My attempt please help after 3 sons.

[Clara198237]

Hi, my name is Claire. I have never used this site before (apart from reading the forums). I got in touch with rosaliaslove who recommended this site I am swaying girl to have a precious daughter after 3 sons. I wondered if you could help me please. I have just purchased the girl plan and am waiting to receive it on email.
Currently I am doing this;
Supplements; calcium citrate
Magnesium
Folic acid
Cranberry

Hubby is taking;
Calcium citrate
Magnesium
Olive leaf
Liquorice root
Cranberry

I am not eating tomatoes, potatoes, avocados. Red meat. I’m working on going vegan (will follow diet when I receive my purchased plan). I’m not having breakfast.

I am checking my ph with replens and my ph is 4.5, I am working on lowering my hubbys ph.

Drinking crystal light, caffeine free Diet Coke. Peppermint tea in the morning.

I intend to BD once 2/3 days before ovulation. I think I will get my hubby to release every other day (is this ok?). Also when should he stop releasing ok his own before we have the one BD To try to conceive? (I am very unsure of this).
I’m also planning on using Sumer douche 1 hour before BD, and taking 1 Sudafed to reduce cm. I will test ph before BD And after. Should I jump and dump? (I have never done this). And will use replens to lower ph

I heard also give hubby aspartame’s to reduce his ph.

Sorry for all the questions but I’d appreciate your help. Thank you Claire [emoji3590][emoji1696][emoji3590]


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[tillytys]

Hello Clara, thats great news that you have purchased a plan, we have been having amazing pink results so read through everything before your attempt and ask loads of questions!:)

Calcium and magnesium have been disproved so you will probably be told to drop them, it may be hard to let go of because they have such a following but once you find the articles about it and results its like a lightbulb switching on.

PH and douching has also been completely disproved so be prepared to stop worrying about that too:) Welcome and good luck!

[Clara198237]

Thank you, so what would you say is the most important factor in swaying girl please?


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[tillytys]

I've got to say without sounding like the Atomic fan club:bigsmile: is to follow your personal plan, thats the best thing here there is NO list of commandments to follow:), Atomic looks at your lifestyle, your health, age, weight, and is able to pick the path that will change your body to point you in the way of your gender. It is based on increased condition females conceiving more males and lowering condition females conceiving more females, but you will be shown how to do this in a healthy way. I have been a blue swayer and it worked form me, plus my run of previous pinks fitted it perfectly. Clear everything youve heard about swaying and spend any spare minute reading through past sways, its fascinating:)

[Clara198237]

Ok thank you, I have bought the 99 dollars plan. Maybe I should have bought the personal plan. Oh dear [emoji18]


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[Clara198237]

Hi I’m new to this site Tilly. So where’s the best place to start looking at sways? Thanks


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[tillytys]

https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway-/
This is a good area to look through for pink sways and their outcomes:) I think the $99 is the personal plan, Atomic will be be soon Im sure and will be able to advice better:) But for now have a read through the various girl sections and the previous years results tables its a good place to get the ideas for things and shows how the results have been improving pink year on year.

[Clara198237]

Brilliant thanks, that’s very helpful. Yes I’ve been in touch with atomic so hopefully il hear from her soon.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you, so what would you say is the most important factor in swaying girl please?


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Diet, exercise, number of attempts (having just one attempt) and Clomid or Femara if you can get them.

But I will write your plan to include the sway tactics you would like to use as long as they're safe.

[Clara198237]

Thanks so much atomic


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[atomic sagebrush]

So while I'll put this in your plan, I do want you to make some changes right away.

I do not advise women take cranberry. It doesn't work and has some risks and side effects including possibly contributing to miscarriage.

I leave cal-mag at your option, but the best study ever done on maternal diet and gender conceived (the ONLY one not trying to prove mineral balancing correct) showed more BOYS conceived in women with highest intake of cal-mag. I got my 3rd and 4th boy with cal-mag and stopped taking it when I got my girl. Just be sure you are not taking Vitamin D with it, as Vitamin D has been very blue friendly.

For hubby, we got TERRIBLE results with licorice root. I think we're at 33% (that means that nearly 70% of the people who took it got BOYS even with good pink sways!!) I've all but given it up now.

Hubby should take olive leaf OR cranberry, not both.

We don't ban potatoes and tomatoes on this site but as long as you're getting the minimum of 2500 mg potassium (this is on all sway diets, because you need this much for survival) it's fine to skip them if you'd like.

Peppermint tea is at your option, although we're not using it any more for the most part. It didn't work, and got poor rates of conception for women over 35. Plus, it was very disruptive to the cycle, delaying or even stopping ovulation for many people.

I don't recommend Sudafed as it has a history of strokes in younger women, particularly when taken with blood thinners like cranberry. Your choice, but please don't take more than one.

What I would recommend is having your husband release every day for 7-10 days to start with. Releasing every other day may be more blue friendly (although none of the frequency patterns have worked well) The important thing is having ONE ATTEMPT. If you don't get pregnant with one attempt, then please drop other sway tactics that don't work (like frequency, timing, jellies, and Sudafed) before adding attempts.

You're doing both douche and Replens?? I don't usualy recommend this as it cuts odds of conception to practically none. I would choose one or the other (I don't really recommend either, but prefer jelly as it's less invasive. In our results neither has worked)

Jump and dump only after 5 minutes. You will have very low chance of conception doing all those things, so I recommend dropping them over the course of time, focusing on diet, exercise, one attempt, and Clomid or Femara if you can get them, as those are the things that have worked for us. :)

I will include this stuff in your personalized plan.

[Clara198237]

Brilliant thank you. You’re right I don’t want my chances of conception to be cut totally down. I will stop the douche. I’m the plan it says use replens an applicator worth every 3 days after AF. And then last use 24 hours before my one attempt. So should I not use a pea sized amount before the attempt? As don’t want to lessen my chances of conception thanks


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[Clara198237]

Also my husband is releasing now every other day and I’m on 7 days past ovulation. When before my one attempt should I get him to stop. Like how many days before we BD should he stop releasing. As I don’t understand the 7-10 days thing. Thanks


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[Clara198237]

Fibre on plan: is 500mg chitosan ok to take or should I take it with Metamucil? And which one is better please as I haven’t been taking. Also I haven’t Been taking all the supplements you recommend this month but I have been following the LE diet, is it ok to ttc this month or should I be on the plan for longer? I’m naturally very small framed and have lost a bit of weight already. Ok going to up my cardio, doing exercise evey day, I’m 7 days past ovulation. And going to do one attempt 2/3 days before I get my peak/ovulation. I’m going to be using the flashing smiley face ovulation sticks this months to try to not miss my peak on the lead up and have an idea of my fertile time.


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[Clara198237]

Hi atomic,
Having looked at the plan I’m following this sway;
Can you see if you think it is ok please?
Following LE diet
Exercising cardio 60 mins

My supplements;
High dose folic acid
- dropped calcium & magnesium
-weaning off cranbery that I was on (may pick up aspirin not sure)
(I’m only 44kg so I’m trying to loose as much weight)

Drinking Diet Coke, crystal light
Skipping breakfast

Hubbys
- olive leaf
-calcium
- magnesium

-drinking Diet Coke

Replens 1 applicator 8-12 hours only before the attempt (is this too much?)
One attempt only 2 days before ovulation (tracking and double checking using clear blue ovulation sticks)

FR every other day which is stopping 7-10 days before attempt

Hot bath for hubby before attempt
Lavender diffuser in room


Sudafed one hour before? (Not sure if you advise this and know you said it will reduce chances of conceiving along with replens- so which one is best to drop?) thanks a lot


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[Clara198237]

Sorry just re read and you said to release every day and that you’re not convinced with the Sudafed


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[atomic sagebrush]

Brilliant thank you. You’re right I don’t want my chances of conception to be cut totally down. I will stop the douche. I’m the plan it says use replens an applicator worth every 3 days after AF. And then last use 24 hours before my one attempt. So should I not use a pea sized amount before the attempt? As don’t want to lessen my chances of conception thanks


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You can, if you're dropping the douche, although the jellies do cut odds of conception and they haven't been show to help.

Releasing 7-10 days means that 7-10 days before you expect to have your attempt, have him release every single day for 7-10 days in a row. Then have your attempt. But if you don't think he can stick to that, use the regular release option in your plan. The daily release really hasn't worked anyway.

[atomic sagebrush]

Fibre on plan: is 500mg chitosan ok to take or should I take it with Metamucil? And which one is better please as I haven’t been taking. Also I haven’t Been taking all the supplements you recommend this month but I have been following the LE diet, is it ok to ttc this month or should I be on the plan for longer? I’m naturally very small framed and have lost a bit of weight already. Ok going to up my cardio, doing exercise evey day, I’m 7 days past ovulation. And going to do one attempt 2/3 days before I get my peak/ovulation. I’m going to be using the flashing smiley face ovulation sticks this months to try to not miss my peak on the lead up and have an idea of my fertile time.


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One or the other, not both. Either is fine.(If one was better, I'd tell you to take that kind! But any fiber works)

I'm fine with you guys trying this month! The supplements are by far the least important. You need to up your calories to stop weight loss if you're below BMI 21!!

[Clara198237]

Thank you, I understand it now as I for some stupid reason was reading the bit about it hubby is aged 35 or under, my husband is 37. I was reading it as he had to abstain for 7-10 days before attempt!! (Thank god I asked you again). Now you’ve made me realise that I read it wrong. So il get him to release every day for 7-10 days before our attempt. What does this frequent release help with please atomic?


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[atomic sagebrush]

What is your height?

Did you stop the cal mag suddenly?? I would prefer you wean off. Dropping nutrients suddenly may be unhealthy.

FR is not every other day. To do FR you must have your husband release DAILY for 7-10 days, and then at the end of that time period, have your attempt.

If you're starting cardio now given your low weight please eat a bit more than you have been to prevent weight loss.

I prefer 2 day cutoffs to 3 as 3 day cutoffs have low chance of conception, so I would have you have your attempt the day of the SECOND flashy. Do be aware sometimes you can have many days of flashy, or go right to peak (solid smiley) with no flashies at all, and have a plan in place what you'd like to do in case that happens.

[Clara198237]

Thanks atomic. I am 5foot, so 152cm. Today I weighed 6 stone 13 pounds (43.9 kg). I have a very small build. I was weaning off the magnesium anyway. But cut out the calcium now as can see looking at posts it’s not helping.

I’m taking hogh dose folic acid and weaning off the cranbery.

Yes I am defo going for a 2 day cut off (the day before my peak reading on opk).
Here’s my plan as to avoid getting straight to my peak like last month when I peaked earlier (never happened before, it was 2 days earlier than usual).

I shall continue to use opks each day, when on cycle day 10 I shall be testing opks every 4 hours or more and see if there is a gradual rise in the stick colour as opposed to a clear peak when unexpected (Again If I pick early). I will use the clear blue ovulation kit alongside these, thanks for your tip on using them as I’ve never used them before.

I am a constant snacker, so the LE diet is good for me. Thanks atomic


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[Clara198237]

With my boys having thought about it I ate all through the day and lots of cereal at breakfast and through the day too


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you, I understand it now as I for some stupid reason was reading the bit about it hubby is aged 35 or under, my husband is 37. I was reading it as he had to abstain for 7-10 days before attempt!! (Thank god I asked you again). Now you’ve made me realise that I read it wrong. So il get him to release every day for 7-10 days before our attempt. What does this frequent release help with please atomic?


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It's meant to lower sperm count, but it hasn't really helped our results any. Most people do want to try starting off with either FR or abstain, though. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Agh so sorry I accidentlly hit the dislike button when I meant to hit LIKE!! Sorry!

[Clara198237]

Thanks atomic. So why do we want to lower sperm count with a girl sway? I don’t really understand thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

OH gosh I got so panicked about accidentally hitting the wrong button I forgot to answer your main question.

Your BMI is 19 and so I don't want you to lose any more weight. Do what it takes to keep weight stable (you will likely have to eat somewhat more cals to compensate for the exercise.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic. So why do we want to lower sperm count with a girl sway? I don’t really understand thanks


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Very little is known about how swaying actually works. Very few legitimate scientists are studying it and the handfuls of people who do study it are either selling something or studying animals, not humans. But most swaying research, as scant as it is, seems to indicate fewer sperm meeting the egg = more girls conceived, even though we don't know why. The trick is balancing enough sperm to fertilize the egg with still swaying pink.

[Clara198237]

Thanks atomic. That’s the thing, how do I balance getting enough girl sperm to the egg. I know, it’s complicated


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic. That’s the thing, how do I balance getting enough girl sperm to the egg. I know, it’s complicated


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Here's what we will do - we'll do what has worked for most people, most of the time (and the past 3 years in particular we've had outstanding results, we've really got it dialed in now) and with doing that, we still have average 3 months to conception. We aren't just shooting blindly in the dark, we've got a pretty fair idea of what is working and what isn't so we can quickly drop the things that aren't working (like timing, jellies, frequency, antihistamine/Sudafed, cranberry/aspirin, peppermint tea) and most of our members are getting pregnant within the same time frame as those NOT swaying. :)

[Clara198237]

Thank you, il glad you’re with me [emoji3590][emoji120]


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[Clara198237]

Atomic im just thinking about hubby releasing every day for 7-10 days before we have our first attempt. Is this going to greatly reduce my chances of getting pregnant please, as I was considering genderdreaming selection and they said for hubby to abstain for at least 4 days. Also why are men under 35 abstaining for 7-10 days before while men over 35 have to release for 7-10 days? Thanks, I don’t want to not get pregnant but too I want a girl thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

It absolutely does reduce chances of conception (because we're trying to lower sperm count and hopefully sway pink)

Abstain ALSO reduces chances of conception.

The reason we have men under 35 do abstain and men over 35 do daily release is that men over 35 have a higher chance of sperm abnormalities and abstain increases sperm abnormalities as well. Just a safety thing

The truth is, neither abstain nor FR has worked for us. If you want to leave them out, that's fine, just have your husband do regular release every 2-4 days or so, or even just let him "do what he does". The important thing is having just the one attempt!

[Clara198237]

Ok thanks, now it’s clearer. How many days before our attempt should I ask him to abstain then. Hel do frequent release, (he does it anyway), but what is the ideal number of days for him to stop before our 1 attempt as to not decreases our chances but also to not sway boy (as heard something about sperm regenerating after a certain number of days), so should he stop releasing 2/3/4 days before our attempt. (I’m not going t ask him to abstain for 7 days as he’s 37 and would worry about the abnormalities. Help please


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[Clara198237]

Also, with each man are there more male sperm in each ejacualation? Is it 50/50 boy girl sperm? Or is it different for each man? Is there anyway of increasing my husbands girl sperm? Thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

When you say "hubby does frequent release already" what do you mean by that???

Frequent release is releasing EVERY day for 7-10 days before having one attempt.

I think you are talking about REGULAR release which is releasing every 2-4 days.

There is no "right" amount of days to have him abstain. That's a thing other sites make people do but it's for no reason. It doesn't work and simply adds stress and control-freakishness for no reason.

If you end up doing regular release, just have him "clean the pipes" every 2-4 days and then have the one attempt whatever day it falls on. Don't worry if it's only been 1 day or if it's been 4 days. That makes no difference.

If you end up doing frequent release just have him release 7-10 days in a row, skipping no days, and then do the one attempt when it falls. Don't have him do FR and then 4 days of abstain!!! That makes no sense because you're not getting the benefits of the 7-10 days of release.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also, with each man are there more male sperm in each ejacualation? Is it 50/50 boy girl sperm? Or is it different for each man? Is there anyway of increasing my husbands girl sperm? Thanks


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All men make 50-50 X and Y sperm. They have to, because men are made of XY cells that divide in the testicles to make half X and half Y sperm. XY cells, divided in half, make about 50-50 X and Y sperm. There is no way to alter the ratio of X and Y sperm (if there was, of course I would already be having you guys do that!)

[Clara198237]

Ok so what are the benefits of 7-10 days frequent release and then the 1 attempt as opposed to regular release (this is what he is currently doing) and then just see if he doesn’t release before our attempt (say abstain for a couple of days). Yes I undestand that if there was a way of producing more girl sperm that would be a dream come true.

I’m toying between let him regular release and then stop when he likes up to our attempt or asking him to do frequent release up until our one attempt. I’m just worried that by releasing every day (frequent release) hel have hardly any sperm left??

Also after how many days does sperm regenerate? Thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

There doesn't seem to be any. It's just that many people don't want to leave anything out without trying it.

One attempt with ANY frequency pattern has 69% success rate (and possibly higher as this stat may be a bit misleading, since many people do not do diet and do ONLY one attempt) FR has about 66.5% success rate, abstain has 67% success rate. This means they are not adding anything to the one attempt - they're doing nothing. It's the one attempt that works, not the frequency patterns (and we have 10 years of watching these numbers to prove it, I'm happy to explain more about that if you'd like me to).

I agree with your reasoning - the releasing every day has really cut odds of conception by a whole lot and also, husbands hate it and get very rebellious over time. Since it doesn't add anything anyway, I'm fine with you guys leaving it out.

Sperm starts to regenerate immediately. Men are always making sperm. But the rate at which any individual guy can make a good size batch varies by the person, and I can't really tell anyone how quick their husband will be ready to roll again.

[Clara198237]

Hi atomic so I didn’t get pregnant last month, I think it is because I was using the replens. So I’m thinking of dropping that.
I followed this;
Our attempt was the night before peak, with a flashing smiley face on clearblue.
Hubby took hot bath before.
I took Sudafed an hour before
I drank lots of crystal light
Missionary
No orgasm
Only one attempt.
I used replens before the attempt and after attempt

Please can you suggest where I move forward. I am also still unsure if should get hubby to FR AS I’ve heard this sways girls, my last attempt hubby just “did what he normally does, so released when he chose” thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

I understand people once thought FR swayed pink, but we tracked our results and it didn't seem to do anything at all. It's fine to leave it out if you want.

As for what else to drop, you have a couple choices. You can drop one thing per month (so this upcoming month you'd already dropped the Replens) and keep everything else the same, or you can drop more than one thing (so we'd need to decide what else to drop). It's totally up to you if you want to drop more than one thing.

The things I would drop because they do not work and may cut odds of conception are: the timing (day before pos OPK), hubby's hot bath, Sudafed, and the Replens. For now I would not add attempts, just see if you get pregnant dropping those things. Again, you don't need to drop them all at once, but those are the things I would drop eventually before adding attempts.

I also suggest keeping Crystal Light to 2-3 servings a day. It doesn't work anyway and the FDA has only approved that amount for use when pregnant.

[Clara198237]

I added my reply to this thread as might be better?

Thanks atomic. Sorry I have just seen your reply. Yes, I’m going to drop those things as you’re right they are stopping me getting pregnant. I have only been doing 1 bd each month. Last month I used 1 Sudafed an hour before our attempt and I did use a douche.

Can you tell me why Sudafed stops me from conceiving please as I’ve heard people have used it in their sway.

I am going for just one attempt this month. My husband was doing frequent release (stopping the day before our attempt- so if we had our attempt Friday he would release last on Thursday) he would also have a hot bath before our one attempt.

So do you think he should frequent release or abstain before our one attempt?

With my diet:
Skipping breaksfast

Lunch: white bread and some chicken soft cheese/ jam

Diner: rice or pasta and some chicken. Yogurt. Strawberries or berries

My bmi is around 19, my weight lost has come to a plateau as I’m not a big eater really but I did used to eat lots of breakfast cereals and snack lots during the day. I know that I am ovulating as I’m also using the clearblue ovulation sticks alongside the lh strips. Would you like me to start a new thread atomic? Thanks for helping I appreciate it as this will be our 6 month ttc


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[Clara198237]

Sorry just to add that after our one attempt I lay flat for 5 minutes and then wiped excess semen and then used the bathroom (went for a wee), in thinking that this may be stopping conception too thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh ok I did reply to your other question as well so I'll direct you back there rather than typing it in twice!

You can gradually extend the amount of time you stay laying down after intercourse. But I honestly think it has far more to do with the other stuff you were doing rather than the J and D, so you may want to go more to like 10 minutes rather than staying down all night with your attempt this month.