Short sways

[Prayingforagirl67]

Is there any stats on short sways? A friend of mine gender swayed for a baby girl for only 5 weeks. She said she had no cheats and she did end up having a girl. Could it have just been luck or do short strict sways work? She only had one boy before TTC a Girl and she swayed for her son too!

[4blue2pink]

i wouldnt chance it personally, the results for 12+ weeks for pink are too strong to ignore and if you are going to put the effort in to sway why risk it? as far as im aware the stats for short pink sways are not good.
everyone has a shot at either gender sway or no sway :) being totally honest i did conceive 2 girls before i knew anything about swaying and that was with a boy friendly lifestyle that got me 4 boys!! so even with no sway i still conceived 2 girls and ive conceived 1 girl and 1 boy from 12+ week girl sways, nothing is guaranteed. but id always sway and stick at it for the most successful amount of time which is 12 weeks for pink.

[Prayingforagirl67]

i wouldnt chance it personally, the results for 12+ weeks for pink are too strong to ignore and if you are going to put the effort in to sway why risk it? as far as im aware the stats for short pink sways are not good.
everyone has a shot at either gender sway or no sway :) being totally honest i did conceive 2 girls before i knew anything about swaying and that was with a boy friendly lifestyle that got me 4 boys!! so even with no sway i still conceived 2 girls and ive conceived 1 girl and 1 boy from 12+ week girl sways, nothing is guaranteed. but id always sway and stick at it for the most successful amount of time which is 12 weeks for pink.

I definitely agree, I’m already past 5 weeks but not quite at 12, and am getting anxious to start trying, I’m so impatient haha. She didn’t do this method of swaying either. She did the whole low sodium and low calories but didn’t track protein or fat.
I feel like since I do only have one boy that I don’t know if my body is more “boy friendly” or if me having a son was just because my life style was overly boy friendly. If that makes any sense at all. I sometimes wonder if I just ate “normally” if I’d be more girl friendly when conceiving. It makes sense in my head but probably not when I say it lol

Regardless I am already committed to the 12 weeks for sure, and totally agree about not wanting to risk anything on a shorter sway!

[4blue2pink]

I definitely agree, I’m already past 5 weeks but not quite at 12, and am getting anxious to start trying, I’m so impatient haha. She didn’t do this method of swaying either. She did the whole low sodium and low calories but didn’t track protein or fat.
I feel like since I do only have one boy that I don’t know if my body is more “boy friendly” or if me having a son was just because my life style was overly boy friendly. If that makes any sense at all. I sometimes wonder if I just ate “normally” if I’d be more girl friendly when conceiving. It makes sense in my head but probably not when I say it lol

Regardless I am already committed to the 12 weeks for sure, and totally agree about not wanting to risk anything on a shorter sway!

makes perfect sense dont worry :) when you only have 1 child there is no way to know if you are truly set for that gender or if your pretty 50/50 or even if they were actually a fluke and you will go on to have all of the opposite gender, ive seen a few large families like that!! 1 boy followed by all girls and 1 girl followed by all boys.
your friend may well have got a girl with no sway and you may well too but like you say why risk it when there is an option to up the odds in your favour :)
Good Luck and pink dust!! xx

[atomic sagebrush]

1-4 weeks 58%
5-8 weeks 62%
9-12 weeks 67%

12 weeks plus - same as the overall success rate of the site about 70% give or take a few percentage points in either direction (these fluctuate over time and I don't think there is any tangible difference between 12 weeks and more than that.)

[Prayingforagirl67]

makes perfect sense dont worry :) when you only have 1 child there is no way to know if you are truly set for that gender or if your pretty 50/50 or even if they were actually a fluke and you will go on to have all of the opposite gender, ive seen a few large families like that!! 1 boy followed by all girls and 1 girl followed by all boys.
your friend may well have got a girl with no sway and you may well too but like you say why risk it when there is an option to up the odds in your favour :)
Good Luck and pink dust!! xx

That’s exactly what I mean! My grandmother ate the same and had the same lifestyle through all her child bearing years and had 3 girls and 3 boys. I have no clue what my body is set up like because the way I ate before conceiving my son...was embarrassing to say the least sooo high in everything! If this sway works which I hope it does, my husband finally said if we are able to financially we will go on to have at least 1 more. I’d love to see what I’d have on a “regular “ diet, as long as I don’t need to sway again!

Thank you so much!:)

[Prayingforagirl67]

1-4 weeks 58%
5-8 weeks 62%
9-12 weeks 67%

12 weeks plus - same as the overall success rate of the site about 70% give or take a few percentage points in either direction (these fluctuate over time and I don't think there is any tangible difference between 12 weeks and more than that.)


Oh wow! That’s so helpful! Is that including cheats for the loner time frames? As of right now I’m just over 10 weeks but that’s with quite a few cheat days. Probably subtracting 2weeks all together for my sway this far!

I’m getting antsy and really want to start next month if our insurance goes through by then! That’ll put me at about 13 weeks but with like 16 ish cheats (I know it’s bad, my diet has changed drastically but I’m still not proud of the amount of cheats I’ve had ) plus the times I inadvertently went over

I’m so wishy washy with if I should just wait until June being that I have had so many cheats. I don’t want to undermine my sway.

Thank you for the stats :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh wow! That’s so helpful! Is that including cheats for the loner time frames? As of right now I’m just over 10 weeks but that’s with quite a few cheat days. Probably subtracting 2weeks all together for my sway this far!

I’m getting antsy and really want to start next month if our insurance goes through by then! That’ll put me at about 13 weeks but with like 16 ish cheats (I know it’s bad, my diet has changed drastically but I’m still not proud of the amount of cheats I’ve had ) plus the times I inadvertently went over

I’m so wishy washy with if I should just wait until June being that I have had so many cheats. I don’t want to undermine my sway.

Thank you for the stats :)

...and I should have mentioned this in my earlier reply but that has been the overwhelming trend for as long as we kept the stats - 1-4 weeks def. worse, with a gradual improvement till things hit 12 weeks and then they stay high after that.

Please don't count the number of times you cheated. Cheating is not only allowed but encouraged as needed on LE Diet and focusing on details like the number of times you cheated only feeds into that "control freakishness"

Yes the people on diet longer nearly all cheated more. That's another interesting observation to point out - the people on diet a short time were often very very strict, never cheated, and STILL have substantially lower results. And the people who were on diet, most of them cheated from time to time. In fact, the people who were the strictest of the strict also tended to end up with a lot of opposites - I assume because they were so control freakish. Cheating is ok I promise.

[Prayingforagirl67]

...and I should have mentioned this in my earlier reply but that has been the overwhelming trend for as long as we kept the stats - 1-4 weeks def. worse, with a gradual improvement till things hit 12 weeks and then they stay high after that.

Please don't count the number of times you cheated. Cheating is not only allowed but encouraged as needed on LE Diet and focusing on details like the number of times you cheated only feeds into that "control freakishness"

Yes the people on diet longer nearly all cheated more. That's another interesting observation to point out - the people on diet a short time were often very very strict, never cheated, and STILL have substantially lower results. And the people who were on diet, most of them cheated from time to time. In fact, the people who were the strictest of the strict also tended to end up with a lot of opposites - I assume because they were so control freakish. Cheating is ok I promise.


I’ve definitely have been much more lax this Time around, I’m not sure if it’s so much me doing it out of not wanting to be controlish it just from the fact that my OCD has gotten a ton better since the last time I swayed.

I’ll definitely not be counting cheats anymore and keeping track of them.

It’s funny because the last time I swayed thought the cheats were something you couldn’t count in your sway if that makes sense, like in total you need 12 weeks of no cheating and your cheat days you cannot count in your sway.
It’s intere though that the strict people tend to get more opposites, I know quite a few people withType A personalities that have all boys. They also have extremely boy friendly lifestyles while my ex sister in law was totally type A personality with a girl lifestyle and had a girl. I wonder if I’m certain cases lifestyle can override so to speak being control freaky.

I feel good as of now in my sway, overall that is, it hasn’t been perfect in the slightest bit way better then my last.

[atomic sagebrush]

yes we know lifestyle can be > than control freakishness because we have some women with all girls who are control freaks but still have girls. This is in particular the women who are very extreme into diet and exercise.

The cheating is separate from the 12 weeks. Do diet for 12 weeks, and the cheating as needed is taken into account in that 12 week time. You don't need to "uncount" the days you've cheated.

[Prayingforagirl67]

yes we know lifestyle can be > than control freakishness because we have some women with all girls who are control freaks but still have girls. This is in particular the women who are very extreme into diet and exercise.

The cheating is separate from the 12 weeks. Do diet for 12 weeks, and the cheating as needed is taken into account in that 12 week time. You don't need to "uncount" the days you've cheated.


Definitely understandable when I had my son I was sooo easy going, but my lifestyle was all boy.
Now I’d say I’m about 15% control freakish with a 85% girl lifestyle lol

I also just saw something this morning on FB about intermittent fasting: which I think I’ve been doing wrong or partly wrong, I won’t eat anything until around 11/12 which is 18-19 hour time frame of no eating but I do have coffee with unsweetened soy as soon as I get up. The soy milk has calories in it so would that mean I technically broke my fast by having calories? There’s no added sugar or anything like that. What I saw online was that you shouldn’t have any calories until around noon. Is that what I should have been doing all along?

[atomic sagebrush]

We aren't "intermittent fasting" per se, they're doing that for other reasons.

I don't want anyone going longer than 16 hours not eating. 12-16 hours. No more than that.

You do not need to "eat at noon". There is no set time when to eat. I want you guys to do what works FOR YOU personally and that may vary by the day. We have no evidence that we need to eat at a certain hour and the more arbitrary rules I put onto you guys, the harder it is to stick to and the more "control freak" you need to be to maintain it.

Milk or cream in coffee is allowed in the morning. Just not sugar.

[Prayingforagirl67]

We aren't "intermittent fasting" per se, they're doing that for other reasons.

I don't want anyone going longer than 16 hours not eating. 12-16 hours. No more than that.

You do not need to "eat at noon". There is no set time when to eat. I want you guys to do what works FOR YOU personally and that may vary by the day. We have no evidence that we need to eat at a certain hour and the more arbitrary rules I put onto you guys, the harder it is to stick to and the more "control freak" you need to be to maintain it.

Milk or cream in coffee is allowed in the morning. Just not sugar.


I do have days where I just don’t get the chance to eat until 11/12 other days I just don’t. I’ve never been huge into breakfast, although my family all tells me I need to eat it.

I wasn’t sure if the fasting I was thinking of was done for a particular reason. But with that being said I don’t hold off until noon because I feel like I have to if that makes sense. I figured sense I don’t eat breakfast anyway I was adding to my sway, I feel like I’m talking in circles hahaha

I think I sometimes get what I’m trying to do for weight loss and what I’m trying to do for swaying purposes tangled up together.

[atomic sagebrush]

The only thing I want you to take away from this is that we're wanting to have a healthy pregnancy at the end of this. So don't just cut back as far as you can and starve yourself (this is the number one thing people do wrong when swaying!) It sounds to me like you're doing things right, I just didn't want you to think you had to do the advice for people who are doing IF for weight loss as strictly as they do, because we don't.

[Prayingforagirl67]

The only thing I want you to take away from this is that we're wanting to have a healthy pregnancy at the end of this. So don't just cut back as far as you can and starve yourself (this is the number one thing people do wrong when swaying!) It sounds to me like you're doing things right, I just didn't want you to think you had to do the advice for people who are doing IF for weight loss as strictly as they do, because we don't.

Totally understandable! I definitely don’t feel hungry or starved at the end of the day, I’m not tracking as much but I feel like I’m definitely eating enough. Maybe a tiny bit under on calories but nothing crazy.

I know this is off topic but I drink ALOT of coffee, I was re reading the PCOS version of the diet, should I be cutting back on coffee? I don’t drink decaf it’s always regular with either almond or soy milk.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd keep it to 3 cups a day of caffeinated coffee just since you're gonna want to be pregnant at the end of this.

[Prayingforagirl67]

yes we know lifestyle can be > than control freakishness because we have some women with all girls who are control freaks but still have girls. This is in particular the women who are very extreme into diet and exercise.

The cheating is separate from the 12 weeks. Do diet for 12 weeks, and the cheating as needed is taken into account in that 12 week time. You don't need to "uncount" the days you've cheated.

Atomic, sorry for the endless questions but I just realized that I have been taking less of the myo then you recommended. I’ve been taking 1,000 mg daily and then 2,000 just in my fertile period. When I should have been taking 2,000 mg daily and then 1,000 in LP. Will this undermine my sway at all?

[atomic sagebrush]

No that's fine, keep doing what you're doing. I'd have you at 1000 in FP (that's not fertile period, that's follicular phase, AF- O) and then 500 or every other day in the luteal phase.