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[Jazmin]

Hey Jamama , Thank you so much [emoji4]

Mostly same usual symptoms that I get between ovulation and AF.

I have cramps, breast pain nothing new except that cramp seems more noticeable this time, maybe because I am looking for it. lol. Also saw just a bit of brown discharge on Saturday but only once, so I am not going to hope or count on that. I think I am really scared to get my hopes high.

Trying to keep calm and not test too early even though I am so tempted to [emoji23] really hard to keep the early tests away and this few days feels like the longest ever. I am 7 or 8 dpo today. i will wait until 12 dpo to test Fx.

How are you? where are you at?


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[Jazmin]

Hi,

I tested today at 11DPO and it is BFN. Probably out this month.

I had really bad cramping and soreness this month .. have no idea why.. had a little hope but at the same time we both were sick while we tried so i was little worried about the sway. maybe for the best!

hopefully next month [emoji1696]


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[9jamama01]

Hello Jazmin,

When is your period due?

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[Jazmin]

Sunday as per the calendar. I usually have a 28 days cycle.
mixed feeling for now. I truly have bad cramping from dpo5/6.. I wonder why. if AF came i will be worried why I had cramp. I still have it on one side while I type.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Your chart was a bit strange, is there any way you might have ovulated later??

Some people, myself included, have noticed cramping around the secondary estrogen surge. You are describing something that sounds fairly strong, though, which makes me think that it was either O or...

Another possibility is that you have a cyst. This happens and can be quite painful, but usually resolves on its own and doesn't stop u from ovulating in the future.

What many people are afraid of, but that this probably ISN'T, is a chemical. That cramping you're describing would be too early to be related to a chemical, and it's unusual to notice cramps even 7-9 DPO, because it usually takes a little time before your body kicks the "I'm pregnant" vibes into high gear!

[Jazmin]

Your chart was a bit strange, is there any way you might have ovulated later??

Some people, myself included, have noticed cramping around the secondary estrogen surge. You are describing something that sounds fairly strong, though, which makes me think that it was either O or...

Another possibility is that you have a cyst. This happens and can be quite painful, but usually resolves on its own and doesn't stop u from ovulating in the future.

What many people are afraid of, but that this probably ISN'T, is a chemical. That cramping you're describing would be too early to be related to a chemical, and it's unusual to notice cramps even 7-9 DPO, because it usually takes a little time before your body kicks the "I'm pregnant" vibes into high gear!

my temperature stayed higher after that.. which is why I thought ovulation was over, so I didn’t take tests after that.

When it went high on cd16.. then it stayed high little by little until cd 22 (dpo 6) if i ovulated on cd16. a small dip on dpo 6 then up again and i had .05 dip today morning so I was thinking maybe period is close.

you are right my ovulation was confusing this month. [emoji29]

Yes the cramp is strong enough to distract me at times and at times I just wanted to lay. I have a feeling that it could be cyst from the way i get this pain. i felt burning and inflamed on the sides at times and makes me feel like i have some wounds inside .. not that I have but that’s the sort of feeling i get at times. inflammation kinda feel and then cramps in the middle like am about to start period and goes away. it is not just on the side or middle. it was either side, otherwise middle. mostly on the left. my ovulation pain was on the right this month

when AF arrive, i will try and get some test maybe with the doc.

if I have cyst, why is it painful? does it mean it is going away? how can we check if I have it?

thank you so much for reply
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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok, so if it was all over the place it's less likely that it was a cyst. Usually cysts are in ONE place. They hurt because they get bigger than what your ovary "likes" and can even rupture (which is very very painful) You can't tell if a cyst is going away if it's painful, it doesn't mean anything other than that it is present.

But since you're having pains all over the place I'm assuming either your ovulation was delayed or you are pregnant and it hasn't registered on the test yet.

[9jamama01]

Hang in there Jazmin. Wishing you all the best this month. [emoji846]

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[Jazmin]

Ok, so if it was all over the place it's less likely that it was a cyst. Usually cysts are in ONE place. They hurt because they get bigger than what your ovary "likes" and can even rupture (which is very very painful) You can't tell if a cyst is going away if it's painful, it doesn't mean anything other than that it is present.

But since you're having pains all over the place I'm assuming either your ovulation was delayed or you are pregnant and it hasn't registered on the test yet.

thank you atomic. if ovulation was delayed I hope it ends up with AF as we didn’t have a good attempt. DH released as I had cramps, I didn’t want to bd.. maybe did once or twice during the 2ww.

will wait for AF day to test again.


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[Jazmin]

Hang in there Jazmin. Wishing you all the best this month. [emoji846]

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thank you. have you started 2ww ?


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[9jamama01]

Really I don't know, I usually ovulate on cd12 but this month the ovulation pain I had on cd 12 was very mild compared to previous months. But the pain returned strongly yesterday cd14. So I may have had a late ovulation. So I probably started 2WW today.

Anyways we dtd cd 8, 9, 11, 12, 14. I wish we had BD cd 13, but I was exhausted after work. But I've been trying for so long now, that I don't feel anxious anymore, I just take each month as it comes.

Good luck this month Jazmin.

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[Jazmin]

Really I don't know, I usually ovulate on cd12 but this month the ovulation pain I had on cd 12 was very mild compared to previous months. But the pain returned strongly yesterday cd14. So I may have had a late ovulation. So I probably started 2WW today.

Anyways we dtd cd 8, 9, 11, 12, 14. I wish we had BD cd 13, but I was exhausted after work. But I've been trying for so long now, that I don't feel anxious anymore, I just take each month as it comes.

Good luck this month Jazmin.

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[emoji1696] for BFP. yes BD in a row is tiring and I feel exhausted as well.

I have started to prepare for next cycle. my temperature just dropped today so I think AF is about to come. it will be here today or tomorrow as per normal cycle. I was also little bit sick at the starting of this cycle so lets see if that’s delayed it.


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[Jazmin]

Update - AF arrived .. so am out [emoji53]
will contact doctor on Monday and see what they say about my bad cramps this cycle and if I should worry.

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[9jamama01]

It's a new beginning Jazmin, another chance to try again and even sway better than you did last month.

Better luck next month.

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[Jazmin]

It's a new beginning Jazmin, another chance to try again and even sway better than you did last month.

Better luck next month.

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yeah trying to stay positive. hoping I can sway better snd have a good attempt for next cycle. thanks so much [emoji4]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Let me know how I can help!

[Jazmin]

thank you Atomic.


This month my cycle was 27, guessing my ovulation will be around cd 14/15.

i usually done with AF by cd7. so far DH did cd2 ,cd4 (release only) , planning cd6 Release then get into attempt from there onwards.

how can I plan this month’s attempt? if ov guessed for cd 14/15 ? i will be taking temp and ovulation tests too. hoping this will be my cycle.




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[atomic sagebrush]

I would aim at having attempts CD 12-16 if possible. IF that isn't possible, skip the CD 16 one.

[Jazmin]

alright. thank you. [emoji4] will try for cd16 too .


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[9jamama01]

Hello Jazmin,

How are you ? Have you started having attempts? Good luck this month


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[Jazmin]

hey.. thanks. how r u?? yes.. we started this cycle already and today is cd14. I haven’t seen positive ovulation yet but guessing maybe tomorrow or day after. hows yours going?


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[9jamama01]

That's great!

Today is cd28 for me and I'm waiting for AF to show up. I've been super stressed at work so I won't be surprised if it's delayed. Wishing you all the best.

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[Jazmin]

Thank you.

I am wishing and praying for you too. how many DPO are you? have you tested yet or just going to wait for delayed AF?


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[9jamama01]

I haven't tested yet

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[Jazmin]

[emoji1696][emoji1696] for you [emoji170]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck ladies!!! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

[Jazmin]

thank you atomic [emoji4][emoji4]


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[Jazmin]

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Hi Atomic.

my ovulation strips and chart so far. Do you think my ovulation is today or tomorrow? i see the temp spiked today.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Hmm, I would need more temps to say for sure. One temp in isolation doesn't mean anything. I suspect that the tests on CD 14 are the actual surge and late CD 14 or early CD 15 is when O happened, but without a few more temps I can't say for sure.

[Jazmin]

tempt dropped today cd16 to 36.33.. (cd15 was 36.44) so little confused. i will keep testing ovulation and temp and continue with BD. should I skip tomorrow (CD17) and bd on cd18 or bd one more day tomorrow to cover and see how temp and ovulation doing.

I had ovulation like cramp from right side on CD 14 night .. it was for like 2 hours noticeable but not bad. then it switched to left side for little bit and gone.
yesterday night almost like 24 hours after i had really bad cramp again on right , middle side and to the back and it was really uncomfortable pain for about 30 minutes and faded maybe after an hour.


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[atomic sagebrush]

The high temp was just a fluke. I would keep BD daily till you're certain, it doesn't hurt and may help.

O pains are not terribly useful unfortunately, because you can have them before, during, and after O. Usually once they're gone for good, it means O did happen at some point, just that we can't know exactly when, and even if they're still there, it doesn't mean that you haven't Oed yet! So confusing, I know!

[Jazmin]

The high temp was just a fluke. I would keep BD daily till you're certain, it doesn't hurt and may help.

O pains are not terribly useful unfortunately, because you can have them before, during, and after O. Usually once they're gone for good, it means O did happen at some point, just that we can't know exactly when, and even if they're still there, it doesn't mean that you haven't Oed yet! So confusing, I know!

Thank you Atomic.

here is my updated temp. So it pointing to cd14. so does it mean cd14 is my peak or my ovulation happened on cd14.. always wonder what exactly the red line pointing onto.

I am not sure if i can BD today.. have a sign of UTI ( probably bcoz of too many BDs) and feeling a bit [emoji21]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok then just stop BD and treat the UTI, we don't want it to get any worse.

The red line is most likely O day but it can go either way.

[Jazmin]

Ok then just stop BD and treat the UTI, we don't want it to get any worse.

The red line is most likely O day but it can go either way.

thanks for replying atomic. waiting game has started [emoji1696]


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[Jazmin]

no much symptoms this cycle. no much breast pain or abdominal cramps (here and there mild like for AF) . no discharges (mostly dry) .. already prepared for AF. [emoji21]8dpo today


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[atomic sagebrush]

It's completely to be expected that pregnancy symptoms don't start till 10-12 DPO and in many cases till after a missed period!

[Jazmin]

It's completely to be expected that pregnancy symptoms don't start till 10-12 DPO and in many cases till after a missed period!

thanks atomic .. i was feeling really down yesterday. will test tomorrow and see , though its little early


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[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck!

[Jazmin]

tested today. negative. i think I am out.. i can feel period is around here.. in 3/4 days.

fasting month is approaching. when i started swaying i was 66kg.. and now i am 69.. when i had my dd2.. i was 61/62kg and less than that for dd1. should i cut down my weight more .. maybe the weight gain is a problem?

my period is regular.. on time. I had my DDs the first month.. dont know what is happening.

I have requested for blood test and waiting. [emoji21] maybe i will just sleep all day today and get over it. [emoji2]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry if you already told me this, but have you had your husband in for a sperm analysis?? Many times when people just were inexplicably not conceiving it ended up being that the husband was having some issues in that department.

I would hold steady on weight if you can, and if a small amount comes off it's not a big deal.

[Jazmin]

No, we haven’t had a sperm analysis. I will mention it to doc when called for blood results and see what he says. will try and get that done after speaking to DH. thank you atomic


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[Jazmin]

dpo12 and its negative.. so while I wait for my AF i was wondering if I could squeeze in another cycle before fasting month starts.

my ovulation could be just 2/3 days before.. if my temp go up, will it affect if I start fasting while the conception? or should just skip the cycle that’s too close to fasting and then restart later? i was wondering.. if mattered after Bds and ovulation ?

thank you atomic


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[atomic sagebrush]

I would definitely try to be in with an attempt this month. At the beginning of a pregnancy the baby needs so little that were you to start fasting after conception, it wouldn't make any difference as long as you were careful to eat before and after sundown.

I would try to eat both morning and night, a fairly big meal that "sticks to your ribs" a bit more than normal!!!

And then once you get your BFP, if you get it this month, you can cease fasting, correct?? Many of my clients stop fasting once they are pregnant. So you'd be able to start eating again shortly thereafter, before things progressed to a point where the baby needed more nutrients.

[Jazmin]

yes, I can stop fasting if pregnant. fasting is not mandatory if pregnant especially when the hours are longer. doctors don’t recommend it either due to dehydration.

thank you. I will go ahead [emoji4]

one thing i wanted to ask- at gym there is rowing workout machine, is it good for boy sway if i tried it ?


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[Jazmin]

blood test result came back with no action required- i have requested for a print out and will
make an appointment for tomorrow to see what doctor would advise about DH sperm tests.. meantime they have also given me a scan which is in waiting. NHS takes ages with appointments.. i wish to go private but they cost a lot here [emoji21]

i will keep attempting and do checkup parallel as it takes ages here.. hopefully one of the month will mine soon [emoji4] ..


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes absolutely rowing is great for a blue sway!

Oh gosh yes that's what I hear too is that it takes NHS a while to get you in (and it's the same here too in most cases to see specialists)

Yes that's what I'd do, try to get you both checked out at the same time. Hopefully you guys don't have to wait very long, or better yet you guys can just get pregnant and skip the whole thing!

[Jazmin]

Yes absolutely rowing is great for a blue sway!

Oh gosh yes that's what I hear too is that it takes NHS a while to get you in (and it's the same here too in most cases to see specialists)

Yes that's what I'd do, try to get you both checked out at the same time. Hopefully you guys don't have to wait very long, or better yet you guys can just get pregnant and skip the whole thing!

oh great [emoji4].

yes, really do hope we get pregnant and not need to go through treatment route.

I heard that clove drink between AF and ovulation, in empty stomach helps with egg quality..

also heard cumin seed drink also helps. are they going to affect boy sway at all if i give a try?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Please don't use things like clove and cumin seed drinks except in occasional dietary amounts. They don't do anything magical, they may not be safe, they may disrupt your menstrual cycle, and may even harm you or a future pregnancy. Don't do anything herbal or spice based, more than 2x a week.

[Jazmin]

thank you atomic.

what do you think of taking this coq10 product
. my previous one was finished and cant find that one now.

is this ok?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's fine!

[Jazmin]

my blood details came back, saying everything is fine (there is a list ) except that I have vit D deficiency. progesterone level indicates that ovulation also happened.

I saw this kit for sperm checks.. are they reliable?

anyone tried? or best to wait for doc referral?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Ok so let's boost the Vit. D as per your doctors orders. If they didn't give you any orders on upping Vit. D, just double the amount you've been taking until they do. If it was SUPER low, then triple it up to 5000 iu a day, no more than that without doctor's guidance.

The over the counter sperm checks really aren't very reliable. It only tests one element - sheer numbers alone - but there are several things they test for in a sperm analysis. And they're not truly counting the sperm, they're just testing for a protein that sperm have in it. So a man with a lot of dead sperm might still have a high protein number and seem like he had a good sperm count when he didn't. The best use of those tests is to tell when a man is no longer fertile after a vasectomy and not for any male fertility issues.

[Jazmin]

Thank you atomic,

yes, doctor asked to double vitD. so with centrum i am having 10ug and i just bought new folic acid bottle so i got the one with extra 10ug vit D. so it will be 20ug now.

oh okay, I will try to get through Nhs for sperm testing, hopefully I get positive this cycle so dont have to go through all this. [emoji21]

one change this cycle is that, I have upped my coq10 tab.. it used to be 60mg and now 200mg ..


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[atomic sagebrush]

Perfect! YES let's hope and :pray: for positive pregnancy test this cycle and all this will soon be a distant memory!

200 mg coq10 is fine, that may help with egg quality a bit (tho sadly it's not the magic bullet we wish it was)

[Jazmin]

thank you atomic.

I am praying the same , hoping this is my month. especially.. when I have to break everything for fasting month.. its hard to suddenly change then get back.. .. will try my best to stick with supps etc..

i think i got my positive OPK yday.. (CD15).. guessing today could be my ovulation as well.

we did every2-4 days until fertile window.. then Cd14, cd15, cd16 (today) .. then try one more tomorrow then carry on 2-4 days.

wont be attempting next cycle as I have few fasting to take next week( during my 2ww) .. would that ok. i wont be doing it in a row.. planning every other day.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Brilliant, it sounds as if you've had a great attempt this month!!!! FXFXFX and :pray: for blue BFP!

Yes that makes sense to skip the month, several others are doing the same.

In the 2WW I would just try extra hard to be sure you're eating a big meal before dawn and after sunset. It's not ideal, but it can still happen just as long as your body isn't "afraid" that you're starving, and big meals can help with that. I know of one woman who actually set an alarm during Ramadan and had a midnight snack! I don't think that's necessary really but it is something you could do if you were really concerned you hadn't been able to consume enough calories at two meals.

[Jazmin]

Brilliant, it sounds as if you've had a great attempt this month!!!! FXFXFX and :pray: for blue BFP!

Yes that makes sense to skip the month, several others are doing the same.

In the 2WW I would just try extra hard to be sure you're eating a big meal before dawn and after sunset. It's not ideal, but it can still happen just as long as your body isn't "afraid" that you're starving, and big meals can help with that. I know of one woman who actually set an alarm during Ramadan and had a midnight snack! I don't think that's necessary really but it is something you could do if you were really concerned you hadn't been able to consume enough calories at two meals.

thanks a lot. [emoji1696]

yeah.. most people do wake up at midnight and eat something as it is best to do. we also wake up at night and I usually have a bowl of oats. sometimes oats and fruits made into a smoothie or more like a milk shake.. with some nuts. so i will try to have something like that… and ensure I eat well when I can [emoji4]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes absolutely as long as you can sleep after that. When I wake up in the night I'm often up for hours after that!! So it would be a trade off for sure!

[Jazmin]

Yes absolutely as long as you can sleep after that. When I wake up in the night I'm often up for hours after that!! So it would be a trade off for sure!

oh yes.. first 2 days its not easy then our body get used to that routine and I do fall asleep.[emoji1] I would start waking up without alarm lol


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[atomic sagebrush]

Awesome!!! I think we have a solid plan here!

[Jazmin]

Af is here first thing in the morning

moving on to cycle 4. I wont be attempting this cycle.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Keep me posted how it's going and if you need anything!

[Jazmin]

thank you atomic. will it be ok if i loose some weight this cycle while I fast? then start HE diet next cycle ..


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[atomic sagebrush]

We haven't found small amounts of weight gain and loss to be very predictive of whose sways work and whose don't. If it happens, it happens, and then pick it up with diet again after Ramadan!

[Jazmin]

Hi Atomic.

Thank you so much for the help and support here. I cant thank you enough.

My baby boy is here and doing well [emoji4] [emoji170]

I would like to share the info if that is going to be useful for anyone. please let me know if there is a format for it, and if you have a link where I can post it.

Thank you.


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[treens]

Congratulations! Wishing you the best future with your little man! 2.5 weeks for us to meet our little girl~

[LMSM]

Biggest congrats Jazmin! I hope the delivery went well - enjoy your newest bundle of joy :)

[atomic sagebrush]

That is WONDERFUL news! I am so so so very happy for you!

Here is the spot to post your sways! https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway-/