Some diet questions

[PinkDaisy]

Hello,
I've been loosely dieting for over 2 months and aiming for an attempt next month. I just started trying to track my food since I have a history of loosing ovulation from loosing too much weight. How many carbs are we supposed to have? It seems like I'm ok gEtting proper fat and protein...but if I'm counting correctly my calories seem low and carbs seem high. I tried finding a thread of food suggestions... sometimes I wonder if I'm eating the wrong things,
What kind of dairy should we have...full fat..low fat...fat free? I usually eat a low fat yogurt a day and have some cheese on something.
And what about cooking oils...is olive oil ok ?
Thanks in advance!

[atomic sagebrush]

You don't track carbs. If we eat a certain number of calories, protein, and fat, then the carbs will take care of themselves.

yes, it's a higher carb diet than some but this is because animal studies have found that getting more cals from carbs vs. pro and fat is more pink friendly.

If you have PCOS or tendencies that way, full fat only. I actually suggest in your case you also do full fat because it can help keep you ovulating when you're prone to losing ovulation.

Olive oil is ok but canola, corn, safflower, soy, vegetable oils are better.

[PinkDaisy]

You don't track carbs. If we eat a certain number of calories, protein, and fat, then the carbs will take care of themselves.

yes, it's a higher carb diet than some but this is because animal studies have found that getting more cals from carbs vs. pro and fat is more pink friendly.

If you have PCOS or tendencies that way, full fat only. I actually suggest in your case you also do full fat because it can help keep you ovulating when you're prone to losing ovulation.

Olive oil is ok but canola, corn, safflower, soy, vegetable oils are better.


Thank you for your response. Are they any go to foods and suggestions? I do feel hungry and then find myself picking on junk (not snacking all day...just at "eating time".

I ate 2 apples today cause I was still hungry..is that ok? What about carrots? I think I'm meeting fat and protein but falling a little short on calories. If anyone can share what they eat too..that would be great.

[atomic sagebrush]

There are no forbidden foods on the LE Diet. All foods are fine within limits. People with PCOS or lowered egg quality will want to skip sugar but those without PCOS can have sugar.

Apples and carrots are fine. But given your history of losing ovulation I suspect you'd be fine adding in some more carby, even sugary foods to help boost the cals up.

Have u seen our diet support threads?? We have quite a long set of posts now where people go through and discuss their food choices. Here's the current one, and the first post has links to others https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/67718-time-new-le-diet-support-thread.html

[PinkDaisy]

There are no forbidden foods on the LE Diet. All foods are fine within limits. People with PCOS or lowered egg quality will want to skip sugar but those without PCOS can have sugar.

Apples and carrots are fine. But given your history of losing ovulation I suspect you'd be fine adding in some more carby, even sugary foods to help boost the cals up.

Have u seen our diet support threads?? We have quite a long set of posts now where people go through and discuss their food choices. Here's the current one, and the first post has links to others https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/67718-time-new-le-diet-support-thread.html

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for! I'll try adding some more things to my diet. I would say the things I'm holding strong to are at least 14 hour fast...2 to 3 cups of coffee...sometimes wine (usually low sugar). Getting some cold feet about actually following thru next month.
So I've been taking 400mg of folic acid..I see it also has calcium in it. Should I be doing just straight folic acid..800? My dh and I both have soy creamer in coffee. That should good for him? Should I stick with whole milk instead?
Also...he takes milk thistle...turmeric...nac...l-carnitine...coenzyme cq10 for health reasons. Anything stand out as bad for pink? Thanks for always getting back to me!

[atomic sagebrush]

I like people to take 1200-1600 mcg (that is MICROgrams, not milligrams!! I hope you're not taking 400 milligrams of folic taht's way too much) of folic to make up

Yes I prefer you guys do folic alone so they don't go overboard on anything added in there.

Is there added sugar in the soy creamer?

Yes, some of the stuff hubby is taking sways blue, but it has not seemed to be the case that anything hubby takes is much of a swayer.

[PinkDaisy]

I like people to take 1200-1600 mcg (that is MICROgrams, not milligrams!! I hope you're not taking 400 milligrams of folic taht's way too much) of folic to make up

Yes I prefer you guys do folic alone so they don't go overboard on anything added in there. Or do I get folate? Is one better than the other?

Is there added sugar in the soy creamer?

Yes, some of the stuff hubby is taking sways blue, but it has not seemed to be the case that anything hubby takes is much of a swayer.

Thanks again...
It was 400 McG... so I'll up that to the plain folic acid. I have an 800 dose..is that ok or do more?

The soy creamer has 1 gram of sugar in a tablespoon. I'm fine with having either in coffee so whatever is better for sway.

What should I tell him to cut back on leading up to attempt?

Thanks so much!

[atomic sagebrush]

I like you guys to take 1200-1600 mcg of folic acid a day to make up for anything lacking in the diet.

:agree: that's barely any sugar, fine to continue with the soy

Most of our husbands would do nothing to sway. If he was willing to give up red meat, all meat, or even cut back on all protein and healthy fat sources a little, that may help, but if he won't, it's not a dealbreaker.

[PinkDaisy]

I like you guys to take 1200-1600 mcg of folic acid a day to make up for anything lacking in the diet.

:agree: that's barely any sugar, fine to continue with the soy

Most of our husbands would do nothing to sway. If he was willing to give up red meat, all meat, or even cut back on all protein and healthy fat sources a little, that may help, but if he won't, it's not a dealbreaker.

My husband used to be a big meat eater. He has cut back a lot and eats a more low fat diet now..not so much for swaying but for his health. Could that help? What do you mean cut back on healthy fat sources?
Also totally new question... I got af today (earlier than expected). Today is 10 days after a positive opk. Is that a problem.could it be from diet. Now that this is the month we planned on attempting I'm getting cold feet. I feel like I'm in crunch time to do everything right and not sure I have the past 3 months.
Also, is there any truth to gender and ovary ovulated from? I know my son was conceived from the right. Anyone have experience with side and gender? Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that may help.

If he is eating a lot of transfats that may sway pink. That is not going to be beneficial to his health, though, of course.

How sure are you about when you got that positive OPK? How many days was the cycle (sorry I'm not seeing that with a quick read of the thread)

WE aren't sure if side of ovulation matters. A study seemed to indicate that in 3 month patterns, particuarly pattners of L, L, R, the gender ratio did change from what was expected (75% boys in that scenario) but other patterns were nowhere near as strong a correlation and in order to get your ovulation into the right pattern, it would be like hitting a slot machine - you would have to play the machine month after month after month just hoping you could get it to come out right,. And many women nearly always ovulate from one side, usually the right so if you were waiting around for a left side O when you virtually always O from the right, you'd have a long wait!

We have plenty of people who have gotten "ovary side opposites"

[PinkDaisy]

Yes that may help.

If he is eating a lot of transfats that may sway pink. That is not going to be beneficial to his health, though, of course.

How sure are you about when you got that positive OPK? How many days was the cycle (sorry I'm not seeing that with a quick read of the thread)

WE aren't sure if side of ovulation matters. A study seemed to indicate that in 3 month patterns, particuarly pattners of L, L, R, the gender ratio did change from what was expected (75% boys in that scenario) but other patterns were nowhere near as strong a correlation and in order to get your ovulation into the right pattern, it would be like hitting a slot machine - you would have to play the machine month after month after month just hoping you could get it to come out right,. And many women nearly always ovulate from one side, usually the right so if you were waiting around for a left side O when you virtually always O from the right, you'd have a long wait!

We have plenty of people who have gotten "ovary side opposites"

Thanks atomic!
So I got the positive on day 16... using a cheapie ovulation stick. I got my period on day 26.. which is early. I had a recent song ladt cycle and they saw an egg on the left. I know my son was on the right..that's why I was curious. The song tech mentioned she's heard girls from left and that your body alternates each cycle..that's why I asked. Thanks again! So I'm on day 3 and this was the cycle we were attempting. Any last minute pointers ? I am getting a cold...anything I can do or take that will not hurt sway or help?

[atomic sagebrush]

Your body doesn't ovulate from alternating sides, that's been totally debunked. Most of us ovulate from the right (the reason is because the way our body is designed, we have more blood flow and in turn more hormones flowing to the right) but some people and everyone, in some months, will O from the left at times. :)

Having a cold may help your sway. I prefer you guys not take anything to help with your cold as most things are not safe when TTC and as for vitamins, they may sway blue.

[PinkDaisy]

Thanks again...
So we're getting close to our first attempt although it's possible I don't ovulate cause my bmi has since lowered Even more..below 18. I'm recording everything I eat and think I'm within limits. Then there's a part of me not wanting to attempt this month cause in the rare chance I get pregnant, October..November is a rough time at my job. So I'm feeling confused. But I've been on the diet 3 months and getting older so don't want to waste time.
Of those supplements my dh takes, what can he avoid leading up to ovulation? He's ok with stopping... he isn't eating any trans fat...practically no fat which is new for him.
If I compare my diet to last time...last time I really took sodium into consideration..this time I'm not. Also, I drank 1 to 2 crystal light a day last time... now I have the occasional diet soda. Anything else I should change?

[atomic sagebrush]

You need to up calories to stop the weight loss. Even if you have to exceed the limits of the day.

Having him drop supplements for a couple days around ovulation won't do anything and I'd just let him continue.

:agree: not worrying about sodium and crystal light - both those are things I did differently between my boys (4th failed sway) and my girl!

[PinkDaisy]

Thanks again! I think I'm just confused about life and the thought of another baby...especially a boy. So I'm second guessing everything. I know if we are going to attempt this, we can't wait much more. Just a few things... I eat a tablespoon of peanut butter a day. That's ok? I think I read somewhere about peppermint tea for dh? Does that help? My dh cut back on red meat..but still eats chicken and turkey and doesn't have a 14 hour fast like me... He's not low protein...I know most dh don't do anything but could those things be bad? What can he do leading up to ovulation to help?
I know I keep reading the perfect sway can still not work. I feel like my body just attracts y sperm... is it the ewcm? What can I do to lower that. I'm going to jump and dump when we attempT. On day 11 so I'm starting to get close.... thanks again!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

all foods are fine within limits, even peanut butter.

I have dropped peppermint tea since it hasn't worked and really cut odds of conception but pep tea for DH is the least harmful of the herbs. up to you.

Husband does not need to do the LE Diet. No husbands fast or go low protein, it's not their bodies that will be pregnant and they don't need to do that stuff.

We don't know what mechanism(s) actually sway. EWCM has been speculated about but I've seen so many EWCM opposites (including my own) that I'm not at all convinced it does anything really. I suggest just doing what has worked for most people most of the time and not getting hung up on theories that are not only not proven, but are actually kind of DISproven based on our results.

[PinkDaisy]

Thanks so much! I've been taking cheap ovulation tests (clinical guard) and still no sign of a darkening line. Tomorrow is day 16. Last cycle I got the positive on day 16. But my period day 26... I read somewhere that these detect surge late. I'm afraid I will either miss it or now I'm delayed due to weight loss. I had a major cheat day on Sunday...wings...chili. The scale went up 2 lbs and has since stayed on. Not sure what to do at this point to ensure ovulation. Also, where do I go from here as far as dh releasing? It's been 3 days but was kind of hoping for a positive opk.

[atomic sagebrush]

You will ovulate eventually, it just may take a while.

If you're having him abstain, have him release once, dump it, then keep going with the abstain. If he's doing daily (freuent) release have him keep releasing every day. If he's doing regular release have him release and then keep waiting for the pos OPK whenever it comes.

[PinkDaisy]

It's been 6 days since release. Not sure which method we're going for in terms of releasing. Should he release every few days and keep waiting for positive opk. He's 38 if that changes things. I've upped calories with meals to try and keep weight on.. but is that swaying blue at same time. Day 19 and still no sign of darkening line �� Thanks again!

[atomic sagebrush]

yes I'd just have him release now and then from here on in, every 2-4 days.

If you need to up calories to keep weight on then that is not going to be swaying blue. It's just keeping you from starving LOL!!!

How much fat are you estimating you're getting again?

[PinkDaisy]

yes I'd just have him release now and then from here on in, every 2-4 days.

If you need to up calories to keep weight on then that is not going to be swaying blue. It's just keeping you from starving LOL!!!

How much fat are you estimating you're getting again?

I think around 50 to 60 grams if I'm calculating correctly. I'm trying not to feel starving lol...thanks! Is there any connection between delayed ovulation and boys?

[atomic sagebrush]

Only if the delayed ovulation is caused by PCOS.

There are several reasons why ovulation is delayed and only if it's related to PCOS can it be ~somewhat~ correlated to more boys conceived.

This is not the situation you are in and would not sway blue for you.

Could you please elaborate what you mean by "if I'm calculating corretly"? How are you calculating? Counting fruit and veg in there?

[PinkDaisy]

Only if the delayed ovulation is caused by PCOS.

There are several reasons why ovulation is delayed and only if it's related to PCOS can it be ~somewhat~ correlated to more boys conceived.

This is not the situation you are in and would not sway blue for you.

Could you please elaborate what you mean by "if I'm calculating corretly"? How are you calculating? Counting fruit and veg in there?

So I don't calculate calories and fat in most fruit and veggies... but I'll cut up an eggplant and drizzle canola oil on it before baking so I'm just guessing how much fat that was. Also, if I take a few bites of this or that...finish my kids food, I ate crumb cake today from a bakery as part of my meal... I'll just guess about how much I ate if it's not exact on a label.

I've been so regular the last year...now that I'm finally ready to attempt ..I'm not ovulating so I'm getting a bit frustrated and feel like this is a repeat of my second child. I'm thinking of getting the smiley ovulation kits in addition to my cheapies to make sure I don't miss it. But trying to keep weight on is my priority. Thanks again..sorry for the vent!

[AHAM23]

Have you had successs doing one method or another on husband releasing to sway girl?

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: ok good yes that's what I want you to do - skip the fruit and veg but do count the fat/cals in anything you use to cook the veg in like oil, butter, salad dressing, etc.

Let's err on the side of more rather than less. Don' worry about counting things like a couple bites of your kids' lunch and/or up your limits to 60-65 to be sure you're getting enough.

[atomic sagebrush]

Have you had successs doing one method or another on husband releasing to sway girl?

No none of these have seemed to help.

We generally have guys under 35 do abstain and guys over 35 do daily release but honestly, none of them have worked.

[PinkDaisy]

:agree: ok good yes that's what I want you to do - skip the fruit and veg but do count the fat/cals in anything you use to cook the veg in like oil, butter, salad dressing, etc.

Let's err on the side of more rather than less. Don' worry about counting things like a couple bites of your kids' lunch and/or up your limits to 60-65 to be sure you're getting enough.

Ok great...thanks! I'm glad I might be doing something right lol...just not ovulating. I'm finding myself eating some valentines treats...maybe that will up,fat without ruining anything. I'll keep u posted and sure I'll have more questions soon!

[PinkDaisy]

Ok great...thanks! I'm glad I might be doing something right lol...just not ovulating. I'm finding myself eating some valentines treats...maybe that will up,fat without ruining anything. I'll keep u posted and sure I'll have more questions soon!

I'm convinced I'll never ovulate at this point...day 22. I feel like I'm eating a lot now too. Anything I can drink...take? A friend took vitex or fertility tea? She's having a girl..could that help or typically sway blue?

[atomic sagebrush]

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE VITEX or fertility tea or anything herbal at this point. All you'll do is delay O further. Taking those herbs when you're in the middle of a delayed O is like throwing gasoline on a fire.

We have people all the time ovulate after that point. You likely WILL still ovulate and you can still try to catch that egg, it's fine to do that.

[PinkDaisy]

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE VITEX or fertility tea or anything herbal at this point. All you'll do is delay O further. Taking those herbs when you're in the middle of a delayed O is like throwing gasoline on a fire.

We have people all the time ovulate after that point. You likely WILL still ovulate and you can still try to catch that egg, it's fine to do that.

Ok..I'm hoping. I won't take anything. I'm just trying to get some weight back that I lost so my body can ovulate. I've been eating more junk..sweets as meals. I hope this isn't too bad. Ive also been using truvia in my coffee this whole time, did I read somewhere that's not good? It's sugar free. Anything else I can do but just wait? Thanks!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Too many sweets can be bad too though. Focus on real foods and then sprinkle in some sweets as needed if you need to boost calories. Be sure you're getting upper limits of fat especially.

Stevia is supposedly blue friendly. Now, I really doubt it does anything but most pink swayers do choose to avoid it.

[PinkDaisy]

Too many sweets can be bad too though. Focus on real foods and then sprinkle in some sweets as needed if you need to boost calories. Be sure you're getting upper limits of fat especially.

Stevia is supposedly blue friendly. Now, I really doubt it does anything but most pink swayers do choose to avoid it.

Oh no.. all this time I thought I was doing the right thing with the truvia. So I should have been having just the coffee with the drop of soy creamer? Splenda is ok though? I thought truvia was similar to Splenda but without all the chemicals. I'm already this stressed and we never even made it to an attempt. I'll try to limit sweets...Valentine's Day I guess was a major cheat day. Thanks again!

[atomic sagebrush]

I really doubt the stevia does anything at all negative for a sway. I'ts just whenever I can stay in line with the "old school" tactics without anyone harming their health or their fertility, I do. They say "it's alkaline" and while I know that is biological nonsense, it doesn't hurt anything to avoid it. I 110% do not think anyone's sway hinges on Truvia or not.

It's a totally different thing than Splenda though. It's based on an herb (and herbs can sometimes have medicinal properties) whereas Splenda is made from the sugar molecule that is chemically altered in a lab.

You can have coffee with aspartame, saccarhine, or Splenda. But I don't think Truvia is a swaykiller, no wy no how.

[PinkDaisy]

I stopped stevia. I've been focusing on trying to keep..put weight on without swaying blue. No luck with ovulation at day 30. Should I be going to the doctor at this point, my cycles were regular this last year so I know it's from stress and diet..just not sure if there is anything I can do at this point. I don't do fiber anymore...except I do eat low carb..high fiber wraps here and there. Is that ok? I also don't exercise so I feel like I have nothing going for me except my long fast overnight. Thanks for the support.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sometimes you can parlay delayed ovualtion into a Clomid prescription so that may be something to consider. Other than that doctors tend to be pretty unhelpful, most tell you to wait it out or do some testing that will likely come back normal.

The low carb high fiber wraps on occasion are fine.

I know it feels like you're barely doing anything. But the thing is, that's how people get girls all the time - they don't deliberately change anything in their life (or don't realize they have!). It's all about the little changes and since your cycle is being tricky that indicates to me you're in the pink zone, now we just have to dial it back ever so slightly to get back to where you can conceive!

[PinkDaisy]

Sometimes you can parlay delayed ovualtion into a Clomid prescription so that may be something to consider. Other than that doctors tend to be pretty unhelpful, most tell you to wait it out or do some testing that will likely come back normal.

The low carb high fiber wraps on occasion are fine.

I know it feels like you're barely doing anything. But the thing is, that's how people get girls all the time - they don't deliberately change anything in their life (or don't realize they have!). It's all about the little changes and since your cycle is being tricky that indicates to me you're in the pink zone, now we just have to dial it back ever so slightly to get back to where you can conceive!

Thanks! That makes me feel better! I know I conceived both boys in cycle day 30 something so wasn't sure about the whole delayed ovulation and more odds of boys. I am starting to see some cm...sorry tmi so not sure if something is going on. I switched to a digital ovulation and only doing once a day...not sure if I should get more cheapies and do them in the afternoon too. Since this is going for number 3 I wanted to avoid doctors and fertility treatment like we did for number 2. I did clomid with my second for 6 months. I'll ride this out but trying to take on the mentality that if we aren't meant for 3 then so be it. I guess for now I will keep doing what I'm doing...just trying to get some weight up so my body is capable of ovulating again. I was so regular ..that's what makes it so frustrating now. Thanks for reading my vent!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just let me know how I can help - FXFXFX that this is it!

[PinkDaisy]

At day 33 is there anything I can do to make an egg or just bring on af at this point so I can start fresh. I feel like this can go on forever. I don't want to become to laid back but I've definitely upped all limits to try and just put weight on. I ate a bagel and pizza twice this week. Doesn't seem le friendly! Very frustrated I just want to attempt.....and I've been withholding dtd cause I keep thinking tomorrowhas to be the day I get a positive! I guess with protection is ok right? Thanks again!

[atomic sagebrush]

It can't go on forever, and anything you take simply carries the risk of making it take LONGER for your cycle to normalize.

If there was something that actually worked to "bring on an egg" I'd have you guys use it! And AF will only come after ovulation has occurred. PLEASE do not do any of the things rumored online to "cause a period". They are simply code words for causing an early miscarriage and if you aren't about to get your period and aren't pregnant they won't do anything (and many of them are harmful).

DTD with protection is fine.

If you haven't been having unprotected sex what you could possibly do is go to the doctor, explain you're having a long cycle, and see if they'll give you some progesterone. You could take it for 10 days, then you'll have a period. But the catch is that for all we know in that time you'd ovulate or have gotten AF anyway. They may be willing to test to see where you are in the cycle as well. That is the best way to proceed if you really can't wait it out - none of the herbal "natural" methods work.

[PinkDaisy]

So...I ended up getting a positive opk late at night on day 34. I had a feeling cause I all of a sudden got a lot of ewcm. I was at a wedding and ate 3 hours straight...cheat day...fried foods. Dh had veal. I was so upset but figured I was waiting all this time I didn't want to miss my chance . We dtd then I jumped and took a shower. The opk was still positive in the morning and tmi......so much ewcm. It was then I started to read up and realized I never did antihistamine. I took a benedryl 24 hours after attempt..I know that probably didn't do anything good at that point..hope nothing bad either.n. Now I'm just nervous after all this dieting...I messed things up.

[Mommykisses]

Sorry I didn’t know where to post this and for some reason am unable to post a new thread . I just came across this “ new study “ which is 3 years old . Stating that females are the weaker link . I am wondering if anyone here know anything about this link ? It seems to contradict anything I’ve known about swaying and am nOw wondering if this is why I have 2 failed sways .



https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/30/female-embryos-more-likely-to-die-in-pregnancy-than-males-study-claims

[atomic sagebrush]

It's one study, lots of other studies found the opposite. It is JUST as likely that baby girls are tougher and can hang on longer into pregnancy before they're lost and no one is able to know based on existing technology how many boys/girls are lost early in pregnancy (naturally conceived, anyway - IVF results indicate more boys are lost, but that doesn't really let us know what's happening either). This study dealt with only losses between 10-15 weeks (which honestly is the minority of pregnancies, most losses occur earlier than that)

Here's the thing though. Just do what has worked for people over the course of time - diet, exercise, number of attempts, Clomid/Femara if you can get them. We don't need all these studies to add up and make sense. We don't need to know the reasons why any of this works. Just do what works for most people most of the time and don't worry about what any study is saying for now - because the fact is that they don't know what causes losses, they don't really know anything, and even the best study in the world is subject to lots of pitfalls along the way - the way they design the study, etc - that can be very misleading if not downright dishonest!

[Mommykisses]

It's one study, lots of other studies found the opposite. It is JUST as likely that baby girls are tougher and can hang on longer into pregnancy before they're lost and no one is able to know based on existing technology how many boys/girls are lost early in pregnancy (naturally conceived, anyway - IVF results indicate more boys are lost, but that doesn't really let us know what's happening either). This study dealt with only losses between 10-15 weeks (which honestly is the minority of pregnancies, most losses occur earlier than that)

Here's the thing though. Just do what has worked for people over the course of time - diet, exercise, number of attempts, Clomid/Femara if you can get them. We don't need all these studies to add up and make sense. We don't need to know the reasons why any of this works. Just do what works for most people most of the time and don't worry about what any study is saying for now - because the fact is that they don't know what causes losses, they don't really know anything, and even the best study in the world is subject to lots of pitfalls along the way - the way they design the study, etc - that can be very misleading if not downright dishonest!


Thank you . It was kind of a shocking and scared read since I’ve been so invested in swaying . Hopefully this time around it works 🤞

[atomic sagebrush]

We know swaying works because our results are showing it - regardless of what any study seems to find. The outcomes are what we need to be listening to. :) Good luck and pink dust headed your way.

[PinkDaisy]

So...I ended up getting a positive opk late at night on day 34. I had a feeling cause I all of a sudden got a lot of ewcm. I was at a wedding and ate 3 hours straight...cheat day...fried foods. Dh had veal. I was so upset but figured I was waiting all this time I didn't want to miss my chance . We dtd then I jumped and took a shower. The opk was still positive in the morning and tmi......so much ewcm. It was then I started to read up and realized I never did antihistamine. I took a benedryl 24 hours after attempt..I know that probably didn't do anything good at that point..hope nothing bad either.n. Now I'm just nervous after all this dieting...I messed things up.


Hello....I think this may have gotten lost. I wanted to update. 9 days after attempt I got my period. So I guess I stressed about antihistamine for nothing. Going to try again and hoping to not have such delayed ovulation. Problem is my bmi is at 17.5 which I know is part of the problem. I've upped all limits...read diet threads. Do you have any ideas on what I can add to my diet to stop weight loss and maintain ovulation?
Is 9 day luteal phase an issue? I've had 10..11 in the past.
Thank you!!

[atomic sagebrush]

9 days isn't great, but the good news is it is likely just a one-off and will be back to 10-11 in upcoming months.

Drop fiber if using it.

Add in a serving of full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week,a nd a serving of salmon if you like it, red meat if you don't, every week.

and do WHATEVER it takes to stop weight loss. There's no magic to this, to stop weight loss, eat more. And do not rely on "chicken" which for some reason is what most people start eating. Chicken does not put weight on. Carbs and fat are better, above all else boost calories.

[PinkDaisy]

9 days isn't great, but the good news is it is likely just a one-off and will be back to 10-11 in upcoming months.

Drop fiber if using it.

Add in a serving of full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week,a nd a serving of salmon if you like it, red meat if you don't, every week.

and do WHATEVER it takes to stop weight loss. There's no magic to this, to stop weight loss, eat more. And do not rely on "chicken" which for some reason is what most people start eating. Chicken does not put weight on. Carbs and fat are better, above all else boost calories.

Thanks for the advice! I'll try adding in the eggs...always limited them due to protein. I find myself eating Lots of carbs and snack foods....crackers, pretzels, goldfish, riice cakes, pirate booty, occasional bagels and cream cheese. I probably have chicken or turkey once a week as a meal and make veggie burgers when my kids eat other stuff, but I will pick at their food here and there. I don't take fiber supps but will have high fiber wraps a few times a week.

As far as the 9'day lp. Something weird happened, 2 days after my period ended I started to bleed again. I guess this is day 9 of my cycle. All in all I don't think my period was as heavy as it usually was so I started to panic that maybe I was pregnant and didn't know it....but took a test and nothing. Any idea why I would start spotting now?

[atomic sagebrush]

Sometimes that happens. Your lining didn't all slough off so then it came off at the first available opportunity.

It's actually a pattern that some women have normally - bleed for a few days, then it stops then a couple more days.

[PinkDaisy]

Thanks! I'm definitely eating more. Still staying mostly without meat, but so many carbs. Today I had some corn beef for st. Patty's day. And on weekends when we are at events I find myself eating a meal that lasts 2-3 hours. With all my eating I think I've put on a few pounds...hope this is what my body needs without being boy friendly. This is kind of how I got my 2nd boy though...loosing too much weight then quickly adding some on.
I'm on day 12 and hoping for a more normal ovulation this time around. I'm starting to do opk and noticed some cm today. What is the suggestion for antihistamine if I begin noticing too much? Any other suggestions for my situation? Thanks again!

[atomic sagebrush]

antihistamines haven't worked, with the same number of people getting girls with and without them.

If you want to use them as rescue method, you can use 1 cetirizine (zyrtec) 6 hours before you plan to attempt.