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archies
April 1st, 2019, 01:55 AM
TTC a BOY Sway Attempt
Gender Result:
Unknown
DW Age:
34
DH Age:
32
Current Children's Gender(s)
girl, girl
Number of Months TTC
1
Did you purchase and follow a GD Personalized Plan?
No
MINERALS
Calcium Intake(Please describe)
200-400mg
Magnesium Intake(Please describe)
little
Potassium Intake(Please describe)
1000mg
Sodium Intake(Please describe)
?
SUPPLEMENTS USED
DW Supplements Vitamin E
Folic Acid
Vitamin B12
Zinc
DH Supplements Multi-vitamin
Any additional supplement info?
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DIET
Did you follow a diet plan?
No
If yes to diet, which one did you most follow? No Diet Plan
Comments regarding DW's diet changes-
Wife wants to diet on high protein and no carb diet. Not for swaying reasons just to lose weight
If diet was used, length of time before attempt?
1 month
Did you skip breakfast regularly?
No
Did DH change his diet with you?
-
Comments regarding DH's diet-
Lots of meat, no breakfast or little.
DId you consume alcohol? A couple of drinks per week
No
DId you try to limit caffeine?
No, I did not factor that into my sway
Any Diet Details?
-
Any Diet Comments/Additional Info?
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WEIGHT AND EXERCISE
What did you weigh/BMI do leading up to O?
175
Any Weight/Exercise related additional info/comments?
Wife just started Yoga. She is fit but still has just a little bit of baby weight left from last baby.
THINGS in VG and CONCEPTION DATE(CD) INFO
pH Before Starting a Sway Program, if known
?
Any VG potions used?
-
CM pH at attempt
?
DH pH
?
THE DEED INFO
How many BD attempts did you make for the BFP cycle?
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BD Pattern Abstained
BD Dates according to Ovulation
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BD Position
Missionary
Any additional comments?
-
Any relevant attempt details?
We plan on starting May 2019
Did you do anything with Ions?
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Moon Phase during conception?
New Moon
Did you use any Old Wives Tales?
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Things that make me feel great about my sway:
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Things that make me nervous about my sway:
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Things worth mentioning:
My wife will not sway much for diet, I plan on buying boy friendly foods. She will take supplements that I suggest.
I the husband am more interested in swaying blue. My wife does not care which gender we get but she would like to have a boy I know someday.
She takes "Baby and Me 2" multivit and 1000mg Vit C each day. I plan on adding 1000 Fish oil with Omega and possibly COQ10 to her supplements. I too plan on taking Fish oil and Coq10 also.
My wife is currently breastfeeding our 20 Month old 2 to 3 times a day. Her periods started 6 Months ago and are relatively timed even apart from each month.
atomic sagebrush
April 3rd, 2019, 06:46 PM
Are you pregnant yet or is this your planned sway?
archies
April 4th, 2019, 01:05 AM
Hi, Thanks for getting back to me. Im the husband, we are going to start trying in May. My wife takes "Baby and Me Mulit 2" (which has no calcium or magnesium) Vitamin and sometimes 1000 mg C vitamin supplements. She is not over weight but would like to lose a few pounds and started a high protein no sugar/carb diet just to lose weight...Not to sway though. I didnt know if that was a good idea or not and if it would effect swaying.
I had typed out a lot more info about my wife and I for you but didnt want to take up to much of your time. I dont know who else to talk to about this and the internet is full of random info but it seems like your the only one who has a lot of knowledge about swaying.
I have read this article a handful of times...have you seen it before? I wanted to get your opinion on it.
http://www.ingender.com/Gender-Swaying/gender-swaying.pdf
Thanks!
atomic sagebrush
April 4th, 2019, 01:21 PM
Hi again! No it's fine please hit me with your information, I will answer all questions asked (even long ones, altho they sometimes take me a bit longer)
The Baby and Me 2 is a good multi. I do not want her adding Vit. C onto that. 1000 mg Vit C is the amount that some people take to induce a miscarriage (when they don't want to be pregnant, if you catch my meaning) and additionally, some people believe that high dose C sways pink.
While it's fine for her to go lower carb, overall we've found that a balanced diet with all the food groups does tend to more reliably sway blue. Protein and fat helps a blue sway, but if you add in some healthy carbs like fruit, veg, whole grains it will keep blood sugar up and that helps a blue sway. I would also suggest adding in some weight training if she's willing.
Weight loss generally we believe to sway pink so I'd have her try to hold steady where she is at all possible. No need to gain weight, just keeping stable is great.
Yes I was on Ingender for 2 years alongside Tamara before I had the opportunity to come up with more scientifically-based methods of swaying. Much of what is on IG is disproven, debunked, and even dangerous. Timing and pH have gobs of information out there that show pretty clearly they don't work, and the mineral diet is all but debunked.
What does seem to sway blue is improving your overall health and fertility, keeping blood sugar in a normal range, and getting sperm numbers up (both before and during your attempts.) We have ways to do all these things that are safe and sane and don't reduce odds of conception the way that the Ingender methods do. I'd love to help, so please don't hesitate to hit me up with your info.
archies
April 5th, 2019, 01:25 AM
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and review any concerns. I have not given her an Vitamin C in a week. I think she took it for a week or 2 only. But she will defiantly stop I had no idea vit C did that.
I usually always a mulit vit, right now I just started "GNC Mega Men Multivitamin for Men" and this week I have been taking Coq10 200 mg, Fish oil with omega 3 1000 mg, Vit C 1000, and American Ginseng 500 mg. I only started mixing all those starting this this Monday. I'm wondering if its over kill...
I am willing to get my sperm count up any way I can. I thought some of those vitamins would help with motility, volume and quality according to the IG sway link. My volume is fine and I have no reason to believe anything is wrong. On a personal note I think I have a little bit of testicular torsion in one testi that comes and goes that started after my last girl was born. I read that it MIGHT or COULD effect sperm quality or cause infertility. If I dont ejaculate in 3 or 4 days I start to feel a slight dull pain. (sorry if that's too much info)
My wife does have a good diet and eats very balanced, she makes healthy meals for our girls and she eats what they eat...Fruits, Veggies, meats ect. I too try to eat good but have a sweet tooth, more than my wife does. She does LOVE Coffee and has 2 to 3 cups a day. Mostly in the morning until noon but might grab and extra one at the coffee shop if she feels like it. I only drink coffee on occasion and we both drink alcohol on occasion. Neither of us smoke.
When we had our 1st girl (who is 3 1/2 years old) we waited until my wife just started to ovulate according to the ovulation test...it gives you a day or 2 notice just before you actually ovulate. It took 3 months of trying, I'd say we had sex 2 to 3 times within that small window each month. Sex position was laying on our side. With our second daughter, I had just read Dr Shettles book and he said to have intercourse as close to Ovuation as possible, right before or on the O day because the Y sperm swim better in high PH levels and a better change of getting to the egg. This also took 3 months of trying right on the O day. Sex possession was doggy style like Dr Shettles suggested and had sex twice..(oh the 2nd time was missionary) and we got another beautiful girl (who is now 20 Months old)
Recently I've read having sex with the girl on top for a boy since the Y sperm might swim better going UP than X sperm. And to have Sex a lot just before and on O day according to some the info on the gender dreaming site I think I read. Such as 8 to 7 days of sex leading to O day and doing it twice on O day. To keep a high sperm count and high Ph leading to O Day.
My last daughter is 20 months old and still breastfeeds a little maybe once or twice a day and I feel like she will stop pretty soon. I read that swaying while breastfeeding was not recommended since her Ovulation timing could change month to month. My wife started her Periods in August 2018 and I have been keeping track of them closely. She has had a period every month since then but not being in a perfect pattern until recently...Except for Last month she was late and this month has been late too. My daughter got sick last month and breastfed a lot, I think that's why. I don't know if Timing was extremely important or not, I keep reading that it is for gender swaying.
I lift weights twice a week and my wife just joined a yoga class (once a week for an hour) starting a few weeks ago. (I will try to get her to strength train like you suggested) We are all happy and really blessed to have such a beautiful family. I am willing to just about anything to have a son. My wife would like to have a son but I don't think she will go the lengths that I would. My wife just became a certified doula and help new mothers before and during labor. We would like to at least have 2 more babies before we are done. I hope that our age doesn't effect us from doing that or cause any problems..I dont think it would since we are both healthy and have no history of genetic problems even in our family history.
Also I dont know if this matters but when we FIRST got pregnant it ended in a miscarriage and we only know about the pregnancy for 2 weeks...so it ended quickly. We used ovulation test back then for that first pregnancy too and had sex with her on top to conceive.
We got pregnant that next month with our first daughter.
Thank you for taking the time to read this, I dont talk about these things to anyone. I hope I didnt ramble on...I'm glad you replied since I've read many of your posts and you seem extremely knowledgeable, understanding and down to earth.
PS I keep track of my wifes cycles on my phone with an app. I tried to upload them here if would help any. (Her period is late few days late as of April 4th)
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atomic sagebrush
April 5th, 2019, 06:20 PM
I just wanted to let you know I've seen this but it's at the end of my day here, so I'm going to save it for tomorrow. If you could bump it, it will make it easier for me to find again. Thank you!
archies
April 6th, 2019, 01:40 AM
Thanks for taking the time to read it...I appreciate it! Is commenting bumping it? lol I just getting familiar with this site. Thanks!
archies
April 8th, 2019, 01:34 AM
Hi, not sure how to bump it but I thought I'd reply and see if that helps. Thank you!!!
atomic sagebrush
April 8th, 2019, 12:50 PM
Yes that's exactly how you bump, thanks!
Re the Vit. C - it's not very reliable but yes people do use it that way. As long as you're taking 500 or less it's ok, but 1000 or more is best shied away from when TTC.
Which version of the Mega Men??
Let's have you do the fish oil every other day. I've had concerns too high a dose of fish oil may be lowering cholesterol and in turn sperm count. I halved the dose a couple years ago and our results improved.
I am not a fan of ginseng. I know they recommend it on some other sites but it inhibits cell division - which is why it may be beneficial for preventing cancer, but it may cause harm when you're hopefully trying to boost sperm health and count.
There's no such thing as TMI here - trust me I've heard it all by now. :) I would want you to "clean the pipes" every 2-4 days anyway as that is best for making lots of healthy sperm.
Dr. Shettles died 20 years ago and during that time period his theories were totally debunked using modern technology. The people selling books in his name are just people repackaging theories that are 40-50 years old and have been disproven. Both timing and pH have been debunked and you can read those essays here:
https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html
https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html
I don't think positions sway much. As you point out, because doggy is Dr. Shettles reported fave, most blue sway opposites WERE conceived with doggy style! And I got my girl with me on top. My suggestion is missionary with deep release, then have your wife stay laying flat for at least 30 minutes afterwards, spending part of that time on her belly.
Yes more sex may sway blue but I don't want you to BD daily to O. I would advise you guys having sex every 2-4 days all the time, then during the fertile window of O-3 through O Day, have as much sex as you can - particularly on O-2, O-1, O Day (if you'd like to take O-3 off that is fine, it has low chances of conception.)
The problem with daily sex starting before the fertile window has opened, is that it can lower sperm count. So you effectively "waste" the first few large batches on ejaculations that will die before the egg shows up, and by the time the fertile window opens and the sperm can stay alive longer, you're making much smaller batches. So I prefer regular unprotected sex out of the fertile window every 2-4 days or even every other day if you can keep up with it (the exposure to the hormones in your semen may make her more fertile and blue friendly) and then once the fertile window opens, daily BD or even 2x a day on O-1 and O Day if possible. In the fertile window, those sperm have a better chance of staying alive and making it to the egg, and it's believed that more sperm = more boys conceived. So the fertile window shots will just add more and more potential sperm to the mix.
On Ingender they are very down on breastfeeding, (quite frankly this is because Tamara herself had a hard time with it, and sadly she doesn't care to understand how important the breastfeeding relationship is for others.) While I do think breaastfeeding may sway slightly pink, I never recommend anyone ending a nursing relationship for swaying. You can absolutely get a boy while nursing (I did) with an otherwise good blue sway, and it's also possible that you guys would stop nursing before your daughter and wife were ready and you'd get a girl anyway, OR be unable to conceive at all (this has actually happened to a few people - they stopped nursing for a sway and never conceived, and always had regrets about stopping breastfeeding).
It's totally normal for a child to nurse a bit more when ill and for the cycle to be slightly disrupted when that happens. It will normalize quickly and you guys have a nice age gap anyway - the older the child, the less I believe breastfeeding sways anyway because your wife's body will be wanting to return to fertility (it's the gentle suppression of fertility caused by nursing overall that may sway pink.)
Like I mentioned above timing doesn't work, but we do use OPK strips to help determine when we're in the fertile window so we can be sure to have lots of attempts at that point. This is entirely possible to do even with an irregular cycle. Irregular cycles don't mean that swaying won't work, we fortunately have the OPK technology to help us know when to have attempts.
We have couples on here having babies even over 45! Age is not anywhere near as great a factor for fertility and the health of a baby as people would have you believe. You guys are still younglings! I had my 3rd son at 37, my 4th at 39 and my daughter when I was 42. You have no reason at all to stress over age.
A loss with a first pregnancy is quite common - almost as if the body has to "learn" how to get and stay pregnant. Most people then go on to have perfectly normal pregnancies after that. That won't affect anything we're doing here at all negatively.
The reason her period is overdue is because she ovulated late in March. So that longer cycle has moved things a bit - has her period come yet? The period doesn't come on certain days, it comes 14 days or so after ovulation has occurred, so in a month when ovulation has come late, then the period will come late, and even if the cycle returns to 28 days thereafter, it will still mean that the period comes on a new set of days (if that makes any sense!) So the days the period shows up on may be later than they have been in the past, but it's not really delayed, it was ovulation that was delayed and the period just came 14 days after whenever O happened.
Again, thanks so much for your patience and the bump!
atomic sagebrush
April 8th, 2019, 12:50 PM
oh and if you could get back to me with which variety of Mega Men you're taking I'll be better able to advise you. :)
archies
April 9th, 2019, 02:05 AM
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly and again for taking time to reply to me.
I take this GNC Mulit Vit.
https://www.gnc.com/multivitamins-for-men/201412.html?cgid=multivitamins-for-men#landing=1&start=1
I have been taking it a little over a week now but would be happy to change to any Multi if it increased my chances for a blue sway. Would you recommend any other supplements to go with a mulit...such as Zinc and Vitamin E? I do take the Coq10 200 mg daily now for over a week, but I now wonder if that's too much. I will skip every other day on the 1000 mg fish oil and stop taking Ginseng 500 mg like you suggested.
I've read that folate or folic acid can prevent birth defects, Baby and Me 2 has 600 mcg Folate as (L-5-MTHF with broccoli), the Ingender recommended 2000 mcg for a blue sway :think: that's a a lot...it also talked about eating lots of Potassium and Salty foods.
I dont think I will go off that Ingender link anymore but those two things stuck out in my mind.
I've read this article a handful of times...it talked about mothers eating breakfast, preferably breakfast cereals and eating lots of bananas, I wanted to get your thoughts.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/its-a-boy-the-science-of-gender-selection-814626.html
Is there anything to be said about Ions? I've read a lot about the full moon and being around electricity but I don't know how credible that stuff is.
My wife's period just started April 5th just after I sent you my last message. She said her periods usually last about 5 days.
I guess that only leaves my wife and I just the month of April for a test run to use an OPK test since she wants to start making a baby in May.
I can get those test the have the LH surge before actual O. Does that LH Surge give me about a 1 day or 2 day notice before the Ovulation day? Do you recommend a certain brand for testing?
Before we got married we always had protected sex or I would pull out. I never really did release insider her much until we were ready to start making a baby and it took 3 months before each pregnancy...(with only a couple attempts before or just once on the O day). Will that (boy friendly) hormone have enough time within those few weeks if we started BD every 2-4 days before her ovulation? Or does it take months for it make a difference.
Also what about this month before Ovulation, should I NOT release before the O day since we are not wanting to get pregnant this month and start BD every 2-4 days after her next period? (I hope that all made sense).
I will Re-Read those two articles you send on Timing and PH. I actually bought a PH tester that was recommended from that Ingender Link. I don't think I will use it now. My wife does seem to have enough CM...I sometimes worry about her breastfeeding dehydrating her a bit, she used to be dehydrated a lot when she first started breastfeeding. I keep FIJI water at the home now to promote her to stay hydrated.
Thank you again for your help, I promise I wont have to many more questions! I'm sure you've answered many of these questions many times for other people and in other posts and I hope I'm not being to bothersome. You have put my mind a ease a bit, compared to last time when I read Dr Shettles book and stressed over how to do it on my own with no one to talk to about it. I'm glad I found someone to talk to.
Thanks!
atomic sagebrush
April 9th, 2019, 03:18 PM
Thanks.
Sorry I don't like those at all. Do you see the megadoses of various nutrients, and then all those additional herbal components?? We don't know how those things sway or if they're safe (in fact, a lot of research shows that megadose vitamins may even be harmful). I like the One a Day Men's Over 50 - 100% of most things without any extra stuff in them.
I do not recommend more than 100% of Zinc or Vit. E. They may be harmful and possibly hurt your sway at higher intake.
The 200 mg coq10 is actually fine, that's ok to continue.
The reason why InGender (and I) recommend 2000 mcg for blue sways is because many blue swayers are taking things like the awful baking soda drinks and even green tea which is 100% proven to block folic acid absorption even at fairly low intake. I conceived a baby with a mild neural tube defect taking 800 mg and eating a super healthy diet while drinking green tea. So I do tend to recommend more like 1200+ up to 2000 if your wife is drinking green tea, Ural, baking soda, taking any of the herbs (I do recommend green tea, but none of the other things!!)
The potassium and sodium stuff really makes no sense at all. It is fine to get 4000-5000 mg potassium via diet (I don't recommend potassium supplements) but I cannot recommend the massive sodium intake. It's really hard on the body and you will just pee it all out anyway - the levels of sodium in the blood never change! The mineral diets make no biological sense and have been debunked to my satisfaction - it's fine if you want to include some of the suggestions but please don't start eating gobs of salt. (fWIW I got my 4th boy limiting sodium as per IG recommendations and ate tons of it when I got my girl)
Bananas are NOT magic boy friendly foods. That's based on the potassium suggestion, but the thing is bananas don't even have that much potassium in them and they're really low in other good things. I would advise eating some more nutritious fruits and vegetables and having bananas only when you have a hankering for one.
As for breakfast cereal, the best study ever done on maternal preconception diet and gender conceived found it to be the only food ever shown statistically to make more boys than girls. We don't know why this is; it's ~likely~ not the cereal itself, but may be because eating breakfast = more boys OR because the fortification of the cereal is akin to taking multivitamins which we also believe = more boys conceived.
Ions are sheer nonsense and you can read the full case against them here (this is a pretty dense read, sorry) https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/63173-ion-insanity.html
Most people use Clearblue for a digital OPK and Wondfo for a non-digi. There are some of the Clearblues that will give you a 4 day advance warning prior to O, but it's not always reliable (these will advertise themselves as 2 days of high fertility, 2 days of peak). Most OPK strips only give you the 2 days of peak, which gives you a warning of the day before O and O day. You'll get your first "peak" reading anywhere from 8-48 hours in advance of ovulation (more of these on the tail end of the time frame...most people who only get 8 hrs. warning were not testing regularly) and the average time to conception after the first peak is 24-36 hours.
We honestly don't know how long it takes for the exposure to the hormone to kick in. Some is better than none, though!
You should absolutely still be releasing every 2-4 days starting ASAP. You're right that unless you want to be pregnant this month this would need to be either outside of the fertile window OR you'd need to use protection (or of course do it on your own, or do other things. Oral may still act as exposure to your hormones and has been shown by some to boost odds of conception.)
Yes having her stay hydrated is all good. I truly do think the best results come from making the naturally occurring EWCM more fertile rather than trying to make up for it using chemistry. Fine not to test pH, I think it really causes substantially more harm and tells us nothing at all about whose sways work. I got a boy with a very low pH and we have tons of people who have similar pH opposites.
I'm always happy to help you with any questions you have!! You're not bothering me at all - I'd happily answer the same questions a million times (and I probably have, LOL) if it means helping people get the baby they're hoping for. :)
archies
April 15th, 2019, 01:00 AM
Hi, thanks again. I think I just had a few more questions.
My wife drinks a few cups of coffee each day..maybe 2 to 3 cups and sometimes a another if shes in town and feels like one in the afternoon from McDonald's or a coffee shop. I've read its not good to have too much coffee but I didn't know how much is too much.
I drink Coffee on occasion but mostly drink a half of soda give or take of Coke or Mountain Dew each day. Do I need to have more caffeine within the 3 days before O each time we have sex? How much would you suggest and how long before we do the deed. I had a double shot of espresso when we had our 2nd girl...it was enough espresso to make me a bit shaky...but we only had sex twice on the O day.
I'm going to ask my wife if she would like to take green tea. Shes getting 600 mcg of Folate now with her "Baby and Me 2" Multi. And that Multi Vit is the only vitamin she takes right now. But she does eat healthy. If you suggest any other vitamins or supplements for her I can ask her to take them.
If she did start taking for Folic acid or Folate would you recommend this?
https://www.gnc.com/vitamin-b9-folic-acid/163978.html
I am Now taking the "Mens One a Day 50+" multi like you suggested instead of my GNC mulit. And a Coq10 200 mg daily, Fish Oil 1000 every other day, and sometimes Vit C 1000. Would you suggest any others? And would there be anything you would recommend to help with sperm quality, quantity and motility?
I was previously taking Vit E 400 IU, American Ginseng 500 mg and sometimes Zinc 50 mg, but have stopped when you suggested not to take them.
Thank you for the input on the ovulation. I purchased the Ovulation tests you suggested and we will try to see when the LH surge starts and try to get a good idea on when ovulation takes place.
If you have any other suggestions at all that might help, Please feel free to share them with me or share the link to them. Feels like I've been worrying about the things in the in-gender article way to much. I wish I messaged you sooner...
Thanks!
atomic sagebrush
April 15th, 2019, 12:36 PM
I'd try to have her cut down to 1 per day.
You don't need to have more caffeine before the sway. That's never been proven do to anything other than make sperm temporarily hyperactive and that may actually be harmful for blue for all we know. Plus, when you're trying for a few attempts over the course of a few days, being all jittery and unable to sleep for the night is not going to help with that at all.
I like you guys to also take a low dose DHA for pregnancy (no more than 500) and probiotic.
Some people take the coq10 as well but she doesn't have to.
You could add in 500 mg l-arginine and 1000 mg carnitine if you'd like.
One of the best things to add is Vitamin S - SLEEP! Both you and your wife will benefit from getting a good amount of rest.
The weights for her we talked about already, right??
archies
April 16th, 2019, 01:35 AM
Yep we talked about weights, I'm going to try to get her to go to the gym with me this week. She always wants to walk or run on the tread mills but Ill get her to lift.
I checked and my 1000 mg fish oil has DHA 500 mg in it from the looks of it. Here is the link to it...
http://www.naturemade.com/fish-oil-and-omegas/fish-oil-and-omega-3/fish-oil-1000-mg#axOw2yflmyWaBwP0.97
If it does then would I alternate between the fish oil and DHA everyday?
Is this DHA ok to get, it has a few extra things in it...
https://www.amazon.com/Carlson-Mineral-Supplement-Softgels-80-Count/dp/B00425VYWM/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=500+mg+DHA&qid=1555391762&s=gateway&sr=8-5
And my wife would only the the Baby and Me 2 with a 500 mg DHA Everyday right. And only have 1 cup of coffee a day.
atomic sagebrush
April 17th, 2019, 01:42 PM
:agree: if she's willing to lift - even just very light weights - that's great. Keep in mind one of the main reasons women are turned off of weights is because of a) starting too heavy and b) fear of bulking up. So have her use really light weights - even just like 1-3 lbs. It will still benefit the sway without souring her on the weight training.
yes you can take the 1000 mg fish oil every other day and the Carlson every other day. :agree:
Everything else looks great! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:
archies
April 17th, 2019, 11:18 PM
Hi, Thanks for all the great advise...She lifted weights today, I'm going to try and make it our twice a week routine until shes pregnant. She does do yoga once a week too. I heard yoga was good for fertility also so that's a plus. We will both get more sleep, I think she sleeps enough but sometimes I don't always. I will from now on.
Just wanted to go over my supplements with you to make sure I get it right.
Dear Husband:
*Mens one a day 50+
*Fish Oil 1000 mg/(alternate) DHA 500 mg
*Carnitine 1000 mg...(just started today)
*l-arginie 500 mg...Just started today)
*Coq10 200 mg
NO extra Zinc or Vit E right?
Dear Wife:
Baby and Me 2
Did you want her to take DHA 500 mg each day too? Or any other supplement? I'm sure she will if I ask her to.
Oh how about more Folate? If she drinks green tea she would need to take more Folate right? Even if shes doesn't drink green tea should she still take it?
https://www.gnc.com/vitamin-b9-folic-acid/163978.html
Thank you so much! That ingender really made me nervous with all the things to chose from. I felt like I needed to do them all to sway. We are basically going to eat healthy, lift wights, and get good sleep. Also soon after she ovulates this month we will start having intercourse every chance we can, or at least 2 to 3 times a week if possible. Then on 3 days before the O have sex each day if not twice a day, especially on predicted O day. Does that all sound about right to you? Please let me know if I can do anything else.
Oh almost forgot, you mentioned after sex for her to lay on her stomach for 20 to 30 min. I've also heard of her laying face down with her but in the air and knees tucked in. I'm sure I'm splitting hairs, does it matter much.
Thanks!!!
atomic sagebrush
April 18th, 2019, 12:49 PM
Yoga is great too! 2x a week on the weights sounds ideal.
No extra zinc or E, you're getting enough in the One a DAy.
Yes if she's willing to take the DHA 500 mg supp that is a good idea.
Let's also add in a probiotic for both of you. We've had good results with those for blue
I would def. have you guys do the 2000 mcg total folic acid or folate all thru the entire first trimester of pregnancy and then gradually wean off by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then you can drop them. Especially with the tea!
Everything else is looking great - the attempts look ideal, very much how I got boys!
Re the laying down - yeah some of those things they do to help people feel like they're doing something active to boost their chances. I think laying flat is enough (back and tummy) and worry the more shifting around she does, she'll just lose more semen anyway. Let's not overcomplicate matters!
archies
April 23rd, 2019, 02:08 AM
Hi, well my wife and I planned on doing the deed in May and trying to find when she ovulates this month. Once she found out she was ovulating she wanted to try so we did.
I hadn't released in 3 or 4 days and felt very full and healthy down below. She was on top and organised just a little bit before me.
We started using the Wondfo LH surge test last Friday and Saturday, they both had a solid line and a med shade solid line with it...I took it as negative. She took another Sunday night around 11 pm and it was definitely more solid. Monday morning I told her to take the Clearblue advanced 4-day notice and around 11:15 AM Monday morning the Smiley face was solid. I thought It would of been at-least flashing and not solid.
We had sex around 12:30 AM Tuesday morning, about 13 Hours after her Clearblue Solid face test.
She had to pee about 5 min after sex and went to bed.
I didnt plan on my sway starting out like this, but I wonder if she missed the window of ovulation with that Clearblue solid smiley face showing up so soon and us having sex 13 hours later. (And that would be ok, so I could start my sway better the coming month) I thought it would of been flashing and gave us some more time. My phone says she ovulates on Tuesday or today according to the past months.
Since we already had sex, should we do it again today to sway more blue? I didn't want to do it again on the tail end of things and possibly sway pink (if any of that was true).
Our last attempts at making a baby all took 3 months each time...(I think thats why she wanted to start now) Probably because we did it the same way each time having sex 1 or 2 times around or on ovulation. Especially with baby number 2 after reading Dr. Shettles book on having sex right on ovulation day.
I worry a bit about the hormones not being in her like I planned to do, having sex every 2 to 4 days up to 3 days before Ovulation like you mentioned. Is that very important?
Thanks..Dont mean to give to much info but like you said you've heard it all ;)
atomic sagebrush
April 23rd, 2019, 12:44 PM
Oh great! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:
Next time if there is a next time let's have her stay laying down 15 min. before getting up if possible.
Yes those darn Clearblues will do that sometimes, go straight to peak without the flashy.
I absolutely want you guys to have more sex. I'm sorry this came in at 10pm last night so I didn't get to answer in time, I hope you guys had intercourse! More sperm = more boys, we believe.
Having sex after ovulation DOES NOT sway pink. I promise!!!! If the egg is there it's already fertilized, if it shows up later we want to have a fresh batch lying in wait.
We don't know how important it is. We just don't have the data to say. I do want you guys to attempt again if at all possible!
Yep, I've heard it all and then some! Wishing you the best of luck and sending you all my blue dust!
archies
April 23rd, 2019, 01:58 PM
Hi, Thanks I will try to have sex again today. We must be in different time zones, sorry for the late message. I am on central time, you must be on the west coast.
Ill try again but I know shes busy watching the kids all day and doesn't like to do it while the kids are wake. We could do it tonight for sure if its not too late.
The anxieties kicking in...I have been taking all my supplements and my wife has been on her mulit and just started the DHA today since it came in the mail. We worked out last week and know she was sore so that's good and I think shes been eating breakfast each day..Not cereal though just mostly eggs. So hopefully that will help our chances.
atomic sagebrush
April 23rd, 2019, 03:59 PM
Yes I'm in Washington State. No worries about late messages, just that I don't always see them.
There is no too late - either the egg is fertilized, dead, or up for grabs LOL. There is no situation where it would sway pink, it will only help and can't hurt.
I know it's sooo nerve wracking waiting to see if you're pregnant and if your sway has worked!!! FXFXFX just know we totally understand!
archies
May 17th, 2019, 01:35 AM
Hi, its been a few weeks since I've replied on this thread. My wife is not pregnant we only has sex on the night before or on her O day one time. Her period is just about over now. I would like to sway blue and my wife doesn't care for swaying.
You mentioned to have sex every 2 to 4 days to get the sperm inside her and that her swayed blue. I dont know if we want to start this month or wait (we talked about waiting a few more months)
Should we not have unprotected sex just after her period up to her O day?...If we dont want to get pregnant or is it still ok as long as its far away from the O day since the sperm only live 5 days or so. I understand that after ovulation chances are good that she wont get pregnant and is a good opportunity to release inside her.
I'm afraid (just like last time) shes going to ovulate or about to and want to get pregnant when we haven't has sex for a few week. That would only allow us a few attempts before her ovulation.
Is having more sperm released in her really sway blue all that much or is it a statistic that it sways blue?
By the way she is taking Mommy and Me 2 with DHA that you suggested everyday. We have only lifted weights a couple times in the past month. I'm trying to get her to go more. The only folic acid she gets is from her multis and from food. Do you suggest she take more to sway blue?
I used to have testicular torsion for past year, but after you suggested taking the supplements each day it has went away almost completely if not totally and my sperm count is up and everything feels much fuller down there. I was not expecting that at all, you should be a Doctor.
atomic sagebrush
May 17th, 2019, 03:53 PM
Timing doesn't sway. It's been totally debunked, as much as it is possible for something to BE debunked. Other evidence seems to indicate that regular exposure to the hormones in male semen may help more boys to be conceived. So while it is totally up to you, if you wish to do timing that's fine, and in that case you'd just not have the early unprotected attempts. You'd either release on your own every 2-4 days or use a non-spermicide form of protection.
We don't know how much it sways. It hasn't been studied enough and for now is just an interesting supposition.
If she is drinking green tea, I do like people to take more - up to 2000 mcg.
Oh that's great news! I hope it goes away totally!! Thanks for letting me know that, your experiences are the reason why I know as much as I do. I've added this to my notes and really apreciate it.
archies
June 8th, 2019, 01:20 AM
Hi, its been a few weeks since I we chatted about our boy sway.
I have a few questions regarding ovulation, I have some data that contradicts each other just a little bit and wanted to run it by you.
We tried with 2 attempts around ovulation. According to my phone app, my wife ovulated on May 28th. We had sex on the 26th (in the evening) and 27th (Late Afternoon) thinking one of those were the ovulation dates and my phone changed it to the 28th at the last minute when I updated a few details about her past period.
On May the 24th she said we felt wet...On the 26th her CM was kinda stringy but not much at all...Maybe the length of a small pea. On the 27th her CM didn't seem to be stringy at all really. She was had enough CM for sure but not the kind I was expecting. This made me think her Ovulation had just passed.
She also tested Poitive for LH strip test on May 27th at 11:50 AM and on the same day a Clearblue Solid smiley face on at 1:30 PM.
Also I noticed a pattern these last 2 months, on day 19 (day 1 being first day of period) she has cramps. According to my period app thats just one day before her predicted ovulation. (Her Cycle is an average of 33 days) That could be the actual ovulation happening right? Could also just be a coincidence? Sometimes she has random cramps since her appendix was removed 2 years ago and is more aware cramps since then.
We have been very busy in May and didnt seem to find the time to have more intercourse. Seems that soon as ovulation day is close she wants to try weather shes tired or not.
Since my wife is a Doula she had to leave on the 27th around 9PM for a longer than expected 24 Hour birth. We planned on doing it again on the 28th but had no time at all. She was up for 30 some hours and went to bed around 10 pm on the 29th.
May 28 was the predicted day of ovulation... my question is...Is there any risk of not getting pregnant because she stayed up so late and was super tired the day of predicted Ovulation? I know its good to get plenty of sleep and we always do...but it was bad timing when she got called in when we wanted to make another attempt.
My wife has been very tired the past week and was last month too around this time...Could that be her period starting or pregnancy? Both had similar side effects when I researched them. I couldn't get a clear answer from online.
Also the purpose for Green Tea to increase CM. She has not been drinking it but seem to have no trouble creating CM.
Thanks for all your help!
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