What matters most to diet

[Porcelainmannequin]

Is protein and fat amount super important to swaying pink, or could the regular diet just be cut back in calories (to a still safe amount, just significantly lower than the usual), plus only 2 meals a day, no snacking?

I don't eat much protein already, just a decent bit of fat and carbs.


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[atomic sagebrush]

You need to track protein, fat, and calories to be sure you're getting enough. When people don't count those things, they often end up not getting enough of them and stop ovulation or are unable to get and stay pregnant.

You can have either 2 or 3 meals, whichever works better for you. I find people really struggle with 2 meals and do better on three, there is just a small group of people who feel stuffed on two. Most do 3, just have their first meal a little later on, then have two more meals. Whichever option works better for you.

[Porcelainmannequin]

You need to track protein, fat, and calories to be sure you're getting enough. When people don't count those things, they often end up not getting enough of them and stop ovulation or are unable to get and stay pregnant.

You can have either 2 or 3 meals, whichever works better for you. I find people really struggle with 2 meals and do better on three, there is just a small group of people who feel stuffed on two. Most do 3, just have their first meal a little later on, then have two more meals. Whichever option works better for you.I will, but I mean is going over the fat intake really bad? Or would keeping protein and calories at the appropriate level kinda balance it out possibly?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Going over is better than going under. Do not drop below the minimums under any circumstances.

No, the different groups don't counter each other. Fat, protein, and calories all do different things so you can't cut back on one to make up for going over on others (it's also unhealthy)

Question - are you counting the protein and fat in fruits and vegetables?? If so, don't. Many times when people have trouble keeping in the limits it's because they're counting the minuscule amounts of fat and protein in fruit and veg, and lower carb veg (anthing that is not sweet and starchy) is free for calories too. This gives you a lot more wiggle room.

[Porcelainmannequin]

Going over is better than going under. Do not drop below the minimums under any circumstances.

No, the different groups don't counter each other. Fat, protein, and calories all do different things so you can't cut back on one to make up for going over on others (it's also unhealthy)

Question - are you counting the protein and fat in fruits and vegetables?? If so, don't. Many times when people have trouble keeping in the limits it's because they're counting the minuscule amounts of fat and protein in fruit and veg, and lower carb veg (anthing that is not sweet and starchy) is free for calories too. This gives you a lot more wiggle room.I actually don't eat fruit or veggies. I don't like them mostly. I don't like many foods and the ones I do like aren't ideal, so it's hard to keep to limits.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Tell me the stuff you do like eating. YOu may be doing much better than you think!!

[Porcelainmannequin]

Tell me the stuff you do like eating. YOu may be doing much better than you think!!I have been living off candy and taco bell just about this whole year. I have lost a taste for homemade food as well.
I went through a period of time where I was stress eating and it just ruined my taste. Now if it isn't really sweet, I don't want it.
I know I need to fix this somehow, but I don't know where to start.

I don't like certain textures, like most meat. So that's going for me at least.

My usual day of eating last month went like this:
Wake up for work and eat donuts on the way.
Snack on skittles and cookies at work.
Grab taco bell on the way home.
And drink soda.

The only fruit and veggies I like are bananas, strawberries, potatoes, and broccoli smothered in the vegetable oil spread (the sticks sold by the butter).

I do like oatmeal and stuff like spaghettios. Pasta.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, that's actually not a terrible pink diet (although it is a terrible diet for health LOL)

Drop the Skittles, they have nothing in them but sugar and you're wasting calories that could be "spent" on foods that had some redeeming qualities.

I suspect that if you totaled that up you'd probably be eating more pink friendly than you realize.

If you wanted to change it, I would start by adding in the fruit and veg you like in at one meal a day, even if just on the weekends. So instead of having 2 doughnuts have one and some fresh fruit. Have a baked potato with broccoli and cheese and some cookies instead of as many cookies as you were having, and skip the Skittles.

Do you like yogurt, cheese, eggs, beans (I asume you like cheese and beans since you're having that at Taco Bell!) Those could be good options for you. What about peanut butter??

[Porcelainmannequin]

Well, that's actually not a terrible pink diet (although it is a terrible diet for health LOL)

Drop the Skittles, they have nothing in them but sugar and you're wasting calories that could be "spent" on foods that had some redeeming qualities.

I suspect that if you totaled that up you'd probably be eating more pink friendly than you realize.

If you wanted to change it, I would start by adding in the fruit and veg you like in at one meal a day, even if just on the weekends. So instead of having 2 doughnuts have one and some fresh fruit. Have a baked potato with broccoli and cheese and some cookies instead of as many cookies as you were having, and skip the Skittles.

Do you like yogurt, cheese, eggs, beans (I asume you like cheese and beans since you're having that at Taco Bell!) Those could be good options for you. What about peanut butter??Apologies in advance for having such long replies!

I do like cheese and some beans, but yogurt and eggs not so much. I avoid peanut butter because of the smell, even though I like the taste.
I could do coffee and a fruit for breakfast, a serving of a veggie I like for lunch, and maybe get my fat and protein in my 3rd meal?

I did OMAD in the past way before pregnancy before my tastes changed and always managed to get my calories and stuff in one meal.
I could even go back to the one meal a day if that's not an issue in your opinion.

Just to compare my diet and lifestyle now to the year when I had my boy: I worked longer shifts, so I ate twice a day. It was the same meal every work day.
I ate little caesar's breadsticks on the way to work and on lunch I ate at the McDonald's in store. Lots of fat.
It added up to 2000+ calories a day but I also walked 25 thousand steps minimum on work days and ended up losing 10 pounds (slowly, over 6 months)
I was at my lowest weight when I got pregnant with my son.

Something worth mentioning, I may be swaying pink decently now that I think of it anyway. There has been a drastic change in the last 2 months. I went from emotional binges and snacking all day in stress (on the skittles and cookies at work) to now forgetting to even eat some days this month. I know the not eating at all isn't healthy at all, but it was not intentional.
The difference came from me stopping my birth control.I wanted to stay on it until the month before TTC, but my appetite dropped a lot once I stopped it. Not so much emotional dependence on food.

Another question I thought of this morning...
My coffee creamer is sugar free and I use artificial sweetener, so this doesn't count as a meal from what I gather. However, they both have maltodextrin in them. From when I did keto, I learned maltodextrin was a huge no no because it raised blood sugar more than sugar for most people. So do I count this as a meal now?

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[Porcelainmannequin]

Hope it's not too soon, but bump

[XXforhubby]

Hi! I am a former pinkswayer (1 sway that brought us our DS3 and one successful sway), who was on the site for 4+ years.

Make certain your creamer doesn’t have calories in it. Sometimes artificially sweetened creamers still have calories. Otherwise, it should be fine to use!




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[XXforhubby]

Stay away from OMAD, we want your hormones to stay at optimal levels. Fasting 16-18 hours a day is fine. Diet wise, it looks good. Protein, lean, small servings of chicken is ok. Choose what can work easiest for you to stick to. Veggies are great! Eating lots of those was the biggest difference when I got my DD. Fruit is ok too, just not loads. If you have a sweet tooth, milk chocolate is good. I saw you mentioned skittles. I ate those at times. Make sure you stick in the limits- 1600 cal, 30-50g protein, 40-60g fat. [emoji1694]for you!!


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[4blue2pink]

you sound like me :) im fussy on what i'll eat and a lot of the LE meals suggested by other swayers i dont like, i swear my first 4 boys came from me picking at food throughout the day because i didnt eat meals (i dont like feeling full) i also dont like meat much except sometimes i'll have a bit of chicken.
do you like jacket potato? i found those to be a good option for me, also soup if you like that? do you like pasta? i was having pasta with some pesto and brocolli for my tea often during my sways.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks for the bump, this was long so I set it aside and didn't manage to get back to it till today.

That eating pattern is ok but many people have trouble getting all the protein and fat in one meal. I'd try to sneak in something with pro/fat at each meal so it adds up and you don't have to stuff yourself at dinner (unless you want to LOL)

A LOT of people will stop ovulating on OMAD. (that is one meal a day for those who don't know) I generally prefer at least 2, preferably 3).

I agree you're eating quite pink friendy (as long s you don't have any PCOS tendencie), I just need you to be eating pink friendly AND in a range where we can have you get and stay pregnant! Interesting about your birth control!! I added that to my notes.

I wouldn't count the coffee and creamer as a meal. It is likely a pretty small amount and your blood sugar may go up but then will drop quickly after that. I wouldn't sip on it all day, but in the morning a cup of coffee with that in there is fine.

[Porcelainmannequin]

So, I just added up the numbers for a few days of my eating last month to get an idea.
I reached around 100g of fat, stayed in protein limits, and went over 2000 calories.
This was a fairly common thing.
I did walk enough at work to stay within 3 or so pounds of the same weight thankfully.

I know you can't predict how it will turn out, but in your experience in this, I do want to ask your opinion.
Obviously I need to work on my diet more. I have to cut out snacking for sure. But do you still suggest I do a full 12 weeks LE and no snacking before attempt?

[XXforhubby]

That is ideal- 12+ weeks on the diet with no snacking. Aim for 1600-1800 calories, 40-60g protein, 35-50g fat. Add in veggies. Low calorie ones can make snacks in between meals on days where you are ravenous because they technically don’t count. Think sweet bell peppers, broccoli, snap peas, jicama, cauliflower. I mean, a whole freaking head of cauliflower is 30 calories [emoji854]!! Walking is great!! You got this!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Ideally you would have 12 weeks on diet (that is not a diet I would consider in line with LE really) but obviously you need to take into consideration your needs with your life and schedule. 6 weeks has gotten acceptable results, 8,10 even better.