or it can also be a little blood from the cervix (which often gets soft around that point in the cycle and sometimes bleeds a bit)

[dreamofdaughter]

Thank you both.

[Lilawt]

Hi

I had implantation bleeding with both my pregnancies. The first one was always brown blood. This only started after AF and once I knew I was preg. It lasted until 13 weeks. All ok. Brown = old blood.

Lil


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[dreamofdaughter]

Hi

I had implantation bleeding with both my pregnancies. The first one was always brown blood. This only started after AF and once I knew I was preg. It lasted until 13 weeks. All ok. Brown = old blood.

Lil


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Thank you. The spotting stopped as did the associated heaviness that went along with it (felt like a period coming on). Not sure if it was a dip in progesterone or IB. I don’t have any other symptoms so I’ll have to wait a week and test.

[dreamofdaughter]

Well this morning I woke up to some bright red blood. I assume AF is a week early. This has never happened to me. I can only assume no ovulation last month. Beyond depressed. 😞

[Nell_]

Well this morning I woke up to some bright red blood. I assume AF is a week early. This has never happened to me. I can only assume no ovulation last month. Beyond depressed. 😞

Oh so sorry hope you're ok and can try again this month x

[atomic sagebrush]

Well this morning I woke up to some bright red blood. I assume AF is a week early. This has never happened to me. I can only assume no ovulation last month. Beyond depressed. ��

how did you determine ovulation?

[dreamofdaughter]

how did you determine ovulation?

Well I don’t entirely know that I did. I assume not. Temping wasn’t working this month because I kept having broken sleep. My last temp was 36.68 on cd 12 but I don’t know if valid. Cd 12/13 my scant cm (I had very little) went milky white. And I became super hungry. But honestly I don’t know if I ovulated?? I never bleed AF cd21. I don’t even spot mid cycle. I did drink a lot of diet drinks this month which I never have and I took an aspirin for a headache a couple times in my cycle but I can’t recall when. Didn’t want to take Advil cause of PUFS or whatever it is called.

We dtd cd10 and cd11. No jump and dump on cd 10. Also dtd cd4 and cd7 but those are out of FW I assume. Oh and we dtd two days before my spotting started so cd 17.

I am assuming the early period is because I am in perimenopause?

[atomic sagebrush]

I wouldn't jump straight to the M word. Swaying makes for some weird and short and even anovulatory ones and so it's much more likely that you're having an off cycle from swaying rather than anything more dire or permanent.

(ps perimenopause can go on for years - and it is rare that it goes from 28 days to suddenly 21 days. I'm in perimenopause, whoohoo LOL, and my cycles are still mostly 28 days but some have been 25-26. That's much more common than a sudden and dreamatic shift, and since it happened suddenly, I doubt it is perimenopause)

I would keep doing e4d before and after you think you've Oed. How many calories and how much fat are you eating?

[Lilawt]

Bless you I’m sorry to read AF arrived early- what a bummer that you got your hopes up with the possibility of implantation bleed.

I remember once I had two periods in one month, it was so out of the blue, a week after AF stopped.... it was back again. Never figured out why but I conceived the following cycle!

Just read some of your other posts, sending you lots of luck with your pink sway !

Lil


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[dreamofdaughter]

I wouldn't jump straight to the M word. Swaying makes for some weird and short and even anovulatory ones and so it's much more likely that you're having an off cycle from swaying rather than anything more dire or permanent.

(ps perimenopause can go on for years - and it is rare that it goes from 28 days to suddenly 21 days. I'm in perimenopause, whoohoo LOL, and my cycles are still mostly 28 days but some have been 25-26. That's much more common than a sudden and dreamatic shift, and since it happened suddenly, I doubt it is perimenopause)

I would keep doing e4d before and after you think you've Oed. How many calories and how much fat are you eating?

Thank you. I feel super nauseas today and I had hot flushes last night. But I am still bleeding. I feel off. That’s why I was thinking ok this must be M starting.

I don’t know about calories. I definitely was lower than normal before Ov but then after ovulation I became ravenous and couldn’t control myself. Now I don’t feel like eating cause of nausea since my bleed started. I think I get enough fat. I eat an egg a day plus a multigrain bagel with margarine. I eat a handful of hazelnuts a day. If I eat bread I put margarine on it. I eat fish once a week. And over the holidays I ate 3 different Christmas dinners two before ovulation and one after. I think you’re right it is likely an early period from swaying because I had almost no cm before Ov which is so weird for me. Like i said, it went milky and more abundant after I think I Ov. But I have no way of confirming.

[dreamofdaughter]

Bless you I’m sorry to read AF arrived early- what a bummer that you got your hopes up with the possibility of implantation bleed.

I remember once I had two periods in one month, it was so out of the blue, a week after AF stopped.... it was back again. Never figured out why but I conceived the following cycle!

Just read some of your other posts, sending you lots of luck with your pink sway !

Lil


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Thank you Lil! I hope my pink bundle is just making me absolutely sure I will appreciate her. :)

[Lilawt]

That’s the right attitude! You deserve that sweet little girl and I’m sure she’s just waiting for the right time.

Lil


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[dreamofdaughter]

Thank you. I feel super nauseas today and I had hot flushes last night. But I am still bleeding. I feel off. That’s why I was thinking ok this must be M starting.

I don’t know about calories. I definitely was lower than normal before Ov but then after ovulation I became ravenous and couldn’t control myself. Now I don’t feel like eating cause of nausea since my bleed started. I think I get enough fat. I eat an egg a day plus a multigrain bagel with margarine. I eat a handful of hazelnuts a day. If I eat bread I put margarine on it. I eat fish once a week. And over the holidays I ate 3 different Christmas dinners two before ovulation and one after. I think you’re right it is likely an early period from swaying because I had almost no cm before Ov which is so weird for me. Like i said, it went milky and more abundant after I think I Ov. But I have no way of confirming.

Hi atomic. So I ended up seeing a Dr because of this nausea (still ongoing) and the occasional feeling of flushness. Neg preg test (no surprise there). And all my hormones are really good this month so I guess not likely menopause related. They are pretty much the same as last year around this time when I had them taken, go figure. FSH day 3=8. Estradiol within expected range. So I am clueless about why I keep getting the intermittent nausea and flushes. Maybe a weird bug. I am hungry though, really hungry. And eating is the only thing that makes me stop feeling sick. Not great for the sway, but it's impossible to get through the day otherwise. I hope it passes soon. :(

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you. I feel super nauseas today and I had hot flushes last night. But I am still bleeding. I feel off. That’s why I was thinking ok this must be M starting.

I don’t know about calories. I definitely was lower than normal before Ov but then after ovulation I became ravenous and couldn’t control myself. Now I don’t feel like eating cause of nausea since my bleed started. I think I get enough fat. I eat an egg a day plus a multigrain bagel with margarine. I eat a handful of hazelnuts a day. If I eat bread I put margarine on it. I eat fish once a week. And over the holidays I ate 3 different Christmas dinners two before ovulation and one after. I think you’re right it is likely an early period from swaying because I had almost no cm before Ov which is so weird for me. Like i said, it went milky and more abundant after I think I Ov. But I have no way of confirming.

:agree: It just does not start suddenly like that. I was just telling someone else this but I started having hot flashes in the 2ww off and on (and around period starting) when I was 35 or so and had 3 more kids after that - and my cycles re still quite regular now at 48! If it's happening all at once it is probably not the M word and I'm glad the hormones are backing that up. Did they have any explanation?

I would take a sample day of eating. Don't worry about cheating over Christmas - while it can help give your body a chance at nutrients it's really the day in and day out that affects ovulation. So look at a normal day and see how much you're eating and then we'll know if we need to tweak anything.

[dreamofdaughter]

Sample

multigrain bagel
egg
margarine
bread 2 slices
hummus 2T (made with canola oil)
strawberry coconut yogurt
kale mix salad
fruit bowl
poppy seed salad dressing
1/4 cup lentils
1/4 cup rice
broccoli

OR

multigrain bagel
egg
margarine
apple
kale mix salad
poppy seed dressing
homemade poppyseed muffin (made with margarine and egg) OR store bought vegan cupcake made with veg oil
small amt chicken/fish
rice
green beans

[dreamofdaughter]

As for the nausea, she had no idea. I am more and more inclined to think it was a weird bug because I also had major leg aches and couldn't run/spin. I had zero energy which I normally have a good amount of energy and can get out of bed at 7 no problem but the last few days I have been struggling to get out at 8! I went to bed at 8pm last night, took a benadryl to knock myself out and today I feel a little more like myself. The weird thing was when I felt sick my appetite was out of control. Hoping today it is more manageable as I would like to go back to reduced calories etc. I didn't gain a pound despite eating a ton for the past few days and no exercise since Sunday.

[atomic sagebrush]

I need the totals if at all possible. It doesn't seem like enough at first blush but without knowing the portion sizes I can't sign off on it. Even just a guesstimate.

[atomic sagebrush]

I have had a couple bugs like that and I would not have known I was even sick, except that it hit the kiddos too (and harder). That extra eating when ill is totally taken into consideration.

[dreamofdaughter]

I need the totals if at all possible. It doesn't seem like enough at first blush but without knowing the portion sizes I can't sign off on it. Even just a guesstimate.

Will send tonight!