LE diet

[sarahcopoc]

How long do you have to do the LE diet ttc girl? I did it for 3 days and found it very difficult. I felt like crap.


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[mommymachine]

12 weeks is recommended if possible.


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[sarahcopoc]

Do I have to skip breakfast the whole time?


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[hotlikemexico]

Do I have to skip breakfast the whole time?


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You don’t have to skip breakfast, you can have three meals, even four if necessary. I think the more important thing is the fasting, if you can. I have been eating three meals, just pushing back the first meal as long as possible. The recommended time for fasting is 12-16hrs. Most days I get about 13-14hrs between my last meal of the previous day and the first meal of the next day.

Personally, I find it easier to have three meals, than two! I’m starting off aiming for 1800cals so that I don’t lose too much weight too quickly and stop ovulating. If I were to eat 1800cals in two meals (by skipping breakfast), that would be two 900cal meals a day! I don’t think I could physically eat that much food in one sitting, LOL.

What are you eating? Maybe we can help you out with some suggestions for meal ideas? I only just started the LE diet this past weekend, but I’ve had no problems so far! I’ve even really enjoyed my meals! [emoji4]


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[sarahcopoc]

Mostly lots of carbs and dairy. I can comfortably fast for 13 hours is that enough? I just find the more carbs I eat the more hungry it makes me. That’s the effect carbs have always had on me. Also I’m gluten intolerant so I have to swap breads and pastas for GF versions.i hope that stays on diet. I am sticking under the protein, calories, sodium and potassium.


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[hotlikemexico]

Mostly lots of carbs and dairy. I can comfortably fast for 13 hours is that enough? I just find the more carbs I eat the more hungry it makes me. That’s the effect carbs have always had on me. Also I’m gluten intolerant so I have to swap breads and pastas for GF versions.i hope that stays on diet. I am sticking under the protein, calories, sodium and potassium.


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13 hours is definitely enough! 12-16hr fast is the recommended range. I have been averaging 13hr fast as well.

I wouldn’t worry about tracking sodium — atomic has said they are getting better results than ever without tracking sodium, and I believe she said she got her own girl while eating plenty of sodium. It makes it MUCH harder to follow LE without worrying about sodium. [emoji4] Just total cals, fat, protein, and making sure to get enough potassium.

Unfortunately I don’t know anything about GF foods as I don’t need to eat them, so I have no info or advice on that! [emoji3525]

Are you adding in some fruits and veggies where able? ESP the low carb veggies which are free and unlimited. For example my lunch yesterday was a very filling salad; I didn’t have to count any of the veggies in it, and I added blue cheese dressing (two servings because I was low on fat for the day), half a serving of Parmesan cheese crisps, and a Quorn brand spicy “chicken” patty. (I’m not sure if Quorn is GF or not!)

For breakfast the other day I had a 100 calorie English muffin (they must make GF English muffins, right?) with one serving of garlic & herb goat cheese, topped with sliced tomatoes and some salt, with a side of so delicious brand coconut yogurt alternative with mix ins. Not sure if the ones with mix ins are GF or not, they do make plain without mix ins too. But I’ve found coconut yogurt to be 1. DELICIOUS and 2. a good source of cals and fat while still being low in protein!

The key to be successful on LE is to make good use of your free veggies and even fruit and high carb veggies that only count cals. I know what you mean about feeling like crap with only carbs and dairy. But like my example above of the English muffins with goat cheese and tomatoes... just the fact of eating a whole sliced tomato with it (what didn’t fit on the top, I just ate on the side by itself) really helps to round out the meal so it’s not just a heavy, carb-y meal that would leave you feeling gross.

Hope that helps a little! [emoji4]


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[sarahcopoc]

Omg cutting out the sodium count helps sooooo much! I love a little salt on most things! I need to tweak this my notes and stuff. I purchased the girl sway program but it looks like some of the supplements listed in the program are no longer being recommended. Is there some way to find all of the updates to the program?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Please tell me what you think the LE Diet is.

Many times when people do what they think the LE Diet is, they are starving themselves and not eating the LE Diet at all. It is meant to be easy to stick to, you don't feel terribly deprived on it, and you can function. If you aren't finding that then something has gone wrong and we need to figure out what that is. Don't give up, I can help you get on the right track!

[atomic sagebrush]

Do I have to skip breakfast the whole time?


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Technically, yes, but when people have a hard time giving up breakfast I will just have them push it back an hour or so. Some people keep eating breakfast the whole time! Both 2 and 3 meals are equally acceptable (I always had 3 when I got my daughter). And some people who have hypoglycemia, I even have them go up to 4 meals. It's still going to be very different than the all day munching most of us boy mamas do.

[atomic sagebrush]

Omg cutting out the sodium count helps sooooo much! I love a little salt on most things! I need to tweak this my notes and stuff. I purchased the girl sway program but it looks like some of the supplements listed in the program are no longer being recommended. Is there some way to find all of the updates to the program?


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That's meant to be a generic sway plan including the old school stuff. We can switch you over to a custom sway plan if you want - I'll message someone who can help with that.

[atomic sagebrush]

Mostly lots of carbs and dairy. I can comfortably fast for 13 hours is that enough? I just find the more carbs I eat the more hungry it makes me. That’s the effect carbs have always had on me. Also I’m gluten intolerant so I have to swap breads and pastas for GF versions.i hope that stays on diet. I am sticking under the protein, calories, sodium and potassium.


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13 hours is enough. Anywhere from 12-16 hours.

Are you tracking your protein and fat to be sure you're getting enough?? 40-50 g protein and 30-60 g fat for most people, but you can up that to 50-60 g protein and fat if need be. Plus, you should not be counting the protein and fat in fruit or veg and NOTHING in low carb veg, they're free and unlimited. So if you have been "spending" your calories, pro, and fat on those things, that means you can actually eat more!!

When you say "sticking UNDER the limits" what do you mean by that?? You need to be eating the recommended amount. You shouldn't be eating LESS than the recommended amount. Some people think they have a better sway if they eat less, but the minimums are set to be sure people can continue ovulating and conceive while on the diet. The minimums are actually more important than the maximums!!

[sarahcopoc]

13 hours is enough. Anywhere from 12-16 hours.

Are you tracking your protein and fat to be sure you're getting enough?? 40-50 g protein and 30-60 g fat for most people, but you can up that to 50-60 g protein and fat if need be. Plus, you should not be counting the protein and fat in fruit or veg and NOTHING in low carb veg, they're free and unlimited. So if you have been "spending" your calories, pro, and fat on those things, that means you can actually eat more!!

When you say "sticking UNDER the limits" what do you mean by that?? You need to be eating the recommended amount. You shouldn't be eating LESS than the recommended amount. Some people think they have a better sway if they eat less, but the minimums are set to be sure people can continue ovulating and conceive while on the diet. The minimums are actually more important than the maximums!!

Thanks so much for the answer! I’m quite overweight so whenever I change my diet my body tells me it’s angry. Today, day 4 , I have felt better. I found it challenging to get enough potassium. Also, another member said that tracking sodium is no longer suggested. Is this true? Also, only sups I need are folic acid and fibre and the rest in the plan are no longer recommended?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and gluten free options are fine for most people, we've had good results with GF diets although some of the breads are very carby and can cause blood sugar spikes and crashes.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much for the answer! I’m quite overweight so whenever I change my diet my body tells me it’s angry. Today, day 4 , I have felt better. I found it challenging to get enough potassium. Also, another member said that tracking sodium is no longer suggested. Is this true? Also, only sups I need are folic acid and fibre and the rest in the plan are no longer recommended?


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Yep please just drop the sodium restriction. Virtually all of us have given it up and our results are higher than ever. And it's much easier to stick to the diet without it. I got my girl eating tons of sodium after my 4th boy while limiting it.

If you're very overweight I would put you on an entirely different plan. I have messaged tech support so we can get you switched over to a custom plan. I think you need a more aggressive approach with supplements and very likely a different style of diet totally. One of the diet plans in this thread will be better for you: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

[atomic sagebrush]

^^^ but I would leave out Vitex, SP, pep tea, aspirin, antihistamine probably, and licorice root and pep tea for your husband as well.

[atomic sagebrush]

13 hours is definitely enough! 12-16hr fast is the recommended range. I have been averaging 13hr fast as well.

I wouldn’t worry about tracking sodium — atomic has said they are getting better results than ever without tracking sodium, and I believe she said she got her own girl while eating plenty of sodium. It makes it MUCH harder to follow LE without worrying about sodium. [emoji4] Just total cals, fat, protein, and making sure to get enough potassium.

Unfortunately I don’t know anything about GF foods as I don’t need to eat them, so I have no info or advice on that! [emoji3525]

Are you adding in some fruits and veggies where able? ESP the low carb veggies which are free and unlimited. For example my lunch yesterday was a very filling salad; I didn’t have to count any of the veggies in it, and I added blue cheese dressing (two servings because I was low on fat for the day), half a serving of Parmesan cheese crisps, and a Quorn brand spicy “chicken” patty. (I’m not sure if Quorn is GF or not!)

For breakfast the other day I had a 100 calorie English muffin (they must make GF English muffins, right?) with one serving of garlic & herb goat cheese, topped with sliced tomatoes and some salt, with a side of so delicious brand coconut yogurt alternative with mix ins. Not sure if the ones with mix ins are GF or not, they do make plain without mix ins too. But I’ve found coconut yogurt to be 1. DELICIOUS and 2. a good source of cals and fat while still being low in protein!

The key to be successful on LE is to make good use of your free veggies and even fruit and high carb veggies that only count cals. I know what you mean about feeling like crap with only carbs and dairy. But like my example above of the English muffins with goat cheese and tomatoes... just the fact of eating a whole sliced tomato with it (what didn’t fit on the top, I just ate on the side by itself) really helps to round out the meal so it’s not just a heavy, carb-y meal that would leave you feeling gross.

Hope that helps a little! [emoji4]


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BTW I regret that I have but one Thank You to give for this reply! Stellar!

[sarahcopoc]

Yep please just drop the sodium restriction. Virtually all of us have given it up and our results are higher than ever. And it's much easier to stick to the diet without it. I got my girl eating tons of sodium after my 4th boy while limiting it.

If you're very overweight I would put you on an entirely different plan. I have messaged tech support so we can get you switched over to a custom plan. I think you need a more aggressive approach with supplements and very likely a different style of diet totally. One of the diet plans in this thread will be better for you: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html


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[sarahcopoc]

That is very much appreciated. Thanks. [emoji120] in the meantime should I continue le or wait until I receive new plan?


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[hotlikemexico]

BTW I regret that I have but one Thank You to give for this reply! Stellar!

Just realized I meant to say much EASIER to follow the diet without worrying about sodium, but hopefully that came across anyway. Happy to help and very happy to hear I’m on the right track! [emoji4]


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[atomic sagebrush]

That is very much appreciated. Thanks. [emoji120] in the meantime should I continue le or wait until I receive new plan?


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I would switch to the alternate diet I linked you to above -

Keep cals the same
50-60 g protein and fat
Full fat dairy only, no skim
No sugar
Whole grains only, no white (some people still use white pasta, a few use white rice)

[nuthinbutpink]

I have switched you to a custom plan so you now have access to the questionnaires!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you! So Sarah, just fill those out and I'll get your plan to you as quick as I can.