My boy sway in 2019

[Twogirls0607]

So this is where i will post everything about my sway. Since i have threads about few issues, i hope here will be everything, if i forget something i will update.

I have 28 years (today is my birthday haha) and mh is 31 (32nd birthday in march). My daughters are 2 and 4 yr old. With them i was working, my body was exhausted, didnt exercise, no vitamins, no breakfast. We abstained 7+ days and only dtd once. First one was planned, around ovulation, after positive opk, second one wasnt planned and we conceived again from only one attempt but dont know when o was.

I still have about 5kg from second pregnancy, i was before very tiny, 47-50kg and now i have around 55.

We are now on pause ttc because my cycles are messed up with escapelle pill (took it in may last year), so i have bleeding to 14 days, my ovulation goes to 22day. Now its a bit better, o seems to be on 16-18 day but i will see what is going on in a few cycles, atomic said it should work by itself. My bleeding is still long- about 9-10 days. And i have spotting in middle of cycle (not ovulation spotting tho)

So i will write about how my diet and everything was before this pause and we will continue that way about 2 months prior to ttc.

I started eating breakfast, cereal, toast, eggs, but mostly cereal with fullfat milk. I have fruits few times a day. Meat and vegetable, bread, salad, sandwich, soups, alkaline water, lemon water, apple and orange juice, snacks, potatoes every single day. Very rich meals with all kinds of meat. Mostly red meat (young beef) pork, chicken, once a week fish. I tried to stay away from chocolate, sugar (only in cofee) all kinds of sweets, and it was great, i think i had all sugar i need from fruits. I avoided blueberry. I was always eating sweets with my daughters so i wanted to change that. I also ate a lot of dough (all kinds- from makarone, to white bread and rolls ) and i stayed away from that also. So, very healthy diet- no fast food.

My husband changed diet a bit, but he already was eating better than me.

Supps:
What my multivitamin have i will post in picture (hope i will figure it out how)
Besides that i took
1000mg fish oil every other day
From af to o- gelatin drink
Folic acid about 3mg

Dh : zinc complex (with selen, vit c) 15mg
He take sometimes bsd - he take it for nervous stomach
He drinks beer 2-3 times a week. (Is alchohol ok in sway- or drinks with more % of alchohol than beer should be avoided?)
Folic acid around 1mg
Fish oil 1000mg
Vit E 9mg

Dtd- he use to have low libido, but with this supps and diet libido seems to be ok, we plan to dtd every other day or every third day (from af to ovulation) and when i have positive opk to try to follow your recommendation of 3 attempt. We are not sure if we should use protection in days leading to o, or not?

Exercices-weights for 30min every day. I have 1,5 kg weights and doing few more kinds of exercises. Husband same, but not every day (10kgs weights)

If my cycles dont come back how they were i will maybe use clomid. Also to mention, i will measure my bbt, i will take opk tests (monitoring also in case of taking clomid) , i will use preseed (is it safe to put a little bit of baking soda in it?)

I think this is it.

My husbands question- can he take any kind of pills for potency? We have two kinds in our country,one from african plum and another one that i cant find what is made from.

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[Twogirls0607]

My complex of vitaminshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190220/bc571fe7ff9281bcfffa55ac7aaf8b1f.jpg

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[Twogirls0607]

I forgot to add also probiotic. I have to find the best kind for us, but def.will take that. Since my multivitamin have no vitamin D, both of us will include it also

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[atomic sagebrush]

Happy birthday!

Your diet is looking very good to me, keep it up. I would not gain any more weight, just try to stay at the same weight you're at.

Small amounts of alcohol a few times a week are ok for hubby, but even better if he gives it up!

I would like to see you take 2 days off a week on the weights to give your body a rest. WE don't want to take the chance that you end up losing muscle from overtraining.

I would prefer if you don't use baking soda as I think it is extremely harsh to sperm and makes it more likely for you to get yeast and other vaginal infections that could even harm a future pregnancy. It's up to you, I know some people believe it works, but I have seen so many people get months/years of BFN while using it, and also getting girls while using it, it's impossible for me to believe it's doing anything other than causing harm.

I would stay away from African Plum because it blocks testosterone. It's said to help men's performance because some men (usually older men) have such high testosterone it messes up their prostate and can interfere with their sexuality, but I really doubt your husband has any such problem and I don't want to take the chance of lowering testosterone. He can take things that have carnitine and arginine in them, but I can't sign off on the other thing without knowing what it is, of course!

If you believe in timing you would have the earlier attempts with protection. If you don't believe in timing, have them unprotected. Since I don't believe in timing I like to see you guys having unprotected attempts since I believe the hormones in semen may make you more blue friendly. But it's up to you to decide - you should do whatever you feel more comfortable with.

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: those vitamins are fine!

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you, im so glad to read your answer atomic.

He usualy takes few beers and its 2 times a week, maybe 3 if we have guests or something.

Ok, it would be even easier for me with 4 days a week of training.

I believe more and more that bs can mess things up. When we have those attempts in december ttc, i am convinced that we would get pregnant if it wasnt for bsf. I was just affraid for my ph, but it isnt even that low. I guess its not easy to put it out of mind, i was reading for months about bsf and it all seems so easy. I really think its diet and dtd pattern that will work for us. We were very girl friendly with first two kids. That is what i want to change first of all.

Does it really matters that i just cant eat catchup, mayo, mustard, and all that kind of spicy sauses? I like vegetables (there is few that i dont) but those stuff i just cant eat. I tried and i think i just have weird kind of stomach :) i prefer home cooked meals with lot of milk based sauses or chesse, tomato sauses, and cooked vegetables, and meat of course.

I was reading recepies for boy sway and i changed almost every, some stuff throw out and some add in. I hope im not doing it wrong

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[Twogirls0607]

I dont think he needs anything for potency, he is just researching, because last time we were really stressed and its hard for him to dtd (and its hard for me to have o also). That is the only reason, but without that stress he is very potent. Actualy when we are on diet and supps we dtd very much often than before (when we conceived girls), is it diet or hormones that we affect i dont know.

We decided to dtd after af every other day without protection, and around ovulation to try two or three attempts. His ph is 9.

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[atomic sagebrush]

No you don't have to eat any sauces to get a boy! That's fine, and honestly what you eat normally sounds pretty great to me to get a boy!

I know it seems like baking soda is so easy - but if it was that easy we'd all know about it and the doctors would have people use it - it would be a very easy way to do gender swaying, just put sperm in a high pH mix and then do an IUI! But they don't do it because it doens't work.

Yes lots of men can't deal with the stress of swaying and BD! Just try to keep all that to a minimum.

Your BD schedule looks great to me! VEry much the way I got my boys. :)

[Twogirls0607]

That is great, it really makes me feel great about sway. Dh and almost everybody always makes jokes about how i dont eat those kind of stuff in sandwiches for example, mayo and catchup on pizza. I just dont like it, i never ate that in my life. I did try and i dont like that strong taste, but tomato juice for example i can eat in every meal. So that is what i do, i put vegetables in meals in way that i like (steamed veg and meat is my favorite)

I explained mh today about Shettles method and how that is wrong (about who is faster and bigger and smaller). He believed in timing but now we agree its best to do how i planned in sway. We just want everything different than with girls. We were so girlfriendly. :) i will try not to put him in stress.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, that sounds fine - the important part is the meat, veg, and carbs (like bread, noodles, rice) and healthy fats. There is nothing particularly blue friendly about ketchup and mayo.

[Twogirls0607]

Me again :)

Mh desided to exercise, since he is in a good condition at work, he walks about 10km, so he want to add lifting weights. His hight is 183cm and have 86kg. Should he use l arganine and l carnitine and how much? Which one should i order from amazon, if you have any recommendations?

How long can he take those supps? Does he need any pause in taking them?

Atomic, based on my sway , i hope you remmember, if not, i wrote everything in previous posts, what should i order from you? If my diet is good, then what else can i do to improve my sway? Can you help me with choise?

Sorry for my english, i hope you understand and i apriciate any answer.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'd have him take 500 mg carnitine and 1000 mg arginine.

I don't recommend brands. There are too many and they are changing all the time and I could not possibly keep up on all of them from day to day.

He can take them indefinitely.

Diet, taking the supplements (I think we've talked about these already, right?) and doing weights can really help. Also try to get enough sleep.

I'm not quite following your question on what you should order from me?

[Twogirls0607]

Oh im sorry for confusion, i meant for diet plans, TTC Blue Gender Swaying Plan Immediate Download for example, i think im doing good here with my sway, its just i have doubts sometimes, and i want to be sure im not missing anything. Do you recommend that for me or something else?

Its not just about 21day meals recepies, because i dont know if i can adjust that to cousine from my region, and i just use your advices about food, and i think is pretty good. I would like to read your esay in that swaing program, just to make sure im on right path.

I found on amazon few kinds od arginine and carnitine, so ill be ordering that as soon as i finish things with my bank account. So i understood you right, he can take it with no pause and for as long as he want? Should i take any of that?

Dont know if this info means something to you, but since mh is taking supps every day he somehow is having higher libido, and higher amount of sperm. Sorry for tmi.

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[Twogirls0607]

I have some products found on ebay and in my country, so if you atomic can take a look and tell me if it is ok. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190408/2526a05e3f441b3cd4009e60b7b50168.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190408/9dae23c76674e99a2e6ad37f8958d1b0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190408/748227f2f73a00ba0865e844d917c3d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190408/6961a501a071e9cb217c308d19c96be1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190408/820ff1298426019f353d6e332cae66d9.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

If you want a plan then you'd get a personalized plan (that's the plan I make for you, and comes with the coaching) rather than the immediate download (which is a generic readymade plan without the coaching)

You don't have to get the 21 day diet. Just get the plan (it's cheaper) and then I'll help you with your diet in an ongoing fashion.

No we don't want you to take the carnitine and arginine, they may mess up your cycle and stop your ovulation.

Hubbies often have higher sex drive when they go onto supplements! :agree: good sign!

I'll look at the supplements and see if they are ok. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Any of them are fine. I feel the Twin Lab brand is more well known and trusted so I'd go with that one.

Since the arginine is 1000 instead of 500 let's have him take that every other say.

Yes that's the right Preseed!

[Twogirls0607]

Oh thank you so much! I want that kind of plan, so i just need to workout with my bank and i will let you know when i can order it. How much that would cost? Do we make contact on email or here on forum? So excited!

I have to wait few weeks for stuff that i order from ebay. I think we will ttc in late summer, so i have time to prepare everything.



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[atomic sagebrush]

It's $99 USD and I see it comes with the diet book now anyway!

You'll get your own forum that only you and I can see!!

[Twogirls0607]

I from us again! Mh bought l-arganine and l-carnitine. I just want to be sure that thesse are ok for him! He is starting strenght training and he diet.

I will send you pictures so you can read about them. When you have time i apriciate your answer.

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[Twogirls0607]

L-carnitine is this one, 500mg. So he should take 1 capsule a day, is this correct?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/4ff1135846e9c0443166488912c34ed8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/d7c06a1588642f307259a05528432e46.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/c0e31c16283ce43e809e96ef253d6ed6.jpg

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[Twogirls0607]

Arginine is this one, twinlab product, also 500mg per capsule. It also said he should take 1 per day. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/ddfd499b1e75caf555db8324e3772140.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/a0cfcf211269996180e7e22e6c14a757.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes those are both fine!! 1 a day on the arginine, up to 2 a day on the carnitine

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you! He is taking for few days now, slowly start training.

This cycle i had ovulation on 15th day. Bleeding and everything is going back to normal, finaly 1 year after escapelle.

Still im not sure if i should take clomid.

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[atomic sagebrush]

If things are back to normal, you don't need it! Totally up to you!

[Twogirls0607]

Again me with doubts :) so, my cycles are pretty much ok, i just cant pinpoint my o day , just watching for symptoms. No pain, twinges, bloating, like nothing is happening. Im not using opks and bt now.

I lost few kg in last few weeks and i think that put my cycles on right place (im currently no swaying) .

I am still thinkig about clomid. But im affraid it will be harmfull for my body. Does that happens in 50mg doses? Can it mess up bad or make cyst at 50mg? What time do you suggest, i mean days when to take it? My dr saids 3-7 or 2-6 to make good follicles from both sides.

Im so stressed about this. Even twin pregnancy would be fine i just hope that i dont mess things up.

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[atomic sagebrush]

It's ok. No one can pinpoint their O day! It has been shown in studies that even using every method, trained experts can't pin down O day any closer than 1 out of 3 days.

Clomid + blue sway will still sway blue. It is only Clomid + a pink sway that is very girl friendly. On its own Clomid sways about 3-5% pink, scientists believe.

I usually have people take the Clomid CD 3-7 (well, I advise them to do that in cooperation with their doctor!) But some docs prefer 2-6. I feel we have better conception rates on 3-7.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you!. And what about cysts? Do i have to be afraid of that? Im aware that this is low dose but still, i always read whole internet before taking any medications :)

I have question about mh too(sorry if we are boring- only here we can find real info)
He is currently taking multivitamin (picture above in first posts), arginine and carnitine. We are planning to sway in a few months- sept,october-im not sure. Is it better for sway if he takes a pause in taking those , or continue taking the whole time without pause?

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[atomic sagebrush]

It's possible but rare to get cysts on Clomid.

I want him taking them all along. They're safe to take indefinitely and it likely helps over time.

[Twogirls0607]

Oh great! I was thinking the same. We are very gratefull for your answers atomic.

So im sorry if i bother sometimes, im in this sway story year and a half and im still missing informations, so im trying to read as much as possible until we ttc.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm happy to help! Ask as many questions as you need!

[Twogirls0607]

Dont know if you remmember from my previous posts. I will write again- few cycles after i took escapelle, i also started drinking green tea. Suddenly my ovulation was prolonged to 20-22 cd. I consulted with you and we stop drinking green tea, thinking that was the reason. Well the problem continued for 6 montha or so, so now i realise it was escapelle, messed up cycle, so im wondering if i should try again with green tea, and cut out coffee from diet.

How long we have to take probiotic, 6weeks prior to attempt or?

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[atomic sagebrush]

No I want you to stay off the green tea.

Can you drink black tea instead? Better option than green tea or coffee in this scenario

Probiotic as far in advance as is feasible.

[Twogirls0607]

Ok, that just crossed my mind, few days ago i drank one cup with friend so i was wondering , maybe it will be ok, since i read a lot about green tea and wonders for body. Do you think estrogen in it might be a problem?

I think i will stay with one cup of coffee per day.

Can you tell me is this enough vitamin d3 for me and my husband- i found tablets of 10mcg (400IU). On pack it saids that is for adults.

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[Twogirls0607]

Or maybe this one?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190605/b003511eb23f82449bfe6774cccab5c9.jpg

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[atomic sagebrush]

One cup is no big deal but whenever someone has had a history of a disrupted cycle (even if not caused by green tea) I like you to skip it.

I like you guys to take closer to 1000 IU so that would be two of those. But if you're getting Vit. D from a multivitamin you would not need to take that much. Just in the neighborhood of 1000 total IU

[Twogirls0607]

In our multivitamin we have d-biotin only, which i read helps with vitamin d absorbtion. I guess from food and sun, but in multivitamin we dont have vitamin d. Is that the same as vitamin d3?

Which method do you prefer in our situation- for bd? I cant decide between eod or smep. I mean its similar and both better than how we conceive our girls, but i wonder should we bd after o days? And if we do eod, isnt that too much if i get pos opk in between and that would mean few days of bding?

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[atomic sagebrush]

d3 is the best absorbed form of D.

I don't want anyone to do eod for boys. That can end up being one attempt in the fertile window! Either do regular BD every 2-4 days with the 3 attempts in the fertile window, or SMEP. No EOD.

[Twogirls0607]

I didnt write down right, with eod method i thought this way- eod with db on pos opk and next day. for example cd 8-10-12-14-16-18 and if i have pos opk on cd 15 we bd then 8-10-12-14-15-16-18. Twice on cd16 (morning and night).

Thats why i thought that is too much.

I was thinking maybe my vag. ph or generally environment would be better (bd with no protection) with eod- with bd more often.

Sorry for my english

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[atomic sagebrush]

As long as you're still having the 3 attempts in the fertile window that is fine (if DH can keep up with it.)

Some people do ONLY the every other day for blue without the 3 attempts.

The only thing to worry about with EOD is that DH won't be able to have the 3 attempts in the fertile window. If he can, that's great, and EOD will only help sway blue.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you for answers.


I will write down few more things, just to update my sway, so when you can, give me your thoughts about it.

I wrote wrong my height, its 162 cm and my bmi is now 21.9. My husbands bmi is 26.2. Should i be concern? He is muscular, only he have little fat on his tummy but most of the time he is just bloated. With arginine and carnitine and multivitamin (for now- in a few weeks we will add rest of the supps) he feels very good and he have weight traning.

I also have a little fat on tummy (after pregnancy it cant go away) but i keep up with trainings.

What do you think about peruvian maca? I read a lot but i dont know which kind to buy or even should i use it.

I am a bit worried about moon, it will not be full in my predicted (by application) o days.



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[atomic sagebrush]

Hey my husband and I got boys (except the first one!) with fat on our tummies. :)

I am not a fan of maca. It has mixed evidence about how it sways, and we have had some strange experiences with it.

The apps are not always accurate. I don't think the moon does anything at all beneficial for swaying anyway.

[Twogirls0607]

That is great to hear (read) :)

We are drinking alkaline water and its ph is 8.8. I heard is good for organism, and this one is the healthiest water in our region. But i also drink lemon water (just lemon and water) but then its ph is low. Am i doing something wrong?

Usual water here is about 5-6 ph.

It makes me confused, how can two different drinks (different phs) have the same effect on organism? What of these two should i drink?

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[atomic sagebrush]

It's because the acid-alkaline diets don't really work.

Everything you eat and drink goes down into your stomach where it mixes with stomach acid that has a pH that is super low. Then it goes into your intestines where it's mixed with alkaline fluids your body makes and the pH goes up again.

Nothing you eat and drink affects the pH of your body.

I let you guys do lemon water for people who believe in pH stuff and because drinking water helps you stay hydrated and make lots of EWCM, but I don't believe in it at all. Supposedly the "science" is that some low pH things turn to high pH in your body, but you're quite right that doesn't make any sense.

What is happening with swaying is that high nutrients = more boys. It isn't really pH. A lot of high nutrient foods are high pH, so we can use them for our blue sway, and if you believe in pH or in nutrients, it is all good. :)

[Twogirls0607]

I will continue drinking both, it really makes me feel good, hydrated i guess. I believe only preseed and dh sperm will make ph of my cm higher.

I have to ask you one more thing. I have gyn appointment next week (but i think my cycle will start so i will have to eait a little longer). For two months, my cycles were ok, and bleeding last for 6-7 dayd. I thought great, its al getting back to normal after escapelle (in may 2018). But this one bleeding was for 12 days. Could it be some other reason, looking back my hystory? I read about mioms and cycts, i hope i dont have any of those. But now im stressing about my long bleeding. I cant wait to ask my dr also, but what is your opinion?
My menstrual pain and everything else is like it always was, just this spotting is so terrible.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Bleeding can be caused by anemia, polyps, fibroids, cervical cysts, a few other things like that. They'll run a couple tests to rule those things out. Most likely is just that your cycle was a little strange from the Escappelle (although it has sure taken a long time to run its course).

[Twogirls0607]

I just now read your post! Something went wrong with my internet or something, i didnt saw it until now. Well i had appointment few days ago, but i had to cancel it because my period started that same day, few hours earlier.

Its cycle day 5 now, my bleeding stopped yesterday, there was only few light brown drops and now i am bleeding again. Bright red. Im going crazy about this!

It looks like two periods. First one comes on time, lasts 4-5 days (usualy it was 6) then stops for one day(and when its that pause i have insane headache). Then starts again but its not that heavy. That lasts for few more days.

So i have bleeding for 10-12 days. My next app at dr is in a month and half, i will go insane.

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[Twogirls0607]

We are starting with diet in a few days, but i am very worried now about this.

I think i have ovulation, but can everything be alright later in pregnancy since my hormones are this messed up..

I will know more after visiting dr but im worried i cant help it.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I really think you need to see the doc about this. Don't worry, but do get it checked. It is most likely nothing, and even if it isn't, it's very likely easy to fix, but I think it's important to rule out rare issues that could lower your chance of conceiving.

[Twogirls0607]

I will try to go to private dr (i tried to avoid this because its expensive- and for free option i need to wait) but i will pay, i will calm my mind.

Is papa test, colonoscopy, ultrasound, manual exam and examination of my c mucus enough to discover the problem?

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[atomic sagebrush]

I think the doctor better determine what tests to run - I just can't be sure.

[Twogirls0607]

I have gyn appt in a month and a half. So i think then it will be my o days, so in a same time i will check if everything is ok on that side. My bleeding lasted 7 days this cycle and now on 14- 15 cd i think i felt ovulation. I hope everything is now back to normal. It all happens when i relaxed and dont think and stress about that.

I ordered preseed but im waiting so long to come to my country. So we decided to try without ordering plan or diet, there is somethin with my internet card and i dont use it now. People here dont buy that often online- especialy overboard so there is always some kind of a problem with money transfers etc. Im sorry atomic i hope you can still help me with your advices. And tell me if i do something wrong.

I wanted to write few meal examples and to check if its ok, and also maybe give someone some idea for meals.

When i wake up i usualy take some cracker, cookie, pretzels

Breakfast: cereals in milk, or sandwich with milk cream (like greek yogurt just have 20% fat), or bell peppers with eggs, or some butter and jelly. Do you think i should replace usual white bread with dark one?

Lunch: i some days make meat and potatoes in owen, and some days i cook vegetables with meat. This is how it looks like(sorry for my english)
Young beef or beef or pork , or ckicken. I usualy bake that in animal (mostly pig fat) fat and put there potatoes and some more veg. With that i eat greek yoghurt or some cream chesse with higher % fat (like 22%)
If i cook i put there all kinds of meat (not in the same lunch lol) and veggs.
We also make homemade pizza, spaghetti, porridge, moussaka (few kinds- all incuding meat and dairy and eggs so potatoes, sometimes rice), homemade soup, meat in combination with chesse, bacon, so, our food is very various.

Dinner: usualy leftovers from lunch. Pancakes, sandwiches, whatever we have in fridge, just make sure that i make combinations of meat/dairy/eggs with bread or rice. We eat also what we call here burek- its combination of like puff dough with meat/chesse.

Snack: i have it anytime of the day between meals, its some crackers, or chips, its both sweet and salty.

Fruits few times a day.

One coffee, alkaline water (im trying these months befor ttc, what is better for my body- alkaline or lemon), fruit juices.

I started driving a car, organizing our expences, and workout 4-5 days a week. Its what you atomic recommended from yt- about 45mins of few kinds of exercises for strength.

So i changed a lot since my dds pregnancies.

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[atomic sagebrush]

OH good I hope everything is back to normal for you now.

Yes I help everyone regardless of whether they buy anything! It sometimes takes me a little longer to get back to people in the free forums, that's all.

White bread - We started off thinking that whole wheat bread was better for blue but that has really not seemed to matter. Most blue swayers eat very little bread anyway to spare calories. I would use whichever you prefer.

Your regular meals all look very good.

One concern I have is that the things like pretzels, chips, cookies, fruit, etc. are high in carbs, low in protein. These are ok sometimes but be sure to eat soon after having them so you don't have a blood sugar crash. And I would like to see you having things like nuts, cheese, yogurt, egg, hummus or other bean dips as snacks instead of the chips/crackers/cookies especially. Junk foods add calories without many nutrients so it's better to "spend" your calories on getting nutrients. They are ok sometimes though.

I prefer lemon water as I am not convinced the pH of water does anything.

I think you're making a lot of great changes to your lifestyle!! Keep up the good work!

[Twogirls0607]

I didnt saw your answer. Just now i see a new post.

Well, i realised that little problem, and for five days already we changed that. I bought some peanuts, almonds, brasilian nut, dry fruits. Should i buy some more- i mean specific kind of nut? Also i make smoothie- i put in blender some water, banana, peaches, apples, carrots, cantaloupe (not all at the same time). I plan to buy few more kinds of fruit, now its season for watermelon, etc. I take that like 15-30min before meals. I feel very good with this dieting, its for 2 weeks now.

I eat chesse- i have here many many kinds- and i look for ones that have high % of fat. I like also yoghurt with nuts. I also started peanut butter, like snack on bread- we never ate that.

Oh yes, about bread- we still eat white ones, but i will try to change that.

What i try to avoid margarines, vegetable oils- like sunflowers which we used a lot (also when having girls), sweets, puddings, i cut down sodas. I try to cut coffee, but i didnt succeeded yet, i drink one cup a day with full fat milk.

I will write down if i remmember something more.

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[Twogirls0607]

I write about fruit, but didnt ask you what i wanted. How much fruit is needed in boy diet? I read somewhere 7/11 , can you help me with that?

We will have unprotected s.x so do i need preseed from af - ovulation, or just when i have peak on lh tests?

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[atomic sagebrush]

At the top of the page there is a bar that reads "Home, Forums, Blogs" and one of them says "My Posts" If you click that you can go to all the posts you wrote and those you replied on. It's a much easier way to navigate back to your old posts.

No those nuts are fine if you like those! Peanuts are my least favorite but they're still good.

:agree: great to eat that fruit!

I also think you're avoiding the right things.

RE servings of fruit - Yes 9-11 servings if you can get that much. IT's a lot, but the serving size are smaller than you think.

Re Preseed - it's up to you. If you think you need lube then use it, if you have natural CM, I'd skip it.

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you atomic.
What do you think about hot showers for wife? My husband dont do that, so just for me? I still use to shower this way, should i avoid that, i mean - shower with colder water?

I add indian nut in my snacks, i really like this part of sway.

Is coq10 required supplement for dh, or it goes with age? I am 28 and dh is 32.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hot showers are fine. Ions are not real. They are bad for men because the heat may harm sperm.

Coq10 is optional. Fine to leave it out!

[Twogirls0607]

Great , thanks. I thought it have something to do with blood pressure or something like that, for woman.

My af started yesterday, on cd30. So i guess its coming back to normal finally. I have appt in a few days so i will update about that.

I wanted to share something. In my country someone misread about aspirine, or purposly write this news:
If you want to conceive baby boy- start taking aspirine! A lot of people is trying it that way [emoji19] like its that hard to google.

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[atomic sagebrush]

There is a study that claims to find that link in women with recurrent miscarriages who take aspirin to prevent miscarriages. But women who have recurrent miscarriages are more likely to have boys to start with because they have heath issues like PCOS that is more likely to end with male conceptions, and additionally the study itself claimed that it was because more boy pregnancies were surviving to be born, not because it was altering the rate of conception any. https://www.jci.org/articles/view/82357

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you for article. People here are very conservative, but they would still like to have desired gender. And when someone find something related to gender swaying they like to make a big deal of it and its usualy not true. Just like folic acid. Its so common to read here that you can conceive twins taking large dose of folic acid/ folate. Its very rare to read a real articles and stydies.

I dont know if i can consider this as problem, i think its just because of dehydration, last few dtd my husbands sperm was very thick and sticky. He takes l carnitine and l arginine from twinlab, complex of vitamins like in posts above, fish oil-omega3, and vitamin d. If tgis continue to happen, should he stop taking something, can this affect my sway.
I find somewhere that this is ok, makes no problem for conceiving but i would like to hear from you. Thank you for answering on every borring question i have. [emoji23]

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[Twogirls0607]

Wanted to update, i was at dr today, my lining on cd 12 is 6.1 mm. Is this ok? Dr saids everything is allright, i done colonoscopy, papa test, ultrasound. I have retroverted uterus, that shouldnt be a problem in boy swaying, right? I totaly forgot to mention that earlier.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I have 4 boys and have a retroverted uterus! :)

Yes that's normal for that stage, they would have told you if there was anythign amiss!

[Twogirls0607]

Hi again :D

Im on diet for 6 weeks now and i gained about 3kgs. Is this ok? I am waiting af in a 4-5 days and that cycle we will ttc- my ovulation will be around sept.4-5.

I have muscles, which i never had before- i mean i can see it, and with dds i was unhealthy skinny- no workouts at all.

I do moderate training for like 45 mins a day- for 5 or 6 days a week. I found joanna soh on youtube- and i do combo of her exercises, with weights, kickbox, and for overall strength.

On my 162 i have 59 kgs now. My body shape changed, and i can still fit in all my clothes. :D i still have a little fat on stomach, but behind that i can feel muscles - which is very unusual to me. I feel different, stronger, and it seems that im a little obsessed with workout now [emoji23] i even go today to buy some more dumbells.

Can you tell me am I doing the right thing about this?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes everything is going well! I would start trying to hold steady where you're at in terms of weight and continue the workouts! Working out is really fun once you get in the habit of it.

[Twogirls0607]

I will try. Its very easy for me to gain weight. [emoji19]

I have one more stuff that is confusing me. I tracked bt this month together with opks. My opk show positive two days in a row (second one was darker)

We will ttc next cycle- so what if i get that same situation? If i get light positive and do attempts , and what if i get the next day darker positive? Continue bd every day ?

Also, i dont have big jump of temperature after pos opk. Its just slow rise. I will add my chart. Thank you in a advance atomic!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Can you tell me what you mean by light positive?? Sometimes people mistake negatives for positives and I want to be sure that's not what you're getting messed up with.

It's not unusual to have a slow rise, it's one variation of normal.

Keep BD every day till you're sure ovulation has happened, if at all possible.

[Twogirls0607]

It goes two days in a row of positives. First one is as dark as control line. Next day is darker and thats it for most of time, but i think i had one cycle with 3 days in a row- as dark as control- darker that control line - as dark as control line.

So i planned this way- when i get positive- bd that night- next morning (i hope we will menage to do) and night also. Before that bd at night i will test again (i test around 5pm) , if i get positive we will bd next night also. And continue to until negative opk. This is what you suggest?

I hope you understand my english [emoji6]

Good news for slow rising. I thought i am doing something wrong. But im very correct with measuring and always at same time. I got some advice that what i do is not good enough, and that i need bt digitall thermomether. I have old fashioned one with gallium, but very correct (to my kids also) .

If you have time to answer all my questions i would like to know how much coconut water blue swayers drink per day? Its very expensive in my country, so i can add it for 2 weeks - af to o- and amount in one package is about 300ml. I was thinking to spread that for 2 days.

Are thesse fruits ok eating daily- raspberry- or cherry or grapes (handfull), blueberry(handfull), banana (1 or 2), apple( 1), peaches (1 or 2) , pears or plums (1) . I put some of it in shakes but this is the amount.

I eat more fruits than veggies and that is why im little stressed about. I can eat bell peper few times a week, onion once a day in meal, tomato only in juice about 3 times a week, potatoes once a day, carrot once a day. I eat beans twice a week. And two more ineat 2 times a wek but i cant remmember name on english now.

Meat is always with some veggetables.

I think im doing pretty good- just wonder if i can do something more.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok then that's def. positive by the sound of it. I want you to start having attempts at the FIRST positive even if it gets darker later on.

So: night of first positive, again the next morning if possible, again that same night if hubby can, then again the next night. Even if the test has gone negative. The time when the test goes negative doesn't matter, it doesn't tell you if you've ovulated or not.

Then after that you can go to every other day because ovualtion has probably happened. IF hubby can keep going with daily attempts, daily is great, but if he can't at that point do EOD.

The coconut water is not important if it is expensive! Just skip it. Have tomato juice instead. The only reason I include it is to keep people from taking potassium supplements, but tomato juice is a fine way of getting potassium.

Yes those fruits are fantastic. Keep it up!

Fruit is very good for blue! No problem if you have more fruit (unless you're gaining weight too quickly.)

I also think you're doing very well! Keep up the good work!

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you! I know maybe im too obsessed with dieting and everything, i hope that i dont stress to much. I planned every single thing i can control. Now my ovulation this cycle was again on cd 18-19. But lutheal phase is 14-15 days so i think that is fine.

Since i have retroverted uterus, and so do you if i read correctly, what pose do you suggest? We were spooning lately [emoji16] but i think that is not deep enough (sorry for tmi) . i somewhere read its great for concepcion misionary pose with pilow under my butt.

One more thing that is concerning me is that i had 2 days of cheating with diet. Meaning i eat only protein and smaller amount and fewer servings of fruit. I just had to make a pause.

I think i wrote it, we decided to go without protection from af. Can you tell me is higher percent of success this way, or unprotected only after pos opk? For me its more logical that i will have more friendly enviroment without protection.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's fine to have O on that day with a 14 day LP. Totally in normal range.

Yes I do! So bad it actually interfered with my bladder during pregnancy! But never stopped me from conceiving boys, that's for sure. :) I suggest either missionary or doggy. Be sure to lay part of the time on your stomach as that's helped a few people who seemed to be having trouble conceiving (even though retroverted uterus is not supposed to prevent conception)

2 days of "cheating" (eating less fruit is not cheating!) is fine. No worries.

I don't have the data I need to prove this but I believe it is your best chance of blue to have unprotected sex all through the cycle. It's shown to boost fertility to do this and everything that boosts fertility seems to sway blue. And theoretically exposure to semen should "tell" your body that a boy has a better chance than a girl. But I can't keep track of those types of things since many people's husbands can't have sex that often and so it wrecks the statistics.

[Twogirls0607]

I thought that was it- but no one told me, before my new gynecologist, few weeks ago. I know my uterus is heart shaped, and because of that i had realy hard first natural birth and csection for second child. They find hard to turn head down at delivery. I have back pains at af also and my dr finaly told me its retroverted.

It wasnt problem for conceiving with girls- first month. And with second daughter we had sex only one time in 2 months. (No wonder that she is she [emoji23])

You really given me hope that i can have boy. [emoji120]

Dh decided to spend money on whatever food and drinks i need, so i will use coconut water. I spread pack of 300ml to two days.

As for my later ovulation- that also i take for different than with my daughters, because with them my ovulation was usualy at cd 12-13-14. I think my weight now also have to do something with ov little later in cycle.

Oh, i forgot to take probiotics. [emoji19] today i saw in my book where i write plans. Is it too late? Im on cd2 today.. We do drink a lot of yoghurts but maybe that isnt enough.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh yes heart shaped uterus can definitely be a problem, but retroverted shouldn't be.

Please do start the probiotics now! No such thing as too late.

[Twogirls0607]

Problems with giving birth, that is what you mean? Or problem for swaying boy with heartshaped uterus. Sorry if i misunderstood.

Ok, we will both tommorow start with probiotics. Trey are quite expensive, but i hope i will conceive fast. [emoji120]

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[Twogirls0607]

Oh i have another question. I noticed since im on diet- my husband also- we have higher blood pressure.

I had very low blood pressure in previous pregnancies and in between.

Is this good? I think its because we have always 3 meals (if i am up longer i have 4meals)and snacks in between so im never hungry. And food is salty. Not too much, but still salty. Maybe i was hungry like 3 or 4 times since i started diet.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes for getting/staying pregnant. It doesn't sway and the only other clients I've had were both boy moms.

How much higher?

[Twogirls0607]

I am confused now. You mean heart shaped uterus can be a problem for getting and staying pregnant? My dr told me mine have that shape before 2nd pregnancy, but dr now told me just that is retroverted. I think i dont have barriers in uterus, i heard that problem also can be if there are barriers.

The lowest i got in pregnancy was 60/90, but i think it was higher, i measured it only when i felt bad and dizzy. Normal was 70/110 and now is 80-90/130. I have also more strength and dont feel week like i used to.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, for some people. But this doesn't mean it will be for you. I was just trying to explain what I was saying before.

It is slightly high, I think the highest most doctors like to see is 120 over 80. When was it being tested?

[Twogirls0607]

I measured it at my parents home, they have small digitall device,that goes on my wrist, and for what i read can show slightly higher result for blood pressure.

I think drs in my country tolerate 80/120 also. I think mine is right there, sometimes maybe goes a little higher, but i feel good, unlike before, when it was really low, i was underweight and hardly have 2 meals a day. This is good sign right?

English is my second language so i am sorry for confusion, it takes some time until i realise what you or anybody on forum wanted to say(write).

I really apreciate your enthusiasm and patience for answering all my doubts.

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[Twogirls0607]

Oh sorry i read where, instead of when. It was about 5pm. I did it for two days, almost same result.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh yes I've heard those aren't very accurate. But yes if you feel better then it's great! I really doubt a young woman who has always been thin would have high blood pressure.

It's my pleasure! I know it's a challenge with the language barrier but as long as we work together to understand that is all good! :)

[Twogirls0607]

Hi, we are going eod in this cycle until i see pos opk. Hope in a week,now is cd 11.

We had little problem, and found out that my daughter have mycroscopic hematuria, and have that gene from me. So, my analysis are not perfect, i have higher erythrocytes in urine. My mom also. Its totally benign. We were stressed about it for two days until realised what is problem. And i ate less also. Skipped few snackes and one meal.

Do you know something about it atomic, how will all of that affect my sway?

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[atomic sagebrush]

It won't affect your sway. Skipping the occasional snacks and a meal is something we all do from time to time, I sure did and I had boys! I'm so glad she is ok. :heart:

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you atomic. The thing is, if we werent sent to do that urine analysis, we wouldnt even know about that. I have 29 years and didnt know i have it too. But her pediatrician (her dr) pannicked and we got really scared. So, it all went well, but it was stresfull for 2 days, while we were waiting for results.

I got yesterday peak on opk, at 1 pm and we dtd at 6pm. Is this ok? With two very active kids its so hard to find time (and place). We couldnt do this morning (dh is very stressed) so we will i guess this afternoon. So does this sound ok- 5 hrs after positive opk, and 24 hrs after positive opk? We will again next night ,and continue eod, so basicly it will be 3 days in a row, but not twice a day. Before that we did eod- from af- cd4-6-8-10-12.Did we messed things up?

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[Twogirls0607]

Oh and another thing- i work out about 5 days a week- 40-50mins. But i skipped two days, because i had cramps (before ovulation ) so i really couldnt do it. I plan to continue today or tommorow, i guess its no big deal skip few days, but want to be sure.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh yes I bet it was! But I'm so glad you found out everything is ok.

Yes it's fine to get a positive OPK and then BD that night. Yor CD 12 attempt also counts in the mix so you are definitely in with 3 attempts, possibly 4. The two attempts in one day is just in case people can manage it. You are doing exactly what most of us with boys did.

No worries about skipping the exercise! It is fine to have a day or two off now and then.

[Twogirls0607]

Oh that is great! I didnt count cd 12, i thought that swimmers cant take that long.

So this is the case-
Attempt cd12
Cd 14 (positive opk) attempt about 6hrs later
Cd 15 (neg opk) attempt about 30hrs after pos opk
Cd 16 (tommorow) at night

Gosh i hope we did it right. I used preseed only on cd 14, 1ml, dh had trouble cuz it was too slippery. So cd 15 only ewcm. I dont have it like i can hold it and strech it, but i am really wet at attempt. Hope that is ok. [emoji120]

Thank you so much for imput.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's ok. Many of us never see that stretchy EWCM.

I think that would be 3 attempts, CD 12, 14, 15. 16 is ~probably~ too late but good to have attempt anyway because by that point the CD 12 attempt would be gone.

WE have had that trouble with Preseed. Just use less next time or none at all if you prefer

[Twogirls0607]

Dh got a offer for new job so he was gone all cd16, and we couldnt dtd. I hope now that attempt at cd 12, 14 and 15 are enough. On cd 16 i already at 6am had temp rise (i have slow rising but obviously higher temps after o). Today was also high, so i suppose that ovulation occured on cd 15.

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[atomic sagebrush]

That is most likely although we can't be sure till your period comes (and often not even then).

Good luck and blue dust!

[Twogirls0607]

Update from me: still waiting for 14dpo (maybe 12) to test. I got on cd5 little dip on my temperature chart, but i guess it can happen in a nonpregnancy chart also.

I feel bad and cramping for few days already. And also think its too early.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hey, the worst cramping I ever had in my life was in early pregnancy with my 4th boy!! Many times people have been sure AF was on the way only to be looking at that BFP! :)

[Twogirls0607]

Update.

Well today is 7-8 dpo and i tested negative. Way too early i know, i couldnt resist.

What is different than any other cycle is :

Temp dip at 5dpo and goes back next day.

Really stuffy nose- i have to take nosedrops, i cant breathe without it. In previous pregnancy i also took it, dr knew, and said that cant harm- only thing that can be bad is if i have difficulty breathing and than baby can have lower amounts of oxygen.

Cramps, from 3dpo, and yesterday and today they werent so often and painfull.

I am so excited, and still have hope, even after neg.test [emoji120][emoji6]

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[Twogirls0607]

This is my chart. Note- my o didnt happen on same day as pos opk (like on chart). It happened on cd 15-16, so i count today 7-8 dpo.

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[Twogirls0607]

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[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck and blue dust headed your way!

[Twogirls0607]

I think i see a positive line today at 10dpo. Still early but there is a very faint line, and so much hope!

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[atomic sagebrush]

aaaa good luck sooo excited!! Sending sooo much blue dust your way!

[Twogirls0607]

Thank you! I wanted to write that we are so excited that we conceived very first month!

Today at 13/14dpo i got solid positive. Symptoms are way to obvious even without test. So different than with my girls, maybe there is some corelation. [emoji120]

Thank you for all that blue dust, i really need it. We will do some kind of non invasive prenatal testing so i will update.

Thank you for all your advices atomic.

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[Twogirls0607]

Oh i forgot to ask you something.

Do you suggest for me to stop taking some of those supps?

Multivitamin and additional (2500mcg) i will def take at first trimester, but im not sure about vit D and omega3 fish oil.

I would apriciate if you write me how should husband and i wean of these supps (he also takes arginine and carnitine) .

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[atomic sagebrush]

Huge congrats! Symptoms don't predict gender, but we sure do hope blue for you!!

I like you to keep going with the Vitamin D. As long as you're taking about 1000 IU that is safe during pregnancy.

What do you mean by additional 2500 mcg?? Folic acid?

How much fish oil??

To wean off supplements just gradually space the doses further and further apart till down to one per week, then you can drop them. :)

[Twogirls0607]

Oh ok, i thought that i have to stop with D. Yes, i take multivitamin that have 150mcg of folic acid. So im taking additional 2500mcg, 2,5 mg.

Fish oil is 1000mg and i take it every other day.

Thank you!

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[atomic sagebrush]

I would continue the folic acid till the end of the first trimester (so 10-12 week mark) and then start gradually spacing doses further and further apart till down to the amount in the prenatal alone.

I would wean off that fish oil and switch to a lower dose DHA (like 250) designed for pregnancy. YOu wean off that the same way, just take it further and further apart till down to one per week. I would do that fairly gradually as you don't want your blood to go from thin (fish oil thins the blood somewhat) to clotting too easily, which can happen if you wean off too fast.